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Jun 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/5/99
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a set ofwhite->grey*3->black oil pastels "for rendering"

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auuV

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:40:05 GMT, in message
<375d7cc6...@news.demon.co.uk>, auuV wrote:

>a set ofwhite->grey*3->black oil pastels "for rendering"

And surprisingly effective they are, too, in the hands of one who has
little skill or experience with oil pastels *or* rendering[0].

[0] If rendering in this context means something like "using shading to
represent a three-dimensional appearance".

just

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> On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:40:05 GMT, in message
> <375d7cc6...@news.demon.co.uk>, auuV wrote:

> >a set ofwhite->grey*3->black oil pastels "for rendering"

> And surprisingly effective they are, too, in the hands of one who has
> little skill or experience with oil pastels *or* rendering[0].

> [0] If rendering in this context means something like "using shading to
> represent a three-dimensional appearance".

Thank goodness for that. I thought for one horrifying moment you were
up to unspeakable acts in the Garette. My sister[3], not the actor or
her twin, the artist[1], the other one - the one that has a school[2].

Anyway, her husband, a German, works in a pork processing thing. Live
piggies go in one end of the *thing* and "Value-added foodstuffs"
come out the other. He invited us for a visit to the *thing* and in
one of the compartments they *render* <shudder>

[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.
[2] yes, she has a school.
[3] she's also a qualified jeweller[4]
[4] as is my wife.

I wish I had a talent :(

A.

ke...@neuk.net

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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In message <199906061...@home.zetnet.co.uk>
just <rela...@home.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Anyway, her husband, a German, works in a pork processing thing. Live
>piggies go in one end of the *thing* and "Value-added foodstuffs"
>come out the other. He invited us for a visit to the *thing* and in
>one of the compartments they *render* <shudder>

One of my programming jobs was at a small firm on an industrial estate.
Right opposite us was a specialist butcher. The butchers used to have a
skip full of water, with loads of wibbly white bits of animal innards
bobbing around in it.

I got curious once and asked them about it, and about butchery in
general. They told me that there is a pecking order for meat products,
something like this:

Top cuts like steak

Generic "meat" (more affordable)

Mince - not quite so easy to see what you're getting as with "meat", but
reasonably clean and lean

Sausages - mince in a conveniently opaque sac, with enough rusk to soak
up the fat, and enough spices to hide any "imperfections"

Steamed and mechanically recovered meat products (eg paté) - all the
crud they couldn't even get away with putting in sausages

Rendered products, eg jelly.

According to these butchers, sausages are so watered-down with
breadcrumbs and rusk that even though they contain less-than-prime cuts,
you're only getting about 30% meat (or fat) anyway. So they're not as
Evil as they are sometimes made out to be.

Paté, on the other hand, is something you *don't* want to hear about.
Suffice to say that although I'm not particularly squeamish, I no longer
eat either paté or jelly. In fact, dog food sounds more appetizing than
paté, if what they say is true.

And we come to the point at last. Perhaps your sister's German husband
can confirm or deny these allegations? I would hate to think that I had
been trolled. :(

>[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
>produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.

I could do tha. Gizza job.

>I wish I had a talent :(

I thought you were a talanted lekker?

PS: did you know that you can get a lekker.neuk.net email address? :)

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auuV

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:44:03 +0100, in message
<199906061...@home.zetnet.co.uk>, just wrote:

>The message <375a8dd9...@news.demon.co.uk>
> from au...@pobox.com (auuV) contains these words:
>
>
>> On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:40:05 GMT, in message
>> <375d7cc6...@news.demon.co.uk>, auuV wrote:
>
>> >a set ofwhite->grey*3->black oil pastels "for rendering"
>
>> And surprisingly effective they are, too, in the hands of one who has
>> little skill or experience with oil pastels *or* rendering[0].
>
>> [0] If rendering in this context means something like "using shading to
>> represent a three-dimensional appearance".
>
>Thank goodness for that. I thought for one horrifying moment you were
>up to unspeakable acts in the Garette.

Admittedly, I have little skill in rendering - but the pictures aren't
*that* bad. ;(

> My sister[3], not the actor or
>her twin, the artist[1], the other one - the one that has a school[2].

There's a richness of sisters!

I don't have even so much as a boring one. :(


>
>Anyway, her husband, a German, works in a pork processing thing. Live
>piggies go in one end of the *thing* and "Value-added foodstuffs"
>come out the other.

Reminds me of a horrific documentary on TV some years ago, about an
apprentice being drawn into a pet-food-making machine when he got caught
on it.

>He invited us for a visit to the *thing* and in
>one of the compartments they *render* <shudder>

A renderer's truck used to (perhaps still does) go round the butchers'
shops here, collecting unwanted and gruesome parts. The smell from the
open-backed truck was, shall we say, memorable.


>
>[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
>produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.

>[2] yes, she has a school.
>[3] she's also a qualified jeweller[4]
>[4] as is my wife.

>I wish I had a talent :(

Lift that bushel.

auuV

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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On Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:35:17 GMT, in message
<3770043d...@news.freeuk.net>, ke...@neuk.net wrote:

Hello, Kenny! :)

<waves>

>And we come to the point at last. Perhaps your sister's German husband
>can confirm or deny these allegations? I would hate to think that I had
>been trolled. :(

I hope Andrew gets your posting on his return, to give you the skinny on
the allegations.

