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gil

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Jan 17, 2004, 7:25:35 PM1/17/04
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I'm in the market for an electric heater to warm up my truck camper. I had
one of those little Pelonis disc furnace types many years back. That little
thing would heat up a room pretty good, and real quiet going about its
business too. I see all different types of heaters in Walmart ranging from
$17 to $80 or so. They don't have the Pelonis ( can't find it anywhere ) but
they do have a cube type for $18. Which ones are best for heating campers?
Any specific brands ?

My preferences are- 1. Compact 2. Decent heat output 3. Quiet fan


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phil willen

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Jan 17, 2004, 9:15:05 PM1/17/04
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We use a small cube ceramic bought at Target years ago.
Cost was $35 then, probably cheaper now. It kept us cozy in the snow in New
Mexico. Very compact and efficient.

Phil

Mike F

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Jan 17, 2004, 9:53:05 PM1/17/04
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Space heaters are about watts, not hardware. Oil, ceramics, steel coils,
carbon rods, unobtanium . . . ya puts watts of electricity in it and out
comes watts of heat. Unless that sucker jumps abound the room and moves the
furniture in the process, it's a very efficient converter of electrical
energy to heat. After all, even the losses, such as resistance in the wiring
and plug, are dissipated as . . . heat. You can't lose, so you may as well
KISS.

Thus I pick my space heaters -- and we've used a lot of them over the years
rather than heat our whole home to a uniform temp -- by wattage. Most space
heaters have two "speeds", 1,000 and 1,500 watts. I want a wider option
spread, so I use the ones that offer 750 and 1,500. 750 is almost always
enough to keep one person cozy in a cool space.

Mike F

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Tom Marik

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Jan 17, 2004, 10:42:13 PM1/17/04
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<< I want a wider option spread, so I use the ones that offer 750 and 1,500.
750 is almost always
enough to keep one person cozy in a cool space.

Mike F >>

I agree, but I'd add that I like fan driven heaters that are cool to the touch.
Run on 750 watts, they are about as safe as a heater can be.

Tom M

lfm

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Jan 17, 2004, 10:45:00 PM1/17/04
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This is what we have - it is very quiet and light weight, and can keep the
trailer pretty comfortable. It has a thermostat - you can set it at
60/65/70/75F.

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=13013047&RN=81&
xyz=xyz


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dave martin

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Jan 18, 2004, 3:17:56 AM1/18/04
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"lfm" <lf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<0jnOb.13707$1e.1...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> This is what we have - it is very quiet and light weight, and can keep the
> trailer pretty comfortable. It has a thermostat - you can set it at
> 60/65/70/75F.
>

All electric heaters have the same basic efficiency as stated earlier
regardless of cost.

Fanless infrared heaters are great for aiming heat where you want it;
typically they don't heat air, rather, they heat whatever they shine
on. You for instance.

Heaters with fans are better at heating spaces but are often noisy; I
choose which one to buy primarily on how loud it is.

If you need to heat yourself and you won't be moving around a lot, an
infrared heater will require the least energy because it directs heat
straight to you.

I recently replaced the 1500W fan type electric heater in my study
with a 250W infrared bulb under the desk. I had to put a dimmer on
the bulb because I got too hot! This strategy works because all of the
output from the bulb is directed to heating me & not the whole room.

Your choice should consider what you want to warm.

Steve Elmore

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Jan 18, 2004, 7:57:08 AM1/18/04
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There is a difference in the distribution of heat. One of the reasons the
ceramic disc heaters "feel" better is that they evenly heat the entire
volume of air that passes through them and waste very few watts radiantly
and conductively heating the unit and the immediate surroundings. While
both a ceramic disc and wire coil heater may both convert 1500 watts to
heat, the disc heater uses that 1500 watts to uniformly heat a volume of air
to 70F and push it into the room, a coil heater may only heat the 'pushed'
air to 65F and heat the heater surfaces and immediate surrounds to 80F.

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>
> >Space heaters are about watts, not hardware. Oil, ceramics, steel coils,
> >carbon rods, unobtanium . . . ya puts watts of electricity in it and out
> >comes watts of heat. Unless that sucker jumps abound the room and moves
the
> >furniture in the process, it's a very efficient converter of electrical
> >energy to heat. After all, even the losses, such as resistance in the
wiring
> >and plug, are dissipated as . . . heat. You can't lose, so you may as
well
> >KISS.
>

> Correct. A $20 space heater produces the same amount of heat as a
> fancy/schmancy $90 one. Portable ones are limited to 1500w max.
>
> Will Sill


Montana Mike

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Jan 18, 2004, 10:33:36 AM1/18/04
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The last 2 winters we have lived in our 28 ft TT in WA while I do some
contract work. We travel home to Montana one week per month, leaving the RV
in WA. As the RV park monthly fee ($425) includes electricity, we heat with
a space heater and not propane.

The space heaters with the digital controls **do not come back on** if the
power fails. Obviously it would not be good if the power failed during the
week we are gone and the heater did not come back on.

