What Metallica is doing is right!!
Senator Sub One Genius
laws, I mean isn't it illegal to trade music that is copyrighted through
public domain unless it is marked as public domain? Yet there seems to be a
sudden critique of heavy metal music all of a sudden where all of these
disgruntled fans are complaining that it's "UNFAIR" that they can't trade
Metallica's music online now and all of a sudden Metallica's music sucks
now!! What Metallica is doing is protecting their integrity and protecting
what's rightfully theirs. It's the exact same thing as protecting your own
private belongings and private property as long as it's deemed as private
property.
Metallica - MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU - You go guys!! Don't let the bastards wear
you down!!
I await the comments about being a capitalist pig.
Signed By: Senator Sub One Genius
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proper only a society
in which that good is achieved and achievable. But if one begins by
accepting "the common
good" as an axiom and regarding individual good as its possible but not
necessary
consequence, one ends up with such a gruesome absurdity as Soviet Russia, a
country
professedly dedicated to "the common good," where, with the exception of a
minuscule clique
of rulers, the entire population has existed in subhuman misery for over two
generations."
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Joop
friends, suddenly, metallica is "bad" and "they suck" They say "metallica
doesn't understand that recordsales go up by speading music through napster"
That's not the issue, it's metallica's property, only they can decide what
happens to it.
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Brett Banditelli
<bottl...@slonet.com> wrote:
>
>Music should be free.
"FUCK RECORD COMPANIES!" - 16volt
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Perdition
Michel Renaud <mic...@metalcrypt.com> wrote in message
news:mpqdjsokeq9v6f35f...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:35:12 -0400, "Tia" <ravea...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >fans that were using Napster. Fucking assholes. I will never buy another
> >Metallica CD again.
>
> There will never be another Metallica CD worth buying anyway.
I think we've all known this for around 9 years anyway. Fuck, I still hate
that "black" album. Load and Reload... ugh, what a fucking joke. They
should be forced to change their name, cuz they haven't been metal since
1988! Ah well, there's metal bands doing stuff that's 10x better than what
Metallica ever did, so its not a big loss that they sold out and turned into
corperate-cocksucking pop stars. Metallica is the same as Brittney
Papsmear,
the Backdoor Boys, and N-Suck as far as I am concerned.
public_nuisance
Music should be free.
Johnny_Ace
One Genius" <ble...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>...all of these
>disgruntled fans are complaining that it's "UNFAIR" that they
can't trade
>Metallica's music online now and all of a sudden Metallica's
music sucks
>now!!
>
Ah yes, another 'true' Metallica fan. Who hasn't been a fan
long enough to know about all the complaining that went on back
when Load and Reload of Shit were released, about how Metallica
had pretty much sold their music out just to pump out another
album.
I lived in L.A. back when Lar$ was just a moneygrubbing asshole
instead of a moneygrubbing crybaby asshole. I have some of
their bootlegs gleaned from the L.A. band scene. And I have
every one of their albums up until that Load. So spare me the
rabid fan bullshit.
Fucking posers...
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Brett Banditelli
>long enough to know about all the complaining that went on back
>when Load and Reload of Shit were released, about how Metallica
>had pretty much sold their music out just to pump out another
>album.
history
>I lived in L.A. back when Lar$ was just a moneygrubbing asshole
>instead of a moneygrubbing crybaby asshole. I have some of
>their bootlegs gleaned from the L.A. band scene. And I have
>every one of their albums up until that Load. So spare me the
>rabid fan bullshit.
>Fucking posers...
hey man, Poser Metallicas Fan is always less amusing then an Orgy fan
who thinks theyre goth:)
Brett Banditelli
>Brett Banditelli wrote:
>>
>> >i totally agree, I live i the netherlands and i see the same amongst my
>> >friends, suddenly, metallica is "bad" and "they suck" They say "metallica
>> >doesn't understand that recordsales go up by speading music through napster"
>> >That's not the issue, it's metallica's property, only they can decide what
>> >happens to it.
>>
>> 1st off this is a dead issue, 2nd off youre not big into music are
>> yah? perosnally i think metallica sucks, i never liekd them,maybe afew
>> songs, but not many, only metallica mp3 i have on my system is the
>> KMFDM King Nothing remix
>>
>> yah, you cna look at it that way, legally, or yah can look at it that
>> theyre punishing people for liking them? its a witchhunt for their own
>> kind
>>
>> depends what you belive in, no use disscusing it
>
>Then shut up already.
