Problems with Coleman Swing Galley
David
I just took delivery on our new Coleman Sante Fe. As I was demonstarting
the swing-down galley for a friend, the vertical metal strip on the
bottom galley cabinet that is supposed to telescope in and out (as well
as hinge), didn't . While lifting the galley up, the metal bent, putting
a permanent kink in it.
I called my dealer and he immediately offered to replace the metal
strip. He said he has seen this happen before.
Has anyone else had this problem, and is there any way to make sure it
doesn't happen again. I'd hate to think this is going to be a reoccuring
problem.
Also, can anyone see why this metal piece is necessary at all? It seems
to serve no pupose that I can see (the swinging is done by the two chain
drives on either side of the top cabinet). In my mind, it is a poorly
engineered piece, too weak to do the job, and the job it's doing is
unnecessary.
Any comments????
DCM
CKayakR
>While lifting the galley up, the metal bent, putting
>a permanent kink in it.
>Any comments????
I also have the same galley on a Santa Fe. Fortunately I have not had the
problem you mention, but will now keep an eye out for it. I think you're right
about function; it looks to be purely cosmetic.
Doug
Mark E. Monninger
In article <354464...@conknet.com>, David <dcma...@conknet.com> wrote:
>...
> Also, can anyone see why this metal piece is necessary at all? It seems
>to serve no pupose that I can see (the swinging is done by the two chain
>drives on either side of the top cabinet). In my mind, it is a poorly
>engineered piece, too weak to do the job, and the job it's doing is
>unnecessary.
I think it's there to cover up the slot in the cabinet that the hoses
run in when you swing it down into the stored position. Without it there'd
be a big (ugly?) gap in the cabinet when the galley is in the up position.
Mark
MNellis382
The older ones have a peace of sheetmetal with Velcro on the back that you
stick over the slot to hide it . I never bother with it, I just throw it in a
drawer.
>I think it's there to cover up the slot in the cabinet that the hoses<BR>
>run in when you swing it down into the stored position. Without it
>be a big (ugly?) gap in the cabinet when the galley is in the up
David
Doug -
One thing to watch for is . . . . don't ever stop lowering or raising
the galley at the midpoint. Always make it one, fluid motion -- going
all the way up or all the way down.
My wife stopped halfway down, then tried to lift it back up, and I think
this might have instigated the problem.
David
Thank you both. This is obviously the reason for this piece. Mystery
solved. maybe I'll just take it off, and velcro something there to hide
the hole.
DCM
Cheryl L Richards
The same thing happened to me with my 97 Sun Valley. This was our first
trip out and when we were setting it up the strip bent. Our dealer is
replacing the part now. (I hope its covered under warranty)
We removed the strip at camp but the hoses are exposed. You really need
something to cover-up the hole.
David
Cheryl -
If your trailer is still under warranty, this should be covered.
The piece is held in with only 4 screws. My dealer just gave me the
part, and I told him I'd replace it myself. He also said that this piece
used to be a little shorter, and since they lengthened it, he has seen
this problem more frequently.
If it ever happens again, i think I'll just make a little cover panel
and velcro it in place (like the older style gallies).
DCM
Jack Anderson
I illustrate a prototype fix for this at:
http://www.crosslink.net/~jra/vbhowto.html
I have not tested it yet - we planned to go out last weekend but had to cancel the
trip.
Jack
MLJRose wrote:
> >Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
> >tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone has a
> >fix to this, please let me know.
>
> We have also had a problem with the sink draining in our Coleman SunRidge. I
> haven't found a solution but there was a post a couple of weeks ago that
> described a T fitting that you could make and add between the camper and the
> drain hose. The purpose is to add an air vent at the hose. I will be trying it
> in a couple of weeks and will let you know if it works.
> Jeff
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Gizmo
Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone has a
fix to this, please let me know.
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jans...@iexpress.net
After much frustration, we found that if you check the drain hose very close
to the opening on the outside, it has slipped down. From the underside of
the trailer by pushing it back up slightly, you eliminate a low spot in the
connection and the sink drains properly.
In article <35494415...@crosslink.net>#1/1,
Jack Anderson <j...@crosslink.net> wrote:
>
> I illustrate a prototype fix for this at:
>
> http://www.crosslink.net/~jra/vbhowto.html
>
> I have not tested it yet - we planned to go out last weekend but had to
cancel the
> trip.
>
> Jack
>
> MLJRose wrote:
>
> > >Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
> > >tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone
has a
> > >fix to this, please let me know.
> >
> > We have also had a problem with the sink draining in our Coleman
SunRidge. I
> > haven't found a solution but there was a post a couple of weeks ago that
> > described a T fitting that you could make and add between the camper and
the
> > drain hose. The purpose is to add an air vent at the hose. I will be
trying it
> > in a couple of weeks and will let you know if it works.
