Go to hell, dude. Guitar World and most of it's readers dont know jack shit.
Hammett is a crappy guitarist, pure and simple. Let me outline one of his solos
for you...
::Turn on Wah, Whammy Pedal, whatever bullshit effect he wants to use every
friggin solo::
_Pointless, out of key run...
_6 Blues based double stops...
_Big bend on 22nd fret...
_Another out of key run...
_More double stops...
_Blues lick, repeated 4 times in succession....
_Another big bend!
There you go! Kirk Hammett in all his glory! Enjoy playing all of his solos
with one, very simple outline! Oh wait..I will include a rythm outline as well!
::Tunes down his guitar half a step to play old songs...Turns on bad, weak,
grungy sounding Load style distortion...::
_Plays wrong note frequently
There you go! (The above outline could have also applyed to James' equally
shitty, current rythm playing.)
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Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
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Hey, Arrogant Fuck, can you even play an instrument other than your dick?
With Regards On My Sole,
Bug-Gut Boot
On 11 Mar 2001 17:26:42 GMT, vade...@aol.comSucks (Slaytanic Vader)
wrote:
Bug Gut Boot <buggu...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010311135556...@ng-cb1.aol.com...
And that matters...Why?
I do...Kirk Hammett is insuperior in most every aspect musically. Hell, most
good guitar players think so...
Ace
Frehley is hardly a technically good guitarist, yet there are many, many
guitarists who name him as a major influence.>>
Hell, Tony Iommi plays pretty simple, but he isn't as predictable as Hammett.
There is a difference between being simple and overrated and predictable.
Kirk is all three!
You idiots dont get it, do you? I didnt say Slayer were talented musically!
They really arent! But I still think they manage to create entertaining, heavy
music. (Minus most of Diabolus in Musica.)
FURTHERMORE, I wasnt comparing King/Hanneman to Hammett. The original post was
about Friedman vs. Hammett. I believe that Friedman is in every conceivable
musical way superior to Kirk.
He can play decent rythm, too....
Very good observation....I tend to agree. His work on Justice was probably the
best. Of course, he disagrees! In the "Art of Kirk Hammett" tablature book, he
states that if he recorded that stuff now, it would sound better. I dont think
so, Kirk!
Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message:
>His work on Justice was probably the best. Of course, he disagrees! In the
"Art of Kirk Hammett" >tablature book, hestates that if he recorded that
On 12 Mar 2001 02:08:07 GMT, vade...@aol.comSucks (Slaytanic Vader)
wrote:
>
Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
(they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.
OBEY
CONSUME
WATCH TV
:)
E.
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Endless discussion of our uselessness
Alive and kicking, this sacred joke
Left without a reason
Until reason takes hold
Surrender your fear
Crawl into the flame"
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"Slaytanic Vader" <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
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(pretending that reasoning with you is going to make any difference):
To poor - or inexperienced - guitarists, Hammet is going to look like a god.
To people without much of a musical background, Metallica is going to seem
original and "s00per-talented".
Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
(they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.>>
I am trying to decide which newsgroup is less intelligent... This one, or the
Pantera newsgroup...
Theres a toughie....The Pantera one has far worse grammar, so at least the
"MeTallICA is COOl d00d!!11!" guys have one thing on their side....
I have to....It's not as if I bought the thing, though, I just borrowed it. I
have many'a Metallica Mark friends....
And i'll bet $1,000 on all of these things:
1-You are a complete moron who has (is?) not passed high school
2-You live in texas, and are a big Pantera fan
3-You dont know jackshit about music theory, or most importantly, music in
general. Therefore you are perfectly content with seeing artists "Go off" live.
4-You probably wont respond to this post, as most people I prove wrong and go
down in flames dont either....
There you go...Chew on that for awhile, Kirk boy.
Nope, not as long as there are idiots around here.
Chances of anyone ever getting along?
Little to none, quite possibly extending into the negatives.
