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Duane Morin

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Sep 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/12/96
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Here's a simple question:

Does anybody out there have any requirements in a potential SO? I'm
talking absolutely, positively not subject to discussion gotta have it
type stuff.

I just thought I'd post this one after trying to decide whether or not
smoking went in my "preferences" or "requirements" list. Would I
dismiss the perfect woman for smoking? I don't know, honestly. If
she chain smoked, yeah. But if she just kept a pack around, and
occasionally had one - I dunno. Welllllll, as I picture it I still
find myself saying "Yeah, it'd piss me off."

Drug use is a definite out. Not particularly because I'm a prude on
the subject, but because it's something I personally don't do, and
that would be a large piece of her life experience that I wouldn't be
able to share.

And as I've spoken of before, I don't expect to get married as part of
any organized religion's church service. But that's subject to change
over the years

Other than those...nothing leaps to mind. But maybe something will
hit me tomorrow.

Duane

Duane

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http://www.tiac.net/users/dmorin/
==== "Now I will believe that there are unicorns..." ===


Kiralynne

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Sep 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/12/96
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dmo...@tiac.net (Duane Morin) wrote:
>Here's a simple question:
>
>Does anybody out there have any requirements in a potential SO? I'm
>talking absolutely, positively not subject to discussion gotta have it
>type stuff.


(snip)


Hello Duane,

Bottom line? What I expect from my girlfriends or boyfriends...
sincerity, respect and open honesty. What more could you want?

If you truly have those notions, all other problems can be solved.


Kiralynne...


Want to know why Duane? http://www.pe.net/~billyray/loveself.html

If that doesn't kick your butt try this:

http://www.pe.net/~billyray


Robert Geraghty

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Sep 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/13/96
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Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> writes:
>dmo...@tiac.net (Duane Morin) wrote:
>>Here's a simple question:
>>Does anybody out there have any requirements in a potential SO? I'm
>>talking absolutely, positively not subject to discussion gotta have it
>>type stuff.

>Bottom line? What I expect from my girlfriends or boyfriends...


>sincerity, respect and open honesty. What more could you want?

Diplomacy. It is *not* true that people want total honesty. There are
many situations where you can destroy a relationship by being totally
honest.

However, I would put love at number one, and communication at number two.
If you have love and communication, you must have sincerity, respect,
honesty, diplomacy, commitment... ;)

Rob
--
"Shop for security over happiness and we buy it at that price"
>>Richard Bach, "Running from safety"<<
** Rob Geraghty, har...@wordweb.com http://www.wordweb.com **

Kiralynne

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Sep 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/13/96
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cirg...@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (Robert Geraghty) wrote:
>Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> writes:

(snip)

>Diplomacy. It is *not* true that people want total honesty. There are
>many situations where you can destroy a relationship by being totally
>honest.

(snip)

Which is *exactly* what I write about in the story recommended
by me in my previous article. We are in perfect agreement.

Take a look for yourself: http://www.pe.net/~billyray/loveself.html

Kiralynne .. öżö


Brenda Ehmka

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Sep 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/14/96
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Kiralynne wrote:
>
> dmo...@tiac.net (Duane Morin) wrote:
> >Here's a simple question:
> >
> >Does anybody out there have any requirements in a potential SO? I'm
> >talking absolutely, positively not subject to discussion gotta have it
> >type stuff.
>
> (snip)
>
>
> Hello Duane,

>
> Bottom line? What I expect from my girlfriends or boyfriends...
> sincerity, respect and open honesty. What more could you want?
>
> If you truly have those notions, all other problems can be solved.
>
> Kiralynne...
>
> Want to know why Duane? http://www.pe.net/~billyray/loveself.html
>
> If that doesn't kick your butt try this:
>
> http://www.pe.net/~billyray

Hey! Awesome web page.. Beautiful depiction of a woman.. Best I have
seen in a long time.. The words on self love speak volumes to those who
care to both listen and hear...
--
Brenda <'-'>
Official Lady DreamCatcher of the RFA

book...@pacbell.net

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Sep 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/14/96
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Kiralynne wrote:
>
> cirg...@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (Robert Geraghty) wrote:
> >Kiralynne wrote:
> Which is *exactly* what I write about in the story recommended
> by me in my previous article. We are in perfect agreement.
>
> Take a look for yourself: http://www.pe.net/~billyray/loveself.html

Hi Kiralynne :)

I took a look at that posting of yours on your homepage. Very
insightful! I like you web page layout as well. I could have kept right
on going. :) It gives me more to read at a later time, tho'. I've some
of the artwork on old sci-fi covers. Where did you find your gifs?

