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Const
Jul 10, 2020, 11:50:14 AM7/10/20
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Согласно регуляциям 2012 года (боюсь даже задуматься о том, жестокости какой администрации их приписать), студенты-иностранцы могут брать не более одного онлайн курса, да и то только на визе F, а на визе М не могут ни одного:
https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/2012/07/know-rules-online-and-distance-learning-classes
"An M-1 student may not count online or distance education courses toward a full course of study. An F-1 student may only count one online or distance education course..."
https://jcsla.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/distance-learning-online-course-policy-for-f-1-international-student/
"The Department of Homeland Security requires F-1 students to maintain a full course of study... F-1 students who are taking online or distance learning classes that do not require him/her to be physically present on campus... can count only one online/distance learning class or three credits of online/distance learning per semester toward the full course of study requirement...
For example: An undergraduate student is taking 6 credits of on-campus classes and 6 credits of online courses that do not require him/her to meet on campus. In this example, only 9 credits (6 credits of on-campus classes plus 3 credits of an online course) will count toward his/her full course of study, which will make the student less than full time without authorization, which violates the full course of study requirement. When a student violates the full course of study requirement s/he has lost her/his F-1 status..."
Кровавая трамповская клика внесла в эти регуляции следующие изменения:
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during
"...F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model . that is, a mixture of online and in person classes . will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online.
Due to COVID-19, SEVP instituted a temporary exemption regarding online courses for the spring and summer semesters. This policy permitted nonimmigrant students to take more online courses than normally permitted by federal regulation to maintain their nonimmigrant status"
-- то есть облегчила для иностранных студентов регуляции 2012 года.
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Const
Согласно регуляциям 2012 года (боюсь даже задуматься о том, жестокости какой администрации их приписать), студенты-иностранцы могут брать не более одного онлайн курса, да и то только на визе F, а на визе М не могут ни одного:
https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/2012/07/know-rules-online-and-distance-learning-classes
"An M-1 student may not count online or distance education courses toward a full course of study. An F-1 student may only count one online or distance education course..."
https://jcsla.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/distance-learning-online-course-policy-for-f-1-international-student/
"The Department of Homeland Security requires F-1 students to maintain a full course of study... F-1 students who are taking online or distance learning classes that do not require him/her to be physically present on campus... can count only one online/distance learning class or three credits of online/distance learning per semester toward the full course of study requirement...
For example: An undergraduate student is taking 6 credits of on-campus classes and 6 credits of online courses that do not require him/her to meet on campus. In this example, only 9 credits (6 credits of on-campus classes plus 3 credits of an online course) will count toward his/her full course of study, which will make the student less than full time without authorization, which violates the full course of study requirement. When a student violates the full course of study requirement s/he has lost her/his F-1 status..."
Кровавая трамповская клика внесла в эти регуляции следующие изменения:
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during
"...F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model . that is, a mixture of online and in person classes . will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online.
Due to COVID-19, SEVP instituted a temporary exemption regarding online courses for the spring and summer semesters. This policy permitted nonimmigrant students to take more online courses than normally permitted by federal regulation to maintain their nonimmigrant status"
-- то есть облегчила для иностранных студентов регуляции 2012 года.
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Const
DvD
Jul 10, 2020, 1:25:35 PM7/10/20
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А теперь читаем заголовки
Trump administration's planned purge of international students serves a cruel purpose
Harvard and MIT sue Trump administration over online-only instruction for foreign students in the US
Trump is trying to kick out foreign students amid the pandemic
Trump Speeds Up Plans To Force Foreign Students, Others Out Of U.S.
честнейшие люди эти журналидзы...
DvD
999Vulcan
Jul 10, 2020, 6:21:35 PM7/10/20
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On 7/10/2020 11:49 AM, Const wrote:
> Due to COVID-19, SEVP instituted a temporary exemption regarding online courses for the spring and summer semesters. This policy permitted nonimmigrant students to take more online courses than normally permitted by federal regulation to maintain their nonimmigrant status"
>
> -- то есть облегчила для иностранных студентов регуляции 2012 года.
