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Tony Szablowski

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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Got Dio's new studio work, "MAGICA".


Folks, go get it. It is Ronnie James Dio at a level he hasn't reached in
some time. Back in good form. Reviews to follow.

Go get it. Now. Go.

Go.

Buy it.

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Regards,
Tony

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: OT: DIO......MAGICA

>From: "Tony Szablowski" !HATE!tonyszablowski!SPAM!@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
>Folks, go get it. It is Ronnie James Dio at a level he hasn't reached in some
time.
--------------------------------------------------------
Dio has finally reached 5-feet? It's about time. At long last, he'll be able
to ride The Beast at Paramount's Kings Island without parental supervision.

Warlock

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Oh, Dio hasn't ben able to talk to his parents for a long time. They
probably died around 1904, when young Ronnie *sniff* was only 27.*sob*

Tony Szablowski

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Warlock wrote in message ...

>>Dio has finally reached 5-feet? It's about time. At long last, he'll be
able
>>to ride The Beast at Paramount's Kings Island without parental
supervision.
>
>
>Oh, Dio hasn't ben able to talk to his parents for a long time. They
>probably died around 1904, when young Ronnie *sniff* was only 27.*sob*

<chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
May the Gods bless him, though.

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Tony


Rob Sluder

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><chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
>May the Gods bless him, though.

He *IS* the Man on the Silver Mountain! ;^)

Tony Szablowski

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Rob Sluder wrote in message
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>><chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
>>May the Gods bless him, though.
>
>He *IS* the Man on the Silver Mountain! ;^)

:-) Was wondering if anyone here would catch that. I expected one or
two, at most. You new here Rob? If so, glad to have you aboard. If
not, my bad, but welcome anyway. <g>

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Tony

Tony Szablowski

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Rob Sluder wrote in message
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>><chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
>>May the Gods bless him, though.
>
>He *IS* the Man on the Silver Mountain! ;^)

BTW, are you a fan, Rob? Did you pick up Magica yet? If you did, how do
you like it?

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Tony

Shiflet

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Tony Szablowski wrote in message
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>BTW, are you a fan, Rob? Did you pick up Magica yet? If you did, how do
>you like it?


I've heard a couple of songs from it, didn't impress me all that much.
Better than Angry Machines and Strange Highways, but that's not saying much.
And neither of them come close to Holy Diver or Last in Line...

>---
>Regards,
>Tony


Danny Shiflet
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and you'll be...falling down!"-Edguy, Falling Down

HeavyMeta5715013

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>Rob Sluder wrote in message
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>>><chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
>>>May the Gods bless him, though.
>>

DIO is the Man! The MAN! The Man on The Silver Mountain! Hell YEAH!
Godbless RONNIE JAMES

Nausea

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> On 21 Mar 2000 14:40:03 GMT, johnf...@aol.comnet (Johnfwolfe) wrote:

> >Dio has finally reached 5-feet? It's about time. At long last, he'll be
able
> >to ride The Beast at Paramount's Kings Island without parental
supervision.
>
>
> Oh, Dio hasn't ben able to talk to his parents for a long time. They
> probably died around 1904, when young Ronnie *sniff* was only 27.*sob*

He hasn't spoken to his wife in even longer, she can't hear him from up
there.
And she complains that she's got no one to talk dirty to during sex

Nausea

Tony Szablowski

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Shiflet wrote in message <8b993m$bkv$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>...

>I've heard a couple of songs from it, didn't impress me all that much.
>Better than Angry Machines and Strange Highways, but that's not saying
much.
>And neither of them come close to Holy Diver or Last in Line...


I've listened to Magica about 7 times now since I bought it. I'm getting
the feeling(s) I did when I first started listening to Accident of Birth.
I like Magica. It's songs are good and the production is great. You can
hear everything going on. I think it's worth the money and I'll be
hopefully seeing the little guy up in NYC this next month.

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Tony
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man as a good cry to a woman."
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samiam

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Saw them last night in Ventura,CA. Wasn't horribly impressed with the new
material (they played the entire album minus the spoken parts which was
kinda cool) as was the rest of the crowd. But its a concept album, which
gets bonus points in my book so I'll probably end up buying it. BTW- I
thought Dio did a waaaay better performance when he opened for Maiden at the
Universal Ampitheater.

-samiam

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Warlock

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:17:05 -0800, "samiam"
<nospam_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Saw them last night in Ventura,CA. Wasn't horribly impressed with the new
>material (they played the entire album minus the spoken parts which was
>kinda cool) as was the rest of the crowd. But its a concept album, which
>gets bonus points in my book so I'll probably end up buying it. BTW- I
>thought Dio did a waaaay better performance when he opened for Maiden at the
>Universal Ampitheater.
>
>-samiam
>

I caught that gig too, and agree that that will be a hard performance
to top (although the long overdue departure of Tracy G is a step in
the right direction.)

--Hugh

Forostar

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> Warlock wrote in message ...
> >>Dio has finally reached 5-feet? It's about time. At long last, he'll
be
> able
> >>to ride The Beast at Paramount's Kings Island without parental
> supervision.
> >
> >
> >Oh, Dio hasn't ben able to talk to his parents for a long time. They
> >probably died around 1904, when young Ronnie *sniff* was only 27.*sob*
>
> <chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
> May the Gods bless him, though.

He is 50.

Forostar

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- A. Smith, 1986 -


>
> ---
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>
>

Johnfwolfe

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>From: "Forostar" foro...@casema.net wrote:

>He is 50.
--------------------------------------------------------
In dog years?


CLS

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> Tony Szablowski <!HATE!tonyszablowski!SPAM!@worldnet.att.net> schreef in
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> > Warlock wrote in message ...
> > >>Dio has finally reached 5-feet? It's about time. At long last, he'll
> be
> > able
> > >>to ride The Beast at Paramount's Kings Island without parental
> > supervision.
> > >
> > >
> > >Oh, Dio hasn't ben able to talk to his parents for a long time. They
> > >probably died around 1904, when young Ronnie *sniff* was only 27.*sob*
> >
> > <chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
> > May the Gods bless him, though.
>
> He is 50.
>
> Forostar

Not that I give a fuck, but he's at least 60.

Crawdad

Forostar

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Nope, in human years.

Forostar

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nope

>
> Crawdad
>
>

Rodrigo Andrade

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CLS

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If there's one thing I truly hate in this world it's somebody who doesn't
know shit trying to tell me he does.

Ronnie's first band was The Vegas Kings. His second was Ronnie and the
Rumblers. His third was Ronnie and the Redcaps and they released their
first recording in 1958 (a 45 with "Conquest" on the A side and "Lover" on
the B side). He played bass and sang vocals. His band was composed of his
junior high/high school friends. There are several well known pictures of
Ronnie from the 50's as a *late teen* sporting a nice Elvis hairdo as well.
He was a very established club act in Cortland NY.

If you would like to continue by telling me that Ronnie was 8 years old when
he fronted his third band, sang vocals, played bass, and released his first
recording then be my guest, but you're going to look like a complete fucking
idiot.