Ron
Official Irish Poet and Sunworshipper--RFA

Kiralynne

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Sep 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/14/96
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Brenda Ehmka <eh...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>Kiralynne wrote:
>>

(Teralong, the dotted lion)


>... The words on self love speak volumes to those who


>care to both listen and hear...
>--
>Brenda <'-'>
>Official Lady DreamCatcher of the RFA


(totally blushing, wishing I had not mentioned it)

Kira =)

(Still busy eating her way out of a chocolate statue.)
(Her butt has gained 20 pounds. The statue is starting)
(dangerously lean rearward like the Tower of pizza...)

Did I cite the right city?


Teri Rasmussen

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Sep 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/14/96
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Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> wrote:

>(Still busy eating her way out of a chocolate statue.)
>(Her butt has gained 20 pounds. The statue is starting)
>(dangerously lean rearward like the Tower of pizza...)

<LOL!>

<Teri rushes to keep the statue and Kiralynne from falling.>

Quick! Somebody help me prop her up, or we'll have chocolate all over
the place!

(Hmmmm. On second thought, is that a bad thing?)


Teri

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An emerald leaf pierces the crusty white mantle.
Softly green, a bud lifts its head and opens,
Raising petals of alabaster satin to the sun.
A snow rose blooms...

Kiralynne

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Sep 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/16/96
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book...@pacbell.net wrote:

(snip)

>I took a look at that posting of yours on your homepage. Very
>insightful! I like you web page layout as well. I could have kept right
>on going. :) It gives me more to read at a later time, tho'. I've some
>of the artwork on old sci-fi covers. Where did you find your gifs?
>
>Ron


Thank you Ron. Compliments like that are always
appreciated. It is disturbing to have some yahoo
rag on you over a project that took months to
put together.

Ron a good portion of the artwork is by Boris Vallejo,
Rowena Morrill and Hajime Sorayama.

Boris Vallejo and Rowena Morrill are both fantasy
artists. Vallejo's art tends to be softer in the
sense of detail. His lines are faded giving a less
'crisp' look. His art is primarily reflections of
the feminine side of life. He often cast a girl in
an impossible situation or in a sexual environment.
Kinky sex is one of his trademarks however not in
the traditional sense of the word. Kinky by being
sex with a creature of some sorts.

Rowena Morrill paints very much like Vallejo. It is
common for people to mistake the two. You really have
to see a lot of their art to distinquish the two.
Morrill paints with a crispness. Her lines are sharp
and well defined. She is a more detailed artist.
Her art also revolves around females. A difference
is noted in her paintings having cast her subjects
in win or possible win situations. Her females are
more often the heroine. Vallejo does cast some in
losing positions of impending death.

Personally I have developed an opinion about the
two. They do know each other and write introductions
for each other in their art displays and exhibits.
I suspect a close association and sharing of style
in appreciation of each other.

My opinion is their inherent sexuality creeps into
their art. Vallejo as a male, casts females into
rather sexual scenes. His scenes of sex are almost
always really kinky which I enjoy in their wonderful
fantasy. His girls often engage in lesbian sex or
more often sex with a non-human male of sorts. Some
of his paintings even cast the gals in scenes of
having sex with snakes and gruesome creatures.
Most often willingly.

Morrill, being female, paints beautiful women with
a lot less nudity and with a more subtle sexuality.
It is rare to come across a work of hers depicting
a clear sexual act. Rowena, her trade name, also
paints humor. Some are really cute. She also does
stunning depictions of children and their fantasies.
There is an oddity I have yet to connect to gender
influenze. Rowena paints eye contact. That is, many
of her subjects make eye contact with you. Vallejo
rarely paints any eye contact or even close to it.

Even stranger in gender sexuality, Vallejo's works
are indistinct in the message or story they tell.
Rowena's work are usually quite clear in their
story line. I suppose that might be a reflection
of men's inability to openly express emotions and
feelings. Women tend to be quite open.

Hajime Sorayama is the foremost recognized artist
in airbrush technique. His original paintings are
lifesize, like really huge. There is a technical
reason for this. Airbrushing is a type of very
fine spray painting. Sharp crisp lines cannot be
produced like a sable hair brush will. His works
are strictly depictions of semi-nude to fully
nude women vitually always in a very sexual pose.
Sorayama paints with a realism that fools the eye.
If you see only photographs of his work you would
think you were looking at real living women. You
can't tell they are paintings. His trade name is
Hajime and being male his paintings are also often
very kinky. He even does some bondage scenes. His
women are a little more rugged, outgoing, sometimes
exhibitionist and always cast in real life scenery.
A clue to spotting Hajime is in 'chrome' He really
likes to incorporate shiny metal into his art.

