Answer: Gettin' kicked out of metallica
The bloddy motherfucker can't even do a solo correct.
MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS 
: Answer: Gettin' kicked out of metallica
Well, That was the first thing good that dave mustaine has done. Without 
getting kicked out there would be no megadeth.
Megadeth is not a copy of metallica. The two bands sound different. 
Lyrically, Megadeth imho is about a million times better than metallica.
: The bloddy motherfucker can't even do a solo correct.
: MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS 
Musically. Being a guitar player myself, Liking both metallica and Megadeth
I can say you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Now...
Take this for example. Dave Mustaine is in the same position as James 
hetfield. He really isnt there to add solos unless he feels like he needs to.
Marty Freidman is there for that. Now. If you take any solo that james 
hetfield has made, listened to it, and any solo Dave Mustaine has made, 
listened to it. You would see the different styles. Now, if you were to 
attempt to play the James Hetfield solo<lol>, You would probably be able 
to do it quite easily. If you were to attempt to do a Mustaine solo, I 
think you would #1 have a problem with it, and #2 respect him much more.
Now, I'm not talking about Youthanasia crap that everyone tends to 
associate with Megadeth and Solos and Music, Sure, youthanasia is 
probably one of the better megadeth albums musically, but yes, it sucks. 
But you know what, Metallica's new album is even worse from what I've 
heard of it. Listen to Peace Sells, So Far So Good So What and Rust In 
Peace <most likely this album>, And compare the styles, You cannot say 
that megadeth is a metallica clone, <you couldnt anyways, the first few 
metallica albums they used alot of crap dave mustaine wrote to complete 
songs, dave was one of em at first too, created their style> they have 
their own very distinct style, and heh. They can actually play their 
songs correct live without any problems whatsoever.
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>MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS
Fuck you very much indeed.
>I have found out that megadeth sucks because of they're just a very bad 
>copy of metallica. They'va got very bad lyrics their productions sucks 
>The only good thing Dave Mustaine have done is? guess
>Answer: Gettin' kicked out of metallica
>The bloddy motherfucker can't even do a solo correct.
>MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS MEGADETH SUCKS
Ohh dude,  Metallica's lyics now adays have the word Yeah Yeah and
even more Yeah Just listen to Sandman or Wolf and Man!.  While DAVE'S
lyics in the 90's are much more deep, grapic and uses big words that I
don't even understand.
For the record, they are both equally great.
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Don't get me wrong, I like Megadeth a lot, but Metallica are light years 
ahead.  Hetfield is the best metal rhythm guitarist in the world, bar 
none.  Although Megadeth are more technical than Metallica, Metallica are 
much better song writers than 'Deth.
>Don't get me wrong, I like Megadeth a lot, but Metallica are light years 
>ahead.  Hetfield is the best metal rhythm guitarist in the world, bar 
>none.  Although Megadeth are more technical than Metallica, Metallica are 
>much better song writers than 'Deth.
You must be kidding. Think about it for a second and then read the
words to a Metallica song and then a Megadeth song. There is a
distinct difference, but saying that one is a better song writer over
the other is crazy. They are different types of band and I truely
enjoy both. However, the lyrics which Megadeth produces makes me think
(Family Tree, Thought I Knew.. from Youth). Youth was lyrically a
great CD and the music was flawless, although not a "fast" as some
would have liked. 
Metallica will always be a good band, but something has happended to
them. I can't pinpoint it, but I think they are concentrating on
having fun. Which is just fine, if you produce music consistently and
regularly. I feel that Megadeth strives to be better musicians so CDs
come out regularly. Megadeth has produced 3 good albums in the past
six years, while Metallica has produced 1. You must take that into
consideration. 
If you ask me who I listen to, I will tell you that I prefer Megadeth
because of the uniqueness of the music and the constant influx of CDs
from them. I will buy the new Metallica and probably enjoy it, but
then, over the next six years (1996+), I will listen to the new
Megadeth albums (next album est. Winter 1996) while waiting on the
newest Metallica CD (est. year 2002).
