Enough already folks. This is the MAIDEN ng, right?
Tony Szablowski
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Igor Bratic
Yeah, you're right, we should talk about Maiden. So, who thinks Blaze
sucks? <G>
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>Yeah, you're right, we should talk about Maiden. So, who thinks
>Blaze sucks? <G>
Yes, but WHY, WHY, WHY does he suck???!? YOU MUST TELL ME!!! LOL!
<G>
I think he sucks because he sings out of key; he has no stage
presence(I know, subjective), and he plays more video games than
practicing with the band. ;-)
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Igor Bratic
I agree, I'd also add the fact that he doesn't take the band seriuosly,
that he's a terrible songwriter and that he's musicaly uneducated.
Tony Szablowski
>I agree, I'd also add the fact that he doesn't take the band
seriuosly,
>that he's a terrible songwriter and that he's musicaly uneducated.
If that first one is true, then I guess that'd be a good enough reason
for Steve to give him da boot! As for the last two though, that's
really subjective. What other bands has he been in, besides
Wolfsbane?
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Igor Bratic
I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any instrument, he
probably can't read notes, which degrades ones understanding of music.
JustSayOz
> Let's get back to talking about Maiden and all things related to them.
>
> The purpose of this NG is not Psyche101, or how to make friends on the
>
> Internet. It's about Maiden.
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> Tony
Don't forget Blaze and Janick rumors/bashing
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Arzka
who doesn't know how to read notes? Of course he takes the band
seriously. If he wouldn't take the band seriously, he'd propably been
kicked out of Maiden ages ago.
-Arzka-
On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:03:20 GMT, Igor Bratic <bra...@home.com>
wrote:
Igor Bratic
>
> Do you think that any band (especially Iron Maiden) would get a singer
> who doesn't know how to read notes?
If he can't play any instrument, how can he read notes?
> Of course he takes the band
> seriously. If he wouldn't take the band seriously, he'd propably been
> kicked out of Maiden ages ago.
Oh yeah, he's so serious about it, he beat Crash Bandicoot numerous
times, yet he can't write a decent song.
Tokus
Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368C02...@home.com>...
>I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any instrument, he
>probably can't read notes, which degrades ones understanding of music.
a few years ago, there was a Headbangers Ball special on mtv europe, and the
presentor asked Steve how he wrote the songs, and apparently Steve can't
read notes either.
cu
Tonnie
Tokus
Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368C2E...@home.com>...
>Arzka wrote:
>>
>> Do you think that any band (especially Iron Maiden) would get a singer
>> who doesn't know how to read notes?
>
>If he can't play any instrument, how can he read notes?
by learning? I can't play any instrument, but I can read notes (ok, not very
good, but that's because it didn't interest me. but if you want, you can
learn it, even without playing an instrument).
cu
Tonnie
Igor Bratic
Really? He can't read notes? That's amazing. But he must be able to
read bass tabs though.
Igor Bratic
It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
to play an instrument.
Tokus
Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368CC6...@home.com>...
>It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
>leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
>to play an instrument.
I think it is easier if you play an instrument, because you can play the
notes on it.
cu
Tonnie
Igor Bratic
Yeah, notes would definitely make more sense. Besides, I can read notes
but only play what I read on piano, while I use guitar tabs when I play
guitar.
Tony Szablowski
>Don't forget Blaze and Janick rumors/bashing
Or Bruce or Steve, or Rod Smallwood, Dave the lights guy, Pyro Pete,
etc..... :-)
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Tony Szablowski
>I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any instrument, he
>probably can't read notes, which degrades ones understanding of
music.
Understanding the fundamentals of playing an instrument(s), but I
don't really think it's much of a musical hindrance if he can't play
anything. I think if he took up the gui-gui-guitar he may become more
expressive in his musical ideas.
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Tony Szablowski
>a few years ago, there was a Headbangers Ball special on mtv europe,
and >the presentor asked Steve how he wrote the songs, and apparently
Steve >can't read notes either.