Haha,holy shit,hey foley, THIS guy is tellign ME to shut up, TIM SKOLD
cant get me to shut up and hes signed he can ban me from his shows,
what the fuck do YOU have over me:)
Tia
Michel Renaud <mic...@metalcrypt.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:35:12 -0400, "Tia" <ravea...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >fans that were using Napster. Fucking assholes. I will never buy another
> >Metallica CD again.
>
> There will never be another Metallica CD worth buying anyway.
Agreed. Anything after "And Justice for all" isn't worth wasting any fucking
time on.
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Tia
Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
news:393700EE...@home.com...
> public_nuisance wrote:
> >
> > Music should be free.
>
> --
> "What the Hell!?"---Me, James Hetfield, and Jack Burton.
I personally don't have a problem buying cd's. I like Napster cuz if someone
recommends a group to me, like Nick did with KMFDM, I can download a few
songs before I waste 20 bucks on something I might not like. And I'm sure
I'm not the only one who does that. Metallica's just a bunch of money
grubbing assholes with no regard for their fans.
Crazy_Daisy_Ed
>
> public_nuisance wrote:
> >
> > Music should be free.
>
> Then how would musicians make a living?
> --
> "What the Hell!?"---Me, James Hetfield, and Jack Burton.
They'd make money by selling you and your mom on the corner.
Brett Banditelli
>public_nuisance wrote:
>>
>> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:393700EE...@home.com...
>> > public_nuisance wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Music should be free.
>> >
>> > Then how would musicians make a living?
>>
>> Working maybe?
>
>Then when would they make music?
when their not workign their day jobs, Funker Vogt did this on their
first album, which didnt suck, they quit their jobs for the enxt few
and they were rather rudimentary they all soudned liek Killing Fields,
luckily on Maschine Zeit they got their act together, or mayeb they
got jobs again,heres anote sinc eyou obviously only lsiten to
maisntream stuff, most artists need more then 1 job, remmeber, touring
is what makes the money, not cd sales, cept for :Wumpscut: who doesnt
tour, if they dont want to work they tour and live off that money till
the next one,besides, u cna think about the sound u want while at work
and actually do it when u get home, less pressure on yourself because
you give yourself about 8 hours a day just to THINK
and about that music should be free comment, this person didnt back it
up, dont post one-liners without a good reason
Brett Banditelli
>you were discussing it. Make up your mind.
Wow you are one ignorant son of a bitch, 'did you even read my post'?
if you hadnt, or are incredibnly dense, i ment it was a moot point, it
snot us ein discussing, however, it being a moot point, it means both
sides will heavily discuss, its what happens in moot points, even tho
both sides may know its moot, bringing the other to their side will
help the cause of them
Catman the Great
Yeah, but a glaring statement like that can't be ignored...
And you are correct, Metallica *are* right. Napster=theft and theft=bad.
People who say "music should be free" don't make sense to me. If you found a
convenient way to steal other people's cars, you'd say they were supposed to
be free too, no?
With Regards,
Catman the Great
Darin
>
> >i totally agree, I live i the netherlands and i see the same amongst my
> >friends, suddenly, metallica is "bad" and "they suck" They say "metallica
> >doesn't understand that recordsales go up by speading music through napster"
> >That's not the issue, it's metallica's property, only they can decide what
> >happens to it.
>
> 1st off this is a dead issue, 2nd off youre not big into music are
> yah? perosnally i think metallica sucks, i never liekd them,maybe afew
> songs, but not many, only metallica mp3 i have on my system is the
> KMFDM King Nothing remix
>
> yah, you cna look at it that way, legally, or yah can look at it that
> theyre punishing people for liking them? its a witchhunt for their own
> kind
>
> depends what you belive in, no use disscusing it
Then shut up already.
Deadmetal
Lars? Shouldn't he be made to pay for that?
Darin
>
> Music should be free.
Then how would musicians make a living?
public_nuisance
> >
> > Music should be free.
>
> Then how would musicians make a living?
Working maybe?
Darin
> cant get me to shut up and hes signed he can ban me from his shows,
> what the fuck do YOU have over me:)
I have nothing over you. You said there is no use discussing it, but yet
you were discussing it. Make up your mind.
Darin
>
> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > public_nuisance wrote:
> > >
> > > Music should be free.
