Did any of y'all lose power today?
Z
LILLIBUNNY
>Shoot, we were blacked out down here for a good 6 hours.
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No, lucky us . I heard that we have a separate "grid" and that it somehow can
prevent the loss of power. I thought that's what the other states said. Anyway,
am glad to still have power and be able to type this.
propp
"Z" <zarl...@conan.ids.net> wrote in message
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> Shoot, we were blacked out down here for a good 6 hours.
You tortured soul, you!
So, how was your first metro NY blackout?
propp
"LILLIBUNNY" <lilli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> No, lucky us . I heard that we have a separate "grid" and that it somehow can
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Nope, pure luck in that we were spared.
>I thought that's what the other states said. Anyway,
> am glad to still have power and be able to type this.
I've got my screwdriver poised over the toaster, so everybody be nice...<S>
Z
: So, how was your first metro NY blackout?
It sounded pretty damn bad - trains stuck between stations, etc.
But I don't work in NYC.
Linda M. Young
> Shoot, we were blacked out down here for a good 6 hours.
My mom said they had a blackout for about a half hour, but it sounded
as if it was BEFORE the big power crash, so it was probably a local
thing.
Linda
"I'm from Rhode Island...
I only work in Georgia."
Laury
"propp" <pr...@att.net> wrote in message
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> "LILLIBUNNY" <lilli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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No, we were spared by design. Check out the front page of Projo. The New
England power grid detached from the NY grid almost as soon as the problem
began. When the power first failed in NY, New England began feeding a large
amount of electricity to NY, as did the midwest, which then caused a
backflow
to NE, which had the effect of tripping a giant circuit breaker. Seven major
lines
connecting NE and NY were disconnected, and we were spared.
The story also notes RI can produce much more power than it consumes.
Laury
Edwin Ellinwood
"Laury" <la...@coxxx.net> wrote in message
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Mr Potatohead
I was one of the few New Englanders to watch Johnny Carson
the night of the 1965 blackout. He had candles on his desk
and the lighting was really dim. But I could watch it from
my perch at the top of Maine -- the only part of NE that had
power. At least I remember it that way.
Last night all the shows were on and bright, without
candles. Times have changed.
Carol Cohen
Maybe the East Bay RI outage the night before started the dominoes
falling. Huge electrical storm over Newport, and the power was out
for 4 hours in parts of Tiverton & Little Compton -- the eastern
parts, so Owen was probably OK.
First thing you do when the power goes out in private well country, is
fill up the lobster kettle (usually the largest one in the house) with
water until the pressurizing tank is empty. That's your entire water
supply til the power goes on again. Unless you have a generator.
I hear that Cleveland & other outage places will have no city water
for several days while they strive to get all the filters & pumps
operating again.
This outage, though it didn't affect me directly, makes me think about
getting off the grid in many ways, not just electricity.
Am I the only person who keeps on misreading "outage" as "outrage"?
C.C.
KiloDeLate
Yes I've known for quite some time that the New England power grid was a
slightly different animal than others around the country.
And you're right - we've got an excess of power generation capacity in
the region. Nice isn't it?
Owen Hartnett
Cohen <carol...@raines.com> wrote:
> Z <zarl...@conan.ids.net> wrote in message
> news:<vjp3rtk...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > propp <pr...@att.net> wrote:
> > : So, how was your first metro NY blackout?
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> > It sounded pretty damn bad - trains stuck between stations, etc.
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> Maybe the East Bay RI outage the night before started the dominoes
> falling. Huge electrical storm over Newport, and the power was out
> for 4 hours in parts of Tiverton & Little Compton -- the eastern
> parts, so Owen was probably OK.
I lost power, but only for a few minutes.
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> First thing you do when the power goes out in private well country, is
> fill up the lobster kettle (usually the largest one in the house) with
> water until the pressurizing tank is empty. That's your entire water
> supply til the power goes on again. Unless you have a generator.
It's also a good reason not to put 1001 flushes in your toilet tank.
>
> I hear that Cleveland & other outage places will have no city water
> for several days while they strive to get all the filters & pumps
> operating again.
I hear that metro Detroit might not get power until the end of the
weekend. Of course, the most crime-ridden City gets the end of the
stick.
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> This outage, though it didn't affect me directly, makes me think about
> getting off the grid in many ways, not just electricity.
I've been thinking about a generator since the hurricane knocked out my
power for 2 days in 1995.
-Owen
JETman
And then there is Texas...
Here's an article that appeared in today's Austin Biz Journal...
Texas power grid stable, official says
Ann Hatchitt
Austin Business Journal Staff
Texas' electrical grid escaped any effects from Thursday's massive power
outage in the Eastern United States and Canada.
That's because the Texas power grid is the
only independent system in North America that
doesn't cross state lines.
"We have made major investments over the
years in building a very strong transmission
system within the state," says Tom Noel, CEO
of the Austin-based Electric Reliability Council
of Texas Inc.
ERCOT oversees the state's power grid.
ERCOT covers 75 percent of the geographical
area of Texas and monitors 85 percent of the
state's power.
The ERCOT grid remains stable despite reports
of difficulties in other power grids in the United
States and Canada, Noel says. The Texas grid
isn't connected with the Eastern or Western
systems, so what happens in those systems
doesn't harm the ERCOT grid, Noel says.