тут интересно просто взять и почитать Harvard/MIT lawsuit:
> Due to COVID-19, SEVP instituted a temporary exemption regarding online courses for the spring and summer semesters. This policy permitted nonimmigrant students to take more online courses than normally permitted by federal regulation to maintain their nonimmigrant status"
>
> -- то есть облегчила для иностранных студентов регуляции 2012 года.
http://orgchart.mit.edu/sites/default/files/reports/20200708-Harvard-MIT-Complaint-Injunctive-Relief.pdf
...
39. The March 13 Guidance indicated that it was a “temporary provision”
that would remain “in effect for the duration of the emergency.” SEVP
also noted that the situation was “fluid” and “difficult” and that “SEVP
will continue to monitor the COVID-19 situation and will adjust its
guidance as needed.”
40. The President’s national emergency declaration has not been
rescinded or terminated. An emergency in fact continues to persist, as
daily COVID-19 cases in the United States have never significantly
decreased and have recently begun spiking in several regions.
41. Notwithstanding the March 13 Guidance’s statement that it would
remain “in effect for the duration of the emergency,” on June 4, 2020
SEVP issued a “Frequently Asked Questions” document asserting that “SEVP
has not issued guidance to international students and schools for the
fall semester.”
...
56. On July 6, 2020, without employing notice and comment rulemaking, or
even giving students or universities any indication that it was
considering revising its policy, SEVP issued a document (the “July 6
Directive”), attached as Exhibit 1,10 which an accompanying “News
Release” described as announcing “modifications … to temporary
exemptions for nonimmigrant students taking online classes due to the
pandemic for the fall 2020 semester.
дальше там лоерским языком со ссылкой на акты и прецеденты объясняется,
почему этот agency action является arbitrary and capricious и нарушает
Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 706, потому что он Fails To
Consider Important Aspects Of The Problem Before The Agency (Count I),
Fails To Offer Any Reasoned Basis That Could Justify The Policy (Count
II), и Violates The APA’s Requirement Of Notice-And-Comment Rulemaking
(Count III)
делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
по китайскому вопросу они их таки урыли:)
D
Jul 10, 2020, 6:46:13 PM7/10/20
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On 7/10/2020 6:21 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> дальше там лоерским языком со ссылкой на акты и прецеденты объясняется,
> почему этот agency action является arbitrary and capricious и нарушает
> Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 706, потому что он Fails To
> Consider Important Aspects Of The Problem Before The Agency (Count I),
> Fails To Offer Any Reasoned Basis That Could Justify The Policy (Count
> II),
Ну с этим любое правительство сразу можно закрывать.
> дальше там лоерским языком со ссылкой на акты и прецеденты объясняется,
> почему этот agency action является arbitrary and capricious и нарушает
> Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 706, потому что он Fails To
> Consider Important Aspects Of The Problem Before The Agency (Count I),
> Fails To Offer Any Reasoned Basis That Could Justify The Policy (Count
> II),
> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
>
> по китайскому вопросу они их таки урыли:)
Bye, Anatol
dgcom
Jul 11, 2020, 7:59:12 PM7/11/20
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999Vulcan wrote:
>
> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
>
Лоеры з1 урывают любых других на месте, тут даже спорить не надо. Просто
>
> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
>
правительство должно нанять местных знатоков закона и политики.
Д.
999Vulcan
Jul 13, 2020, 9:25:43 PM7/13/20
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...
“The president is using foreign students as pawns to keep all schools open, no matter the cost to the health and well-being of these students and their communities,” said Mark Rosenbaum, a lawyer with Public Counsel, a legal aid organization in Los Angeles representing foreign graduate students at three California universities. “It’s temper-tantrum policymaking.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/f1-student-visas-trump.html
SB
Jul 13, 2020, 11:21:18 PM7/13/20
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-СБ
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 12:42:39 AM7/14/20
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> Ты пропустил
Нет, ты
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 12:45:08 AM7/14/20
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> Ты пропустил
Нет, ты.