Ron aren't you glad you asked where I get my gifs?
Just don't ask the time unless you are interested
in the history of watch making.

If you do a web search on the strings, sorajama,
morrill and vallejo you will find lots of sites.

Currently my homepage just tops five megs. I have
another five megs about a week away from uploading.
There is a project in planning that I estimate will
take 10 megs to complete. In time the homepage will
exceed 30 megs in total. At a buck a meg per month
I am putting out the effort to contribute something
meaningful to the Internet Community.

For a person like you Ron there will be fairly soon
an art exhibit of all three artists. I plan to rotate
through their art on a weekly basis. Each picture
will be a fresh scan from art books and average a
half meg in size. I know you will enjoy it.

Have you noticed my homepage is a direct reflection
of my gender, sexuality and personality? It is split
into two distinct areas, loving and harsh. Isn't it
logical to develop a homepage that is a free flowing
depiction of my 'real being'. I am, after all, a
fantastic lover and a cut throat bitch.

My current project is a homepage for Billyray. It will
be what he calls a 'celebration of women'. This should
be interesting. It is a male dominated project ghost
written by a female. We have run into a few gender
related conflicts!!

Isn't it just awesome how our gender related sexuality
is so easily spotted in art, writing, language, attitude
and even in fantasy?

Ron thank you again for the compliment. It really is
meaningful to me as an individual.

Kiralynne ö¿ö

(wondering where a whacked mostly lesbian bi sexual)
(woman fits into the scheme of things.. hmmmm....)


Christian Delise

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Sep 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/16/96
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Kiralynne wrote:
(snip)
Thanks for the explanation, as a fan of boris's work for many years now,
as well as Olivia's I truly enjoy there representations.

> (wondering where a whacked mostly lesbian bi sexual)

> (woman fits into the scheme of things.. hmmmm....)You fit in damned well I'd say, makes things quite interesting. A woman
with a wicked sense of humor and love of language, you are a rare and
funny woman.

Christian

Frank

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Sep 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/16/96
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<snip, snip, snip>
OK, but what is your opinion of my favorite sensual female artist,
Olivia? I saw a couple of her renderings on your site.
Frank

Kiralynne

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Sep 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/17/96
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Christian Delise <cdjo...@themall.net> wrote:
>Kiralynne wrote:

(snip)

>> (wondering where a whacked mostly lesbian bi sexual)

>> (woman fits into the scheme of things.. hmmmm....)You fit in damned well I'd say, makes things quite interesting. A woman
>with a wicked sense of humor and love of language, you are a rare and
>funny woman.
>
>Christian

Stereotypical bass asswards man.. jeeesshh..
You got it backwards.

"..with a wicked sense of love and humor of language.."

=:o

=)

K

(taking pride in her complete collection of Olivia)
(wickedly downloaded from the Net....)


Kiralynne

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Sep 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/17/96
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Boy are you brave. Asking me for an opinion
is like inviting Typhoid Mary over for an
intimate dinner.

Olivia has her own style as well. Two things
stike me. Ouch. Go away. Mean things. She
doesn't use backdrops and appears to do her
work with pastels. I am not positive however.

Her lack of backdrops keeps the person's
focus strictly on her girls. There is little
room for interpretation of the meaning. She
simply renders really seducative women.

Drool Drool Drool.. oh.. sorry.

Although it may be true she has acrylic
nails I suspect pastels rather than oil,
acrylics, or water colors because of the
clear softness of her work. There are some
that appear to be ink and water color but
it is hard to tell never having the pleasure
of seeing an original work of hers. I think
she is an original work herself. I wouldn't
mind working a gal with an imagination like
hers. Oh gosh.. drifting.. darn I wish I
could be original.

Have you noticed her works revolve quite a
bit around costumes and clothing? Personally
I like black patent leather, whips and ..uhh
things, but not mean things that strike me.
I feel the clothing she uses on her girls,
sometimes scanty, serves as her backdrop.
The clothes tell a story but do not require
extensive interpretation. This is fortunate
for me in being a native Bimboese.