> >
> > Then how would musicians make a living?
>
> Working maybe?
Then when would they make music?
Metlhd3138
>
Even if they make an album thats nothing but blastbeats?
KING THOR
Senator Sub One Genius wrote in message
<8h7edt$sg4$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
>How is Darin an ignorant fuck??? Seems like you're trying to evade him by
>calling him an ignorant fuck!
>
>SSOG
>
>"Brett Banditelli" <ben...@tamaqua.com> wrote in message
>news:e67ejs0qp227v54a2...@4ax.com...
>> >I have nothing over you. You said there is no use discussing it, but yet
>> >you were discussing it. Make up your mind.
KING THOR
person should contribute to society
i cant wait until i can buy a replicator
Catman the Great wrote in message <8h7jcc$48n$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
Norseman
Senator Sub One Genius wrote:
> Metallica has every right to go after Napster for infringement of copyright
> laws, I mean isn't it illegal to trade music that is copyrighted through
> public domain unless it is marked as public domain? Yet there seems to be a
> sudden critique of heavy metal music all of a sudden where all of these
> disgruntled fans are complaining that it's "UNFAIR" that they can't trade
> Metallica's music online now and all of a sudden Metallica's music sucks
Brett Banditelli
<ble...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>How is Darin an ignorant fuck??? Seems like you're trying to evade him by
>calling him an ignorant fuck!
WHAT? that was pityful, i called him an ignorant fuck because i think
hes an ignorant fuck, he can feel free to defend himself and ill
gladly read it and reply as to my appearance of him then
whyd you defend?
Brett/banditelli
>SSOG
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public_nuisance
> public_nuisance wrote:
> >
> > Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Music should be free.
> > >
> > > Then how would musicians make a living?
> >
> > Working maybe?
>
> Then when would they make music?
When they get home from work and weekends.
public_nuisance
Senator Sub One Genius <ble...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:8h7e4s$mdg$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net...
> "public_nuisance" <bottl...@slonet.com> wrote in message
> news:dlzZ4.421$aa1....@news3.voicenet.com...
> >
> > Music should be free.
>
> If it's allowed to be free.
It can be free so it should be free.
BTW You're not the ruler of me:-/
>
> SSOG
>
>
>
public_nuisance
Catman the Great <Paradi...@catloverREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:8h7jcc$48n$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > Your missing my point.
>
> Yeah, but a glaring statement like that can't be ignored...
>
> And you are correct, Metallica *are* right. Napster=theft and theft=bad.
> People who say "music should be free" don't make sense to me. If you found
a
> convenient way to steal other people's cars, you'd say they were supposed
to
> be free too, no?
Should computers be free?
Free music will bridge the MP3 Divide.
Jason Sorens
: actually i believe that all things shold be free....what happened to every
: person should contribute to society
It's called Communism, and it died. >-)
___________________________________________________________________
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Celtophile Avenger: jason....@yale.edu;
Jason P Sorens http://pantheon.yale.edu/~jps35
___________________________________________________________________
"They have enshrouded themselves with the comforts of wealth
Inside this temple of material things to which they cling
All because the hand was much easier to see than the spirit"
--Psychotic Waltz's startlingly succinct demonstration of the necessary
connection among epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics
Brett Banditelli
wrote:
>KING THOR (ar...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
>: actually i believe that all things shold be free....what happened to every
>: person should contribute to society
>
>It's called Communism, and it died. >-)
It never lived, true communism that is, and theres still Cuba
Darin
>
> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:39371323...@home.com...
> > public_nuisance wrote:
> > >
> > > Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Music should be free.
> > > >
> > > > Then how would musicians make a living?
> > >
> > > Working maybe?
> >
> > Then when would they make music?
>
> When they get home from work and weekends.
I knew you would say that, but my point is wouldn't you rather be able
to play music for a living then work 9 to 5?
Darin
> >>
> >> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> >> news:393700EE...@home.com...
> >> > public_nuisance wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Music should be free.
> >> >
> >> > Then how would musicians make a living?
> >>
> >> Working maybe?
> >
> >Then when would they make music?
