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Bruce Dickinson vs. Geoff Tate (Queensryche)

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Dan

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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Is Geoff Tate a better vocalist than Dickinson? I've been a fan of
Queensryche ever since 1983 up until Mindcrime (they couldn't top what
they did up to that point so they only place to go was down).

When I first heard their first EP in 83, they reminded me a lot of
Maiden. It's too bad Maiden couldn't lure Geoff Tate away after Bruce
left because Queensryche is horrible now as is the curent Maiden.

As far as a better vocalist, Geoff Tate gets my vote but I don't think
he compares to the total package Bruce offers in terms of stage
presence, song-writing, etc.

Stargazer

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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> Is Geoff Tate a better vocalist than Dickinson?

No. But what else would you expect on the Maiden ng?

Tate is a screecher. Bruce Dickinson has great tone, range, screams,
stage presence, showmanship, silly trousers, etc.


DLewisGmnr

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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tate has good high end but bruce has high and low power.

gmnr.


Lionheart

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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>As far as a better vocalist, Geoff Tate >gets
>my vote but I don't think he compares to
>the total package Bruce offers in terms of
>stage presence, song-writing, etc.

I too, first heard the QR Ep back around '84 and was blown away by
Geoff's high end vocals.Then when Rage For Order came out in '86, I knew
he was really special. I love Bruce, and think overall, that he brings
more to the table, but if you just went by voice alone, I would give the
nod to Geoff. There's something about the "high" singers that I really
like. I thought Geoff and Rob Halford were a couple of the best "high"
singers around, until I heard Tony Harnell of TNT and now I feel he's
the best. But getting back to Bruce and Geoff, Bruce has more range,
because he can go both low and high (although not as high), so based on
my tastes and affinity, I'll go against the grain of the NG and go with
Geoff.


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Somebody

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Dec 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/3/98
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Dan wrote in message <3664f8cf.6218141@news>...

>Is Geoff Tate a better vocalist than Dickinson? I've been a fan of
>Queensryche ever since 1983 up until Mindcrime (they couldn't top what
>they did up to that point so they only place to go was down).

Of course. Just like Maiden Queensryche (where in the hell is that y"
symbol?) hit their top 1988. But that's no reason to dismiss both bands now.


>
>When I first heard their first EP in 83, they reminded me a lot of
>Maiden. It's too bad Maiden couldn't lure Geoff Tate away after Bruce
>left because Queensryche is horrible now as is the curent Maiden.

Your opinion. I absolutely love Promised Land and kind of like Hear In The
Now Frontier. The next album (without Chris DeGarmo) will prove what the
current position of the 'Ryche is.


>
>As far as a better vocalist, Geoff Tate gets my vote but I don't think
>he compares to the total package Bruce offers in terms of stage
>presence, song-writing, etc.

I think that as lyricist Tate gets my vote too. And to the ppl who think
that Tate has a lesser range than Dickinson, they should listen to 'Silent
Lucidity' (first verse) vs. 'Blinded' (last 'scream'). Methinks there is
(was?) nothing wrong with Tate's range.
My vote goes to Jeffy.

(Of course both singers can't hold a candle to R.J. Dio. Now THAT is what i
call power!)

Cheers,

Flar.

Dan

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Dec 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/3/98
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Oh yes-- Tony Harnell of TNT is flat out awesome! I have to agree
that he is the best high-end vocalist I have ever heard.

On Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:47:12 -0800 (PST), lionh...@webtv.net
(Lionheart) wrote:

>
>>As far as a better vocalist, Geoff Tate >gets
>>my vote but I don't think he compares to
>>the total package Bruce offers in terms of
>>stage presence, song-writing, etc.
>

Tony Szablowski

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Dec 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/3/98
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Dan wrote in message <3664f8cf.6218141@news>...

>Is Geoff Tate a better vocalist than Dickinson? I've been a fan of
>Queensryche ever since 1983 up until Mindcrime (they couldn't top
>what they did up to that point so they only place to go was down).


Range and dynamics: Geoff.
Control: Geoff.
Power: Bruce.
Stage presence, persona, etc.: Bruce.

