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Rtavi

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May 29, 2005, 12:41:22 PM5/29/05
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Just looked at some new 5th wheels. While shopping was faced with what's
probably the most horrible invention for RVs in years. Outside stereo with
huge speakers. A huge entertainment system so idiots can "share " their
music with the whole campground is the worst idea I have seen in years. I
go camping to get away from noise. Secondhand music that's already blasted
out by every moron that has a huge amp in his car will now also pervade
campgrounds.


Steve Wolf

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May 29, 2005, 12:50:58 PM5/29/05
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The perfect solution to neighbors with loud music can be found at

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000G4QC/qid=1117385345/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/002-9494938-7302420?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

I've found that I can make even Pink Floyd sound awful and agreements to
turn down the systems are quickly negotiated.

Steve
www.wolfswords.com under the motorhome link

JanO...@aol.com

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May 29, 2005, 1:03:48 PM5/29/05
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What??? You don't want to hear CRA....er....I mean
RAP blasting into the night?

Amen!

Here's a thought. If you are like me and agrivated by brainless nitwits
that think it's cool to share nasty ass THUMP...THUMP...THUMP...Crap in
town traffic.
Or even in your own neighbor hood. Disturbing the hell out of our peace
and quiet. Then how about we do this. We all get one of these 120
decibal delights:

http://tinyurl.com/azo6u

Then when we hear the crud we just blast out our own version of Crudola
back with an answer. Then if they complain or ask why....just say that
you are a lover of boat horn music!

VBG

Jan Eric Orme
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you
have never been hurt and dance like no one is watching."

Thomas Marik

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May 29, 2005, 1:34:37 PM5/29/05
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A good home entertainment system for a fulltimer, does not lessen my
responsiblity to my neighbors. The volume is resonable all the time and turned
way down during quite hours.

Same with car sytems.

"Sound systems don't disturb; morons do."

Tom M

tobe

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May 29, 2005, 2:51:40 PM5/29/05
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> A good home entertainment system for a fulltimer, does not lessen my
> responsiblity to my neighbors. The volume is resonable all the time and
> turned way down during quite hours.

There is no 'reasonable' volume for an outdoors entertainment system. I do
not want to listen to your music/sports/talk shows any more than you want to
listen to mine. Campgrounds are somewhat crowded places. I do not mind the
natural (reasonable) sounds of you and your family (including normal pet
sounds), but I also want to enjoy the sounds of nature. If you want to
listen to music outdoors at a campground, use headphones. Try an Ipod or
other similar device. Listen to whatever you want, but do not subject me to
it, loud or not.

> "Sound systems don't disturb; morons do."

Yep!


lfm

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May 29, 2005, 3:56:00 PM5/29/05
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"tobe" <ybot...@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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absolutely! think about it - you are playing your music at a reasonable
level in your campsite.
The person next to you has to listen to it - because if you can hear it,
chances are someone 20 feet away can also hear it. Then think about the
campers on the other side of that person - they are also listening to
something at a reasonable level.

Person in the middle gets to listen to two different musical genres
simultaneiously. Lucky them!

Outdoor radios/TVs/ etc have no place in a CG or RV Park.

Laura
>

Jim Redelfs

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May 29, 2005, 7:01:48 PM5/29/05
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In article <119jsno...@corp.supernews.com>, "Steve Wolf" <ne...@w8iz.com>
wrote:

> The perfect solution to neighbors with loud music can be found at

> [deleted: link to yodeling CD to buy]

ARGH! That's outstanding! I may have to buy it and just keep it on the
camper for emergency use! Hehehehehe! :)

> I've found that I can make even Pink Floyd sound awful and agreements to
> turn down the systems are quickly negotiated.

Not bad. "If you don't turn down your music, you can't have any peace and
quiet! How can you have any peace and quiet if you don't turn down your
music?" (With apologies to Roger Waters)

Another good suggestion would be "Revolution 9" from The Beatles white album
(number 9...number 9...number 9...ad nauseum).

Outdoor loudspeakers on a camper. I must agree: A HORRIBLE invention.

:(
JR

Jim Redelfs

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May 29, 2005, 7:04:49 PM5/29/05
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In article <k7pme.85$kf2...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"lfm" <lf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Outdoor radios/TVs/ etc have no place in a CG or RV Park.

Agreed.

