Sara Salzman: BDSM and the Law
National Front88
Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me to help her
(or something of a similar nature), so here is help for Sara "Ken McVay's
abandoned friend" Salzman. I noticed this Web site lists the following legal
help for people afflicted with such a diseased mind. With a little more
research, and having read Doc Tavish's posts again, I offer the following
advice to Sara Salzman: Contact a BDSM friendly attorney!
http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
Contact a BDSM friendly attorney:click here in...@rmpe.org
Some interesting articles:
What to do if the Police Come to Your Door
Public Indecency
First Amendment Rights
Consent, Assault & Sexual Assault
Sodomy Laws
The Thunder Memo
Looking for legal advice RIGHT NOW?
Visit ASK THE LAWYER, a free resource
for free legal advice on BDSM issues by Frederick McDermott
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Master-Slave Contracts:
Master/Slave contracts are not binding.
They do serve other good purposes however in the same way that a well-drafted
waiver does. That is to say, to show the knowledge, intent, and state of mind
of the parties at the time the contract is signed. Such contracts can be used
to show what the parties agreed to and that they were aware of certain risks.
They can spell out the promises that have been made, and not made, with regard
to property just like a pre-nuptial agreement.
The parties might also want to have witnesses who would be willing to come to
court and testify about the circumstances of the signing and/or ceremony to
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National Front88
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe with
those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." --Sara Salzman
Jeffrey G. Brown
"nationalfront88" wrote:
> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me to help her
Cite the request, lying coward.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
John Morris
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In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
Front88) wrote:
> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>
> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me
> to help her (or something of a similar nature),
No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to help
her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
about having rough sex with Jews.
[snip]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Tavish
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
>Front88) wrote:
>
>> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>>
>> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me
>> to help her (or something of a similar nature),
:
>No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to help
>her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
>
>And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture fantasies she posted
to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture that she is having an orgasmic
frenzy about now! Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
<START>
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com
My Master holds the rope just so.
He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.
Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.
Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.
He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.
The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.
The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.
The horsehair that stings but never marks.
The canes. The paddles. A pause.
I wait, knowing.
The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.
A gasp. And then his smile.
He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.
My Master holds the rope just so.
Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.
I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.
But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.
My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.
The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.
The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.
My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."
My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.
"Kneel."
I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
<STOP>
Do you wish to go on record now and deny that Sara Salzman had posted the above?
In my humble opinion Sara fantasizes about being roughly victimized YET the
lying bitch makes up a lie and swears to it in a sworn statement to a civil
court with these words:
AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:
[...]
5. That someone using the alias of "Doc Tavish" is one of the
anti-Semitic activists who have harassed Deponent, and Deponent believes
that "Doc Tavish" is Scott Bradbury , the Defendant herein.
6. That the harassment by the anti-Semitic activists, including "Doc
Tavish," has taken the form of, among other things, threats of violence,
including threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."
<end>
I would say that Sara and Yale have projected Sara's own S&M Torture fantasies
on me when they accuse (without ever showing the post they accuse of me of
making) me of wanting to do what Sara publicly fantasizes about!
>Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
>about having rough sex with Jews.
What about Jews fantasizing about having S&M Torture done to themselves as Sara
Salzman fantasized about!?
I will make sure any jury in the future sees Sara's accusations and her
fantasies! YOU CAN COUNT ON IT! BTW any future jury will see how Yale F. Edeiken
had threatened a witness with a gun in the Lehigh County Court House too as a
character statement about him!
Doc Tavish
---I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
National Front88
From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
Date: 12/29/2001 6:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
Front88) wrote:
> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>
> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me
> to help her (or something of a similar nature),
No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to help her was
really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize about having
rough sex with Jews.
[snip]
- --
John Morris
at University of Alberta
=====================================
You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words, "rough sex with
Jews."? No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very perverted thought
never crossed my mind, something you cannot claim. On the other hand, we do
know with absolute certainty what Sara Salzman and her "Master" actually do,
don't we?
In passing, how, exactly, am I "victimizing" Sara Salzman? Feel free to
go in to FINE DETAIL while keeping in mind that Ken "I'll abandon you if you're
a proved and exposed sexual pervert" McVay pointed out that what goes around
comes around and chickens do come home to roost. Sara Salzman is the one who
posted her thoughts and described her interactions with her "Master" to the
World Wide Web. Da po' widdle victim.
