Itinerary to see United States
Ilya Shambat
States, here's your travel itinerary from someone who has seen the
entire country. This itinerary is designed to create the most complete
experience of the United States possible. Of course you can pick and
choose what you'd like to see.
Land in Boston. Rent a car there. Spend 2 days in Boston and 1 day in
Salem. In Boston, see the city center and spend some time in Harvard
campus and in bookstores around Harvard. In Salem, visit the witch
shops.
Boston to New York. Spend 3 days in New York. Visit Metropolitan
Museum of Art, Statue of Liberty, Wall Street, Empire State Building.
Spend evenings in the Greenwich Village, going to jazz clubs and
seeing performances. If you have money go to restaurants, there are
fabulous restaurants in the city, and see performances on Broadway.
Also visit Brooklyn.
New York to Philadelphia. Just 1 day in Philadelphia is all that you
need, to see the Liberty Bell and the hall in which Declaration of
Independence was written.
Philadelphia to DC. 3 days in DC, to see the Smithsonian and the zoo,
both awesome, and visit the monuments. Visit Georgetown. Go to Kramer
Books on Dupont Circle and Saloon Jazz Club in Georgetown on M St,
where there is live jazz every day of the week. There are also open
mike poetry readings every day of the week, where energetic black
poets perform. The schedule is: Bar Nun on Monday; Mango's on Tuesday;
Bohemian Caverns restaurant (awesome architecture) on Wednesdays;
Javahead Cafe on Thursdays; Bud's on Friday; Urban Energy on Saturday;
and Whitlow's on Sunday.
DC to Savannah. Spend 1 day in Savannah looking at mansions and
absorbing the SOuthern culture.
Savannah to Florida. In Florida, you can visit Orlando if you would
like; you could visit Miami if you would like; and if you are like me
you would head straight down to Key West, where the water is warm all
year round and the people are friendly and chickens walk on the
streets.
Key West to New Orleans. Spend 2 days in New Orleans. Visit French
Quarter, the Jesuit University and the mansion neighborhood (I forgot
the name, but Anne Rice lives there). It is a beautiful city.
New Orleans to Austin, TX. 1 day in Austin is good enough; the town is
pretty and has good people.
Austin, TX to Santa Fe, NM. Spend 1 day in Santa Fe and go to New Age
shops and cafes. It is a pretty place.
Santa Fe to Taos. Spend 1 day in Taos, visit the Taos Pueblo and dine
at the Native American restaurant on the way to the Pueblo.
Taos to Denver, CO. Spend 1 day in Colorado Springs visiting the
springs and skiing, 1 day in Denver and 2 days in Boulder, that jewel
of America. In Boulder, take a evening trip to Nederland, stop on the
side of the lake and watch the stars. Eat at Nepalese and Tibetan
restaurants. Visit bookstores and cafes and sleep in youth hostels.
Denver to Salt Lake City. The most gorgeous drive in the United
States, the drive from Denver to Salt Lake City snakes along the
bottom of Colorado River Gorge. There are ski resorts on the sides and
small mining towns. Make sure to fuel up before going into Utah, as
there are no stopping points for a long distance there. Spend 1 day in
Salt Lake City looking at the cathedrals and visiting the Mormon
religious centers.
Salt Lake City to Moab. Visit Bryce Canyon along the way, a stunning
landscape of protruding red rocks. Spend however much you'd like in
Moab hiking, biking and otherwise enjoying the free wilderness.
Moab to Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon is worth a day.
Grand Canyon to Sedona. Sedona is absolutely incredible. Besides its
unbelievable natural beauty, it also has richness of creative thought.
Take a helicopter tour of the area or the jeep tour and visit the
shops.
From Sedona, you can either head south to Tucson or east to Las Vegas.
What city to visit, depends on your taste. Las Vegas has glamorous
architecture and shows and casinos; Tucson is intimate and artistic.
If you should go to Tucson, visit Solar Culture art gallery.
Next stop is Los Angeles. Forget San Diego, it's beautiful but not
interesting. In Los Angeles, visit Hollywood Blvd and Melrose Ave.
Also visit Long Beach.
Take a coastal drive to Santa Barbara and spend 1 day in Santa
Barbara. It is a gorgeous town.
Continue with coastal drive to Big Sur and spend a day hiking in the
forests along the ocean.
Continue on to Carmel and Monterey, both beautiful towns, each
deserving about a day.
Continue to San Francisco. San Francisco is worth 3 days. Places to
see are: the Haight, Club 838 Divisadero, Soma neighborhood
nightclubs, the art museum in the main park and the surrounding area
where usually bands play, Portero Hill and Sunset neighborhoods and
the Wharf.
Take a two-day trip to Yosemite Park or Lake Tahoe. Come back to San
Francisco.
On to Mill Valley and Sausalito, which are a paradise on earth and
together worth about a day or two.
On to Sonoma. Spend 2 days in the Sonoma Valley. It is another
paradise on earth. Cafes and hotels are picturesque and comfortable,
and restaurants play jazz music.
From Sonoma, take Rt 1 up to Portland. See redwoods, drive through a
drive-thru tree and stop at a petting zoo. See small coastal towns,
each of which has its own character. In Portland, visit Powell's
Bookstore. Portland is worth about 1 day.
From Portland up to Seattle. Seattle has a thriving club culture, most
of which is found in the university neighborhood. Interesting things
are also found on the Capitol Street. The Market by the oceanside is
incredible, full of cafes and shops of all kinds; artists often sell
beautiful work there. On a rare sunny day, Seattle is magnificent.
Spend 2 days there.
