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Kirk Hammet is a predictable, vastly overrated player.

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Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 11, 2001, 12:26:42 PM3/11/01
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Yeah that would totally suck to have a guiatrist that has 3 solos in
the 100 best solos poll taken by guitar world magazine.>>

Go to hell, dude. Guitar World and most of it's readers dont know jack shit.
Hammett is a crappy guitarist, pure and simple. Let me outline one of his solos
for you...

::Turn on Wah, Whammy Pedal, whatever bullshit effect he wants to use every
friggin solo::
_Pointless, out of key run...
_6 Blues based double stops...
_Big bend on 22nd fret...
_Another out of key run...
_More double stops...
_Blues lick, repeated 4 times in succession....
_Another big bend!

There you go! Kirk Hammett in all his glory! Enjoy playing all of his solos
with one, very simple outline! Oh wait..I will include a rythm outline as well!

::Tunes down his guitar half a step to play old songs...Turns on bad, weak,
grungy sounding Load style distortion...::
_Plays wrong note frequently

There you go! (The above outline could have also applyed to James' equally
shitty, current rythm playing.)

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Arrogant

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Mar 11, 2001, 1:03:05 PM3/11/01
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I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
you sold lately?

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Bug Gut Boot

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Mar 11, 2001, 1:55:56 PM3/11/01
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>I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>you sold lately?

Hey, Arrogant Fuck, can you even play an instrument other than your dick?

With Regards On My Sole,
Bug-Gut Boot

Morbid Ejaculator

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Mar 11, 2001, 4:18:53 PM3/11/01
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I agree. Slayer are much more articulate and classically inspired.

On 11 Mar 2001 17:26:42 GMT, vade...@aol.comSucks (Slaytanic Vader)
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Arrogant

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Mar 11, 2001, 2:17:49 PM3/11/01
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Yeah I can but what does that have to do with some idiot criticizing every
aspect of Kirk's playing? There are a ton of guitarists that are really
fast and can play a ton of notes and blah, blah, blah....Who cares? Ace
Frehley is hardly a technically good guitarist, yet there are many, many
guitarists who name him as a major influence. Furthermore, if this guy
"slaytanic vader" has it all figured out, why hasn't he set the world on
fire with all of his scary talent? So fuck you for talking about the way
Metallica has changed, while you defend the crappy shit Axl is doing now.
Did you see the tape from Rio? The only stuff that sounds good is the old
songs, the new shit is HORRIBLE, almost as horrible when Axl took his shirt
off to reveal the flabby belly hanging over his shorts. So go put a KFC
bucket on your head and run away little sheep.

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Gemari2

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Mar 11, 2001, 3:34:57 PM3/11/01
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I think Hammett's work on Justice was state of the art and stellar.When he'd
hit a harmonic and pull it up/down with the whammy bar, it sounding like a
space shuttle taking off. A real distinct sound and tone of that album. After
that, however, he chose the predictable Blues-Rock approach....if people think
that that they're plenty of guys that play fast and they all sound the
same...try listening to 3 dozen Blues-Rock guitarists who are all playing the
same Hendrix/SRV/Clapton licks over and over.

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 11, 2001, 8:59:44 PM3/11/01
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<<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
you sold lately?>>

And that matters...Why?

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 11, 2001, 9:03:28 PM3/11/01
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Yeah I can but what does that have to do with some idiot criticizing every
aspect of Kirk's playing? There are a ton of guitarists that are really
fast and can play a ton of notes and blah, blah, blah....Who cares?>>

I do...Kirk Hammett is insuperior in most every aspect musically. Hell, most
good guitar players think so...

Ace
Frehley is hardly a technically good guitarist, yet there are many, many
guitarists who name him as a major influence.>>

Hell, Tony Iommi plays pretty simple, but he isn't as predictable as Hammett.
There is a difference between being simple and overrated and predictable.

Kirk is all three!

