Bruce dubbed on LAD?
Tony Szablowski
overdubbed his _lead_ vocals on the LAD video? I just don't hear,
nor see, it. B/u vocals and the rhythm guitar(Revelations) were
definitely overdubbed though. Thanks.
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Igor Bratic
Lead vocals? First time I hear that, I know that both lead and backing
vocals in Aces High pre-chorus are Bruce's so something had to be
dubbed.
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though, that's why three guitars can be heard at one point.
analogkid2112
Tony Szablowski wrote in message <768qvl$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>I'd like to know or have someone produce where it states that Bruce
>overdubbed his _lead_ vocals on the LAD video? I just don't hear,
>nor see, it. B/u vocals and the rhythm guitar(Revelations) were
>definitely overdubbed though. Thanks.
>--
>Regards,
>Tony
>
>
Tony Szablowski
>Lead vocals? First time I hear that, I know that both lead and
>backing vocals in Aces High pre-chorus are Bruce's so something >had
to be dubbed.
I thought someone had posted something about the vocals on LAD(video)
being duped? I think the whole show is Bruce's original live vox on
there. Backing vox in Aces High are Bruce and possibly Steve _and_
Adrian, but I believe it's just Bruce and 'Arry.
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Igor Bratic
>
> I hadn't heard about that one. Bruce did play guitar during Revelations
> though, that's why three guitars can be heard at one point.
Yeah, you can clearly hear 3 guitars.
Igor Bratic
Well, the 'running, scrambling...' part is clearly Bruce doing backing
vox too, or it's some REALLY strange echo, but 'run, live to fly...'
part is H doing backing vocals, it might have been dubbed, but it's H.
Now we need someone who has a bootleg copy of the gig.
Tony Szablowski
>> I hadn't heard about that one. Bruce did play guitar during
>>Revelations though, that's why three guitars can be heard at one
>>point.
>
>Yeah, you can clearly hear 3 guitars.
Yepperz, but watch Bruce and _CLOSELY_ listen to the rhythm guitar
part Bruce is supposedly playing. The guitar will play 1-2 more
measures and end where it goes into the break part before going into
the fast part w/guitar solos. Bruce, however, is faking tossing his
guitar in the air. He's good if he can do both at the same time. ;-)
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Tony Szablowski
>Well, the 'running, scrambling...' part is clearly Bruce doing
backing
>vox too, or it's some REALLY strange echo, but 'run, live to fly...'
Got news for you, my friend. That _is_ Bruce, on a digital delay that
the soundguy hits for that one part...."running...(delayed echo
"running") "scrambling..." ("scrambling")...
>part is H doing backing vocals, it might have been dubbed, but it's
>H. Now we need someone who has a bootleg copy of the gig.
No, that's H, but it's also Bruce. Listen closely. That's dubbed in
later.
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Igor Bratic
I'll have to listen more carfully, i guess.
Tony Szablowski
>I'll have to listen more carfully, i guess.
I noticed it tonight while eating dinner. Yes, I was watching LAD
while eating dinner. Cool, eh? :-)
But seriously, if you watch and listen _very_ closely, because it's
mixed down in the mix pretty good, you'll hear the rhythm guitar
playing but you'll see Bruce swinging that guitar up in the air.
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Tokus
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<76976i$c...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>I thought someone had posted something about the vocals on LAD(video)
>being duped? I think the whole show is Bruce's original live vox on
>there. Backing vox in Aces High are Bruce and possibly Steve _and_
>Adrian, but I believe it's just Bruce and 'Arry.
Just wondering... how can the lead singer also do backing vocals at the same
time?
cu
Tonnie
Igor Bratic
Well, it's not any singer we're talking about, it's Bruce. <G>
Dave
audio and video from the same night. 4 concerts were filmed for that
video, directors frequently cut in footage from different nights. I
remember on Live at the Rainbow I think it was, you see Paul without a
shirt towards the end, and there are cuts where you can see him from the
back wearing a jacket. I'm not saying their aren't overdubs on LAD, I'm
just saying that the video and audio not matching doesn't necessarily
prove it. What it does prove is maybe they needed a better continuity
person to look for errors like this.
