ARGH! HDD go boom!
Nicholas Knight
back to me with the password I long ago forgot and is still resting
comfortably on my laptop's semi-dead HDD.
Yesterday, around 21:00, my laptop started acting funny.
Specificaly, it kinda-sorta-semi-froze. The processor had plenty of
idle time avalible to it, had plenty of free RAM, but something seemed
to be occupying the HDD.
Ctrl-alt-esc to dump out of X and KDE since a "proper" closing wasn't
accomplishing much.
Wait...and wait... and wait.... finally! a bash prompt!
"top"
wait... and wait... and wait... finally!
only thing taking up any CPU time at ALL is top itself and the dnetc
client. If anything was doing something with the HDD, it should be
occupying SOME CPU cycles...
attempt to close top.. get frustraited... hit power button
power it back up
LILO.... loading kernel... init.... init... init... helloooooo...
earth to init.... oh, there you are... what do you mean failed? what
do you mean you can't find that file?!
and why the hell is my hostname listed as (none) ?!
and why is it taking 5 minutes to process my root login?
DriveReady SeekComplete Error
oh great
UnRecoverable Error
oh shit...
reboot with gentoo install CD
e2fsck... runs for a while very slowly
kill it
hdparm -t /dev/hda
....
....
....
takes forever to even start, then it never finishes
e2fsck again
let it run for a while
DriveReady SeekComplete Error
Unrecoverable Error
rinse repeat
*sigh*
no audible indications of failure yet...
Have a hunch. Shut the thing down, pull the power cord and battery.
Let it sit for a minute. Plug it back in. Boot it up. Everything's
fine. Run fsck, fix errors, go about my business. (recently read about
a guy having this sort of trouble, his controller got royaly confused
about something, had to cut power, never had trouble since)
Two hours or so later...
you guessed it... semi-lockup state, DriveReady SeekComplete Errors
with UnRecoverable Error messages. SHIT!
Keep going around, trying various things, not wanting to believe the
HDD is actually dying.
What I should have done was start pulling data off IMMIEDIATELY, but
no, I had to keep screwing around.
Now I've got AUDIBLE indications of imminent death. I'm not turning
this thing back on until I'm ready to recover everything in one swoop.
If I can even get everything.
So now, I'm sitting here on my desktop. A perfectly good laptop bought
in January with a dying Fujitsu 30GB HDD next to me.
As I'm going to have serious problems trying to pull shit off with an
ordinary rescue disk (you don't want to know why, trust me), I'm
currently waiting for a 540MB download of an rescue *CD* to complete.
Five hours and counting.
Pull data off, call MWave on Monday and see how fast I can get a
replacement. *sigh*
Nicholas Knight
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> Posted from google groups while I wait for the CIS.DFN crew to get
> back to me with the password I long ago forgot and is still resting
> comfortably on my laptop's semi-dead HDD.
Well the good news is, the guys at cis.dfn sent my password back already :)
Nicholas Knight
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<snip>
> As I'm going to have serious problems trying to pull shit off with an
> ordinary rescue disk (you don't want to know why, trust me), I'm
> currently waiting for a 540MB download of an rescue *CD* to complete.
> Five hours and counting.
Been doing data recovery for about an hour and a half to two hours now. Got
everything important off with minimal corruption, now working on a couple
gigs of "other".
I have officialy entered the ranks of "dealt with failure of a critical
component".
Nicholas Knight
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Do I get a t-shirt?
Nicholas Knight
> coasters, once you open the broken HD :)
>
> Vox
Unfortunitely I doubt I can even do that. MWave will probably make me ship
at least the drive (maybe the whole laptop) back to them for a warranty
replacement :(
I'd love to just buy a new drive and not deal with warranty crap, but I
don't have the avalible cash.
Agelmar
news:86b14b22.02051...@posting.google.com...
> back to me with the password I long ago forgot and is still resting
> comfortably on my laptop's semi-dead HDD.
>
> Yesterday, around 21:00, my laptop started acting funny.