> first album, which didnt suck, they quit their jobs for the enxt few
> and they were rather rudimentary they all soudned liek Killing Fields,
> luckily on Maschine Zeit they got their act together, or mayeb they
> got jobs again,heres anote sinc eyou obviously only lsiten to
> maisntream stuff, most artists need more then 1 job, remmeber, touring
> is what makes the money, not cd sales, cept for :Wumpscut: who doesnt
> tour, if they dont want to work they tour and live off that money till
> the next one,besides, u cna think about the sound u want while at work
> and actually do it when u get home, less pressure on yourself because
> you give yourself about 8 hours a day just to THINK
>
Obviously most artists have to work as well, but I would think that most
people would prefer playing music as their job. That's all I was trying
to say. The original post said that music should be free. If it was free
no one would release anything. Sure they would probably play at home or
locally for their own enjoyment, but it would rarely go beyond that.
Crazy_Daisy_Ed
And China and North Korea.
Darin
>
> >I have nothing over you. You said there is no use discussing it, but yet
> >you were discussing it. Make up your mind.
> Wow you are one ignorant son of a bitch, 'did you even read my post'?
> if you hadnt, or are incredibnly dense, i ment it was a moot point, it
> snot us ein discussing, however, it being a moot point, it means both
> sides will heavily discuss, its what happens in moot points, even tho
> both sides may know its moot, bringing the other to their side will
> help the cause of them
>
> Brett/banditelli
Well at least you made up your mind and decided there was a use to
discussing it.
public_nuisance
Jason Sorens <jp...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote in message
news:8h8jo5$h7l$1...@news.ycc.yale.edu...
> KING THOR (ar...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
> : actually i believe that all things shold be free....what happened to
every
> : person should contribute to society
>
> It's called Communism, and it died. >-)
...and has now been replaced with invisible (no cameras in china) slave
labor.
public_nuisance
> > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > > > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Music should be free.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then how would musicians make a living?
> > > >
> > > > Working maybe?
> > >
> > > Then when would they make music?
> >
>
> I knew you would say that, but my point is wouldn't you rather be able
> to play music for a living then work 9 to 5?
What if the doctor you needed in the future had your attitude?
Free healthcare is a birthrite. Free music is communism?
public_nuisance
> Brett Banditelli wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 01:50:48 GMT, Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > >> > public_nuisance wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Music should be free.
> > >> >
> > >> > Then how would musicians make a living?
> > >>
> > >> Working maybe?
> > >
> > >Then when would they make music?
> > first album, which didnt suck, they quit their jobs for the enxt few
> > and they were rather rudimentary they all soudned liek Killing Fields,
> > luckily on Maschine Zeit they got their act together, or mayeb they
> > got jobs again,heres anote sinc eyou obviously only lsiten to
> > maisntream stuff, most artists need more then 1 job, remmeber, touring
> > is what makes the money, not cd sales, cept for :Wumpscut: who doesnt
> > tour, if they dont want to work they tour and live off that money till
> > the next one,besides, u cna think about the sound u want while at work
> > and actually do it when u get home, less pressure on yourself because
> > you give yourself about 8 hours a day just to THINK
> >
>
> Obviously most artists have to work as well, but I would think that most
> people would prefer playing music as their job. That's all I was trying
> to say. The original post said that music should be free. If it was free
> no one would release anything. Sure they would probably play at home or
> locally for their own enjoyment, but it would rarely go beyond that.
Why would it have to go further than that?
Interesting how what we need should be free and what we want should be
free-market.
Tia
How the fuck did a discussion about those fuck ass sellouts Metallica turn
into a debate about Communism?
--
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Senator Sub One Genius
"Jason Sorens" <jp...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote in message
news:8h8jo5$h7l$1...@news.ycc.yale.edu...
> KING THOR (ar...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
> : actually i believe that all things shold be free....what happened to
every
> : person should contribute to society
>
> It's called Communism, and it died. >-)
Right on my friend!!
SSOG
Senator Sub One Genius
> >: actually i believe that all things shold be free....what happened to
every
> >: person should contribute to society
> >
> >It's called Communism, and it died. >-)
Well why don't you move to Cuba if you think it's so great??
SSOG
Catman the Great
While Cuba is far from "great" (as are, from a capitalist's prospective, any
communist countries), it is an example of a working communist system. If
certain countries would drop their trade restrictions that keep medical
equipment/transportation/modern industrial technology outside its borders,
then far fewer of its citizens would be suffering.
allen matevousian
you can't put it on at a party or when your buddies are over because they
didn't pay for it? If it wasn't for trading music, Metallica would not have
had the support in the beginning. EVERYONE first heard Metallica on a copied
tape didn't they?news:8h63ta$3aa$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
Senator Sub One Genius
> > >
> > > Music should be free.