-Dave
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"Tony Szablowski" <aszab...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Yepperz, but watch Bruce and _CLOSELY_ listen to the rhythm guitar
> part Bruce is supposedly playing. The guitar will play 1-2 more
> measures and end where it goes into the break part before going into
> the fast part w/guitar solos. Bruce, however, is faking tossing his
> guitar in the air. He's good if he can do both at the same time. ;-)
Yeah, and if he's THAT good, maybe Janick should take some lessons from him so
he can both play and play WITH his guitar ;).
cheers,
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Tony Szablowski
>Just wondering... how can the lead singer also do backing vocals at
>the same time?
<g> If you thought about this long enough you would've figured it
out. He overdubbed the backup vox at a later time.
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Tony
Tony Szablowski
>The only problem with this is, you can never be sure you're looking
>at audio and video from the same night. 4 concerts were filmed for
>that video, directors frequently cut in footage from different
nights. I
I hate it when people email you and also post that same reply to the
NG. I already answered this and won't go into it again here since it
was a pretty lengthy reply.
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Tony
Tony Szablowski
Dave's post about the overdubs on the LAD video:
>The only problem with this is, you can never be sure you're looking
>at audio and video from the same night. 4 concerts were filmed for
>that video, directors frequently cut in footage from different
>nights. I
Right. I do know that and I know how frequently it is done. But if
you watch the other guys you'll notice that they're playing dead-on in
time with Nicko. And unless you're playing to a click track, which I
know Nicko's not, you're never gonna have a drummer match his timing
perfectly like that, I don't care who what drummer it is. So, the
cuts where Bruce is shown slinging the guitar _might_ be a cut, but I
seriously doubt it. I really think they just went in and either
Adrian or Dave dubbed the rhythm guitar in later. If you watch
Bruce's hands during that part he's not exactly matching what you're
hearing, though Adrian and Dave are.
Now, they could have also slowed down or sped up the song from another
night to match that video sequence, but I also doubt that. All angles
point to the guitar being overdubbed.
>see him from the back wearing a jacket. I'm not saying their aren't
>overdubs on LAD, I'm just saying that the video and audio not
>matching doesn't necessarily prove it. What it does prove is maybe
>they needed a better continuity person to look for errors like this.
That's a given. You always need a good editor to check for
continuity. There's many shots where it's obvious, if you happen to
know how to play the instruments in question, that what Nicko, Dave,
Adrian, or even Bruce, are playing onscreen _aren't_ what you're
hearing from the audio track. But I still stand by my statement that
they redid the rhythm later.
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Tony
Tom Fletcher
>back wearing a jacket.
Didn't they have camera troubles during this show though, and some of the
songs had to be re-recorded?
Tom Fletcher
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Igor Bratic
>
> Dave wrote in message <3688EFF2...@erols.com>...
> >I remember on Live at the Rainbow I think it was, you see Paul without a
> >shirt towards the end, and there are cuts where you can see him from the
> >back wearing a jacket.
>
> Didn't they have camera troubles during this show though, and some of the
> songs had to be re-recorded?
>
I think they played most of the show, and then they figured out cameras
or some other piece of equipment was fucked up so they played again.
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>Yeah, and if he's THAT good, maybe Janick should take some >lessons
from him so he can both play and play WITH his guitar ;).
Shit, better yet, just fire Janick and replace him _with_ Bruce!
:-)))
Cheers Mikey!
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Tokus
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Yeah, I know that, but I meant on a live performance. Seems practically
impossible...
cu
Tonnie
Tony Szablowski
>Yeah, I know that, but I meant on a live performance. Seems
>practically impossible...
Tonnie...you really want me to entertain this thought? YES, live it
would be impossible to do both backup and lead vox _at the same time_
unless they were interspersed. But yes, my UnderRoos-wearing friend,
they were dubbed in later. :-)))))))
Smithers?
