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Disarm

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
fine, that's your taste and opinion...

RoY

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Aug 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/24/96
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Theres also references to drug use in Master Of Puppets and Sanitarium

George T

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Aug 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/24/96
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RoY (nancy...@gbd.com) wrote:

Yeah, but I think most of the drug references in their songs are lamenting
the fact that they've seen so many people go donw in flames because of
using shit like coke and heroin, not because it`s taken them down.

hey, anyone know where to get any mexican black 'round here?? heh heh :+P


Ignard

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Aug 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/25/96
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RoY wrote:
>
> Disarm wrote:
> >
> > listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
> > references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
> > Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
> > fine, that's your taste and opinion...
>
> Theres also references to drug use in Master Of Puppets and Sanitarium

well Lars said in an interview not long ago that metallica used all
kinds of drugs once but no one in metallica is addicted or so.
I'll try to look the interview up and translate it cause it was in dutch
iggy

da...@wolfenet.con

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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RoY <nancy...@gbd.com> wrote:

>Disarm wrote:
>>
>> listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
>> references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
>> Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
>> fine, that's your taste and opinion...

>Theres also references to drug use in Master Of Puppets and Sanitarium

Oh please, drug REFERENCES??? SANITARIUM???? Master Of Puppets was a
song about drugs. "Taste me you will see/More is all you need" and
"Master, Master/Where's the dreams that I've been after/Master,
Master/ You promised only lies." The song was about some dude who
tried drugs, got hooked, and lost everything.

Sanitarium, on the other hand, is about life in an insane asylum. It's
true. Listen to the song.

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RoY

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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Sorry!. I was Taking A Guess on Snitarium. And How About "Chop Your
Breakfast on a Mirror"(m.o.p),If thats not a drug reference I dont know
what is?.
RoY

Jeff Velten

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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DUH! MoP is supposed to be about how cocaine destroys your life, pay
attention to the lyrics!!!

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Brian

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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Disarm wrote:
>
> listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
> references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
> Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
> fine, that's your taste and opinion...

I can't completely deny that Metallica, or any of its members, use
heroin, but keep this in mind; there are references to war in many
'tallica songs, but we all know damned well that none of 'em ever fought
in the Army, right? Just food for thought....

Brian

Chris

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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In article <4vrhvt$t...@ratty.wolfe.net>, da...@wolfenet.con wrote:

> RoY <nancy...@gbd.com> wrote:
>
> >Disarm wrote:
> >>
> >> listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
> >> references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
> >> Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
> >> fine, that's your taste and opinion...
>

> >Theres also references to drug use in Master Of Puppets and Sanitarium
>
> Oh please, drug REFERENCES??? SANITARIUM???? Master Of Puppets was a
> song about drugs. "Taste me you will see/More is all you need" and
> "Master, Master/Where's the dreams that I've been after/Master,
> Master/ You promised only lies." The song was about some dude who
> tried drugs, got hooked, and lost everything.

- Exactly! Anyone who thinks that Metallica praises drug abuse doesn't
know jack about them, or their writing style!

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Disarm

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Aug 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/27/96
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in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
"the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
drugs...think about it...

Carl Mercier

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Aug 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/27/96
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RoY <nancy...@gbd.com> wrote:

>Disarm wrote:
>>
>> listen to "the house jack built" from load, it's got lot's of heroin
>> references, and they're is a couple of drug/alcohol references in Mama
>> Said, which is a great song, and i like it, and for those who don't,
>> fine, that's your taste and opinion...
>
>Theres also references to drug use in Master Of Puppets and Sanitarium

Does it really means they use heroin??? I don't think so... It's all against
drug...

Amoja Sumler

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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In article <3222AB...@sympatico.ca>, r...@sympatico.ca says...

>
>in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
>"the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
>drugs...think about it...


The House that Jack built is about Alcohol abuse ... and as for Mama
Said. I don't see any thing about that in there at all.

The Mo-Man


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Daniel Findley

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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Disarm (r...@sympatico.ca) wrote:
: in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
: "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
: drugs...think about it...

just two brief points, i'm tired of arguing with fuckwitts like you

for starters, THERE ARE NO DRUG REFERENCES IN SANITARIUM.

secondly, get out the cover of ...AJFA and read the lyrics to Harvester.
take special note of the following

...
drink up
shoot in (not sure of the exact words there)
let the beatings begin
distributor of pain
your loss becomes my gain
...

note jaymz says MY gain. therefore he is talking bout himself. which
means that you could say that along with being a junkie and alco, he is
also a wife beater and kid killer? GET SERIOUS

so, what happened to your agrument about they've become "bad" people on load?

think about it.

wooz

Jeff Velten

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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> in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
> "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
> drugs...think about it...

What the fuck does Mama Said have to do with drugs? It's about him being
alienated from his mother, dipshit!!! If you see any drug references
there, then I think *you're* the one doing smack.

Jesus Christ!

Where do they find these people?

damnijink

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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Disarm wrote:
>
> in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
> "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
> drugs...think about it...


Think about it? And with WHAT, may I ask, do you do your thinking? Oh, I
see, such the authority on junk - the lingo, the physical sensation, the
mental numbness, the whole fuckin' enchilada - could it be YOU do heroin?

Or are you pointing that textbook finger? Love them textbooks. Such an
educated lot we've become. !!!NOT!!!

