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Howard Page

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Sep 1, 2003, 2:01:02 PM9/1/03
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My wife and I bought a 03 Rockwood 1940 ltd from a dealer about an hour away
from us,here is what the weekend was like.
1.The dealers service guys went through and prepped it up for us. I bought a
battery and box for about $60.00. watched the guy drill 4 holes in the plate
near the gas bottle ,slide a strap around the box and hook up 2 wires. This
took 15 mins. The dealer charged me $60.00 flat rate for this. What a
rip-off I thought. I just gave the guy $5500.

2. We towed it an hour up the road with no problem and learned how poor my
backing skills were. Finally we parked it.
3. Everything went smooth during the basic set-up.
4.I noticed that I parked 2 feet too far from the power source and had to
move the trailer .
5. I noticed that the grey water hose was smaller that the required 1-1/2
connector and will end up lugging dishwater by the bucketfull to the waste
station.
6.Turned the water faucet on and my sinks had a leak which I couldn't fix.
7. Tried to set up the carefree awning and add a room this was a real bitch.
with alot of swearing and I didn't think we would ever get it up. When we
did we noticed that on the sides that go up against the camper we had large
vertical flaps with velcro that didn't seem to attach to anything. We set it
up with the rollup window covers on the outside. The awning wasn't too bad
to set up except that the tension clips kept falling out of the tubes but
we managed. I also noticed that the snaps were very hard to snap and keep
snapped. It seemed like they were about a half inch above where they should
have been.
8.The skirting for the add-a room didn't match up with the snaps on the
camper
9. I wanted to check out the battery power and couldn't get it to work
finally realizing that I should check the fuse. The 20 amp fuse was blown
near the battery I replaced it and tried the battery several hrs later and
noticed that it ran the lights (built in 12v) the heater, it did not run any
of my 110 volt outlets as my radio didn't play until I plugged the ac line
back into the campgounds power. Don't know if they are supposed to?
10. Now for the crowning event. I had brought some reallynice steaks for the
wife and I to enjoy along with the nice bottle of champagne the dealer had
given us. Rockwood and coldsprings rv sales gives you a nice barbeque grill
that is called the RBQ sits on an outside railing and looks like a pretty
nice unit. We set it up on its stand and railing and went to hook up the gas
line. Guess What!
The hook up is on the right rear of the grill. The gas line doesn't even
make it to the left corner grill. This just about did it. Time for more
bitching and frustration. Somebody somewhere should have checked this out.
I don't know if my problems are unique or not but I spent Sunday at
Walmart,Home Depot a stove shop 2 closed camping parts stores all to no
avail. I am towing my ROCKWOOD 1940 LTD back to COLDSPRINGS RV IN WEARE,NH
at my earliest opportunity to hopefully get all the bugs out. Has anyone
else had these type of problems? The only saving grace was that the heater
worked great and the 2 burner in/out stove also worked fine. I had to buy a
Webber grill at $50.to cook my steaks. Not a happy camper. Howard
Page,Seabrook,NH


Gerry Pierce

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Sep 1, 2003, 4:07:06 PM9/1/03
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"Howard Page" <howar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> My wife and I bought a 03 Rockwood 1940 ltd from a dealer about an hour
away
> from us,here is what the weekend was like.
> 1.The dealers service guys went through and prepped it up for us. I bought
a
> battery and box for about $60.00. watched the guy drill 4 holes in the
plate
> near the gas bottle ,slide a strap around the box and hook up 2 wires.
This
> took 15 mins. The dealer charged me $60.00 flat rate for this. What a
> rip-off I thought. I just gave the guy $5500.
>

Yes it is a rip off, BUT, now you know better. Battery is worth about 30
bucks, so you paid about 30 bucks for holes.

2. We towed it an hour up the road with no problem and learned how poor my
> backing skills were. Finally we parked it.

You'll get better!

> 4.I noticed that I parked 2 feet too far from the power source and had to
> move the trailer .