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Tokus
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hehe, well I was just making a dumb comment :)
I know it's impossible.
cu
Tonnie
Tony Szablowski
>hehe, well I was just making a dumb comment :)
>I know it's impossible.
Alrighty then! Pass me a cold Molson and _CRANK_ up the Maiden!
:-)
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Tony
Nausea
In relation to using footage from several nights of filming, I am tempted to
recall the Queensryche video Operation Livecrime: It was filmed over two
nights and was put together as one vid...brilliantly edited apart from one
glaring problem. Geoff Tate has his T-shirt tucked in for one night and
it's hanging out for the second. It's a bummer and very distracting.
I have had a good listed to LAD and Bruce definately overdubs his back up
vocals, it is most apparant on Two Minutes to Midnight. On the video
however, it is not evident that the soundtrack was overdubbed.
The concert footage was shot over two nights, not all four, same with the
album version (recorded over two nights). The album version however is only
taken from one of the nights in question (night four I think) and is not a
compilation of two nights. Therefore, if someone with a super duper stereo
vid managed to burn the soundtrack from the LAD video onto cd, they would
have a completely different recording from the album version of LAD! Now
that's something I would want as I prefer the sound track from the vid to
the LAD album...although Bruce certainly sings Aces High better on the
album, IMHO.
Cheers,
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Tony Szablowski
>Happy New Year You Lot.
Happy New Year, Nausea! (kinda ironic, ain't it? I went to a party
last night and 2 outta the 4 there got drunk sick as dogs) :-)
>In relation to using footage from several nights of filming, I am
tempted to
>recall the Queensryche video Operation Livecrime: It was filmed over
two
>nights and was put together as one vid...brilliantly edited apart
from one
>glaring problem. Geoff Tate has his T-shirt tucked in for one night
and
>it's hanging out for the second. It's a bummer and very distracting.
Yeah, I _deplore_ shit like that. Bad editing jobs really spoil an
otherwise great performance. I've not seen that LiveCrime video.
Yet. But I'm still looking forward to it. I haven't seen it around
anymore. It'll be great to hear that whole album again. Do they do
ever song/segue from the album?
>I have had a good listed to LAD and Bruce definately overdubs his
back up
>vocals, it is most apparant on Two Minutes to Midnight. On the
video
>however, it is not evident that the soundtrack was overdubbed.
While it could happen that they took audio or video different from
either, I doubt it. Not for the whole songs like that. You can
usually see something different from most of the other shots, whether
it's a cymbal stand...whatever. I still stick behind my statement
that Bruce overdubbed the b/u vox, not for every song on the LAD
video, but on a few.
>compilation of two nights. Therefore, if someone with a super duper
stereo
>vid managed to burn the soundtrack from the LAD video onto cd, they
would
>have a completely different recording from the album version of LAD!
Now
>that's something I would want as I prefer the sound track from the
vid to
>the LAD album...although Bruce certainly sings Aces High better on
the
>album, IMHO.
I hear ya. I always wanted to do that from RUSH's Exit..Stage Left,
and A Show of Hands vids. I know they released albums that coincide
with those vids, but they're not the same. Come on, wouldn't ya just
love to CRANK that medley at the end of Exit..Stage Left vid while
shootin down the highway? <G>
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Tony
Tokus
>otherwise great performance. I've not seen that LiveCrime video.
>Yet. But I'm still looking forward to it. I haven't seen it around
>anymore. It'll be great to hear that whole album again. Do they do
>ever song/segue from the album?
yes, it's the complete Mindcrime album. I only have Livecrime, not
Mindcrime, but it's still very good. I hope the studio versions (Mindcrime)
are as good as the live version.
cu
Tonnie
Tony Szablowski
>yes, it's the complete Mindcrime album. I only have Livecrime, not
>Mindcrime, but it's still very good. I hope the studio versions
(Mindcrime)
>are as good as the live version.
