Can I use a plunger in my RV toilet
codfish
hold the valve open (using the lever) and use an ordinary plunger on it?
How do I tell my wife how much toilet paper to use?
Is there some guide line on how much to use. My wife uses it like crazy
and plugs the pipe.
Stephen Sauls
the right toilet paper. If not things will get worse.
I would suggest politely that she might want to adjust the toilet paper
usage. Other wise things will eventually get out of hand.
--
Stephen E. Sauls
1998 Shasta Travelmaster Class C
web page - http://www.mindspring.com/~sesauls/
Chamblee, Georgia\
codfish <cod...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Bill
2" of water in the bowl before using it, If she doesn't the
paper will stick to the bowl and be difficult to flush.
Been there done that. Good Luck
Buzz Cut
BTW fellow readers, I checked and this message wasn't posted on the first of
this month, but maybe it should have been.
If this is for real.....
codfish <cod...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> If my Rv toilet is plugged with toilet paper and is full of water can I
> hold the valve open (using the lever) and use an ordinary plunger on it?
You shouldn't have to use a plunger but it shouldn't hurt the bowl other
than possibly leaving marks. Don't push on the slide valve.
> How do I tell my wife how much toilet paper to use?
Is she bigger than you?
> Is there some guide line on how much to use. My wife uses it like crazy
> and plugs the pipe.
She created it, let her straighten out the mess. She'll learn.
While in Arizona several years ago on old Route 66 we stopped at a place
called Grand Canyon Caverns. Down in this large cave the Civil Defense
folks had set up a bomb shelter with food etc to support a large number of
people for weeks. The kicker was that they only stored enough toilet paper
to give each person 4 or 5 squares that had to last for the duration.
Dave
use daveparr@cwix dot com to reply.
BRUCE BROCKWAY
Tommy
> If my Rv toilet is plugged with toilet paper and is full of water can I
> hold the valve open (using the lever) and use an ordinary plunger on it?
> and plugs the pipe.
I would also suggest using more water 'per flush' for the uh, #2's.
My wife and I discovered this little tidbit by accident when the same
thing almost happened to us. We were trying to conserve water while
camped out in the desert miles from any hookups. Now we virtually
'waste' water when flushing the serious stuff.
Roger Knutson
WCs, the same does not exist in RVs where it is a "straight shot" into
the tank. What might be happening is that it is piling up :-) until it
reaches the valve.
roger
Stephen Sauls wrote:
>
> Well I suppose you can use the plunger. But lets suppose you are even using
> the right toilet paper. If not things will get worse.
>
> I would suggest politely that she might want to adjust the toilet paper
> usage. Other wise things will eventually get out of hand.
?out of hand? :-)
sorry, could not resist....
>
> --
> Stephen E. Sauls
> 1998 Shasta Travelmaster Class C
> web page - http://www.mindspring.com/~sesauls/
> Chamblee, Georgia\
>
> codfish <cod...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:16937-37...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net...
James Gemmill
located over a 1200 gallon closed septic system and has a thetford
toilet (incidently, it has a wax free floor, wainscoat, and is
lighted.) We use "fecal wand" to clear the toilet when matter
accumulates in the recess. The "wand is composed of a branch about
three feet long. Good luck. Just open the valve, push lightly and
voila.
Ila East
statement made by someone else bears repeating again. Again, and again I
have heard that you really need to get any toilet paper soaked before
opening the valve and letting into the black water tank. This is for
several reasons, but the one that pops up most often is that if you don't,
it tends to float on top and clog the sensors. I have also had the
experience at night (we don't turn on any lights) of not letting enough
water run and the paper makes it just to the value and then the valve closes
on it. If that happens many times, you have to get a coat hanger or the
Thetford tool and clean out the groove.
--
Ila East
ila...@bigfoot.com
Researching the surnames BARNETT, TRAMMELL, CARRIE/CAREY/CARRY/CARY,
THURMAN, WRENN
http://genealogy.east.freeservers.com
EPPOLLEY
stir.
There is a very handy device sold at RV stores that uses water pressure to
spray around down inside the tank.
All the other advice seems good too.
Everett
jim...@wildapache.net
Roland S Geter Sr
the serious stuff, I mean? Also definitely use RV toilet paper or
some of the Grocery Chain (generic) single ply TP that shreds
extremely easily anyway. (I can attest to that) Use the plunger
handle anytime. But use the plunger cup only if you are connected to
a dump sewer and the dump valve is open to release air pressure from
the pump. (of course the toilet valve must be held open) Plunge
gently though ------ many years ago I saw "someone's" husband blow a
loose fitting (unlocked) sewer hose from the connection (ahem!).
Madell M Geter RN - KD6QCH
Scottsdale AZ
480-991-7300
PS: BTW I use my professional title only because I'm always looking
for other seasonal traveling nurses that may or may not be amateur
radio hams.