If you want to go strictly by professional singer qualities, not
anything else, that's Geoff.
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Regards,
Tony

Prisoner

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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I cannot believ that there are people comparing Geoff Tate with Bruce
Dickinson. Geoff not only sings like a girl, he also acts like a girl.
There are also people who wanted Geoff with maiden. We don't need a girl
to be the Maiden singer!! We need real heavy metal singers like Bruce
etc. that need to sweat and work to get out the high notes (Blaze is
also one of the 'working metal' catagorie. I have to admit that Bruce
solo is better then Maiden with Blaze (not saying that maiden with blaze
is bad: they're great since VXI also) after seeing Maiden in Rotterdam &
Bruce in Hardenberg.

Then my list of favorite singers:
1. Bruce Dickinson
2. Ian Gillan
3. Dio
4. Jon Oliva (Savatage: Gutter Ballet, Streets etc.)
5. Zak Stevens (Savatage: from The Edge of Torns etc.)

Somebody wrote:

> Dan wrote in message <3664f8cf.6218141@news>...
> >Is Geoff Tate a better vocalist than Dickinson? I've been a fan of
> >Queensryche ever since 1983 up until Mindcrime (they couldn't top
> what
> >they did up to that point so they only place to go was down).
>

> Of course. Just like Maiden Queensryche (where in the hell is that y"
> symbol?) hit their top 1988. But that's no reason to dismiss both
> bands now.
> >
> >When I first heard their first EP in 83, they reminded me a lot of
> >Maiden. It's too bad Maiden couldn't lure Geoff Tate away after
> Bruce
> >left because Queensryche is horrible now as is the curent Maiden.
>
> Your opinion. I absolutely love Promised Land and kind of like Hear In
> The
> Now Frontier. The next album (without Chris DeGarmo) will prove what
> the
> current position of the 'Ryche is.
> >

> >As far as a better vocalist, Geoff Tate gets my vote but I don't
> think
> >he compares to the total package Bruce offers in terms of stage
> >presence, song-writing, etc.
>

Tokus

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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>etc. that need to sweat and work to get out the high notes (Blaze is
>also one of the 'working metal' catagorie. I have to admit that Bruce
>solo is better then Maiden with Blaze (not saying that maiden with blaze
>is bad: they're great since VXI also) after seeing Maiden in Rotterdam &
>Bruce in Hardenberg.


If Bruce in Hardenberg was better then Maiden in Rotterdam then it must have
been really good, since I thought Maiden in Rotterdam was excellent. Too bad
I couldn't go to Hardenberg....

cu
Tonnie

Lionheart

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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Prisoner wrote:
>I cannot believ that there are people
>comparing Geoff Tate with Bruce
>Dickinson. Geoff not only sings like a >girl,
>he also acts like a girl.

Just because someone sings with a "high pitched" voice doesn't mean they
sing like a girl. I think it takes a lot of talent to be able to sing
like Geoff Tate. As far as acting like a girl, what makes you say that?
Have you seen him live?? There's nothing that he's done to make me
think that. It sounds to me like you just dislike him and are resorting
to name calling.

M Mouse

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Mar 7, 2021, 2:38:13 AM3/7/21
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Bump after 23 years!

Blueshirt

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Mar 7, 2021, 4:05:35 PM3/7/21
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On 07/03/2021 07:38, M Mouse wrote:
> On Saturday, 5 December 1998 at 08:00:00 UTC, Lionheart wrote:
>> Prisoner wrote:
>>> I cannot believ that there are people
>>> comparing Geoff Tate with Bruce
>>> Dickinson. Geoff not only sings like a >girl,
>>> he also acts like a girl.
>> Just because someone sings with a "high pitched" voice doesn't mean they
>> sing like a girl. I think it takes a lot of talent to be able to sing
>> like Geoff Tate. As far as acting like a girl, what makes you say that?
>> Have you seen him live?? There's nothing that he's done to make me
>> think that. It sounds to me like you just dislike him and are resorting
>> to name calling.
>
> Bump after 23 years!

The answer is still the same; Bruce Dickinson cannot be compared to such
a wimpy singer like Geoff Tate.




Michael Carothers

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Aug 29, 2021, 9:20:49 PM8/29/21
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Tate has such a better trained voice
He trained in opera when he was young and with the Maestro
He can go low to mid to high no problem . The end

Scall5

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Sep 7, 2021, 9:33:03 PM9/7/21
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Too bad his former and current band members DON'T like him as person.
That means a lot.
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Blueshirt

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Sep 8, 2021, 2:44:36 AM9/8/21
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I still prefer Bruce as a singer.

Scall5

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Sep 12, 2021, 12:40:27 PM9/12/21
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I do too.
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