> > Jeff
>
> --
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> http://www.crosslink.net/~jra/gvsp.html
>
> The Folding Trailer/PopUp Camper Webring:
> http://www.crosslink.net/~jra/popring.html
>
>
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Jack Anderson
I have tried the plunger method, and it does work. Once the flow gets started, the
sink drains very quickly.
Justme5598 wrote:
> I had talked to someone at a State Park that, after trying several things to
> drain that sink, they bought a small plunger and plunged once or twice every
> time using to remove a "air bubble" in the hose that facilitated the draining.
> They said it worked. I haven't tried it, I just "figit" with the hose, but we
> may try either the T fitting, or the plunger. Anybody have a comment on that
> theory? Mary
djs...@ecpi.com
Just a shot in the dark but is your drain hose on the outside of your trailer
kinking where you attach it to the trailer? If so then the problem is a simple
fix. Just get a 90 degree elbow attachment from your local RV supplier and
attach that between the side of your trailer and the hose. That will allow the
hose to run straight down preventing it from kinking instead of pointing
straight out and falling down into a kink.
Hope this helps.
In article <6iaui4$r...@news1.infinet.com>#1/1,
"Gizmo" <giz...@infinet.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
> tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone has a
> fix to this, please let me know.
>
> --
> Gizmo Brown
> http://www.infinet.com/~gizmob
>
>
Nate
Make sure the hose connected to the outlet is NOT submerged in the drain
bucket. That will make it drain dreadfully slow. Just have it rest on
the edge of the bucket, or cut it short enough that it just reaches the
tod edge of the bucket.
Tor Langvand
MLJRose wrote in message
<199805010129...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
>>tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone has
a
>>fix to this, please let me know.
>
>We have also had a problem with the sink draining in our Coleman SunRidge.
I
>haven't found a solution but there was a post a couple of weeks ago that
>described a T fitting that you could make and add between the camper and
the
>drain hose. The purpose is to add an air vent at the hose. I will be trying
it
>in a couple of weeks and will let you know if it works.
>Jeff
Jeff,
I use a tee with a foot long hose sticking straight up on the drain outlet.
I just stick the end of the hose underneath the bay window, and the sink
drains perfect.
Tor & Lois Langvand
Jim Walker
Nate wrote:
>
> Make sure the hose connected to the outlet is NOT submerged in the drain
> bucket. That will make it drain dreadfully slow. Just have it rest on
> the edge of the bucket, or cut it short enough that it just reaches the
> tod edge of the bucket.
>
> In article <6iaui4$r...@news1.infinet.com>, "Gizmo" <giz...@infinet.com> wrote:
>
> > tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone has a
> > fix to this, please let me know.
> >
I have a Sequoia '88 Model with a swing galley. I have not had any
drain problems. I had problems with a previous Columbia which had a
flip galley. The problem was trapping air. One thought with the swing
galley, check the length of the drain and see if it can be changed to
prevent forming an air pocket.
--
Jim Walker
Northern Va.
Hamm4fun
Noticed that mine only messed up when I went camping and not when I had it set
up in the backyard for the kids to sleep over in. The difference I discovered
was that in my backyard I just let the water drain on the ground into the
veggie garden and in a campsite I put it in a bucket. As soon as the end of the
hose was covered by water I began having the problem. A vent definitely would
cure this problem as would keeping the hose out of the bottom of the bucket,
but another solution is being forced upon us. I discovered this past week that
a lot of campsites, State and Federal in particular will not let you run your
grey water into an open bucket. It must be a sealed container designed for the
purpose.
Kelley Davis
I am going to order one of the 10 gallon "tote tanks" from Camping World tomorrow.
It seems like the perfect, albeit somewhat expensive, solution to the grey water
collection/disposal problem. It comes with a hose you can connect to the grey
water drain, and it screws onto the opening of the tank. It also has wheels which
makes lugging it to the dump station easy. There is a 5 gallon tote tank that is
quite a bit cheaper (I think around $20 vs. $40) but it doesn't have wheels, and
hauling 5 gallons of water is too heavy for me.
Kelley
to...@hotmail.com
We had the same problem...we found out that the section of hose underneath
the gally was too long.
In article <nl0-020598...@i2p88.ds.net>#1/1,
n...@ds.net (Nate) wrote:
>
> Make sure the hose connected to the outlet is NOT submerged in the drain
> bucket. That will make it drain dreadfully slow. Just have it rest on
> the edge of the bucket, or cut it short enough that it just reaches the
> tod edge of the bucket.
>
> In article <6iaui4$r...@news1.infinet.com>, "Gizmo" <giz...@infinet.com>
wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any problem with their sink draining properly? Several
> > tmes I have had to fiddle with the hose to get it to drain. If anyone
has a
> > fix to this, please let me know.