Crawdad

Forostar

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right

>
> If you would like to continue by telling me that Ronnie was 8 years old
when
> he fronted his third band, sang vocals, played bass, and released his
first
> recording then be my guest, but you're going to look like a complete
fucking
> idiot.
>
> Crawdad
>

thanks!

He is 50 years now, dude, believe it or not.
This week I have read a very recent interview with Ronnie James Dio in
'Aardschok' (April edition 2000) a Dutch Metal Magzine. His age was
mentioned there: 50 years!

If he did stuff in 1958, then he did it while he was 8 years old, which
makes me look like a complete fucking idiot in your eyes, but I don't really
care about that. He probably was a talent just like Michael Jackson who did
the same when he was young.

You're the f**king idiot here, for not believing me, while you're the one,
who doesn't know sh*t about his age

CLS

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> > If there's one thing I truly hate in this world it's somebody who
doesn't
> > know shit trying to tell me he does.
> >
> > Ronnie's first band was The Vegas Kings. His second was Ronnie and the
> > Rumblers. His third was Ronnie and the Redcaps and they released their
> > first recording in 1958 (a 45 with "Conquest" on the A side and "Lover"
on
> > the B side). He played bass and sang vocals. His band was composed of
> his
> > junior high/high school friends. There are several well known pictures
of
> > Ronnie from the 50's as a *late teen* sporting a nice Elvis hairdo as
> well.
> > He was a very established club act in Cortland NY.
>
> right

Are you disagreeing with something or just being a smartass because you
don't have anything else to say?

>
> >
> > If you would like to continue by telling me that Ronnie was 8 years old
> when
> > he fronted his third band, sang vocals, played bass, and released his
> first
> > recording then be my guest, but you're going to look like a complete
> fucking
> > idiot.
> >
> > Crawdad
> >
>
> thanks!

Your welcome!

>
> He is 50 years now, dude, believe it or not.
> This week I have read a very recent interview with Ronnie James Dio in
> 'Aardschok' (April edition 2000) a Dutch Metal Magzine. His age was
> mentioned there: 50 years!

Oh.......the venerable and omniscient Aardschok said so? Hmmmm....it must
be so, then!

First of all, Ronnie has NEVER (repeat NEVER) confirmed his age for ANY
publication. He is *very* private about it ---- and it's due to the fact
that he's probably a little self-conscious about being a few years older
than most of his peers in metal. 'Aardschok' doesn't know dick about
Ronnie's age as Ronnie has never discussed his age. I'm not claiming I know
his exact age, but I think it's pretty evident that he's not fifty. By most
accounts he is somewhere between 59 and 61. He wasn't touring NY, playing
bass (and sometimes trumpet), writing songs, singing, fronting a band named
after him, and getting his first single released at the age of 8. There are
a few pictures out there of Ronnie during this period and I can assure you
he's not 8.


>
> If he did stuff in 1958, then he did it while he was 8 years old, which
> makes me look like a complete fucking idiot in your eyes, but I don't
really
> care about that. He probably was a talent just like Michael Jackson who
did
> the same when he was young.

Oh yeah......and we've never heard of it! Suuuuuuuuuure. That means he was
like 4 or 5 when he was the LEADER of The Vegas Kings (in which he played
bass, wrote most of the songs, and sang). Come on.

>
> You're the f**king idiot here, for not believing me, while you're the one,
> who doesn't know sh*t about his age

Oh, the irony.

The bottom line of your argument is Aardshok said so. Believe them if you
want to, but it's absolutely preposterous.

Crawdad


Johnfwolfe

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>From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com

>If there's one thing I truly hate in this world it's somebody who doesn't
>know shit trying to tell me he does.
>
>Ronnie's first band was The Vegas Kings. His second was Ronnie and the
>Rumblers. His third was Ronnie and the Redcaps and they released their
>first recording in 1958 (a 45 with "Conquest" on the A side and "Lover" on
>the B side). He played bass and sang vocals. His band was composed of his
>junior high/high school friends.

There are several well known pictures of
>Ronnie from the 50's as a *late teen* sporting a nice Elvis hairdo as well.
>He was a very established club act in Cortland NY.

-------------------------------------------------------
Not to mention the fact that those pictures you have from the 50's are from the
*1850's*. He may be old, but that picture I have of him crossing the Delaware
with George Washington is pretty powerful stuff. But I think that the Elvis
hairdo was nothing more than a powdered wig.

Forostar

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>
> "Forostar" <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
> news:8be14h$2os$1...@newsspool.casema.net...
>
>
> > > If there's one thing I truly hate in this world it's somebody who
> doesn't
> > > know shit trying to tell me he does.
> > >
> > > Ronnie's first band was The Vegas Kings. His second was Ronnie and
the
> > > Rumblers. His third was Ronnie and the Redcaps and they released
their
> > > first recording in 1958 (a 45 with "Conquest" on the A side and
"Lover"
> on
> > > the B side). He played bass and sang vocals. His band was composed
of
> > his
> > > junior high/high school friends. There are several well known
pictures
> of
> > > Ronnie from the 50's as a *late teen* sporting a nice Elvis hairdo as
> > well.
> > > He was a very established club act in Cortland NY.
> >
> > right
>
> Are you disagreeing with something or just being a smartass because you
> don't have anything else to say?

I had more to say, as you know.

>
> >
> > >
> > > If you would like to continue by telling me that Ronnie was 8 years
old
> > when
> > > he fronted his third band, sang vocals, played bass, and released his
> > first
> > > recording then be my guest, but you're going to look like a complete
> > fucking
> > > idiot.
> > >
> > > Crawdad
> > >
> >
> > thanks!
>
> Your welcome!
>
> >
> > He is 50 years now, dude, believe it or not.
> > This week I have read a very recent interview with Ronnie James Dio in
> > 'Aardschok' (April edition 2000) a Dutch Metal Magzine. His age was
> > mentioned there: 50 years!
>
> Oh.......the venerable and omniscient Aardschok said so? Hmmmm....it must
> be so, then!

Actually, Aardschok is a well respected metal-magazine, being here since
1980, helping to promote a lot of metalbands, (like Metallica (hence the
booklet of their debut album), Slayer, Maiden, Manowar and a lot of others
including Dio). I have some Aardschoks from the mid eighties, also with
interviews with Dio.... this magazine isn't just a shitty magazine, I can
assure you.

>
> First of all, Ronnie has NEVER (repeat NEVER) confirmed his age for ANY
> publication.

How can you know? Are you his brother?

> He is *very* private about it ---- and it's due to the fact
> that he's probably a little self-conscious about being a few years older
> than most of his peers in metal. 'Aardschok' doesn't know dick about
> Ronnie's age as Ronnie has never discussed his age. I'm not claiming I
know
> his exact age,

That's what I thought


>but I think it's pretty evident that he's not fifty.

These are your personal opinions... I have my opinions about his age, which
are supported by this magazine.

If you don't like it, it's your problem, but don't bother me with it.

>By most
> accounts he is somewhere between 59 and 61. He wasn't touring NY, playing
> bass (and sometimes trumpet), writing songs, singing, fronting a band
named
> after him, and getting his first single released at the age of 8.

Trumpet, don't make me laugh... that trumpet must have made him look older,
I guess.

>There are
> a few pictures out there of Ronnie during this period and I can assure you
> he's not 8.