You just learned a valuable lesson. I learned it early on and now connect
water and electric BEFORE setting up or unhooking from the truck.

> 5. I noticed that the grey water hose was smaller that the required 1-1/2
> connector and will end up lugging dishwater by the bucketfull to the waste
> station.

There should be an adapter somewhere in the camper. If not, get the dealer
to give you one. Mine was in the drawer under the sink.


> 6.Turned the water faucet on and my sinks had a leak which I couldn't fix.

They'll fix it. Get used to it, little things always go wrong, get a small
tool set and get handy...

> 7. Tried to set up the carefree awning and add a room this was a real
bitch.
> with alot of swearing and I didn't think we would ever get it up. When we
> did we noticed that on the sides that go up against the camper we had
large
> vertical flaps with velcro that didn't seem to attach to anything. We set
it
> up with the rollup window covers on the outside. The awning wasn't too bad
> to set up except that the tension clips kept falling out of the tubes but
> we managed. I also noticed that the snaps were very hard to snap and keep
> snapped. It seemed like they were about a half inch above where they
should
> have been.
> 8.The skirting for the add-a room didn't match up with the snaps on the
> camper

7/8: make the dealer demo it!!

> 9. I wanted to check out the battery power and couldn't get it to work
> finally realizing that I should check the fuse. The 20 amp fuse was blown
> near the battery I replaced it and tried the battery several hrs later and
> noticed that it ran the lights (built in 12v) the heater, it did not run
any
> of my 110 volt outlets as my radio didn't play until I plugged the ac line
> back into the campgounds power. Don't know if they are supposed to?

Nope!! battery only runs the dc items (heater fan, water pump, lights). The
CONVERTOR changes 110 to 12vdc and provides switching. An INVERTOR changes
12vdc to 100 vac, you camper does not have this.

> 10. Now for the crowning event. I had brought some reallynice steaks for
the
> wife and I to enjoy along with the nice bottle of champagne the dealer had
> given us. Rockwood and coldsprings rv sales gives you a nice barbeque
grill
> that is called the RBQ sits on an outside railing and looks like a pretty
> nice unit. We set it up on its stand and railing and went to hook up the
gas
> line. Guess What!
> The hook up is on the right rear of the grill. The gas line doesn't even
> make it to the left corner grill. This just about did it. Time for more
> bitching and frustration. Somebody somewhere should have checked this out.
> I don't know if my problems are unique or not but I spent Sunday at
> Walmart,Home Depot a stove shop 2 closed camping parts stores all to no
> avail. I am towing my ROCKWOOD 1940 LTD back to COLDSPRINGS RV IN
WEARE,NH
> at my earliest opportunity to hopefully get all the bugs out. Has anyone
> else had these type of problems? The only saving grace was that the heater
> worked great and the 2 burner in/out stove also worked fine. I had to buy
a
> Webber grill at $50.to cook my steaks. Not a happy camper.

OUCH!! See 7/8... make the dealer demo it!!

Howard
> Page,Seabrook,NH
>
>

Good Luck!!

--
Gerry & Robyn
99 Mesa
01 Sporttrac
Jacksonville, FL


Gene Dunn

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Sep 1, 2003, 6:26:12 PM9/1/03
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"Howard Page" <howar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> My wife and I bought a 03 Rockwood 1940 ltd from a dealer about an hour
away
> from us,here is what the weekend was like.

snipped #1-9 due to excellent advice provided by Gerry Pierce

> 10. Now for the crowning event. I had brought some reallynice steaks for
the
> wife and I to enjoy along with the nice bottle of champagne the dealer had
> given us. Rockwood and coldsprings rv sales gives you a nice barbeque
grill
> that is called the RBQ sits on an outside railing and looks like a pretty
> nice unit. We set it up on its stand and railing and went to hook up the
gas
> line. Guess What!
> The hook up is on the right rear of the grill. The gas line doesn't even
> make it to the left corner grill. This just about did it. Time for more
> bitching and frustration. Somebody somewhere should have checked this out.

