Women Who MURDER (repost from ASD)
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Peter G Dellys wrote:
> If you are anything like me, you may be lost for words.
Not me, actually that is one of the milder "woman who gets pregnant"
stories I've heard.
Now - how's these for some stories! The are all Colorado, and, except
for the first story, all the last 10 years or so.
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http://www.odyssey.on.ca/~balancebeam/wmcrime/women_who_kill.htm
These stories are commonly taken from reports printed in the Denver Post
though other sources have been used as noted. We make no claim that all
female murders of intimate partners are listed although we add them as
we find them. At present (mid 2000), infanticides and neonaticides,
almost exclusively female crimes against children, are not included.
If you know of any female killings we have missed that you think should
be included please contact us.
Colorado's Triangle Murder
With the present hysteria about domestic violence, and tales of how it
was ignored in days of yore before Big Sister brought VAWA to women's
rescue, it is worthwhile to reflect how things were 35-years ago.
On March 6, 1963, Richard Vanausdoll of Denver was murdered in his front
yard with a shotgun. Detectives soon arrested 22-year old Scotty Gene
Carr, who confessed that he killed Vanausdoll because he was in love
with his wife Edna. Scotty insisted Edna had no knowledge of the
shooting and that he alone was to blame. Because of the love triangle
aspect, the murder made national news.
Carr was sentenced to life in prison for the shooting. But a detective
played a hunch that Edna knew a little more than was admitted.
Interviewing Carr in prison, he reviewed what had happened, and how the
young man was in for life. Did he want to come clean now?
What followed shocked the country. Carr told of a restless wife who
pestered and badgered him for three months to kill her husband "so the
two of us can be happy forever."
In those primitive times, Lenore Walker had not yet invented the
"battered woman" defense. Warren Farrell would now classify this as the
contract killing defence. Women are more likely today to succeed with
such gambits as we know now that wives are always the 'victim' of an
oppressive, battering husband. Or at least Big Sister tells us so.
But in those heathen times, the police and courts hadn't been sensitized
to the special needs of women that justified them killing their
husbands. Based on Carr's testimony, Edna Vanausdoll was tried and found
guilty in the death of her husband.
Longmont woman batters current husband then admits she killed former one
Police took Lenna Eng, age 32, of Longmont, Colorado, into custody on
Friday, June 16, 2000, after she threatened to kill herself and her
husband
She was arrested at Longmont United Hospital where her current husband
brought her after she ingested an unknown quantity of prescription
drugs. She had refused to go to the hospital and battered her husband in
their car until police arrived and arrested her.
Apparently she then told police that she intended to kill her present
husband the way she had killed her last husband, Daniel Ortega.
Reportedly, Ortega was killed in 1991 in Grand Junction by having his
head beaten in with a sledge hammer and then run over by a semi truck.
No information is available on possible accomplices in Ortega's killing.
New Years day stabbing
On New Years day of 1992, Michelle Atencio stabbed her paraplegic
husband, Ray Mascarenas, to death. Mascarena's sister testified that
Atencio first stabbed her husband with a butter knife. When that didn't
kill him she went into the kitchen for a steak knife, and returned
saying: "This one will work!" and finished the slaughter. Atencio also
threatened to kill her sister-in-law if she didn't leave.
According to a January 10, 1999, story in the Denver Post, Atencio is
seeking clemency claiming that she was attempting to defend herself
against Mascarenas who, she contends, was trying to choke her. She also
claims her paraplegic husband was a "vicious man."
Woman cannibal? or just another act of domestic violence?
Excerpts from an AP article in the Rocky Mountain News, October 12, 1994
Carolyn Gloria Blanton, 41, is charged in the shooting death of Peter
Michael Green, 51, of Alamosa last winter.
Some remains of...[the] man were found in cooking utensils at the
suspect's apartment, a sheriff's deputy has testified.