Mr. Morris, you strike me as one of the more reasoned and reasonable
types who lean to the extreme far Left (translation: YOU wouldn't murder me,
but you would shed no tears if some Jew planted a pipe bomb on my property and
killed me and my family). Where were your tears when Sara Salzman filed false
and vindictive lawsuits against other people? Where were your tears when a Jew
Pig made terrorist threats using MY NAME that cost me and mine time and
expense? Sounds very similar to what someone else experienced at the hands of
a Jew, come to think. (The Left refer to this as monkey wrenching, trust me.)
Where are your protests against spamming Doc Tavish's home address on A.R.? Is
this typical behavior of Jews, Mr. Morris? I certainly believe that an answer
is in order. I believe you are extremely biased in favor of the Religious
Left.
When Ken McVay writes a public letter of apology for his crimes against
peace, against truth, duping people out of donated funds (see: Red Cross
Scandal), for telling intentional lies, his money laundering racket ... need I
go on? ... get back to me, hypocrite.
Oh, I nearly forgot: Ken McVay doesn't actually OWN the car he drives,
so he was telling the truth on that one. But he does drive a car.
National Front88
PS: why are you too frightened to post without using PGP, Mr. Morris? Perhaps
you could start your own Newsgroup about preaching *tolerance* while you live
in a safe, all-White community.
PPS: Where are your tears for the ongoing Holocaust against the Palestinians
at the hands of the Jews, Mr. Morris? Are you man enough to face brutal
reality?
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." --Sara Salzman
Jeffrey G. Brown
"nationalfront88" wrote:
> Where were your tears when Sara Salzman filed false
> and vindictive lawsuits against other people?
Against whom, specifically and by name, did Ms. Salzman file "false and
vindictive lawsuits", lying coward?
> Where were your tears when a Jew
> Pig made terrorist threats using MY NAME that cost me and mine time and
> expense?
Fact-free accusation from an anonymous coward. Dismissed for lack of evidence.
> When Ken McVay writes a public letter of apology for his crimes against
> peace
What "crimes against peace" has Mr. McVay committed, lying coward?
> against truth
What "crimes against truth" has Mr. McVay committed, lying coward?
> duping people out of donated funds
Who, specifically and by name, has been "dup[ed]... out of donated funds" by Mr.
McVay, lying coward?
> [...deletia...]
> for telling intentional lies
What specific "intentional lies" has Mr. McVay told, lying coward?
> his money laundering racket
What specific "money laundering racket" is Mr. McVay responsible for, lying
coward?
Stay stupid, bigot...
GassenBurnham
>From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
>Message-id: <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com>
>
>Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
>about having rough sex with Jews.
>
> John Morris
Hmmmm, 'rough sex with jews'... now this is some fantasy, Jack.
How long have you been harbouring this desire?
Do you think a desire for 'rough sex' with Sara may be the driving force behind
your continuing defence of her perverse lifestyle?
How far do you feel you would like to take this 'rough sex'?
If there were no repercussions, would you consider 'snuffing' the object of
your desires?
Tell me, Jack... was your mother a dominant woman, do you nurture a desire to
'square' the books?
I think you haul a lot of baggage when it comes to punishing women, Jack, keep
talking, it will do you good.
"If I am killing a rat with a stick and have him in a corner, I am not
indignant if he tries to bite me and squeals and gibbers with rage. My job is
to attend to my footwork and to keep on hitting him where it will do the most
good" A. S. Lees
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20011230060821...@mb-mn.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Sara Salzman: BDSM and the Law
> >From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
> >Date: 12/30/01 12:34 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com>
> >
>
> >Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
> >about having rough sex with Jews.
> >
> > John Morris
>
> Hmmmm, 'rough sex with jews'... now this is some fantasy, Jack.
>
> How long have you been harbouring this desire?
>
> Do you think a desire for 'rough sex' with Sara may be the driving force
behind
> your continuing defence of her perverse lifestyle?
>
> How far do you feel you would like to take this 'rough sex'?
>
> If there were no repercussions, would you consider 'snuffing' the object
of
> your desires?
>
> Tell me, Jack... was your mother a dominant woman, do you nurture a desire
to
> 'square' the books?
I bet she is a prostitute.
John Morris
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In <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:09:52 -0600, Tavish
<t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:34:29 GMT,
> <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT,
> >nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
> >> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
> >> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for
> >> me to help her (or something of a similar nature),
> >No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to
> >help her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
> >And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture
> that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy. While I am sure
it is intensely interesting to you, might I suggest you take it t a
more appropriate newsgroup? Perhaps alt.sex.voyeur?
> Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
> victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
After all, Scott, you do seem to think an awful lot about other
people having sex.
