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Jarl Sigurd

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Nov 17, 2001, 12:50:28 PM11/17/01
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Is it just me or does anyone else get these two guys confused.
I know one played guitar Metallica, the other played guitar in
Nirvana? But which is which? While we are at it, what is
the difference between Nirvana and Metallica anyway?
I can't see any difference between these two alternative
grunge bands aside from the fact that the guys in Nirvana had
longer hair?

Jarl Sigurd

to listen to a guitarist who dares fuse black metal with JAZZ,
visit: http://www.ampcast.com/search/band.php?id=9098


THE BROWNS

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Nov 17, 2001, 2:35:36 PM11/17/01
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Jeez, you dumbass you don't even know the guys name. I also won't tell you
which name you fubar'ed, since you have been told before and are still too
stupid to know. Go troll else where, and BTW *PLONK!*


infoghost

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Nov 17, 2001, 7:34:45 PM11/17/01
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You forgot to mention "talent" also...

ig

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:12:16 +1100, Al. <alter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <dBxJ7.4203$qb4....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>,
>jarls...@geocities.com attempts to make a LAME recovery from an
>earlier, obvious STUFFUP!!!...


>> Is it just me or does anyone else get these two guys confused.
>> I know one played guitar Metallica, the other played guitar in
>> Nirvana? But which is which? While we are at it, what is
>> the difference between Nirvana and Metallica anyway?
>> I can't see any difference between these two alternative
>> grunge bands aside from the fact that the guys in Nirvana had
>> longer hair?
>

>Well it would appear it's just you Jarl.
>BTW, nice dig at Metallica there Jarl, another band who have had
>something you'll never have (success), and have sold millions of albums
>worldwide.

Stormtrooper

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Nov 18, 2001, 5:28:32 AM11/18/01
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I dont think Kurt could handle that three chord shit!!
seriously though.... the only reason Cobain is considered a guitar god is
because he is dead, if he was still alive. he, and the same goes for
Nirvana, wouldn't be considered 'legendary' at all
they are, at best, ordinary. Zakk Wylde had it correct, they were Shitvana
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Michael Collins

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Nov 18, 2001, 11:41:00 AM11/18/01
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Stormtrooper said...

> I dont think Kurt could handle that three chord shit!!
> seriously though.... the only reason Cobain is considered a guitar god is
> because he is dead, if he was still alive. he, and the same goes for
> Nirvana, wouldn't be considered 'legendary' at all
> they are, at best, ordinary. Zakk Wylde had it correct, they were Shitvana
> Jarl Sigurd <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
> news:dBxJ7.4203$qb4....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>

Get with the program. Everybody knows that Cobain was no virtuoso on
guitar. But he was a good songwriter. That's why people like to listen to
him while very few know who Zak is anymore.

--
Mike C.

Jarl Sigurd

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Nov 18, 2001, 12:58:33 PM11/18/01
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Michael Collins wrote

>Get with the program. Everybody knows that Cobain was no virtuoso on
>guitar. But he was a good songwriter. That's why people like to listen to
>him while very few know who Zak is anymore.

Kirk Cobain was a one hit wonder. How many great songs did he
write besides his one big hit. Face it, Kirk Cobain was no Steve
Harris!

Jarl Sigurd

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Jarl Sigurd

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Nov 18, 2001, 1:12:25 PM11/18/01
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Brendan Thompson wrote
>
> Metallica aren't
>'grunge', they're 'metal'.

Metallica are Metal? Sheesh you could have fooled me.
Next thing you'll be telling me that Slipnot is metal. Now
I realize that back in the 80's there was a band called
Metallica that played metal, but that was a different
band altogether. The band that currently called
"Metallica" is metal in name only, sort of like when
Queen recorded an album called Jazz which wasn't.

Jarl Sigurd

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Mark Keith

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Nov 18, 2001, 3:37:10 PM11/18/01
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"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message news:<dBxJ7.4203$qb4....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
> Is it just me or does anyone else get these two guys confused.
> I know one played guitar Metallica, the other played guitar in
> Nirvana? But which is which? While we are at it, what is
> the difference between Nirvana and Metallica anyway?
> I can't see any difference between these two alternative
> grunge bands aside from the fact that the guys in Nirvana had
> longer hair?
>
> Jarl Sigurd

It's just you. MK

Mark Keith

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Nov 18, 2001, 6:18:57 PM11/18/01
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"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message news:<wTSJ7.5202$qb4....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...