From Seattle, go through Montana and then south to Wyoming. From
Wyoming, go east into the Southwestern South Dakota, which is probably
the most interesting area in the United States. In close proximity
there can be found: Mount Rushmore, where the faces of United States
presidents are carved out of a mountain; the Crazyhorse Monument and
center, a gigantic work in progress, a masterwork of a single sculptor
who has undertaken to create out of a mountain a 500-foot monument of
a Native American chief on a horse; beautiful caverns; national parks
where buffalo lie on the ground and walk next to cars; dynosaur
remnants; Indian reservations that play awesome music on the radio;
and ghost towns from the Gold Rush era. This area is worth two to
three days.
Go East to Chicago. Spend 2 days in Chicago. Go at the top of the
Sears Tower, visit the arts museum and go dining in restaurants in
Chicago.
Further east to Niagara Falls. Spend 1 day there.
Niagara Falls to Woodstock, NY. Visit Woodstock art galleries and
theaters in the area, which includes the following towns: Rhine Cliff,
Poughkeepsie and Kingston.
And then back to Boston.
David
wrote:
>New Orleans to Austin, TX. 1 day in Austin is good enough; the town is
>pretty and has good people.
I had to add one thing. If you like wildlife, Austin has one of the
largest urban populations of bats. Whenever I'm in Austin, visiting
family, we try to get to the bridge (I don't know which one, ask
around) before sunset. There's always a crowd of folks watching from a
couple of nearby parking lots, on top of the bridge, and even from
kayaks and canoes. The bats circle under the bridge, trying to get
energy and numbers, then go streaming out into the sky to hunt.
Just fantastic!
(sorry, I had to cut alt.travel because my ISP sucks)
BrendaLee
Cool. I would love to see a number of them at once.
Bats are quite interesting.
I lived by a lake growing up and whenever we were out in the canoe they
would be swirling around your head at dusk.
My older sister and I were riding bikes once. We had long loose hair
which was blowing in the breeze. Suddenly my sister starting screaming
and there was this shriking noise. A bat had gotten tangled in her hair.
She was freaking out, it was freaking out.
It could have been a scene from a horror movie.
:)
Another time at the cottage a bat came down the chimney and it was
hanging onto the fencing material that holds the logs within. We got a
light and inspected it very closely. Being that it was facing us we got
to see the underbelly, and the way the wings are attached to the
limbs.They are an awefully grusome looking inhabitant of this earth, but
they have their purpose..
Doing wonders to keep mosquitoes to a minimum.
BrendaLee
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BrendaLee
I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
to do Carlsbad Caverns.
Missed Mt. Rushmore as well. Did Hoover Dam though. Want to hike down
into the Grand Canyon, though I did stop there for a few hours.
Yellowstone and the Geysers were pretty cool too. I enjoyed the trip up
to the Continental Divide. Went in June and there was a snow storm at
the top. Flying down the other side and slipping off outer clothing was
a
lot of fun. That would be my kind of winter.
I loved Palo Alto.
It is like my own home town but like that over 3/4 of the time more than
I get here.
Will hike more next time. Also will do more driving through them flat
states while at night. And make up for it driving only in the day in the
nicer ones. :)
Will do many redwood forests. Lovely place to be. And I got off on Route
One along the Pacific Ocean. Picturesque. The Pacific is not as
user-friendly as the
Atlantic Ocean though. IMO.
I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
Birds that only had one wing, etc.
It is so enjoyable travelling.
bob
>I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
>missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
>to do Carlsbad Caverns.
We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
>I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
>Birds that only had one wing, etc.
Did you check out any of the places where they have gators? I always
thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
them.
BrendaLee
bob wrote:
>
> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
>
> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
Well that .. sucked. Heh..
I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
it was a treat for me.
>
> >I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
> >Birds that only had one wing, etc.
>
> Did you check out any of the places where they have gators?
Not commercially. See below. It was much more natural and in a wild-like
state where they are just doing their thing. And you get to watch.
Unless you get too close and then you might find yourself doing their
thing with them. I like animals and insects and stuff even though some
are rather pesty at times, so I like any of the animal places where you
can watch them in their habitat. The more natural the better, naturally.
:)
My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
they played along and let us think they were.
> I always
> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
> them.
You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
We had one slinking along right at us with just it's eyes showing. You
knew better than to take your eyes off that one.
It was interesting to watch.
Hope she wants to see them.
bob
wrote:
>
>
>bob wrote:
>>
>> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
>> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
>> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
>>
>> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
>> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
>
>Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
Why?
>Well that .. sucked. Heh..
What?
>I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
>the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
>they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
>it was a treat for me.
How?
>> >I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
>> >Birds that only had one wing, etc.
>>
>> Did you check out any of the places where they have gators?
>
>Not commercially. See below. It was much more natural and in a wild-like
>state where they are just doing their thing. And you get to watch.
>Unless you get too close and then you might find yourself doing their
>thing with them. I like animals and insects and stuff even though some
>are rather pesty at times, so I like any of the animal places where you
>can watch them in their habitat. The more natural the better, naturally.
>:)
Where?
>My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
>field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
>our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
>they played along and let us think they were.
Who?
>> I always
>> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
>> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
>> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
>> them.
>
>You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
>lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
>sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
>with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
>running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
>that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
>grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
>can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
>other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
There are no fences where I go to see them. I've canoed over top of
one and have had a couple swimming next to my canoe. Alligator Alley
is quite a drive from here. I was thinking more along the lines of a
park right here in town. Or, if I have loads of energy, we'll drive 10
miles north along the river to a park that has a good path along the
side of the river.
BrendaLee
bob wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:26:16 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >bob wrote:
> >>
> >> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
> >> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
> >> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
> >>
> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
> >
> >Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
>
> Why?
Because you never specified which place of the three you missed.
>
> >Well that .. sucked. Heh..
>
> What?
Missing out because of the plane.
>
> >I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
> >the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
> >they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
> >it was a treat for me.
>
> How?
I despise the color grey. When the sky melds into the horizon for a
number of months a year and you cannot tell much of a difference betwixt
them it is altogether too much grey. For me anyway.