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 11, 2001, 9:06:01 PM3/11/01
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<<I agree. Slayer are much more articulate and classically inspired.>>

You idiots dont get it, do you? I didnt say Slayer were talented musically!
They really arent! But I still think they manage to create entertaining, heavy
music. (Minus most of Diabolus in Musica.)

FURTHERMORE, I wasnt comparing King/Hanneman to Hammett. The original post was
about Friedman vs. Hammett. I believe that Friedman is in every conceivable
musical way superior to Kirk.

He can play decent rythm, too....

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 11, 2001, 9:08:07 PM3/11/01
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<<I think Hammett's work on Justice was state of the art and stellar.When he'd
hit a harmonic and pull it up/down with the whammy bar, it sounding like a
space shuttle taking off.>>

Very good observation....I tend to agree. His work on Justice was probably the
best. Of course, he disagrees! In the "Art of Kirk Hammett" tablature book, he
states that if he recorded that stuff now, it would sound better. I dont think
so, Kirk!

Arrogant

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Mar 11, 2001, 10:44:16 PM3/11/01
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That's what happens when success and fame goes to your head....

Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message:

>His work on Justice was probably the best. Of course, he disagrees! In the

"Art of Kirk Hammett" >tablature book, hestates that if he recorded that

Furor

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Mar 11, 2001, 11:55:24 PM3/11/01
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Good to see your keeping up with the latest Kirk Hammet print, so that
your criticisms will stay up to date.


On 12 Mar 2001 02:08:07 GMT, vade...@aol.comSucks (Slaytanic Vader)
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Significant Pickle

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Mar 12, 2001, 1:04:57 AM3/12/01
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Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
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> <<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums
have
> you sold lately?>>
>
> And that matters...Why?

Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
(they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.

OBEY

CONSUME

WATCH TV

:)

E.
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Endless discussion of our uselessness
Alive and kicking, this sacred joke
Left without a reason
Until reason takes hold
Surrender your fear
Crawl into the flame"
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LithiuS

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Mar 12, 2001, 8:38:02 AM3/12/01
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shit man, I seen him play live...and he goes off. i bet $1000 he could play
better then u or I

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Significant Pickle

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> shit man, I seen him play live...and he goes off. i bet $1000 he could
play
> better then u or I

(pretending that reasoning with you is going to make any difference):

To poor - or inexperienced - guitarists, Hammet is going to look like a god.
To people without much of a musical background, Metallica is going to seem
original and "s00per-talented".

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 12, 2001, 4:51:58 PM3/12/01
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> <<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums
have
> you sold lately?>>
>
> And that matters...Why?

Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
(they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.>>

I am trying to decide which newsgroup is less intelligent... This one, or the
Pantera newsgroup...

Theres a toughie....The Pantera one has far worse grammar, so at least the
"MeTallICA is COOl d00d!!11!" guys have one thing on their side....

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 12, 2001, 4:53:25 PM3/12/01
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<<Good to see your keeping up with the latest Kirk Hammet print, so that
your criticisms will stay up to date.>>

I have to....It's not as if I bought the thing, though, I just borrowed it. I
have many'a Metallica Mark friends....

Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 12, 2001, 4:57:15 PM3/12/01
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<<shit man, I seen him play live...and he goes off. i bet $1000 he could play
better then u or I>>

And i'll bet $1,000 on all of these things:

1-You are a complete moron who has (is?) not passed high school
2-You live in texas, and are a big Pantera fan
3-You dont know jackshit about music theory, or most importantly, music in
general. Therefore you are perfectly content with seeing artists "Go off" live.
4-You probably wont respond to this post, as most people I prove wrong and go
down in flames dont either....

There you go...Chew on that for awhile, Kirk boy.

G. K.

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Mar 12, 2001, 5:28:20 PM3/12/01
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Slaytanic Vader

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Mar 12, 2001, 6:38:58 PM3/12/01
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<<Hammet, Friedmann, The Slayer guitarists are all very talented. Can't we
all get along!>>

Nope, not as long as there are idiots around here.

C.J.

