Ford 460 vs. V10?
cvdell
Jamboree with 30k miles for $25k. Should I be concerned about the older
technology engine and chassis? It looks like another $7k to $10k would get
me a 1999 V10 with a higher gross vehicle weight (14,050 vs. 12,200) - but
the coach would be just about identical. Opinions?
Steve Barker
v-10 crap. Which is bigger cubic inches? That's the one I'd go for. There
is NO substitute for cubic inches.
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"cvdell" <cvd...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Lee Bray
purchases, which would be the better buy. However I bought a 22 ft 94
Jamboree with the 460 engine 3 years ago and have had no problems and have
enjoyed it. It has gone from Florida to NY 3 times with no problems and
pulled all the mountains with ease! It is easy to drive and easy to find
parking! I would say it just depends on you, are you willing to part with
the extra 7 to 10 K? If so do it. But remember as I have learned myself
and from people who are on the group, if you like RVing you will end up
trading later on, if you don't you won't lose as much with the less
expensive model. Fact is after reading all the stuff on the ng I think I
did the right thing for a beginner! Who knows what I will end up with later
?????
Lee
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Bill & Barbara Ruh
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Our 1991 22' class c has a 460 with e4od transmission. It's been a good
engine, 78k total miles, 33k from us, getting 8.5mpg. Different years have
varying power and torque ratings, but the v10 is the stronger engine. And
the v10 gets 1-2mpg better mileage. But both are good engines and I
wouldn't let the engine sway my decision.
The chassis is another matter, as safety and handling are priorities to me.
I personally wouldn't buy a 29' class c with a 12200lb gvwr. Have you
weighed it? It must be close to that weight with only gas/water and no
people/gear. What is the wheelbase? Lots of older class c's have a 158"
wheelbase and long overhang. The e450 (14050lb gvwr and 176" wheelbase)
came out around 1997; that would be a requirement for me if I were buying a
larger class c...
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Marty Bose
cvdell <cvd...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Having owned a 1996 25' Mini Winnie with a 460 and a 2000 30' Safari
Class C with the V-10, I'd spend the extra money for the V-10, for 2
reasons.
(1) While our 460 was a good engine the V-10, despite its smaller
displacement, has a much more usable torque band. Our heavier 30; will
easily run up a steep hill that had is struggling with the lighter 25'
460 rig. Mileage for both rigs is about the same.
(2) The later Ford chassis have MUCH better brakes. The 4-wheel disk
brakes on our Safari are fantastic.
(3) BTW, the 2000 and later V-10's are rated at 315 HP versus the 275
HP for the 1999 and earlier.
Marty
Jack Cassidy
"cvdell" <cvd...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The old 460 is just that, old, it has been around for a long time and is
rather long in the tooth, The V10 is much more state of the art and has
proven to be a dependable workhorse. The V10 makes more horsepower on less
cubic inches and generally will give much better fuel mileage.
In 2000 the V10 cylinder heads were changed giving it 25 more horsepower
than the 1999 but that wouldn't stop me from considering a 99 if I were
looking. The 460 was a good engine that has been around for a long time, in
my opinion the V10 is better. In addition the higher GVW of the newer coach
would probably make me part with the extra bucks.
Jack Cassidy
Barrie Brozenske
cvd...@earthlink.net says...
better handling an longer life under whatever load you put on it. The V-
10 in my 99 coach has been very good to us, now showing 33,000 miles
with no problems. It has high torque and runs 60 mph at the peak torque
engine speed of 2450 rpm, giving excellent efficiency. I do not know
your financial constraints, but if I could afford either, I'd go for the
newer coach.
Just my opinion,
Barrie B
ELLEN KANE
a gas hog. Our new unit has the V10 and is a dream. Better gas mileage, good
performance, and more importantly it does not go through exhaust manifolds
like the 460! That is a very expensive repair and quite common on 460's.
Good luck
Ken
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JDavis1277
OK, no argument from me??
Butch
Ron wrote: >The 460 was available in 96 and the V-10 was introduced in 97.
>
In response to my: >>The V-10 is vastly superior. Several of those touting
the 460 are in much
>>smaller rigs..
mark
If both have a usable load of say 2000 pounds, does it matter whether it has
a gvw of 14k or 12k?
Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie
"mark" <ma...@markandlucymiller.com> wrote:
> Now wait a minute ... you have to make it apples to apples.
>
One, please learn to quote at least some of what you are following up
> If both have a usable load of say 2000 pounds, does it matter whether it has
> a gvw of 14k or 12k?
>
Two, it might. The additional 2000 lbs may add things they could find
useful, like a generator
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If Windows is the answer I would really like to know what the question is
mark
quote, I won't. I get awful tired of wading thru a pile of quotes to get to
what someone is trying to say.
As far as your comment about how additional weight might add benefits, I can
only go back to the original message that states "the coach would be just
about identical".