[snip]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
Front88) wrote:
[snip]
> You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words, "rough
> sex with Jews."?
It is one possible explanation for your apparent obession with Sara
Salzman.
> No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very perverted
> thought never crossed my mind, something you cannot claim. On the
> other hand, we do know with absolute certainty what Sara Salzman
> and her "Master" actually do, don't we?
We also know with an absolute certainty that you dwell rather a lot
upon the subject.
Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com...
Morris seems to enjoy watching children being sexually abused by his
friends.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
>
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
> on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
> Front88) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words, "rough
> > sex with Jews."?
>
> It is one possible explanation for your apparent obession with Sara
> Salzman.
>
> > No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very perverted
> > thought never crossed my mind, something you cannot claim. On the
> > other hand, we do know with absolute certainty what Sara Salzman
> > and her "Master" actually do, don't we?
>
> We also know with an absolute certainty that you dwell rather a lot
> upon the subject.
>
> Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
We know you support pedophiles.
Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
>
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
Front88) wrote:
[Oh. There was more rambling nonsense].
> In passing, how, exactly, am I "victimizing" Sara Salzman?
> Feel free to go in to FINE DETAIL
Fine detail is not necessary. You are badgering her in order to hurt
her.
Why don't you explain your reasons for doing so?
> while keeping in mind that Ken "I'll abandon you if you're
> a proved and exposed sexual pervert" McVay pointed out that what
> goes around comes around and chickens do come home to roost. Sara
> Salzman is the one who posted her thoughts and described her
> interactions with her "Master" to the World Wide Web. Da po' widdle
> victim.
> Mr. Morris, you strike me as one of the more reasoned and
> reasonable types who lean to the extreme far Left
I guess to a self-described Nazi, a liberal democrat like me would
appear to be on the are left. I guess from your vantage point, the
actual left disappears into the mists over your limited horizon.
> (translation: YOU wouldn't murder me,
> but you would shed no tears if some Jew planted a pipe bomb on my
> property and killed me and my family).
On the other hand, if I had information which would lead to the
capture and conviction of the bomber(s), I would pass it on to the
police.
> Where were your tears when Sara Salzman filed false
> and vindictive lawsuits against other people?
I wasn't aware that Sara Salzman filed *any* lawsuit much less a
false one. I do know that she gave a deposition in Edeiken v.
Bradbury that was, so far as I can tell, truthful and accurate.
> Where were your tears when a Jew
> Pig made terrorist threats using MY NAME that cost me and mine time
> and expense?
What the hell are you talking about? How would I know about it if
don't know who you are?
> Sounds very similar to what someone else experienced at the hands
> of a Jew, come to think. (The Left refer to this as monkey
> wrenching, trust me.) Where are your protests against spamming Doc
> Tavish's home address on A.R.?
Check Google. You'll find lots of examples.
> Is
> this typical behavior of Jews, Mr. Morris?
Not so as I've observed. Perhaps you should ask a Jew.
> I certainly believe that an answer
> is in order.
Well, there you go.
> I believe you are extremely biased in favor of the Religious
> Left.
I can't imagine why.
> When Ken McVay writes a public letter of apology for his
> crimes against peace, against truth, duping people out of donated
> funds (see: Red Cross Scandal), for telling intentional lies, his
> money laundering racket ... need I go on?
No. I've pretty much figured out that you are a raving lunatic.
> ... get back to me, hypocrite.
> Oh, I nearly forgot: Ken McVay doesn't actually OWN the car
> he drives, so he was telling the truth on that one. But he does
> drive a car.
Okaaaaaay. . . .
> PS: why are you too frightened to post without using PGP, Mr.
> Morris?
Because of the large numbers of forgeries posted here. You may have
noticed that not a lot of forgeries are posted in my name.
> Perhaps
> you could start your own Newsgroup about preaching *tolerance*
> while you live in a safe, all-White community.
I don't live in an all-white community.
> PPS: Where are your tears for the ongoing Holocaust against the
> Palestinians at the hands of the Jews, Mr. Morris? Are you man
> enough to face brutal reality?
Check Google.
And please stop obsessing on Sara Salzman.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Tavish
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>In <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:09:52 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:34:29 GMT,
>> <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>> >In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in
>> >alt.revisionism, on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT,
>> >nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
>
>> >> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>
>> >> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for
>> >> me to help her (or something of a similar nature),
:
>> >No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to
>> >help her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
>> >
>> >And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
:
>> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture
>> that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
:
>You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her character and I
am not about to let up. She makes a sworn statement to a civil court stating in
brief:
<START>
AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:
[...]