> Michael Collins wrote
>
> >Get with the program. Everybody knows that Cobain was no virtuoso on
> >guitar. But he was a good songwriter. That's why people like to listen to
> >him while very few know who Zak is anymore.
>
> Kirk Cobain was a one hit wonder. How many great songs did he
> write besides his one big hit. Face it, Kirk Cobain was no Steve
> Harris!
>
> Jarl Sigurd

Whatever you are smoking today is not helping. I've never even heard
of Steve Harris. Whats his big claim to non-fame? Kirk Cobain might
not have been the slickest geetar boy, but he could write fairly
decent songs in a quirky Lennonish sort of way. Way better than Jarl.
As far as I know, you are still a no hit wonder, or have I missed
something here? Internet offerings on wank.com , midicast, etc, don't
count.... He'd still be big if he was still around. Way bigger than
Jarl. Compared to some people I've heard, he was a virtuoso on geetar.
I'll spare you the agony of guessing who these people may be. MK

THE BROWNS

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Nov 18, 2001, 6:20:12 PM11/18/01
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Its kurt

THE BROWNS

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Nov 18, 2001, 6:26:19 PM11/18/01
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For the umpteenth time its Kurt. I never listen to him, but I have this odd
thing where I hate people fucking up.

Michael Collins

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Nov 18, 2001, 7:02:26 PM11/18/01
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Mark Keith said...

> Whatever you are smoking today is not helping. I've never even heard
> of Steve Harris. Whats his big claim to non-fame? Kirk Cobain might
> not have been the slickest geetar boy, but he could write fairly
> decent songs in a quirky Lennonish sort of way. Way better than Jarl.
> As far as I know, you are still a no hit wonder, or have I missed
> something here? Internet offerings on wank.com , midicast, etc, don't
> count.... He'd still be big if he was still around. Way bigger than
> Jarl. Compared to some people I've heard, he was a virtuoso on geetar.
> I'll spare you the agony of guessing who these people may be. MK
>

Who is Steve Harris? WHO IS STEVE HARRIS?!?! Kids these days. Since you
really don't know, Steve Harris was the bass player and genius behind
Iron Maiden.

--
Mike C.

Mark Keith

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Nov 19, 2001, 12:51:28 AM11/19/01
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"THE BROWNS" <arm...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<vsXJ7.3376$Nx2.87...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>...

> For the umpteenth time its Kurt. I never listen to him, but I have this odd
> thing where I hate people fucking up.

Yep, it's starting to rub off on me...scary... MK

Mark Keith

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Nov 19, 2001, 12:54:38 AM11/19/01
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Michael Collins <mcol...@locl.net> wrote in message
> >
>
> Who is Steve Harris? WHO IS STEVE HARRIS?!?! Kids these days. Since you
> really don't know, Steve Harris was the bass player and genius behind
> Iron Maiden.

That explains it. I don't listen to iron maiden. Thats kids music... MK

Bryan Griffin

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Nov 19, 2001, 2:11:31 AM11/19/01
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It's the same Metallica, but they are more radio-friendly. They went
ALTERNATIVE (forgive me for that). Slipknot is your modern metal. I don't
listen to them. Someone told me they are a cross between speed and thrash
metal. I like the N'Sync wisecrack, though.

K.I.T.

Griffinator

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MetalordCS83

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Nov 19, 2001, 2:29:56 AM11/19/01
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<Kirk Cobain was a one hit wonder. How many great songs did he write besides
his one big hit. Face it, Kirk Cobain was no Steve Harris!<

ok first of all...if you get the name "Kurt" wrong one more time I swear I'll
rip your throat out.Second of all.... who the hell cares about having hits?Your
in a metal news group!Metal and "hits" do not go together!It just doesnt happen
anymore.Jarl,get back to playing your guitar and start writing GOOD music.You
sit here and post on this NG all damn day.No wonder your songs suck.How you
even compair a bassist to a guitarist,I'll never know unless you meant strictly
bassed on actual song writing itself and lyrics.Even then,why Steve Harris?Does
he have anything at all to do with grunge music?NO!Not a damn thing!The only
reason you waste our time with your postings is so you can make your commisions
from people DLing your lame ass songs.Get a life so I can get on with mine and
so I dont have to keep bitching at your pathetic ass.I almost said your washed
up then realized you never had talent to begin with!

P.S.-Jarl said "How many great songs did he write besides his one big
hit."....I cant stand the song Smells Like Teen Spirit but god damn it,that
band was great and so are most of their other songs aside from that one "big
hit".If not for Nirvana we'd still be listening to Poison and all the other
glam rock bands.*shudders*

Michael Collins

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Nov 19, 2001, 6:49:38 AM11/19/01
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Mark Keith said...

