Kill them all-why are songs missing
mitch...@msn.com
The original KeA CD has all the songs and is now very rare.
Joe wrote in message <344E7E81...@earthlink.net>...
>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>up to much space or anything
>
DDT
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:30:25 -0400, Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>up to much space or anything
>
The original Kill 'em all was dist. by Atlantic Recordings Inc.
The re-release of Kill 'em all was dist. by Electra records.
So, I'm assuming that the re-release ( Electra ) didn't have the
rights to publish the 2 other songs.
Jon-Eric Simmons
Wrong. The original release of Kill 'em All had only ten songs. The
extra 2 were added after signing with electra and releasing Ride The
Lightning. Then they were deleted for the thrid release (second from
electra). I'm not quite sure exactly why they were deleted.
Later...
-Jon-Eric Simmons
jsim...@compassnet.com
Jamie F. McNett
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Joe wrote:
> does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
> & am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> up to much space or anything
>
>
>
As far as I know, Am I Evil and Blitzkreig were nopt available in the
US...just Europe. That help?
-Andrew
M.B.
Jon-Eric Simmons wrote:
> Wrong. The original release of Kill 'em All had only ten songs. The
> extra 2 were added after signing with electra and releasing Ride The
> Lightning. Then they were deleted for the thrid release (second from
> electra). I'm not quite sure exactly why they were deleted.
> Later...
This is accurate. The two extra tracks were dropped in late 1992. My
theory is that the band and record company at that time were already
planning to seek a favorable response from the rising alternative
audience, and therefore wanted to sever any ties to the New Wave Of
British Heavy Metal (which the bands Diamondhead and Blitzkrieg were
part of), as acknowledging such influences might alienate grunge
listeners, and hurt Metallica's commercial appeal.
--
"If they're just 'doing what they want,' why did they wait until that
kind of music was popular to do it?"
--BurnBible
DDT
No I bought the cd and tape here in the USA.
I no longer have the cd. ( %^^%*%%%$$##)
Richard Benigne
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:10:43 -0700, <mitch...@msn.com> wrote:
>The original KeA CD has all the songs and is now very rare.
>
>
>Joe wrote in message <344E7E81...@earthlink.net>...
>>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>>up to much space or anything
>>
>
>
NO IT DOES NOT DUMBASS!!!!!
Richard Benigne
>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>up to much space or anything
>
OK here goes.
Kill 'em all was originally released in 1983 on Megaforce with 10
tracks. Hit the Lights, The four Horsemen, Motorbreath, Jump in the
fire, whiplash, pulling teeth, phantom lord, no remorse, seek and
destroy and metal militia.
when the band signed with elektra, KEA was not released on that label
until 1988, with the two bonus tracks. It was then re-released on
Elektra without the two bonus tracks.
as far as cd's go, the megaforce is rarest. next rarest would be the
12 track version, then the newer version with 10 tracks also.
Technecally, there are 2 versions of the elektra release with 10
tracks. the first just on elektra, and the second on E/M ventures, the
result of the big lawsuit Metallica had with elektra. you can tell
these two apart because, the e/m ventures release will say so on the
disc, and the cd package will include Metclub info....any other
questions?
Richard Benigne
On 23 Oct 1997 12:08:02 GMT, "Freaky" <j.goo...@student.utwente.nl>
wrote:
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>DDT <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in article
><344e9d39...@news.penn.com>...
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:30:25 -0400, Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>> >& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>> >up to much space or anything
>> >
>> The original Kill 'em all was dist. by Atlantic Recordings Inc.
>> The re-release of Kill 'em all was dist. by Electra records.
>>
>> So, I'm assuming that the re-release ( Electra ) didn't have the
>> rights to publish the 2 other songs.
>>
>That's right! There are only a few copies by Atlantic Records which contain
>these songs. If you have this album, it's worth a lot of money.....
>
Not really
Eric Haarbauer
Yeah, Hit the Lights and Seek and Destroy have great potentials to be MTV
Buzz Bin clips! Whatever....
-eric
M.B. wrote in message <344F9B...@idt.net>...
