"Valery Lapenkov" <
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Вот что Янукович сказал сегодня, не вылезая
из укрытия, не отвергаясь от своего престола:
Innocent people were beaten and robbed,
what happened next is difficult to describe.
The decisions taken by parliament with deputies who were assaulted, pressured, thrown
rocks at. They were literally dragged on Maidan to give oaths. This is not the work
of parliament, this is the work of Maidan. This was supposed to be a government of
national unity. They called their government the government of winners. The win over
people? - By Dmytro Yarosh, Oleksandr Parubiy, Oleh Tiahnybok. - People who
propagated violance. When the Constitutional Court is ruined, the country gets
ruined, the statehood destroyed.
Q: Are you ashamed of anything?
"I would like to say sorry to the veterans, to the Ukrainian people that I did not
have the power to stop the chaos that is happening in Ukraine right now. First of
all, I have to say I did not run, I moved from Kyiv to the city of Kharkiv. During my
move I was shot at from automatic weapons. The car that covered me was effectively
shot at from all sides."
Q: "Why did you left the country the next day that you signed the agreement, why
didn't you ask European leaders for help?"
"I was not leaving alone, and did not run.
"I wanted to meet with activists of the Party of Regions and civic organizations at
the forum that was supposed to be held in Kharkiv.
"We did arrive late there. When we came to Kharkiv, early in the morning Feb. 22, the
Security Service received information that the radical groups are coming to the city.
"There was no fear, none, these were security contitions that had to be envisaged and
kept. To manage security is not my job, i took a decision. With me was speaker
Voldoymyr Rybak and presidential chief of staff Andriy Klyuyev. Klyuyev and Rybak
were with me.
"I asked them to fly to Donetsk and assemble the activists and tell everything that
happened to us and what was happening in Kyiv.
"And I took a decision to go to Lugansk by two helicopters.
"The air traffic service warned us that if we do not turn from the course which they
assume was going to Russia.
"The pilots decided to land in Donetsk. The pilots who are law-abiding citizens took
a decion to land in Donetsk. I moved by car motorway to Donetsk. At the end ,we
arrived to Crimea late in the evening.
"But my new plans were ruined by security threats. I got calls from my family that
even my youngest grandson was in list that was to be lustrated. My son called me and
said he could not risk in this situation.
Q: Why we are in Rostov? Pleace comment on the situation in Crimea.
A: "I came to find temrporary shelter with him. I think everything that happens in
crime is a natural reaction to the bandit takeover in Kyiv. It was a bandit coup
actually. It was done by a handful radicals. Naturally the Crimeans will not obey
nationalists and (Stepan Bandera, 1909-1959) Banderites. It's natural, the desire of
Crimeans to join the self-defense. They want to protect their houses and their
families. I think Crimeans are listening to me, i would like to ask them to not allow
bloodshed.
"As the legitimate president of Ukraine, I would like to to ask them to remember that
Crimea has to stay within Ukraine as a broad autonomy. Crimeans want to protect their
homes and families. I ask Crimeans to prevent bloodshed and arguements. As president,
Crimea should stay within Ukrainian borders, with wide autonomy.
"I think that in any military action in this situation is inadmissible. And i am not
planning to turn for military support. I think Ukraine should stay united. I will
return to Ukraine as soon as the conditions of my security and the security of my
family are observed.
Q: How did you get to Russia? Have you met with Putin?
"In Russia, I arrived thanks to the patriotic officers who performed their duty and
helped me save my life. Second, i have not met with Vladimir Vladimorovych Putin. I
have not, after arriving to the territory of Russia. We spoke on the phone. We agreed
that as soon as the Russian president has an opportunity to meet with me, we shall
meet. I said it wasn't just cheated, I was cynically cheated.
"But it's not just me, it's the whole Ukrainian people. I would like to hear an
answer from those who signed and were effectively guarantors. I did not hear any
suggestions and there was no communication, and i did not see in media any calls on
their behalf to show how to solve it. i think this would not be enough. We should
meet and discuss, this issue is not yet off agenda."
Q: Why did the Party of Regions split?
I am not a judge, let the God judge you, who behaves how, and i am not condemning
those people who were forced under the automatics rifles - this is not an
exaggerration - forces to take certain decisiosn, and their familiers,when their
houses were burned. I talked to some of these deputies over the phone. What i heard
from them was horrible. I will pray to God that the new so-called power will stop the
violence thats going on.
Q: What's the reason for nearly default situation in Ukraine? Are you going to take
part in the election?
"The pre-default state, not a single expert will deny that this state arose after the
situation in Ukraine was destablilized and Ukraine lost such a partner in trade as
Russia. We paid salaries regularly, and we intended to continue to raise social
payments. The whole population knows it. We guaranteed that all these programs would
be fulfilled. Of course we prepared for the 2015 election and tried to persuade the
population that it's' best to live in a stable country. Our support was the highest
among all parties in Ukraine. People believed it. I am placing full repsonsibility on
those who led to chaos and catastrophe. Those who cam to power and those who command
on Maidan, including the representatives of the West who blessed Maidan.
"The election is not legal, and I will not take part in it. I think all elections
have to happen in accordance with law and constitution. The USA representatives who
followed Maidan, they are responsible to Ukrainians."
Q: Are you going to continue your political career? How are you going to fight for
Ukraine?
