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D Colosi

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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I have been doing my research on pop ups and narrowed down my choices to
Starcraft, Jayco and Coleman. I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best and am
interested in peoples thoughts. I have seen a lot of posts about the roof
sag on coleman campers and wondered if anyone who has a 1999 or newer has
run into this problem. I am looking at the 2001 model and from what I see,
it looks pretty sturdy to me. I would be adding an A/C unit since I am in
the South.

BethK

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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In article <8nrj6d$18e$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,

"D Colosi" <dco...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I have been doing my research on pop ups and narrowed down my choices
to
> Starcraft, Jayco and Coleman. I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best
and am
> interested in peoples thoughts.

We really like our Sea Pine. I think it's the most efficient use of
space in any 10-footer, but if you have kids you'll probably get tired
of them having to climb over the dinette to go to bed. At least that's
what others have said, it's just the 2 of us and we don't have a
problem. If you go to deja.com and do a power search of this newsgroup
for "Sea Pine" you'll see many comments including mine from previous
discussions.

--
Beth
'99 Coleman Sea Pine


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Cheesehead

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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>Like all 10 foot trailers that we have ever seen, you can't access the
>fridge while the top is down. We found that to be very inconvienent and
>that's the single biggest reason why we probably wouldn't buy one. Again,
>this is true of all manufacturers 10 foot models, it is not a Coleman thing.

Guess you never looked at Jayco? They have a two models the 10UD and
the 10X, both of which can easily have access. Probably did not look
at Starcraft either as the Stardust is 10' and can get at the fridge
as well. Guess it must be a Coleman thing, just like roof sag is
mainly a Coleman thing.

Glen & Evelyn

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Aug 21, 2000, 8:10:04 PM8/21/00
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"While waiting for our 2001 Mesa to arrive the dealer gave us a Sea Pine
from the rental fleet to use for one week. We really enjoyed using it.
It towed absolutely the best of all of the four different pop-ups that I
have ever towed. It's the first time I could really relate to the too often
used expression, "I hardly knew it was back there". Sway was not an issue.
It differs from the other Coleman 10 foot pop-ups in that the lounge and
dinette are both next to bunks. This is good and bad as it's a very
efficient use of space and gives lots of floor "walk around" space. It's
bad in that you have to crawl over something to get to the bunks. That is
the same with any make with this style of trailer so it's not unique to
Coleman.

Like all 10 foot trailers that we have ever seen, you can't access the
fridge while the top is down. We found that to be very inconvienent and
that's the single biggest reason why we probably wouldn't buy one. Again,
this is true of all manufacturers 10 foot models, it is not a Coleman thing.

Oh and if you're buying new, don't worry about the roof as the warranty
should take care of you.

Glen
01 Mesa
98 Explorer


From the PNW

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Aug 22, 2000, 12:36:40 AM8/22/00
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In article <8nrj6d$18e$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>, "D Colosi" <dco...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I have been doing my research on pop ups and narrowed down my choices to
>Starcraft, Jayco and Coleman. I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best and am
>interested in peoples thoughts. I have seen a lot of posts about the roof
>sag on coleman campers and wondered if anyone who has a 1999 or newer has
>run into this problem. I am looking at the 2001 model and from what I see,
>it looks pretty sturdy to me. I would be adding an A/C unit since I am in
>the South.

We had a '98 SeaPine, recently changed to an '01 SanteFe. Primary reason was
that the dinette table blocked getting to the rear bed and we had to climb
over the sofa to get to the front bed. The dinette makes using the rear bed
very frustrating, and the seat back cushion had a plywood back that stuck up
above the top of the front bed just enough to get a knee or shinbone every
time. Moving the seat back cushion somewhere else was another pain.

Other than that, the SeaPine is a great floor plan. The '98 had the U-shaped
seating in the front, and I enjoyed being able to sit there rather than having
to sit at the dinette. The ice chest under the sofa was removeable and I
converted the drawer into a pots and pans drawer for my wife. Lots of good
storage under the dinette seats and the sofa and easily accessed. The porta
potti cabinet door in the '98 was smaller than the smallest porta potti sold
by the dealer. I had to enlarge the opening to get the Porta Potti 135 to fit
through it. Easily done, but an oversight by Coleman, nonetheless.

