Rumors About IM; What's True...
Ben Lauter
Can anyone tell me what's going on, I'm pretty sure that the news on
Blaze leaving is fairly straight, but then I hear it's both him *and*
Janick that are out.
By the way, Janick was said to have been complaining about Blaze, well
he is in no place to judge until he cleans up his playing and stops
trying to ham it up at every turn. If he wants to shred he can go write
music for Shrapnel records or something.
What the heck is true about these IM rumors and what's bullshit?
--Ben
Ben Lauter
Tony Szablowski wrote:
>
> Ben Lauter wrote in message <368ADD8A...@hotmail.com>...
> >Can anyone tell me what's going on, I'm pretty sure that the news on
> >Blaze leaving is fairly straight, but then I hear it's both him *and*
> >Janick that are out.
>
> Ben, none of us can tell you what's _really_ going on because we're
> not Stephen Harris. Play each Maiden CD, all of them, before you go
> to bed at night. Then, pray to the gods, or god if you prefer, that
> Steve will pick a better singer than Blaze. :-)
> --
> Regards,
> Tony
What I really want to know is, is Janick out of the band as well? Sure
he's got energy but he plays like a sloppy 16-year old who's trying to
learn his shred records.
I'll say it again. I love Maiden, but when you pick a singer out of
thousands, you'd better be sure you like how he holds up.
--Ben
Tony Szablowski
Tokus
Tony Szablowski heeft geschreven in bericht
<76er6s$t...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>Ben, none of us can tell you what's _really_ going on because we're
>not Stephen Harris. Play each Maiden CD, all of them, before you go
>to bed at night. Then, pray to the gods, or god if you prefer, that
>Steve will pick a better singer than Blaze. :-)
it will be noon until you finish playing them all, but still, good night
then....
cu
Tonnie
Curtis Rea
>>Blaze leaving is fairly straight, but then I hear it's both him *and*
>>Janick that are out.
>
>
>not Stephen Harris. Play each Maiden CD, all of them, before you go
>to bed at night. Then, pray to the gods, or god if you prefer, that
>Steve will pick a better singer than Blaze. :-)
Or for those of us that like Blaze, we can pray that these rumors are all
false.
Curtis Rea
>thousands, you'd better be sure you like how he holds up.
If in fact Blaze does get the boot, Steve wouldn't be the first band leader
to pick a singer and then regret his decision....hell, Tony Iommi has made
enough to last a lifetime!!!
Lord Edam de Fromage
>Blaze leaving is fairly straight, but then I hear it's both him *and*
>Janick that are out.
What makes you so sure any of the rumours are true? From an official source?
On a radio station? Or on a web page that actively recruits rumour mongers
as it's newshounds?
>What the heck is true about these IM rumors and what's bullshit?
They're all bullshit until Maiden confirm them.
Personally, I don't want to see anyone leave the band. They are working well
together and I enjoy their music. How can you people beleive something you
see on a web page? Do you think because three of four web pages carry the
same piece of rumour it must be true?
Tony Szablowski
>What I really want to know is, is Janick out of the band as well?
From everything I've NOT heard, his job as guitarist in Maiden appears
to be secure.
>Sure he's got energy but he plays like a sloppy 16-year old who's
>trying to learn his shred records.
>I'll say it again. I love Maiden, but when you pick a singer out of
>thousands, you'd better be sure you like how he holds up.
Yep. 1000%
--
Regards,
Tony
Tony Szablowski
>it will be noon until you finish playing them all, but still, good
night
>then....
<G> Ya got me, Tonnie! You're right.
--
Regards,
Tony
Tony Szablowski
>Or for those of us that like Blaze, we can pray that these rumors are
>all false.
Hey, maybe you'll like the (possible)new lead singer even more than
Blaze.
--
Regards,
Tony
Curtis Rea
>>Or for those of us that like Blaze, we can pray that these rumors are
>>all false.
>
>Hey, maybe you'll like the (possible)new lead singer even more than
>Blaze.