--
Roland (& Madell) S Geter Sr - Scottsdale, AZ - mailto:rol...@geter.org
ICQ 10648970 "Life in the Slow Lane" RVing since 1982
Mike, CA
I would suggest that you either hang around and read the RV NG's a little longer
(as Chris Bryant suggested your husband do), get a little more RV experience
before you offer incorrect/misleading information, or refrain from coming in so
late on a thread without having first read the entire thread.
I will address your inaccurate statements individually:
Roland S Geter Sr wrote:
>
> Doesn't anyone else periodically flush while still sitting ------ for
> the serious stuff, I mean? Also definitely use RV toilet paper or
> some of the Grocery Chain (generic) single ply TP that shreds
> extremely easily anyway. (I can attest to that)
Can you indeed? The issue of which brand of TP is best for RV usage has been
discussed at GREAT length on both RV newsgroups. Your choice of generic brand,
single ply TP is exactly that. Your choice. I'd suggest that you avail
yourself of the information available on this subject at
http://www.dejanews.com.
>Use the plunger handle anytime.
This is where your warning about having the toilet valve open should be made.
>But use the plunger cup only if you are connected to
> a dump sewer and the dump valve is open to release air pressure from
> the pump. (of course the toilet valve must be held open)
RV black water holding tanks are vented to allow the release of gases. In
addition, most of them are made of semi-rigid poly materials. Ergo, the very
slight increase of pressure caused by the action of a plunger cup would have
virtually no effect whatsoever on any "pump", much less on the holding tank or a
closed dump valve.
In addition, given these facts, the experience you describe below would be very
unlikely. Since the majority of RV toilets empty directly down, into the
holding tank beneath the toilet, blowing a "loose fitting (unlocked) sewer hose
from the connection" (?) would be almost impossible.
>Plunge gently though ------ many years ago I saw "someone's" husband blow a
> loose fitting (unlocked) sewer hose from the connection (ahem!).
If this was indeed your experience, I wonder what it had to do with plunging a
clogged toilet.
> Madell M Geter RN - KD6QCH
> Scottsdale AZ
> 480-991-7300
Mike, CA
rvchem.net
By the way, my personal information is available on my web site. I don't post
it to the NG's as I prefer SPAMers not to have it.
Roland S Geter Sr
Thank you for your response. The last item on the thread my wife
answerd was 4/30/99 which was about 6 days ago. If you wish I will
make sure she responds to threads faster if you like. Sorry Mrs.
isn't answering you comments but she said you obviously afflicted with
"some long medical term" so wasn't worth her time. haha. Actually
the comments she made to the posters wife was done while she was
laughing hysterically. She really didn't believe people could have an
intelligent constructive public conversation about something she has
to deal with daily in an acute hospital environment. (Iguess you
proved her wrong, eh Mike CA. <G> Anyway I've got a little more time
than she does because she spends here little time on the Internet in
the medical links. Here goes.
On Fri, 07 May 1999 16:19:48 -0700, "Mike, CA" <m...@thegrid.net>
wrote:
>Mrs. Geter;
>
>I would suggest that you either hang around and read the RV NG's a little longer
>(as Chris Bryant suggested your husband do), get a little more RV experience
>before you offer incorrect/misleading information, or refrain from coming in so
>late on a thread without having first read the entire thread.
>
>I will address your inaccurate statements individually:
>
>Roland S Geter Sr wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't anyone else periodically flush while still sitting ------ for
>> the serious stuff, I mean? Also definitely use RV toilet paper or
>> some of the Grocery Chain (generic) single ply TP that shreds
>> extremely easily anyway. (I can attest to that)
>
>Can you indeed? The issue of which brand of TP is best for RV usage has been
>discussed at GREAT length on both RV newsgroups. Your choice of generic brand,
>single ply TP is exactly that. Your choice. I'd suggest that you avail
>yourself of the information available on this subject at
>http://www.dejanews.com.
>
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As you mighrt be aware, Mike CA, Internet Newgroups are PUBLIC FORUMS.
If you wish I'll pass along some links by private E-Mail for your
indulgance. Basically they fall under your and my First Amendment
Right. In short Mike CA it shows very bad taste to tell someone in
the United States of America they can't express their oen choice of RV
toilet paper use, OK? <G>
Roland
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>>Use the plunger handle anytime.
>
>This is where your warning about having the toilet valve open should be made.
>
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OK. But I think Mrs. Geter was trying not to be presumptuos or more
importantly sarcastic to the original poster. Sorry if the timing of
the statement didn't please you.
Roland
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>>But use the plunger cup only if you are connected to
>> a dump sewer and the dump valve is open to release air pressure from
>> the pump. (of course the toilet valve must be held open)
>
>RV black water holding tanks are vented to allow the release of gases. In
>addition, most of them are made of semi-rigid poly materials. Ergo, the very
>slight increase of pressure caused by the action of a plunger cup would have
>virtually no effect whatsoever on any "pump", much less on the holding tank or a
>closed dump valve.