Tonnie, you should get Operation Mindcrime. It is one of the best
metal albums of all time. Really. It's a work of art. Queensryche
did two things when they made/released that album. (1) They made one
of _the_ best metal albums of all time. (2) They sunk their own ship
because IMO, they put all their eggs into one basket, the Mindcrime
basket. Though maybe not on purpose, but they set a very lofty
standard with that album. Many people didn't think they could ever
top that album, myself included, and it soon became an albatross to
the band whenever talk of a new album arose. I think it will always
be Queesnryche's best work, and Rage for Order is the second best.
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Tony
Lionheart
>I hear ya. I always wanted to do that >from
>RUSH's Exit..Stage Left, and A Show of
>Hands vids. I know they released albums
>that coincide with those vids, but they're
>not the same. Come on, wouldn't ya >just
>love to CRANK that medley at the end of
>Exit..Stage Left vid while shootin down >the
>highway? <G>
>--
>Regards,
>Tony
Absolutely. I would love to get the rendition of Mission from A Show Of
Hands on CD. It's better than the CD version of ASOH, even though I was
there live in person (S.D. in '87 on the HYF tour) for the CD cut!! Oh
the memories. I still get goosebumps everytime I listen to it, being I
was ACTUALLY there!! That really goes to show you just how great the
vid cut is to say that it was even better than the a concert that you
went to. I guess I'll have to get one of those CD recorders to get the
vid version. You're right, it would be great playing that cruisin' down
the highway.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LIONHEART
Why do we have to fall from grace
Holdin' on to yesterday
When home sweet home is outta place
Lionheart will find his way
(Le Tekro/Harnell)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tony Szablowski
<8016-368...@newsd-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
>Absolutely. I would love to get the rendition of Mission from A Show
Of
>Hands on CD. It's better than the CD version of ASOH, even though I
was
>there live in person (S.D. in '87 on the HYF tour) for the CD cut!!
Oh
>the memories. I still get goosebumps everytime I listen to it, being
I
>was ACTUALLY there!! That really goes to show you just how great the
I know what you mean. I was at the NJ show that they taped....(sudden
memory loss) Red Sector A, I think it was. Whatever the Meadowlands,
NJ show is, that's the one I was at. And yeah, it's pretty wild to
know you were actually there for that one! :-)
>went to. I guess I'll have to get one of those CD recorders to get
the
>vid version. You're right, it would be great playing that cruisin'
down
>the highway.
Those CD-RW's are getting damn cheap, too. $300 and think of all the
mix CD's you could make for those car rides.
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Tony
Tom Fletcher
to
>recall the Queensryche video Operation Livecrime: It was filmed over two
>nights and was put together as one vid...brilliantly edited apart from one
>glaring problem. Geoff Tate has his T-shirt tucked in for one night and
>it's hanging out for the second. It's a bummer and very distracting.
Hey, for distractions, check out Def Leppard's "In The Round, In Your Face".
They change clothes, and guitars about every other song. This was recorded
over two nights in Denver, and two nights in Orlando or something.
>I have had a good listed to LAD and Bruce definately overdubs his back up
>vocals, it is most apparant on Two Minutes to Midnight. On the video
>however, it is not evident that the soundtrack was overdubbed.
>
>The concert footage was shot over two nights, not all four, same with the
>album version (recorded over two nights). The album version however is
only
>taken from one of the nights in question (night four I think) and is not a
>compilation of two nights. Therefore, if someone with a super duper stereo
>vid managed to burn the soundtrack from the LAD video onto cd, they would
>have a completely different recording from the album version of LAD! Now
>that's something I would want as I prefer the sound track from the vid to
>the LAD album...although Bruce certainly sings Aces High better on the
>album, IMHO.
I have recorded it to tape, and it is very good quality. All I need is a CD
burner, and I'm going to put it onto CD. I like the video better, because of
Bruces speech before ROTAM. On the CD they seem to rush into the next song.
The thing I hate about the video is Bruces singing on Aces High. It aint up
to pitch in the verse.
Tom Fletcher
>Yeah, I _deplore_ shit like that. Bad editing jobs really spoil an
>otherwise great performance. I've not seen that LiveCrime video.
>Yet. But I'm still looking forward to it. I haven't seen it around
>anymore. It'll be great to hear that whole album again. Do they do
>ever song/segue from the album?
