Bruce Dickinson to replace Sammy Hagar
Lane Weiss
Parasite
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> I think it would be awesome if Bruce Dickinson came in to replace Sammy Hagar in Van
> Halen. Van Halen being my favorite group, with Iron Maiden right behind,
I don't think that the guy who used to sing a serious song like "The Number of the
Beast" in a heavy metal band could ever sing something like "Running with the Devil" in
a trendy hard rock band. It would definately not be a good move for Van Halen.
=Parasite
James M. Thelen
>I think it would be awesome if Bruce Dickinson came in to replace Sammy Hagar in Van Halen. Van Halen being my favorite group, wit=
h Iron Maiden right behind, would really kick ass!
>
>
And another - Are you nuts?
Van Halen is a horrible band, and would be no better with Bruce. It
would just make him look like an ass. Neither side would benefit from the
replacement. Except maybe Hagar, who would at least have gotten out.
KKL
Philip Wang
Lane Weiss <la...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>I think it would be awesome if Bruce Dickinson came in to replace Sammy Hagar in Van Halen. Van Halen being my favorite group, with Iron Maiden right behind, would really kick ass!
>
>
I'll say right off that I fully respect Judas Priest for finding a singer that
almost no one has ever heard of.
At least people in Europe knew who Blaze was when he was considered for the
band. Sammy Hagar was a big name from his Montrose days and also from being
a solo artist. I think it would be kind of nice if Van Halen got some nobody
because famous names tend to attract a lot of ghosts. And I hope that he isn't
so fixated on sex as Sammy Hagar was. I mean, I liked OU812 and the others
were OK, but I hope that Van Halen goes through a personality change like how
they did when David Roth quit.
Speaking of which, I am curious as to whether the new Iron Maiden song on the
new compilation is going to be more of what we recently got, a revisit to the
past (hope not - we know how NPFTD and FOTD turned out. Not that I didn't like
them, but just that they still weren't that successful), or maybe more of a
change? I hope they change more. There is still so much potential in this
new lineup that The X Factor just barely hinted at. Since Iron Maiden is a
medieval torture instrument, maybe they could expound on dark medieval times
and beef up their sound a bit while they're at it. Can't wait to hear that new
song. I can't believe I'm actually going to buy a double CD set just for that.
Well, I've done worse. I've actually bought a compilation before even though I
had all the songs on that compilation already.
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Philip Wang
>I don't think that the guy who used to sing a serious song like "The Number of the
>Beast" in a heavy metal band could ever sing something like "Running with the Devil" in
He can't sing "Running With The Devil" but he is permitted to sing songs like
"I Wish I Was The Saddle Of A Schoolgirl's Bicycle," and "Inside Out" ?!
You should have heard some of the last songs Bruce wrote for Samson. Great
songs, really bluesy though, especially the song "Red Skies." It sounds great
with Nicky Moore singing it, but can you imagine Bruce singing that? Whoah.
You just have to have heard that melody to get what I'm hinting at. Van Halen
is not beyond what Bruce has done before (and what Bruce has done before was
pretty cool for heavy rock and roll).
>a trendy hard rock band. It would definately not be a good move for Van Halen.
Trendy hard rock band? I may not like Van Halen that much, but even I have
to recognise that Van Halen started at least two trends. it's one thing to
follow a trend and another to start it. Much more respect goes to one that
starts it than one who follows it. (The guitar god from the s/t album is one,
and the pop metal format of 1984 is the other. Maybe they didn't invent it
alone, but they were one of the first both times, or at least the ones who
were among the first publicly recognised and imitated.)
Parasite
> He can't sing "Running With The Devil" but he is permitted to sing songs like
> "I Wish I Was The Saddle Of A Schoolgirl's Bicycle," and "Inside Out" ?!
> You should have heard some of the last songs Bruce wrote for Samson. Great
> songs, really bluesy though, especially the song "Red Skies." It sounds great
> with Nicky Moore singing it, but can you imagine Bruce singing that? Whoah.