In any case, it's a moot point for me: I just *LOVE* my iPod. It has ALL my
music onboard with space left over for all my photos - and disturbs NO ONE.

:)
JR

Glenn S.

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May 29, 2005, 8:18:26 PM5/29/05
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I'd love to have one of those air horns for the idiots on the road with
their cell phones - the ones that love to concentrate on the phone and not
the car in the lane next to them !

--
G.D.Smith
Harpers Ferry, WV

FOR SALE: 2003 Sweetwater 22' Pontoon Boat
http://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/gs_pontoon01.html

FOR SALE: 1999 Fleetwood Mallard 37' Travel Trailer
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Lee K

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May 29, 2005, 8:43:08 PM5/29/05
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"Rtavi" <rt...@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
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There's a way to discourage the sound abuse by use of directional speakers,
i.e., put your own sound only in a limited area, focused on a specific small
area (direct that yodeler at the abuser). Here's a supplier:
http://www.holosonics.com/

"only those within the sound beam can hear the audio..."


lfm

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May 29, 2005, 10:35:37 PM5/29/05
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I have only twice seen the outdoor TVs, and they were not loud, but if they
ever become a problem...

http://www.tvbgone.com/home.php

I wonder if it would work for stereos too?

Laura


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Jud Hardcastle

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May 30, 2005, 6:44:35 PM5/30/05
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In article <ZZume.2230$s64....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, lfm56
@hotmail.com says...

> I have only twice seen the outdoor TVs, and they were not loud, but if they
> ever become a problem...
>
> http://www.tvbgone.com/home.php
>
> I wonder if it would work for stereos too?
>
Did you want an answer for that? :-) I'm afraid not. Most IR codes are
documented--that's how pre-programmed replacement remote controls work.
That gadget's probably just sending the "off" sequences for all known
TV's hopefully starting with the most popular "public" models (otherwise
it would take awhile to "find" the correct off code as anyone telling a
new remote to "search" for a working code can testify--each brand may
have several "off" codes in use by different models). Stereo receivers
would have totally different codes. I suppose they could make one with
a "tv" and "receiver" button if there was enough demand.

In this case by the time you got close enough for an IR transmitter to
control their set I think it's going to be just a bit obvious WHO turned
it off!!!!
--
Jud
Dallas TX USA

AustinMN

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May 31, 2005, 8:45:24 AM5/31/05
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Jud Hardcastle wrote:
> In article <ZZume.2230$s64....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, lfm56
> @hotmail.com says...
> > I have only twice seen the outdoor TVs, and they were not loud, but if they
> > ever become a problem...
> >
> > http://www.tvbgone.com/home.php

<snip>

> In this case by the time you got close enough for an IR transmitter to
> control their set I think it's going to be just a bit obvious WHO turned
> it off!!!!

It would be nice if the manufacturers made a more powerful version -
which could be done, all it would take is a few more LED's - so that
you could turn off TV's from 100 feet.

Austin

mac davis

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May 31, 2005, 12:04:48 PM5/31/05
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We have surround sound in our Travel trailer... (inside)

My wife likes to have music in the trailer, I don't.. I can't hear it outside
the trailer, so it's not a big deal.. I spend most of my time outside anyway..

As others have said, I camp (ok, RV now) to get away from "normal" life... I can
listen to the stereo at home..

OTOH, I've seen a huge motor home with outside stereo playing at very low volume
while a group of tent campers at the other end were seeing whose boom box could
make the most noise..

I find it really strange that in most other outdoor activities, (fishing,
hunting, hiking, etc.), the same folks that would be rude, loud, or steal your
hub caps at home would share their last piece of fishing bait with you when away
from home... but this doesn't seem to apply to campers and RV'ers... rude at
home means rude at a park... YMMV


mac

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Mark Jones

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May 31, 2005, 7:31:33 PM5/31/05
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"mac davis" <mac....@splinters.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> We have surround sound in our Travel trailer... (inside)
>
> My wife likes to have music in the trailer, I don't.. I can't hear it
outside
> the trailer, so it's not a big deal.. I spend most of my time outside
anyway..
>
> As others have said, I camp (ok, RV now) to get away from "normal" life...
I can
> listen to the stereo at home..
I take a 32 inch LCD HDTV with me for use in my pop-up.

It travels behind the drivers seat in my pickup, with a sleeping bag
around it to keep it from moving. I also take a progressive scan
DVD player and an assortment of DVD movies to choose from.