Sure, then make sure that the pictures are from the 50-ies.


>
>
> >
> > If he did stuff in 1958, then he did it while he was 8 years old, which
> > makes me look like a complete fucking idiot in your eyes, but I don't
> really
> > care about that. He probably was a talent just like Michael Jackson who
> did
> > the same when he was young.
>
> Oh yeah......and we've never heard of it! Suuuuuuuuuure. That means he
was
> like 4 or 5 when he was the LEADER of The Vegas Kings (in which he played
> bass, wrote most of the songs, and sang). Come on.
>

4 or 5? that would mean 1954, or 1955...

I think that all these 'wild' stories about the 50's are some rumors that
got a bit out of hand, dude.....


> >
> > You're the f**king idiot here, for not believing me, while you're the
one,
> > who doesn't know sh*t about his age
>
> Oh, the irony.
>
> The bottom line of your argument is Aardshok said so. Believe them if you
> want to, but it's absolutely preposterous.

That's okay

Still you can't prove me wrong... Come with better arguments, if you can.

CLS

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"Forostar" <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
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> > Oh.......the venerable and omniscient Aardschok said so? Hmmmm....it
must
> > be so, then!
>
> Actually, Aardschok is a well respected metal-magazine, being here since
> 1980, helping to promote a lot of metalbands, (like Metallica (hence the
> booklet of their debut album), Slayer, Maiden, Manowar and a lot of others
> including Dio). I have some Aardschoks from the mid eighties, also with
> interviews with Dio.... this magazine isn't just a shitty magazine, I can
> assure you.

I don't care if it's Time magazine. Ronnie has never released his age.

>
> >
> > First of all, Ronnie has NEVER (repeat NEVER) confirmed his age for ANY
> > publication.
>
> How can you know? Are you his brother?

Well, nobody knows his exact age and he has never given an exact age, so
make of it what you will. He refuses to answer that question in his
interviews and always has.

>
> > He is *very* private about it ---- and it's due to the fact
> > that he's probably a little self-conscious about being a few years older
> > than most of his peers in metal. 'Aardschok' doesn't know dick about
> > Ronnie's age as Ronnie has never discussed his age. I'm not claiming I
> know
> > his exact age,
>
> That's what I thought

Yeah, but you *are* claiming to know his exact age. Again, the irony.

> >but I think it's pretty evident that he's not fifty.
>
> These are your personal opinions... I have my opinions about his age,
which
> are supported by this magazine.

So, you are standing for the proposition that he released his first album at
the age of 8?f Hey, if Aardshok says so, right..............?

> >By most
> > accounts he is somewhere between 59 and 61. He wasn't touring NY,
playing
> > bass (and sometimes trumpet), writing songs, singing, fronting a band
> named
> > after him, and getting his first single released at the age of 8.
>
> Trumpet, don't make me laugh... that trumpet must have made him look
older,
> I guess.

I don't know.......but mastering bass, trumpet, singing and songwriting
would be pretty impressive for an 8 year old.

> >There are
> > a few pictures out there of Ronnie during this period and I can assure
you
> > he's not 8.
>
> Sure, then make sure that the pictures are from the 50-ies.

If I can dig them up, I will.

> > >
> > > If he did stuff in 1958, then he did it while he was 8 years old,
which
> > > makes me look like a complete fucking idiot in your eyes, but I don't
> > really
> > > care about that. He probably was a talent just like Michael Jackson
who
> > did
> > > the same when he was young.
> >
> > Oh yeah......and we've never heard of it! Suuuuuuuuuure. That means he
> was
> > like 4 or 5 when he was the LEADER of The Vegas Kings (in which he
played
> > bass, wrote most of the songs, and sang). Come on.
> >
>
> 4 or 5? that would mean 1954, or 1955...

When he made his first release in '58, it was his third band. Thus, if he
was 8, there's a pretty good chance that he'd be younger with the earlier
two bands, dontcha think? Anyway, the point is moot, because he's not 50.
If you've ever met him, you'd know he's not 50.

>
> I think that all these 'wild' stories about the 50's are some rumors that
> got a bit out of hand, dude.....

Would like to see a picture of the 45 and some information about it?

> > > You're the f**king idiot here, for not believing me, while you're the
> one,
> > > who doesn't know sh*t about his age
> >
> > Oh, the irony.
> >
> > The bottom line of your argument is Aardshok said so. Believe them if
you
> > want to, but it's absolutely preposterous.
>
> That's okay
>
> Still you can't prove me wrong... Come with better arguments, if you can.

Saying he was 8 is a great argument. Boy, how will I top that?

Crawdad


CLS

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> Still you can't prove me wrong... Come with better arguments, if you can.
>
> Forostar

Here's some better arguments:

Exhibit #1: http://members.aol.com/battmaker/pages/redcapsbio.html . Here's
a pretty detailed look at Ronnie's early music career. Pay special
attention to the last paragraph and the part about him being a college
freshman in 1960. If he was 18 or 19 in 1960, that would make him almost 60
today.

Exhibit #2: http://members.aol.com/battmaker/pages/prophetspic.html . I
think you'll enjoy examining these pictures while you eat your crow.

Exhibit #3: http://members.xoom.com/DioFan/ . 9th song down, left column.

Do you still want to maintain he is exactly 50 years old?????

Crawdad


CLS

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"Rob Sluder" <slu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> All right everyone!!!!!
> Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
>
> I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his birthday
to be
> July 10, 1949.
>
> http://members.tripod.com/davytany/a2z/10a2z199.htm
>
> Later,
> Rob

You simply can't believe this stuff. They don't know and more than Hit
Parader knows. Ronnie's age has been reported to be everything from 40 to
60. They simply get hold of the same bad information as Aardshok. His
birthday is correct, but not birth year. Ronnie and his management haven't
exactly squelched the rumors of being younger either. Why would he? For
whatever reason, he's self conscious about his age. If someone wants to
believe he was traveling NY, playing fraternity houses, fronting bands,
writing songs, playing bass and trumpet, and releasing 45's at the age of 9,
well, I can't stop you. However, I'm sure this will help a certain person
ignore virtually all the facts to the contrary.

Crawdad

Forostar

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> >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
> >From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com
>
> >If there's one thing I truly hate in this world it's somebody who doesn't
> >know shit trying to tell me he does.
> >
> >Ronnie's first band was The Vegas Kings. His second was Ronnie and the
> >Rumblers. His third was Ronnie and the Redcaps and they released their
> >first recording in 1958 (a 45 with "Conquest" on the A side and "Lover"
on
> >the B side). He played bass and sang vocals. His band was composed of
his
> >junior high/high school friends.
>
> There are several well known pictures of
> >Ronnie from the 50's as a *late teen* sporting a nice Elvis hairdo as
well.
> >He was a very established club act in Cortland NY.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Not to mention the fact that those pictures you have from the 50's are
from the
> *1850's*. He may be old, but that picture I have of him crossing the
Delaware
> with George Washington is pretty powerful stuff. But I think that the
Elvis
> hairdo was nothing more than a powdered wig.

Yeah and that picture on 'Heaven and Hell" was from 1743, I'm sure!!