We are using a Vornado VH2 heater (1500w) that we bought at Costco a couple
years ago for $50. It will keep the trailer at 70+ until the outside temp
drops below freezing, then it seeems to hold 65ish. When we got back to
Bothell on Jan 4th, the outside temp was 15 - I had the heater set on about
50 and it was about 50 inside.

montana mike


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George E. Cawthon

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Jan 18, 2004, 4:51:03 PM1/18/04
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I have a Pelonis, but I don't consider it quiet, just one
fan speed. I still have an old ribbon type that we used for
20 years, and although it is much bigger it is also much
quieter. Lowe's had Pelonis in the fall (like November),
but I haven't looked recently.

gil

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Jan 18, 2004, 6:14:27 PM1/18/04
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The Pelonis I had you could hear the fan when initially warming up the room
( about as loud as any cheap heater ) but once it got up to temperature the
fan would go into low speed. At this point I could feel the heat blown but
the fan was almost inaudible.

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gil

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Jan 18, 2004, 6:15:33 PM1/18/04
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How is the fan noise on that Vornado?

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Montana Mike

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Jan 19, 2004, 12:01:21 AM1/19/04
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The fan noise is reasonable to me. With the fan in the front of the trailer
and the bedroom in the back, I can't hear the fan at all. I'm currently
sitting about 3 feet from it and I can just barely hear it with the TV on. I
have an "el cheapo" $18 one that the fan noise is wayyyy to loud for me.

mike in montana

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George E. Cawthon

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Jan 19, 2004, 8:23:48 PM1/19/04
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That would be really nice. Maybe mine is just the cheap
model. My model is HC-441C. The fan is full speed or off.

HDinNY

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:29:02 AM1/20/04
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George E. Cawthon wrote:

> That would be really nice. Maybe mine is just the cheap
> model. My model is HC-441C. The fan is full speed or off.
>

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I'll tack my choice onto your post George. My choice for the
"best" electric heater is the type we use. It's an oil
filled model with two elements, 900 and 600 watts which
gives three settings. It isn't as fast acting as a fan
forced model but has a very narrow range once the air is up
to heat. It also is absolutely quiet. I have it behind my
chair and only hear the switch clicking to turn on the heat.
These heaters only cost about $35 and do a nice job of
heating an open space like our trailer.

The biggest disadvantage is the size. It won't fit the close
space in a pickup camper or many tight spaced rv's.
HD in FL

dave martin

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Jan 20, 2004, 12:09:18 PM1/20/04
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"gil" <free...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<psEOb.4112$_u4....@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...

> How is the fan noise on that Vornado?

I have a number of Vornado fans & can attest that they are very quiet
compared to other fans at comparable flow rates.

Unfortunately I don't have a Vornado space heater to compare but think
it is a very good bet that they will also be quiet; at least they have
the same ducting design that is the origin of the fan's silence.

racem...@webtv.net

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Jan 20, 2004, 6:06:34 PM1/20/04
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I have a Honeywell Oil Radiator type heater. It was $34.88 at Walmart.
When you turn this up to the highest setting, it heats the 36 ft. TT
that I have. Heat rises so it is subtle at first..then you warm up
nicely. Space heaters you can have blow directly on you. I have
both..750 to 1500 Watts.
The problem with my TT is that when the heat is off even for a little
while, the insulation is minimal and the place cools off like a car
does..quickly.
Good luck.
Bryan/Jax/FL..33 tonight.


Peter Pan

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Jan 20, 2004, 6:33:11 PM1/20/04
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I have a small fan that I use in the summer, and like the person above have
an oil-filled electric for the cold months (lowes has em on sale also, but
for a bit more (($35.86)). I found that putting the fan on the floor,
blowing thru the radiator, warmed my whole RV in the winter and got rid of
those annoying "cold spots". Not only worked like a charm, it kept my feet
and hands warm, but I never had to worry about it getting too hot and
starting fires (and I could also put my gloves and shoes on it to warm em up
before going outside).


Bob Giddings

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Jan 21, 2004, 11:10:09 PM1/21/04
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I bought a couple of Pelonis 441bs at Walmart last year, and one of
them is toasting my toes at the moment. Cheap, too. I like it
because the fan distributes the heat from the ceramic cores well. One
is all I need in my 27 foot trailer down to the 30s. I've never
needed more than two.

Bob
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JustMe

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Jan 23, 2004, 10:07:35 PM1/23/04
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:33:11 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<Marcs11...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I have a small fan that I use in the summer, and like the person above have
>an oil-filled electric for the cold months (lowes has em on sale also, but
>for a bit more (($35.86)). I found that putting the fan on the floor,
>blowing thru the radiator, warmed my whole RV in the winter and got rid of
>those annoying "cold spots". Not only worked like a charm, it kept my feet
>and hands warm, but I never had to worry about it getting too hot and
>starting fires (and I could also put my gloves and shoes on it to warm em up
>before going outside).
>

I do something similar except I installed an outlet on the heater that
is only on when the heater thermostat is calling for heat. When the
heater comes on so does the fan. I can turn off the fan when I go to
sleep but leave the heater on.

Jon

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