ERCOT serves 7 million customers and
supervises more than 77,000 megawatts of
generation and 37,000 miles of transmission
lines in Texas. ERCOT's members include
retail providers, investor- and municipally
owned utilities, rural electric cooperatives, river
authorities and independent generators.
ERCOT has its roots in a system established in
Texas during World War II.
The Texas Interconnected System was set up
in the 1940s to support aluminum smelting on
the Texas Gulf Coast for wartime airplane
production across the country. In 1970,
ERCOT was formed by that system to monitor
the reliability of electricity in Texas.
ERCOT reached a peak usage of 60,157 megawatts Aug. 8 but
currently is operating below that level, Noel says.
Anne
> fill up the lobster kettle (usually the largest one in the house) with
> water until the pressurizing tank is empty. That's your entire water
> supply til the power goes on again.
Oh, boy, do I remember *this* from my Little Compton years!
After Hurricane Gloria, we had no well water (no pump running, or anything
else) for nearly a week. We bought bottled water to drink, and paid the
day rate at a hotel in Fall Reeve to take showers.
- Anne
mj
KiloDeLate wrote:
>And you're right - we've got an excess of power generation capacity in
>the region. Nice isn't it?
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Is that due to good planning or simply a stagnant economy?
mj
Carol Cohen wrote:
>Maybe the East Bay RI outage the night before started the dominoes
>falling. Huge electrical storm over Newport, and the power was out
>for 4 hours in parts of Tiverton & Little Compton -- the eastern
>parts, so Owen was probably OK.
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A house in East Greenwich got a direct hit and went up in flames that
took several hours for the fire department to control. The owners
(luckily, I guess) were away on vacation. Must have been a shock when
they drove into the driveway.
Eric Scantlebury
"mj" <mja...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I'd venture a guess - neither.
mj
Owen Hartnett wrote:
> I've been thinking about a generator since the hurricane knocked out my
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>power for 2 days in 1995.
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>-Owen
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In the winter of 1999 (maybe 98), I was living in TN when an ice storm
knocked power out over a relatively large area. It took a full week
before we got power. I had just converted from heat pumps to a gas
furnace the year before - problem was that the furnace and hot water
heater required electricity to ignite the flame. Tried burning a lot
of wood in the fireplace, but it was quickly obvious that it was a
losing proposition. Ended up spending several nights in a motel when
the 40-50F inside temp got too uncomfortable. Seriously considered a
generator, but never made the purchase.
Eric Scantlebury
"JETman" <jeta...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> And then there is Texas...
Yea - but to get it, you gotta live in texas. I'd rather gamble the loss of
power, thank you ;-)
Eric
Whose been to Dallas - and now understands where he would never want to
live.
Eric Scantlebury
"Anne" <hennypen...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> After Hurricane Gloria, we had no well water (no pump running, or anything
> else) for nearly a week. We bought bottled water to drink, and paid the
> day rate at a hotel in Fall Reeve to take showers.
Try living in a house with no(ok, very little) water for a couple of years
(2 wells, 1 dug 400 feet - turned up dry). We flushed with rain water off
the gutters collected after rain storms. That was my "chore".
mj
Mr Potatohead wrote:
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> I was one of the few New Englanders to watch Johnny Carson the night
> of the 1965 blackout. He had candles on his desk and the lighting was
> really dim. But I could watch it from my perch at the top of Maine --
> the only part of NE that had power. At least I remember it that way.
I recall playing Trivial Pursuit a number of years ago with a group of
neighbors when a card came up concerning an event that happened at
5:15pm on Nov 9th, 1965. Several of us immediately recalled the event
in much detail - where we were, etc. The others (who hadn't experience
it, particularly from other parts of the country) had no idea what it
was about or why it was so memorable of a moment, etc.
Eric Scantlebury
> Seriously considered a
> generator, but never made the purchase.
Thinking about a propane fired house unit. In the future, of course.
KiloDeLate
I believe it's due to deregulation. But deregulation didn't do anything
for our prices.
The only thing done right about it was they separated the transmission
network from the generating plants. DOJ should have done the same to
Bell back in 1984 but alas, Judge Greene had a major hair across his ass
with regard to Bell.
Z
: else) for nearly a week. We bought bottled water to drink, and paid the
: day rate at a hotel in Fall Reeve to take showers.
What's that? $10/day?
mj
Z wrote:
well, that's the afternoon rate......
propp
"Eric Scantlebury" <esca...@rida.net> wrote in message
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Do I hear a banjo playing in the backround?
Anne
> : day rate at a hotel in Fall Reeve to take showers.
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> What's that? $10/day?
LOL! Actually, back then I think it was about $20. :-)
- Anne
Eric Scantlebury
> Do I hear a banjo playing in the backround?
:-)
Z
:> : We bought bottled water to drink, and paid the
:> : day rate at a hotel in Fall Reeve to take showers.
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:> What's that? $10/day?
: LOL! Actually, back then I think it was about $20. :-)
You stayed at the Hilton!
;')
czf
Crybaby. I live like that all summer long, no running water, taking showers
at beach pavilions, drinking bottled water - ON PURPOSE - and, oh, it gets
better, - WITH THREE CHILDREN !!
;-)