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>I got AOB yesterday. Yeah, it's a fine album. Sounds like Maiden *should*
be sounding these
>days. Anyway, who's that with Bruce on the inside pictures? Is that RoyZ
or perhaps Adrian
>Smith? I really cannot tell. Please help me out here. Thanks in advance!
Eye on Andromeda
> I got AOB yesterday. Yeah, it's a fine album. Sounds like Maiden *should* be sounding these
> days. Anyway, who's that with Bruce on the inside pictures? Is that RoyZ or perhaps Adrian
> Smith? I really cannot tell. Please help me out here. Thanks in advance!
>
That's Adrian "MacDaddy" Smith....the man with the cure. People say
Skunkworks is better. Man it would have to be a classic to top AOB.
Cyclops
Baeleron
> On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, AJP & AMG wrote:
>
> > I got AOB yesterday. Yeah, it's a fine album. Sounds like Maiden *should* be sounding these
> > days. Anyway, who's that with Bruce on the inside pictures? Is that RoyZ or perhaps Adrian
> > Smith? I really cannot tell. Please help me out here. Thanks in advance!
> >
I really have to disagree that Maiden should be sounding like Bruce sounds.
AOB is a good album, no question about it, but it is not at all like the Maiden sound.
The only thing reminiscent of Maiden is Bruce's voice, but the rest of the
music is -nothing- like Maiden. And I wouldn't say that Bruce is better
than Maiden either. While AOB is an excellent album, it is also fairly
generic both lyrically and musically. He seems to be taking the Dio route
with the lyrics, focusing mostly on religion and magic. That's ok, but
it can't compete with Maiden's broad range of subject material.
Musically the album is adequate too, but cannot really compete with
Maiden's epic masterpieces. Where are the 4-minute instrumental
sections? Where are the unforgettable guitar solos? What Bruce does
is good, but it's not competing with Maiden. Not even with TXF
and VXI. That's my opinion. Rip me to shreds if you want, I don't
care :)
Baeleron
http://www.blueneptune.com/~bvs/ironmaiden/
chi...@my-dejanews.com
Baeleron <"Baeleron"@hotmail(nospam).com> wrote:
> Eye on Andromeda wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, AJP & AMG wrote:
> >
> > > I got AOB yesterday. Yeah, it's a fine album. Sounds like Maiden *should* be sounding these
> > > days. Anyway, who's that with Bruce on the inside pictures? Is that RoyZ or perhaps Adrian
> > > Smith? I really cannot tell. Please help me out here. Thanks in advance!
> > >
>
> I really have to disagree that Maiden should be sounding like Bruce sounds.
> AOB is a good album, no question about it, but it is not at all like the Maiden sound.
> The only thing reminiscent of Maiden is Bruce's voice, but the rest of the
> music is -nothing- like Maiden. And I wouldn't say that Bruce is better
> than Maiden either. While AOB is an excellent album, it is also fairly
> generic both lyrically and musically. He seems to be taking the Dio route
> with the lyrics, focusing mostly on religion and magic. That's ok, but
It's not all about religion and magic
> it can't compete with Maiden's broad range of subject material.
> Musically the album is adequate too, but cannot really compete with
> Maiden's epic masterpieces. Where are the 4-minute instrumental
> sections? Where are the unforgettable guitar solos? What Bruce does
There are some great solos: Omega, Man of sorrows, darkside of aquarius,
taking the queen. I personally think the solo from the slow part in Omega, is
the greatest solo I ever heard. It's not wild nor fast but every single damn
note is correct. An album does not have to have a 4 minute instrumental to be
great. I think we can all agree on that. Maybe a 4-minute instrumental is not
appropriate for such an album?
> is good, but it's not competing with Maiden. Not even with TXF
> and VXI. That's my opinion. Rip me to shreds if you want, I don't
> care :)
>
> Baeleron
> http://www.blueneptune.com/~bvs/ironmaiden/
>
Dude, I respect your opinion but I think VXI has very little energy in it.
It's very lame in a sense. I mean, you listen to VXI then you pop in Aces
High or some other classic, you see a tremendous difference in energy. It's
almost like the band had more passion and desire to write. But now it seems
like "hey guys lets put an album together, tour, do another album, blabla".
Stephen Cho
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>taking the queen. I personally think the solo from the slow part in >Omega,
is the greatest solo I ever heard. It's not wild nor fast but >every single
damn note is correct. An album does not have to have a >4 minute
instrumental to be great. I think we can all agree on that. >Maybe a
4-minute instrumental is not appropriate for such an >album?