C.J.
Cjam...@hotmail.com
He's better than me, and thats all I care about.
I'm not going to say he's good or bad, but let me ask you this:
If kirk hammet is so aweful, and suposdly you know so much and are so
superior... why is Kirk Hammet in a vastly succsesfull band, and you're some
wanker posting in a newsgroup? waiting to be discoverd here?
"Slaytanic Vader" <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
news:20010312165715...@ng-cf1.aol.com...
Haven't been to the pantera froup, but I'm willing to hedge a prejudicial
bet on that one, for some strange reason ;)
> Theres a toughie....The Pantera one has far worse grammar, so at least the
> "MeTallICA is COOl d00d!!11!" guys have one thing on their side....
They're fun to poke at in public.
Mike
yes. Kirk's 1987 book "How to Play the Pentatonic 123832986543 different
ways" sold over a million copies. the band also released an EP of them
taking a shit, which went platinum as well. too bad that EP has been
forgotten by time. it was high-quality material
>How do you explain such incredible success, if they
> weren't great at what they did?
they knew whose dicks to suck?
> Why did so many people listen to them?
because they sound good, despite lars' horrible drumming and kirk's
out-of-time-and key playing. you know, john lennon wasn't that great of a
player, either. he sold a lot of records. yngwie malmsteen is a good
player. he doesn't sell a lot of records. reason from here young
toadstool.
The
> majority of us don't listen to crap music. So I guess it comes down to a
matter
> of opinion.
I'm choking on the irony of that. give me a second.
Because these sheep equate good with high sales. They probably love Limp Bizket
too.
Michael Neilson <westen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3AADEE36...@hotmail.com...
> I disagree man. Metallica, at very least up till the early nineties, came
out
> with some amazing stuff.
That's not disagreeing with anything I posted.
> How do you explain such incredible success, if they
> weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them?
Explain Britney Spears.
> The
> majority of us don't listen to crap music. So I guess it comes down to a
matter
> of opinion. If you don't like 'em, listen to something else.
The majority of people listen to crap, eat crap (hello??? McDonalds??),
watch crap, read crap, etc., etc., ad infinatum...
Put this --
> > To poor - or inexperienced - guitarists, Hammet is going to look like a
god.
-- to the test.
Go to a music store. Find any number of cookie-cutter k0rn fans out there
who have been playing for 1 year or less. Then, find another lot of good
(or experienced) guitarists - look for those who can at least competently
dabble in jazz. Ask each respective group their opinions of Kirk's
"talent".
Album sales prove nothing.
If they did, Britney Spears would be the reigning Queen of guitarists.
Jakkal
"I don't care how badass anyone thinks I am, I have feelings too."--Dave
Mustaine
"I am boldly tuning my guitar." -- Jason Becker
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But also remember, without the more complex influences, those players aren't
there either.
arrrrgh.
jazz lends a false air of credability to people. that's not to say that
your average jazz player isn't more proficient than your average
rock/blues/metal player, but he/she's also likely been playing longer. year
for year, I'd say they're no better than any other dedicated player. when I
started dribbling in/on some jazz t00ns and people started adding numbers to
my talent rating.
"check it out, now I'm going to masturbate in the D dorian with the gain up
on 7."
*yawn*
"check it out, I'm going to masturbate in the G mixolydian with no gain on
an axe with single-coils."
*WOW! that's cool!*
isn't it amazing what you can do with a footswitch and seven notes (in this
case CDEFGAB)
Met K. wrote:
>> thanks ya..btw, where's like, D-girl, and like some other characters
>> that nested here? I liked D, she was arrogant, angsty, and not entirely
>> stupid...and she had them knockers too...
>>
>
>
> Isn't that most the women/men/asexual's here? Well, not the tits
> thing, but maybe if they have high hormonal levels.
Dmentia was anything but asexual, she was like a high priestess of pink
beavers and she reigned over all that wears fishnet and prefers fur
instead of oysters...