Andrew J. Shal

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<snipped a huge conversation>

Anyone here near the Cortland area? I ask, because, most high schools keep
their yearbooks on file. Someone could always go and check to see what year he
was a senior in high school (and if that someone looks him up under "Dio"
please stop living). Or, maybe the town records would have his birth
certificate. I mean, this stuff isn't IMPOSSIBLE to find out, everything is on
file somewhere...

-Andrew J. Shal
Penn State University
"Come on baby, grab my tool
Your gonna love the golden rule"
--Nebula

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: Dio's age (was: Magica)

>From: andy...@aol.comNOSPAM (Andrew J. Shal) wrote:
>
>Anyone here near the Cortland area? I ask, because, most high schools keep
>their yearbooks on file. Someone could always go and check to see what year
>he was a senior in high school (and if that someone looks him up under "Dio"
>please stop living). Or, maybe the town records would have his birth
>certificate. I mean, this stuff isn't IMPOSSIBLE to find out, everything is
>on file somewhere...
--------------------------------------------------------
What about at the Smithsonian? Has anybody checked near the woolly mammoth
display?

Rob Sluder

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Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Dio's Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!
>From: slu...@aol.com (Rob Sluder)

>
>
>All right everyone!!!!!
>Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
>
>I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his birthday to
July 10, 1949.
--------------------------------------------------------
No disrespect intended, Rob, but if you truly believe a purported birthdate
found on a celebrity website is gospel, then maybe you can get Elvis to sign
one of my bottles of Rogaine. I read on an official Israeli celebrity site
that he is currently working in a deli in Brooklyn using the name "Irv
Goldstein".

Igor Bratic

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Rob Sluder wrote:
>
> All right everyone!!!!!
> Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
>
> I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his birthday to be
> July 10, 1949.

Wow, Dio must be some kind of genius, I mean, he wasn't even a
teenager when he went to college.

--
Igor

Once he starts it's hard to stop
He's keepin' up a pace like a tight wound clock
Be sure you don't step in his way
He'll keep those numbers rolling
This may be his last day

Nausea

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote

> No disrespect intended, Rob, but if you truly believe a purported
birthdate
> found on a celebrity website is gospel, then maybe you can get Elvis to
sign
> one of my bottles of Rogaine. I read on an official Israeli celebrity
site
> that he is currently working in a deli in Brooklyn using the name "Irv
> Goldstein".

And you don't believe this about Elvis? Your cynicism drives me nuts!
<g>

salud

Nausea

Forostar

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>
> "Forostar" <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
> news:8be7m3$mpn$1...@newsspool.casema.net...
>
> > > Oh.......the venerable and omniscient Aardschok said so? Hmmmm....it
> must
> > > be so, then!
> >
> > Actually, Aardschok is a well respected metal-magazine, being here since
> > 1980, helping to promote a lot of metalbands, (like Metallica (hence the
> > booklet of their debut album), Slayer, Maiden, Manowar and a lot of
others
> > including Dio). I have some Aardschoks from the mid eighties, also with
> > interviews with Dio.... this magazine isn't just a shitty magazine, I
can
> > assure you.
>
> I don't care if it's Time magazine. Ronnie has never released his age.

Still, Aardschok could have other information, besides Dio himself.... they
are following him for about 20 years.


>
> >
> > >
> > > First of all, Ronnie has NEVER (repeat NEVER) confirmed his age for
ANY
> > > publication.
> >
> > How can you know? Are you his brother?
>
> Well, nobody knows his exact age and he has never given an exact age, so
> make of it what you will. He refuses to answer that question in his
> interviews and always has.

This is crap. "Nobody knows his exact age." Absolutely rediculous, and you
know it.
Aarschok knew his age before the interview was taken, they knew it probably
for years.. They didn't ask him for his age in the interview. Roughly
translated into English, Aardschok says:"Dio's new CD 'Magica' shows that
the 50 year old American singer Ronnie James Dio has still a bright musical
future ahead."...

>
> >
> > > He is *very* private about it ---- and it's due to the fact
> > > that he's probably a little self-conscious about being a few years
older
> > > than most of his peers in metal. 'Aardschok' doesn't know dick about
> > > Ronnie's age as Ronnie has never discussed his age. I'm not claiming
I
> > know
> > > his exact age,
> >
> > That's what I thought
>
> Yeah, but you *are* claiming to know his exact age. Again, the irony.

I am not: Aardschok is claming it, and I believe it..

>
> > >but I think it's pretty evident that he's not fifty.
> >
> > These are your personal opinions... I have my opinions about his age,
> which
> > are supported by this magazine.
>
> So, you are standing for the proposition that he released his first album
at
> the age of 8?f Hey, if Aardshok says so, right..............?

Aardschok doesn't say this: indirectly YOU come up with this.

>
> > >By most
> > > accounts he is somewhere between 59 and 61. He wasn't touring NY,
> playing
> > > bass (and sometimes trumpet), writing songs, singing, fronting a band
> > named
> > > after him, and getting his first single released at the age of 8.
> >
> > Trumpet, don't make me laugh... that trumpet must have made him look
> older,
> > I guess.
>
> I don't know.......but mastering bass, trumpet, singing and songwriting
> would be pretty impressive for an 8 year old.

It would.

>
> > >There are
> > > a few pictures out there of Ronnie during this period and I can assure
> you
> > > he's not 8.
> >
> > Sure, then make sure that the pictures are from the 50-ies.
>
> If I can dig them up, I will.

Okay... I like to know when the pictures were taken, to provide us decent
info.

>
> > > >
> > > > If he did stuff in 1958, then he did it while he was 8 years old,
> which
> > > > makes me look like a complete fucking idiot in your eyes, but I
don't
> > > really
> > > > care about that. He probably was a talent just like Michael Jackson
> who
> > > did
> > > > the same when he was young.
> > >
> > > Oh yeah......and we've never heard of it! Suuuuuuuuuure. That means
he
> > was
> > > like 4 or 5 when he was the LEADER of The Vegas Kings (in which he
> played
> > > bass, wrote most of the songs, and sang). Come on.
> > >
> >
> > 4 or 5? that would mean 1954, or 1955...
>
> When he made his first release in '58, it was his third band. Thus, if he
> was 8, there's a pretty good chance that he'd be younger with the earlier
> two bands, dontcha think? Anyway, the point is moot, because he's not 50.
> If you've ever met him, you'd know he's not 50.

His third band 1958? Where did you get this from?

>
> >
> > I think that all these 'wild' stories about the 50's are some rumors
that
> > got a bit out of hand, dude.....
>
> Would like to see a picture of the 45 and some information about it?

Of the 45, what do you mean? Yeah sure, I would like to have some info.

>
> > > > You're the f**king idiot here, for not believing me, while you're
the
> > one,
> > > > who doesn't know sh*t about his age
> > >
> > > Oh, the irony.
> > >
> > > The bottom line of your argument is Aardshok said so. Believe them if
> you
> > > want to, but it's absolutely preposterous.
> >
> > That's okay
> >

> > Still you can't prove me wrong... Come with better arguments, if you
can.
>

> Saying he was 8 is a great argument. Boy, how will I top that?

You don't have to.