Atrion BlackHeart
Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>up to much space or anything
Maybe cause you got the _real original_ version of Kill 'em all, that
doesn't include Blitzkreig and Am I evil? They were done after as
covers and included later to the album.
Message78
>"NWOBHM bands are punk!" -AHarris
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>-Daemonic
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>"kirk is technical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!11!1!!!11"
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Thank you very much for making me remember that idiot I laughed my ass off. I
wonder what happened to that reject oh well.
"Justice is lost justice is raped justice is gone pulling your strings justice
is done."
DDT
On 23 Oct 1997 17:25:01 -0700, Hot...@primenet.com (Richard Benigne)
wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:30:25 -0400, Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>>up to much space or anything
>>
>OK here goes.
>Kill 'em all was originally released in 1983 on Megaforce with 10
>tracks. Hit the Lights, The four Horsemen, Motorbreath, Jump in the
>fire, whiplash, pulling teeth, phantom lord, no remorse, seek and
>destroy and metal militia.
>when the band signed with elektra, KEA was not released on that label
>until 1988, with the two bonus tracks. It was then re-released on
>Elektra without the two bonus tracks.
>
>as far as cd's go, the megaforce is rarest. next rarest would be the
>12 track version, then the newer version with 10 tracks also.
>Technecally, there are 2 versions of the elektra release with 10
>tracks. the first just on elektra, and the second on E/M ventures, the
>result of the big lawsuit Metallica had with elektra. you can tell
>these two apart because, the e/m ventures release will say so on the
>disc, and the cd package will include Metclub info....any other
>questions?
>
Why not post this without insulting other posters??
>WRONG FUCKING ANSWER
You are toooooooo cooooool
al
Atrion BlackHeart <atr...@geocities.com> wrote in article
<62oklc$fs5$2...@blackice.winternet.com>...
> Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
> >& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> >up to much space or anything
>
> Maybe cause you got the _real original_ version of Kill 'em all, that
> doesn't include Blitzkreig and Am I evil? They were done after as
> covers and included later to the album.
>
>
wrong...other way around. it's the new version that doesn't have the songs.
al
Richard Benigne <Hot...@primenet.com> wrote in article
<344fe9f3...@news.primenet.com>...
> On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:10:43 -0700, <mitch...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >The original KeA CD has all the songs and is now very rare.
> >
> >
> >Joe wrote in message <344E7E81...@earthlink.net>...
> >>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing
blitzkreig
> >>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would
take
> >>up to much space or anything
> >>
> >
> >
> NO IT DOES NOT DUMBASS!!!!!
>
>
Wait a sec...this is a pretty valid question. The reason the two songs are
missing is that they are covers of other bands and, when Metallica switched
record labels they no longer could distribute them on the album.
Ali
Outlaw Torn
Joe wrote in article <344E7E81...@earthlink.net>...
>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>up to much space or anything
>
I have two Kill 'Em All CD's and they both have Am I Evil & Blitzkrieg
on them. If you buy the new re-released re-mastered one, it doesn't have
those songs on it.
HVMTL
I've seen one person who has the right info here.
Kill em all was originally released by Megaforce records ( As was Ride the
lightning & Whiplash ). The uk originals were on Music for nations ( As were
the Creeping death & Jump in the fire ep's)
When Electra signed the band & bought the rights to the first two lp's, they
wanted to add bonus tracks to boost sales. The bonus tracks were licensed from
Music for nations (Taken from the Creeping death ep) for a set period of time.
Outlaw Torn
al wrote in article <01bce0ac$d4ee1220$d71a...@bmtn1.verdi.nv.us>...
>Wait a sec...this is a pretty valid question. The reason the two songs are
>missing is that they are covers of other bands and, when Metallica switched
>record labels they no longer could distribute them on the album.
Megaforce records never released a CD. CD's didn't really hit the
market big untill 1986. (Dire Straits's brothers in arms, was pretty much
the first ROCk CD) Metallica Signed with Elektra in 1986, Elektra released
Puppets, and re-released the first two albums (Kill 'Em All, and Lightning)
The first release of Kill 'Em All (in 1983) Didn't have Blitzkrieg or Am I
Evil on it (The release by Megaforce) The re-release (in 1986 or so) on
Elektra records did have them. Now, the new ones don't.