Makes traveling a lot more fun when it gets dark and it is time to
go inside. This would also make getting stuck inside during a
rain shower much easier to take.


mac davis

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Jun 1, 2005, 11:30:30 AM6/1/05
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damn... how much power does it take to run all that, Mark?

Mark Jones

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Jun 1, 2005, 12:45:52 PM6/1/05
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"mac davis" <mac....@splinters.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 May 2005 23:31:33 GMT, "Mark Jones" <noe...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> >I take a 32 inch LCD HDTV with me for use in my pop-up.
> >
> >It travels behind the drivers seat in my pickup, with a sleeping bag
> >around it to keep it from moving. I also take a progressive scan
> >DVD player and an assortment of DVD movies to choose from.
> >
> >Makes traveling a lot more fun when it gets dark and it is time to
> >go inside. This would also make getting stuck inside during a
> >rain shower much easier to take.
> >
>
> damn... how much power does it take to run all that, Mark?
Not too much. I usually have 30 amp service, so it isn't an issue.


mac davis

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Jun 2, 2005, 11:16:57 AM6/2/05
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oh, ok... most popup folks don't hit full hookups very often... I was picturing
a honda generator to power the entertainment center..
now that we have our TT, we haven't "dry camped" since we got it in Nov. 03..
lol

Mark Jones

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Jun 2, 2005, 12:43:00 PM6/2/05
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"mac davis" <mac....@splinters.comcast.net> wrote in message
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I do have a Honda EU2000i generator if I was at a site without
30 amp service. I also have 2 deep cycle batteries and a 750W
inverter.

I use my pop-up just like I would if I had a travel trailer. It has a
14 foot long box and a slide-out dining area so it is fairly big.
I have a 3.5 cu ft fridge and a 3 burner stove with an oven.
I also have a built-in microwave and a built-in AM/FM CD stereo.


Nate

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:35:37 PM6/2/05
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"Rtavi" <rt...@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
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I have those exteranl mounted loud speakers on my 5er Toy Hauler. When I
play them I play them so I can enjoy music right at my front door step. I
rarely play them any louder than I need to be able to hear them right there
by my door step.

But I can certianly see how you think this invention is evil. I'll probably
sell my TH this weekend to get the evil out of my yard.

Thanks for pointing this out to me before I wreck some retirees life in a
state park.

Nate


Chris Cowles

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Jun 2, 2005, 10:25:33 PM6/2/05
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Sell it? Better to burn it.

"Nate" <nsaptaem...@nnvobseplalm.net> wrote in message
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SteveB

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Jun 3, 2005, 10:34:22 AM6/3/05
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Don't mention it. And while yer at it, take those whining screaming kids
with you. And that yappy dog. And that shrill voiced shrew you call a
wife. And those noisy machines you ride through camp. And that thumper
music box you have in your truck.

OH, my! I just realized. If you dump the toy hauler, the whole bunch will
stay at home in the burbs and bother the neighbors.

Never mind!

Steve


Nate

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Jun 3, 2005, 11:05:39 AM6/3/05
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"SteveB" <desertNOSP...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No kids. Dogs don't bark unless there is a chukar partridge in the
vacinity. Only time I ride my ATVs inside of camp is when I am boondocking
with other ATVers...never inside a park. Truck has an AM radio with no
speakers hooked up.

Sorry...but it's just those damned speakers on the outside of the TH and my
wife's voice that could potentially bother other campers so I guess I'll
have to ditch them.

Bummer...cuz I was really starting to enjoy the wife's company. And the bed
in the TH was just starting to get broke in right.

Nate


mac davis

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Jun 3, 2005, 11:44:47 AM6/3/05
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 01:35:37 GMT, "Nate" <nsaptaem...@nnvobseplalm.net>
wrote:

>I have those exteranl mounted loud speakers on my 5er Toy Hauler. When I
>play them I play them so I can enjoy music right at my front door step. I
>rarely play them any louder than I need to be able to hear them right there
>by my door step.
>
>But I can certianly see how you think this invention is evil. I'll probably
>sell my TH this weekend to get the evil out of my yard.
>
>Thanks for pointing this out to me before I wreck some retirees life in a
>state park.
>
>Nate
>

Nate... first of all, if more folks did what you do ( "I rarely play them any
louder than I need to be able to hear them right there by my door step".), it
wouldn't be a problem...