I can sit and just stare out the window at all the lushness and green
everywhere.
>
> >> >I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
> >> >Birds that only had one wing, etc.
> >>
> >> Did you check out any of the places where they have gators?
> >
> >Not commercially. See below. It was much more natural and in a wild-like
> >state where they are just doing their thing. And you get to watch.
> >Unless you get too close and then you might find yourself doing their
> >thing with them. I like animals and insects and stuff even though some
> >are rather pesty at times, so I like any of the animal places where you
> >can watch them in their habitat. The more natural the better, naturally.
> >:)
>
> Where?
Where the grass is green and the sky is a blue blaze. Where the warm
breezes caress your face and skin.
That's where.
>
> >My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
> >field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
> >our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
> >they played along and let us think they were.
>
> Who?
Those who remind me of a time long gone by.
>
> >> I always
> >> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
> >> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
> >> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
> >> them.
> >
> >You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
> >lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
> >sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
> >with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
> >running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
> >that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
> >grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
> >can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
> >other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
>
> There are no fences where I go to see them. I've canoed over top of
> one and have had a couple swimming next to my canoe.
I don think that is a wise idea for me. Wouldn't want to have to make
like Crocodile Dundee.
> Alligator Alley
> is quite a drive from here.
I've no idea where you live.
> I was thinking more along the lines of a
> park right here in town.
Okay.
> Or, if I have loads of energy, we'll drive 10
> miles north along the river to a park that has a good path along the
> side of the river.
I saw some internet skits of them. And boy can they haul ass. They are
faster than I ever imagined. Just know that if you are trying to outrun
them do not run in a straight line. Make many lateral movements.
It is their weakness.
bob
wrote:
>
>
>bob wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:26:16 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >bob wrote:
>> >>
>> >> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
>> >> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
>> >> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
>> >>
>> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
>> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
>> >
>> >Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
>>
>> Why?
>
>Because you never specified which place of the three you missed.
It should have been obvious. Here's a hint. I've been to both Sedona
and New Mexico and ... here's an even better hint. Read the sentence
you wrote that immediately precedes my response.
>> >Well that .. sucked. Heh..
>>
>> What?
>
>Missing out because of the plane.
What plane?
>> >I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
>> >the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
>> >they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
>> >it was a treat for me.
>>
>> How?
>
>I despise the color grey. When the sky melds into the horizon for a
>number of months a year and you cannot tell much of a difference betwixt
>them it is altogether too much grey. For me anyway.
It's grey here this time of year.
A band I listed to in college wrote a song called Grey Days.
The refrain goes like this:
"Well I've been a lonely man
and I've had my friends
I've traveled many miles
and headed home again
I love the seasons
both winter cold and heat
There is one November night
never will repeat'
I'm pretty sure it was about his wife (who was a music teacher of
mine) leaving him.
>I can sit and just stare out the window at all the lushness and green
>everywhere.
I like to read.
(think - Chauncy Gardener)
"A garden needs a lot of care and a lot of love and if you give your
garden a lot of love, things grow...but first some things must wither,
some trees and fresh young saplings take their place and for this
reason, you can watch that garden become very beautiful."
For some reason I'm thinking about Ilya now.
>> >> >I found a zoo-like place in Florida where all the animals were rescued.
>> >> >Birds that only had one wing, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Did you check out any of the places where they have gators?
>> >
>> >Not commercially. See below. It was much more natural and in a wild-like
>> >state where they are just doing their thing. And you get to watch.
>> >Unless you get too close and then you might find yourself doing their
>> >thing with them. I like animals and insects and stuff even though some
>> >are rather pesty at times, so I like any of the animal places where you
>> >can watch them in their habitat. The more natural the better, naturally.
>> >:)
>>
>> Where?
>
>Where the grass is green and the sky is a blue blaze. Where the warm
>breezes caress your face and skin.
>That's where.
"I'm not harmonic
I can't reach self-esteem
That's quite ironic
Coz I thought I'd be living my dream
I don't feel supersonic
I don't drive in the lane of whipped cream
I'm more like a chronic
Ignorantly swimming upstream
What can I do to be happy?
I have problems to decide
When it looks to me the grass is greener
On the other side
How do I live for the moment
When I always wanna be else where?
How do I reach fullfilment
When I'm crashed and got parts to repair?
Why is my only amusement
Giving other people my despair?
Why do I give jealous judgement
On another's affair?
I wanna get satisfaction just like
The Stones and Manu Chao
Gotta ignore all rejection
I gotta keep trying anyhow
I wanna be close to the action
I wann live my life now
For htis correction I need direction
Gotta find it within myself somehow
So maybe one day I'll be happy?!
But until then I have to realize
That the grass is not always greener
It's only up to me to recognize
That the grass is not always greener
It's in your head it might look grenner
Coz the grass will never be greener
On the other side"
Did you know that "Home on the Range" is the official state song of
Kansas?
>> >My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
>> >field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
>> >our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
>> >they played along and let us think they were.
>>
>> Who?
>
>Those who remind me of a time long gone by.
The 80's?
>> >> I always
>> >> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
>> >> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
>> >> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
>> >> them.
>> >
>> >You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
>> >lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
>> >sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
>> >with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
>> >running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
>> >that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
>> >grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
>> >can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
>> >other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
>>
>> There are no fences where I go to see them. I've canoed over top of
>> one and have had a couple swimming next to my canoe.
>
>I don think that is a wise idea for me. Wouldn't want to have to make
>like Crocodile Dundee.
They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
kayak. I guess it looked small enough to eat. We're going kayaking a
local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>> Alligator Alley
>> is quite a drive from here.
>
>I've no idea where you live.
I live in Florida.
>> I was thinking more along the lines of a
>> park right here in town.
>
>Okay.