Forostar

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>
> "Forostar" <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
> news:8be7m3$mpn$1...@newsspool.casema.net...
>
> > Still you can't prove me wrong... Come with better arguments, if you
can.
> >
> > Forostar
>
> Here's some better arguments:
>
> Exhibit #1: http://members.aol.com/battmaker/pages/redcapsbio.html .
Here's
> a pretty detailed look at Ronnie's early music career. Pay special
> attention to the last paragraph and the part about him being a college
> freshman in 1960. If he was 18 or 19 in 1960, that would make him almost
60
> today.
>

look at this:
". It is unclear how many of these records were pressed but it is certainly
under 500 and some sources say 100, even 50 is more accurate. The real
recording date and release date is unknown at this time."

You see how believable all this info is? It's not very reliable. It wouldn't
surprise me, when there are only 5 copies of it (1 for Dio, and a few for
the other bandkids). This looks like a fan story, who thinks Dio is God.

I don't know what a "freshman" in college is, but he could easily be 15 or
16 when he was at college. An intelligent little guy, what's wrong with
that?

> Exhibit #2: http://members.aol.com/battmaker/pages/prophetspic.html . I
> think you'll enjoy examining these pictures while you eat your crow.

I saw them... He looks very young, besides: tell me the age of the pictures.

>
> Exhibit #3: http://members.xoom.com/DioFan/ . 9th song down, left column.
>
> Do you still want to maintain he is exactly 50 years old?????

To be honest, I am not 100% sure, BUT I think there's a bigger chance he is
50-54 than that he is 59-61, which means I would be closer. Lemmy and the
guys of Sabbath and Purple are definetely older.

Forostar

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>
> "Rob Sluder" <slu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000323192732...@ng-fm1.aol.com...
> > All right everyone!!!!!
> > Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
> >
> > I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his
birthday
> to be
> > July 10, 1949.
> >
> > http://members.tripod.com/davytany/a2z/10a2z199.htm
> >
> > Later,
> > Rob

Wooooo, what now Crawdad? Sorry dude, but you were wrong all the time.

>
> You simply can't believe this stuff. They don't know and more than Hit
> Parader knows. Ronnie's age has been reported to be everything from 40 to
> 60. They simply get hold of the same bad information as Aardshok. His
> birthday is correct, but not birth year. Ronnie and his management
haven't
> exactly squelched the rumors of being younger either. Why would he? For
> whatever reason, he's self conscious about his age. If someone wants to
> believe he was traveling NY, playing fraternity houses, fronting bands,
> writing songs, playing bass and trumpet, and releasing 45's at the age of
9,
> well, I can't stop you. However, I'm sure this will help a certain person
> ignore virtually all the facts to the contrary.

Ow man, you act pathetic and like a child. You just want to be right.
Sometimes you are wrong in life... too bad.

Forostar

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>
> "Rob Sluder" <slu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000323192732...@ng-fm1.aol.com...
> > All right everyone!!!!!
> > Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
> >
> > I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his
birthday
> to be
> > July 10, 1949.
> >
> > http://members.tripod.com/davytany/a2z/10a2z199.htm
> >
> > Later,
> > Rob
>
> You simply can't believe this stuff. They don't know and more than Hit
> Parader knows. Ronnie's age has been reported to be everything from 40 to
> 60. They simply get hold of the same bad information as Aardshok.

The information you give us, from this AOL - link can be at least as bad
(probably worse) as the info Rob and I are providing. So whatever you're
trying to prove with help of that website, it could be bullshit.. Someone
made a nice story on that site, but didn't tell us proper sources, where
he/she got his/her info from.

>His
> birthday is correct, but not birth year. Ronnie and his management
haven't
> exactly squelched the rumors of being younger either. Why would he? For
> whatever reason, he's self conscious about his age. If someone wants to
> believe he was traveling NY, playing fraternity houses, fronting bands,
> writing songs, playing bass and trumpet, and releasing 45's at the age of
9,
> well, I can't stop you. However, I'm sure this will help a certain person
> ignore virtually all the facts to the contrary.

That person would be you, mister.

CLS

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>
> CLS <C_...@altavista.com> schreef in berichtnieuws

Wait........you're not 100% sure??? What about Aardshok? Didn't they tell
you he was 50 years old? Are you saying you don't believe them or that they
may have the wrong information? You've spent a lot of time telling he was
50 and now you're backing off that preposterous claim?

Seriously though, I've never anybody so hellbent on not giving in that he
would make himself look like a moron in the process. Just be a man and admit
that I'm right. Ronnie is *at least* 58. Your only evidence to the
contrary is Aardshok and bizarre theories about him being a child prodigy.
Now you're even waffling on that.

As for anybody in Sabbath being older than Ronnie, you're just talking out
your ass again. Iommi: born 2/19/48 ++++ Ward: born 5/5/48 ++++ Ozzy: born
12/3/28 ++++ Geezer: born 7/17/49. When Ronnie was in college, these guys
were 11 or 12 years old.

Crawdad

Johnfwolfe

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>From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com wrote:

>As for anybody in Sabbath being older than Ronnie, you're just talking out
>your ass again. Iommi: born 2/19/48 ++++ Ward: born 5/5/48 ++++ Ozzy: born
>12/3/28 ++++ Geezer: born 7/17/49. When Ronnie was in college, these guys
>were 11 or 12 years old.

--------------------------------------------------------
I love these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those hand
tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.

Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn my living,
I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if anybody really
wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex larynx was born,
I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald James Padavona.
In fact, it's the name he still uses in "real life". He has four different
addresses in California: one in L.A., one in Encino, one in Tarzana and one in
Valley Village. His family is spread throughout New York and California. I
have each and every address, but if you guys want to do some celebrity stalking
and bug his relatives, get them for yourself. He was born in New Hampshire.
Although it can be accomplished with some creative storytelling, New Hampshire
birth records aren't the easiest to get. Therefore, I would advise that you do
some checking at the Portsmouth Herald or at the Foster's Daily Democrat, and
look up birth announcements.

There are many other ways to find the exact information you all are looking
for, but I've wasted enough time as it is. It's really not all that difficult
if you know what you are doing, have some spare time, and have the resources.

Happy stalking.


CLS

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"Johnfwolfe" <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
> >From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com wrote:
>
> >As for anybody in Sabbath being older than Ronnie, you're just talking
out
> >your ass again. Iommi: born 2/19/48 ++++ Ward: born 5/5/48 ++++ Ozzy:
born
> >12/3/28 ++++ Geezer: born 7/17/49. When Ronnie was in college, these
guys
> >were 11 or 12 years old.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> I love these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those
hand
> tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.

Damn! He is old, isn't he? Shoulda been '48.

>
> Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn my
living,
> I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if anybody
really
> wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex larynx was
born,
> I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald James
Padavona.

Actually it's Pavadona --- I think. Not sure about the exact spelling, but
the d and the v should be switched.

> In fact, it's the name he still uses in "real life". He has four
different
> addresses in California: one in L.A., one in Encino, one in Tarzana and
one in
> Valley Village. His family is spread throughout New York and California.
I
> have each and every address, but if you guys want to do some celebrity
stalking
> and bug his relatives, get them for yourself. He was born in New
Hampshire.
> Although it can be accomplished with some creative storytelling, New
Hampshire
> birth records aren't the easiest to get. Therefore, I would advise that
you do
> some checking at the Portsmouth Herald or at the Foster's Daily Democrat,
and
> look up birth announcements.
>
> There are many other ways to find the exact information you all are
looking
> for, but I've wasted enough time as it is. It's really not all that
difficult
> if you know what you are doing, have some spare time, and have the
resources.