Richard Benigne
Actually they did release it on cd. I own it. It looks like the
Elektra version, but the back cover is white.
Metallica signed with Elektra in 1984.......
KEA wasn't re-released until 1988
Richard Benigne
Finally someone else who KNOWS what happened.
Richard Benigne
O
>Wait a sec...this is a pretty valid question. The reason the two songs are
>missing is that they are covers of other bands and, when Metallica switched
>record labels they no longer could distribute them on the album.
>
Wrong answer again
the songs were not included until 1988, well after they switched
record labels.also the songs were not included on any megaforce U.S.
release ever
Richard Benigne
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:00:39 GMT, nob...@nowhere.com (DDT) wrote:
>On 23 Oct 1997 17:25:01 -0700, Hot...@primenet.com (Richard Benigne)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:30:25 -0400, Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
>>>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
>>>up to much space or anything
>>>
>>OK here goes.
>>Kill 'em all was originally released in 1983 on Megaforce with 10
>>tracks. Hit the Lights, The four Horsemen, Motorbreath, Jump in the
>>fire, whiplash, pulling teeth, phantom lord, no remorse, seek and
>>destroy and metal militia.
>>when the band signed with elektra, KEA was not released on that label
>>until 1988, with the two bonus tracks. It was then re-released on
>>Elektra without the two bonus tracks.
>>
>>as far as cd's go, the megaforce is rarest. next rarest would be the
>>12 track version, then the newer version with 10 tracks also.
>>Technecally, there are 2 versions of the elektra release with 10
>>tracks. the first just on elektra, and the second on E/M ventures, the
>>result of the big lawsuit Metallica had with elektra. you can tell
>>these two apart because, the e/m ventures release will say so on the
>>disc, and the cd package will include Metclub info....any other
>>questions?
>>
> Why not post this without insulting other posters??
>>WRONG FUCKING ANSWER
>
>You are toooooooo cooooool
Because posting misinformation is what procures others to pass it
along as valid, thats why.
RICHARD W. GOGOLIN
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Jamie F. McNett wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Joe wrote:
>
> > does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
> > & am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> > up to much space or anything
> >
> >
> >
> As far as I know, Am I Evil and Blitzkreig were nopt available in the
> US...just Europe. That help?
>
> -Andrew
>
>
>
I believe they were done by different distributers. Why the later
distributer decided to cut them, well I don't know.
M.B.
Matthew Smith wrote:
>
> M.B. (mic...@idt.net) wrote:
> : Jon-Eric Simmons wrote:
> :
> : > Wrong. The original release of Kill 'em All had only ten songs. The
> : > extra 2 were added after signing with electra and releasing Ride The
> : > Lightning. Then they were deleted for the thrid release (second from
> : > electra). I'm not quite sure exactly why they were deleted.
> : > Later...
> : This is accurate. The two extra tracks were dropped in late 1992. My
> : theory is that the band and record company at that time were already
> : planning to seek a favorable response from the rising alternative
> : audience, and therefore wanted to sever any ties to the New Wave Of
> : British Heavy Metal (which the bands Diamondhead and Blitzkrieg were
> : part of), as acknowledging such influences might alienate grunge
> : listeners, and hurt Metallica's commercial appeal.
>
> weekend.
"Helpless" ACOUTSTIC? Yick...I wonder what the guys in Diamondhead
think of this...
kevin thompson
You're wrong on the Megaforce point: I have a Megaforce
pressing of Kill 'Em All, labeled MRI CD 069, Megaforce
Records, Inc. It's the genuine issue... Cd's weren't big
before '86 or so, i agree, but there were a few. I bet the
KEA cd is a real rarety, being both an independent label and
an early cd.
Jonas Ohlsson
al wrote:
> =
> Atrion BlackHeart <atr...@geocities.com> wrote in article
> <62oklc$fs5$2...@blackice.winternet.com>...
> > Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzk=
reig
> > >& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would =
take
> > >up to much space or anything
> >
> > Maybe cause you got the _real original_ version of Kill 'em all, that=
> > doesn't include Blitzkreig and Am I evil? They were done after as
> > covers and included later to the album.
> >
> >
> =
> wrong...other way around. it's the new version that doesn't have the so=
ngs.
WRONG! Blitzkrieg and Am I Evil was originally the B-sides of the
Creeping Death single, and later they were added on Kill 'Em All
as bonus tracks
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AutoMech77
Kill Em All was re- released in 1988 with the two bonus tracks Blitzkrieg and
Am I Evil? on tape and cd, as far as I know. Was there a vinyl version?
Garden Botanika
yes it came out on vinyl
Seroussi <sero...@algonet.se> wrote in article
<34590F05...@algonet.se>...
> Yes, there was also the AOL version, especially for idiotic aolers who
can't
> use their fucking web browser to look for information themselves...
>
>
>
>
> Don't take it too seriously, though...
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Garden Botanika
Elecktra doesn't have the license for them. they now only hold the rights
for the original version of kill em all- megaforce label kill em all didn't
have those songs. this all changed when metallica re-negotioated their
record contract.
Jonas Ohlsson <jzt...@algonet.se> wrote in article
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al wrote:
>
> Atrion BlackHeart <atr...@geocities.com> wrote in article
> <62oklc$fs5$2...@blackice.winternet.com>...
> > Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing
blitzkreig
> > >& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would
take
> > >up to much space or anything
> >
> > Maybe cause you got the _real original_ version of Kill 'em all, that
> > doesn't include Blitzkreig and Am I evil? They were done after as
> > covers and included later to the album.
> >
> >
>
> wrong...other way around. it's the new version that doesn't have the
songs.
WRONG! Blitzkrieg and Am I Evil was originally the B-sides of the
Creeping Death single, and later they were added on Kill 'Em All
as bonus tracks
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* Feels Like There's Nothing Left Inside * Now? *
* - Max Cavalera * - Burton C. Bell *
*****************************************************************
* It Comes In Spades * Cut Out * Fuck *
* From A Life of Pain * My * It *
* I Don't Care 'Cause * Tongue * All *
* I Don't Give A Fuck * My Mind * And *
* It Tears A Path Right * Still * Fucking *
* Through Me * Speaks * No Regrets *
* - Robb Flynn * - Patrik Wirén * - James Hetfield *
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cwereley
Hi all,
Well I live in Canada and the vinyl megaforce in the old days, (canadian release
anyway) had these two cover songs on it. My UK pic disc import does not have the
cover tunes on em. When I picked up the cd (can't remember when) it had the two
cover songs on it. Now these are tough to find. Good luck finding a cd with
these two tracks on it. Some bootleg cd's I have seen have these cover songs on
em with good cd quality.
Later
rcog...@gmail.com
>
> > does anyone know why the cd version of kill em all is missing blitzkreig
> > & am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> > up to much space or anything
> >
> >
> >
> US...just Europe. That help?
>
> -Andrew
rsn...@brickhousesecurity.com
> The original KeA CD has all the songs and is now very rare.
>
>
> Joe wrote in message <344E7E81...@earthlink.net>...
> >& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> >up to much space or anything
> >
Rob Del Medico
Jimi Bush
> >On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:30:25 -0400, Joe <yukon...@earthlink.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>& am i evil? i was just wondering.it's not like those 2 songs would take
> >>up to much space or anything
> >>
> >The re-release of Kill 'em all was dist. by Electra records.
> >
> >So, I'm assuming that the re-release ( Electra ) didn't have the
> >rights to publish the 2 other songs.
> extra 2 were added after signing with electra and releasing Ride The
> Lightning. Then they were deleted for the thrid release (second from
> electra). I'm not quite sure exactly why they were deleted.
> Later...
> jsim...@compassnet.com
The album got censored and they were removed. Part of the right wing Christian movement of the 1980s. Poison had an "offensive" cover recalled back then too... "I've got something to say, I killed your baby today" and "Am I Evil? Yes I am!" were just WAY too much for the conservatives back then...