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Mar 12, 2001, 7:25:09 PM3/12/01
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><<Hammet, Friedmann, The Slayer guitarists are all very talented. Can't we
>all get along!>>
>
>Nope, not as long as there are idiots around here.

Chances of anyone ever getting along?
Little to none, quite possibly extending into the negatives.
C.J.
Cjam...@hotmail.com

Am I Evil

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Mar 12, 2001, 7:58:44 PM3/12/01
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Some people have better things to do other than worry about if Kirk Hammet
is a good guitarst or not.

He's better than me, and thats all I care about.

I'm not going to say he's good or bad, but let me ask you this:
If kirk hammet is so aweful, and suposdly you know so much and are so
superior... why is Kirk Hammet in a vastly succsesfull band, and you're some
wanker posting in a newsgroup? waiting to be discoverd here?

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Significant Pickle

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Mar 12, 2001, 11:38:35 PM3/12/01
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Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
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> > <<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums
> have
> > you sold lately?>>
> >
> > And that matters...Why?
>
> Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the
majority
> (they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of
money.>>
>
> I am trying to decide which newsgroup is less intelligent... This one, or
the
> Pantera newsgroup...

Haven't been to the pantera froup, but I'm willing to hedge a prejudicial
bet on that one, for some strange reason ;)

> Theres a toughie....The Pantera one has far worse grammar, so at least the
> "MeTallICA is COOl d00d!!11!" guys have one thing on their side....

They're fun to poke at in public.

Michael Neilson

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Mar 13, 2001, 4:53:59 AM3/13/01
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I disagree man. Metallica, at very least up till the early nineties, came out
with some amazing stuff. How do you explain such incredible success, if they
weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them? The
majority of us don't listen to crap music. So I guess it comes down to a matter
of opinion. If you don't like 'em, listen to something else.

Mike

Ronnie Long

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Mar 13, 2001, 10:44:59 AM3/13/01
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> I disagree man. Metallica, at very least up till the early nineties, came
out
> with some amazing stuff.

yes. Kirk's 1987 book "How to Play the Pentatonic 123832986543 different
ways" sold over a million copies. the band also released an EP of them
taking a shit, which went platinum as well. too bad that EP has been
forgotten by time. it was high-quality material

>How do you explain such incredible success, if they
> weren't great at what they did?

they knew whose dicks to suck?

> Why did so many people listen to them?

because they sound good, despite lars' horrible drumming and kirk's
out-of-time-and key playing. you know, john lennon wasn't that great of a
player, either. he sold a lot of records. yngwie malmsteen is a good
player. he doesn't sell a lot of records. reason from here young
toadstool.

The
> majority of us don't listen to crap music. So I guess it comes down to a
matter
> of opinion.

I'm choking on the irony of that. give me a second.


blues02

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Mar 13, 2001, 11:18:46 AM3/13/01
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In article <20010311205944...@ng-xc1.aol.com>, Slaytanic Vader
says...

>
><<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>you sold lately?>>
>
>And that matters...Why?

Because these sheep equate good with high sales. They probably love Limp Bizket
too.

http://blues02.knac.com

Significant Pickle

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Mar 13, 2001, 12:38:01 PM3/13/01
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Another game of "let's pretend reasoning will have any sort of effect"

Michael Neilson <westen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I disagree man. Metallica, at very least up till the early nineties, came
out
> with some amazing stuff.

That's not disagreeing with anything I posted.

> How do you explain such incredible success, if they
> weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them?

Explain Britney Spears.

> The
> majority of us don't listen to crap music. So I guess it comes down to a
matter
> of opinion. If you don't like 'em, listen to something else.

The majority of people listen to crap, eat crap (hello??? McDonalds??),
watch crap, read crap, etc., etc., ad infinatum...

Put this --

> > To poor - or inexperienced - guitarists, Hammet is going to look like a
god.

-- to the test.

Go to a music store. Find any number of cookie-cutter k0rn fans out there
who have been playing for 1 year or less. Then, find another lot of good
(or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least competently
dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
"talent".