The worst production job of a Maiden video has got to be Live At The
Rainbow. Check out Killers. Dave is apparently playing the pull off part of
his solo, where the soundtrack is playing the natural harmonics riff he
plays (before the first verse)
Some of the time on this video, Adrian plays something totally different to
what the soundtrack plays.
Another bad job of production is Live At Donnington. Why is it constantly
going from colour to the black and white camera shots, and then the slowed
down action shots, and then to Jannick throwing his guitar round his neck
when the soundtrack is playing his solo.
The best production jobs by far are LAD and ME.
Tony Szablowski
>Hey, for distractions, check out Def Leppard's "In The Round, In Your
Face".
>They change clothes, and guitars about every other song. This was
recorded
>over two nights in Denver, and two nights in Orlando or something.
I love it when they kick into Stagefright! That place was BUZZZING!
Still, a good video though. Every damn time I see it though I think
of just how _underrated_ a guitarist Steve was.
>I have recorded it to tape, and it is very good quality. All I need
is a CD
I did this with In The Round...video. Came out good, too.
>burner, and I'm going to put it onto CD. I like the video better,
because of
>Bruces speech before ROTAM. On the CD they seem to rush into the
next >song. The thing I hate about the video is Bruces singing on Aces
High. It aint >up to pitch in the verse.
Well, they gotta cut all that extraneous banter between songs or they
might not've fit it all to audio tape. I'm glad they left all that
in on the Donington 2xCD. It makes ya feel like you're actually at
the concert, instead of just hearing clips.
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Tony
Tony Szablowski
>The worst production job of a Maiden video has got to be Live At The
>Rainbow. Check out Killers. Dave is apparently playing the pull off
part of
>his solo, where the soundtrack is playing the natural harmonics riff
he
>plays (before the first verse)
>Some of the time on this video, Adrian plays something totally
different to
>what the soundtrack plays.
LOL! I see that! I wish they'd release more of the audio/video
taped concerts they did, like the one from 12 Wasted Years, from the
Beast on The Road Tour. Shit, now _why_ couldn't they include that
on however many CDs in the Eddy head?
>Another bad job of production is Live At Donnington. Why is it
constantly
>going from colour to the black and white camera shots, and then the
slowed
>down action shots, and then to Jannick throwing his guitar round his
neck
>when the soundtrack is playing his solo.
Who produced it? Someone musta got some new toys in the editing room
and tried them out on LADonington! <g>
>The best production jobs by far are LAD and ME.
I like the overall sound from LAD better than ME, but the recorded
sound of each instrument is better on ME, IMO.
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Tony
Tom Fletcher
>Tom Fletcher wrote in message <76l994$c63$7...@newnews.global.net.uk>...
>I love it when they kick into Stagefright! That place was BUZZZING!
>Still, a good video though. Every damn time I see it though I think
>of just how _underrated_ a guitarist Steve was.
Steve was a good guitarist without a shadow of a doubt. He had a large
creative input to the band, as did Pete Willis. He is DEFINETLY underatted,
especially when Phil is doing all his pyro-techinic fretboard dancing stuff.
I think Steve's solos are more composed, and played like a good solo, where
Phils solos are a chance to show off and impress. Both are good guitarists,
but Steve will always be my favourite.
>>I have recorded it to tape, and it is very good quality. All I need
>is a CD
>
>I did this with In The Round...video. Came out good, too.
Hehe, I did this too. I taped over it though, because I went off Leppard for
a long time.
Tony Szablowski
>Steve was a good guitarist without a shadow of a doubt. He had a
large
>creative input to the band, as did Pete Willis. He is DEFINETLY
underatted,
But who contributed more, Pete or Steve? They were both drunk a lot
of the times! <g>
>especially when Phil is doing all his pyro-techinic fretboard dancing
stuff.
>I think Steve's solos are more composed, and played like a good solo,
>where Phils solos are a chance to show off and impress. Both are good
>guitarists, but Steve will always be my favourite.
Just like Adrian and Dave! Adrian/Steve=more melodic, structured
playing; Dave/Phil=a lot of off-the-cuff fretshredding.