As to the solo, like all music, there's nothing "correct" about it. I do
know what you meant in that it's a great solo, yep. As for a 4-minute
instrumental? Well, it would all depend upon the music, wouldn't it?
>Dude, I respect your opinion but I think VXI has very little energy in it.
>It's very lame in a sense. I mean, you listen to VXI then you pop in >Aces
High or some other classic, you see a tremendous difference >in energy. It's
almost like the band had more passion and desire to >write. But now it seems
like "hey guys lets put an album together, >tour, do another album, blabla".
Well, that might come from simply aging; not having the strength to play
Aces High every night, for instance. I strongly believe that most bands
start entering their prime 1 or 2 albums after their record deal. They
still have that raw intensity and desire to "make it big" yet have had some
time to get to know each other's styles and personalities-musical-wise.
Look at Master of Puppets, # of The Beast, RUSH's 2112, etc... I do
think Maiden's past their prime, but that doesn't mean they can't create
great music still. BUT, if they keep writing in the same vein as their
present material........I'll personally be a pall-bearer for Eddie's coffin.
Tony
AJP & AMG
Paul Enzenhofer
>
> >Dude, I respect your opinion but I think VXI has very little energy in it.
> >It's very lame in a sense. I mean, you listen to VXI then you pop in >Aces
> High or some other classic, you see a tremendous difference >in energy. It's
> almost like the band had more passion and desire to >write. But now it seems
> like "hey guys lets put an album together, >tour, do another album, blabla".
>
>
> Well, that might come from simply aging; not having the strength to play
> Aces High every night, for instance. I strongly believe that most bands
> start entering their prime 1 or 2 albums after their record deal. They
> still have that raw intensity and desire to "make it big" yet have had some
> time to get to know each other's styles and personalities-musical-wise.
> Look at Master of Puppets, # of The Beast, RUSH's 2112, etc... I do
> think Maiden's past their prime, but that doesn't mean they can't create
> great music still. BUT, if they keep writing in the same vein as their
> present material........I'll personally be a pall-bearer for Eddie's coffin.
>
> Tony
>
I think it has a lot to do with the production side of things. The last
couple of albums (including ARLO/ARDO) just have the shittiest production.
The drums sound flat, and the 'feel' of the guitars just isn't right. The
songs just don't seem to flow as much as they should. But, continuing your
analogy, crap production is just another nail in Eddie's coffin. That,
coupled with a talentless singer, a guitarist who still doesn't belong in
the band as far as I'm concerned (Janick) and covers that aren't drawn by
the legend Derek Riggs pretty much seal the coffin, IMO. Oh yeah, and the
new logo sucks.
regards,
Paul
Tony Szablowski
>I think it has a lot to do with the production side of things. The last
>couple of albums (including ARLO/ARDO) just have the shittiest production.
>The drums sound flat, and the 'feel' of the guitars just isn't right. The
>songs just don't seem to flow as much as they should. But, continuing your
>analogy, crap production is just another nail in Eddie's coffin. That,
Well, that's the point. You should bring in someone who knows your sound,
or knows where you're going to with the album/sound, who's gonna have the
balls to say, "I think this sucks, guys. Let's do it THIS way and see what
happens, ok?" I think the major contributing factor to the shitty sound
of the past few albums has been that they were recorded in Steve's barn,
which he converted into a recording studio. Well, I don't think Steve's got
the REALLY BIG bucks to get the latest and greatest audio gear, but you
don't need it. There's plenty of gear out there that sounds and records
great. I don't know if it was Steve's hands/ears that fucked up the sound
or the equipment or what, but they need to step back and take a look at
where their sound is at and where they're going, because it's not a pretty
sight or sound.
Tony
Matthew Bowen
AJP & AMG <epip...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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That, my friend, is former Iron Maiden guitarist Adrian Smith.
If you'd like to see what the other members of Bruce's current band look
like, have a peek at the photo gallery at Bruce's web page:
http://www.brucedickinson.com/band.htm
All the best!
--
Matthew Bowen
mat...@ozemail.com.au
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> I got AOB yesterday. Yeah, it's a fine album. Sounds like Maiden
*should* be sounding these
> days. Anyway, who's that with Bruce on the inside pictures? Is that
RoyZ or perhaps Adrian
> Smith? I really cannot tell. Please help me out here. Thanks in
advance!
It sure looks like Adrian.
And yes, the album is pretty good.
cu
Tonnie