A number of her works reflect her eloquence
as a lady. She uses a boudoir theme to cast
ladies in various stages of undress or dress
depending on your personal desires. The clothes
in those scenes are almost always high class
and very feminine.

A fascinating aspect to me is her use of hats,
caps and masks. Ya know.. stopping and actually
thinking for once.. she really empasizes her
use of clothing and accessories. I wonder if
she is a clothing freak like me? I bet she
dresses well and undresses well as well. Well.
That was certainly confusing.

(putting on my dunce cap)

There are a couple where she uses an animal
theme. I have a couple of sexy mermaids I
wouldn't mind spawning with. There are at
least two of her works using black cats.
I would love to pussy foot with them.

Overall she strikes me (wish she would) as
using a technique of narrow focus, narrow
interpretation yet a soothing softness.
Even her 'wild women' have a soft look to
them. Oh gosh I am getting soft in the head.

There is something to add in considering all
of the artists, Vallejo, Rowena, Hajime and
Olivia. (last article for the lost souls)
It is a clear male vs. female gender influenze.

Both Vallejo and Hajime use extensive nudity
including pubic hair and anatomically correct
men. Vallejo seems to emphasize breasts and
butts. Hajime emphasizes everything but does
lean more towards depiction of natural sexual
acts whereas Vallejo uses animal/fantasy sex.

This, an opinion, is a reflection of men as
the visual creatures they are. It also is
quite natural for the high degree of 'horniness'
in their art. Men are noted for being horny.
I like men who trim their horns and use their
hair to cover them. Their sexuality is not all
that subtle. In some of their art it is quite
obvious. I enjoy it. It is natural for them.

Rowena and Olivia avoid any use of depicting
those private areas men dream of. Rowena uses
a flirtateous method in rendering clothing
that displays an outline of nipples. Olivia
is a bit more openly flirtateous by displaying
a limited view of nipples, a hint, a teasing.
Both use bare butts alot.

Another opinion. I feel both women share my
concept of what parts of a woman are sexy.
Butts and breasts. Isn't that where most of
us have the greatest concerns despite Susanne
Sommers' smiling thigh masters? Ever use those
overdeveloped springs? They don't make you smile
that much, in fact, they make my butt hurt. As a
woman I worry about the size of my rear first and
have accepted what little I have elsewhere.

Are you ready to ask me what time it is yet?

In bringing a cute end to this, in rearview,
I feel all of the artists reflect their
natural instinctive and socially inherited
traits.

The boys like to paint naked women with lots of
detail and plenty of hot sex with ample fantasy.

The girls like to paint semi-nude women with
an eloquent surrounding suggesting making love
rather than hot sex. (we make better lovers)

All of the artist like to paint their sexuality.

You might consider a typhoid shot after reading this.

Kiralynne =)

(going back to sensuously finger painting herself)


HOT LESBIAN SEX!!!

http://www.pe.net/~billyray/c-mask.html

(hee hee.. really gets your attention huh?)


Tay / Yean Ching (MGM)

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Sep 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/18/96
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Well, sometimes its slightly more than that....the standards you want and
the standards he wants are different. That causes friction sometimes

On 13 Sep 1996, Robert Geraghty wrote:

> Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> writes:
> >dmo...@tiac.net (Duane Morin) wrote:
> >>Here's a simple question:
> >>Does anybody out there have any requirements in a potential SO? I'm
> >>talking absolutely, positively not subject to discussion gotta have it
> >>type stuff.
>

> >Bottom line? What I expect from my girlfriends or boyfriends...
> >sincerity, respect and open honesty. What more could you want?
>

> Diplomacy. It is *not* true that people want total honesty. There are
> many situations where you can destroy a relationship by being totally
> honest.
>

> However, I would put love at number one, and communication at number two.
> If you have love and communication, you must have sincerity, respect,
> honesty, diplomacy, commitment... ;)
>

_______________________________________________________________________________
Miss Tay Yean Ching
University of Canberra [ Bachelor of Commerce-Banking and Finance ]
Disclaimer : The above opinions are of my own and they are a reflection of
views on the issues at that point in time...

"Love is like a bottle of wine..if you can drink wine doesn't mean that
you can drink cocktails" (Tay Yean Ching 1996)

Gil G. Silberman

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Sep 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/18/96
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In article <51jt3j$2...@nntp.pe.net>,
Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> wrote:
>book...@pacbell.net wrote:

>>I took a look at that posting of yours on your homepage. Very
>>insightful! I like you web page layout as well.

>Thank you Ron. Compliments like that are always


>appreciated. It is disturbing to have some yahoo
>rag on you over a project that took months to
>put together.