Meanwhile, I will delve into my memories of "horrible things seen on TV
(under curious circumstances department)" and mention yet another
documentary. This one was shown in the mid-80s and showed some of the
processes for mechanically recovering meat (they (used to) say on Vesta
packets "contains chopped and shaped beef", which sounded quite
wholesome). The image, from the programme, of a huge vat of grey-pink
slurry being stirred by huge metal blades has stayed with me...

Around the same time, a civil servant friend who worked in the field
(hah!) of EC agricultural policy used to take great delight in putting us
off our beer by describing the permitted contents of various meat
products. The only thing that I specifically remember at the moment is
"green offal". :(

I imagine a lot has changed since the introduction of regulations aimed at
pacifying the outcry about BSE.

>>[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
>>produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.
>

>I could do tha. Gizza job.

Please send GIF GIF GIF of you eating an Aero and we will be happy to
consider your application.


>
>>I wish I had a talent :(
>

>I thought you were a talanted lekker?
>
>PS: did you know that you can get a lekker.neuk.net email address? :)

:)

Wilson

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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auuV wrote:
>
> a set ofwhite->grey*3->black oil pastels "for rendering"
>
> --
> auuV


Strangely coincidental, I myself, just recently underwent a futile
search for *pencils*. A friend at work in the television production
factory handed me a strange pencil from my youth. It was ordinary
enough from tip to hilt, but the eraser part took a strange turn, as it
flattened out and became rectangular in cross-section. Also, as I was
to later discover, the eraser part wasn't glued or pressed in, but
slipped inside in its own tiny metal sheath.
At any rate, I ignored the pencil {incidentally, it is a
Faber-Castell BLACKWING 602} for a week or two, until I accidentally
sketched something with it one day. Oh, bliss! It was the perfect
sketching pencil, graphite all dark and smooth and shiny! I must have
more!
A quick search of the I-net revealed a dearth of information about
the elusive BLACKWING 602, including a search of the Faber-Castell home
page. I did, however, find a list of DISTRIBUTORS of F-C products, only
to drive 22 miles in the opposite direction of my home one day after
work, and only to hear the dreaded words from the pencil purveyor,
'Sorry, that model was discontinued by the manufacturer.'
I hold in my hand...a relic.
Just thought you might like to know.

Wilson, from Sunland, California
{Remove SPAMFREE from above address to reply}


lov...@fuckyou.co.uk

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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Wilson <alv...@SPAMFREEearthlink.net> wrote:

> I hold in my hand...a relic.
> Just thought you might like to know.

It's always good to hear about pencils.

Especially the ones that They(tm) don't want you to have.

~jacaranda

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:35:52 GMT, in message
<376748a...@news.freeuk.net>, lov...@fuckyou.co.uk wrote:

>In message <3760EE9F...@SPAMFREEearthlink.net>
> Wilson <alv...@SPAMFREEearthlink.net> wrote:

[Faber-Castell BLACKWING 602]

>> I hold in my hand...a relic.
>> Just thought you might like to know.

It was good to read about this. It sounds as if it might be like a style
of pencil that I treasure for drawing. I have two variations on this:
the original and wonderful Royal Sovereign BLACK PRINCE 828 (out of
production, as far as I know, for the last 20 years - I hesitate to use my
last remaining one); the less wonderful, but still good, Hardmuth ZULU 359
(I still have two of those).

The line is somewhat blacker and waxier than the Karisma Blacklead pencil.

>
>It's always good to hear about pencils.

Agreed.

>Especially the ones that They(tm) don't want you to have.

It's curious (in a Sinister way) that all the best blacklead drawing
pencils have been discontinued. :(


just

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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> And we come to the point at last. Perhaps your sister's German husband
> can confirm or deny these allegations? I would hate to think that I had
> been trolled. :(

I would hazard that that was all true in UK. There is no point asking
my sister's husband anything about butchery. It's a German run
*thing* and there's probably a law saying their sausages must be 100%
meat or something.
They do tend to take things a bit seriously.
He's also a Master Brewer and imported hops and barley from, not only
Germany, specific farms in Germany . At one point they were brewing a
Christmas beer and were going through the logistics of importing
*water*. I don't know if they did. All this to have the word German
on the product.
Incidentally, the sausages were uncommonly good - mmmm schtokiwurst <sp>

> >[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
> >produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.

> I could do tha. Gizza job.

You'll have to do something about your enunciation. You won't sell
much chocolate talking like tha.
On the script it forbade the eating of chocolate on set unless it was
on camera. I guess they have the same rules on a porno set!

> >I wish I had a talent :(

> I thought you were a talanted lekker?

oh forgot about that

> PS: did you know that you can get a lekker.neuk.net email address? :)

No I never :)

A.
Yebobo


~jacaranda

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:07:11 +0100, in message
<199906131...@home.zetnet.co.uk>, just wrote:

>> >[1] artist, drummer, singer, graphics for the CDs her husband
>> >produces oh and just finished eating chocolate for an Aero ad.
>
>> I could do tha. Gizza job.
>
>You'll have to do something about your enunciation. You won't sell
>much chocolate talking like tha.
>On the script it forbade the eating of chocolate on set unless it was
>on camera. I guess they have the same rules on a porno set!

Not for the "fluffers".


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