George "Corpse Grinder" Fisher vs. Chris Barnes
Gus cnblcrpse Carrillo
Hey, i just got back from watching Cannibal Corpse play. This was the
first time i had ever see 'em play and ive never heard Fishers vocals
before. Several posts in this group led me to believe that Fisher was
inferior to Barnes's vocals which I assumed to be true because IMHO Barnes
is one of the best death vocalists out there. I was expecting to be
disappointed tonight, and thoughtt that the old CC material was gonna sound
like complete shit. Supprisingly though, Fisher put on a hell of a
performance, even diving into the crowd at one point. His vocals werent as
low as Barnes, but he did sing the old shit very well. Anyways, what im
asking is for those people out there that have seen both these dudes play
with CC live, i want to know what you think of Fisher on stage.
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GoreGrind
Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
Yog Sothoth
GoreGrind (gore...@aol.com) wrote:
: Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
yeah, but... CORPSIE IS SO CUTE!
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goden
ysot...@wsia.csi.cuny.edu (Yog Sothoth) wrote:
>GoreGrind (gore...@aol.com) wrote:
>: Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
>: and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
>: the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
>: before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
>: your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
>: every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
>: encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
>: interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
> yeah, but... CORPSIE IS SO CUTE!
Unfortunately, I've never seen the Barnes incarnation of CC, but I saw
them with Fischer and it didn't impress me too much. I'd like to see
Barnes. He seemed to have had a good stage presence...
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I saw them three times with Barnes, and he was great at every show. He
has a great stage presence. I also met him twice, and he was always a
really cool guy. Too bad he's in Six Feet Under now.
Jay
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writes:
Trendend
Unfortunately I never saw CC w/ Chris either. I did see them last year w/
George, and though I can't say it was bad, I can say that I hung out w/
George and Rob Barrett in the beer garden after they played (they were on
the Anthrax tour at the time), and they were BOTH really cool. George
hung out, drank beer, and bullshitted w/ any fan who wanted to talk. Me
and a friend of mine ended up hanging out w/ Rob for the rest of the
night...if anybody has never heard it, he was on the first Solstice album
w/ Alex Marquez (ex-Malevolent, ex-Ressurection). He told me to check it
out, cuz he played guitar and did the vox too. It is kind of old school
death metal, but anyone who can find it should check it out, if anything,
just to hear Marquez go off!!! Anyone else agree that aside from Gene
Hoglan, Sean Reinert, and maybe Pete Sandoval, he is one of the best death
metal drummers?
chris
Gus cnblcrpse Carrillo
In article <19970205001...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
gore...@aol.com (GoreGrind) wrote:
> Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
> and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
> the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
> before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
> your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
> every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
> encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
> interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
they didnt do an encore....
goden
tren...@aol.com (Trendend) wrote:
>if anybody has never heard it, he was on the first Solstice album
>w/ Alex Marquez (ex-Malevolent, ex-Ressurection). He told me to check it
>out, cuz he played guitar and did the vox too. It is kind of old school
>death metal, but anyone who can find it should check it out, if anything,
>just to hear Marquez go off!!! Anyone else agree that aside from Gene
>Hoglan, Sean Reinert, and maybe Pete Sandoval, he is one of the best death
>metal drummers?
Marquez played drums on the last Demolition Hammer album. And, yes,
he is fucking awesome...
Trendend
>Marquez played drums on the last Demolition Hammer album. And, yes,
>he is fucking awesome...
I think that is the only album w/ him on it I don't have. I have
heard it isn't that good, so I haven't really looked for it. When I was
talking to Rob Barrett, he told me he is in some hardcore band called
Anger now....what a waste of talent :(
chris
goden
tren...@aol.com (Trendend) wrote:
Shit. Definitely get "Time Bomb" from Demolition Hammer! It's their
best, imo. It fucking rages...
>
>chris
SHAWN TOORYANI
I saw their show last night and the night before that (in Berkeley, CA)
and sounded HEAVY as fuck! He staged dove a couple of times and sang all
the previous songs as heavy as Chris (although Chris' high pitch screams
is something exceptional).
My final opinion is that he is THE best replacement for Chris and has a
very cool attitude too.