Chris
Not equal. Metallica is better. They're just slow about putting out new 
albums.
 
Nick
> zka...@vt.edu (Ziad Kanna) wrote:
> 
> >Don't get me wrong, I like Megadeth a lot, but Metallica are light years 
> >ahead.  Hetfield is the best metal rhythm guitarist in the world, bar 
> >none.  Although Megadeth are more technical than Metallica, Metallica are 
> >much better song writers than 'Deth.
I'm thinking about something... Lead guitarists usually are better then
Rythm guitarists, right? Why the hell was Dave the lead guitarist if he
wasn't better then Jaymz! Jaymz is bar none NOT the best. Marty Friedman
is leaps and bounds better then Jaymz, Dave and Kirk... Just listen to one
of his solo CDs.
I really think the riffs on the last Metallica CD sucked bigtime. Really
short and plain. I was listening to Sad But True on the radio... 
EJ
> In article <4joolo$t...@news.mcl.bdm.com>, cjus...@bdm.com (Christopher E.
> Justice) wrote:
> 
> > zka...@vt.edu (Ziad Kanna) wrote:
> > 
> > >Don't get me wrong, I like Megadeth a lot, but Metallica are light years 
> > >ahead.  Hetfield is the best metal rhythm guitarist in the world, bar 
> > >none.  Although Megadeth are more technical than Metallica, Metallica are 
> > >much better song writers than 'Deth.
I disagree.  Mustaine, Scott Ian (Anthrax), and Spike Cassidy (D.R.I.) are 
all better than Hetfield.  And Metallica's song-writing dropped about ten 
notches on their self-titled album.  Sure, it compares with the stuff 
from the first album, but they had advanced WAY beyond that on Puppets 
and Justice, so doing all those simple songs when they knew how to do 
much better just doesn't cut it for me.
> I'm thinking about something... Lead guitarists usually are better then
> Rythm guitarists, right? 
Not necessarily.  Lead guitarists are better solo players, and rhythm 
guitarists are better at playing rhythms (case in point: Mustaine had to 
teach Friedman how to play better rhythm).
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I totally disagree that the above metioned guitarists are better rhythm 
players than Hetfield.  Hetfield produces pure genious when he plays, he 
plays stuff so unique, that I don't think Mustaine has the ingenuity to 
come up with it.  
I haven't done this Usnet thing for ages, so I got this bit of the message from a RE 
(as you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see) but I had to reply to it:
What the hell is up your arse? MetallicA have sold metal down the tubes, while Deth 
are sticking to their guns and taking us into the next century (well, kinda, that 
sounds good!). I don't know what you think, but MetallicA's attempt to become popular 
is just making me sick! Their new hair-do's are just stupid, and as for this whole 
country-music thing... I'm at a loss. Their Donnington performance was dire (I didn't 
go, although I tried, but I got it on the Radio) and the next album will just be 
crap. I think that Mustaine was luck to get out when he did, well, he coulda left it 
till after Justice I guess....
L8r,
	Afroman
YEAH DUDE, WHATEVER! DO US ALL A FAVOR, BUY A CLUE!
I cannot see how someone can even compare Hetfield to Mustaine. Metallica
has always been stuck on 3 string chords and open E palm muting. I cant
even think of a metallica song that I've found creative. Sure, some of
them rock, but nothing after Master (after cliff died) has been worth a
damn musically. It seems cliff brough a lot of influence into tht band and
they've lost it since then. not to knock your favorite band,
metallicaboys, but There is now way in hell hetfield is better. Ever hear
how low they have his guitar live? He must fuck up a hell of alot while
playing. Megadeth have always tried to stray away from the basic chords
that most bands are stuck with today, They always put out a rocking song
(with the exception of the glammy type songs on Youthanasia ex: elysian
fields) but besides that they've brought a lot to me musically. Another
point to make, Go look at some megadeth tab, I'm not talking about
Symphony or shit of youthanasia, go look at some Rust in Peace, So Far So
Good So What and Peace Sells tab, check out how complicated that is, Go to
a Megadeth show, and hear them reproduce that sound almost perfectly live.