5. That someone using the alias of "Doc Tavish" is one of the
anti-Semitic activists who have harassed Deponent, and Deponent believes
that "Doc Tavish" is Scott Bradbury , the Defendant herein.
6. That the harassment by the anti-Semitic activists, including "Doc
Tavish," has taken the form of, among other things, threats of violence,
including threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."
<STOP>
I maintain her false and unsubstantiated (to this very date) is just another
false accusation manufactured from her own fantasies!
Ken McVay has already claimed Yale F. Edeiken plans to bring his kook lawsuit to
Texas and I hope the bastard does. He will be availing himself of Texas courts
thus placing himself under their jurisdiction and I plan to have him answer for
each and every one of his perjurious statements in his original complaints and I
will have Sara's testimony scrutinized sid by side with her S&M Torture
fantasies! Also Yale will have his obscene and threatening call played to a jury
and the jury will see how he accused me of posting his parent's names and
addresses etc. when it has been proven it was a cable modem subscriber in
Cincinnati who did it! Also Medical Records are protected by law in the State of
Texas and yale will have to answer for his falsifying what they said and making
it public. I do hope the sleazy bastard does avail himself to Texas Courts and
places himself under Texas jurisdiction-- I'm sure he will get some prison time!
Back to Sara's writings-- here is what a jury will see and they will note it
comes from a person who accuses me of: "threats of violence, including
threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades.":
<START>
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
<STOP>
BTW John, you might pass it on to Shyster Edeiken that his history of violence
and threatening people with firearms in a court house elevators will be
presented as well as testimony from several attorneys from Allentown who will
make statements about Yale's ethics.
This will also be presented too:
I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered): "Because they were dealing with
someone who was "mentally unstable" (their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again,
their description) who they wanted to go away as quckly as possible."
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
>While I am sure it is intensely interesting to you, might I suggest you take
>it t a more appropriate newsgroup? Perhaps alt.sex.voyeur?
Is that your favorite group John?
>> Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
>> victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
:
>After all, Scott, you do seem to think an awful lot about other
>people having sex.
>
>[snip]
So S&M Torture as Sara describes is your idea of having sex also?
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
John Morris
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In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
<t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
[snip]
> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
> character and I am not about to let up.
In other words, you are fixated.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <J1HX7.10074$Xs4.2...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:27:52 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:nqeu2u4g09ojjilcn...@4ax.com...
> > In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in
> > alt.revisionism, on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT,
> > nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words,
> > > "rough sex with Jews."?
> > It is one possible explanation for your apparent obession with
> > Sara Salzman.
> > > No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very perverted
> > > thought never crossed my mind, something you cannot claim. On
> > > the other hand, we do know with absolute certainty what Sara
> > > Salzman and her "Master" actually do, don't we?
> > We also know with an absolute certainty that you dwell rather a
> > lot upon the subject.
> > Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
> We know you support pedophiles.
I do not support pedophiles.
> Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
Your conjectures have led you to tell lies.
Care to explain why?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Jeffrey G. Brown
> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture fantasies she
> posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture that she is having an
> orgasmic frenzy about now!
Gee, Fat Boy -- what do *your* "S&M Torture fantasies" that *you* posted to
alt.revisionism tell us about *you*?
Dance, fat little cockroach, dance...
Tavish
<jeffreygbrown-AD3...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture fantasies she
>> posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture that she is having an
>> orgasmic frenzy about now!
:
>Gee, Fat Boy -- what do *your* "S&M Torture fantasies" that *you* posted to
>alt.revisionism tell us about *you*?
>
>Dance, fat little cockroach, dance...
Why don't you post some in full context just as I did for Sara.
I am waiting!
>JGB
Doc Tavish
--
"I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame."
-- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
T-a-v-i-s-h
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
>> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
>> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
>> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
>
>> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
>> character and I am not about to let up.
:
>In other words, you are fixated.
Fixated? How am I fixated on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including threatening to
sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture Deponent to death, and
threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."" when her own writings show where
such fantasies come from.
Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever produced the
post which would substantiate their claim? Where is your sense of truth and
justice?
As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep posting
her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it. You seemed to
have no problem when Yale and Sara were parading Yale's concocted lawsuit
against me and were rubbing my nose in it.
I hope Yale places himself under the jurisdiction of the Texas Justice system!
Wendy will have a long way to travel for her visitation when Yale gets numerous
convictions for his numerous criminal acts against me.