Yeah, you never know. At least I'll give a new vocalist a chance, which I
feel some people on this ng haven't done with Blaze (my opinion only...not
'flaming' anyone in particular).
Curtis
Shiflet
> Well, Tony made the best choice available when Ozzy left(Dio)
I take it there must have been a definate lack of alternatives at that
point in time, eh?
> and
> Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
> then his luck went a little bad(although he did get Dio again, Halford
> for a couple of shows and Ozzy again).
Whoa, Halford sang with Sabbath? That I'd like to hear...
> I guess what we should all be
> really thankful for is that when Paul left they were smart enough to
> get Bruce(due to the biography their manager was quite leary of
> getting him). I only hope their next singer(if any) will be an
> equally inspired choice.
>
> Shaun Baker
> 12-31-98
Danny Shiflet
"We plan ahead, that way we don't have to do anything right now"-
Valentine, Tremors
Shiflet
> He's not much of a singer and he's an asshole, I guess Dave Mustaine was
> too young or unavailable.
Somehow I knew you'd agree with me on that one;-)
> Same here, I guess will have to buy some boots.
If you happen to find one, let me know. For that matter, if you find a
copy of Ozzy Meets the Priest, let me know as well.
> --
> Igor
>
> Visit my Iron Maiden Rare Sounds Archive for B-Sides at:
> http://members.tripod.com/~in_his_hands/index.html
>
> Go to war again,
> Blood is freedom's stain
endle...@att.net
wrote:
>>I'll say it again. I love Maiden, but when you pick a singer out of
>>thousands, you'd better be sure you like how he holds up.
The problem is there are very few singers who have done what the
singer of Iron Maiden is asked to do. Blaze toured Europe twice in
Wolfsbane opening for Iron Maiden and did not have any problems
holding up. Most of the singers who have proven they could hold up
are not seeking employment.
>If in fact Blaze does get the boot, Steve wouldn't be the first band leader
>to pick a singer and then regret his decision....hell, Tony Iommi has made
>enough to last a lifetime!!!
>
Well, Tony made the best choice available when Ozzy left(Dio) and
Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
then his luck went a little bad(although he did get Dio again, Halford
for a couple of shows and Ozzy again). I guess what we should all be
Igor Bratic
> point in time, eh?
He's not much of a singer and he's an asshole, I guess Dave Mustaine was
too young or unavailable.
> > and
> > Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
> > then his luck went a little bad(although he did get Dio again, Halford
> > for a couple of shows and Ozzy again).
>
> Whoa, Halford sang with Sabbath? That I'd like to hear...
Same here, I guess will have to buy some boots.
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > He's not much of a singer and he's an asshole, I guess Dave Mustaine was
> > too young or unavailable.
>
I guess it is pretty hard not to agree with you.
Shiflet
> I guess it is pretty hard not to agree with you.
Whatever you do, do mention that to "TeRRy." The man thinks Dio is god.
Seriously. He got mad at me cause I bashed Dio in the Dio group. Problem
was, he bashed Ozzy in the Ozzy group, and also had that message in the
Dio and Sabbath groups. I simply responded from my group and I got a
rant about how Dio is the ruler of music, the god, the king, you name
it. Scary actually...
> --
> Igor
>
> Visit my Iron Maiden Rare Sounds Archive for B-Sides at:
> http://members.tripod.com/~in_his_hands/index.html
>
> Go to war again,
> Blood is freedom's stain
Danny Shiflet
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > I guess it is pretty hard not to agree with you.
>
> Whatever you do, do mention that to "TeRRy." The man thinks Dio is god.
> Seriously. He got mad at me cause I bashed Dio in the Dio group. Problem
> was, he bashed Ozzy in the Ozzy group, and also had that message in the
> Dio and Sabbath groups. I simply responded from my group and I got a
> rant about how Dio is the ruler of music, the god, the king, you name
> it. Scary actually...
There's a Dio newsgroup, what's next? alt.fanatic.blaze-bayley?
Shiflet
> There's a Dio newsgroup, what's next? alt.fanatic.blaze-bayley?