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In a previous article, gore...@aol.com (GoreGrind) says:
>Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
>and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
>the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
>before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
>your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
>every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
>encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
>interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
I think you're just pissed he didn't shake your hand. After all, if you
thought they were shit, why did you go to shake his hand in the first
place??? Uh huh....
cory
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GoreGrind wrote:
>
> Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
> and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
> the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
> before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
> your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
> every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
> encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
> interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
Every one here is saying shit about Corpsegrinder but when I saw
him he was cool said hi, and put on a good show. Corpse are happier with
him anyway.
Heretic
> >and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
> >the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
> >before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
> >your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
> >every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
> >encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
> >interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
>
> thought they were shit, why did you go to shake his hand in the first
> place??? Uh huh....
>
> cory
> --
Corpsegrinder rules. Why does everyone rant and rave over Chris Barnes
anyway? He totally sucks. I liked his sick lyrics but all he could do
was write 5 lines and repeat them over and over, plus the rhythm of his
vocals wasn't in synch with the rhythm of the guitars. And that high
pitched voice of his (on the Bleeding) sucked! Chris could never
enunciate words as quick as George--he could never do vocals like on
"Puncture Wound Massacre." Look at where Chris is now--he's with a slow,
drab band (Six Feet Under) where his sad vox belongs. A deep voice isn't
everything.
Adam Wiggins
>>Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
>>and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC on
>>the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
>>before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
>>your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
>>every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL do
>>encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
>>interesting is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
Indeed. I mostly went to the show to see Oppressor and Immolation, but I
didn't think Corpse put on a bad show. My only two complaints were the
encore, as you mentioned...this is a holdover from more popular areas of
metal/rock-n-roll that I think death metal can do without. I was glad to
see that no one was chanting or anything, just waiting patiently for them
to come out (as we knew they would). Actually, some guy got impatient and
shouted, "Hey you fuckers, we know you're going to play Hammer Smashed
Face, so just get out here and do it already." I couldn't help but to
agree. The second thing was pretty minor but I found it amusing
nonetheless: at some point someone through a set of keys up on the stage.
Corpsegrinder picked 'em up and yelled, "If any of you fuckers throw
anything at me I'll fucking kill you!" This was met with a murmur of
discontent in the crowd...at any rate the chick that threw them (or at
least, who they belonged to) showed up at the edge of the stage looking
embarrassed, and I guess he gave them back because he felt silly for
threatening a 16-year old girl who was probably half his weight...
Gus cnblcrpse Carrillo
In article <19970206024...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
gore...@aol.com (GoreGrind) wrote:
> > Lemme first off say that after the show, I went to shake George's hand,
> > and he turned from me and mumbled and left. Now, the performance of CC
> on
> > the night I saw them was vastly inferior to any time I had seen them
> > before, all the songs were slowed noticeably down, and as I can see from
> > your post, Mr. Fisher dives into the crowd at probably the same time in
> > every set, making it unspontaneous and boring. Also, the need to STILL
> do
> > encores, even when no one is chanting the name, or even looking remotely
> > interested is the dumbest thing a band can do nowadays. That's all.
>
> >they didnt do an encore....
>
> Yes they did...both nights in Berkeley anyway. And I've heard from
> everyone else who's seen them they did the same two songs as the encore
> each night. They didn't even change the set at all when they played the
> second night.
well tthey didn't do an encore in L. A. then.....they probably ran out of
time cause they ended the gig at 1am...
GoreGrind
I saw them both nights, and was less than impressed with Corpsegrinder's
vocals. He was acting really sly when he was around any woman in the back
there, but he wouldn't even talk to some people because he was too busy
being a fucking jerk. That whole jock persona doesn't do it for me, and
neither does slowing down all the songs.
GoreGrind
GoreGrind
>I think you're just pissed he didn't shake your hand. After all, if you
>thought they were shit, why did you go to shake his hand in the first
>place??? Uh huh....
Well, it's incredibly rude, first off. And I dig the first two CC albums,
I was just talking to everyone and shaking everyone's hand, it's not a big
deal until someone is a dick about it. And tho' I shouldn't mention it, it
wasn't just the fans that thought he was a dick...