Texas has very protective laws about subpoenaing medical records, falsifying
what they say, posting them for public view with the sole intention to cause the
recipient to be harassed. I could only hope Yale and Sara drink Jim Jones Kool
Aid. I am not giving up on having both of them answer for what they attempted to
do to me!
Also BTW I never announced why Yale F. Edeiken Esq. lost his appeal concerning
his failed lawsuit. Care to take a guess why the appeal was DISMISSED?
ANSWER: (Everyone should be able to obtain the document too seeing how it is
public record.) Yale lost his appeal for this reason:
(From the very document dated September 26, 2001 from David A. Szewczak -
Prothonotary) "AND NOW, this 26th day of September,2001,the withing=h appeal is
DISMISSED for failure to file a brief." Document Number 1714 EDA 2001
Care to speculate why Yale F. Edeiken was gung ho for me getting an attorney to
"fight his appeal" as well as all of his minions? I know why! The bastard wanted
me to spend more money on attorney's fees and seeing how he is his own attorney
and has no fees it is obvious that his goal was to bleed me even more!
I didn't fall for the trick as this post proves Yale mentioning attorney's fees
and how I chose to answer his "appeal":
<START>
Yale didn't file a brief (as I see) for only two reasons:
1) He just wanted me to sink more money into attorney's fees as he even stated
it would cost me $5000.00 or so to counter his appeal as proven here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=Uvie7.74%249d.11873%40newshog.newsread.com
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Message-ID: <Uvie7.74$9d.1...@newshog.newsread.com>
"Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
passed up an incredible bargain."
<END>
The above indicates Yale just wanted me to blow more money at $5000.00 worth to
fight a frivolous lawsuit based on manufactured evidence!
2) Yale may have chickened out if he reasoned on my attitude regarding his
appeal when I stated:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqgiov5716bui5vnu6ad%404ax.com
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqg...@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:36 -0700, <9lccth$20e$2...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
"PB" <patbl...@hotmaill.com> wrote:
>Yale F. Edeiken wrote in message ...
>
>> Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
>>for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
>>action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
>>rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
>>passed up an incredible bargain.
:
>But this is not an appeal about a personal injury case in the classic sense,
>it is an appeal about jurisdiction. It would appear that your appeal has to
>do with more with Judge Reibman than it does with Tavish. If you would
>happen to be victorious, the judgment would be reinstated and sent back down
>to Reibman for further proceedings.
Either way I will win.
If he loses then he will finally shut up hopefully.
If he wins his appeal then it's back to square one and I will get to prove all
that he has done to me I.E. he was nazihunter in December 1999, he fabricated
evidence and the list is long. His appeal is based on whether my USENET postings
fall into Pennsylvania jurisdiction and that he claims the internet comes into
his residence via telephone lines, thus I am making telephone calls.
If he is stupid enough to push that argument then I have hundreds of obscene and
obnoxious telephone callas an officer of the court left on my answering machine
(e-mail) such as:
From: ya...@enter.net
To: <xx...@ix.netcom.com>, <doc_t...@my-deja.com>
Cc: <xx...@ix.netcom.com>, <doc_t...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Fw: DRUNKEN SOT ACCOSTS PEOPLE AT COUNTY COURT HOUSE
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:58:44 -0400
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
Attention Defendant Bradshit
Hey you lying fuck, did you post this your gutless self or was it one
of your homosexual, lovers?
----- Original Message -----
> > From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <m...@anon.lcs.mit.edu>
> > Subject: DRUNKEN SOT ACCOSTS PEOPLE AT COUNTY COURT HOUSE
> > Date: 11 Aug 2001 08:20:14 -0000
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > Message-ID: <200108110820...@nym.alias.net>
> >
> > Path: news!global-news-master!dc1.nntp.concentric.net!
<end>
I have received hundreds of these e-mails. I just got another notice from
EARTHLINK that my e-mail box has over run and why? Yale F. Edeiken!
Don't believe me?
NOTICE #1
To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:07:47 PDT
From: EarthLink Mail Watch <Mail...@EarthLink.Net>
Subject: Important information about your email account
Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
Our records indicate that the storage space allocated to your EarthLink email
account is at or over its quota.
As you may already know, your EarthLink email account has a 10MB storage
limit. If you exceed the 10MB limit, your incoming email will be returned to
the sender with a note saying the message is undeliverable.
We never want you to miss any email messages, so when you exceed the 10MB
storage limit on your EarthLink email account, we send you an update on the
status of your mailbox. That way, you'll have a chance to clean out your
mailbox so the messages addressed to you won't get bounced back to your
family, friends, and coworkers....