"As soon as I have a real opportunity and conditions are created and guarantees of my
security, including from international mediators, I will immediately go to Ukraine. I
can see the way to regulate the crisis.
"Primarily it's the agreement that was signed and not fulfilled on one side. The
non-fulfillment of this agreement is fully to blame on the West, hich sent envoys,
agreed on all conditions, and discussed all clases at the council that gathered on
that day in Brussels.
"I don't think there is a single person in this hall who would derive pleasure from
what'a going on in Kyiv. You understand my condition and the condition of my
like-minded people and the people who suffer as a result of terror and chaos in the
country. I have addressed and would like to address again all participants.
'It's not too late to go back'
"I reject what's going on, these methods. It's not too late to return along with your
patrons from the West. It's not too late to go back. I met with the Berkut (riot
police offiers ) who stood there, and i apologized to them, without weapons and they
had Molotov cocktails fired at them, and were attacked with guns."
Q: What do you think about ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko's release from prison
on Feb. 22 Would you like to apologize to the Berkut (riot police officers) who
protected you with their bodies?
"I would like to apologize to them again. I don't know about Yulia Tymoshenko. I
don't know if she will run for election and the Ukrainian people are to answer. As
far as her criminal case goes, she was sentenced by court, the court took decisions.
Her conditions were exclusive. Her freeing is an issue that is in legal sphere
primarily. How she was freed i have never wished her any bad. But the (2009)
agreement she signed (with Russia about the price of natural gas imports) led to more
than $20 billion in losses. She know that very well.
"The West and actually the president of Russia Vladimir Putin expressed a different
point of view from that of the court, and my position is that it's their own business
but the Ukrainian court answered that question. I am repeating with facts.
Q: How can you prove that you are the real president of Ukraine?
"The laws that were approved by violence in parliament. I do not recognize and will
never recognize. I did not sign them and they will not work. This is the legal fact.
If the president did not resign, according to constitution, if he is alive - and as
you can see i am alive - and if he was not impeached, he is still acting president.
The show in parliaent, with violence against deputies, i cannot recognize and will
never recognize."
Q: What is the role of Russia in this conflict?
"I think Ukraine [Editor's Note: He assumingly meant to say Russia] is our strategic
partner. The agreements between Ukraine and Russia, within the framework of those
agreements Russia has a right to act. I think Russia must act, and knowing the
character of Vladimir Vladimorich Putin, I am surprised that he is so restrained and
silent. Those agreements we have with Russia, Russia has a right to act.
Q: Do you regret conducting negotiations with Maidan representatives?
"We conducted official negotiations with representativs of the opposition.The rest of
negotiations on the human level with any representatives of Maidan, civic
organizarions, there were a lot of them, and they were all directed to prevent
bloodshed and finding a compromise. I regret that in this way, peacefully we could
not regulate. I am not accepting any way of regulating the issues, except peaceful.
No power is worth a drop of bloodshed. This is all on consciouness of those people
who shot.
'I never gave orders to shoot'
"I never gave orders to shoot. As you know the police were not armed until the last
moment when they were attacked. And as you know they protect themselves with arms
under the law. I am remembering 2004, when the situation was similar, when my
supporters arrived to the railway station,around 40 000 people, and on Maidan there
were so-called Orange Revolution people. I went to the train station, and stoped
people from bloodshed."
"I told them your mothers, your wives will never forgive you if there are deaths and
if there is bloodshed. The rest of negotiations on the human level with any
representatives of Maidan, civic organizations. There were a lot of them, and they
were all directed to prevent bloodshed and finding a compromise.
"Regarding The Hague , my point of view is that first there has to be an independent
investigation, with participartion of power and opposition, with participation of the
Council of Europe. After an investigation we can talk about courts. I would prefer
not to answer these questions. I am often provoked.
'The truth will be known'
"I will tell you that time will pass and the truth will be known. Now there is a
theater performance with the participation of militants and their patrons."
Mezhyhirya 'too old, I had to repair it'
"The power changed, and they tried to remove me. There was an offer to buy it. I
paid. That house was too old, I had to repair it. Then there was a decision for me to
buy it. I paid $3,200,000. The rest does not belong to me. Part of the premises i
rented to fulfill my duties as a president. This is a campaign to discredit. I have
never had any property. I have never had any foreign account. There are real owners,
you will hear from them, and international lawysers will be going to court,because
this property is not under Ukrainian ownership.
'Stop or you will be held responsible'
"I am a public person. Evrything I had was declared and was on my accounts and when
they say my son owns it, I have never heard it. This is empty bell-ringing. I would
like to say again to come back to their senses and stop or you will be held
responsible...
"I would like to again address those who call themselves legal power. I would like to
say leave and do not allow more lawlessness and grief for the Ukrainian people. I
would like to address the Ukrainian people. I would like to apologize to everyone who
has suffered and continues to suffer. I will do whatever I can do.
Disavows 'scum, nationalists and Banderites'
I will keep going to be with people of Ukraine, not the scum, nationalists and
Banderites [Editor's Note: Reference to Stepan Bandera, 1909-1959, a Ukrainian
nationalist leader who is an iconic nationalist to his supporters and reviled by his
critics for allegedly sympathizing with the Nazis during World War II.]
"If was in Ukraine. I would bow to every one of them and meet with every family,
regardless of the side. The lives of people have always be most important to me. The
truth will eventually come out."
END OF UNOFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT, TRANSLATION - LAST CORRECTED KYIV TIME 18:34
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