BRAD
- Ive seen them with Chris and George, and with all due respect to George, Chris did play live better. He has a much more powerful stage presence, and can totally command the crowd. Although George doesnt have quite the same aggression, he is definately the best replacement. The other positive aspect, is that the rest of the band is now much more prominent. Instead of watching/listening to Chris, your watching Cannibal Corpse...
SHAWN TOORYANI
Didn't this incident happend two nights ago in Berkely Square in CA?
I was there too! I patiently waited for them to come out and play,
although IMMOLATION is among my favorites (BTW, what's with the lead
guitar player 'Robert Vigna'? Can't he just fucking stand still and play
?).
Peace!
Alex Shterenberg
Heretic wrote:
>
>
> Corpsegrinder rules. Why does everyone rant and rave over Chris Barnes
> anyway? He totally sucks. I liked his sick lyrics but all he could do
> was write 5 lines and repeat them over and over, plus the rhythm of his
> vocals wasn't in synch with the rhythm of the guitars. And that high
> pitched voice of his (on the Bleeding) sucked! Chris could never
> enunciate words as quick as George--he could never do vocals like on
> "Puncture Wound Massacre." Look at where Chris is now--he's with a slow,
> drab band (Six Feet Under) where his sad vox belongs. A deep voice isn't
> everything.
live... and
they both were very good. I also saw "new" CC this Sunday in LA... and
it wasn't all that great.
Corpsegrinder has a good voice but I find it flat and lacking this
guttural aspect.. that always made
Barnes sound like the most demented human being!!! And he didn't really
feel all that confident onstage,
even though he was trying very hard.
Overall, I have to admit that Chris Barnes was a very important part of
CC, and I doubt that they will
ever be able to recover from this loss.
BTW, why does all of you seem to like Immolation so much? I find them
extremely boring and uninspired.
Plus, the dude's voice is the most annoying thing in the world!
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> nonetheless: at some point someone through a set of keys up on the stage.
> Corpsegrinder picked 'em up and yelled, "If any of you fuckers throw
> anything at me I'll fucking kill you!" This was met with a murmur of
Thats the whole point, George is a totally cool dude, but being a singer
for CC he has to deal with a lot of morons and when you tour for a long
time, people throwing and saying shit to you must get pretty fucking old,
and since he's in a position of power and most people have some sort of
"expectation" from him, anything he says or does is judged by any dork and
posted on here whining about how he didnt shake their hand.. I bet that
same dude was shouting shit during the show or managed to piss off george
in some other way.. Anyway show respect to the musicians and you will
receive the same courtesy back.
Cory Stevenson
I totally agree with that. How would you like to have things thrown at
you while you were trying to do your job?!?!
cory
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Heretic
Well, I'll admit that "Tomb of the Mutilated" is the only thing Chris
Barnes has done that I liked. His vocals are pretty cool on that album,
and the lyrics are less repetitive. As far as Immolation goes, I thought
"Here in After" was boring but "Dawn of Possession" kicks fucking ass!
Also, Ross Dolan has one of the best death metal vocals that I've heard.
Heretic
Alex Shterenberg
Soul Survivor wrote:
>
> > nonetheless: at some point someone through a set of keys up on the stage.
> > Corpsegrinder picked 'em up and yelled, "If any of you fuckers throw
> > anything at me I'll fucking kill you!" This was met with a murmur of
>
> Thats the whole point, George is a totally cool dude, but being a singer
> for CC he has to deal with a lot of morons and when you tour for a long
> time, people throwing and saying shit to you must get pretty fucking old,
> and since he's in a position of power and most people have some sort of
> "expectation" from him, anything he says or does is judged by any dork and
> posted on here whining about how he didnt shake their hand.. I bet that
> same dude was shouting shit during the show or managed to piss off george
> in some other way.. Anyway show respect to the musicians and you will
> receive the same courtesy back.
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Oh yeah? Who cares what you think! Stop babbling about shit!
Chris Barnes
Heretic
krum...@iwwn.com.na wrote:
>
> Oh yeah? Who cares what you think! Stop babbling about shit!
>
> Chris Barnes
Yep--this sounds about the intelligence of Chris Barnes.