It's amazing how they do it, I couldnt play 2 hours of Megadeth faster
than live recording straight through while singing, but its amazing.
Mustaine writes almost 100% of Megadeth's music and he can rip off a solo
too =).
 --Jim
Colin Reid (re...@HERCULES.CS.UREGINA.CA) wrote:
: On 3 Apr 1996, Eric Jorgensen wrote:
: > In article <4joolo$t...@news.mcl.bdm.com>, cjus...@bdm.com (Christopher E.
: > Justice) wrote:
: > 
: > > zka...@vt.edu (Ziad Kanna) wrote:
: > > 
: > > >Don't get me wrong, I like Megadeth a lot, but Metallica are light years 
: > > >ahead.  Hetfield is the best metal rhythm guitarist in the world, bar 
: > > >none.  Although Megadeth are more technical than Metallica, Metallica are 
: > > >much better song writers than 'Deth.
: I disagree.  Mustaine, Scott Ian (Anthrax), and Spike Cassidy (D.R.I.) are 
: all better than Hetfield.  And Metallica's song-writing dropped about ten 
: notches on their self-titled album.  Sure, it compares with the stuff 
: from the first album, but they had advanced WAY beyond that on Puppets 
: and Justice, so doing all those simple songs when they knew how to do 
: much better just doesn't cut it for me.
: > I'm thinking about something... Lead guitarists usually are better then
You can as complex as you want to be, but it all comes down to 
SONGWRITING, and Hetfield blows away Mustaine, it's no contest!  Mustaine 
sucks at soloing, listen to Master of Puppets, Orion, or My Friend of 
Misery, those solos have more emotion in them than Mustaine ever had in 
all his writing in his entire career!  As far as speed is concerned, who 
do you think came out on top when Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine would 
have a downpicking jam when Mustaine was still a part of Metallica?  You 
guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield!
Hey man! MetallicA may be pretty shit now, but Justice was a *Damn Good* album, don't 
knock it!
>r>Mustaine writes almost 100% of Megadeth's music and he can rip off a 
>r>solo
Yeah, Dave made the band, I think that what you said was crap on Youth coulda been 
down to Dave letting the others do stuff as well, bad move, he's just too good!
>You can as complex as you want to be, but it all comes down to 
>SONGWRITING, and Hetfield blows away Mustaine, it's no contest!  Mustaine 
>sucks at soloing, listen to Master of Puppets, Orion, or My Friend of 
>Misery, those solos have more emotion in them than Mustaine ever had in 
>all his writing in his entire career!  As far as speed is concerned, who 
>do you think came out on top when Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine would 
>have a downpicking jam when Mustaine was still a part of Metallica?  You 
>guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield!
Yeah, yeah! Yeah, yeah! Yeah, yeah! I'm cool, I like Country & Western! I kicked Dave 
out cos I was too pussy to keep up!
Zaid, just accept it, posting Megadeth Sucks on alt.r-n-r.m.megadeth was not cool! 
But at least it gave us somthing to talk about!
BTW- D'you know a guy called Jawad (paki...@vt.edu previously mb...@vt.edu)? Does 
he still like rap? 
Hear from you soon I guess,
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Who likes Country?  VERY stupid statement.
r>Zaid, just accept it, posting Megadeth Sucks on alt.r-n-r.m.megadeth 
was not cool! 
Trust me, being cool in your eyes is the last thing that I am looking to 
do.  Mainly because I don't give a rat's ass.
Your hero Hetfield! He spent most of his Metal Hammer (a UK Metal Monthly) talking 
about how hw liked it and how some of the songs on LOAD were influenced by it! That's 
bloody who! And yes, saying that you like C&W IS a Stupid statment, But it wasn't me 
that said it, was it?