> You just have to have heard that melody to get what I'm hinting at. Van Halen
> is not beyond what Bruce has done before (and what Bruce has done before was
> pretty cool for heavy rock and roll).
Of course, Bruce is premitted to do whatever he wants, but singing in Van Halen is
something that I can't imagine him ever doing. I'm not familiar with Samson, but
everything that he has done in Iron Maiden and Skunkworks hasn't been anything like Van
Halen, aside from some of the covers like "Nodding Donkey Blues." And Samson was a long
time ago, I'm sure Bruce has matured since them. All of the lyrics to his new stuff is
pretty well-thought out and mature, unlike the 'happy-go-lucky' style songs of Van Halen
. I'm not saying that VH has no intelligent songs, but the ones they are really known
for like 'I can't wait to fell your love tonight' (or whatever that song is called) are
really a far cry from anything that Bruce would put his name on today, it seems.
Plus, Van Halen would never want Bruce Dickinson. Just about everyone knows of Eddie
Van Halen, David Lee Roth, and Sammy Haggar. I'm sure that most people don't know who
Bruce Dickinson is. And when they found out who he is, they wouldn't like it, because
Iron Maiden does not sell. If VH wants a lead singer that people are going to want to
hear and hear about, and one that radio stations are going to line up for (which I
suspect is what VH wants), they'll be much better going off going for Roth than anyone
else, especially someone like Bruce Dickinson.
> Trendy hard rock band? I may not like Van Halen that much, but even I have
> to recognise that Van Halen started at least two trends. it's one thing to
> follow a trend and another to start it. Much more respect goes to one that
> starts it than one who follows it. (The guitar god from the s/t album is one,
> and the pop metal format of 1984 is the other. Maybe they didn't invent it
> alone, but they were one of the first both times, or at least the ones who
> were among the first publicly recognised and imitated.)
Okay, maybe I wansn't giving them enough credit. They don't really follow the trends.
They seem to be doing their own thing, and that's respectable.
=Parasite
Michael Goldsmith
: I don't think that the guy who used to sing a serious song like "The Number of the
:
Number of the Beast is about as serious of a song as running with the
devil, if i remember correctly, IM produced this song to piss off people
who claimed that IM was satanic.
MRG
Parasite
> Number of the Beast is about as serious of a song as running with the
> devil, if i remember correctly, IM produced this song to piss off people
> who claimed that IM was satanic.
I think that Iron Maiden was pissed off when people called them Satanic because of the
Number of the Beast. After that, they recorded that backwards message before "Still
Life" so that bigots who didn't understand or bother to decipher it would call it a
Satanic message.
I heard that TNOTB was about a very disturbing dream that Stever Harris had. You know,
it treats the devil as a threat, a very real source of evil, not someone or something to
go partying with.
=Parasite
Jean-Philippe Morin
>Number of the Beast is about as serious of a song as running with the
>devil, if i remember correctly, IM produced this song to piss off people
>who claimed that IM was satanic.
I think people claimed that Maiden is satanic because of The Number of
the Beast! It's the only song with vague satanic reference in the
first albums, I think. Even if death and ghost was a major topic on
Killers. Number of the Beast is simply about a dream Harris made.
What maiden made to piss off those who claimed them to be satanic is
the backward message before Still Life, on the Pieve of Mind album.
Steve said it in interview.
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Philip Wang
>Number of the Beast is about as serious of a song as running with the
>devil, if i remember correctly, IM produced this song to piss off people
>who claimed that IM was satanic.
>
No, people said Iron Maiden were Satanic because of this song. It was based
on partly the Omen II - Damien film and also a nightmare Steve Harris had.
To piss off people who said Maiden were making subliminal messages in their
lyrics and being Satanic, they did that little intro to "Still Life."
I've got a doodle in my noodle and its name is Minkey Boodle
Phu Luong
No!!! Van Halen doesn't deserve someone like Bruce!
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