A 10 footer was hanging out just off the riverbank a few weeks ago
when my sons were attending their cub scout crossing over ceremony.
The kids looked at it for a bit then started catching really big
frogs. A month ago or so we swam within site of one at a place called
Salt Springs. The kids were more interested in the otter we saw.
Otters move around a lot more.
http://www.orlandofloridamotels.com/springs/saltsprings.asp
That's the place.We were going to go to Juniper Springs
http://floridatraveler.com/travel_articles/juniper-springs.htm
but they didn't have any RV sites or something (my inlaws were camping
with us).
>> Or, if I have loads of energy, we'll drive 10
>> miles north along the river to a park that has a good path along the
>> side of the river.
>
>I saw some internet skits of them. And boy can they haul ass. They are
>faster than I ever imagined. Just know that if you are trying to outrun
>them do not run in a straight line. Make many lateral movements.
>
>It is their weakness.
heh
They don't chase people very often and they can't run very far. They
are fast for about 25 feet then they get tired. You'd be lucky to
remember to move sideways if an alligator tore out of the water in
your general direction.
I hear they like dogs and cats!
John Fereira
news:gp93iv0dh6eh93qt0...@4ax.com:
>
> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
> kayak. I guess it looked small enough to eat. We're going kayaking a
> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
Is it a single or tandem kayak? 18' isn't particularly big for a tandem
kayak. On the other hand, one of my single touring kayaks is 18' 6" long.
http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/northbay/fullview2.jpg
And this one is 17'10" long (and only 21" wide)
http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/outerisland/launch11.gif
bob
>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>news:gp93iv0dh6eh93qt0...@4ax.com:
>
>
>>
>> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
>> kayak. I guess it looked small enough to eat. We're going kayaking a
>> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
>> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
>> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
>> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>
>Is it a single or tandem kayak? 18' isn't particularly big for a tandem
>kayak. On the other hand, one of my single touring kayaks is 18' 6" long.
Single. We looked into buying a tandem last year. We bought a minivan
instead.
>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/northbay/fullview2.jpg
>And this one is 17'10" long (and only 21" wide)
>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/outerisland/launch11.gif
I'm jealous. Would you mind sending one here?
BrendaLee
bob wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:51:32 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >bob wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:26:16 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >bob wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
> >> >> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
> >> >> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
> >> >>
> >> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
> >> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
> >> >
> >> >Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
> >>
> >> Why?
> >
> >Because you never specified which place of the three you missed.
>
> It should have been obvious.
Whatever.
> >> >Well that .. sucked. Heh..
> >>
> >> What?
> >
> >Missing out because of the plane.
>
> What plane?
> >> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
> >> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
That plane. You know. Your plane leaving before you saw it.
I've heard C.Caverns are pretty cool.
>
> >> >I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
> >> >the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
> >> >they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
> >> >it was a treat for me.
> >>
> >> How?
> >
> >I despise the color grey. When the sky melds into the horizon for a
> >number of months a year and you cannot tell much of a difference betwixt
> >them it is altogether too much grey. For me anyway.
>
> It's grey here this time of year.
Why
Would
Florida
be
grey?
> A band I listed to in college wrote a song called Grey Days.
>
> The refrain goes like this:
>
> "Well I've been a lonely man
> and I've had my friends
> I've traveled many miles
> and headed home again
> I love the seasons
> both winter cold and heat
> There is one November night
> never will repeat'
>
> I'm pretty sure it was about his wife (who was a music teacher of
> mine) leaving him.
Heh. Many songs traipse along them lines.
>
> >I can sit and just stare out the window at all the lushness and green
> >everywhere.
>
> I like to read.
I am just beginning to allow myself the right to sit and read.. [Long
story]. But it is nice and I am enjoying it immensely. I enjoy reading
myself. So much so that I have amassed a collection of well over 100
books now I have yet to read. I have like a mini bookstore. Heh..
Still, I like the outdoors and so enjoy getting on my knees in front of
an open window just smelling the fresh air. Trying to breathe it in. It
lasts such a short time.
>
> (think - Chauncy Gardener)
>
> "A garden needs a lot of care and a lot of love and if you give your
> garden a lot of love, things grow...but first some things must wither,
> some trees and fresh young saplings take their place and for this
> reason, you can watch that garden become very beautiful."
The cycle of life and death is to be respected.
I appreciate all the greens of trees/brush and running creek water.
Sometimes I enjoy taking a blanket out in the back yard, laying in my
bathingsuit catching some rays while I read. Birds, and creek water
running aside it is a very peaceful place to be. I designed the
landscaping as to have maximum privacy, maximum wildlife.
It almost always never is. It is just the nature of the beast to think
so.
>
> How do I live for the moment
> When I always wanna be else where?
> How do I reach fullfilment
> When I'm crashed and got parts to repair?
> Why is my only amusement
> Giving other people my despair?
> Why do I give jealous judgement
> On another's affair?
>
> I wanna get satisfaction just like
> The Stones and Manu Chao
> Gotta ignore all rejection
> I gotta keep trying anyhow
> I wanna be close to the action
> I wann live my life now
> For htis correction I need direction
> Gotta find it within myself somehow
>
> So maybe one day I'll be happy?!
> But until then I have to realize
> That the grass is not always greener
> It's only up to me to recognize
> That the grass is not always greener
> It's in your head it might look grenner
> Coz the grass will never be greener
> On the other side"
>
Interesting words.
> Did you know that "Home on the Range" is the official state song of
> Kansas?
>
Nope.
> >> >My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
> >> >field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
> >> >our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
> >> >they played along and let us think they were.
> >>
> >> Who?
> >
> >Those who remind me of a time long gone by.
>
> The 80's?
No. The 80's are not a time long gone by for me. I have access to them
at my fingertips, musically anyway. I have to say I enjoyed the 90's
much more though! It's true.