> Specificaly, it kinda-sorta-semi-froze. The processor had plenty of
> idle time avalible to it, had plenty of free RAM, but something seemed
> to be occupying the HDD.
Well, look at it this way... wasn't it more interesting than just
accidentally typing rm -rf? ^-^ In all seriousness though, is it still under
warranty or is the drive out of warranty period? (I know you said Jan but
some people have like a 30 day replacement policy or some utter shit...)
Cursim
> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> news:86b14b22.02051...@posting.google.com...
>
> <snip>
> > As I'm going to have serious problems trying to pull shit off with an
> > ordinary rescue disk (you don't want to know why, trust me), I'm
> > currently waiting for a 540MB download of an rescue *CD* to complete.
> > Five hours and counting.
>
> Been doing data recovery for about an hour and a half to two hours now.
Got
> everything important off with minimal corruption, now working on a couple
> gigs of "other".
>
"other" huh? Can't let go of those 10 gigs of pr0n eh? :p
--
Cursim
"Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn for sega"
-Brodie, "Mall Rats"
Nicholas Knight
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MWave has a 1 year parts and labor warranty for their laptops. So they WILL
be replacing this drive.
And at some point, I WILL be aquiring something besides a Fujitsu for this
laptop, but that'll take a while.
Nicholas Knight
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>
> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> news:ac75bc$nce42$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> > news:86b14b22.02051...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > <snip>
> > > As I'm going to have serious problems trying to pull shit off with an
> > > ordinary rescue disk (you don't want to know why, trust me), I'm
> > > currently waiting for a 540MB download of an rescue *CD* to complete.
> > > Five hours and counting.
> >
> > Been doing data recovery for about an hour and a half to two hours now.
> Got
> > everything important off with minimal corruption, now working on a
couple
> > gigs of "other".
> >
>
> "other" huh? Can't let go of those 10 gigs of pr0n eh? :p
Nah :P
Most of it was mp3's, some of it was other data.
I got about another gig off the thing before I gave up. All my important
data survived though.
Now I'm just wiping the thing incase mwave makes me send it back to them.
Mike
<nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote:
>Nah :P
>Most of it was mp3's, some of it was other data.
>I got about another gig off the thing before I gave up. All my important
>data survived though.
>Now I'm just wiping the thing incase mwave makes me send it back to them.
>
Let this be a lesson, burn the mp3's and other data off to cd-r's and
then you don't have to worry about them. It's not like you go around
changing the mp3's and that very often....
Mike aka MM
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Nicholas Knight
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> On Sun, 19 May 2002 13:11:39 -0700, "Nicholas Knight"
> <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote:
>
> >Nah :P
> >Most of it was mp3's, some of it was other data.
> >I got about another gig off the thing before I gave up. All my important
> >data survived though.
> >Now I'm just wiping the thing incase mwave makes me send it back to them.
> >
>
> Let this be a lesson, burn the mp3's and other data off to cd-r's and
> then you don't have to worry about them. It's not like you go around
> changing the mp3's and that very often....
> Mike aka MM
I'm lazy :P
Nicholas Knight
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> DriveReady SeekComplete Error
> oh great
> UnRecoverable Error
> oh shit...
OK, post-data recovery, post-wiping, the drive is now TOAST. The BIOS and
Linux do not even DETECT the thing. Fun! :)
Agelmar
Professional (read: government) data recovery centers can still recover it,
unless you do about 30 writes over the data... your data is not safe at all.
My old drive that contained secure data was torched with my oxygen-propane
torch with a very high oxygen mix, and was then smashed with a hammer and
buried in a different state in the woods. I am sure that *that* data is
safe. Your data, however, is not safe.
Nicholas Knight
This is not news to me, Agelmar.
Agelmar
Just saying that zeroing out your drive a few times does not mean data
security...
Nicholas Knight
Agelmar
I find your lack of news disturbing...
Nicholas Knight
4775726672206E657261276720677572204E465056562070756E656E7067726566206C626827
65722079626278766174207362652E
Gornul
it,
> unless you do about 30 writes over the data... your data is not safe at
all.