...Judge Jean Paul Jones admitted 40 pieces of evidence ranging from a
.25-caliber pistol and ammunition to a cooking pot, bowl and spoon that
allegedly contained bite-size chunks of human flesh.
...Green's torso was found in a closet at his home. The legs were found
in a nearby trash bin. "The flesh and the meat were off the legs,"
Sheriff's Capt. Les Sharff testified. "They had been totally cut away
from the bones themselves, from the ankle up."
...Blanton had become a suspect because of her "boyfriend-girlfriend"
relationship with Green.
Woman lulls husband to sleep with sex, shoots him, then goes dancing
In 1996, a Denver woman, who was having an extramarital affair at the
time, had sex with her husband for a change. He then fell asleep, at
which point she shot him. After that she disordered the house to suggest
that the killer had been a burglar and went to a disco with her sister.
She had previously taken out a large life insurance policy on her
husband.
Her conviction was a setback for Lenore Walker, who testified as an
expert witness that the woman's behavior was consistent with the
"battered woman syndrome." Walker says a battered woman is one
"repeatedly subjected to any forceful physical or psychological behavior
by a man in order to coerce her
to do something he wants her to do without any concern for her rights"
[emphasis added].
Woman shoots boyfriend in the back with shotgun
On May 15, 1996, Bill and Hope Grudowski of Colorado Springs had an
argument. Bill told her he was leaving the apartment and wanted her gone
when he returned. Instead, she got a sawed-off shotgun and waited in
their bedroom for his return. When he did, she shot him in the back.
At first she claimed her husband committed suicide, but when police
skeptically pointed out how difficult it would be for someone to shoot
themselves in the back with a shotgun, she admitted shooting him. She
then claimed she fired in self defense.
Hope Grudowski's defense attorney, Ann Kaufman, claims that on his
return Bill Grudowski gave Hope the same look he had previously given
her before abusing her. Hope claimed he then turned, she thought he was
going for a gun is his pocket, and she fired.
Kaufman claims that Bill Grudowski was a pimp, drug dealer, and drug
addict. Kaufman also claims he took advantage of the 19-year old Hope
and that he had a reputation on the streets of being very violent.
Kaufman is quoted in the January 10, 1999, Denver Post as saying: "She
had to take the life of someone she loved to save her own."
At first Hope faced life imprisonment for first-degree murder but
prosecutors entered a plea reducing her charge to manslaughter. Cocaine
and marijuana trafficking charges against her were dismissed. Initially,
El Paso County District Judge Douglas Anderson sentenced her to 15 years
in prison, but in late 1998 he reduced it to 10 years. In early 1999 she
was seeking clemency based on her claim of being a "battered woman."
Former Governor Roy Romer prevented prosecutors from appealing her
reduced sentence. She thus became eligible for parole in December, 1999.
We do not know if that was granted.
According to the Denver Post, as of January 10, 1999, Grudowski is
making plans for when she gets out. On a Web site for women in prison,
Hope Grudowski, inmate number CO-F-12, had her picture, and the
following information posted:
"Release date 2003. Sweet, sexy, energetic, full of life! Pretty Hot and
tempting. Very physically fit body! Oh, I can tease — but you'll always
be pleased by me.
Looking for someone who can satisfy my needs just as I can satisfy yours
— A real man. One not afraid to speak his mind, his dreams, his deepest,
darkest fantasies.
IS THERE A MAN OUT THERE WHO CAN HANDLE ME!?!"
It is our hope this woman remains in prison a long time.
CU professor killed by wife while Boulder policewoman looks on
In December, 1997, a Colorado University professor was charged by his
wife with domestic violence. He was issued the standard restraining
order mandating that he vacate the premises of the "victim." Of course
the Fourth Amendment is meaningless in domestic violence cases, and he
was forced out of his home. Under the terms of the restraining order he
could only return for one hour in the company of a police officer to
obtain his possessions. He arranged with the Boulder police for such an
escort and returned to pick up his belongings, or what he could grab in
an hour. While there, with a female Boulder police officer present, his
wife shot him to death. Who was the "victim" in this case?