Damn, I still remember when I came home from work and my g/f told me
Steve was dead. I was majorly bummed for a few good days. I was
just really getting into Lep then, having bought Hysteria and High &
Dry on CD. Steve will always be missed by many fans.
>Hehe, I did this too. I taped over it though, because I went off
Leppard for
>a long time.
Ever listen to them lately? Not the new shit, just anything?
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Tom Fletcher
>Tom Fletcher wrote in message <76m5mn$o2s$4...@newnews.global.net.uk>...
>Ever listen to them lately? Not the new shit, just anything?
I suppose in a way i'm a Leppard sheep. I have got all their albums, most on
CD, Hysteria on vinyl and those not on CD on tape. I can't stand the Slang
album. Pyromania is the album that will always stay in my mind. OTTN was a
good debut, but only Rock Brigade and Answer To The Master, (and When The
Walls to some extent) stick out. High and Dry is another good album. This
used to be my favourite. Lots of good riffs like on No No No.
I have listened to some of their stuff lately, but I don't really like
post-hysteria albums (maybe because of Steve not being there? His playing
was excellent) apart from the RetroActive album.
I started listening to Leppard more than before after Steve died. I don't
know why. I'd have liked to see them live with Steve.
Oerjan Friberg
embarrasing if you ask me since they could've just filmed Clive or whatever
instead. There was another big mistake in Killers as well - at the end of
Adrian's solo he does some high bends, probably around 15th fret or higher,
(they zoom out and show the whole band at the time) but Adrians hand is
somewhere around the 5th fret.
In article <76l995$c63$8...@newnews.global.net.uk>,
"Tom Fletcher" <t...@fletch05.globalnet.co.uk> writes:
>The worst production job of a Maiden video has got to be Live At The
>Rainbow. Check out Killers. Dave is apparently playing the pull off part of
>his solo, where the soundtrack is playing the natural harmonics riff he
>plays (before the first verse)
>Some of the time on this video, Adrian plays something totally different to
>what the soundtrack plays.
>
>Tom Fletcher
>t...@fletch05.globalnet.co.uk
>
>"Who leads you to the dark secrets?"
>Bruce Dickinson
>
>"You haunt me, you taunt me
>You torture me back at your lair"
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Tony Szablowski
>I was watching that video yesterday and noticed that Dave thing too.
>Pretty embarrasing if you ask me since they could've just filmed
>Clive or whatever instead. There was another big mistake in Killers
>as well - at the end of Adrian's solo he does some high bends,
>probably around 15th fret or higher, (they zoom out and show the
>whole band at the time) but Adrians hand is somewhere around the >5th
fret.
LOL! Don't ya just love that shit?! Also, check out the Beast on
The Road concert footage on 12 Wasted Years. Where's Adrian? <g>
Notice how they show very little of him. s'Probably because (A) he's
dressed conservatively compared to the others; (B) he's got very
short hair. Could also be because he was so new they had questions
about showing him. Interesting though. I wish they'd release that
whole concert, which I'm sure they have in the vaults somewhere.
Probably Steve's house. :-)
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Tony
Dave
> Yet. But I'm still looking forward to it. I haven't seen it around
> anymore. It'll be great to hear that whole album again. Do they do
> ever song/segue from the album?
Yup, Queensryche does the whole album, everything. They even have the
woman from the record sing "Suite Sister Mary" with them.
-Dave
stil...@my-dejanews.com
"Tony Szablowski" <aszab...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> LOL! Don't ya just love that shit?! Also, check out the Beast on
> The Road concert footage on 12 Wasted Years. Where's Adrian? <g>
> Notice how they show very little of him. s'Probably because (A) he's
> dressed conservatively compared to the others; (B) he's got very
> short hair. Could also be because he was so new they had questions
> about showing him. Interesting though.
Well, all H does is just stand there and look at what he's playing or up in
the air. He's not exactly the most dynamic person to watch, but then again,
I'd sure as hell rather watch him play that watch you know who fuck around
with his guitar (me, bitter, no, I'm not bitter at all).