Jakkal Maharani of Assholes

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Mar 13, 2001, 3:35:41 PM3/13/01
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>
>I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>you sold lately?

Album sales prove nothing.
If they did, Britney Spears would be the reigning Queen of guitarists.


Jakkal
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Mustaine
"I am boldly tuning my guitar." -- Jason Becker
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G. K.

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TheGodThatFailed

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Mar 13, 2001, 11:27:39 PM3/13/01
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Ok now i will agree that Kirk aint the best out there. There are a few at
least that i would rather listen to John Petrucci, Yngwie, Buckethead, James
Murphy and, Jim Matheos come to mind. But i will say that as good or bad as
kirk may be he has come up with some nice solos both pre black album and
post black album. Now my opinion only but i like some of the stuff on load
and reload..... i like the entire albums but i think some of his stuff while
as technically inept as it may be still fits the songs and is not terrible.
There are better players and musicians... by far.


Gemari2

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Mar 14, 2001, 8:33:11 AM3/14/01
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You hit the nail on the head here dude. Some people like to compare
Guitarist like there athletes as opposed to artist "oh this guys faster,
and this guy can cover 6 frets, etc." Rock 'n roll never wanted to be,
pretended to be or needs to be Mozart. If you want lead Guitar
Masterbation, then fine, go pick up an Yngwie or Satriani album like
their other 25 fans. Just remember, without Hendrix, Clapton, Page,
Iommi, Blackmore there is no Van Halen, Hammett, Satch, Friedman,
etc.... nothing under the sun is new anymore, just play and listen where
the music takes you...
-------------------------------------------------------------
That's true. It's also important to point out..without the fierce competition
and comparisons, guitar would never have evolved beyond English guys playing
Muddy Water's licks.

Jakkal Maharani of Assholes

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>
>
>
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>
>>So I guess it comes down to a matter of
>> opinion. If you don't like 'em, listen to
>> something else.
>
>You hit the nail on the head here dude. Some people like to compare
>Guitarist like there athletes as opposed to artist "oh this guys faster,
>and this guy can cover 6 frets, etc." Rock 'n roll never wanted to be,
>pretended to be or needs to be Mozart. If you want lead Guitar
>Masterbation, then fine, go pick up an Yngwie or Satriani album like
>their other 25 fans. Just remember, without Hendrix, Clapton, Page,
>Iommi, Blackmore there is no Van Halen, Hammett, Satch, Friedman,
>etc.... nothing under the sun is new anymore, just play and listen where
>the music takes you...
>

But also remember, without the more complex influences, those players aren't
there either.

Ronnie Long

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Mar 14, 2001, 10:04:06 PM3/14/01
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> (or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least competently
> dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
> "talent".

arrrrgh.

jazz lends a false air of credability to people. that's not to say that
your average jazz player isn't more proficient than your average
rock/blues/metal player, but he/she's also likely been playing longer. year
for year, I'd say they're no better than any other dedicated player. when I
started dribbling in/on some jazz t00ns and people started adding numbers to
my talent rating.

"check it out, now I'm going to masturbate in the D dorian with the gain up
on 7."

*yawn*

"check it out, I'm going to masturbate in the G mixolydian with no gain on
an axe with single-coils."

*WOW! that's cool!*

isn't it amazing what you can do with a footswitch and seven notes (in this
case CDEFGAB)


Tali

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Met K. wrote:

>> thanks ya..btw, where's like, D-girl, and like some other characters
>> that nested here? I liked D, she was arrogant, angsty, and not entirely
>> stupid...and she had them knockers too...
>>
>
>
> Isn't that most the women/men/asexual's here? Well, not the tits
> thing, but maybe if they have high hormonal levels.


Dmentia was anything but asexual, she was like a high priestess of pink
beavers and she reigned over all that wears fishnet and prefers fur
instead of oysters...

Dave Atenasio

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Significant Pickle wrote:
>
> Ronnie Long <ruger...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:98pbm7$788$1...@info2.uah.edu...