>
> >> >> I always
> >> >> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
> >> >> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
> >> >> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
> >> >> them.
> >> >
> >> >You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
> >> >lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
> >> >sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
> >> >with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
> >> >running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
> >> >that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
> >> >grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
> >> >can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
> >> >other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
> >>
> >> There are no fences where I go to see them. I've canoed over top of
> >> one and have had a couple swimming next to my canoe.
> >
> >I don think that is a wise idea for me. Wouldn't want to have to make
> >like Crocodile Dundee.
>
> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
> kayak.
Oh great. Was he okay?
> I guess it looked small enough to eat.
That's the thing about wild animals. It is always about food with 'em.
> We're going kayaking a
> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
Yes, it really does make a difference. :) I rented a kayak once. No lie,
this was really a nasty kayak. It didn't even hold a straight line. Kept
veering off to one side. Had to constantly correct it.
The better the kayak the nicer the ride. No doubt!
>
> >> Alligator Alley
> >> is quite a drive from here.
> >
> >I've no idea where you live.
>
> I live in Florida.
I see.
> >> I was thinking more along the lines of a
> >> park right here in town.
> >
> >Okay.
>
> A 10 footer was hanging out just off the riverbank a few weeks ago
> when my sons were attending their cub scout crossing over ceremony.
> The kids looked at it for a bit then started catching really big
> frogs.
Yep. When something is commonplace you tend to lose that amazing sense
of what is before your eyes. Sad fact of life.
> A month ago or so we swam within site of one at a place called
> Salt Springs. The kids were more interested in the otter we saw.
> Otters move around a lot more.
All I will say to this:
Is
not I...
>
> http://www.orlandofloridamotels.com/springs/saltsprings.asp
>
> That's the place.We were going to go to Juniper Springs
Cool.
> http://floridatraveler.com/travel_articles/juniper-springs.htm
>
> but they didn't have any RV sites or something (my inlaws were camping
> with us).
>
> >> Or, if I have loads of energy, we'll drive 10
> >> miles north along the river to a park that has a good path along the
> >> side of the river.
> >
> >I saw some internet skits of them. And boy can they haul ass. They are
> >faster than I ever imagined. Just know that if you are trying to outrun
> >them do not run in a straight line. Make many lateral movements.
> >
> >It is their weakness.
>
> heh
I saw another skit of them where people were hanging on a role and
shimmying across a pool of them and they were literally jumping straight
up in the air to get them by the butt and pull them into their water.
And they were snapping the entire time.
>
> They don't chase people very often and they can't run very far.
Perhaps, but they can run fast.
> They
> are fast for about 25 feet then they get tired.
If my legs were nice enough to carry me in the event of a chase I wonder
how long I could keep them moving before they decided to give out from
under me ...shaking as they would be.
> You'd be lucky to
> remember to move sideways if an alligator tore out of the water in
> your general direction.
hee....
I would be lucky not to be leaving a noticeable trail were I to find
myself in that predicament.
>
> I hear they like dogs and cats!
That's the thing about this food chain of ours. It is really not all
that picky when it comes right down to it.
Eats are eats.
BrendaLee
John Fereira
news:cr65ivgitl3bmsroe...@4ax.com:
I'll send the Northbay but you'll have to send me $1400 first. It's for
sale. I also have another fiberglass touring kayak, a whitewater kayak, and
a canoe. I'm trying to sell the Northbay and fiberglass boat and replace
them with a high performance fiberglass boat. I mostly paddle the Outer
Island now (I used it yesterday to help teach a lesson) but it is a low
volume boat so won't carry much gear for a long trip nor would I want to
paddle it in the surf zone or rivers up to class II. Even though I built
the Outer Island and can maintain it myself I wouldn't want to break it in
the surf zone.
John Fereira
news:3F23497B...@rochester.rr.com:
>
>
>
>> We're going kayaking a
>> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
>> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
>> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
>> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>
> Yes, it really does make a difference. :) I rented a kayak once. No
> lie, this was really a nasty kayak. It didn't even hold a straight
> line. Kept veering off to one side. Had to constantly correct it.
That's almost always caused by poor technique rather than the design or a
flaw in the kayak. Let me guess, it would always turn to the left. That's
happens because the paddle position isn't symetrical. It is very common for
beginning paddlers to place the paddle on the left side with the top edge of
the blade leaning forward instead of tilted slightly back as it should be.
Getting the correct blade angle on the right side (if you're right handed)
is easy because just holding the paddle correctly puts it into the right
position. When the top edge of the paddle blade is tilted slightly forward
on the left it tends to scoop into the water (like you were taking a scoop
of ice cream out of a container) instead of provide power forward. The
result is that the stroke on the right side is stronger than on the left and
you'll turn to the left.
>
> The better the kayak the nicer the ride. No doubt!
>
Definately. Kayaks constructed of fiberglass, kevlar, or wood (actually
fiberglass over wood) are stiffer and can have finer lines than a less
expensive polyethelene boat. The result is that they're more efficient and
will give a longer glide. Longer boats have a greater wetted surface which
results in a higher potential hull speed. Typically, the lower priced entry
level kayaks are short and wide for easier manoeveribity and higher
stability (which most beginners seem to feel is the highest priority).
Short, wide boats are also much slower, and don't track as well as longer
boats.
bob
wrote:
>
>
>bob wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:51:32 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >bob wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:26:16 GMT, BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >bob wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BrendaLee <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I did a month across the country trip. Next time I need 2 months. I
>> >> >> >missed Sedona and New Mexico. Drove through it at night. Would also like
>> >> >> >to do Carlsbad Caverns.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
>> >> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
>> >> >
>> >> >Which are you referring to? Sedona, New Mexico, or Carlsbad Caverns?
>> >>
>> >> Why?
>> >
>> >Because you never specified which place of the three you missed.