> >
> > --
> > Gizmo Brown
> > http://www.infinet.com/~gizmob
>
Jack Anderson
You might end up wishing you bought a larger tank. I have the 15 and now I wish I had
bought the 22 or 30 gallon tank.
Kelley Davis wrote:
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KNK4
We tried our new Sun Ridge this last weekend and when we had a drain hose
attached it would not drain but as soon as we took the hose off it worked fine.
I spoke with my dealer today and they told me that the hose under the gally was
too long. They said to cut about three to four inches off and see if it helps.
They said it forms an air pocket.
do you all think this dealer's solution is valid?
I had an electric break control installed today to see if it will help the sway
and bounce of the trailer. I pull it with a Chevy Astro.
Everything else was great about our new Sunridge. It was very windy outside
but we could not tell from inside. It was very stable.
Kelley Davis
Hmmm, I might, though since I'm used to collecting waste water in a Rubbermaid dish tub,
the 10 gallons will seem like heaven! That, and my husband would pitch a fit if I spent
any more money on it. Do you have a shower in your camper? If so, then a larger one
would make a lot of sense. The only waste water I generate is from doing dishes and
washing hands, so we don't really use up a lot of water. But, you never know, I might
be eating my words a couple of months from now!
dadand1
KNK4 wrote in message
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I dont know how an electric brake will help control sway and bounce.
Sway and bounce are usually caused by improper tongue weight and
weight distribution. Also check to see how level the trailer is when
hooked to the tow vehicle.
The brakes will help you stop a lot quicker though.
GREEN BABR
>You might end up wishing you bought a larger tank. I have the 15 and now I
wish I had bought the 22 or 30 gallon tank.
We have a shower and I was wanting to get one of those tanks too. Can I drain
both the sink and shower into the tank at the same time? Or should I get one
tank for shower and one for sink? (I know..cost, cost) I def. want the one
with wheels!! I'm sure i'll be the one emptying it. What size would you
recommend for those with showers?
Rachel
Bayous of Louisiana
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George Burdo
I have a 15 gal tank with a "Y" adapter on the hose fitting so I can run
both in at the same time. You just need to keep the 3" cap loose so the air
can exit as water enters via the hoses.
Jeff Moyer
The piece is for show. Why not try lubricating the piece with silicone
spray? This would lessen the friction and decrease the likelihood of
bending the piece.
JMPunch
I have a Sun Ridge and have experience the sink drain problem. I have at least
one solution. The drain hose is slightly too long and it can create a very
slow drain. I temporarily took a large rubber band and wired to hold the hose
up a little. Problem solved. I have to find a more elegant solution, but it
wirks for me.
good luck
Uinta
I had the same problem and found that the hose was about 12" to long letting it
form a kink in the line after cutting about 10" from the hose it works fine
with no more problem
My rig is a 95 Coleman CapCod ....... Yep the hard side Coleman LOVE it
Dick Campagna
KNK4 <kn...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199805050243...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> We tried our new Sun Ridge this last weekend and when we had a drain
hose
> attached it would not drain but as soon as we took the hose off it worked
fine.
>
> I spoke with my dealer today and they told me that the hose under the
gally was
> too long. They said to cut about three to four inches off and see if it
helps.
> They said it forms an air pocket.
>
> do you all think this dealer's solution is valid?
>
the sway
> and bounce of the trailer. I pull it with a Chevy Astro.
I don't know how a brake controller could help "sway and bounce," but make
sure that tongue weight is 12-15% of the trailer's total weight, loaded.
That should take care of it.
Dick (& Geri) Campagna, Mt Laurel, NJ mailto:camp...@nothinbut.net
25' Shadow Cruiser 5W & Dodge Ram/Jayco 806 popup & Acura Integra
RV Club (R-CHAR-00226); SKP; GS Club (Life); RVCG; CW Pres Club
ICQ 5620040 "Life in the Slow Lane" RVing since Expo 67!
KNK4
I really did not have anything loaded in it to speak of for the first trip out.
I read in another newsgroup that not having the trailer level could cause the
problem. My trailer sat low in the front and the safety chains almost dragged
on the ground. I'm going to put a different insert in the hitch to raise the
front. Do you think this might help?
bo...@compuserve.com
We just took our new Sun Ridge out as well over the past few weeks. We
had the same issues: sway and poor drainage. See separate post in this
newsgroup regarding the sway. Our dealer said the same thing about the
drain. I have it at the shop as I write to have them determine if the
line is too long. I was also told by a service tech that sometimes even
shortening the line will not fix the problem. In such instances, they
install a new outlet that empties directly under the trailer. The outlet
has a cap just like the one on the roadside outlet. Apparently this fix
will work for sure. The good part is that this is covered under the
warrenty
-bob and sarah in rochester ny