The statement 'Metallica DOES heroin' is to imply that Metallica
currently and frequently partakes of the poppy of ill repute. Uh . .
.heheheeeheeehee.. and then you woke up, only to find you weren't in
Kansas any more. Oh, sorry, I mean - I don't quite agree with your
textbook diagnosis. Not to say any one or all of the guys has NEVER
indulged in any mind or other bodily part (hehe sounds kinky!) altering
substance, but get a fuckin grip.

Just shows ya what a talented and aware and sensitive artist/writer/human
being that James is since he can ignite your brain butane into conjuring
up these imaginative images and tweaky tales! As they said in Spaceballs
- "FOOLED YOU!!!"

Don't mean to out opinion your opinion with mine, and since I don't sleep
with them (one can only wish! - especially re:J.H.!) so I'm not the
unquestionable authority - but if you have followed Metallica for any
length of time or can synch with where they are echoin' from - then why
don't you edit your crap that you post here and we'll forget you had a
SLIGHT brain malfunction. Cool? Cool! c-ya & metal up yer ass
damnijink

BritanyRB

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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Their music would be ALLOT more psychadelic if they were drug users!\

Nik S Azam

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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Hello..
I read an interview a few years back on this matter. James said that
they were quite sick of all this "drug reference" shit by the fans after
they relesade MOP. James added that the song was about his fucked up
childhood or something..he did not get along well with his dad who was a
too fanatic christian..well, something like that anyway...
That's what I read...it was a long time ago, so I might be
mistaken..I don't know if they do drugs, but a little bit is ok, I
guess...as long as they don't "Kurt Cobain" themselves...

Demo...@terranet.net

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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Disarm wrote:
>
> in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
> "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
> drugs...think about it...

I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal band 'Evil-I'. We played for
our school on the first day this year. 2 songs into the set...we were
asked to leave because they said that we must be on drugs because our
lyrics to our songs are about death. Well, you can't judge a band by
their lyrics. If you don't know James, Kirk, Jason or Lars...who are
you to say that Metallica does drugs? I don't use drugs...but just
because I'm in a Metal band everybody thinks I am. This world judges
people too much...just enjoy the music:-).

JimmyD

Casey

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Aug 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/30/96
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>
> in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
> "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
> drugs...think about it...

Metallica doesn't do drugs. They seem like normal people to me. Just
give it up.
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RHines6647

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Sep 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/1/96
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If you watch the video. A Year in the Life of...., you would see Jaymz say
"We don't use drugs and keep the drinking under control( I know alcohol is
a drug so you can call him a hypocrite there). But I would find it hard
to believe that a band that tours as much as Metallica could exist if they
were druggies. Cocaine, speed, and heroin only work for so long before
they wear you down.

brandon of borge

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Sep 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/2/96
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RHines6647 (rhine...@aol.com) wrote:
: If you watch the video. A Year in the Life of...., you would see Jaymz say

i agree, and i have two points to add.

1) many of metallica's songs portray drugs in a negative context rather
than a positive one. i see no reason to accuse them of drug use (or
abuse) based on one song (which to me portrays heroin in a negative
context as well). as for mama said (the other song mentioned previously),
i see no drug references in that at all.

2) even if metallica *does* do drugs, does it really matter? it's not
like they're your best friends or anything.

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Daniel Findley

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Sep 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/2/96
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BritanyRB (brit...@aol.com) wrote:
: Their music would be ALLOT more psychadelic if they were drug users!\

kirk on speed, what a fucking scary thought :) as if he aint fast enough
already.

wooz

Schafer Family

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Sep 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/3/96
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Kirk doesn't really qualify as <FAST>. He seems a little on the take-my-time side.

Nick

Patrick C Mills

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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Disarm (r...@sympatico.ca) wrote:
: in MOP and Sanitarium, the drug references are about OTHER PEOPLE. in
: "the house jack built" and "mama said", it's about them doing
: drugs...think about it...

Where are the drug referrances in Sanitarium? I kinda thought the title
says exactly what the song is about... An just because words like "I" and
"me" are used in a song doesn't mean it's really about them. They're
talking from someone else's perspective. Anyone who's take any sort of
writing course can understand that concept...

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RHines6647 <rhine...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> If you watch the video. A Year in the Life of...., you would see Jaymz
say
> "We don't use drugs and keep the drinking under control( I know alcohol
is
> a drug so you can call him a hypocrite there). But I would find it hard
> to believe that a band that tours as much as Metallica could exist if
they
> were druggies. Cocaine, speed, and heroin only work for so long before
> they wear you down.
>


When James said "We don't use drugs" He ment street drugs! Yes alchohol
is a drug but not a street drug. So he is not a complete hypocrite there.


Casey

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Sep 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/6/96
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> RHines6647 <rhine...@aol.com> wrote in article
> <50d3mg$5...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>...
> > If you watch the video. A Year in the Life of...., you would see Jaymz
> say
> > "We don't use drugs and keep the drinking under control"

I was so glad to see that part of the video, because all my friends are
like "Metallica are satan worshippers and drug addicts" when I tell them
Metallica's my favorite group, which really pisses me off because I know
it's not true (them being junkies). Now I have a quote from the master
himself (James) just to tell them about. And RHines is right, after a
while drugs just wear you down, and so I seriously doubt metallica would
have made it for this long and gone on such long tours if they were
junkies.
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