>
>r>Zaid, just accept it, posting Megadeth Sucks on alt.r-n-r.m.megadeth 
>was not cool! 
>Trust me, being cool in your eyes is the last thing that I am looking to 
>do.  Mainly because I don't give a rat's ass.
Yeah, I bet you enjoyed the flames too!
        Afroman.
BTW- What did Jawad say?
> You can as complex as you want to be, but it all comes down to 
> SONGWRITING, and Hetfield blows away Mustaine, it's no contest!  Mustaine 
> sucks at soloing, listen to Master of Puppets, Orion, or My Friend of 
> Misery, those solos have more emotion in them than Mustaine ever had in 
> all his writing in his entire career!  As far as speed is concerned, who 
> do you think came out on top when Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine would 
> have a downpicking jam when Mustaine was still a part of Metallica?  You 
> guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield!
> 
What sort of an agrument do you call this?  You have given no real 
examples as to why you believe anything you have said to be true.  
Personally, I think that Megadeth are superior to Metallica and you're 
entitled to your own opinion, but to my mind, an opinion isn't worth shit 
if it isn't backed with examples as to why such an opinion has been 
held.  Which is where your "agrument" fails.
Smutty.
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Right...Ok...so the solos in Hangar 18 were flukes? The end solo in Holy 
Wars wasn't actually Dave? And his part in A Tout Le Monde was studio 
trickery? Get a grip man...
 listen to Master of Puppets, Orion, or My Friend of 
> Misery,
Yep, they're cool solos...most of which played by Kirk Hammet, but that's 
not the point is it? It justy shows that you think Ki...um...James is 
God...please! 
 those solos have more emotion in them than Mustaine ever had in 
> all his writing in his entire career!
Yep...Nothing Else Matters had me in tears...where as A Tout Le Monde, 
just made me think what a pansy Dave Mustaine really is...
  As far as speed is concerned, who 
> do you think came out on top when Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine would 
> have a downpicking jam when Mustaine was still a part of Metallica?  You 
> guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield!
Hmmm...lets just comparte shall we...down picking...all speed? I don't 
think so...I play guitar and yes, down picking is hard...but even James 
uses alternate picking (ie the fast rhythm to One)...but lets just see 
shall we....Mechanix v's The Four Horsemen. Both good songs (main riff 
written by D.M)...on album, which one is quicker? Hmm...let me see!!! 
Holy Wars...The Punishment Due v Anything off the black album (both made 
at roughly the same time)...no question...Dave is the better rhythm 
guitarist without a shadow of doubt, he can write quick down pickers (ie 
Tornado Of Souls, which is quick down picks, and faster chord changes 
than most Metallica stuff - if you don`t believe me, I can play most 
Metallica and Megadeth, and I know which one I find the most exhilirating 
to play)...Hetfield is a good songwriter, so is Dave Mustaine, but it 
comes to playing, Dave is far superior...why do you think he was lead 
guitar in Metallica???
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> As far as speed is concerned, who do you think came out on top when
> Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine would have a downpicking jam when Mustaine
> was still a part of Metallica?  You guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield! 
Hammett and Mustaine were never in the band at the same time dude. And
what the hell is a downpicking jam anyway? You see who can downpick the
most in a minute? You're gonna have to bullshit better than that if you 
want anybody to believe you.
The bottom line is Mustaine and Hetfield are both excellent guitarists. 
Of course, Mustaine is better technically, and he can rip out an awesome
solo too. But of course, everybody and their sister listens to Metallica,
so they are all going to say otherwise. Just ask anybody who knows what
they are talking about, Megadeth destroys Metallica hands down.
: Are you sure? I have an ancient MetallicA pic with the two of them standing next to 
: each other, and the MTV Rockumentary disagrees with you too....
What are you watching?  Dave was sent home on a bus, the same day that Krk
was flown up.  Krk even used Dave's equipment for a while.