No, disagreed :) I have total respect for any musician who can make it through
the lengthy process of becoming an accredited "jazz musician". Sure, some of
them bore me, but they probably won't be around too long. I love Yngwie Malmsteen
but I don't think he has shit on Pat Methany. Sure jazz nerds are annoying,
but many of them DO have bragging rights, and I'm sure not going to fucking
call them piss-poor when I barely comprehend the basics of what they're doing,
much less play alongside them. A lot of guitarists learn a few modes and the
minor pentatonic scale in a few positions and think they're hot shit. Try
taking that to a jazz session though. As soon as goofy altered chord comes a
long and when the 5th in your pentatonic solo clashes with the flatted fifth,
they probably will kick all your shit out the door (You should have been
playing melodic minor a half step above the root of the altered chord foo')
> The key thing here is, musicians who can at least
> competently dabble in jazz have gained some experience in IMPROVISATION.
> Yes, you can do it in other genres of music too, but it's the most important
> part of jazz playing (unless you're one of those gay l0unge-jazz "artists").
True, and since a power chord really doesn't create a lot of harmonic restriction,
you can go nuts.
What's wrong with lounge jazz bands? ;) I'm sure anyone of them could rip it
up on a monk, davis, ellington, even hancock piece. Sure they play some gay
annoying stuff, but sometimes they throw in some cool shit. I think I heard
a lounge band do a good version of angel eyes recently. Unless of course you
meant smooth jazz, in which case, I completely agree ;)
> And to pull a Ronnie Long on you: "that's credibility".
>
> :)
I will refrain from commenting on kirk hammet.
Dave
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[snip]
yeah yeah, there's a difference between being an accredited jazz musician
and being a "jazz musician." like I said, jazz gives instant credibility
and it shouldn't necessarily. but that said, yes, yngwie F. malmsteen
doesn't have anything on McLaughlin or Paco...he doesn't have speed on them,
either. ;-) there are a ton of great jazz players I'm not worthy to tune a
guitar in the same town as. but there are far more jazz players who rely on
the title of being a "jazz player" that don't deserve to be in the same town
as my ass playing harmonica.
Shit, you're right!
Nothing like a well reasoned argument to convince the m0b.
[snip]
Ya, but that wasn't what he was talking about :)
Bug Gut Boot wrote:
>> I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>> you sold lately?
>
>
> Hey, Arrogant Fuck, can you even play an instrument other than your dick?
>
> With Regards On My Sole,
> Bug-Gut Boot
Hey now, a man's dick is a finely tuned instrument, dont disrespect The
Dick..
Jakkal Maharani of Assholes wrote:
>> I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums have
>> you sold lately?
>
>
> Album sales prove nothing.
> If they did, Britney Spears would be the reigning Queen of guitarists.
>
Britney Spears da Bomb too, biatch! You go out there and shake your tits
like she does and then say it's easy, you nursin' megadeth hoe!@@!@!!!
Significant Pickle wrote:
> Slaytanic Vader <vade...@aol.comSucks> wrote in message
> news:20010311205944...@ng-xc1.aol.com...
>
>> <<I'll agree that the readers are clueless, but exactly how many albums
>
> have
>
>> you sold lately?>>
>>
>> And that matters...Why?
>
>
> Because your opinion doesn't count unless you are either a) in the majority
> (they don't call it "democracy" for nuttin'), or b) you make lots of money.
>
> OBEY
>
> CONSUME
>
> WATCH TV
>
you left out,
pay taxes
enjoy your freedom
Eh, somewhat agreed. The key thing here is, musicians who can at least
competently dabble in jazz have gained some experience in IMPROVISATION.
Yes, you can do it in other genres of music too, but it's the most important
part of jazz playing (unless you're one of those gay l0unge-jazz "artists").
And to pull a Ronnie Long on you: "that's credibility".