Yeah, lord knows you don't need to read musical notation to write
music. In fact, there's been many, many musicians who couldn't read
a chart but wrote great songs.
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Tony Szablowski
>Do you think that any band (especially Iron Maiden) would get a
singer
1000%, yes. You don't have to read notation to be a great singer.
>seriously. If he wouldn't take the band seriously, he'd propably been
>kicked out of Maiden ages ago.
True, but he could be letting that go lately.....
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samiam
Jimi Hendrix immediately comes to mind, but check out the
thread on this same topic in alt.guitar.tab. Being able to
undertand sheet music (which I'm assuming you mean by
reading notes) has absolutely nothing to do with a person's
ability to understand music. Now if your talking about music
theory (knowing all the scales and so forth) I would tend to
agree with you that knowing that could be very helpful for a
musician.
-samiam
Tokus wrote in message <76ig58$592$2...@news2.xs4all.nl>...
>
>Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht
<368C02...@home.com>...
>>I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any
instrument, he
>>probably can't read notes, which degrades ones
understanding of music.
>
>
>a few years ago, there was a Headbangers Ball special on
mtv europe, and the
>presentor asked Steve how he wrote the songs, and
apparently Steve can't
>read notes either.
>
>cu
>Tonnie
>
>
Tony Szablowski
>thread on this same topic in alt.guitar.tab. Being able to
>undertand sheet music (which I'm assuming you mean by
>reading notes) has absolutely nothing to do with a person's
>ability to understand music. Now if your talking about music
Right. Ability to read notation does not interpret into musical
ability.
>theory (knowing all the scales and so forth) I would tend to
>agree with you that knowing that could be very helpful for a
>musician.
Right. But honestly I'd rather have someone with a greater
proficiency for writing what I'd consider good music than to have them
know how to read notation.
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Tom Fletcher
>for Steve to give him da boot! As for the last two though, that's
>really subjective. What other bands has he been in, besides
>Wolfsbane?
He has been in a band called Childsplay, but I have never heard anything by
them.
Tom Fletcher
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"You haunt me, you taunt me
You torture me back at your lair"
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Anton Gustavsson
> Tokus wrote:
> >
> > Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368CC6...@home.com>...
> > >It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
> > >leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
> > >to play an instrument.
> >
> > I think it is easier if you play an instrument, because you can play the
> > notes on it.
>
> Yeah, notes would definitely make more sense. Besides, I can read notes
> but only play what I read on piano, while I use guitar tabs when I play
> guitar.
Who cares if he sings offkey? The main thing is that he is a cool guy and he
fits perfectly into Maiden!
Shiflet
> Who cares if he sings offkey?
Most listeners?
> The main thing is that he is a cool guy
Why is that the "main thing"? I don't care if someone is the nicest
person on earth, if he can't sing I don't wanna hear him. Likewise, if
he's a complete ass but a damn good singer, I will listen to him.
> and he fits perfectly into Maiden!
Here I disagree. Maiden doesn't sound like Maiden these days. Not only
cause of Blaze's oh so out of place vocals, but because of the entire
banmd.
Danny Shiflet
"We plan ahead, that way we don't have to do anything right now"-
Valentine, Tremors
Peter R. Cook
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > Tokus wrote:
> > >
> > > Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368CC6...@home.com>...
> > > >It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
> > > >leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
> > > >to play an instrument.
> > >
> > > I think it is easier if you play an instrument, because you can play the
> > > notes on it.
> >
> > Yeah, notes would definitely make more sense. Besides, I can read notes
> > but only play what I read on piano, while I use guitar tabs when I play
> > guitar.
>
> fits perfectly into Maiden!
Seen em live and listened to em on cd and I never
noticed any part off key.
-Peter
Tony Szablowski
>He has been in a band called Childsplay, but I have never heard
anything by
>them.
<g> Makes 2 of us.