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>Hammett and Mustaine were never in the band at the same time dude. And
Are you sure? I have an ancient MetallicA pic with the two of them standing next to 
each other, and the MTV Rockumentary disagrees with you too....
>The bottom line is Mustaine and Hetfield are both excellent guitarists. 
>Of course, Mustaine is better technically, and he can rip out an awesome
>solo too. But of course, everybody and their sister listens to Metallica,
>so they are all going to say otherwise. Just ask anybody who knows what
>they are talking about, Megadeth destroys Metallica hands down.
YEP!
	Afroman.
Actually, you're an idiot.  What do you call the songs I listed as to why 
I think Hetfield is better?  Those are examples you foolish person.  Your 
post was very silly, and you have no argument, so you fail right away.  
Why don't you get more than a fourth grade education and then you'll be 
able to pick out examples in a sentence that back up an argument.
-- 
"Doesn't matter what you see
    Or into it what you read
You can do it your own way
    If it's done just how I say"  (James Hetfield, EOB)
r>
r> listen to Master of Puppets, Orion, or My Friend of 
r>> Misery,
r>
r>Yep, they're cool solos...most of which played by Kirk Hammet, but 
that's 
r>not the point is it? It justy shows that you think Ki...um...James is 
r>God...please! 
Uh no, if you actually did know something about Metallica, you'd know 
that the slower solos Master of Puppets and Orion were played by 
Hetfield, and so is the one played in My Friend of Misery.  Also listen 
to the middle section of To Live is to Die, Hetfield plays that solo too.
r>  As far as speed is concerned, who 
r>> do you think came out on top when Hammett, Hetfield and Mustaine 
would 
r>> have a downpicking jam when Mustaine was still a part of Metallica?  
You 
r>> guessed it, The Almighty Hetfield!
r>
r>Hmmm...lets just comparte shall we...down picking...all speed? I don't 
r>think so...I play guitar and yes, down picking is hard...but even James 
r>uses alternate picking (ie the fast rhythm to One)...but lets just see 
r>shall we....Mechanix v's The Four Horsemen. Both good songs (main riff 
r>written by D.M)...on album, which one is quicker? Hmm...let me see!!! 
r>Holy Wars...The Punishment Due v Anything off the black album (both 
made 
r>at roughly the same time)...no question...Dave is the better rhythm 
r>guitarist without a shadow of doubt, he can write quick down pickers 
(ie 
r>Tornado Of Souls, which is quick down picks, and faster chord changes 
r>than most Metallica stuff - if you don`t believe me, I can play most 
r>Metallica and Megadeth, and I know which one I find the most 
exhilirating 
r>to play)...Hetfield is a good songwriter, so is Dave Mustaine, but it 
r>comes to playing, Dave is far superior...why do you think he was lead 
r>guitar in Metallica???
Well, that was what, 14 years ago!?!  Anyway, as far as I'm concerned 
it's harder to write a kick ass riff than it is to come up with an 
awesome solo.
I guess you're too afraid to send me something to my e-mail address.  
Call me what you will, but you're the one who is a pussy around here.
You are a coward with nothing important to say.
FUCK YEAH!!!!  HERE, HERE....THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S 
TALKING ABOUT!	
Singing? I wouldn't call "Whiplash" singing, and "Jump In The Fire"? 
Hmm...try listening to "In My Darkest Hour" now that's palying guitar and 
singing...
 Hetfield's SINGING is 
> R>what marks him out as superior to Mustaine. Every time Dave sings it's 
> R>like he's got some kind of heavy duty G-Clamp attached to his balls, 
> and 
> R>its getting tighter and tighter...
Yeah James has a better singing voice, doesn`t make him a better 
guitarist which is what this thread was about in the first place.
> R>        Did you see the way his face got screwed up on the Revolver 
> R>video when they were recording Youthanasia?
Yep actual emotion in a song...must come across as being strange.
> R>        Hetfields voice is easily one of the best in the rock world 
> R>today - why else did Queen choose him to sing in place of the great 
> R>Freddy Mercury at their tribute concert?