Gail
In the Great PNW

Brian Wood

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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The Seapines dpon't have the U-shape dinette anymore...we love our
SeaPine...it was a choice between that and the Sante Fe at the time due to
our towing capacities at that time. We love our 00 SeaPine. As far as
crawling over things to get to the beds..we look at them as ladders....We
like having the couch in the camper compared to the long counter top... As
someone said..as far as the open floor space..it is great...

--
Brian and Angie
00 Ford Explorer
00 Jeep Wrangler
00 Coleman SeaPine
http://www.nuttybuddyproductions.com/camping

TWRud

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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Likewise our 99 seapine is great. No roof sag issues, tows great, never had a
sway issue. We enjoy the open space of the setup at th expense of crawling
over the couch.

the_peach...@my-deja.com

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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We have a 1997 Sea Pine. I selected the floor
plan because I wanted two separate seating
areas. The thought of all of us sitting around
the dinette on a rainy day sent chills up my
spine. Don't get me wrong. I love my family
but.....

The 10ft box was our only option (other than the
8 ft box my husband had his eye on!). My
husband, the mechanic, just didn't want to tow
anything heavier than necessary. Which meant no
front storage area either. Fortunately, that did
not turn out to be a problem for us. We can
store everything we need in the Sea Pine (even a
microwave, 13in TV and a box full of tacky
lights) with room to spare. We even found a
porta-potty that fits fine in the storage area
provided.

The "crawling over the seats" issue to get to bed
is not really a problem for us. One of our kids
sleeps on the double bed (dinette) end and once
he is in for the night we don't hear from him
until morning. On the king side it is not a huge
problem either--although I admit that crawling up
the gaucho to get to bed is not ideal but is
worth the aggrevation for me to get the separate
seating arrangement.

Getting into the fridge while popped down? Not
an issue for us because we do not have a 3 way.
It was not standard in 1997. We have a dorm
refrige in the camper. We use an electric cooler
in the car when traveling.

You know...floor plan preference is a very
personal issue and one not easily explainable.
For example, the Santa Fe plan doesn't do a thing
for me. I want seats not cabinets yet others
swear by it. Go figure.

I LOVE my Sea Pine. I am THRILLED my husband
agreed to buy it instead pushing his preference,
the Taos.

Ken

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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You know...floor plan preference is a very
personal issue and one not easily explainable.
For example, the Santa Fe plan doesn't do a thing
for me. I want seats not cabinets yet others
swear by it. Go figure.

You are right: I is strange what works for us. For me I got the SantaFe
for the long counter but because it's just me I did not need a couch. I
just pop my can on the bunk when I need a rest. But I tell you I would
nott trade my Cassette poty for the world. Worth every inch it takes up.
All my best. Ken
--
Visit My Camping Web Site
http://home.rochester.rr.com./sar/camping.htm

Glen & Evelyn

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Aug 22, 2000, 8:09:37 PM8/22/00
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Okay, I guess that I've not spent much time looking at 10' trailers. I know
that Coleman's, Rockwood's, and the Jayco Heritage 10' will not let you
access the fridge while the top is down. You can get in but you can't
access the fridge. That was a nasty shot about the Coleman roofs though.
I recall a posting about a month ago about a Jayco roof with severe sag.
I could get picky and point at Jayco's and mention the common crank bank
problem that they have (I had one) but I'm not about to start criticizing
other brands.

Tom Warfield

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Aug 22, 2000, 10:23:55 PM8/22/00
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:09:37 GMT, "Glen & Evelyn"
<gb...@planet.eon.net> wrote:

>Okay, I guess that I've not spent much time looking at 10' trailers. I know
>that Coleman's, Rockwood's, and the Jayco Heritage 10' will not let you
>access the fridge while the top is down.