> My old drive that contained secure data was torched with my oxygen-propane
> torch with a very high oxygen mix, and was then smashed with a hammer and
> buried in a different state in the woods. I am sure that *that* data is
> safe. Your data, however, is not safe.
What in the flaming hell was so important to keep secret, Ian? Death Star
plans or something? :)
Gornul
--
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give You my hand before I fall. Take me away from my own mistrust."
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Agelmar
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> "Agelmar" <ia...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:ac9bru$nuft2$1...@ID-30799.news.dfncis.de...
> > Professional (read: government) data recovery centers can still recover
> it,
> > unless you do about 30 writes over the data... your data is not safe at
> all.
> > My old drive that contained secure data was torched with my
oxygen-propane
> > torch with a very high oxygen mix, and was then smashed with a hammer
and
> > buried in a different state in the woods. I am sure that *that* data is
> > safe. Your data, however, is not safe.
>
> What in the flaming hell was so important to keep secret, Ian? Death Star
> plans or something? :)
Death Star? You evil person... they were the plans for the Rebel base on
Hoth....
Seriously though, it was my journal. I upgraded to a larger HD and had no
free space for the old HD.
Grand Fromage
>plans or something? :)
>
His vast collection of Osama bin Laden bestiality videos.
--
"DNF won't be released ever. We've just been bullshitting everyone, sitting
around drinking beer, farting, and watching Britney spears fake pr0n movies." -
Joe3DR
Agelmar
news:20020519230022...@mb-bj.aol.com...
> >What in the flaming hell was so important to keep secret, Ian? Death
Star
> >plans or something? :)
> >
>
> His vast collection of Osama bin Laden bestiality videos.
More Colin Powell than bin Laden....
lol seriously though, read my post right before yours
Hanky'
<nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote:
>"Agelmar" <ia...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
>news:ac9k1h$o0i87$1...@ID-30799.news.dfncis.de...
>> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
>> news:ac9c92$mmb1j$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
>> >
>> > This is not news to me, Agelmar.
>>
>> Just saying that zeroing out your drive a few times does not mean data
>> security...
>
>This is not news to me, Agelmar.
Wow, a fight for the bottom of the bitch ladder
Nicholas Knight
> > "Hanky'" <ha...@marijuana.com> wrote in message
> > news:1trgeu0giqhmeooml...@4ax.com...
> just
> > trying to figure out which of us is higher than the other.
>
> I'll have an answer for you within 30 minutes.
> No, you don't want to know.
Scratch that, it'll take a little while longer. It's working for the most
part, but I need more data and need to redo how I'm storing some of it.
I really should be asleep.
Nicholas Knight
> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> news:acak77$o50bf$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Agelmar" <ia...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> > > No, we're not disputing the fact that you're at the dead bottom, we're
> > just
> > > trying to figure out which of us is higher than the other.
> >
> > I'll have an answer for you within 30 minutes.
> > No, you don't want to know.
>
> Scratch that, it'll take a little while longer. It's working for the most
> part, but I need more data and need to redo how I'm storing some of it.
>
> I really should be asleep.
The things I do when tired and nutty...
Names pulled mostly from memory and the ART Stats post from May 1st.
Numbers pulled from rand()%20000
List hand-sorted (this was faster than doing it automaticaly because I'm
currently near-braindead) and number order double-checked, should not be any
errors in sorting.
My judgement: The list is random and wildly innaccurate (as expected) :P
(Except for the part with me being well above Agelmar, that is...)