Мой ответ выше.
Const
Jul 14, 2020, 1:20:18 AM7/14/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 7:59:12 PM UTC-4, dgcom wrote:
> > 999Vulcan wrote:
> > >
> > > делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
> > >
> >
> > Лоеры з1 урывают любых других на месте, тут даже спорить не надо. Просто
> > правительство должно нанять местных знатоков закона и политики.
> A Trump administration effort to force foreign college students to take in-person classes in the fall or lose their visas has prompted a high-stakes legal battle between the White House and some of America?s top universities, with 17 states and the District of Columbia joining the fray on Monday in a lawsuit that calls the policy ?senseless and cruel.?
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 7:59:12 PM UTC-4, dgcom wrote:
> > 999Vulcan wrote:
> > >
> > > делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
> > >
> >
> > Лоеры з1 урывают любых других на месте, тут даже спорить не надо. Просто
> > правительство должно нанять местных знатоков закона и политики.
> ...
> ?The president is using foreign students as pawns to keep all schools open, no matter the cost to the health and well-being of these students and their communities,? said Mark Rosenbaum, a lawyer with Public Counsel, a legal aid organization in Los Angeles representing foreign graduate students at three California universities. ?It?s temper-tantrum policymaking.?
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/f1-student-visas-trump.html
Что, так и не удалось прочесть, как оно на самом деле ?
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Const
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 9:08:55 AM7/14/20
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> Что, так и не удалось прочесть, как оно на самом деле ?
Тебе - да.
См. мой первый ответ в этом треде.
putinh...@gmail.com
Jul 14, 2020, 11:21:44 AM7/14/20
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средний таксист кроет самого крутого энторнетного лоера какбыкавцу.
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 4:00:27 PM7/14/20
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/immigration-harvard-visa-policy-online-only
CF
Jul 14, 2020, 7:40:03 PM7/14/20
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999Vulcan пишет:
как бы им под дверь насрать.
CF
YuraS
Jul 14, 2020, 8:46:53 PM7/14/20
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Const
Jul 14, 2020, 11:05:20 PM7/14/20
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---
Const
Const
Jul 14, 2020, 11:05:21 PM7/14/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:08:55 AM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > > Что, так и не удалось прочесть, как оно на самом деле ?
> >
> > Тебе - да.
> > См. мой первый ответ в этом треде.
> The Trump administration has rescinded its policy that would bar international students who only take online courses from staying in the US, a federal judge announced Tuesday in Boston.
Ну, то есть, Трампова администрация оказалась не на порядок
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:08:55 AM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > > Что, так и не удалось прочесть, как оно на самом деле ?
> >
> > Тебе - да.
> > См. мой первый ответ в этом треде.
> The Trump administration has rescinded its policy that would bar international students who only take online courses from staying in the US, a federal judge announced Tuesday in Boston.
порядочнее обамовской, но на два порядка.
Спасибо.
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/immigration-harvard-visa-policy-online-only
Что, до сих пор не доходит, что вот сама вот эта фраза
"has rescinded its policy that would bar"
является подлым (очередным) демократическим
передергом ?
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Const
Const
Jul 14, 2020, 11:05:22 PM7/14/20
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Но даже ты, казалось бы, мог бы прочитать, что было на самом деле.
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Const
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 11:09:11 PM7/14/20
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> Ща, побежал искать.
Тут всего десять писем. Не проблема. Если, конечно, интересно знать, в чём на самом деле дело.
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 11:09:54 PM7/14/20
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> Ну, то есть, Трампова администрация оказалась не на порядок порядочнее обамовской, но на два порядка.
Гвозди бы делать из этих людей
Const
Jul 14, 2020, 11:40:19 PM7/14/20
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Не проблема.
Но это не моя не проблема.
Извини, хочешь участвовать в обсуждении - отвечай прямо,
а не "пойди неизвестно куда, принеси неизвестно что".
> Если, конечно, интересно знать, в чём на самом деле дело.