NOTICE #2:
To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:52:42 PDT
From: EarthLink Mail Watch <Mail...@EarthLink.Net>
Subject: Important information about your email account
Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
Our records indicate that the storage space allocated to your EarthLink email
account is at or over its quota.
As you may already know, your EarthLink email account has a 10MB storage
limit. If you exceed the 10MB limit, your incoming email will be returned to
the sender with a note saying the message is undeliverable.
We never want you to miss any email messages, so when you exceed the 10MB
storage limit on your EarthLink email account, we send you an update on the
status of your mailbox. That way, you'll have a chance to clean out your
mailbox so the messages addressed to you won't get bounced back to your
family, friends, and coworkers....
<end>
EARTHLINK will testify that I am being harassed by Yale and that he simply will
NOT stop!
From: ab...@mindspring.net
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:47:47 -0400 (EDT)
To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Issue 010724-21042400
Hello,
Thank you for cc:ing us on this cease and desist request. We advise you to
send the full header and body of any subsequent emails from ya...@enter.net
to ab...@enter.net including this original cease and desist request so they
may take action.
Thank you
Beth Milliken
Abuse Engineer
EarthLink Networks
<end>
Most of his e-mails are just as you see above- a broken record which repeats:
"Attention Defendant Bradshit Hey you lying fuck, did you post this your gutless
self or was it one of your homosexual, lovers?"
LET YALE WIN HIS APPEAL AND HE WILL BE TORPEDOED IF THE FTC AND OTHERS DON'T
GET HIM FIRST. He's a sore loser and a pathetic one at that. No one likes sore
losers and since June 12th (when he had his kook lawsuit against me dismissed)
he's been acting like a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. I am tired of
wasting time and MONEY on him.
<STOP>
Anyone wanting a copy of the document I quoted from above about why Yale had his
appeal dismissed should try:
Docket details of Edeiken Vs Bradbury 1999-C-2786--
Anyone may obtain the docket for $3.00 and here is how and
partially what it shows:
Andrea Naugle -- Clerk Civil Court
Lehigh County Court House
Room 202
4555 West Hamilton Street
Allentown, Pennsylvania 18101-1614
BTW John there is a lot that neither you or Edeikenites know about but if
bastard Edeiken shows up in Texas he will face criminal charges. I hope he tries
to foist his kook lawsuit again and he will get nailed for all the lies he told
as proven in these archives which have been admitted to proper authorities over
the months.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=oisojtk9amim07dlukf3uah172bpl7gahd%404ax.com
Subject: A Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take (This is
a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) nazihunter December 1999
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:26:50 -0500
Message-ID: <oisojtk9amim07dlu...@4ax.com>
The above documents how Yale F. Edeiken Esq. issued a subpoena to learn my
identity and my address and telephone number which he subsequently used to
issue death threats.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=cjsojts1647ukls7aci5eunccjick0du18%404ax.com
Subject: A Second Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Forging Digital Signatures
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:05 -0500
Message-ID: <cjsojts1647ukls7a...@4ax.com>
The above fully documents one example of a number that Yale F. Edeiken
manufactured evidence in his malicious prosecution against me.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=15pojto379c9rkbecim3q7f5carfcukte3%404ax.com
Subject: A Third Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Malicious Prosecution
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:13 -0500
Message-ID: <15pojto379c9rkbec...@4ax.com>
The above fully documents how Yale F. Edeiken abuses the legal system to
harass and intimidate people. It shows how he refers to using the legal
system against people as giving them the "treatment."
Here is the "debunking" of the majority of Yale's trumped up charges and out
right lies he made in a sworn statement or complaints against me:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=5&selm=h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6qk4t1adnum6sjuipf%404ax.com
Subject: Ken McVay and his Nizkor Deliberately Make Public False Information In
Order to Smear Private Citizens ...
Message-ID: <h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6...@4ax.com>
The above counters Yale's lunatic accusation that I am nazihunter and thus I
harass myself! The above also proves that I did not originally post Yale F.
Edeiken's parents names etc. The jury will like to compare the above proofs to
Yale's accusations and an obscene telephone call in which Yale made numerous
threats with a voice that obviously sounds like drunkard slurred speech. They
will appreciate how a bastard calls and harasses a Defendant after agreeing in
writing to leave me alone. I still have all the parer work too! I also have Yale
denying an agreement was ever made and then admitting it was!
MORE:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=fbnugtog60c5akdetkekkgepuv2npur610%404ax.com
Subject: By Request- More Yale F. Edeiken Lies and Perjury He Presented in a
Sworn Complaint to a Civil Court!