Look pal, I'm getting sick of your continuous jabs at the veracity of
Aardvark (or Aardshok or whatever it's called). He is 50! I admit defeat.

Crawdad

Forostar

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Let me make one thing clear, dude: I don't believe YOU.
It could be that Aardschok is wrong... in theory this is possible..and it's
very possible that they are right.
But again, I think it's rediculous to say Dio is 61.... then he was born
before WWII.... I have told you many times in this rant, why I don't think
he is around 60 years.

I am not 100% sure because of all this stuff you're telling me... that's
obvious. But still I think it could be right, and NO, I won't admit that he
is at least 56.... actually, the age that you're coming up with is getting
less with every of your posts.. first it was at least 60, then it was 59 or
61, now it's at least 56..! Who is the one who is not sure of himself? You
are.


>
> Seriously though, I've never anybody so hellbent on not giving in that he
> would make himself look like a moron in the process. Just be a man and
admit
> that I'm right. Ronnie is *at least* 58. Your only evidence to the
> contrary is Aardshok and bizarre theories about him being a child prodigy.
> Now you're even waffling on that.

Pardon me? Someone supported the 50 age, with his birthdate. These are
pretty strong arguments.

> As for anybody in Sabbath being older than Ronnie, you're just talking out
> your ass again. Iommi: born 2/19/48 ++++ Ward: born 5/5/48 ++++ Ozzy:
born
> 12/3/28 ++++ Geezer: born 7/17/49. When Ronnie was in college, these guys
> were 11 or 12 years old.


right: Ozzy born in 1928.. who is talking out his ass here? *fart*


And indeed... all guys are older than Dio, except for Geezer, who is only 7
days younger.

Forostar

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>
> "Johnfwolfe" <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
> news:20000324104933...@ng-ce1.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
> > >From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com wrote:
> >
> > >As for anybody in Sabbath being older than Ronnie, you're just talking
> out
> > >your ass again. Iommi: born 2/19/48 ++++ Ward: born 5/5/48 ++++ Ozzy:
> born
> > >12/3/28 ++++ Geezer: born 7/17/49. When Ronnie was in college, these
> guys
> > >were 11 or 12 years old.
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > I love these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those
> hand
> > tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.
>
> Damn! He is old, isn't he? Shoulda been '48.
>
> >
> > Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn my
> living,
> > I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if anybody
> really
> > wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex larynx was
> born,
> > I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald James
> Padavona.
>
> Actually it's Pavadona --- I think. Not sure about the exact spelling,
but
> the d and the v should be switched.

Nope, it's Padovana --- I think

> Look pal, I'm getting sick of your continuous jabs at the veracity of
> Aardvark (or Aardshok or whatever it's called). He is 50! I admit
defeat.

Whatever...
It's called Aardschok (means Earthquake).

CLS

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"Forostar" <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
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> Let me make one thing clear, dude: I don't believe YOU.

Or Matt Baker's page with the bio....or the photos....or Tapio's Dio
page....or any of the other stuff that I've offered. Fine, be an idiot.
Rely on Aardvark.

You are a certifiable, card-carrying idiot of the highest order.

Crawdad


Shiflet

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Hate to break this to you Forostar, but Dio IS older than 50. I thought this
was well established, but I guess since Aardshoc, lord of all things metal,
has said otherwise, it's not...

Danny Shiflet
"You, don't have to wait, I'll be too late,
When you meet to jump off the edge.
I'm not like you and I don't wanna be,
Follow the times to a place you can't see
Don't call in doubt what the fashion may bring
and you'll be...falling down!"-Edguy, Falling Down

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com
>>> -----------

I llove these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those hand


>> tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.

>
>Damn! He is old, isn't he? Shoulda been '48.
>
>>
>> Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn my
>living, I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if anybody
>really wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex larynx was
>born, I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald James
Padavona.

>
>Actually it's Pavadona --- I think. Not sure about the exact spelling, but
>the d and the v should be switched.

Nope. My spelling is the correct one. And if anybody was planning on calling
directory assistance, his number is non-published.

Anyway, anybody who thinks that Dio is 50 would be in the ballpark if they were
talking about dog years, which would make Dio about 350 in human years. Dio is
very lucky, since people shrink as they get older. With Dio, who'll notice?


Forostar

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
20000324140943...@ng-fu1.aol.com...

> >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
> >From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com
> >>> -----------
>
> I llove these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those
hand
> >> tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.
>
> >
> >Damn! He is old, isn't he? Shoulda been '48.
> >
> >>
> >> Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn my
> >living, I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if
anybody
> >really wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex
larynx was
> >born, I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald James
> Padavona.
>
> >
> >Actually it's Pavadona --- I think. Not sure about the exact spelling,
but
> >the d and the v should be switched.
>
> Nope. My spelling is the correct one. And if anybody was planning on
calling
> directory assistance, his number is non-published.

Nope it's Padovana. check www.black-sabbath.com

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>From: "Forostar" foro...@casema.net


>Nope it's Padovana. check www.black-sabbath.com

-------------------------------------------------------
You're too hooked to what these websites have to say. I think if a website
said that he was a first cousin of Moses, you would believe it. What
foolishness. Dio is the half-brother of King Tut, but is absolutely no
relation to Moses. Anyway, trust me on this one. It's Padavona. Look up real
estate records in the county courthouses in California, and that's what you'll
discover. I do this for a living. I have to filter through the information to
discern what information is real, and what is bogus. It seems that you prefer
the comfort of unreliable information provided by pimple-faced gossip
columnists who know how to use a keyboard and modem, so believe whatever you
want.

CLS

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"Johnfwolfe" <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
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WHAT ABOUT WHAT AARDVARK SAYS!!!!!!!!!

I won't believe it until you show it to me......and even then I won't say I
believe it because I'd rather look like an idiot than a pussy.

Crawdad

Rob Sluder

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>You simply can't believe this stuff. They don't know and more than Hit
>Parader knows. Ronnie's age has been reported to be everything from 40 to
>60

Born in 1949 is also what Hard Radio had stated in their news section last
summer. We'll just have to wait until July 10th to verify that one, though.
I've seen that year in several locations so that is the one I have more faith
in. I really don't care what anyone else "claims." Until it is confirmed
somewhere you can rant and rave all you want. Either way, he's still almost
twice my age.

Later,
Rob

Rob Sluder

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>The information you give us, from this AOL - link can be at least as bad
>(probably worse) as the info Rob and I are providing. So whatever you're
>trying to prove with help of that website, it could be bullshit.. Someone
>made a nice story on that site, bu
>didn't tell us proper sources, where
>he/she got his/her info from.

That was actually the primary reason that I posted the link I found. Just to
challenge the validity of another personal website.

Later,
Rob


Rob Sluder

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>From: johnf...@aol.comnet

>No disrespect intended, Rob, but if you truly believe a purported birthdate
>found on a celebrity website is gospel, then maybe you can get Elvis to sign
>one of my bottles of Rogaine.