Я абсолютно уверен, что там ничего осмысленного нет.
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Const
Но это не моя не проблема.
Извини, хочешь участвовать в обсуждении - отвечай прямо,
а не "пойди неизвестно куда, принеси неизвестно что".
> Если, конечно, интересно знать, в чём на самом деле дело.
---
Const
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 11:49:10 PM7/14/20
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Повтор от 10 июля:
---
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делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
999Vulcan
Jul 14, 2020, 11:57:27 PM7/14/20
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By L. Rafael Reif
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/coronavirus-trump-immigration-students.html
Harvard’s president, Larry Bacow, termed this move “cruel and reckless,” a ploy to force institutions to open classes as if the pandemic had vanished. On Tuesday, responding to a joint lawsuit led by Harvard and my institution, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, as well as pressure from many other quarters, the government revoked the policy.
Yet the larger battle is far from over. This misguided policy was one of many signals that the administration wants foreign students to stay away — an attitude that reflects a stark misreading of our national interest.
Dr. Reif is president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/coronavirus-trump-immigration-students.html
Harvard’s president, Larry Bacow, termed this move “cruel and reckless,” a ploy to force institutions to open classes as if the pandemic had vanished. On Tuesday, responding to a joint lawsuit led by Harvard and my institution, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, as well as pressure from many other quarters, the government revoked the policy.
Yet the larger battle is far from over. This misguided policy was one of many signals that the administration wants foreign students to stay away — an attitude that reflects a stark misreading of our national interest.
Dr. Reif is president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Const
Jul 15, 2020, 12:00:20 AM7/15/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Повтор от 10 июля:
> ---
> тут интересно просто взять и почитать Harvard/MIT lawsuit:
> http://orgchart.mit.edu/sites/default/files/reports/20200708-Harvard-MIT-Complaint-Injunctive-Relief.pdf
> ...
> 39. The March 13 Guidance indicated that it was a ?temporary provision?
> Повтор от 10 июля:
> ---
> тут интересно просто взять и почитать Harvard/MIT lawsuit:
> http://orgchart.mit.edu/sites/default/files/reports/20200708-Harvard-MIT-Complaint-Injunctive-Relief.pdf
> ...
> that would remain ?in effect for the duration of the emergency.? SEVP^M
> also noted that the situation was ?fluid? and ?difficult? and that ?SEVP
> will continue to monitor the COVID-19 situation and will adjust its
> guidance as needed.?
> 40. The President?s national emergency declaration has not been
> rescinded or terminated. An emergency in fact continues to persist, as
> daily COVID-19 cases in the United States have never significantly
> decreased and have recently begun spiking in several regions.
> 41. Notwithstanding the March 13 Guidance?s statement that it would
> daily COVID-19 cases in the United States have never significantly
> decreased and have recently begun spiking in several regions.
> remain ?in effect for the duration of the emergency,? on June 4, 2020
> SEVP issued a ?Frequently Asked Questions? document asserting that ?SEVP
> has not issued guidance to international students and schools for the
> fall semester.?
> ...
> 56. On July 6, 2020, without employing notice and comment rulemaking, or
> even giving students or universities any indication that it was
> considering revising its policy, SEVP issued a document (the ?July 6
> 56. On July 6, 2020, without employing notice and comment rulemaking, or
> even giving students or universities any indication that it was
> Directive?), attached as Exhibit 1,10 which an accompanying ?News
> Release? described as announcing ?modifications ? to temporary
> exemptions for nonimmigrant students taking online classes due to the
> pandemic for the fall 2020 semester.
> дальше там лоерским языком со ссылкой на акты и прецеденты объясняется,^M
> pandemic for the fall 2020 semester.
> почему этот agency action является arbitrary and capricious и нарушает
> Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. ? 706, потому что он Fails To
> Consider Important Aspects Of The Problem Before The Agency (Count I),
> Fails To Offer Any Reasoned Basis That Could Justify The Policy (Count
> II), и Violates The APA?s Requirement Of Notice-And-Comment Rulemaking
> Fails To Offer Any Reasoned Basis That Could Justify The Policy (Count
> (Count III)
> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
> по китайскому вопросу они их таки урыли:)
Как я и предполагал.
> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
> по китайскому вопросу они их таки урыли:)
Абсолютно ничего по существу.
Просто какой-то идиотский бред.
Нет, это не отвечает на вопрос, понял ли ты, что случилось
на самом деле.
Ну, то есть, в каком-то смысле отвечает, да.
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Const
Const
Jul 15, 2020, 12:00:21 AM7/15/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ну, то есть, Трампова администрация оказалась не на порядок порядочнее обамовской, но на два порядка.
> Гвозди бы делать из этих людей
Только из тебя бы вышел уевый гвоздь.
> > Ну, то есть, Трампова администрация оказалась не на порядок порядочнее обамовской, но на два порядка.
> Гвозди бы делать из этих людей
Очень твердый, но очень тупой и при этом кривой.
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Const
999Vulcan
Jul 15, 2020, 12:02:37 AM7/15/20
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Если ты не понял из цитат (что странно), прокликай по ссылке и почитай целиком.
D
Jul 15, 2020, 12:15:21 AM7/15/20
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On 7/14/2020 11:57 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> Dr. Reif is president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Какой-то он неправильный президент.
> Dr. Reif is president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Не профессор афро-американской истории.
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Jul 15, 2020, 12:17:54 AM7/15/20
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D совсем уже ебанулся
Const
Jul 15, 2020, 12:20:23 AM7/15/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Если ты не понял из цитат (что странно), прокликай по ссылке и почитай целиком.
Это ты ниуя не понял.
> Если ты не понял из цитат (что странно), прокликай по ссылке и почитай целиком.
И продолжаешь настаивать.
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Const
999Vulcan
Jul 15, 2020, 12:26:56 AM7/15/20
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Я прочитал гарвадско-митишный lawsuit.
А ты - очередную методичку.
Const
Jul 15, 2020, 10:25:22 PM7/15/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Я прочитал гарвадско-митишный lawsuit.
> А ты - очередную методичку.
То есть, ты отрицаешь, что последний указ ослабил
> Я прочитал гарвадско-митишный lawsuit.
> А ты - очередную методичку.
обамовские регуляции ?
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Const
DL
Jul 17, 2020, 7:30:22 AM7/17/20
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On 14/07/2020 11:25, 999Vulcan wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 7:59:12 PM UTC-4, dgcom wrote:
>> 999Vulcan wrote:
>>>
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 7:59:12 PM UTC-4, dgcom wrote:
>> 999Vulcan wrote:
>>>
>>> делаем ставки, уроют ли гарвардские лоеры государственных
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> Лоеры з1 урывают любых других на месте, тут даже спорить не надо. Просто
>> правительство должно нанять местных знатоков закона и политики.
>
>> правительство должно нанять местных знатоков закона и политики.
>
> A Trump administration effort to force foreign college students to take in-person classes in the fall or lose their visas has prompted a high-stakes legal battle between the White House and some of America’s top universities, with 17 states and the District of Columbia joining the fray on Monday in a lawsuit that calls the policy “senseless and cruel.”
> ...
> “The president is using foreign students as pawns to keep all schools open, no matter the cost to the health and well-being of these students and their communities,” said Mark Rosenbaum, a lawyer with Public Counsel, a legal aid organization in Los Angeles representing foreign graduate students at three California universities. “It’s temper-tantrum policymaking.”
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/f1-student-visas-trump.html
>
А чо не так? Если вы Учитесь ремотно через интернет, ну так и учИтесь в
> ...
> “The president is using foreign students as pawns to keep all schools open, no matter the cost to the health and well-being of these students and their communities,” said Mark Rosenbaum, a lawyer with Public Counsel, a legal aid organization in Los Angeles representing foreign graduate students at three California universities. “It’s temper-tantrum policymaking.”
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/f1-student-visas-trump.html
>
своем Бангалоре. Не?
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