Move up to the larger 12' trailers and you will find several models,
Coleman included, that allow access to the fridge when closed. I just
finished loading my Mesa for our next trip, including the fridge,
without unlatching the top.
*****************
-Tom Warfield
> 2000 Coleman Mesa
> 1999 Ford Ranger (4dr supercab, 4.0L, 5sp AT w/OD)
> In the great Pacific NorthWest (sw washington)
http://communities.msn.com/PopUpTrailerCamping

Speir2

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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In article <39a32db1...@news.newsguy.com>, twarfiel -at- hotmail -dot-
com (Tom Warfield) writes:

>Okay, I guess that I've not spent much time looking at 10' trailers. I know
>>that Coleman's, Rockwood's, and the Jayco Heritage 10' will not let you
>>access the fridge while the top is down.
>

I have a Jayco Eagle 10 SG one can access the fridge easily
with the top down.
2000 Chev S-10
1999 Jayco Eagle 10SG
Elzie Speir, Jackson, GA


Glen & Evelyn

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Aug 23, 2000, 10:32:09 PM8/23/00
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Thanks Tom but you may recall that I own a 2001 Mesa and fridge access was
one of the reasons for it. I thought that all 10' models prevented access
but it was pointed out that Jayco 10' models do allow fridge access.
Coleman 10' pop-ups put the fridge behind the swing down galley so it's no
access without a full roof lift.

Glen
01 Mesa (with small but handy fridge)
98 Explorer


dej...@my-deja.com

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Aug 23, 2000, 11:22:32 PM8/23/00
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We have a 00 Sea Pine, bought in April. No problems with roof sag, but
no AC, either. We live in a place where getting cool is rarely a
problem, but staying warm can be (gotta love that 15k BTU furnace after
tenting all these years!).

The flooplan is good and bad, the location of the dinette gives you
that extra sofa, which is really nice. But it is a pain for full-size
people to get in and sit down at it, and as everyone points out, you
have to crawl over it to get to one of the bunks. If you or members of
your family are at all on the wide-size, you might want to go with the
layout of the Sante Fe.

Other than that, everything has worked for the 6 or 7 days that we have
used it so far, and our mini-van handles towing it without complaint.
My only real complaint is that I've had trouble getting the water
heater and fridge to start several times...Gotta have the dealer take a
look at that this fall.

Be sure to get the electric brakes, an important safety feature.

-dm

Brian Wood

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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take your camper to a propane dealer and let them purge the tank....we found
after our first trip that it was hard to get it started...matter of fact
couldn't get it started...took it to a propane dealer because i thought it
was empty....he said it hadn't been purged before they put the propane in
it..gave a technical reason about the air and the gas in the
tank...anyway...he let it purge for about 5-10 minutes and put 8#'s of gas
in it and that was filled...I thought I was having a problem with the hot
water heater this past weekend but realized the wind was blowing it out....

dana rasmussen

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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We have a 97 SeaPine, and love the layout. We eat outside 90% of the
time so I jist have the table stowed next to the seat with the water
tank under it. It tows great, we got cought in a thunder storm in
southern Ore. last year that had side winds blowing trees over, and I
never felt a thing. For 3-4 persons, I think its a great rig.

WB

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Sep 1, 2000, 10:43:19 PM9/1/00
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> Coleman 10' pop-ups put the fridge behind the swing down galley so
it's no
> access without a full roof lift.
>
> Glen
> 01 Mesa (with small but handy fridge)
> 98 Explorer
>
>

Glen:

Not to split hairs, but that's not true either. One issue I decided to
check out BEFORE we even bought our Santa Fe was whether I could lift
the roof high enough with the trailer parked inside in my workshop,
which has limited ceiling clearance, so I could raise the swing level
galley, thereby allowing me to load or unload the fridge (and the rest
of the camper for that matter) in really inclement weather. There's no
way I can lift the roof fully up but I CAN lift it enough to raise the
swing the galley fully up.

Having said that, we chose the Santa Fe over the Sea Pine because we
HATED climbing past the dinette to get to the bed in our previous Jayco
Eagle 10UD, but we would have otherwise chosen the Sun Valley which
does allow direct access to the fridge with the top down, but felt it
was just too heavy for our 3.0L van.