>I wish they'd release that whole concert, which I'm sure they have in the
>vaults somewhere. Probably Steve's house. :-)
You and everyone else in their right mind (except those twits who post here
every now and again saying how much Bruce sucks, the wankers...).
cheers,
mikey.
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Tom Fletcher
>I was watching that video yesterday and noticed that Dave thing too. Pretty
>embarrasing if you ask me since they could've just filmed Clive or whatever
>instead. There was another big mistake in Killers as well - at the end of
>Adrian's solo he does some high bends, probably around 15th fret or higher,
>(they zoom out and show the whole band at the time) but Adrians hand is
>somewhere around the 5th fret.
I remember that too. It stuck out like a sore thumb the first time I saw it.
Watching the poor production job of LATR, and then watching the version of
Wasted Years on the 12WY video (and what Bruce says before), It really makes
me want to laugh!
Tom Fletcher
<76r9s2$ha8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Well, all H does is just stand there and look at what he's playing or up in
>the air. He's not exactly the most dynamic person to watch, but then
again,
>I'd sure as hell rather watch him play that watch you know who fuck around
>with his guitar (me, bitter, no, I'm not bitter at all).
Adrian seems to be a very professional guitarist, to the extent he doesn't
have any fun! Watch the Wasted Years on the 12WY video (I've mentioned this
song already in this thread). While all the band fuck about, with Steve
playing drums, and Dave playing Bass, and Nicko singing, and Bruce playing
guitar (or something like that along the way). While all the band piss about
and swap instruments, H stands there without a smile on his face, like a
good boy playing HIS song. (Maybe thats why he is so pissed off??)
stil...@my-dejanews.com
"Tom Fletcher" <t...@fletch05.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> stil...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> <76r9s2$ha8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
> have any fun! Watch the Wasted Years on the 12WY video (I've mentioned this
> song already in this thread). While all the band fuck about, with Steve
> playing drums, and Dave playing Bass, and Nicko singing, and Bruce playing
> guitar (or something like that along the way). While all the band piss about
> and swap instruments, H stands there without a smile on his face, like a
> good boy playing HIS song. (Maybe thats why he is so pissed off??)
>
Well, from what I gathered from that TV appearance, they kind of all went
into it knowing they were going to fuck around (because they hate TV
appearances, remember?). But as it is H's song and what not, and being the
perfectionist he is, he probably forgot all about the messing around until it
was too late to join in without looking like a twit. But I still think that
is the funniest three minutes of video on that tape...that and Eddie getting
the shit beat out of him at Dortmund.
Tony Szablowski
>stil...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
><76r9s2$ha8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Adrian seems to be a very professional guitarist, to the extent he
>doesn't have any fun! Watch the Wasted Years on the 12WY video
I've both known and played with other musicians that were exactly like
Adrian onstage. Believe me, he's enjoying himself just by playing
the music, and maybe the other fact that he's playing music in front
of fans. Another prime example is Neil Peart. The guy has always
appeared to be either pissed or in deep concentration, which he is,
when playing live. He's admitted that there's so much going on while
playing live that he's deep in concentration, hence he doesn't appear
to be having fun.
---
Regards,
Tony
Curtis Rea
>I've both known and played with other musicians that were exactly like
>Adrian onstage. Believe me, he's enjoying himself just by playing
>the music, and maybe the other fact that he's playing music in front
>of fans. Another prime example is Neil Peart. The guy has always
>appeared to be either pissed or in deep concentration, which he is,
>when playing live. He's admitted that there's so much going on while
>playing live that he's deep in concentration, hence he doesn't appear
>to be having fun.
Rush has stated that they hate touring, so maybe that has something to do
with it (but I think your statement is probably closer to the truth).
Curtis
Tony Szablowski
>Rush has stated that they hate touring, so maybe that has >something
to do
>with it (but I think your statement is probably closer to the truth).
:-) That's because it _IS_ the truth. Neil has said this in _many_
articles/interviews pertaining to himself and his drumming.