Just a thought - I have a Shamrock hybrid (made by Forest River, as is
Rockwood). The short hose on the RVQ has a quick-disconnect coupling on it
which hooks up to a similar connector on the trailer...BUT...the connector
on the trailer is atached to a hose which you pull out from the trailer.
What were you trying to hook the RVQ up to? (it's not made to be used with
disposable propane cylinders!). Look on the side of your camper for a round
snap-open cover with a hose in it. Write back if you still have problems. Oh
yeah, don't get too mad...it's all under warranty and once it all gets
figured out, you'll not regret your purchase!!

Gene Dunn
'02 Shamrock 25BH
'02 Suburban

Howard Page

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Sep 1, 2003, 6:46:26 PM9/1/03
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Thanks for the advice Gene,...
We did check everything out and no there is no 1.5 inch adapter for the
gray water. and the in/out 2 burner stove sits against the same wall as the
outside mount for same and/or the rbq.. All the plastic door is on mine is a
way to pass out the same gas line that is used inside. I'm hoping that the
dealer will be able to remedy this, even if they just replace the current
hose with one 1-2 feet longer. Now I have another question for the group.
How long can I expect the 20 lb tank of propane to last using the heat and
cooking,boiling water for dishwashing?... I live in New Hampshire and
yesterday morning it was chilly I was glad the heater worked. If I can get
it in for repairs the wife and I would like to take another w/e trip up to
our White Mts. for foliage viewing. I expect that it will be running all day
and night to keep warm. Thanks Howard Page My next questions in about a
month will be about winterizing.,and how to keep field mice and groundhogs
and other pests from getting in and ruining the pop up.
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Leon in Texas

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Sep 1, 2003, 8:43:45 PM9/1/03
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"Howard Page" <howar...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<5%P4b.325683$o%2.150448@sccrnsc02>...

> Thanks for the advice Gene,...
> We did check everything out and no there is no 1.5 inch adapter for the> >
> > "Howard Page" <howar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:yPL4b.326376$uu5.66831@sccrnsc04...
> > > My wife and I bought a 03 Rockwood 1940 ltd from a dealer about an hou
> it in for repairs the wife and I would like to take another w/e trip up to
> our White Mts. for foliage viewing. I expect that it will be running all day
> and night to keep warm. Thanks Howard Page My next questions in about a
> month will be about winterizing.,and how to keep field mice and groundhogs
> and other pests from getting in and ruining the pop up.
r
Winterize.......
http://www.title-3.com/Winterize.htm
For cold weather camping, if you have electricity, use one or two
ceramic heaters and and electric blanket... save your propane.... hope
this helps

brewda...@hotmail.com

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Sep 2, 2003, 3:28:34 PM9/2/03
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We used our heater for some winter camping here in So. Cal. Got a
good 3 and a half weekends out of a bottle along with cooking duties.

We used to spend summers at Cold Springs when I was a kid. My mom
says it has changed alot. They didn't used to sell campers when we
were there. I hear the kids run the place now, if they take after
their parents you should have no trouble getting your problems taken
care of.

I remember a trip to the White Mountains with my grandparents and how
much fun we had and how pretty it was up there. Was saddened by the
loss of the "old man of the mountain".

I look forward to getting "home" again someday.

Backing will come to you. Takes lots of practice and patience. And a
good spotter helps too ;)

It gets easier to set up after you do it a few times. The first time
we set up our awning and screen room it was comical. But now it is
much easier.


On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:01:02 GMT, "Howard Page"
<howar...@comcast.net> wrote:

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jima

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Sep 4, 2003, 8:45:43 PM9/4/03
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Hey Gerry
Glad to see another Jacksonville resident is on this newsgroup, we are
over on the south west side of town. Looks like the person should have
checked everything, and I do mean everything out with the dealer before
taking possession.