No disrespect taken. I was just pointing out that I can find another site with
a different birth date. I was alway under the impression, though, that he was
actually around 55 (in between both of the disputed ages).

Later,
Rob

Rob Sluder

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>From: johnf...@aol.comnet (Johnfwolfe)

>Dio is the half-brother of King Tut, but is absolutely no
>relation to Moses.

I thought he was the second son of Philip of Macedon. IE. Alexander's
brother... ;^)

Later,
Rob

Edward Diekman

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I have a magazine article from '84 that said Dio released his first
single with a local band in 1958 (!) So, if we assume that Ronnie was at
least 18 in '58 (the same year Bruce was born... now THAT makes you
think!) and '58 was 42 years ago, that does indeed mae Ronnie at least
60. You have to admit that is impressive.
Rob

Truth, oh the truth is never clear
Perhaps again next year
Hope lives on, beneath the blazing sun
That one day you'll come....

B. Dickinson 1997


Quorthon

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Forostar <foro...@casema.net> wrote in message
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>
> Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 20000324140943...@ng-fu1.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA

> > >From: "CLS" C_...@altavista.com
> > >>> -----------
> >
> > I llove these inane arguments. Ozzy was born in 1928? Maybe it's those
> hand
> > >> tattoos that make him appear so young and frisky.
> >
> > >
> > >Damn! He is old, isn't he? Shoulda been '48.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Since we are now in my neck of the woods with respect to how I earn
my
> > >living, I took five minutes out of my schedule this morning. So, if
> anybody
> > >really wants to know what year that petrified fossil with the T-Rex
> larynx was
> > >born, I'll give you all a kickstart: The guy's real name is Ronald
James
> > Padavona.
> >
> > >
> > >Actually it's Pavadona --- I think. Not sure about the exact spelling,
> but
> > >the d and the v should be switched.
> >
> > Nope. My spelling is the correct one. And if anybody was planning on
> calling
> > directory assistance, his number is non-published.
>
> Nope it's Padovana. check www.black-sabbath.com
>
> Forostar
>
> "Out in the dark there burns a dream"
> - A. Smith, 1986 -
>

My Elf cd's say " Padovona " .

Johnfwolfe

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>From: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com wrote:
>
>My Elf cd's say " Padovona "
--------------------------------------------------------
Your Elf records are as reliable as the web sites which claim that Dio is 26
years old, 6'5" tall, 260 pounds, and moonlights as a middle linebacker with
the Chicago Bears. With 100% certainty, his name is Padavona.

Quorthon

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
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Are you related to him? No. Where does you '100 % certainty' come from? I'll
say it's Padovona.

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>From: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com
>
>
>Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
>news:20000324224847...@ng-fb1.aol.com...
>> >From: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com wrote:
>> >
>> >My Elf cd's say " Padovona "
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Your Elf records are as reliable as the web sites which claim that Dio is
>26
>> years old, 6'5" tall, 260 pounds, and moonlights as a middle linebacker
>with
>> the Chicago Bears. With 100% certainty, his name is Padavona.
>

: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com wrote:
>Are you related to him? No. Where does you '100 % certainty' come from? I'll
>say it's Padovona.

--------------------------------------------------------
I knew that Dio was a dwarf, but I was unaware that he was also a white-collar
criminal. My information comes straight from public records. So, unless he is
going around committing crimes by falsifying public records, I'll stick to my
conclusion of "100% certainty".


Forostar

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
20000325153208...@ng-ce1.aol.com...

You 2 are both wrong, probably: it's Padovana (also according to
www.black-sabbath.com, which makes more sense, since there is an Italian
town, called 'Padova'.

Quorthon

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
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If you're going by public records, why don't you have his birthdate?
Wouldn't that be on there as well?
>

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA

>From: "Forostar" foro...@casema.net wrote:
>>You 2 are both wrong, probably: it's Padovana (also according to
>www.black-sabbath.com, which makes more sense, since there is an Italian
>town, called 'Padova'.
--------------------------------------------------------
This is so freakin' silly. Whatever it was when his family originally came
through Ellis Island, it is now Padavona, as is the name of the rest of his
family that lives in the United States. I'm not simply yanking the information
from some website that sounds legit because it ends in ".com" or is labeled as
"official". Curiosity got the best of me, so I had it looked up in actual
public records, which are available to anybody who wants to take a trip to the
courthouse to look at them. In this case, it was California real estate
records.

If you want to get his actual birthdate, look up his New Hampshire birth
announcement, which you'll likely find listed in the July 11, 1902 edition of
the Portsmouth Herald, right next to the article about the effects of the
Spanish-American War on the American economy. I know for a fact that on July
10, 2000, Dio will be 98.

With respect to his name, if you still are that darn stubborn, and if you want
to hound the part of his family that still lives on Cortland, New York, you'll
find that they also use the same spelling. Here's a thought: Call them up and
say, "Hey, this be Forostar. Whazzzuuuuuuuuuuuup? I'm just sitting here
watching the game, having a Bud. True, true. Oh, and one other thing...Does
your rich dwarf with the monster voice spell his name the same as you?"
They'll respect you for it.

Forostar

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Didn't you just say your own birthdate?
You sound like an old man.

Actually, I don't give a shit about this subject anymore, but for me he is,
and will be:
Padovana, b.d.: 10-7-1949

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA

>From: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com wrote:
>
>>If you're going by public records, why don't you have his birthdate?
>Wouldn't that be on there as well?
--------------------------------------------------------
Believe me, for what I do for a living, I wish it were that easy. Frankly, 10
years ago, it would have been as simple as running a few computer reports. I
would have had everything you wanted to know about Dio, including the size of
his webbed feet. However, ever since that nut in California shot and killed an
actress by using information gleaned from motor vehicle records, much
information is a lot harder to come by. California usually leads, then the
rest of the country follows. A few months ago, the U.S. Supreme Court put a
stake in my heart with a decision regarding motor vehicle records. A lot of
available sources have dried up because of these stalkers. There's still ways
to get around the dried-up sources and the roadblocks placed by the various
states and the feds, but it's a lot more time-consuming than it used to be.
The Internet is great in that it helps provide leads and clues, but the real
information has to come the old-fashioned way, and that involves looking
through dusty books and files in cavernous 100-year-old buildings. His real
date of birth is out there and readily available to anyone who wants to find
it, but obviously, nobody is all that interested in taking the time.

mezzfit6

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WHO GIVES A FUCK? HE IS OLD


Forostar wrote in message <8bdgvq$5qr$1...@newsspool.casema.net>...


>
>Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> schreef in berichtnieuws

>20000323110300...@ng-fb1.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>> >From: "Forostar" foro...@casema.net wrote:
>>
>> >He is 50.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> In dog years?
>>
>
>Nope, in human years.

Quorthon

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Johnfwolfe <johnf...@aol.comnet> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA

I asked a simple question and you respond with an essay. Wouldn't it have
been easier to say, ' No , his birthdate was not included ' ?

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>From: "Quorthon" quortho...@home.com wrote:

>> would have had everything you wanted to know about Dio, including the size

>I asked a simple question and you respond with an essay. Wouldn't it have
>been easier to say, ' No , his birthdate was not included '?