Yes, and it even has a large group of regulars. I had about a fair
number of people telling me to quit "trolling" alt.music.dio aparently
oblivious that the huge Ozzy bashing post I responded to was posted from
the Dio group to the Dio *and* Ozzy group. When "TeRRy" bashes a singer
in that singer's group, it's fine, you just better not retaliate. And as
for a Blaze group, let's not even go there...
> --
> Igor
>
> Visit my Iron Maiden Rare Sounds Archive for B-Sides at:
> http://members.tripod.com/~in_his_hands/index.html
>
> Go to war again,
> Blood is freedom's stain
Danny Shiflet
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > There's a Dio newsgroup, what's next? alt.fanatic.blaze-bayley?
>
> Yes, and it even has a large group of regulars. I had about a fair
> number of people telling me to quit "trolling" alt.music.dio aparently
> oblivious that the huge Ozzy bashing post I responded to was posted from
> the Dio group to the Dio *and* Ozzy group. When "TeRRy" bashes a singer
> in that singer's group, it's fine, you just better not retaliate. And as
> for a Blaze group, let's not even go there...
Damn, if I knew how to create a ng I'd make one for Blaze. I'd go every
now and then to see who posts there. It'd be like a test. If you post
there, that means I shouldn't take your posts seriously.
Shiflet
> Damn, if I knew how to create a ng I'd make one for Blaze. I'd go every
> now and then to see who posts there. It'd be like a test. If you post
> there, that means I shouldn't take your posts seriously.
Hmm, might be amusing to peruse periodically...
> --
> Igor
>
> Visit my Iron Maiden Rare Sounds Archive for B-Sides at:
> http://members.tripod.com/~in_his_hands/index.html
>
> Go to war again,
> Blood is freedom's stain
Danny Shiflet
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > Damn, if I knew how to create a ng I'd make one for Blaze. I'd go every
> > now and then to see who posts there. It'd be like a test. If you post
> > there, that means I shouldn't take your posts seriously.
>
> Hmm, might be amusing to peruse periodically...
I guess. You know, to have a laugh every now and then.
Tokus
Tony Szablowski heeft geschreven in bericht
Well,, at least you spent your night listening to some good music then.
cu
Tonnie
T. & M. Van Noggeren
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:51:43 GMT, "Curtis Rea" <cr...@techplus.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>I'll say it again. I love Maiden, but when you pick a singer out of
> >>thousands, you'd better be sure you like how he holds up.
>
> The problem is there are very few singers who have done what the
> singer of Iron Maiden is asked to do. Blaze toured Europe twice in
> Wolfsbane opening for Iron Maiden and did not have any problems
> holding up. Most of the singers who have proven they could hold up
> are not seeking employment.
>
> >If in fact Blaze does get the boot, Steve wouldn't be the first band leader
> >to pick a singer and then regret his decision....hell, Tony Iommi has made
> >enough to last a lifetime!!!
> >
> Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
> then his luck went a little bad
Luck went a little bad? I don't think so...
Then he put out an album with Glenn Hughes (my favourite vocalist)
which was intended to be a Tony Iommi solo album. Iommi certainly
didn't regret working with Glenn as the 2 recorded 10 songs together
in 1997/98 (still unreleased). Glenn's alcohol problems (in the 80's)
prevented him from touring with Sabbath so Tony brought in the the
great (IMO) Ray Gillen (RIP) who sadly did not record any studio
albums with Sabbath. Ray was replaced with Tony Martin who has been
the vocalist on more Sabbath albums than any other Sab singer except
Ozzy.
>(although he did get Dio again, Halford
> for a couple of shows and Ozzy again).
Before "Ozzy again" was Martin again (following Dio again).
> Shaun Baker
> 12-31-98
Regards,
Tony
T. & M. Van Noggeren
>
> endle...@att.net wrote:
>
>
> > and
> > Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
> > then his luck went a little bad(although he did get Dio again, Halford
> > for a couple of shows and Ozzy again).