:)
E.
blues02 wrote:
Limp Bizkit DA Bomb Da Bomb!!!
Hail nu-metal! Wah! Wah! Wah!
>
>
>> How do you explain such incredible success, if they
>> weren't great at what they did? Why did so many people listen to them?
>
>
> Explain Britney Spears.
>
hahah...irrelevant logic, wrong appeal, bubble gum pop was never about
music, always about sex appeal...u still full of loopholes
Elangii...muhahah :)
not that i give a rat's ass 'bout 'tallica these days...but's it's
always nice and cozy to come back to a newsgroup where The Topic lives
on...POWER TO DA PEOPLE!#@!!!! Liberate all BEAVERS!!@!@!!!
Furor
*checks original post*
...
god damnit.
Take it in context of the thread. The logic is sound :)
Welcome back, old regular type d00d.
thanks ya..btw, where's like, D-girl, and like some other characters
there are also a TON of pis-poor jazz players who get lots of credibility
because they play jazz, not because they play jazz well or deserve it. I
mean, if it gets them laid, I won't stand in the way, but it's not right.
Indeed.
and that was nothing like a well reasoned argument.
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And my knockers are doing quite well, I'll have you know.
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MetallicA1221 wrote:
go listen to dream theater, rhapsody, symphony X, opeth, jag panzer,
angra, nevermore, carcass, stratovarius, etc...then talk about kirk
hammet not being the most overrated guitar player in the world...james
is a better rhythm player than kirk is a solo player, and james hasnt
really done anything exciting in a long while...
hey, all u have to do is just stand there and lift ur arms up and
inhale, and i'll be happy...
>
>
>MetallicA1221 wrote:
>
>> Anybody that says kirk hammet is an overrated guitar player is an idiot first
>> of all. and second James hetfield is one of the best rythem players of all
>> time. You would have to be a complete moron to say otherwise.
>
>go listen to dream theater, rhapsody, symphony X, opeth, jag panzer,
>angra, nevermore, carcass, stratovarius, etc...
No, not Opeth. They suck. Kirk can beat the shit out of them in street
fights probably.
And I'd like to see JOHN GATUCI nail the solo to DAMAGE INC. Fucking
badass, and IT'S ALL DOWNPICKED MIGHT IT ADD!!
That's what some Mateilcai fan said at some other board. The last
paragraph, that is. The first one was actually said by me, myself.
---------------------------------------------------
Metallica is gay. Proof:
I don't even remember the last time you were here. I've acquired a great
number of holes in my brain and, because school keeps hammering new
information into my brain, some things eventually do fall out.
ahm..then let's keep it that way, but for now, can u just stand up and
take a deep breath...?...
<stands, breathing deeply> Oh, wait, let's make this more genuine.
<stands, breathing deeply, oogling pictures of a naked Peter Steel>
>
> <stands, breathing deeply> Oh, wait, let's make this more genuine.
> <stands, breathing deeply, oogling pictures of a naked Peter Steel>
>
dammit, i gotta admit, that's one fine mother fucker...
......and someone would have to be completely inexperienced on guitar to agree
with what you just said.
Jakkal
"I don't care how badass anyone thinks I am, I have feelings too."--Dave
Mustaine
"I am boldly tuning my guitar." -- Jason Becker
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Yer dern tootin'. There isn't a whole lot of girly squealing in my life,
and less still out in public, but I was reduced to drooling fandom when
I saw Type O Negative in public. Lordy ... <drools more>
Man I couldn't have said it better. Kirk is so overated it's sickening. People
who think otherwise do not play guitar like the rest of us. They've never heard
Eric Johnson, Tony MacAlpine or any of the other unknown guitar players who
don't shit for recognition. Fuck Guitar World they're just a shitty fucking
magazine that only cares about making money instead of supporting true
musicians.
FUCK THE WEAK POSERS
Jack of all trades, master at none?
C.J.
Cjam...@hotmail.com
Badd speelers untie!!!