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Andrea W

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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We are new to this group (well, not really, I have been reading messages for
about 6 months now!) and will be purchasing our first pop-up in the next 3
or 4 months. We have a quote for a 1999 Starcraft Galaxy and wanted some
feedback as to whether or not the price sounded right. Here is the email
that I received from the dealership:

The price includes roof AC, 3-way refrig., and awning. Without knowing what
type of tow vehicle you have, the average cost of a hitch and wiring package
is $175.00. The break-down on cost is as folllows:

1999 Galaxy $6,995.00
Hitch & Wiring 175.00
Sales tax 465.85
license 57.40
document fee 50.00

Total $7,743.25
10% down -773.25

amount to finance $6,970.00

$115.21 for 96 months 12.50% A.P.R.

We live in San Antonio and we have all 3 major manufacturers (Coleman,
Jayco, and Starcraft) w/in a 15 or 20 minute drive. We have looked at all 3
extensively and decided on Starcraft Galaxy or the Venture 2410 (leaning
towards the Galaxy). Now it's just a matter of getting a good price w/out
feeling suckered.

Anyhow...your feedback and comments are most appreciated!

Kit and Andrea Williams


sout...@bellsouth.net

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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Andrea,
Since you live in Texas, you really should get in touch with Pat @ Sunbelt RV,
also in Texas.
His address is: "patrick" <patp...@prodigy.net>
He always gives quotes for people and very good informative posts. He won't B.S.
you like a lot of dealers will. Not a sales pitch since I live in Atlanta, Ga.
But if I were in that area, I sure would make the drive to see him.

Happy Camping,
Rodney
98 Coleman Natchez

twarfiel

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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> Coleman: ... They use fiberboard for the bunk ends. No matter
> what they are trying to sell you, once moisture gets at it, it
> will crumble.

I just can't let this go by...

You are right about "fiberboard". BUT COLEMAN USES STRUCTURWOOD,
which is made by a process and with a glue that does not allow
it to absorb moisture and crumble like "fiberboard" or
delaminate like plywood.

I wouldn't be surprised if I could leave a piece of strucurwood
out in the western Washington weather for years and it wouldn't
have a problem. You can't say that for plywood, not even the
stuff rated for outdoor use (CDX).

I'll take Coleman's one piece structurwood any day over plywood
bunks with a seam down the middle. And to make matters worse,
some brands with the plywood and seam need to have a second
support that sits at the seam. I wonder why.

-Tom Warfield
> '98 Coleman Redwood (dreaming of a Mesa)

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patrick

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Tom is right !!
Plywood will delaminate and it will warp. I see this all the time on our
used lot, in older non-Coleman products.(80's -mid 90's). Coleman uses
Weyerhaeuser (Spelled correctly I might add) Structurwood on the bunk ends
and floors, and it is covered by the life time warranty.
Check with the others brands, I think you will find that the warranty is a
little different.

Pat at Sunbelt RV>

Ken

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Tom: Don't forget that those bunk ends also have "Lifetime" warrantee.
You a good guy to have in the group.

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"Only The Good Parts Of Time Fly By" ken"

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RBNOUCH

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Hi Kit and Andrea Williams

All I can say is you picked the right brand of trailer. I have looked at many
and found that Starcraft is the way to go. Please note that I have a 2000
model on order. Starcrafts' Spacestar with the slide out dinette. We cannot
wait for summer!!!!! The Price for the Galaxy looks good. The Space Star that
we are buying without a Awning or Screen Room was $8700.00
It came with:
Heater
Refrigerator
Outside Shower
Shower / Toliet
Water Heater

We picked the Space Star due to the bathroom option and storage Trunk. We do
not have kids right now, but, we are planning on the future.

Note: that you are a lot better getting it without the awning. The awning only
covers a small area. By a 20 x 30 ft tarpaulin and cover the whole thing.

Like I said I have seen others here are my problems with them.

Coleman: Too Expensive. Plus it kind of looked "Cheezy" It did not see very
well built. They use fiberboard for the bunk ends. No matter what they are


trying to sell you, once moisture gets at it, it will crumble.

Jayco: Has a one piece tent assembly: If anything happens to any part of it,
a repair might be costly. The Starcraft has a 5 Piece tent assembly. Also,
Jayco holds the bunk ends together with VELCRO. Do you trust velcro to hold
your kids in place on the bunks? Starcraft uses bungy cords.

Viking, Palimino, Coachmen, none even compared to Starcraft.

Why Starcraft over Venture: The roof on the Starcraft has no center seam. You
are better off. Stay away from as many seams as possible on the roof to
prevent leaks.

Note that 96 months is a long time for a loan. I would suggest shopping around
for a better interest rate and a shorter term That will save you money.
Remember you are only buying time not more.

This is just one couples advice, however, when I buy something I really do my
homework.

Well good luck and happy camping!!!

LtlHippo

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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<<Coachmen>>

We started looking around last year at the various dealers and every Coachman
they had on the lot had some signs of water damage inside the pop up. On no
other brands did we see this.

Barb-Animal lover, nature lover, camper, and mom.