Message-ID: <fbnugtog60c5akdet...@4ax.com>
The above shows numerous posts of mine deliberately quoted out of context (in
order to put me in a bad light) and what I actually posted in actual context. A
jury will love those! BTW I have all the posts which Yale quoted of context in
full context so any jury or panel of judges will be able to compare what I
actually posted compared to Edeiken's distorted versions!
Here is another false charge a jury will be impressed reading:
Here is Ken McVay (who is also a proven accomplice of Yale F. Edeiken joining in
the smear campaign and propagation of false information using exempt donations
funneled through B'nai Brith):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=95sgho%242pck%241%40news.tht.net
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Plaintiff's Memorandum of Law
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:00:24 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <95sgho$2pck$1...@news.tht.net>
The only question remaining is what damages will be awarded in this
case, against Texan Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a notorious racist.
<<Doc Tavish comment December 30, 2001: Yale lost his lawsuit against me and
that is fact! No victory and no damages awarded to a perjurious lying bastard!>>
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
[...]
Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who floods
the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism.
Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are pederasts and that Judaism
advocates having sexual relations with three year old girls.
<END>
Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel
of judges or a jury:
<START>
I can't help it Tubby but your false accusation simply does not cut it!
You can whine and wail all you wish you shyster bastard BUT I have the
very writings and teachings of your sick brethren to counter your lunatic
complaint! Name any other religion which has teachings such as what
follows and mind you- these are the words straight from the "mouths" of
Jews!
<START>
http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm
(Click the link above to verify the contents and to see pictures
which appeared in The Jerusalem Post magazine. That Rabbi is certainly
SUCKING on an infant's penis! Link active February 24, 2001)
Shabbath 19:2
They may perform on the Sabbath all things that are needful for
circumcision: excision, tearing, sucking [the wound], and putting thereon
a bandage and cumin. If this had not been pounded up on the eve of the
Sabbath a man may chew it with his teeth and then apply it.
The Mishnah Translated by Herbert Danby
Oxford: Oxford University Press. 1933. pp. 116-117.
Shabbat 133B
II.1.
A. Suck [out the wound]:
B. Said R. Pappa, "A Surgeon who didn't suck out the wound - that is a
source of danger, and we throw him out."
C. So what else is new? Obviously, since we are prepared to desecrate the
Sabbath on that account, it is certainly dangerous not to do it!
D. What might you have supposed? That this blood is stored up. So we are
informed that it is the result of the wound, and in the status of a
bandage and cumin: Just as when one doesn't put on a bandage and cumin,
there is danger, so here, too, if one doesn't do it, there is danger.
The Talmud of Babylonia: An American Translation
Translated by Jacob Neusner
Number 275. Volume II.E: Shabbat Chapters 18-24.
Program in Judaic Studies Brown University
Atlanta: Scholars Press. 1993. p. 45.
[The brackets in the quotes below are in the texts quoted.]
"There are three stages required for the performance of a ritually correct
circumcision in Jewish law: the removal of the foreskin; the tearing of
the underlying membraene so as to expose the glans completely; and the
sucking away of the blood, m'tsitsah." Roger V. Pavey. The Kindest Cut of
All. Bognor Regis, W. Sussex: New Horizon. 1981. pp. 87-88.
"The method to be adopted is laid down thus: 'One excises the foreskin,
[that is] the entire skin covering the glans, so that the corona is laid
bare. Afterwards, one tears with the finger-nail the soft membrane
underneath the skin, turning it to the sides until the flesh of the glans
appears. Thereafter, one sucks the membrane until the blood is extracted
from the [more] remote places, so that no danger [to the infant] may
ensue; and any circumciser who does not carry out the sucking procedure is
to be removed [from his office].' . . . The operation itself, then,
consists of three distinct acts: the excision of the prepuce; the
laceration of the mucous membrane covering the glans; and the sucking of
the blood from the interior of the wound." Immanuel Jakobovits. Jewish
Medical Ethics: A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish Religious
Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice. New York: Bloch Publishing Company.
1959. pp. 193-194.
"The baby cried, blood flowed on to his penis and - as the rabbi had
predicted - Graham [the godfather] did not faint. The rabbi then bent over
the baby and sucked the wound. I know this sounds awful, but it is part of
the Jewish tradition. It's supposed to help the healing." Jack Shamash.
"My Son on the Cutting Edge." Independent (London), no. 3,797 (Thursday,
December 17, 1998): p. R8.