>In addition, given these facts, the experience you describe below would be very
>unlikely. Since the majority of RV toilets empty directly down, into the
>holding tank beneath the toilet, blowing a "loose fitting (unlocked) sewer hose
>from the connection" (?) would be almost impossible.
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Ooooops! I'm sorry again...... boy, you're sharp Mike! Mrs. didn't
detail that I climbed to the roof and covered the vent with my hand
after removing the cover while she plungered. Our first unit was a
1978 Coachman we purchased in 1982 in Houston. We made many early
mistakes like opening our sewer valve while parked a couple of weeks.
Well you know what happened..... the toilet paper and waste turned
into a "concrete" like substance that had to be removed by a
serviceman after removing the sewer valve. After 20yrs of RV'ing
while traveling we still run into people almost daily that make the
same mistake. Hey, Mike we all were beginners once. We all have to
learn sometime.... thanks to these public forums we have even picked
up valuable hints.
Roland
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>
>>Plunge gently though ------ many years ago I saw "someone's" husband blow a
>> loose fitting (unlocked) sewer hose from the connection (ahem!).
>
>If this was indeed your experience, I wonder what it had to do with plunging a
>clogged toilet.
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You're funny, MIke CA.
Roland
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>
>> Madell M Geter RN - KD6QCH
>> Scottsdale AZ
>> 480-991-7300
>
>Mike, CA
>rvchem.net
>
>By the way, my personal information is available on my web site. I don't post
>it to the NG's as I prefer SPAMers not to have it.
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Privately email me your website, please. BTW most SPAMers are
automatic so they don't know you from me. In other words most just
look at your "Reply-to" address in your packet header. Just change
your email address to something like: mjbN...@thegrid.net
In your email signature and the end of each letter instruct responders
to remove the NOSPAM to answer.
fesch...@my-dejanews.com
knut...@tc.umn.edu wrote:
> Since a plunger is usually used to clear the 'bends' of standard home
> WCs, the same does not exist in RVs where it is a "straight shot" into
> the tank. What might be happening is that it is piling up :-) until it
> reaches the valve.
> roger
Roger, you may be correct in some RV's but mine has a 90 degree elbo directly
below the Thedford WC. For some reason this particular unit will fill the top
half of the tank and leave the bottom half empty (No one seems to know of a
black tank with 2 stories, or baffles BUT....). My solution was to attempt
using a standard snake both up from the bottom and down from the top - no
success, still had same problem. Next we tried a rubber hose with water
pressure - no success, just a bigger mess... The last suggestion was to pour
in a bottle of "Liquid Plumber", which was tried just this week. The jury is
still out on whether it worked or not but the water level went down on its
own after only a couple of hours, which would seem to indicate that we
succeeded this time. -- Fred Schreier
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Moody kopp
I would suggest more fiber in your diet.
Should alleviate the problem in short order.
JMK
rvtoile...@gmail.com
richard
> Amazing New Invention, TWISTER Rv Toilet Plunger works by Moving the Waste Pile in the Holding Tank with a simple Twist. Can be Purchased on EBay under Rv toilet plunger. Pile Moving Magic be the Camp Ground Hero.
It's actually an auger bit with a wide flange right?
So those things have been around for years.
got anything new to offer?
rvtoile...@gmail.com
> If my Rv toilet is plugged with toilet paper and is full of water can I
> hold the valve open (using the lever) and use an ordinary plunger on it?
> How do I tell my wife how much toilet paper to use?
> Is there some guide line on how much to use. My wife uses it like crazy
> and plugs the pipe.
Tom J
> On Tuesday, April 20, 1999 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, codfish wrote:
>> If my Rv toilet is plugged with toilet paper and is full of water
>> can I hold the valve open (using the lever) and use an ordinary
>> plunger on it? How do I tell my wife how much toilet paper to use?
>> Is there some guide line on how much to use. My wife uses it like
>> crazy and plugs the pipe.
put in a glass of water. Cup one hand over the top and shake for a couple of
minutes. You should have mush - no solid paper left. If not, go to the
grocery store (NOT THE RV STORE) and buy a roll of 2 or 3 brands until you
find one that does dissolve when shook!! Start using that brand in the RV
and fill the bowl with water before flushing. Water with each flush and the
dissolving toilet paper is the best solution once you get the current
blockage out. Once you use all the brand that desolves, check the next
package you buy to make sure it still desolves. Paper companies swap product
all the time!! If your wife can't wipe with about 4 thicknesses of toilet
paper, she needs to cut her finger nails!!
I have never had a plugged drain on my black water tank in 38 years of
RVing!!
Tom J