Bill in Ontario
2000 Santa Fe

dej...@my-deja.com

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Sep 2, 2000, 11:31:50 AM9/2/00
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In article <LWsp5.3752$UX6.1...@news-east.usenetserver.com>,

"Brian Wood" <wbw...@knology.net> wrote:
> take your camper to a propane dealer and let them purge the
tank....we found
> after our first trip that it was hard to get it started...matter of
fact
> couldn't get it started...took it to a propane dealer because i
thought it
> was empty....he said it hadn't been purged before they put the
propane in
> it..gave a technical reason about the air and the gas in the
> tank...anyway...he let it purge for about 5-10 minutes and put 8#'s
of gas
> in it and that was filled...I thought I was having a problem with the
hot
> water heater this past weekend but realized the wind was blowing it
out....
>
>
Interesting. The day we bought ours, the dealer sent us down the street
to a station that they said knew how to purge the tank properly. Yet
I've still had problems since we got the trailer getting it (and to a
lesser extent) the fridge to light. The stove has no such problem.
Neither does the furnace... So what does that tell me?

Brian Wood

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Sep 3, 2000, 9:24:27 AM9/3/00
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I've noticed that sometimes if there was a distance of time from camping
trips that it was harder to light....if I kept trying, it eventually would
light...

Brian Wood

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Sep 3, 2000, 9:54:10 AM9/3/00
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When we bought our SeaPine we were looking at the Santa Fe actually...I
started looking at the floor plans of the SeaPine and we both stated we
didn't like having to climb over the dinette and couch to get to bed. But,
then we started looking at space. Angie, doesn't like things to be
cluttered. She didn't like the idea of leaving things up on the long counter
in the Santa Fe and rendered it useless to us. i told her about the SeaPine
and we went back up to look at them and we both liked the more openess
(floor space) the SeaPine had and it was more improtant to US. We also liked
the idea of the couch were we could if we wanted could come in during the
day and take a short nap without having to get up on the bunkends or could
watch tv if we so desired from it's location....but you have to get what
youlike and what is improtant to YOU! Your mind changes after you spend a
weekend in one. Angie didn't want the shower or toilet either, but think if
we traded in, she wou;ld go for one now.!

KEN

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Sep 3, 2000, 9:55:51 AM9/3/00
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Nice web site and pictures. Could you ask the Dalton gang to catch some
bigger fish for me.

KEN

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Sep 3, 2000, 9:58:18 AM9/3/00
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Brian check out here when you get a chance. http://www.mclears.com. My
next and last place to go before going down. Supposed to be one of the
best fishing places in the country. Ken

Brian Wood

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Sep 3, 2000, 10:04:31 AM9/3/00
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looks like a great place! Wish we could get a bunch of rain to fill our
lakes bake up around here...I remeber a few years ago they were too high,
now they are too low for the last couple of years..

mrw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 5, 2000, 5:41:48 PM9/5/00
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Hi,

We had a 99 Coleman Santa Fe and it was a nice camper. We did end up
with a sagging roof though, which Coleman did make right by replacing.
I have a friend who has a Sea Pine and he is very pleased with it. I
think he also had a roof replaced, but has had no trouble with it since.

Apart from the roof problem I am of the opinion that Coleman builds a
nice pop up camper and would have no trouble recommending one if you
are in the market for one.

Happy Camping

2001 Coachmen Catalina Lite 249QB

In article <8nrj6d$18e$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
"D Colosi" <dco...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I have been doing my research on pop ups and narrowed down my choices
to
> Starcraft, Jayco and Coleman. I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best
and am
> interested in peoples thoughts. I have seen a lot of posts about
the roof
> sag on coleman campers and wondered if anyone who has a 1999 or newer
has
> run into this problem. I am looking at the 2001 model and from what
I see,
> it looks pretty sturdy to me. I would be adding an A/C unit since I
am in
> the South.
>
>

cajuncamper

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Sep 5, 2000, 8:06:12 PM9/5/00
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dm!