> > > (or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least
> competently
> > > dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
> > > "talent".
> >
> > arrrrgh.
> >
> > jazz lends a false air of credability to people.
>
> Eh, somewhat agreed.

No, disagreed :) I have total respect for any musician who can make it through
the lengthy process of becoming an accredited "jazz musician". Sure, some of
them bore me, but they probably won't be around too long. I love Yngwie Malmsteen
but I don't think he has shit on Pat Methany. Sure jazz nerds are annoying,
but many of them DO have bragging rights, and I'm sure not going to fucking
call them piss-poor when I barely comprehend the basics of what they're doing,
much less play alongside them. A lot of guitarists learn a few modes and the
minor pentatonic scale in a few positions and think they're hot shit. Try
taking that to a jazz session though. As soon as goofy altered chord comes a
long and when the 5th in your pentatonic solo clashes with the flatted fifth,
they probably will kick all your shit out the door (You should have been
playing melodic minor a half step above the root of the altered chord foo')

> The key thing here is, musicians who can at least
> competently dabble in jazz have gained some experience in IMPROVISATION.
> Yes, you can do it in other genres of music too, but it's the most important
> part of jazz playing (unless you're one of those gay l0unge-jazz "artists").

True, and since a power chord really doesn't create a lot of harmonic restriction,
you can go nuts.

What's wrong with lounge jazz bands? ;) I'm sure anyone of them could rip it
up on a monk, davis, ellington, even hancock piece. Sure they play some gay
annoying stuff, but sometimes they throw in some cool shit. I think I heard
a lounge band do a good version of angel eyes recently. Unless of course you
meant smooth jazz, in which case, I completely agree ;)

> And to pull a Ronnie Long on you: "that's credibility".
>
> :)

I will refrain from commenting on kirk hammet.

Dave
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Ronnie Long

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> > > jazz lends a false air of credability to people.
> >
> > Eh, somewhat agreed.
>
> No, disagreed :) I have total respect for any musician who can make it
through
> the lengthy process of becoming an accredited "jazz musician".

[snip]

yeah yeah, there's a difference between being an accredited jazz musician
and being a "jazz musician." like I said, jazz gives instant credibility
and it shouldn't necessarily. but that said, yes, yngwie F. malmsteen
doesn't have anything on McLaughlin or Paco...he doesn't have speed on them,
either. ;-) there are a ton of great jazz players I'm not worthy to tune a
guitar in the same town as. but there are far more jazz players who rely on
the title of being a "jazz player" that don't deserve to be in the same town
as my ass playing harmonica.


MetallicA1221

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Anybody that says kirk hammet is an overrated guitar player is an idiot first
of all. and second James hetfield is one of the best rythem players of all
time. You would have to be a complete moron to say otherwise.

Significant Pickle

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Shit, you're right!

Nothing like a well reasoned argument to convince the m0b.

Significant Pickle

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Dave Atenasio <da...@crud.net> wrote in message
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> Significant Pickle wrote:
> >
> > Ronnie Long <ruger...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:98pbm7$788$1...@info2.uah.edu...
> > > > (or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least
> > competently
> > > > dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
> > > > "talent".
> > >
> > > arrrrgh.
> > >
> > > jazz lends a false air of credability to people.
> >
> > Eh, somewhat agreed.
>
> No, disagreed :) I have total respect for any musician who can make it
through
> the lengthy process of becoming an accredited "jazz musician".

[snip]

Ya, but that wasn't what he was talking about :)

Tali

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Bug Gut Boot wrote:

>> I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>> you sold lately?
>
>

> Hey, Arrogant Fuck, can you even play an instrument other than your dick?
>
> With Regards On My Sole,
> Bug-Gut Boot

Hey now, a man's dick is a finely tuned instrument, dont disrespect The
Dick..

Tali

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Jakkal Maharani of Assholes wrote:

>> I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>> you sold lately?
>
>
> Album sales prove nothing.
> If they did, Britney Spears would be the reigning Queen of guitarists.
>

Britney Spears da Bomb too, biatch! You go out there and shake your tits
like she does and then say it's easy, you nursin' megadeth hoe!@@!@!!!