Mark J Strawcutter

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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>Note: that you are a lot better getting it without the awning. The awning only
>covers a small area. By a 20 x 30 ft tarpaulin and cover the whole thing.

A big, unattractive blue one would be best :-)

Carefree and A&E (and ?) all make awnings suitable for use on pop-ups that
are much better than the manufacturer-supplied "bag awnings".

> They use fiberboard for the bunk ends. No matter what they are
>trying to sell you, once moisture gets at it, it will crumble.

And then they would have to be replaced under warranty.

> Also,
>Jayco holds the bunk ends together with VELCRO. Do you trust velcro to hold
>your kids in place on the bunks? Starcraft uses bungy cords.

Haven't you heard - babies fall out of campers that use bungy cords. Only
Palamino's permanently attached tenting can prevent such a tragedy.

>Why Starcraft over Venture: The roof on the Starcraft has no center seam. You
>are better off. Stay away from as many seams as possible on the roof to
>prevent leaks.

You mean something with _no_ seams would be the best?

Mark J Strawcutter
Indiana PA
'97 Coleman Key West

Gerry Pierce

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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In article <I1_l4.327$Bq1....@news.sgi.net>,

mjs...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
>
> A big, unattractive blue one would be best :-)
Especially right after a heavy thunderstorm and it is full of water, it
can be used as a spare water tank or outdoor shower! <g>

>
>
Also,
> >Jayco holds the bunk ends together with VELCRO. Do you trust velcro
to hold
> >your kids in place on the bunks? Starcraft uses bungy cords.
>
> Haven't you heard - babies fall out of campers that use bungy cords.
Only
> Palamino's permanently attached tenting can prevent such a tragedy.

Hey, bungy jumping can be fun, why should we age discriminate? <g>


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99 Mesa
96 Ford Conversion Van
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Andrea W

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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Thanks for info! We do have children right now (one toddler and one due in
May) which is our biggest reason for wanting a pop-up right now. We will be
going to a large family get together in Northern Arizona in late July or
early August...can you say "monsoon season?!" The last thing I want to do is
worry about a leaky tent (roof, sides, floor) or trying to find one that's
going to be big enough to fit all of our stuff into! So finding a pop-up is
a great alternative for us.

> All I can say is you picked the right brand of trailer. I have looked at
many
> and found that Starcraft is the way to go. Please note that I have a
2000
> model on order. Starcrafts' Spacestar with the slide out dinette. We
cannot
> wait for summer!!!!! The Price for the Galaxy looks good. The Space Star
that
> we are buying without a Awning or Screen Room was $8700.00
> It came with:
> Heater
> Refrigerator
> Outside Shower
> Shower / Toliet
> Water Heater
>
> We picked the Space Star due to the bathroom option and storage Trunk.
>We do not have kids right now, but, we are planning on the future.

The bathroom was a very optional thing. Most of the campgrounds here in
Texas has flushing toilets (or so I've read) and showers, and we wouldn't
camp at one unless it had both. However, I resever the right to change my
mind in the future :).

> Note: that you are a lot better getting it without the awning. The awning
only
> covers a small area. By a 20 x 30 ft tarpaulin and cover the whole thing.

I had wondered about the area and had planned on replacing the awning since
I've read about the hassles many have had w/ the factory provided awning.

> Coleman: Too Expensive. Plus it kind of looked "Cheezy" It did not see
>very well built.

You know, I really, really wanted to like the Coleman's since sooo many
people on this newsgroup had them and loved them. We got the brochure and
first couldn't find a plan that I like and then didn't like the interior. DH
had the same feeling. In all fairness, we looked at the Coleman inside and
out and still came to the same conclusion. Different strokes for different
folks, I suppose.

> Jayco: Has a one piece tent assembly: If anything happens to any part of
it,
> a repair might be costly. The Starcraft has a 5 Piece tent assembly.

Also,
> Jayco holds the bunk ends together with VELCRO. Do you trust velcro to
>hold your kids in place on the bunks? Starcraft uses bungy cords.

This was also a non-issue w/ us as we sleep w/ our kids, usually right smack
dab in between Dh and I. If our children were to sleep elsewhere, we would
probably line the bunk w/ pillows or cushions to insure that no accidental
entrapment happened. :)


> Note that 96 months is a long time for a loan. I would suggest shopping
>around for a better interest rate and a shorter term That will save you
money.
> Remember you are only buying time not more.

I agree, it is a long time. However, we have asked about financing at each
retailer, but only so we could compare it w/ our credit union.

> This is just one couples advice, however, when I buy something I really do
>my homework.

Thanks again for your input. I have been following this newsgroup since last
Fall and have been doing as much research as I can. Since the pop-up is
something that we will be using often w/ our children, I want to make sure
it's somethign that we are going to enjoy using and that we will get lots of
use out of.

Come on spring....get here quick!! :)

Andrea


FMICHALUK

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Feb 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/6/00
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WOW!
IT MUST BE GREAT LIVING IN THE USA
I AM THINKING OF BUYING A NEW
2000 STARCRAFT STARFLYER AND
OUR PRICE HERE IN CANADA IS $12000.
I HAVE A 93 STARCRAFT NOW AND IT
IS THE BEST TRAILER I HAVE EVER
OWNED.


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