>>
>> It should have been obvious.
>
>Whatever.
Are you related to Bruce?
>> >> >Well that .. sucked. Heh..
>> >>
>> >> What?
>> >
>> >Missing out because of the plane.
>>
>> What plane?
>
>> >> >> We were going to go there in May of 2002 but we realized Friday night
>> >> >> that our plane left on Saturday not Sunday.
>
>That plane. You know. Your plane leaving before you saw it.
Ah, I see. I must be spending too much time with Bruce. Perhaps you
and have Asperger's Syndrome. If not, maybe we could buy it somewhere.
Do you have any room on your credit cards?
>I've heard C.Caverns are pretty cool.
The brochures look cool.
>> >> >I enjoyed that trip immensely. Am saving to do it again. It was fun in
>> >> >the mountains in the west. I loved that red color in the rocks. Suppose
>> >> >they get tired of it living there and all, but looking at grey so much
>> >> >it was a treat for me.
>> >>
>> >> How?
>> >
>> >I despise the color grey. When the sky melds into the horizon for a
>> >number of months a year and you cannot tell much of a difference betwixt
>> >them it is altogether too much grey. For me anyway.
>>
>> It's grey here this time of year.
>
>Why
>Would
>Florida
>be
>grey?
It's the rainy season. Subtropics and all. The sky is blue this
morning. It's been a while. It'll probably cloud up again this
afternoon. I should go outside. I probably won't.
>> >I can sit and just stare out the window at all the lushness and green
>> >everywhere.
>>
>> I like to read.
>
>I am just beginning to allow myself the right to sit and read.. [Long
>story]. But it is nice and I am enjoying it immensely. I enjoy reading
>myself. So much so that I have amassed a collection of well over 100
>books now I have yet to read. I have like a mini bookstore. Heh..
Are you a compulsive shopper? I bought 2 books this week and got 4 at
the library on Monday of last week. I've got 5 pages left to read on
the 5th book from the mini collection. I'll probably head to the
library today or tomorrow to restock.
>Still, I like the outdoors and so enjoy getting on my knees in front of
>an open window just smelling the fresh air. Trying to breathe it in. It
>lasts such a short time.
heh
She said "getting on my knees".
>> (think - Chauncy Gardener)
>>
>> "A garden needs a lot of care and a lot of love and if you give your
>> garden a lot of love, things grow...but first some things must wither,
>> some trees and fresh young saplings take their place and for this
>> reason, you can watch that garden become very beautiful."
>
>The cycle of life and death is to be respected.
I like to read.
>I appreciate all the greens of trees/brush and running creek water.
I appreciate a good omelet. My wife said, a few minutes ago, that she
was going to make my Sunday omelet soon. In a couple of minutes I'm
going to yell "where the hell are you" or maybe I'll be sweeter than
that. "Honey, are you hiding? Are you planning on making the omelet
this week or next?
I guess sweetness doesn't sit well with me. We bought mushrooms
yesterday. I'm looking forward to this week's omelet. Most mornings I
make breakfast (I make lunch most days too).This is my special day.
>Sometimes I enjoy taking a blanket out in the back yard, laying in my
>bathingsuit catching some rays while I read. Birds, and creek water
>running aside it is a very peaceful place to be. I designed the
>landscaping as to have maximum privacy, maximum wildlife.
Sounds nice. Our yard is not suited for sunbathing. It's not very
large and the trampoline pretty much fills up the back yard. We put
the turtle pool underneath the trampoline. The only neat stuff we have
growing in the yard are the habeneros (I think they are neat, at
least), the aloe plants, and the scraggly rose bush in the front yard
that produces one pretty pink rose at a time. We have lots of lizards
though.
>> Did you know that "Home on the Range" is the official state song of
>> Kansas?
>Nope.
Now you do!
>
>> >> >My brother and I used to collect lots of praying mantis in the grassy
>> >> >field at the end of our steet as kids. We would walk along with them on
>> >> >our shoulders like they were pets. Whether or not they were into it,
>> >> >they played along and let us think they were.
>> >>
>> >> Who?
>> >
>> >Those who remind me of a time long gone by.
>>
>> The 80's?
>
>No. The 80's are not a time long gone by for me. I have access to them
>at my fingertips, musically anyway. I have to say I enjoyed the 90's
>much more though! It's true.
I didn't listen to much music in the 90's. I caught up on some of it
in 2000. I didn't listen to much 80's music in the 80's. I started the
decade listening to 60's music (I listened to 70's music in the 70's)
then I started listening to jazz. I pretty much stopped listening to
music in 1986 because my ex and I had such different musical tastes.
>> >> >> I always
>> >> >> thought that was funny. It's pretty easy to see a gator in Florida.
>> >> >> We'll probably take my daughter's friend to the river to see them. If
>> >> >> she's interested, that is. This time of year you can see loads of
>> >> >> them.
>> >> >
>> >> >You want to see gators..? Check out Alligator Alley which runs from the
>> >> >lower east to west side of Florida. You will see hundreds of them
>> >> >sunning on the banks of a waterway. Funny, as scared as I am of animals
>> >> >with teeth, I yelled stop! Please stop!!! And jumped out of the car
>> >> >running down a grassy embankment to see them up closer, never realizing
>> >> >that one might have easily gotten on the other side of the fence.. The
>> >> >grass was tall enough I would have never seen 'em coming. Oh well, ya
>> >> >can't take all the excitement away. It was my first time seeing them
>> >> >other than in the zoo. And there were lots of them. Big too.
>> >>
>> >> There are no fences where I go to see them. I've canoed over top of
>> >> one and have had a couple swimming next to my canoe.
>> >
>> >I don think that is a wise idea for me. Wouldn't want to have to make
>> >like Crocodile Dundee.
>>
>> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
>> kayak.
>
>Oh great. Was he okay?