No ragging here. You've got a great website, really impressive.
There's a lot to read and to think about, it's stunning visually,
and it's very tight, polished, artistic in its map and its layout.
It makes me feel inadequate, as I am putting together one of
my own and I don't think I could ever do such a good job. I'm just
too haphazard.

It also answered for me my question of whether you have any
substance behind who you claim to be, any insight behind
your sword rattling. Obviously, yes.

You told me you don't feel a need to prove yourself to anyone.
But you do. So here it is. You might be weird and vexatious and
crazy and annoying, but. . . I kind of expect you to resent anything
I might say to you. Not that I care. But you are not a lightweight.

>Ron aren't you glad you asked where I get my gifs?
>Just don't ask the time unless you are interested
>in the history of watch making.

Could I ask you a question about netscape then?

>Have you noticed my homepage is a direct reflection
>of my gender, sexuality and personality? It is split
>into two distinct areas, loving and harsh. Isn't it
>logical to develop a homepage that is a free flowing
>depiction of my 'real being'. I am, after all, a
>fantastic lover and a cut throat bitch.

>Isn't it just awesome how our gender related sexuality


>is so easily spotted in art, writing, language, attitude
>and even in fantasy?

Gender and sex fascinate me too. For me, if I keep
remembering that these are positive things, and I refuse
to give into the whole crowd that sees these things as an
embarassment, a shame, something to hide or be cynical
about, then sex and gender can be a primary source of
meaning, of substance to life.

I have definitely noticed that you have two sharply
different tones to you. You want to clue me in on
how I might move to the loving part of your page
(not lover, loving)? I'm all ears.

>Kiralynne ö¿ö

>(wondering where a whacked mostly lesbian bi sexual)
>(woman fits into the scheme of things.. hmmmm....)

About the same place as a 500-pound gorilla sleeps.

The bug is. . . Gil G. Silberman. eat lint and thrive!
The bug lives under a rock in. . . San Francisco. EAT LINT AND THRIVE!
Big bug's world o'hell is at http://www.hooked.net/~bigbug

Kiralynne

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Sep 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/19/96
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"Tay / Yean Ching (MGM)" <u94...@student.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
>Well, sometimes its slightly more than that....the standards you want and
>the standards he wants are different. That causes friction sometimes
>

Friction is a result of the resistive force between
objects in contact and usually in motion. A classic
example is the 'rubbing of two sticks'.

Friction can be a lot of fun!!

However it might be good advice not to rub
your standards against one and another unless
it is both desired and desirable.

Kiralynne =)


Dave Aronson

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Sep 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/19/96
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Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> reminds "Tay / Yean Ching (MGM)"
<u94...@student.canberra.edu.au>, who wrote:

TYC> sometimes its slightly more than that....the standards you want and
TYC> the standards he wants are different. That causes friction sometimes

c> Friction is a result of the resistive force between
c> objects in contact and usually in motion. A classic
c> example is the 'rubbing of two sticks'.

c> Friction can be a lot of fun!!

When I want fun from the friction of rubbing my stick against something, let me
tell you, I do NOT choose another stick.... ;->


Robert Geraghty

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Sep 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/20/96
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Kiralynne <call...@genesisnetwork.net> writes:

>cirg...@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (Robert Geraghty) wrote:
>>Diplomacy. It is *not* true that people want total honesty. There are
>>many situations where you can destroy a relationship by being totally
>>honest.
>Which is *exactly* what I write about in the story recommended
>by me in my previous article. We are in perfect agreement.

For a moment I thought the graphic you had on the page was one from the
Vallejo calendar I have. :)

Yep, very similar to my own thoughts on the topic.

Kiralynne

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Sep 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/20/96
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Another stereotypical stickophobic.

=)
K


cirgerag_ding...@p1.f98.n12.z1.fidonet.org

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Sep 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/20/96
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From: cirg...@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (Robert Geraghty)
Subject: Re: A guy/girl's gotta have his/her standards...
Organization: University of Queensland

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J-Marc

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Sep 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/23/96
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> "Love is like a bottle of wine..if you can drink wine doesn't mean that
> you can drink cocktails" (Tay Yean Ching 1996)

____________________________________________________________________

I felt foolish in reading your quote... Personnaly I use to drink
cocktails but nether wine. But maybe it has nothing to do here ?? :)

--
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Jean-Marc Merklin - Paris
http://www.worldnet.fr/~merklijm/me

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