Also, for a TH, it might be QUIETER with external speakers.... we've noticed
that toy haulers, when empty and used as a "patio", tend to focus and aim the
noise toward where ever the back is pointing... a really strange effect when
you're not in line of the door and can't understand why the guy in the next site
is bitching about the noise.. *lol*

Lon VanOstran

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:13:34 PM6/3/05
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Nate wrote:

> Sorry...but it's just those damned speakers on the outside of the TH and my
> wife's voice that could potentially bother other campers so I guess I'll
> have to ditch them.

Hah! Now yer tryin to tell us you don't snore.

Lon

Pumper Hinkle

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Jun 3, 2005, 8:32:13 PM6/3/05
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I wonder if it's possible to get an extremely directional speaker and beam
some soothing classical music at them. I've heard that playing classical
music will run off the riff-raff hanging around outside stores.


mac davis

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Jun 4, 2005, 1:02:51 AM6/4/05
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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 00:32:13 GMT, "Pumper Hinkle" <pumper...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>I wonder if it's possible to get an extremely directional speaker and beam
>some soothing classical music at them. I've heard that playing classical
>music will run off the riff-raff hanging around outside stores.
>

might work...
Maybe I'll try some patsy cline or hank williams on my (c)rap blasting
neighbor..

Malobenski

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Jun 4, 2005, 6:49:18 PM6/4/05
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>In article <119jsno...@corp.supernews.com>, "Steve Wolf"
> ><ne...@w8iz.com>
>wrote:

>> The perfect solution to neighbors with loud music can be found at
> >[deleted: link to yodeling CD to buy]

>ARGH! That's outstanding! I may have to buy it and just keep it on the
>camper for emergency use! Hehehehehe

Another good alternative:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-2367729-8577703
or better yet get a set of pipes for your own amusment.
Actually when we were down at Huntington Beach in SC there was a lone piper
there that would practice at dusk. He would draw a crowd every evening.


AustinMN

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Jun 4, 2005, 9:46:13 PM6/4/05
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I once heard that if you want to keep the sites around yours empty, just
place a tuba on the picnic table.

Austin
--
Coleman Bayside behind a Chevy Astro.
No, not without a Reese Mini-350 WDH!
There are no X characters in my address

RAM^3

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Jun 4, 2005, 10:53:51 PM6/4/05
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"AustinMN" <Aust...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Malobenski wrote:
>>> ><ne...@w8iz.com>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>> The perfect solution to neighbors with loud music can be found at
>>> >[deleted: link to yodeling CD to buy]
>>
>>>ARGH! That's outstanding! I may have to buy it and just keep it on the
>>>camper for emergency use! Hehehehehe
>>
>> Another good alternative:
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-2367729-8577703
>> or better yet get a set of pipes for your own amusment.
>> Actually when we were down at Huntington Beach in SC there was a lone
>> piper there that would practice at dusk. He would draw a crowd every
>> evening.
>
> I once heard that if you want to keep the sites around yours empty, just
> place a tuba on the picnic table.
>
> Austin

A set of bagpipes works better and packs better, too!


Tony Wesley

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Jun 5, 2005, 1:41:00 PM6/5/05
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Once when tent camping, my (then) wife was putting up with my snoring.
She woke me when she heard the people in the next tent complaining
about it.

mac davis

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Jun 6, 2005, 11:45:31 AM6/6/05
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we went on a trip with a friend who REALLY snores... we were on one side of his
trailer and a family in a 5th wheel was on the other side..
When we woke up the next morning, the 5'er was moved down 3 spaces.. lol

Newt

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Jun 7, 2005, 1:27:28 AM6/7/05
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Now thats LOUD!

Bruce

mac davis

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Jun 7, 2005, 11:15:45 AM6/7/05
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On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:27:28 -0700, Newt <Ne...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>Once when tent camping, my (then) wife was putting up with my snoring.
>>>She woke me when she heard the people in the next tent complaining
>>>about it.
>>
>>
>> we went on a trip with a friend who REALLY snores... we were on one side of his
>> trailer and a family in a 5th wheel was on the other side..
>> When we woke up the next morning, the 5'er was moved down 3 spaces.. lol

>> mac

>Now thats LOUD!
>
> Bruce

yeah, we gave him a bad time all weekend... told him the people didn't move
their trailer, he BLEW it 3 spaces over..

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