> >
> > If it's allowed to be free.
>
> It can be free so it should be free.
That's all fine and dandy, but the whole Metallica controversy has left
people thinking it's all a money thing with the band. It's not!! It's
about privacy. Everyone seems to have this disposition about making money
anyway. What's so wrong with four guys getting together, doing what they do
best and making a shit load of money to boot? I'm sure every single person
on this newsgroup who complains about how capitalism and corporate america
and how the power of the almighty dollar is ruining our livelihoods would
die for the chance to be in the same shoes that Metallica are wearing right
now - just a point I thought I'd try to get across, but now for the real
issue - that issue is privacy and property rights....
Metallica has every right to protect what's rightfully theirs. A good
example of what their situation is would be you have a CD collection, it
sits right in your living room, and suddenly Joe Schmoe and a bunch of
strangers you never met before decide their just going to waltz into your
house and take a bunch of CD's without your permission. You're not going to
like that too much now are you?? No, you're not!! The rock band Metallica
has given NO ONE ANY PERMISSION to distribute their music for free, yet it's
being distributed via Napster. This is why Lars has said, "Hey! If they
want to hear our music, go down to the record store and buy it - this is how
we make our music available to the public!! Our music isn't made to be
distributed for free."
Now, take that same scenario with the CD's and take them out of your living
room and sit them all outside of your house with a sign on it that says
"FREE CD's - Take One" then that's where you give the public permission to
take what use to be your private property and use it for their own needs
(aka, the public domain). When a band puts a copyright on their material,
that's signifying that there are certain rights that the owner (in this
case, Metallica) reserves in order to make this material available to the
public. It's somewhat of a contract with the public and if the public
decides they're going to infringe on their rights then the owner of the
copyright has the sole authority to take whatever action he/she sees fit.
And thus concludeth my legal lesson for the day...
SSOG
Senator Sub One Genius
"Catman the Great" <Paradi...@catloverREMOVE.com> wrote in message
I don't agree with that at all.
SSOG
Senator Sub One Genius
"allen matevousian" <a.mate...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:kn0_4.883$vc5....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> So If you buy a Metallica album, only you should listen to it? That means
> you can't put it on at a party or when your buddies are over because they
> didn't pay for it? If it wasn't for trading music, Metallica would not
have
> had the support in the beginning. EVERYONE first heard Metallica on a
copied
> tape didn't they?
Actually, the first songs I heard from Metallica were on the radio on a
local metal show when metal was good.
SSOG
Senator Sub One Genius
> > > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > > > > > public_nuisance wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Music should be free.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then how would musicians make a living?
> > > > >
> > > > > Working maybe?
> > > >
> > > > Then when would they make music?
> > >
> >
> > I knew you would say that, but my point is wouldn't you rather be able
> > to play music for a living then work 9 to 5?
>
> What if the doctor you needed in the future had your attitude?
> Free healthcare is a birthrite. Free music is communism?
Free healthcare is not a birthrite though.
SSOG
public_nuisance
Exactly!
Why is it legislated as one?
>
> SSOG
>
>
jec
<bottl...@slonet.com> wrote:
>
>Music should be free.
>
How awfully selfish of you.
Senator Sub One Genius
usually selfish fools!!
SSOG
"jec" <tca...@epix.net> wrote in message
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Met K.
___________________________________________________________
- Met K.
"Would you let Pacman give you head if given the chance?"
public_nuisance
> Most people who believe something (whatever it is) should be free are
> usually selfish fools!!
Is this a personal quote?
George Olschewski
<a.mate...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>So If you buy a Metallica album, only you should listen to it? That means
>you can't put it on at a party or when your buddies are over because they
>didn't pay for it? If it wasn't for trading music, Metallica would not have
>had the support in the beginning. EVERYONE first heard Metallica on a copied
>tape didn't they?
Metallica also SANCTIONED the copying & distribution of "No Life Til
Leather." They had no knowledge, nor given any permission, to
distribute their studio recordings by way of Napster, Gnutella, etc.
They never had, nor do they have, a problem with bootleg concert
tapes.CDs.