> That explains it. I don't listen to iron maiden. Thats kids music... MK
>

That's not entirely true. They were much more cerebral than Judas Priest
or Def Leppard for example. I would say that the sophistication of thier
lyrics compared favorably to Rush, although they were even more
bombastic, if that is possible. The music was almost always up tempo
heavy metal, which is OK if it is done correctly. They just didn't seem
to have the ability to slow down like Rush or Ozzy did, which may be why
they fizzled out faster than some of their contemporaries.

--
Mike C.

KlAtH

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Nov 19, 2001, 1:14:42 PM11/19/01
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"Bryan Griffin" <griffi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> It's the same Metallica, but they are more radio-friendly. They went
> ALTERNATIVE (forgive me for that). Slipknot is your modern metal. I
don't
> listen to them. Someone told me they are a cross between speed and thrash
> metal. I like the N'Sync wisecrack, though.

Slipknot are nu metal. Pure crap. (old) Metallica is trash metal.
--
Why, Am I dying?
Kill, have no fear
Lie, live off lying
Hell, Hell is here


KlAtH

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"Mark Keith" <nm...@wt.net> wrote in message
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> "Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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> > Michael Collins wrote
> >
> > >Get with the program. Everybody knows that Cobain was no virtuoso on
> > >guitar. But he was a good songwriter. That's why people like to listen
to
> > >him while very few know who Zak is anymore.
> >
> > Kirk Cobain was a one hit wonder. How many great songs did he
> > write besides his one big hit. Face it, Kirk Cobain was no Steve
> > Harris!
> >
> > Jarl Sigurd

One hit? ONE HIT? Have you ever heard for Lithium, Come as you are,
Heart-Shaped Box, In Bloom, Sliver? No? SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Kurt Cobain
was better songwritter than you will ever be. You don`t even know how many
beautiful songs he had written.
Oh yeah. If Nirvana sux, and Kurt Cobain couldn`t write songs, why are
people looking for new Nirvana?

piddie

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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:35:36 GMT, "THE BROWNS" <arm...@swbell.net>
wrote:

>Jeez, you dumbass you don't even know the guys name. I also won't tell you
>which name you fubar'ed, since you have been told before and are still too
>stupid to know. Go troll else where, and BTW *PLONK!*

I think you be the dumbass, foo

YHBT

THE BROWNS

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Nov 19, 2001, 8:53:50 PM11/19/01
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He fucked up, after he fucked up before, he is too stupid to pull a prank or
try to get people mad at him (it just happens that he does, and is too
stupid to stop). Since you have done nothing constructive, *PLONK!* you go!

bluelouboyle

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Jarl Sigurd is Metal?
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Mark Keith

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Michael Collins <mcol...@locl.net> wrote in message news:<8482753A684D2473.B031EB42...@lp.airnews.net>...

> Mark Keith said...
>
> > That explains it. I don't listen to iron maiden. Thats kids music... MK
> >
>
> That's not entirely true. They were much more cerebral than Judas Priest
> or Def Leppard for example.

That wouldn't be hard to do...I didn't really care for either one too
awful much. Although "living after midnight" did seem to be required
wanking material back in those days.

I would say that the sophistication of thier
> lyrics compared favorably to Rush, although they were even more
> bombastic, if that is possible. The music was almost always up tempo
> heavy metal, which is OK if it is done correctly. They just didn't seem
> to have the ability to slow down like Rush or Ozzy did, which may be why
> they fizzled out faster than some of their contemporaries.

I don't know. They were probably ok, but they didn't have much to set
them apart from all the rest of the "heathern headbanger" rockers for
lack of a better description. I just never did care for much of the
newer "headbanger" stuff. I'm a semi old fart, and to me, that stuff
does sound like kids music much like grunge and hip hop sounds like
kids music to the previous "headbang" generation.
I remeber when headbanger shred rock first became popular. I'd go to
any music store, and you hear lines of 13 year olds all trying to be
the next shred metal king, and they all sounded just alike. Like a
sears chainsaw on steriods. I hated the sound of that stuff. I'd way
rather listen to Ozzy, or Rush than the head bang shred stuff any day.
Ozzy always rocks and has since Sabbath, and always has good geetar
players. Rush was kick ass in the earlier days. 2112 was a classic.
But their newer stuff got too, hummm, dunno, modern... or something.
Just didn't rock like the old stuff. I like rock n roll. That
headbanger stuff may rock, but it doesn't roll very well. It's all
what you were bred on I guess. I'm a creature of 60-70-80's rock for
the most part. I mainly sprouted in the 70's. Zep, montrose, James
gang, sabbath, Tull, J.Winter, ZZ, etc,etc,...Iron Maiden was a young
mans music to me that came much later....ha ha...Kind like KISS.
To me and my generation, KISS sucked, but were ok to the then younger
group. Disco? Get a rope... MK

Michael Collins

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Nov 20, 2001, 8:28:52 AM11/20/01
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Mark Keith said...