I really don't have the answer. I lit the propane on my fridge for the
first time since I bought it 9 months ago (had used strictly AC before). It
took me a good 15 minutes before mine finally lit. Whew! It was work! and
getting down on the floor to see the blue flame in the window was a pain.
If I try it again, and it doesn't work better, will just continue to use AC.

Hal

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BethK

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In article <srv2uk...@corp.supernews.com>,
mjs...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
> > And contrary to some
opinions, not
> >ALL Colemans sag!
>
> No disagreement from me - I'm sure there are a couple out there
somewhere :-)

Well, Mark, I've got one of them. And frankly I'm getting sick and tired
of hearing about how Colemans have the dreaded roof sag.

A few months ago I did an analysis of all the messages that had been
posted to this newsgroup about roof sag. There were a couple hundred as
I recall. And exactly seven individuals actually had experienced the
sag! (There have been a couple more since then.)

Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag." Really, can't we get
past this topic and generate some discussion that involves more brain
and less smart-ass?

And, yeah I saw your smiley face. It didn't make me any happier with
your note. But if it makes you feel better, here's one back. :-)

--
Beth, cranky as all get-out
'99 Coleman Sea Pine

Mark J Strawcutter

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Sep 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/13/00
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>Well, Mark, I've got one of them. And frankly I'm getting sick and tired
>of hearing about how Colemans have the dreaded roof sag.

Me too. Sure would be nice if the problem could be solved.

>A few months ago I did an analysis of all the messages that had been
>posted to this newsgroup about roof sag. There were a couple hundred as
>I recall. And exactly seven individuals actually had experienced the
>sag! (There have been a couple more since then.)

My analysis of several dealer's used camper lots puts it at about 50%-75%

>Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
>immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
>anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
>topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag." Really, can't we get
>past this topic and generate some discussion that involves more brain
>and less smart-ass?

I'm not sure how keeping an honest perspective on things is any more
objectionable than the expositions by Coleman apologists.

My postings on the subject will continue to be in response to those
concerned with the sag issue itself or considering the purchase of
a used unit. I'll probably slip on occasion, but I do know there have
been lot's of discussions about Colemans and sway problems that have _not_
elicited a sag-related response from yours truly. So it takes more than
just the mention of "Coleman".

>And, yeah I saw your smiley face. It didn't make me any happier with
>your note. But if it makes you feel better, here's one back. :-)

Thanks - much more pleasant than other gestures some people have been
sending my way.

Mark J Strawcutter
Indiana PA
'97 Coleman Key West

mrw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/13/00
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In article <srvlqv2...@corp.supernews.com>,


I agree with Beth on this one Mark. The ascerbic tone of your comments
often solicits a negative response to your posts. "The secret of being
a bore is to tell everything." Oscar Wilde. Perhaps you should err on
the side of restraint once in a while.

I also had a Coleman with roof sag and still feel that they are
basically a good camper and would recommend them. It is unfortunate
that you have had such an unpleasant experience with yours, perhaps you
should trade it in on another brand so that you have something to write
positive comments about.

Respectfully

Don Crandall


2001 Coachmen Catalina Lite 249QB

KEN

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Sep 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/13/00
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Mark: you said you were on your 3rd or 4th roof. I still think there is
something much more wrong somewhere besides the roof. It has to be some
dimensional thing or flex / stress thing. Ken

Mark J Strawcutter

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>Mark: you said you were on your 3rd or 4th roof. I still think there is
>something much more wrong somewhere besides the roof. It has to be some
>dimensional thing or flex / stress thing. Ken

Wouldn't surprise me. Especially considering the unresolved frame problem
I have. Add to that the fact that there is no way to keep the tongue
weight down. Add to that the fact that the A/C brace has shifted to one
side to the point where it is almost ready to fall out of bracket.

Key West model and floorplan discontinued after 2 years. Probably didn't
sell well enough, but considering the Utah has a mirror floorplan one could
wonder if it wasn't something else.

Original (factory) roof #1 bowed out at sides, dealer initiated replacement.
A/C brace pop-riveted on. Used camper with this roof long enough to have
brace fall off.