Heretic
DEB106
In response to your interesting debate, I have also seen both bands and
have to say that the best thing Cannibal ever did was to loose Barnes.
George has an excellent stage presence and more of a range then Chris
Barnes ever will. I know this will probably offend the Cannibal Heads but
I never even liked them until I heard Vile. I dont know how you can say
that Cannibal Corpse is suffering a monumental loss - what!! Youve got to
be kidding.Just listen to a second of your bleesed "Bleeding" album then
put on Vile, you'll see. Anyway enough. I dont even know if Six Feet Under
is worth taking up space, so all I could say that is substantial is that
fuckin fat as hell guitar sound that that West from Obituary has and
always did. Another thing concerning Immolation, I wallow in their
intense,brutal monotony. Ive heard similar opinions to yours about
Immo.Ive given up trying to change thier minds. It definitly doesnt bore
me and the only other person who likes them as much as I do happens to be
female. I dont know, maybe its a woman thing. Ironically, Iam going to a
show this weekend at CBGB's with both Cannibal Corpse and Immolation. I'll
let you know how it goes
Vanessa
Heretic
DEB106 wrote:
>
> In response to your interesting debate, I have also seen both bands and
> have to say that the best thing Cannibal ever did was to loose Barnes.
> George has an excellent stage presence and more of a range then Chris
> Barnes ever will. I know this will probably offend the Cannibal Heads but
> I never even liked them until I heard Vile. I dont know how you can say
> that Cannibal Corpse is suffering a monumental loss - what!! Youve got to
> be kidding.Just listen to a second of your bleesed "Bleeding" album then
> put on Vile, you'll see.
Yes- The Bleeding sucks. Vile rules. Plain and simple.
Heretic
Chris
Now I've heard that Vile sucks, but I got Metalmeister, which has
Mummified in Barbed wire on it, and it's a cool song. Metalmeister is
that album that has songs from a bunch of Metal Blade bands. I've got to
get vile before i can judge George. I also think The bleeding is cool,
but after I got Six Feet Under's "Haunted", I listened to that and liked
that a lot better than the bleeding. I think Barnes is doing a lot
better with 6 ft. under than Corpse. What do you all think of 6 ft.
under?
Gregory Nalbandian
Chris (locu...@earthlink.net) wrote:
THANK GOODNESS I DECIDED TO CHECK UP ON THE 'OL DM NEWSGROUP TODAY!!!!
I need to set you all straight.
First off, Six-Feet-Under sucks big, syphilis infected donkey dick. Allen
West hasn't played descent guitar since Slowly We Rot and all the their
songs are monotonous. However, I admit that if I am not in the mood to
actually LISTEN to music, Haunted is something worth playing for a
little background "noise" or maybe just to hear Chris Barnes' beautiful
deep belches. Yes, I actually like Barnes' singing style and feel that he
is one of the best DM vocalists ever.
Secondly, The Bleeding is a great album. Yeah, some say it has "pop" song
structures due to a very noticeable dominant riff but the songs are still
catchy and brutal. Chris' lyrics are sick and definitely missed in Vile,
which appears to be a poor mimicry of Barnes' style.
Don't get me wrong though, The Corpsegrinder is a great vocalist.
Heretic
Gregory Nalbandian wrote:
> THANK GOODNESS I DECIDED TO CHECK UP ON THE 'OL DM NEWSGROUP TODAY!!!!
>
> I need to set you all straight.
>
> First off, Six-Feet-Under sucks big, syphilis infected donkey dick.
Yeah, I agree here. The most boring death metal I've ever heard.
Allen
> West hasn't played descent guitar since Slowly We Rot
and don't forget The End Complete- I think it's West's finest work.
> and all the their
> songs are monotonous. However, I admit that if I am not in the mood to
> actually LISTEN to music, Haunted is something worth playing for a
> little background "noise" or maybe just to hear Chris Barnes' beautiful
> deep belches. Yes, I actually like Barnes' singing style and feel that he
> is one of the best DM vocalists ever.
He's a good vocalist, and he comes up with pretty cool sick lyrics, but
his writing and arrangements suck.