He lived.
http://www.clubkayak.com/tbsk/messages/91.html
http://www.boatingchannel.com/html/marine_news_today_-_year_in_re.html#Alligator
>> I guess it looked small enough to eat.
>
>That's the thing about wild animals. It is always about food with 'em.
Our turtle is getting big enough to take a chunk out of my finger. The
thing isn't all that bright. I put works in and have to show it where
they are.
>> We're going kayaking a
>> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
>> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
>> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
>> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>
>Yes, it really does make a difference. :) I rented a kayak once. No lie,
>this was really a nasty kayak. It didn't even hold a straight line. Kept
>veering off to one side. Had to constantly correct it.
Did it have a rudder? If so, were you using the peddles?
>> http://www.orlandofloridamotels.com/springs/saltsprings.asp
>>
>> That's the place.We were going to go to Juniper Springs
>
>Cool.
It was a good weekend. We go tenting about once a month. It's pretty
wild. 7 of us, 5 tents, food, bedding, stove, etc.
>> >> Or, if I have loads of energy, we'll drive 10
>> >> miles north along the river to a park that has a good path along the
>> >> side of the river.
>> >
>> >I saw some internet skits of them. And boy can they haul ass. They are
>> >faster than I ever imagined. Just know that if you are trying to outrun
>> >them do not run in a straight line. Make many lateral movements.
>> >
>> >It is their weakness.
>>
>> heh
>
>I saw another skit of them where people were hanging on a role and
>shimmying across a pool of them and they were literally jumping straight
>up in the air to get them by the butt and pull them into their water.
>And they were snapping the entire time.
A skit? Were these actual alligators eating people?
>> They don't chase people very often and they can't run very far.
>
>Perhaps, but they can run fast.
Yup. We went out to a park yesterday. The water level was high. I was
a bit concerned at a couple of points as the terrain was perfect for
an alligator ambush, heh. Alligator ambush.
>> They
>> are fast for about 25 feet then they get tired.
>
>If my legs were nice enough to carry me in the event of a chase I wonder
>how long I could keep them moving before they decided to give out from
>under me ...shaking as they would be.
Hey, might as well die a violent death. Why go out with a wimper when
you can go out with a scream?
bob
>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>news:cr65ivgitl3bmsroe...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 26 Jul 2003 13:11:17 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>>>news:gp93iv0dh6eh93qt0...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
>>>> kayak. I guess it looked small enough to eat. We're going kayaking a
>>>> local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have to go
>>>> soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be using are
>>>> big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned. It'll be the
>>>> first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>>>
>>>Is it a single or tandem kayak? 18' isn't particularly big for a
>>>tandem kayak. On the other hand, one of my single touring kayaks is
>>>18' 6" long.
>>
>> Single. We looked into buying a tandem last year. We bought a minivan
>> instead.
>>
>>>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/northbay/fullview2.jpg
>>
>>>And this one is 17'10" long (and only 21" wide)
>>
>>>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/outerisland/launch11.gif
>>
>> I'm jealous. Would you mind sending one here?
>I'll send the Northbay but you'll have to send me $1400 first.
I was thinking more on the lines of ... birthday present. If I had the
cash (and you lived close) I'd probably buy it.
> It's for
>sale. I also have another fiberglass touring kayak, a whitewater kayak, and
>a canoe. I'm trying to sell the Northbay and fiberglass boat and replace
>them with a high performance fiberglass boat. I mostly paddle the Outer
>Island now (I used it yesterday to help teach a lesson) but it is a low
>volume boat so won't carry much gear for a long trip nor would I want to
>paddle it in the surf zone or rivers up to class II. Even though I built
>the Outer Island and can maintain it myself I wouldn't want to break it in
>the surf zone.
Are you at Cornell now?
John Fereira
news:jmt7ivgh8khctu63n...@4ax.com:
> On 27 Jul 2003 11:57:32 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>>news:cr65ivgitl3bmsroe...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 26 Jul 2003 13:11:17 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>>>>news:gp93iv0dh6eh93qt0...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't bother canoes but last year some guy got attacked in a
>>>>> kayak. I guess it looked small enough to eat. We're going kayaking
>>>>> a local river soon (we were invited quite a while ago and we have
>>>>> to go soon or the will really be offended)> The kayaks we'll be
>>>>> using are big ones (18 footers) so I'm not all that concerned.
>>>>> It'll be the first time I've ever been in a really nice kayak.
>>>>
>>>>Is it a single or tandem kayak? 18' isn't particularly big for a
>>>>tandem kayak. On the other hand, one of my single touring kayaks is
>>>>18' 6" long.
>>>
>>> Single. We looked into buying a tandem last year. We bought a minivan
>>> instead.
>>>
>>>>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/northbay/fullview2.jpg
>>>
>>>>And this one is 17'10" long (and only 21" wide)
>>>
>>>>http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/outerisland/launch11.gif
>>>
>>> I'm jealous. Would you mind sending one here?
>
>>I'll send the Northbay but you'll have to send me $1400 first.
>
>
> I was thinking more on the lines of ... birthday present.
I appreciate the thought but my birthday isn't until January.
> If I had the
> cash (and you lived close) I'd probably buy it.
I don't know where in Florida you are but I know of a couple of good kayak
shops in Florida that sell used gear. Sweetwater Kayaks in St. Petersburg
and Florida Bay Outfitters in Key Largo are both really good shops. I'll
likely be back for the Sweetwater Kayaking symposium next February.
>
>> It's for
>>sale. I also have another fiberglass touring kayak, a whitewater
>>kayak, and a canoe. I'm trying to sell the Northbay and fiberglass
>>boat and replace them with a high performance fiberglass boat. I
>>mostly paddle the Outer Island now (I used it yesterday to help teach a
>>lesson) but it is a low volume boat so won't carry much gear for a long
>>trip nor would I want to paddle it in the surf zone or rivers up to
>>class II. Even though I built the Outer Island and can maintain it
>>myself I wouldn't want to break it in the surf zone.