Murder-suicide in upscale home
There have been more famous cases, but the July 9, 1998, issue of the
Denver Post carried an article about two teenage daughters who found
their parents in bed, dead, in an apparent murder-suicide in their
upscale home. The gun was in the woman's hand. However, investigators
concluded that the husband had shot the wife first before killing
himself. Seems a little hard to do!
Woman claims self defense when attacked by boyfriend's ex-wife
On July 12, 1998, in Thornton, Colorado, near Denver, Susan Beemer, 41,
claimed self-defense when the ex-wife of her boyfriend came at her with
a knife and she shot the ex-wife, Cheryl Metcalf, of her live-in
boyfriend, 39-year old Thomas Rogers. Evidence at the scene apparently
did not support her claim and she was eventually taken into custody.
According to the January 8, 2000, Denver Post, she has now pled guilty
to conspiracy after having been charged with first-degree murder, for
which she was slated to go on trial Monday, January 10th.
She presently claims she was present when the shots were fired but that
Rogers actually fired the gun that killed Metcalf. Police are said to be
preparing to arrest him and charge him with the murder instead.
If her claims that the man actually did the killing were the truth, why
did she wait until she was being brought to trial to make them? Also,
there is a standard test to determine if a person has fired a gun
recently. That test should have been applied to his and her hands at the
time of the shooting. One hopes that the police used such tests at the
time of the murder. If they did, it should be obvious one way or the
other who fired the gun.
Our suspicion (January 9, 2000) is that she made a plea bargain along
the lines of Warren Farrell's "Twelfe Female Only Defences". Naturally,
the man must be guilty. After all, she says so, and she has only been
proven to lie once, so far.
Johnstown woman gets pistol, shoots boyfriend, then herself
The July 20, 1998, Denver Post carried a story of a 19-year old woman
who, after arguing with her lover in Johnstown, a small town near
Greeley, shot him in the face with a .25 caliber pistol, killing him.
She then turned the gun on herself and was seriously wounded. She
appears to have retrieved the gun from her home earlier in the day
following an earlier argument. That would be first-degree murder if the
"domestic violence" aspect were omitted and it was a man doing the
shooting.
Wife kills two ministers, husband arrested
The August 13, 1998, issue of the Denver Post reported on a man who was
released from jail and his wife, Natalie Murdock, arrested instead in a
double slaying of two ministers, one of whom was the couples landlord.
The husband had first been arrested on domestic violence charges after a
July 30 th fight with his wife when the woman told police her husband
had stabbed her with a knife. Authorities now believe the woman stabbed
herself and kicked in the back door to get at her husband. The husband
did not return home after that arrest and the two ministers were killed
when they went to the couple's home to try and evict the wife. The
husband was again arrested on a murder charge but investigation proved
that Mrs. Murdock conspired to have her husband murdered. Apparently the
ministers were innocent victims of that plot.
Ms. Murdock was later found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder
for the minister's deaths and sentenced to life in prison without parole
(Denver Post, May 14, 1999). If history is any indicator, in a few years
she will be appealing for clemency on the basis that she was suffering
from "battered woman syndrome." Similar appeals are presented here.
It should be noted that such cases do not show up in domestic violence
statistics with regard to women because the charge was murder. The
arrests of her innocent husband probably do, however.
Woman has sex with boyfriend then has her brother beat him to death
The January 10, 1999, Denver Post carried a feature story describing
women seeking clemency after murdering their male partners.
One case is that of Sheila Barnhart who was convicted of the
torture-murder of her boyfriend, Dedrick Jackson, in what a Colorado
Springs judge called one of the most horrific crimes he had ever seen.