G.
rockf...@my-deja.com
Rock Rockfest, that is blatantly an attempt to covet the real
Rockfest....it's very, very clear, Metallica are all about the $$$...if
they were decent and so "tough" as you're making them out to be, they'd
pull out of the greed-fest and support the Underground...we were there
for them when they weren't shit, now they want to fuck us....Metallica
have no balls left....it shows more spirit to deny the music mafia than
to lie in bed with them, especially when the band has been making a
point about how it's not cool to steal things from people, and treat
bands and people unfairly....what hypocrites!
This is a call-out...Metallica, you redeem yourselves...tell us how cool
you're gonna be at "Rockfest" when you're ripping someone else's
copyrights and ideas?
Infringement....shit!
Rockfest:
http://www.rockfest.org
http://www.rockfest.net
Rockfest News:
http://www.groksoup.com/Site/Rockfest
Underground:
http://undergroundrecords.org
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Before you buy.
Senator Sub One Genius
>
> Senator Sub One Genius <ble...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> news:8hbrob$ru3$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> > Most people who believe something (whatever it is) should be free are
> > usually selfish fools!!
>
> Is this a personal quote?
No. Not at all. It's a fact of life. Most people who believe that something
should be free are only saying that because they feel they're missing out on
something that they wish could be a part of their life, whereas they've
misunderstood the whole process of earning your keep.
Rights aren't even free my friend. Rights are something that has been
fought for each and every time and there has been a hell of a lot of lives
lost in those fights. What gets me are the people that have no appreciation
for those people who risked their own lives so that we can live in a nation
where we have rights and we have freedoms that no other country has. It
really gets me when people will say "HEY! THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY - I SHOULD
BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT I WANT, OR DO WHATEVER I WANT TO!" That's bullshit!!
Being free requires responsibility, as well as having rights requires
responsibility. If you can't accept that, then you're only going to get in
trouble in the long run.
SSOG
Darin
> > Brett Banditelli wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 01:50:48 GMT, Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Darin <d.mic...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:393700EE...@home.com...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Music should be free.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Working maybe?
> > > >
> > > >Then when would they make music?
> > > first album, which didnt suck, they quit their jobs for the enxt few
> > > and they were rather rudimentary they all soudned liek Killing Fields,
> > > luckily on Maschine Zeit they got their act together, or mayeb they
> > > got jobs again,heres anote sinc eyou obviously only lsiten to
> > > maisntream stuff, most artists need more then 1 job, remmeber, touring
> > > is what makes the money, not cd sales, cept for :Wumpscut: who doesnt
> > > tour, if they dont want to work they tour and live off that money till
> > > the next one,besides, u cna think about the sound u want while at work
> > > and actually do it when u get home, less pressure on yourself because
> > > you give yourself about 8 hours a day just to THINK
> > >
> >
> > Obviously most artists have to work as well, but I would think that most
> > people would prefer playing music as their job. That's all I was trying
> > to say. The original post said that music should be free. If it was free
> > no one would release anything. Sure they would probably play at home or
> > locally for their own enjoyment, but it would rarely go beyond that.
>
> Why would it have to go further than that?
>
> Interesting how what we need should be free and what we want should be
> free-market.
>
You are looking for a perfect world, a perfect society, but I'm sorry
you ain't gonna find it here.
Metlhd3138
I know IVE been finding some great rare songs on it since the lawsuit
(downloading ozzys living with the enemy right now).
the tree by the river
Senator Sub One Genius <ble...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>"public_nuisance" <bottl...@slonet.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Music should be free.
>
>If it's allowed to be free.
It's allowed. Lots of free music out there.
(Grab some from the link below if you like.)
Funny thing, though, free music doesn't stop people from buying
Metallica CDs any more than TV, cable, and radio have killed
off video and CD sales.
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Mr. Yak Milk
public_nuisance
Mr. Yak Milk <ma...@frucht.org> wrote in message
news:393d9c59...@news-usa.downcity.net...
>
>
>
>
> Support Live music.
>
> Turn off your television and make some!!!
Exactly!
The recording industry is completely useless and of zero value to society.
>
> -marco
> http://www.mp3.com/MarcoCapelli
Jeroen Vlek
> medical equipment/transportation/modern industrial technology
Hmyeah, i know this is off-toppic,
but shouldn't cuba ("as a working communist system") be able to provide
themself "the collective" with a these goods? Besides, the trade restriction
have not been put up because Cuba is a communistic country!!
Regards,
Jeroen