>
> Secondly, The Bleeding is a great album. Yeah, some say it has "pop" song
> structures due to a very noticeable dominant riff but the songs are still
> catchy and brutal. Chris' lyrics are sick and definitely missed in Vile,
> which appears to be a poor mimicry of Barnes' style.
What, Orgasm Through Torture and Disfigured weren't sick enough for you?
Chris Barnes was pretty lazy when it came to lyrics. He'd write twelve
lines and repeat them again and again through the song.
Heretic
fabricio terribile
Chris wrote:
>
> Heretic wrote:
> >
> > DEB106 wrote:
> > >
> > > In response to your interesting debate, I have also seen both bands and
> > > have to say that the best thing Cannibal ever did was to loose Barnes.
> > > George has an excellent stage presence and more of a range then Chris
> > > Barnes ever will. I know this will probably offend the Cannibal Heads but
> > > I never even liked them until I heard Vile. I dont know how you can say
> > > that Cannibal Corpse is suffering a monumental loss - what!! Youve got to
> > > be kidding.Just listen to a second of your bleesed "Bleeding" album then
> > > put on Vile, you'll see.
> >
> > Yes- The Bleeding sucks. Vile rules. Plain and simple.
> >
> > Heretic
>
> Now I've heard that Vile sucks, but I got Metalmeister, which has
> Mummified in Barbed wire on it, and it's a cool song. Metalmeister is
> that album that has songs from a bunch of Metal Blade bands. I've got to
> get vile before i can judge George. I also think The bleeding is cool,
> but after I got Six Feet Under's "Haunted", I listened to that and liked
> that a lot better than the bleeding. I think Barnes is doing a lot
> better with 6 ft. under than Corpse. What do you all think of 6 ft.
CHRIS BARNES MAKE THE BEST LYRICS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
AND THE MOST "GUTURAL" VOCAL ON THE EARTH!!!
C.BARNES RULES!!!
CORPSEGRINDER IS SUCKS!!!
TOMB OF THE MUTILATED IS THE BEST ALBUM OF CANNIBAL CORPSE!
I CUM BLOOD!
Heretic
fabricio terribile wrote:
> CHRIS BARNES MAKE THE BEST LYRICS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
> AND THE MOST "GUTURAL" VOCAL ON THE EARTH!!!
> C.BARNES RULES!!!
> CORPSEGRINDER IS SUCKS!!!
> TOMB OF THE MUTILATED IS THE BEST ALBUM OF CANNIBAL CORPSE!
>
> I CUM BLOOD!
What an idiot. BTW, with all the hype about Chris Barnes's lyrics, I'd
just like to say that Chris's lyrics are shitty, boring, and kid's stuff
compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
Heretic
goden
Heretic <???@!!.com> wrote:
>BTW, with all the hype about Chris Barnes's lyrics, I'd
>just like to say that Chris's lyrics are shitty, boring, and kid's stuff
>compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
At I can stomach Chris's vox...Broken Hope's vocals are so boring live
it seemed almost ambient...my friend was falling asleep...
True, Chris's lyrics weren't that great, although they were best on
'The Bleeding' (ie "Stripped Raped and Strangled" and "The Bleeding").
The lyrics on the latest Cannibal are really lame and they're not even
as sick as Chris's lyrics...
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Gregory Nalbandian
Heretic (???@!!.com) wrote:
: fabricio terribile wrote:
:
: > CHRIS BARNES MAKE THE BEST LYRICS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
: > AND THE MOST "GUTURAL" VOCAL ON THE EARTH!!!
: > C.BARNES RULES!!!
: > CORPSEGRINDER IS SUCKS!!!
: > TOMB OF THE MUTILATED IS THE BEST ALBUM OF CANNIBAL CORPSE!
: >
: > I CUM BLOOD!
:
: compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
: Heretic
Yeah, I'd agree that Broken Hope's lyrics on "Bowels..." are much more
entertaining and even funny at times. Only problem is, BROKEN HOPE SUCKS!
goden
ez06...@boris.ucdavis.edu (Gregory Nalbandian) wrote:
>Heretic (???@!!.com) wrote:
>: fabricio terribile wrote:
>:
>: > CHRIS BARNES MAKE THE BEST LYRICS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
>: > AND THE MOST "GUTURAL" VOCAL ON THE EARTH!!!