>
> I don't know. They were probably ok, but they didn't have much to set
> them apart from all the rest of the "heathern headbanger" rockers for
> lack of a better description. I just never did care for much of the
> newer "headbanger" stuff. I'm a semi old fart, and to me, that stuff
> does sound like kids music much like grunge and hip hop sounds like
> kids music to the previous "headbang" generation.
> I remeber when headbanger shred rock first became popular. I'd go to
> any music store, and you hear lines of 13 year olds all trying to be
> the next shred metal king, and they all sounded just alike. Like a
> sears chainsaw on steriods. I hated the sound of that stuff. I'd way
> rather listen to Ozzy, or Rush than the head bang shred stuff any day.
> Ozzy always rocks and has since Sabbath, and always has good geetar
> players. Rush was kick ass in the earlier days. 2112 was a classic.
> But their newer stuff got too, hummm, dunno, modern... or something.
> Just didn't rock like the old stuff. I like rock n roll. That
> headbanger stuff may rock, but it doesn't roll very well. It's all
> what you were bred on I guess. I'm a creature of 60-70-80's rock for
> the most part. I mainly sprouted in the 70's. Zep, montrose, James
> gang, sabbath, Tull, J.Winter, ZZ, etc,etc,...Iron Maiden was a young
> mans music to me that came much later....ha ha...Kind like KISS.
> To me and my generation, KISS sucked, but were ok to the then younger
> group. Disco? Get a rope... MK
>

I think their early stuff has stood the test of time pretty well. I was
never much of a fan of theirs, but their Maiden Japan live EP is still
worth a listen once in a while. After that, it is all downhill IMO. Their
albums become a blur of incrasingly over-produced arena heavy metal. I
never liked Bruce Dickinson's falsetto singing, but their original singer
Paul Di'Anno sounds sort of like the singer from Nazareth, much more down
to earth.

--
Mike C.

Gay Christ Records

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Nov 20, 2001, 1:57:59 PM11/20/01
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Its all rock n roll until you get to the underground

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griffi...@worldnet.att.net says...

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Nov 25, 2001, 2:31:28 PM11/25/01
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SLIPKNOT IS POWER FUCK IT ALL!!!!!!!!!

http://www.fuckitall.fr.st


THE BROWNS

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Nov 25, 2001, 2:53:28 PM11/25/01
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Can I do just the good lookin ladies?
> FUCK IT ALL!!!!!!!!!


The Watchman

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Dec 1, 2001, 9:43:39 AM12/1/01
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Even if their music wasn't so lame and sleep-inducing. The fact they have
all those
braindead fans of your kind would make me stay away from the band.
And what is that thing you want to "fuck all" ?

--
The Watchman

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Nothing's forever so count your days
Nothing is final and no one is real
Pray for tomorrow and find you're empty still" - Nevermore

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Maryann Khan

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"LET THE MIGHTY GODS OF METAL REIGN FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!" "TRUE METAL WILL
NEVER DIE!!!!!!!"
"There's no alternitive in the music that we play,
METAL is the lifestyle we live everyday...
We are born with a gift, We are different from the rest, We are the
chosen few, We are the very best...."CAUSE WE ARE METAL!!!!!!!!!"
Premonition-"We are Metal."

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"LET THE GODS OF METAL REIGN FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!" "TRUE METAL WILL NEVER
DIE!"

"There's no alternitive in the music that we play, METAL is the lifestyle we
live everyday...We are born with a gift, We are different from the rest, We

are the chosen few, We are the very best....'CAUSE WE ARE METAL!!!"
Premonition-"We are Metal."
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On Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:50:28 PM UTC-5, Jarl Sigurd wrote:
> Is it just me or does anyone else get these two guys confused.
> I know one played guitar Metallica, the other played guitar in
> Nirvana? But which is which? While we are at it, what is
> the difference between Nirvana and Metallica anyway?
> I can't see any difference between these two alternative
> grunge bands aside from the fact that the guys in Nirvana had
> longer hair?
>
> Jarl Sigurd
>
> to listen to a guitarist who dares fuse black metal with JAZZ,
> visit: http://www.ampcast.com/search/band.php?id=9098

You really are a fucked up dumb ass! You must be the dumbest moron on the planet!
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