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Tony Szablowski
<368E7383...@ebox.tninet.se>...
>Who cares if he sings offkey? The main thing is that he is a cool guy
and he
>fits perfectly into Maiden!
Whah?? <shaking head> Am I actually reading what I think I'm
reading??
If you're gonna hire a guy to sing lead vocals, it's typically
accepted around the world(AFAIK) that the person can sing IN KEY with
the music. Unless you're Frank Zappa. ;-)
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Tony
Igor Bratic
>
> Igor Bratic wrote:
>
> > Tokus wrote:
> > >
> > > Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368CC6...@home.com>...
> > > >It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
> > > >leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
> > > >to play an instrument.
> > >
> > > I think it is easier if you play an instrument, because you can play the
> > > notes on it.
> >
> > Yeah, notes would definitely make more sense. Besides, I can read notes
> > but only play what I read on piano, while I use guitar tabs when I play
> > guitar.
>
People who have some sense of music and find that very annoying
> The main thing is that he is a cool guy
How's that the main thing? Lars Ulrich is an asshole but he's still a
very good drummer, I don't care if Blaze is the nicest guy in the world,
he just can't sing
and he
> fits perfectly into Maiden!
Yeah, the the rest of the band now sucks, so why would they need a
kick-ass singer like Bruce? Get a singer who sucks wo he'll fit in just
nicely.
Igor Bratic
>
> Anton Gustavsson wrote:
> >
> > Igor Bratic wrote:
> >
> > > Tokus wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368CC6...@home.com>...
> > > > >It's very hard. Actually not so hard as unlikely. If you're gonna
> > > > >leanr to read notes, you're probably gonna do it because you're learning
> > > > >to play an instrument.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is easier if you play an instrument, because you can play the
> > > > notes on it.
> > >
> > > Yeah, notes would definitely make more sense. Besides, I can read notes
> > > but only play what I read on piano, while I use guitar tabs when I play
> > > guitar.
> >
> > fits perfectly into Maiden!
>
> noticed any part off key.
Listen to the first verse of The Clairvoyant.
Rodrigo Andrade
>Wolfsbane?
If anything, he was a shower singer *LOL*
RODRIGO
Rodrigo Andrade
RODRIGO
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> I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any instrument, he
> probably can't read notes, which degrades ones understanding of music.
some of the greatest musicians can't read music. Just a thought. carry on...
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"Tokus" <to...@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
>
> Igor Bratic heeft geschreven in bericht <368C2E...@home.com>...
> >Arzka wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you think that any band (especially Iron Maiden) would get a singer
> >> who doesn't know how to read notes?
> >
>
> by learning? I can't play any instrument, but I can read notes (ok, not very
> good, but that's because it didn't interest me. but if you want, you can
> learn it, even without playing an instrument).
When you were in school, did you ever hear of a such thing as CHORUS? How do
you think great choruses like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir learn their
pieces????
I play instruments and I can read notes, but I can't play from reading notes
very well when I play the bass. I know which notes I am playing, I just
don't know where to start on the staff. I can read tab, though. ANYBODY can
read tab. One of the keys to being a great musician, though is NOT NEEDING
THE NOTES...to be able to do it all by ear.
Tom Fletcher
<76v45t$ror$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> I don't think any other band, and if he can't play any instrument, he
>> probably can't read notes, which degrades ones understanding of music.
People study the theory behind music, and can learn to read music, even
without learning to play instruments.
>some of the greatest musicians can't read music. Just a thought. carry
on...
This is true. It is the same for quite a lot of people. I am a guitarist and
have a wide knowledge of music theory, and know hundreds of scale positions
and shapes, not to mention various #9b5-multi-speckled-dim7 chords, but I am
not a very proficient sight-reader. Okay, I could probably sight read
something like "Yankee Doodle" or "When The Saints Go Marching In", but
nothing like a Maiden song without a tablature. You don't have to read music
to be able to play any instrument.