Roof #2 had classic sag. Brace still rivited but didn't fall off. A/C mounted
over two openings (they claimed 14x14 opening weakened roof) which restricted
airflow and caused freeze-ups. Later added bolt-on/thru brace which helped
side-to-side sag but not front-to-back. Never did seal quite right on rear
corners - gasket sat up on aluminum corner pieces.

I never saw roof #3. New y2k style, dealer discovered some sort of defect
part way thru install and ordered another.

Roof #4 is also y2k. Rear seals better than #2 (just) but front has "overbite"
problem where it doesn't seal. Looks like the entire roof could stand to be
shifted rearward but dealer sez no way to do that. Looks like the only thing
keeping the brace from shifting more and falling out is the head of a single
screw holding the A/C poser cord - it's right up against the bracket.

KEN

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Sep 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/13/00
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You know if I was them I would take the unit back and have a bunch of
tech's measure every thing there is to measure. Would be of great value
both to design and manufacturing. Ken

Mark J Strawcutter

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>You know if I was them I would take the unit back and have a bunch of
>tech's measure every thing there is to measure. Would be of great value
>both to design and manufacturing.

Would be the second time it returned to it's place of birth for attention.

Mark J Strawcutter

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>Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
>immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
>anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
>topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag."

I can understand how you would find that annoying. Sort of the "when you have
a hammer everything looks like a nail" syndrome applied to newsgroup postings.
Doesn't matter if it's roof sag or greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread
lightweight travel trailers...

Jim and Linda King

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Sep 13, 2000, 9:07:13 AM9/13/00
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Putting on flameproof suit...

>I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best and am
>interested in peoples thoughts.

I think the Sea Pine has a great floor plan!

> I am looking at the 2001 model and from what I see,
>it looks pretty sturdy to me. I would be adding an A/C unit since I am in
>the South.

Apparently, Colemans with a 10' box have a lower rate of roof sag than those
with a 12' box. Adding AC increases the odds. But if you're buying new, you
do have the lifetime warranty behind you. And contrary to some opinions, not
ALL Colemans sag!

Linda King
99 Bayside (NO SAG)
93 Chevy Suburban

Mark J Strawcutter

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Sep 13, 2000, 10:16:09 AM9/13/00
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> And contrary to some opinions, not
>ALL Colemans sag!

No disagreement from me - I'm sure there are a couple out there somewhere :-)

Mark J Strawcutter

Brian Wood

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saw nothing to ward the use of the suit Linda....

Brian Wood

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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maybe perhaps it's the delaer rahter than the brand....then again you may
have a lemon. Reminds me of a Class A I saw last year in another town...had
big sign on fron that said he bought his lemon and had the dealers
name...was quite funny...

mrw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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Sad but true, there is nothing funny about a lemon when you have
shelled out hard earned cash and had nothing but dissapointment. I
feel as you that after all these unsuccessful attempts Mark should
probably give up the ghost and trade that thing in and start fresh.

If the dealer were smart and wanted to retain a customer that is what
he should do.

Don Crandall
2001 Coachmen Catalina Lite 249Q

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mrw...@my-deja.com

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In article <srvsf7...@corp.supernews.com>,
> Mark J Strawcutter
> Indiana PA
> '97 Coleman Key West
>

Is that Wonder, pumpernickel, or rye Mark?

LOL

Don Crandall
2001 Coachmen Catalina Lite 249QB (no roof sag version ;)

mrw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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In article <srvsf7...@corp.supernews.com>,
mjs...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
> >Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
> >immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
> >anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
> >topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag."
>
> I can understand how you would find that annoying. Sort of the "when
you have
> a hammer everything looks like a nail" syndrome applied to newsgroup
postings.
> Doesn't matter if it's roof sag or greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread
> lightweight travel trailers...
>
> Mark J Strawcutter
> Indiana PA
> '97 Coleman Key West
>

Is that Wonder, pumpernickel, or rye Mark?