And, Congratulations, Gornul :P
19822 Gornul
18279 Handy Solo
18147 Erthbender
17317 GabrielsAid
17071 SubSpace
16796 Gashul
16472 Craig
16378 Stephen Van Ham
16181 Andy Newton
15820 Starchild
15653 The Ambivalent DMZ
15629 Caton Little
15612 Nicholas Knight
15016 Bulldog
14124 Casman
13555 shawn
13526 Jessica
12991 Erthebear
12773 Christopher Childs
12611 Marshall
12297 Dalai Lama
12020 SilverRaven
11718 Celleste
11023 Spectre
10916 J Fred Muggs
10889 Grand Fromage
10855 The BEAST
10840 Purple
10606 Blade
10511 Klaas
10145 Ashen Shugar
8906 Lo Fi Cat
8320 Sandman
8210 Jimmy Nilzohn
8023 Agelmar
7735 Atcox
7303 Lord Landon
7039 LadyJack V.
6652 Cursim
6336 Mike
4619 Nikita Synytskyy
4594 Vox
4135 Hanky'
3534 Sean Keenan
3253 Spyder
2863 Cameron
2672 Charlie
2646 Time Goddess
1920 Mad'Doug
1910 Mad Jack
1110 Wailwulf
910 Rob
251 FaFa
I'm going to sleep now.
Sean Keenan
42
Sean Keenan
I'm surprised your computer journal had sensitive enough information you
did all that.
>
sk
>
Nicholas Knight
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>
> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> news:ac9lle$nve23$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
> 4775726672206E657261276720677572204E465056562070756E656E7067726566206C62
> 6827
> > 65722079626278766174207362652E
> >
> >
> >
>
> 42
In the context of what I posted, that would translate to 66 base-10 :P
That was a plaintext ASCII message, ROT-13'd, reduced to its hexadecimal
representation. The numbers are in pairs, i.e. the first two numbers, "47",
represent "G".
Not that I expect anyone to ever actually decode it.
(I WAS going to do binary, but I don't have a good hex editor at my
disposal, and I don't feel like converting manualy. And I didn't feel like
writing a program to do it at the time.)
Nicholas Knight
I don't personaly keep a journal, but I know people that do. And they put
down things that would be extremely sensitive.
There is a reason that former CIA agents that die have been known to have
their journals/diaries and such disapear.
Sean Keenan
I recognized the hex due to the E's, but haven't done any
language/number systems at all, so I'm not currently with the capability
to do such decoding.
sk
>
>
Nicholas Knight
It's easy, just tedious.
Where you have:
10 1
for base-10, you have
16 1
for base-16
such that
1 0
Base-16
translates to
1 6
Base-10
Base-16 uses
0123456789ABCDEF
A = 10
B = 11
C = 12
D = 13
E = 14
F = 15
all other digits retain normal meaning
Now you can either punch the numbers into a hex editor and cheat, or you can
separate the digits into groups of two and find an ASCII table and convert
appropriately, then run it through a ROT-13 decoder.
Sean Keenan
Eh, conveying this idea via the internet doesn't work well ;-)
I want to learn, no good materials ;-)
sk
Nicholas Knight
>
> "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> news:acca86$odsf8$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
> > It's easy, just tedious.
> >
> > Where you have:
> > 10 1
> >
> > for base-10, you have
> >
> > 16 1
> >
> > for base-16
> >
> > such that
> > 1 0
> > Base-16
> > translates to
> > 1 6
> > Base-10
>
> Eh, conveying this idea via the internet doesn't work well ;-)
>
> I want to learn, no good materials ;-)
http://www.northwestern.edu/musicschool/links/projects/midi/pages/undstdbh.h
tml
Sean Keenan
> "Sean Keenan" <x4ya...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Nicholas Knight" <nkn...@pocketinet.com> wrote in message
> > news:ac9lle$nve23$1...@ID-132594.news.dfncis.de...
>
> >
4775726672206E657261276720677572204E465056562070756E656E7067726566206C62
> > 6827
> > > 65722079626278766174207362652E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 42
>
> In the context of what I posted, that would translate to 66 base-10 :P
> That was a plaintext ASCII message, ROT-13'd, reduced to its
hexadecimal
> representation. The numbers are in pairs, i.e. the first two numbers,
"47",
> represent "G".
Ok I looked at the website- it makes sense.
(4x16)+(7x1) = 71... 71 = G ?
71-26-26 = 15 = O is the closest I could understand that.
Oh wait.. nope that's T. Hmm...
sk