Because they're one of the biggest hyped  bands of the decade. Heck 
you'll be 
telling me next that Slash is a better guitarist than Marty Friedman next...
> R>        Coupled with Hetfield's awesome ability to play earth-shaking 
> R>riffs whilst singing at the same time,
Love to see him try "Holy Wars...The Punishment Due"...hmm...if he cannot 
get into synch with Kirk on the Live Shit and Binge playing the Four 
Horsemen, then what chance has he got with that one?
 his superoir song-writing 
> R>ability,
In what way? Better melody...hmmm? More intelligent...equally so, I would 
say at best with DM...heavier? Not now.
 and the magical communication between the band when they play 
> R>together,
Refer you to previous bit on Four Horsemen on Live Shit and Binge - yep, 
practically David Copperfield.
 it is easy to see why Metallica are so much better at what 
> R>they do than Megadeth.
> 
Hmmm...an opinion at least it did have some semblance of an argument 
behind it as opposed to...
> FUCK YEAH!!!!  HERE, HERE....THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S 
> TALKING ABOUT!	
> -- 
...this. Oh great...let's make a count of how many people think the sun 
shines out of JH arsehole shall we? And please, if you're gonna flame me, 
have a decent argument ready, one that isn`t full of holes, and be 
willing to see the other side, and admit their mistakes, I've done it 
with Megadeth, but having you head shoved up Lars' backside, is not my 
idea of a fan.
METAL HEAD
Firstly, I'd like to make a little observation:
Even if, on a *really, really, really* cold day in Hell MetallicA were "better" than 
Megadeth, then it's still not anyreason to say that Megadeth "sucks"! So you'd better 
find another angle!
In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.960511222238.2744B-100000@leofric>, l...@coventry.ac.uk 
says...
>> R>Because Hetfield was SINGING and playing rhythm.
>Singing? I wouldn't call "Whiplash" singing, and "Jump In The Fire"? 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
To the guy that wrote this bit, I'm sorry that your getting this in your mail, it's 
not really mean for you, cos I'm gonna agree with almost everything that you say. But 
I also have to say, that there's nothing *wrong* with Whiplash, it's a great song, 
even if there is no real singing.
>> R>        Hetfields voice is easily one of the best in the rock world 
>> R>today - why else did Queen choose him to sing in place of the great 
>> R>Freddy Mercury at their tribute concert?
I'm gonna get flamed for this bit, but I really don't think that singing with Queen 
is anything to be proud of, espically for somone that's as talented as Hetfield!!
>telling me next that Slash is a better guitarist than Marty Friedman next...
<GRIN>
> his superoir song-writing 
>> R>ability,
C'Mon, almost all the best MetallicA stuff was co-written by one or more of the other 
band members, while most of Megadeth's stuff (not that it matters who's better, but 
while we're talking about it) is written completly by Mustaine. 
>In what way? Better melody...hmmm? More intelligent...equally so, I would 
>say at best with DM...heavier? Not now.
Might as well go to a Sinead O'Connor concert <G>
> and the magical communication between the band when they play
Yeah right!!!! OK, look, that's kinda a general statment, but while on the European 
leg of the 'No Where Else to Roam' tour, they played *EXACTLY* the same gig at 
(almost) every single venue. Even the stuff that Hetfield said to the people in the 
audience when he went down to "give them 5" was the same! "We gotta find one more 
crazy motherfucker... one more crazy motherfucker" or somthing like that! It's not 
bloody communication, it's just reheasring and prompting and shit (I'll bet that they 
all had those thingys in their ears!)
> it is easy to see why Metallica are so much better at what 
>> R>they do than Megadeth.
And that's supposed to show us how much Deth suck, right? Urmm... wait a second, it 
dosen't! 
Besides, it seems to me, that they do different things now, MetallicA try to sell as 
many records as they can, and makes as much money as they can, while not really 
caring about what they do, and how they got to be where they are, and the music style 
that they practically invented! 