--
Regards,
Tony
Igor Bratic
Hey Tony, I saw Different Stages in a store for 15 bucks, you think I
should buy it?
--
Igor
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So it shall be done
Tony Szablowski
>Hey Tony, I saw Different Stages in a store for 15 bucks, you think I
>should buy it?
In addition to my last comment; what's nice about Different Stages is
that the musical selection spans RUSH's entire career. There's 2 CD's
worth of live music from the last tours and there's a third CD that is
from a 1978 concert from the Hemispheres tour. The sound on the 2
live CD's from the recent tour is GREAT with just enough audience
added in to make you feel like you're there. The third, older
recording isn't bad either. Definitely worth your money, my friend.
---
Regards,
Tony
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote in message <369639...@home.com>...
>
> >Hey Tony, I saw Different Stages in a store for 15 bucks, you think I
> >should buy it?
>
Ok, BTW, that was 15 american, not canadian, and it's not a used cd
store. Thanks, I'll try to find more rush clips on the 'net tonight,
even though I'm pretty sure I'll get it.
Tony Szablowski
>Hey Tony, I saw Different Stages in a store for 15 bucks, you think I
>should buy it?
Hell's bells, YES!! It is simply _G-R-E-A-T_!!!!
---
Regards,
Tony
Tony Szablowski
>Ok, BTW, that was 15 american, not canadian, and it's not a used >cd
store. Thanks, I'll try to find more rush clips on the 'net tonight,
>even though I'm pretty sure I'll get it.
That's about right. I think mine was around $17.
---
Regards,
Tony
David Tremaine
>In addition to my last comment; what's nice about Different Stages is
>that the musical selection spans RUSH's entire career. There's 2 CD's
>worth of live music from the last tours and there's a third CD that is
>from a 1978 concert from the Hemispheres tour.
Just want to make a small correction here: the third disc is from the "A
Farewell to Kings" tour.
David
Tony Szablowski
>Just want to make a small correction here: the third disc is from the
>"A Farewell to Kings" tour.
Yep. I fucked up. Can't believe that, but I did. Definitely,
without a doubt, no frigging way-otherwise, absa-fucking-lutely, from
the Kings tour. :-)
--
Regards,
Tony
Dave
Igor Bratic wrote:
> Tony Szablowski wrote:
> >
> > Curtis Rea wrote in message ...
> > >Rush has stated that they hate touring, so maybe that has >something
> > to do
> > >with it (but I think your statement is probably closer to the truth).
> >
> > :-) That's because it _IS_ the truth. Neil has said this in _many_
> > articles/interviews pertaining to himself and his drumming.
>
> Hey Tony, I saw Different Stages in a store for 15 bucks, you think I
> should buy it?
> --
> Igor
I bought it and I LOVE it! I was always a fan of old Rush and had kind of
ignored the new stuff. This live album really has a lot of great new
material and it really mixes well with the old stuff. As a matter of fact I
hardly listen to the bonus old CD, I like the new show better.
-Dave Wright
Tony Szablowski
>I bought it and I LOVE it! I was always a fan of old Rush and had
>kind of ignored the new stuff. This live album really has a lot of
great >new material and it really mixes well with the old stuff. As a
matter of >fact I hardly listen to the bonus old CD, I like the new
show better.
Hey Dave. Yeah, the new one's pretty damn good. I still am
surprised @ how good the recording and overall production is. You can
hear _everything_ and the crowd's mixed in just enough to give you
that live, I'm there, feeling. I'm a fan since 1983 when a buddy of
mine gave me Moving Pictures since he knew I was a drummer. I was
blown away by Neil, Alex, and Geddy. I must admit that I thought for
a while, until I found out, that there were about 4 or 5 people in the
band. It's amazing just how much power and sound these guys make.
Just for you, I'm gonna crank up Different Stages one notch
more(that'll make it 12 :-) ) on the way down to college tonight.
"We've got Mars on the horizon..." <g>
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Regards,
Tony
Dave
-Dave Wright
ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION...WE HAVE ASSUMED
CONTROL...WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL...WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL...
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