--------------------------------------------------------
Ummmm.....yes. But I would think that you would have inferred that, or I
obviously would have posted it in the first place.

Anyway, I could easily get his year of birth by using one of my programs, but
it would cost me about $20.00. Much more importantly, it would violate one of
my contracts, and I'm not going to risk that just to settle a dumb argument
between a few people in this newsgroup. A reasonable person should assume that
Dio was a teenager when the Indians kicked General Custer's ass, and just leave
his age at that.

Tony Szablowski

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Rodrigo Andrade wrote in message
<3HtC4.14532$9M1.9...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
>>Go get it. Now. Go.
>
>
>Goodbye C++ class. Soundwaves, here I come...


Hey, I've blown off a few programming classes for the more important things
in life, too, Rodrigo. You gotta do what you gotta do! :-))


---
Regards,
Tony
"A good cigar is as great a comfort to a
man as a good cry to a woman."
-- E.G. Bulwer-Lytton

Tony Szablowski

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Rob Sluder wrote in message
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>All right everyone!!!!!
>Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
>
>I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his birthday
to be
>July 10, 1949.


I don't believe it. Ronnie's gotta be older than that.

Tony Szablowski

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samiam wrote in message ...
>Saw them last night in Ventura,CA. Wasn't horribly impressed with the new
>material (they played the entire album minus the spoken parts which was
>kinda cool) as was the rest of the crowd. But its a concept album, which
>gets bonus points in my book so I'll probably end up buying it. BTW- I
>thought Dio did a waaaay better performance when he opened for Maiden at
the
>Universal Ampitheater.


I must admit the shine is wearing off. I do Magica a lot, but not as much
as Bruce's last three albums. Totally different albums, yes, but Magica
could use some more .....energy.

Tony Szablowski

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Forostar wrote in message <8bddrr$3vo$1...@newsspool.casema.net>...
>> <chuckle> He's gotta be as old as the Man on the Silver Mountain, eh?
>> May the Gods bless him, though.
>
>He is 50.


Is this straight from Ronnie's mouth? 50? No way, Aad. Sorry, but I
highly, highly, doubt he's only 50. Anywhere between 52-55 I think, but no
younger than that. I won't believe his reported age unless it comes from
Ronnie himself.

Tony Szablowski

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CLS wrote in message <8be4rg$9ln$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>...
>The bottom line of your argument is Aardshok said so. Believe them if you
>want to, but it's absolutely preposterous.


I gotta simply agree. With all due respect to my friend Forostar,
there's just no way Ronnie's 50. And you are correct. I have never, ever,
heard Ronnie, nor have any of my close friends who are into Dio, divulge
his age or birthdate.

Tony Szablowski

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CLS wrote in message <8becmd$6s2$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>...
>Exhibit #2: http://members.aol.com/battmaker/pages/prophetspic.html . I
>think you'll enjoy examining these pictures while you eat your crow.


Wow. It's wild to see Ronnie without the long hair, and especially with
THAT hair from back then.

Tony Szablowski

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Johnfwolfe wrote in message
<20000325173516...@ng-fn1.aol.com>...

>With respect to his name, if you still are that darn stubborn, and if you
want
>to hound the part of his family that still lives on Cortland, New York,
you'll
>find that they also use the same spelling. Here's a thought: Call them
up and
>say, "Hey, this be Forostar. Whazzzuuuuuuuuuuuup? I'm just sitting here
>watching the game, having a Bud. True, true. Oh, and one other
thing...Does
>your rich dwarf with the monster voice spell his name the same as you?"
>They'll respect you for it.

ROTFLMFAO!! :-)))))))))))))

John, this has got to be the funniest post you've done here in the Maiden
NG. Sometimes you come up with some real gems, John. Thanks for the
hearty laughs!

CLS

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"Tony Szablowski" <!HATE!tonyszablowski!SPAM!@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message news:HkqD4.18839$9M1.1...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> Rob Sluder wrote in message
> <20000323192732...@ng-fm1.aol.com>...
> >All right everyone!!!!!
> >Those of you arguing over how old Dio is....well he is currently 50.
> >
> >I went to a celebrity birthday link (listed below) and found his birthday
> to be
> >July 10, 1949.
>
>
> I don't believe it. Ronnie's gotta be older than that.

Just look at the friggin' pictures of the guy! Check out this one (at the
very bottom, in the middle): http://www.diozine.com/page10.html

I think the guy looks fine for almost 60 and sounds INCREDIBLE ---- but he
ain't just getting out of his 40's. He looks his age, which isn't a bad
thing.

Crawdad

Tony Szablowski

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CLS wrote in message <8blqog$9op$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>...

>> I don't believe it. Ronnie's gotta be older than that.
>
>Just look at the friggin' pictures of the guy! Check out this one (at the
>very bottom, in the middle): http://www.diozine.com/page10.html
>
>I think the guy looks fine for almost 60 and sounds INCREDIBLE ---- but he
>ain't just getting out of his 40's. He looks his age, which isn't a bad
>thing.


Personally, I give the guy major high-5's for doing what he's doing at his
age. The guy's got his vision and his thing going and gods bless him, he's
doing it. I hope I still enjoy doing whatever the hell I'm doing in my
life at his age.

Rob Sluder

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>From: Tripo...@webtv.net (Edward Diekman)

>So, if we assume that Ronnie was at
>least 18 in '58

So, just for the sake of arguement, you are telling us he can't be under 18?
Was it illegal back then to record under the age of 18?

Rob Sluder

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>WHO GIVES A FUCK? HE IS OLD

Who cares how old he is, he still ROCKS HARD!

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA

>From: slu...@aol.com (Rob Sluder) wrote:

>Who cares how old he is, he still ROCKS HARD!

--------------------------------------------------------
Dio rocks hard. Petrification RULES.

Johnfwolfe

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>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>From: slu...@aol.com (Rob Sluder) wrote:

>So, just for the sake of arguement, you are telling us he can't be under 18?
>Was it illegal back then to record under the age of 18?

-------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was illegal to record when a person was under the age of 18. Indeed,
the Dark Ages were a very unenlightened period, especially in the years after
the Black Plague. Thankfully for rock fans, Dio survived, held on to his
medieval roots, and developed a cool logo.

Nausea

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Dio is 21 and proud of it.

Salud

Nausea

Catman the Great

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> I'll have to give his new album another listen. Seems the music is O.K.,
but I
> couldn't get through that last track without passing out from boredom. I
want
> to hear Dio screaming at me, not reading me some bedtime story. Besides,
I
> think it's kind of cheesy that the hero is named "Fonzie", and the villain
is
> named "Urkel".

And then, at the end of the night, after a fierce battle in the land of the
Neon Rainbows, Fonzie had slain Urkel with his magical rainbow sword and
danced a merry jig. The Rainbow people were happy. Thus ends the tale of the
great rainbow warriors.

Catchy, no? Classic DIO writing.

With Regards,
Catman the Great

Johnfwolfe

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>>Subject: Re: OT: DIO......MAGICA
>>From: slu...@aol.com (Rob Sluder) wrote:
>
>>Who cares how old he is, he still ROCKS HARD!
>------------------------------------------------------
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