Tali

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Significant Pickle wrote:

> Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message

> news:20010311205944...@ng-xc1.aol.com...


>
>> <<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums
>
> have
>
>> you sold lately?>>
>>

>> And that matters...Why?
>
>
> Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
> (they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.
>

> OBEY
>
> CONSUME
>
> WATCH TV
>

you left out,

pay taxes
enjoy your freedom

Significant Pickle

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Ronnie Long <ruger...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:98pbm7$788$1...@info2.uah.edu...
> > (or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least
competently
> > dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
> > "talent".
>
> arrrrgh.
>
> jazz lends a false air of credability to people.

Eh, somewhat agreed. The key thing here is, musicians who can at least


competently dabble in jazz have gained some experience in IMPROVISATION.
Yes, you can do it in other genres of music too, but it's the most important
part of jazz playing (unless you're one of those gay l0unge-jazz "artists").

And to pull a Ronnie Long on you: "that's credibility".

:)

E.

Tali

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Mar 15, 2001, 1:54:07 PM3/15/01
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blues02 wrote:

Limp Bizkit DA Bomb Da Bomb!!!
Hail nu-metal! Wah! Wah! Wah!

Tali

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Mar 15, 2001, 2:02:50 PM3/15/01
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>
>
>> How do you explain such incredible success, if they
>> weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them?
>
>
> Explain Britney Spears.
>

hahah...irrelevant logic, wrong appeal, bubble gum pop was never about
music, always about sex appeal...u still full of loopholes
Elangii...muhahah :)

not that i give a rat's ass 'bout 'tallica these days...but's it's
always nice and cozy to come back to a newsgroup where The Topic lives
on...POWER TO DA PEOPLE!#@!!!! Liberate all BEAVERS!!@!@!!!

Furor

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:26:48 AM3/15/01
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The thing is with most jazz guitarists, even though they have
abilities to play flashy, they know when to use it. Unlike the
majority of metal "watch my metal face" players.

Furor

Met K.

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Mar 16, 2001, 10:38:24 AM3/16/01
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Ronnie Long

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:11:18 PM3/15/01
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> And to pull a Ronnie Long on you: "that's credibility".

*checks original post*

...

god damnit.


Significant Pickle

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Mar 15, 2001, 11:42:35 PM3/15/01
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Tali <pa...@usefulware.com> wrote in message
news:3AB111DA...@usefulware.com...

>
> >> How do you explain such incredible success, if they
> >> weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them?
> >
> >
> > Explain Britney Spears.
> >
>
> hahah...irrelevant logic, wrong appeal, bubble gum pop was never about
> music, always about sex appeal...u still full of loopholes
> Elangii...muhahah :)

Take it in context of the thread. The logic is sound :)

Welcome back, old regular type d00d.

Tali

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>
>
> Take it in context of the thread. The logic is sound :)
>
> Welcome back, old regular type d00d.
>
>

thanks ya..btw, where's like, D-girl, and like some other characters

Ronnie Long

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:13:17 PM3/15/01
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> The thing is with most jazz guitarists, even though they have
> abilities to play flashy, they know when to use it. Unlike the
> majority of metal "watch my metal face" players.

there are also a TON of pis-poor jazz players who get lots of credibility
because they play jazz, not because they play jazz well or deserve it. I
mean, if it gets them laid, I won't stand in the way, but it's not right.


James Boswell

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Mar 17, 2001, 1:42:35 PM3/17/01
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> Shit, you're right!
>
> Nothing like a well reasoned argument to convince the m0b.

Indeed.

and that was nothing like a well reasoned argument.


--
-=-
James Boswell
Jamesb...@tuplay.com
ICQ #: 1653327


Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 17, 2001, 10:31:21 PM3/17/01
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Oh you flatter me, my dear and darling Telly. (Tali. Whatever.)

I lurk. ARMM is like heroin. I can't quit. I don't post much (in fact, I
think I really only make a point of reading posts from Pickle, Alexis,
that Boswell bitch, and my favorite Sweede on the planet) but I'm still
here.