>Hmmm...an opinion at least it did have some semblance of an argument 
>behind it as opposed to...
>> FUCK YEAH!!!!  HERE, HERE....THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S 
>> TALKING ABOUT!        
OH YEAH! Zaid, the man with ALLLLL the answers... uhhh.... You're obviously too set 
in your ways to care to listen to what I'm saying, mabye when you guys hear LOAD 
you'll come around!
>....this. Oh great...let's make a count of how many people think the sun 
>shines out of JH arsehole shall we? And please, if you're gonna flame me,
You better have alot of time on your hands if you're gonna do that properly <G>
>have a decent argument ready, one that isn`t full of holes, and be
Be nice if they got out of our newsgroup and got some taste, nevermind!
BTW- Nice .sig file!
Just before I finish, I'd like to tell you guys just what I think is shit about 
MetallicA:
	- They've changed to be popular, rather than good.
	- They've abandoned the music that made them popular in the first place, and 
sold out to popularity (I kinda already said that, but I'm making a point here!)
	- Hetfield likes Country and Western music and that kinda style is going to 
be in some of LOAD (according to Jason Newstead anyway!)
	- MOBY are going to have somthing to do with the first single (is it out 
yet?). I'd just like to ask "How the fuck did that happen?" Huh? How'd you get the 
(ex-)kings of Heavy Metal and hook them up with some BS unheard of dance outfit? 
Lastly, does anyone know if it's true that James Hetfield wrote the Billy ray Cyrus 
hit "Achey, Breaky Heart?" I've been told this by a couple of friends, but I don't 
believe that Hetfield could really stoop that low!
Thanx for your time, and listen to more Megadeth, that's why your in this group!
What makes you so scared that I'm gonna flame you? I could be
 a really nice guy deep down. :)
Well, here goes:
> Singing? I wouldn't call "Whiplash" singing, and "Jump In The Fire"?
Great songs, but let's remember exactly how many decades ago these were 
recorded... the present day live versions are much improved.
> Love to see him try "Holy Wars...The Punishment Due"...hmm...
With all due respect, Yakster, Holy Wars is a piece of piss
(ie easy to play), and it doesn't sound too good either.
>  his superoir song-writing
> > R>ability,
> 
> In what way? Better melody...
No, what I mean basically is that there is something about Metallica
(In my opinion) that Megadeth just don't have. Nomatter how much they
produce their albums with track after layered track of harmonised leads
and sound effects, they just don't seem to be able to get that tone
and structure that Metallica have obtained consistently through (most of)
their albums; Master of Puppets for example; a kind of simple tune with
awesome riffs, and a simple construction that just kicks ass.
oh, and finally:
> > FUCK YEAH!!!!  HERE, HERE....THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S
> > TALKING ABOUT!
> > --
> 
If 'Z' wants to have his fun, let him. :)
Chris (lj...@dial.pipex.com) wrote:
: > Love to see him try "Holy Wars...The Punishment Due"...hmm...
: With all due respect, Yakster, Holy Wars is a piece of piss
: (ie easy to play), and it doesn't sound too good either.
Easy to play? I'd like to hear you do the whole song, with solos, while
singing. I'd be willing to bet you would fuck up soo bad that it wouldnt
even sound like the damn song.
: >  his superoir song-writing
: > > R>ability,
: > 
: > In what way? Better melody...
: No, what I mean basically is that there is something about Metallica
: (In my opinion) that Megadeth just don't have. Nomatter how much they
: produce their albums with track after layered track of harmonised leads
: and sound effects, they just don't seem to be able to get that tone
: and structure that Metallica have obtained consistently through (most of)
: their albums; Master of Puppets for example; a kind of simple tune with
: awesome riffs, and a simple construction that just kicks ass.
Metallica doesnt produce albums with track after layed tracks of CRAP?
Fucking listen to Kirks wah pedal (used in almost 100% of his solos now).