>: > C.BARNES RULES!!!
>: > CORPSEGRINDER IS SUCKS!!!
>: > TOMB OF THE MUTILATED IS THE BEST ALBUM OF CANNIBAL CORPSE!
>: >
>: > I CUM BLOOD!
>:
>: What an idiot. BTW, with all the hype about Chris Barnes's lyrics, I'd
>: just like to say that Chris's lyrics are shitty, boring, and kid's stuff
>: compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
Gore lyrics are kid's stuff in general (although I do indulge myself
sometimes)...
>Only problem is, BROKEN HOPE SUCKS!
DITTO!
Alex Shterenberg
Gregory Nalbandian wrote:
>
> Heretic (???@!!.com) wrote:
> : fabricio terribile wrote:
> :
> : > CHRIS BARNES MAKE THE BEST LYRICS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
> : > AND THE MOST "GUTURAL" VOCAL ON THE EARTH!!!
> : > C.BARNES RULES!!!
> : > CORPSEGRINDER IS SUCKS!!!
> : > TOMB OF THE MUTILATED IS THE BEST ALBUM OF CANNIBAL CORPSE!
> : >
> : > I CUM BLOOD!
> :
> : What an idiot. BTW, with all the hype about Chris Barnes's lyrics, I'd
> : just like to say that Chris's lyrics are shitty, boring, and kid's stuff
> : compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
You know, Broken Hope's lyrics aren't really lyrics, they are just plain
quotations taken from a medical dictionary. Plus, Chris has a very
special way of expressing a feeling of horror; nobody can do it better
than him.
Heretic
goden wrote:
> Gore lyrics are kid's stuff in general (although I do indulge myself
> sometimes)...
I tend to think that Satanic lyrics are kids stuff, and at times pretty
lame and boring. When death bands come up with lyrics that try to sound
serious and intellectual it usually ends up being retarded. I personally
prefer lyrics that don't try to sound serious but instead are just sick,
entertaining, and funny.
Heretic
Heretic
goden wrote:
>
> ez06...@boris.ucdavis.edu (Gregory Nalbandian) wrote:
> >Only problem is, BROKEN HOPE SUCKS!
>
> DITTO!
Broken Hope rules.
goden
Heretic <???@!!.com> wrote:
>goden wrote:
I agree with you that satanic lyrics are kid's stuff. And they're
definitely tired, lame and hideously boring. How many times can one
listen to "hail satan and his blackened anal hairs with their
blackened dingleberries"?
It just depends on the listener and that's certainly understandable.
I, myself, prefer the lyrics written by doom bands: poetry and
introspective stuff. Songs that tell stories, like Amorphis's and
King Diamond's material are interesting, also. The lyrics on the last
three Death albums were cool, too, and Bolt Thrower's last two
albums...
Heretic
Alex Shterenberg wrote:
> You know, Broken Hope's lyrics aren't really lyrics, they are just plain
> quotations taken from a medical dictionary. Plus, Chris has a very
> special way of expressing a feeling of horror; nobody can do it better
> than him.
Hmmm...which songs are you referring to? I'm not quite sure what you're
talking about here, Broken Hope's lyrics aren't even close to a medical
dictionary. Carcass comes to mind though.
Heretic
Benn Rice
--
Corpus Callosum
Springfield (Home of The Simpsons?), Mass. USA
ICQ User (322297)
> : What an idiot. BTW, with all the hype about Chris Barnes's lyrics, I'd
> : just like to say that Chris's lyrics are shitty, boring, and kid's
stuff
> : compared to Broken Hope's lyrics (Hail Jeremy!).
> :
> : Heretic
>
> Yeah, I'd agree that Broken Hope's lyrics on "Bowels..." are much more
> entertaining and even funny at times. Only problem is, BROKEN HOPE
SUCKS!
I agree about the sense of humour too. I like that.