>
> Whoa, Halford sang with Sabbath? That I'd like to hear...
>
One concert only - at the end of the Dehumanizer tour when Dio refused
to participate in a concert which had Sabbath opening for Ozzy.
> >
> > Shaun Baker
> > 12-31-98
>
> Danny Shiflet
Regards,
Tony
endle...@att.net
<ton...@MNSi.Net> wrote:
>Shiflet wrote:
>>
>> endle...@att.net wrote:
>> > and
>> > Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
>> > then his luck went a little bad(although he did get Dio again, Halford
>> > for a couple of shows and Ozzy again).
>>
>> Whoa, Halford sang with Sabbath? That I'd like to hear...
>>
>
>One concert only - at the end of the Dehumanizer tour when Dio refused
>to participate in a concert which had Sabbath opening for Ozzy.
>
I thought it was two shows but either way the scenerio is the same
where Dio refused to open for Ozzy. I've heard the full shows are
floating around somewhere, I have an MP3 of Supernaut/Neon Knights
which certainly was interesting.
Shaun Baker
1-1-99
Curtis Rea
>> Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
>
>Luck went a little bad? I don't think so...
>
>Then he put out an album with Glenn Hughes (my favourite vocalist)
>which was intended to be a Tony Iommi solo album. Iommi certainly
>didn't regret working with Glenn as the 2 recorded 10 songs together
>in 1997/98 (still unreleased). Glenn's alcohol problems (in the 80's)
>prevented him from touring with Sabbath so Tony brought in the the
>great (IMO) Ray Gillen (RIP) who sadly did not record any studio
>albums with Sabbath. Ray was replaced with Tony Martin who has been
>the vocalist on more Sabbath albums than any other Sab singer except
>Ozzy.
And you forgot David Donato, another Sabbath vocalist who never recorded
with them. Also, Gillen did in fact record the Eternal Idol for Sabbath,
however the vocals were later changed before the album was released. I have
the Eternal Idol demos Gillen made and they sound good, too bad he's no
longer with us.
Curtis
T. & M. Van Noggeren
> >> Gillan was good(somehow not as good as it should have been though)
> >> then his luck went a little bad
> >
> >Luck went a little bad? I don't think so...
> >
> >Then he put out an album with Glenn Hughes (my favourite vocalist)
> >which was intended to be a Tony Iommi solo album. Iommi certainly
> >didn't regret working with Glenn as the 2 recorded 10 songs together
> >in 1997/98 (still unreleased). Glenn's alcohol problems (in the 80's)
> >prevented him from touring with Sabbath so Tony brought in the the
> >great (IMO) Ray Gillen (RIP) who sadly did not record any studio
> >albums with Sabbath. Ray was replaced with Tony Martin who has been
> >the vocalist on more Sabbath albums than any other Sab singer except
> >Ozzy.
>
> And you forgot David Donato, another Sabbath vocalist who never recorded
> with them.
I didn't forget about Donato but that might be where Iommi's "luck
went a little bad". Nothing against Donato whose vocals I like on the
White Tiger album but I don't think his voice was very well suited to
Black Sabbath. Just MHO.
> Also, Gillen did in fact record the Eternal Idol for Sabbath,
> however the vocals were later changed before the album was released. I have
> the Eternal Idol demos Gillen made and they sound good, too bad he's no
> longer with us.
Now that is a tape I would like to get ahold of!! I've heard the
story about the album being recorded and then rerecorded with Tony
Martin but I've never heard the Gillen version of Eternal Idol.
Regards,
Tony
Øyvind Steinsvik
>>>Can anyone tell me what's going on, I'm pretty sure that the news on
>>>Blaze leaving is fairly straight, but then I hear it's both him *and*
>>>Janick that are out.
>>
>>
>>not Stephen Harris. Play each Maiden CD, all of them, before you go
>>to bed at night. Then, pray to the gods, or god if you prefer, that
>>Steve will pick a better singer than Blaze. :-)
>
>
>false.
>
>
>
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