Jealousy, not physical abuse was her self-proclaimed motive for having
her brother hang and beat Jackson to death. Barnhart admitted she had
once held a pistol to the head of another boyfriend because of jealousy
but didn't pull the trigger that time.
Barnhart lived with Jackson for three-and-one-half weeks and then
decided he had to die. First she tried to poison him with drug-laced
muffins. When that failed, she had sex with him, and then called her
brother over and had him beat Jackson to death with a tire iron. She
apparently participated by kicking him as well.
The basis for any claim for clemency in her case is a little vague.
Woman shoots husband on hunting trip, arrested four years later
The March 31, 1999, issue of the Denver Post carried a story of a woman
in Grand Junction who was arraigned after four years for the shooting
death of her husband while on a hunting trip on the Uncompahgre Plateau
in 1995. He had been shot in the back and chest.
"Black widow" kills husband, boyfriend, tries to have another husband
killed
On May 14, 1999, Cynthia Darlene Phillips of Haswell, and mother of
four, was sentenced to 24 years in prison by Kiowa County District Judge
Norman Arends for criminal solicitation to commit first-degree murder.
Under Colorado law, 24 years is the maximum sentence for that crime.
According to the May 15, 1999, Denver Post, Mrs. Phillips plotted in
June, 1995, to have her husband, Ron Phillips killed by her boyfriend,
who worked in a bar as a bouncer. The murder was supposed to look like
an accident so that she could collect double-indemnity, or $200,000, on
her husband's life insurance. Instead, the bouncer, Billy Michael
Slaughter, took the $10,000 she paid him and left town.
Mrs. Phillips has been dubbed the 'Black Widow Killer' as the decomposed
body of her first husband, Les Konrade, was found with a cracked skull
in a Kansas streambed near Konrade's hometown of Kinsley in September,
1996. As of October, 1999, she is also awaiting trial in Texas for the
shooting death in Corsicana of her live-in boyfriend, Tony Matthews, in
the summer of 1998. Apparently she met Matthews while he was working as
a bartender in the Opal bar where Slaughter worked before he
disappeared.
There are also allegations that she has burned down houses to collect
the insurance money.
Despite her previous conviction and pending trial, she has remarried
while in jail. Her current husband is working to prove her innocence
according to a story in the Denver Post dated October 3, 1999. It is our
recommendation that he not take out any insurance with her as
beneficiary.
Jesus told her to do it
In June, 1999, Priscilla Lee Jansma of Aurora, age 44, shot and killed
her husband and then told police: "Jesus told me it was OK to do it."
Wife shoots husband multiple times, no arrest made
According to the July 29, 1999, Denver Post, 43-year old Kathyrn Two
Bears of Cañon City shot her husband, Daniel, multiple times during a
domestic dispute that escalated into a struggle over a gun. Assistant
District Attorney Kathy Eberling requested a month to make a decision on
whether to file manslaughter charges against Kathyrn Two Bears, who was
to return to court on September 8th.
Woman stabs live-in boyfriend, claims self defense
Forrest Eugene Potts was stabbed to death in Colorado Springs by the
39-year old woman he was living with on October 13, 1999. Potts,
described by his fellow employees "...a really quiet, nice person" was
stabbed once in the upper right chest with a kitchen knife.
The woman claimed they arguing and Potts attacked her with a chair. She
then took a knife she was using to peel potatoes and stabbed him once,
killing him. The District Attorney's office claimed there was not enough
evidence to disprove she was acting in self defense.
Police give gun back to woman, she uses it to kill daughter and self
According to the November 18, 1999, Denver Post, an autopsy confirmed
that Paula Bode shot and killed her 5-year old daughter and then killed
herself on Monday, November 15th. Ms. Bode was reportedly devastated
over the breakup of her longtime relationship with her child's father.
In February, 1999, police had reportedly visited Ms. Bode's home on a
call that she was threatening suicide. At that time police confiscated a
handgun from her but it was later returned. That gun was used in her
murder-suicide.