>
> Are you at Cornell now?
>
Yes, I've been working here about 6 years.
bob
Mine was a month ago and you didn't send anything. I keep track of
things like that.
>> If I had the
>> cash (and you lived close) I'd probably buy it.
>
>I don't know where in Florida you are but I know of a couple of good kayak
>shops in Florida that sell used gear. Sweetwater Kayaks in St. Petersburg
>and Florida Bay Outfitters in Key Largo are both really good shops. I'll
>likely be back for the Sweetwater Kayaking symposium next February.
Sounds good. When you have a spare hour or two you can drive across
the Howard Fraklin, continue along 275 North till you get to Busch,
head east till you pass Busch Gardens and you'll be almost here. If
I'm not around it's cool to put the kayak in the back yard. The turtle
won't bother you.
>>> It's for
>>>sale. I also have another fiberglass touring kayak, a whitewater
>>>kayak, and a canoe. I'm trying to sell the Northbay and fiberglass
>>>boat and replace them with a high performance fiberglass boat. I
>>>mostly paddle the Outer Island now (I used it yesterday to help teach a
>>>lesson) but it is a low volume boat so won't carry much gear for a long
>>>trip nor would I want to paddle it in the surf zone or rivers up to
>>>class II. Even though I built the Outer Island and can maintain it
>>>myself I wouldn't want to break it in the surf zone.
>>
>> Are you at Cornell now?
>>
>Yes, I've been working here about 6 years.
I like that part of the state. Have you been to the Moosewood? I've
never been but ... I used to have their cookbook! Wow. I just checked
out their website. I wonder if they've considered selling bath mats.
John Fereira
news:cbraiv4oa566r7sle...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> Are you at Cornell now?
>>>
>>Yes, I've been working here about 6 years.
>
> I like that part of the state. Have you been to the Moosewood? I've
> never been but ... I used to have their cookbook! Wow. I just checked
> out their website. I wonder if they've considered selling bath mats.
>
I've been to Moosewood but as far as Ithaca restaurants go there are lots of
others that are much better. They've also got several cookbooks. The
first, by Mollie Katzen, is the original. All of the others are written by
the "Moosewood collective" a group of people that may or may not actually be
associated with the restaurant. BTW, the restaurant is located in the
building where the old Ithaca high school used to be.
bob
>bob <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in
>news:cbraiv4oa566r7sle...@4ax.com:
>
>
>>>>
>>>> Are you at Cornell now?
>>>>
>>>Yes, I've been working here about 6 years.
>>
>> I like that part of the state. Have you been to the Moosewood? I've
>> never been but ... I used to have their cookbook! Wow. I just checked
>> out their website. I wonder if they've considered selling bath mats.
>>
>
>I've been to Moosewood but as far as Ithaca restaurants go there are lots of
>others that are much better. They've also got several cookbooks. The
>first, by Mollie Katzen, is the original.
That's the one I had also.
>All of the others are written by
>the "Moosewood collective" a group of people that may or may not actually be
>associated with the restaurant. BTW, the restaurant is located in the
>building where the old Ithaca high school used to be.
Have you ever had any of the Blood Root Collective cookbooks (the
Political Palate series). I like the stuff on the menu but I used to
tell my ex-wife I would be afraid to eat at their restaurant because
some overzealous customer might consider a certain part of my body
would be put to better use fertilizing corn.
Nutmegger
"bob" wrote:::
> Have you been to the Moosewood? I've
> never been but ... I used to have their cookbook!
I have their original cookbook, and one written by the collective. There
are some great recipes in both of them.
>Wow. I just checked
> out their website. I wonder if they've considered selling bath mats.
Why bath mats?
bob
>> Have you been to the Moosewood? I've
>> never been but ... I used to have their cookbook!
>
>I have their original cookbook, and one written by the collective. There
>are some great recipes in both of them.
I must have been mistaken. I was thinking about the Deerwood Deli and
Diner in Jacksonville and if you've been there I was again mistaken
and I must have been thinking about the nachos and cheese they serve
at the 19th hole at the Elkwood Golf Course in Morganfield, Kentucky.
>
>>Wow. I just checked
>> out their website. I wonder if they've considered selling bath mats.
>
>Why bath mats?
Why not?
Stephanie
see all the beautiful houses along the way and you can take breaks, so
it's worth it. My husband and I really enjoyed the scenery and the
houses on the way up the hill and we didn't have to wait in line to
find a parking space, lol!
A good place to eat in San Francisco is the Crab House--which was on
Pier 39. The price for dinner was reasonable and the weather is
beautiful this time of the year.
The wine train through Sonoma was beautiful--you should try and book
this if you can. The food was awesome, as was the wine, of course!
Stephanie Kalina-Metzger
bob
>You should also climb to Coit Tower---it's quite a hike--but you can
>see all the beautiful houses along the way and you can take breaks, so
>it's worth it. My husband and I really enjoyed the scenery and the
>houses on the way up the hill and we didn't have to wait in line to
>find a parking space, lol!
It is a cool thing to do. When I did it I was a bit stressed because
my jeep kept complaining (loud beeps) that it was nearly out of gas.
The view was more than worth it though.
>A good place to eat in San Francisco is the Crab House--which was on
>Pier 39. The price for dinner was reasonable and the weather is
>beautiful this time of the year.
I've been there also and I agree. Did you have to mention food? Now
I'm hungry again. There isn't anything particularly interesting in the
fridge. Some people can be too cruel.
>The wine train through Sonoma was beautiful--you should try and book
>this if you can. The food was awesome, as was the wine, of course!
I never got around to doing that. I was invited to do it once but ...
I'm too damned asocial to do anything with a group.
David O'Lantern
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