LOL

Don Crandall
2001 Coachmen Catalina Lite 249QB (and so tasty too!)

mrw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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In article <srvsf7...@corp.supernews.com>,
mjs...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
> >Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
> >immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
> >anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
> >topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag."
>
> I can understand how you would find that annoying. Sort of the "when
you have
> a hammer everything looks like a nail" syndrome applied to newsgroup
postings.
> Doesn't matter if it's roof sag or greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread
> lightweight travel trailers...
>
> Mark J Strawcutter
> Indiana PA
> '97 Coleman Key West
>

Is that Wonder, pumpernickel, or rye Mark?

Ed Ferguson

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Hey Brian! Its at the Atlanta RV show! I was up there today (Thursday) and they
had brought it to the lot while I was inside. Cracked me up!

Ed

Laura

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Sep 14, 2000, 9:14:04 PM9/14/00
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How's come your message showed up 3 times?

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> In article <srvsf7...@corp.supernews.com>,
> mjs...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
> > >Most of the messages were generated from the same few folks who
> > >immediately respond to any Coleman topic with the same response --
> > >anyone says "Coleman," they say "roof sag." Doesn't matter what the
> > >topic is, the knee-jerk reaction is "roof sag."
> >
> > I can understand how you would find that annoying. Sort of the "when
> you have
> > a hammer everything looks like a nail" syndrome applied to newsgroup
> postings.
> > Doesn't matter if it's roof sag or greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread
> > lightweight travel trailers...
> >

> > Mark J Strawcutter
> > Indiana PA
> > '97 Coleman Key West
> >
>

Brian Wood

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Sep 15, 2000, 12:06:36 AM9/15/00
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well it was in Milledgeville when i saw it..was transporting some mental
patients down there and was on the way outof town headed back to
Augusta....glad to see the guy didn't back down and is making his statement
well known...

Brenda

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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In article <8nrj6d$18e$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
"D Colosi" <dco...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I have been doing my research on pop ups and narrowed down my choices
to
> Starcraft, Jayco and Coleman. I like the Coleman Sea Pine the best
and am

> interested in peoples thoughts. I have seen a lot of posts about the
roof
> sag on coleman campers and wondered if anyone who has a 1999 or newer
has
> run into this problem. I am looking at the 2001 model and from what I

see,
> it looks pretty sturdy to me. I would be adding an A/C unit since I
am in
> the South.
>
>


Hi there,

Sorry, I'm a bit late answering this (we were on holiday when you
posted). We have a 1999 Sea Pine and absolutely love it! No roof sag,
no problems whatsoever. I highly recommend it.

--
Brenda
Toronto, Canada
1999 Coleman Sea Pine

sapart

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Sep 18, 2000, 10:31:47 PM9/18/00
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Ed Ferguson <edf...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Hey Brian! Its at the Atlanta RV show! I was up there today (Thursday) and they
>had brought it to the lot while I was inside. Cracked me up!
>
>Ed

I saw it too Ed!! Parked over in the lot on the right. I was helping
with Aunt Susan's Petting Zoo in the back. Did you come by and see
our ostrich?
Gerald
99 Cheyenne

ERHooker

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Sep 19, 2000, 2:02:08 AM9/19/00
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>Subject: Re: Colman Sea Pine
>From: Brenda bdeso...@aol.com
>Date: 9/15/00 9:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8pt7qf$ma6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>

We have a 2000 Coleman SeaPine and like it very much. We just got back from a
one week trip with it. We have also used it on three weekend trips. No
problems at all. No roof sag either. (We have A/C, fridge and furnace.)

Eric
Ellicott City, MD
2000 Sea Pine
2000 Ford Explorer XLT

Brian Wood

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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sound like you got the same one we got..except we didn't get the furnace..we
did get the hot water heater with mixer faucet though....

jeffjh...@gmail.com

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Looking for info on operating our furnace on battery power?
Most Alberta campsites have a noise compliance after 11 and since we are camping in early May it still gets a little chilly at night?
We have a 2001 Coleman Seapine PU

NotMe

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Look into deep cyclr golfcsrt bstteries (sam's club? and a light weight
inverter. ~ $50 bucks at sam's or wal maret. < 80% of run load on your
heater fan moter.

If you post the run current/power of the heater I can give you a good guess.

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