While I'd agree about Broken Hope's other albums, I thought THE BOWELS OF
REPUGNANCE was mostly good. A few riffs even great. They had alot of slow
spots that they played too repetiously. It was kinda odd to me as they
usually weren't repetitive, and had quite a bit of involved riffs
elsewhere. But when they DID get repetitious, they oddly enough chose
their simplest riffs to do it with.
Benn Rice
--
Corpus Callosum
Springfield (Home of The Simpsons?), Mass. USA
ICQ User (322297)
> You know, Broken Hope's lyrics aren't really lyrics, they are just plain
> quotations taken from a medical dictionary. Plus, Chris has a very
> special way of expressing a feeling of horror; nobody can do it better
> than him.
Only if ur scared by The Living Dead movies and have nightmares of such
things.
Well, and if ur female. :)
I don't care for the zombie lyrics, they don't affect me one way or
another. I just think comic book horror is kinda dumb, but I love CC
because of their awesome music.
I was a offended by Barnes focus on killing women on THE BLEEDING, but they
redeemed themselves lyrically by the politically correct gore on VILE. :)
Even tho the music has gone downhill a bit.
On the music side, their works with Barnes was better, and I like the sound
of Barnes voice MUCH better. Fischer does have more variety tho, I just
don't like all the BM vocals he does here and there, and the sound of his
voice. Kinda dry and ummm, I dunno. Barnes voice was richer, more
resonant, not dry and raspy.
I missed the woman's opinion who apparently posted. Are u still there
woman? :) What'd she say?
Heretic
Benn Rice wrote:
>
> --
> Corpus Callosum
> Springfield (Home of The Simpsons?), Mass. USA
> ICQ User (322297)
>
I think the problem here is that too many people see Broken Hope as
strictly a death band, where I consider them a death/grind band. The
technical side is there, but it's broken down into simple, brutal,
repetitive riffs. I personally prefer death over grind, but B.H. does a
good job combining elements of both. I like the stop and go/fast and
slow aspect of their music.
Heretic
---Life Sux
Heretic
DEB106 wrote:
>
> Iam still here. Im not sure anyone heard my response but i dont have time
> now. I will post it tomorrow.Also I tried to get in touch with Heretic and
> couldnt. I have alot to say leave your address. I am also wondering if
> that "Alex" guy from that Webzine read my response posted in another Re:
> somewhere in this newsgroup-apparently not.
> Dark Princess
Yeah repost it please. Apparently this is the first time this week that
this thread showed up on my newsreader. I'm on here everyday and this
thread vanished on my newsreader for a bit.
Heretic
---Life Sux
Heretic
Benn Rice wrote:
>
> --
> Corpus Callosum
> Springfield (Home of The Simpsons?), Mass. USA
> ICQ User (322297)
>
> > quotations taken from a medical dictionary. Plus, Chris has a very
> > special way of expressing a feeling of horror; nobody can do it better
> > than him.
>
> Only if ur scared by The Living Dead movies and have nightmares of such
> things.
> Well, and if ur female. :)
> I don't care for the zombie lyrics, they don't affect me one way or
> another. I just think comic book horror is kinda dumb, but I love CC
> because of their awesome music.
> I was a offended by Barnes focus on killing women on THE BLEEDING, but they
> redeemed themselves lyrically by the politically correct gore on VILE. :)
> Even tho the music has gone downhill a bit.
>
How can you think The Bleeding is better than Vile? Musically I mean.
Heretic
---Life Sux
Alex Shterenberg
DEB106 wrote:
>
> Iam still here. Im not sure anyone heard my response but i dont have time
> now. I will post it tomorrow.Also I tried to get in touch with Heretic and
> couldnt. I have alot to say leave your address. I am also wondering if
> that "Alex" guy from that Webzine read my response posted in another Re:
> somewhere in this newsgroup-apparently not.
> Dark Princess
actually.
So feel free to e-mail me.
DEB106
goden
Heretic <???@!!.com> wrote:
>How can you think The Bleeding is better than Vile? Musically I mean.
I like it more because it's catchier and can listen to it over and
over. 'The Bleeding' had some really good solos, and I HATE solos.
'Vile' just seemed like a boring attempt at recapturing their old
brutality (ie 'Tomb...'). But I'm probably a poser for liking catchy
shit, so who cares.
> ---Life Sux
Yup.