Jim in Jacksonville
westlake

TAMMY

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Sep 6, 2003, 11:53:02 AM9/6/03
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brewda...@hotmail.com wrote in message news:<46r9lv4efgoik3bpu...@4ax.com>...

> We used our heater for some winter camping here in So. Cal. Got a
> good 3 and a half weekends out of a bottle along with cooking duties.
>
> We used to spend summers at Cold Springs when I was a kid. My mom
> says it has changed alot. They didn't used to sell campers when we
> were there. I hear the kids run the place now, if they take after
> their parents you should have no trouble getting your problems taken
> care of.
>
> I remember a trip to the White Mountains with my grandparents and how
> much fun we had and how pretty it was up there. Was saddened by the
> loss of the "old man of the mountain".
>
> I look forward to getting "home" again someday.
>
> Backing will come to you. Takes lots of practice and patience. And a
> good spotter helps too ;)
>
> It gets easier to set up after you do it a few times. The first time
> we set up our awning and screen room it was comical. But now it is
> much easier.
>
>
> It does get easier with time and practice. For the propane-it should
last a while, especially if your rig is plugged into electric. We had
a Skamper awhile back with similar set up, and if you will take
advantage of an electric skillet and coffee pot you will not use as
much propane, heat your water in the coffee pot while you eat. By the
time you are done the water is ready to go, and while you wash the
dishes have another pot going, and you will have hot water to rinse
with no propane. Great for hand baths if little ones are around. We
would keep water hot like that just for that reason. Also, make sure
everyone has good sleeping gear, we got sleeping bags rated for cold
weather, that way we basicly ran the heater before going to bed and
when we first got up. This way we could use a bottle of propane on
alot of weekends before refilling. Oh and one more thing, if you have
any portable space heaters they work excellent when plugged in, and in
summer use 2 little electric fans to circulate air into the bunkends
to sleep. Makes a big difference. I know they have little fans that
run on dc as well-they are just a little expensive, but maybe worth it
for you.
Tammy
00' Niagara
F-150

Gerry Pierce

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Sep 6, 2003, 12:56:26 PM9/6/03
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Hi Jim! We live on the Naval Station in Mayport...... right next to Hanna
Park. Who do you use for service. i have been getting parts from Rivers RV/
BUS on the west side.


Howard, as far as propane usage, you have recieved good advice from many
folks. As for the hot water, I leave the h2o heater on pilot all the time.
It provides more water than we can use for dishwashing and hands... the
furnace is your big hog. If you are camping with electric, get a portable
electric heater or a heat strip for your A/C, then augment with the furnace
set down low (55-60) just in case it gets to cold.
The fridge uses minimal gas.

Without heat, I camped for about 45 days one year on one tank. Then I
emptied a full tank in oine weekend running the furnace by itself with
outside temps in the 50's day/ low 30's night.


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Howard Page

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Sep 10, 2003, 6:08:38 PM9/10/03
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As promised I told you all that I would send a follow-up message after
the servicing of my problems with the Rockwood 1940 LTD that I purchased
at Cold Springs RV in Weare,NH..
I arrived a little late for my appointment but was warmly received and
the service manager brought a capable young lady named Tracey to the task.
She was able to change the regulator on the RBQ grill so that it would work
with the existing hose that wouldn't reach before. The sink drain was
leaking and Tracey repaired that in a way that looks like it will last
forever. The skirting that wouldn't fit was an error on my part and I was
trying to snap it in the wrong snaps. Buddy in the parts department was most
helpful as were the cashiers who advised me on what I did and didn't need to
buy.
In closing I AM VERY SATISFIED WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND
ATTENTION THAT I RECEIVED AT COLD SPRINGS RV IN WEARE NEW HAMPSHIRE. I
WOULD NOT HESITATE TO RECOMMEND THEM TO FRIENDS AND OTHER PROSPECTIVE
CUSTOMERS. Howard Page ,Seabrook, NH

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