And my knockers are doing quite well, I'll have you know.

Rev. Devi, #779
(formerly D. Mentia, OverGoddess of All Things Pink)
--------
Überbitch, Cohort, Schemer, Deviant and Post-Human

"You know, there's a Columbian proverb, it goes (I think) 'If you
want to know who your friends are, pretend to be drunk, lie in
the street, and shout strange proverbs.'" -- Opening line of an
e-mail

Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 17, 2001, 10:32:20 PM3/17/01
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Oh I *LIKE* you.

Rev. Devi, #779

James Boswell

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Mar 18, 2001, 5:07:14 AM3/18/01
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> And my knockers are doing quite well, I'll have you know.

Did they move to Hawaii yet?

Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 18, 2001, 7:04:09 PM3/18/01
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James Boswell wrote:
>
> > And my knockers are doing quite well, I'll have you know.
>
> Did they move to Hawaii yet?

No, and they have no plans to. Why would they! The King of Cheese is in
LA.

Rev. Devi, #779

Tali

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:16:08 PM3/19/01
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MetallicA1221 wrote:

go listen to dream theater, rhapsody, symphony X, opeth, jag panzer,
angra, nevermore, carcass, stratovarius, etc...then talk about kirk
hammet not being the most overrated guitar player in the world...james
is a better rhythm player than kirk is a solo player, and james hasnt
really done anything exciting in a long while...

Tali

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:19:08 PM3/19/01
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>> thanks ya..btw, where's like, D-girl, and like some other characters
>> that nested here? I liked D, she was arrogant, angsty, and not
>> entirely stupid...and she had them knockers too...
>
>
> Oh you flatter me, my dear and darling Telly. (Tali. Whatever.)

hey, all u have to do is just stand there and lift ur arms up and
inhale, and i'll be happy...


Tali

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:20:05 PM3/19/01
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>> Dmentia was anything but asexual, she was like a high priestess of pink
>> beavers and she reigned over all that wears fishnet and prefers fur
>> instead of oysters...
>
>
> Oh I *LIKE* you.
>
heh..that's more than i can say for the last time i was here :)

T. Iamatus... KUTUULUUUSS!!!1!1!!!!1!

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Mar 19, 2001, 2:37:19 PM3/19/01
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:16:08 -0500, Tali <pa...@usefulware.com> wrote:

>
>
>MetallicA1221 wrote:
>
>> Anybody that says kirk hammet is an overrated guitar player is an idiot first
>> of all. and second James hetfield is one of the best rythem players of all
>> time. You would have to be a complete moron to say otherwise.
>
>go listen to dream theater, rhapsody, symphony X, opeth, jag panzer,
>angra, nevermore, carcass, stratovarius, etc...

No, not Opeth. They suck. Kirk can beat the shit out of them in street
fights probably.

And I'd like to see JOHN GATUCI nail the solo to DAMAGE INC. Fucking
badass, and IT'S ALL DOWNPICKED MIGHT IT ADD!!

That's what some Mateilcai fan said at some other board. The last
paragraph, that is. The first one was actually said by me, myself.

---------------------------------------------------
Metallica is gay. Proof:

http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte836n/

Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 20, 2001, 2:18:35 AM3/20/01
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I don't even remember the last time you were here. I've acquired a great
number of holes in my brain and, because school keeps hammering new
information into my brain, some things eventually do fall out.

Tali

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Mar 20, 2001, 9:38:29 AM3/20/01
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>
>
> I don't even remember the last time you were here. I've acquired a great
> number of holes in my brain and, because school keeps hammering new
> information into my brain, some things eventually do fall out.
>

ahm..then let's keep it that way, but for now, can u just stand up and
take a deep breath...?...

Tali

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Mar 20, 2001, 9:36:35 AM3/20/01
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>
> No, not Opeth. They suck. Kirk can beat the shit out of them in street
> fights probably.
>
he's a yoga man now, he'll just stand there trying to put his foot
over his head, and that'll impress Opeth so much that they'll just run
away wailing something about unprincipled sadism....


Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 20, 2001, 8:02:59 PM3/20/01
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<stands, breathing deeply> Oh, wait, let's make this more genuine.
<stands, breathing deeply, oogling pictures of a naked Peter Steel>

Tali

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Mar 21, 2001, 3:22:06 PM3/21/01
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>
> <stands, breathing deeply> Oh, wait, let's make this more genuine.
> <stands, breathing deeply, oogling pictures of a naked Peter Steel>
>

dammit, i gotta admit, that's one fine mother fucker...

Jakkal Maharani of Assholes

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Mar 21, 2001, 4:56:22 PM3/21/01
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>
>Anybody that says kirk hammet is an overrated guitar player is an idiot first
>of all. and second James hetfield is one of the best rythem players of all
>time. You would have to be a complete moron to say otherwise.
>
>
>

......and someone would have to be completely inexperienced on guitar to agree
with what you just said.


Jakkal
"I don't care how badass anyone thinks I am, I have feelings too."--Dave
Mustaine
"I am boldly tuning my guitar." -- Jason Becker
http://members.tripod.com/~PeanutChew/index.html WUSSNET!

Jakkal Maharani of Assholes

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Of course, Kirk's yoga is still inferior to that of a true master. Will he
ever be good at anything?

Phil Labonte

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Mar 21, 2001, 4:40:05 PM3/21/01
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I like when people say things about other people when there in no position
to say anything. Like Kerry King, who I think started this whole deal about
Kirk not being a good guitarist. Kettle. Black.
Kerry sucks a fat-ass, his solo's are so one dimensional it hurts.
And while I've always loved slayer, I never listened to them for the wicked
guitar technique.
That reminds me about when he said that it wasn't black rappers he felt
should get shot in drive-bys, but white ones. I don't if that was before or
after they rapped on Diabolus....

Rev. Devi, #779

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:37:02 PM3/21/01
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Yer dern tootin'. There isn't a whole lot of girly squealing in my life,
and less still out in public, but I was reduced to drooling fandom when
I saw Type O Negative in public. Lordy ... <drools more>

Unhalowed

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Mar 22, 2001, 3:30:17 PM3/22/01
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>Yeah that would totally suck to have a guiatrist that has 3 solos in
>the 100 best solos poll taken by guitar world magazine.>>
>
>Go to hell, dude. Guitar World and most of it's readers dont know jack shit.
>Hammett is a crappy guitarist, pure and simple. Let me outline one of his
>solos
>for you...
>
>::Turn on Wah, Whammy Pedal, whatever bullshit effect he wants to use every
>friggin solo::
>_Pointless, out of key run...
>_6 Blues based double stops...
>_Big bend on 22nd fret...
>_Another out of key run...
>_More double stops...
>_Blues lick, repeated 4 times in succession....
>_Another big bend!
>
>There you go! Kirk Hammett in all his glory! Enjoy playing all of his solos
>with one, very simple outline! Oh wait..I will include a rythm outline as
>well!
>
>::Tunes down his guitar half a step to play old songs...Turns on bad, weak,
>grungy sounding Load style distortion...::
>_Plays wrong note frequently
>
>There you go! (The above outline could have also applyed to James' equally
>shitty, current rythm playing.)

Man I couldn't have said it better. Kirk is so overated it's sickening. People
who think otherwise do not play guitar like the rest of us. They've never heard
Eric Johnson, Tony MacAlpine or any of the other unknown guitar players who
don't shit for recognition. Fuck Guitar World they're just a shitty fucking
magazine that only cares about making money instead of supporting true
musicians.


FUCK THE WEAK POSERS

C.J.

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Mar 24, 2001, 9:41:12 PM3/24/01
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>Of course, Kirk's yoga is still inferior to that of a true master. Will he
>ever be good at anything?

Jack of all trades, master at none?
C.J.
Cjam...@hotmail.com

Badd speelers untie!!!

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