A similar case of a man killing his three daughters and then committing
suicide by attacking the Castle Rock police station on June 22, 1999,
prompted Governor Owens to reestablish the Colorado Bureau of
Investigations database on domestic violence by executive fiat. The
objective of that database is supposedly to keep guns out of the hands
of people likely to commit domestic violence. The CBI database was
operational during February, 1999, but was discontinued in April until
August, 1999.
Sergeant convicted of premeditated murder after stabbing husband 40
times
Army sergeant Kimberly Dobson, age 28, was convicted of premeditated
murder of her husband, Sgt. Terry Dobson, at Fort Carson on Saturday,
February 5, 2000. In her court martial she was found to have stabbed her
husband 40 times in the head the evening of March 2, 1999, at the
couple's apartment in Colorado
Springs.
According to the February 6, 2000, issue of The Gazette, she initially
told investigators that she and her husband had a scuffle and she
stabbed him in the face in an attempt to get away. She claimed she had
come home and found him and another woman in their apartment and
suspected they were having an affair.
Testimony of the neighbors did not support her version. One man
testified that he awoke to shouts and saw a man staggering as a woman
stabbed him. The body of her husband was found outside their apartment.
Woman stabs man she is staying with in Aurora hotel
Eunice Shije, 42, was arrested early Sunday morning on April 30, 2000,
when police were called to the Red Coach Inn at 9201 E. Colfax in
Aurora, Colorado on a report of a stabbing. A 41-year old man was found
dead in the room.
Ms. Shije is being held for investigation of first-degree murder
according to the April 30, 2000, Metro Digest section of the Denver
Post.
Wife in southwest Denver shoots husband then kills herself
According to the May 3, 2000, issue of the Denver Post, Joyce A. Ralat,
shot her husband several times with a handgun and then killed herself
the afternoon of May 2, 2000. Both were 49-years old. An adult daughter
apparently witnessed the shooting, which occurred at their home located
in a quiet, well-kept
neighborhood across the street from Kaiser Elementary School in
southwest Denver.
The couple is reported to have been arguing at the time of the shooting
but there were no previous reports of domestic violence.
jenniferba...@gmail.com
Thank you. I hope to hear from you soon
lilsexi...@gmail.com
& P.S. He was a great man that did not deserve what happen to him.....who ever did it.
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Players and Oppression
For a long time on Google Groups, there was a poster named Gordon Roy Parker who claimed that women are evil and that men should play them. This is a disastrous advice.
A relationship that starts with fakery can only remain fake. Eventually either the woman or the children will realize the fakery all around them. If the woman realizes that she has been conned, she will leave, or at least try to leave. If the children realize the fakery, they will rebel.
To prevent the latter from happening is hired an army of priests and psychiatrists. Whenever the former happens, the woman gets attacked from the moral brigade. This brigade is totally in the wrong. Morals exclude conmanship and deception; and for people claiming morality to support players and conmen is an outrage.
A person actually possessive of principle will look at what is formative to the relationship. If the relationship starts with deception, then he will confront instead of supporting the deceiver. If a man wooes with roses and keeps with fists - or if the man plays the woman, as Mr. Parker advises us to do - then the man actually possessive of principle will confront this situation. At this point the participants will then have a choice as to whether to end the relationship or whether to start anew based on truthful things rather than false things.
Growing up in a player situation is very destructive to children. Either they themselves adopt insincerity as way of life, or they become either traumatized or rebellious. A lie is made the authority over their lives and over their minds. They have two choices, neither of them desirable. One is to identify with the lie. The other is to cling to what they see and what they know and be bullied or demonized.
Unfortunately the thinking such as that of Mr. Parker is quite common around the world; and fighting this kind of thing is not for the weak-minded. It is however necessary. The man who plays the woman creates life-long snares built on fabrication and conmanship.
The people in a free country - indeed people everywhere - deserve better.