Listen to all the added background NOISE on the black album, Harmonized
leads? Listen to MOP again. The song. Listen. And why the fuck would
Megadeth want to sound like Metallica anyways? There are very few similar
riffs in both bands, They are COMPLETELY different. I get pissed when
people try to compare those 2 bands. In *MY* Opinion, Megadeth is and
Always will be the `better' band. I'd see Megadeth live over Metallica any
day because Mainly they  put on a great show, They can actually play their
songs correctly and you dont have a bunch of little fags around that go to
a metallica concert, hear any song before the black album and think they
are covering some other band.
  I'll say it again, from what I've observed, Metallica is built around a
3 string playing concerpt, they will never get past that. But who knows? I
havent heard their new album, I'm not going to go out of my way to hear it
either because I know its going to cater to STP, Pearl Jam, Etc boys who
will hear it and decide that `Metal' doesnt `suck'. But if they've broken
their past structure in songs, they might be good. Otherwise, I think it
will be another dull album with nothing much to it.
 Megadeth completely fucked up on their last album, It was a waste of time
and effort on their part. I think they did it for personal reasons, It by
no means "sold out" because there arent 100,000,000,000 kids running
around these newsgroups making lame posts about "MeGaDeAtH RuLeZ HeHE!". I
truly expect megadeth to make a completely different album next time with
a LOT more kick to it than the last, Yet still keeping the musical aspect
in it (Alot of the heavier bands around suck.). We'll just have to see.
 Don't get me wrong, Metallica isnt THAT bad, I like MOP and RTL, I hate
the rest, I guess they've gotten old on me, Their songs arent the kind
that stick around forever. Oh well enough babble
--Jim
>and structure that Metallica have obtained consistently through (most of)
>their albums; Master of Puppets for example; a kind of simple tune with
>awesome riffs, and a simple construction that just kicks ass.
Weren't you the guy that was saying how long ago stuff was written (earlier in the 
message, in reference to Whiplash)? MOP was a while ago, and while poeple have been 
saying things about how the Megadeth ablums are better/worse than the MetallicA ones, 
the simple fact is, that all of MetallicA's release work to date, seems to be 
completly different to what they're doing now. So, MOP is not really a fair example.
>oh, and finally:
>> > FUCK YEAH!!!!  HERE, HERE....THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S
>> > TALKING ABOUT!
>If 'Z' wants to have his fun, let him. :)
I'm sure that 'Z' has enough fun when he's all alone!
Who are you replying to?
> Weren't you the guy that was saying how long ago stuff was written (earlier in the
> message, in reference to Whiplash)? MOP was a while ago, and while poeple have been
> saying things about how the Megadeth ablums are better/worse than the MetallicA ones,
> the simple fact is, that all of MetallicA's release work to date, seems to be
> completly different to what they're doing now. So, MOP is not really a fair example.
Yes, but everybody knows, including the band, that MOP is a timeless classic - they 
opened with it at Donnington. Some songs just seem to be so good they are fresh 
every time you listen to them, like MOP, Creeping Death (another oldie I know),
Harvester of Sorrow. 
	I was bored of Peace Sells after the second time of listening. Have you grown
out of Youthanasia yet? (Actually, I haven't quite yet). So Metallica change, and some
people don't like that - but their best is still better than Mustaine could ever do.
> There are very few similar
> riffs in both bands, They are COMPLETELY different.
This is a load of bollocks. You know that opening riff in Hangar 18?
You know that D minor bit it Call of Ktulu? Ever seen them played on a 
guitar? They are EXACTLY the same riff. The bands do write very similar 
stuff, even if Megadeth's tone is a lot tinnier... but the reason why 
they are compared so much is because Mustaine was in the band (sorry - 
don't mean to patronise you or anything by pointing out the obvious).
Uh, me I think. Though you wouldn't guess from the description. :)
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let me send more quoted text than typed text, and I want to include it 
all, so don't listen to any of this rubbish. Thankyou. 
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