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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 4:49:46 PM12/14/08
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I had heard about the coalition problems in Ukraine. So this means the
pro-Russian guy will be back in power?

Doesn't it bother my mother that McCain's lobbyist/campaign manager has been
lobbying for the PRO Russian guy. She said she wouldn't vote so as not to
vote for McCain, but she did vote for him anyway.

That would have more effect than joining NATO.

Yeah McCain, just wants to play with the tanks move them around the map.
Doesn't give a flying fig about domestic anything. It's not the financial
problems that made him lose. It's the fact that he doesn't care about it.

"marika" <marik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yulia Timoshenko is a fake. She is the pro Russian bear guy in sheep's
> clothing.
>
> Their Ukrainian constitution is insane. When they can't agree on
> something they get to dissolve the country. So anyone's guess who will
> win this one. It seems to happen about two times a year. But this time,
> she is probably doing it because of her concerns about what they did to UK
> last time - cut off natural gas supply, Winter's around the corner
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marika" <marik...@gmail.com>
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> On Nov 24, 5:04 pm, The Queen B <holleratwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is is a holiday week, and gas here is $1.63! What gives? This
>> flaunting of the traditional holiday price spike makes me uneasy. Is
>> there nothing we can depend upon anymore?
>
> One of the reasons that Russia was able to engage in the Georgia
> conflict and continues to do what it does as far as show of strength
> has to do with petrodollars. I think that the falling prices are as
> much a global response to taking the wind out of the sails of Russia's
> purchasing power as it is anything else
>
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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 4:51:17 PM12/14/08
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Norquist, the 'drown government in a bathtub' guy.

Ma and Logic = bad combination.


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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 4:53:15 PM12/14/08
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I didn't know the names of the people, or if i did I read it 8 years ago.
I did know that Bush's intent 8 years ago whatever the name. to drown the
government. Turns out that's norquisting
I warned tato about it. He didn't believe me the first time. he did the
second time.

Ma still doesn't believe it.


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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:02:56 PM12/14/08
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Ukraina government got dissolved mid-September, btw.
It was all about the Georgia war.
So McCain and Bush got what they wanted a bump in the polls because of
perceived strength when the helped Saakashvili start this thing.
But they didn't count on this fallout in in Ukraina.
McCain is a war monger. It's all he knows. He just wants to play general
because he never got that far, but his daddy was an admiral so it's penis
envy.
He has picked the single most hawkish running mate on the planet. Who
doesn't understand the nuance of diplomacy. or anything about the military.
US having started this Ukraina disaster now has an obligation to send Condi
in there to help them mend this problem.
they did. but she did little else except explain why it is ok to put
missiles in Poland. they want more war becasue they WANT the world to be
perceived as dangerous.
that week was the complete end of the US as we know it. Financially,
intellectually and militarily.
Get ready for the fundies to prevent you from saying one bad word against
the government when they get in power. just like was done in Bush's term.
More strongly in the first one. Thank god I have another four years of
being able to criticize. I hope anyway.
I am still waiting for the October surprise.

I thought for sure it would be the head of Bin Laden on a plate. Will they
say he died of natural causes to prevent Jihad I don't know. I thought for
sure they had the power to bring this about. Well, the power hasn't handed
off yet. still time.
The patriot act will come into worse play on that day. if it comes. I hope
it doesn't
You won't be able to support the democratic candidate on that day. there
won't be a candidate. only a self appointed tsar.
That's the day we will become a totalitarian government so we can deal with
with "islamic jihad" and the important financial and energy issues facing
us.

I do know that our military has been crossing illegally (in the sense of
against international treaties and laws) into Pakistan to raid al Qaeda.
Pakistan very mildy objected. This is exactly what we accused Russia of
doing in Georgia.
Bizarrely even Obama supports these raids into Pakistan a smoldering hotbed
of islamic nationalism. extreme nationalism is bad here in this country and
bad in Pakistan. As it was in nazi Germany.

Obama might have lost the election, I believe by supporting the Pakistan
initiatives. Because nothing good can come of it. It was a support of war
while not supporting war.

I am still afraid of losing our freedom of speech. He could get nuts and
do it as well as any other totalitarian leader who used emergencies for
totalitarianism.

Tato has been warning me of this day for 6 years. He said that Hitler got
into power doing just that,

Tato said he left Germany and KGB to come back to Germany and KGB 50 years
later - that's what Bush did

He is right. He said a power grab would happen right before the election.
It didn't. There's nothing left to grab. The country has disintegrated.

I'm pretty scared about this.
The need to defend against "evil" will pretty much kill us all.


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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:04:00 PM12/14/08
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YOU KNOW OF COURSE THAT WAS EXACTLY THE GROVER NORQUIST/NEOCN PLAN, RIGHT?

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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:06:41 PM12/14/08
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I can't believe I didn't remember this but during the 'interview' with
Charlie Gibson as soon as Palin said 'oh sure let's let Ukraine and Georgia
into NATO why not', I immediately thought: "DOOM that's it!" Sure enough
that's all it took for MA to like her.
So what if the US is totally ruined economically and there won't BE an army
to defend UKRaina when Russia invades it, but UKRaina will be in her
precious "NAH-TO"


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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:08:52 PM12/14/08
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YEAH WHO CARES ABOUT HER OWN CHILDREN AS LONG AS PRECIOUS UKRAINA IS IN
NAH-TO.
. I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN my mother, CHOOSING A FANTASY OVER REALITY. I'LL
BE LIVING IN A BOX SHE'LL BE DEAD BUT UKRaina WILL BE IN NAH-TO

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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:10:25 PM12/14/08
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here's a couple pictures of sarah palin

http://patriotroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/palin-5.JPG
http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/palin-in-the-car.jpg

http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/palin-in-the-car.jpg


in the third one, she has a polar bear pin

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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:13:12 PM12/14/08
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my theory is that my mother supported Palin on the basis of her position
about just plain going to war with the Russians over Ukraine being in Nato.

With her that's always the bottom line. Even more important than birds

I think that is also why she voted for bush the first time, and I have a
feeling she also voted for him the second time even though tato voted for
Kerry

What really upsets me about this is that this is that it is obvious that
Bush has destroyed absolutely everything about the US.

What REALLY upsets me more is that she cares more about Ukraina than she
does about whether or not me and my sisters have any money to buy food or
have medical insurance when WE get old

it's obvious that we won't after this week there's no hope of the economy
recovering enough \so she isn't thinking about the next generation, just
Ukraina

the huge tax write offs that bank of america got for these purchases of
failing banks will reduce the tax base over the next ten years and this
means no safe bridges, no schools, no streets no subways no nothing to get
people to work when they can no longer afford to drive

i don't get why she doesn't get this but tato does

well he ended up voting for McCain

I'm wrote in Kucinich

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marika

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Dec 14, 2008, 10:05:59 PM12/14/08
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I was watching Rachel Maddow on Halloween - on that date, she reported that
the intelligence community definitely
was expecting bin laden message that night
I don't see anything corroborating this elsewhere
I bet they got one and I bet they didn't air it

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