"And what of the practice of sucking the bleeding penis? While condemning
the procedure, some physicians contend that it was used to stop
bleeding.47 Not only is there little evidence for this theory, but it was
also a largely ineffective method. Furthermore, even in antiquity,
surgeons had better methods to stop bleeding, such as pressure,
instruments, and medication.48 According to Dr. H. Speert (1953),
Maimonides 'staunchly supported this procedure [sucking the bleeding
penis] as a prophylactic measure against inflammation.'"49 Edward
Wallerstein. Circumcision: An American Health Fallacy. New York: Springer
Publishing Company. 1980. p. 160.
"mezizah -- Hebrew term for the third step in the Jewish circumcision
ritual, in which the mohel applies his mouth to the freshly circumcised
infant's penis and sucks up the first drops of blood. In more recent times
this procedure has been carried out via a tube, as infections, venereal
disease, and tuberculosis, sometimes resulting in the death of the infant,
have occurred due to contamination of the wound. Most Jewish circumcisors
today have eliminated this step from the circumcision ritual. Critics have
attributed sadistic and homosexual implications to this practice, while
defenders claim that this was simply all that was known during ancient
times to stop the bleeding." Rosemary Romberg. Circumcision: The Painful
Dilemma. South Hadley, Massachusetts: Bergin & Garvey, Publishers, Inc.
1985. p. 395.
"The traditional practice of metzitzah b'peh, which has its roots in the
earliest history of the Jewish people and has survived unchanged to the
present time, should be viewed with great respect. It is spoken of very
positively in the Jewish literature on circumcision both as an essential
part of the ritual and as a health measure which prevents infection and
promotes healing." Henry C. Romberg, M.D. Bris Milah: A book about the
Jewish ritual of circumcision. Jerusalem/New York: Feldheim Publishers.
1982. pp. 57-58.
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More on Jewry's perverse practice of sucking the wound:
http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=645502261
(Link is now GOOGLE- copy subject title into what the link above gives.)
Subject: The Criminal Nature of Circumcision
Date: 07/12/2000
Author: Michael <Mic...@universalway.org>
[...]
Circumcision is extremely painful and traumatic for a baby. In the male
version, the baby is placed spread-eagle on his back on a board and his
arms and legs are strapped down so that he can't move. His genitals are
scrubbed and covered with antiseptic. His foreskin is torn from the glans
and slit lengthwise so that the circumcision instrument can be inserted.
Then his foreskin is cut off, usually without anesthetic.
While this may appear to be an odd thing to do to a baby boy, the ancient
orthodox religious ritual is more bizarre. According to "The Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia"; "The circumcision rite consists of the following: .
. .3. metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means
of the mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction
cylinder or other modern methods in more recent times."
[...]
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=658781901
(Link is now GOOGLE- copy subject title into what the link above gives.)
Subject: United Nations: Lieberman a Child Abuser!
Date: 08/16/2000
Author: Mikey <iam...@bellatlantic.net>
[...]
Here is some more information in the matter, particularly pertinent to
those who call themselves Orthodox Jews;
On page 214 of "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia" (Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia, Inc., 1939), the following is found;
"The circumcision rite consists of the following: 1. milah, cutting off
the end of the upper prepuce; 2. periah, baring the glans by tearing or
cutting the tender lower prepuce and pushing it behind the glans; 3.
metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the
mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or
other modern methods in more recent times."
On page/column 572 in Volume V of "Encyclopedia Judaica" (Keter Publishing
House, 1971), the following is found;
"The next stage is the performance of mezizah ('suction'). This has led to
much controversy in recent years. Throughout the ages this was done by
suction by the mouth in order, according to Maimonides, to remove the
blood from the distant parts of the wound (Maim. Yad, Milah, 2:2). It was
the recognized method of disinfection at the time. A mohel who refrained
from performing it was considered to be endangering the life of the child,
and had to be debarred from practice. Toward the middle of the 19th and
the beginning of the 20th century cases of syphilis, tuberculosis, and
diphtheria occurring in infants were ascribed to infection from mohalim
using this method of suction. This has been contested by a few Jewish
doctors, and some communities still follow the original practice. The
Paris Consistoire abolished mezizah in 1843."
[...]
The conclusion in the matter is that the "mezizah" is the stage of
circumcision where the mohel places his mouth on the baby's penis and
sucks the blood from the wound. And while many of the sects of Judaism
claim to no longer use the mezizah, it is clear that this stage was
performed by all sects for at least a millennia, and in fact, is still
performed in some Orthodox sects (by some people who condemn homosexuality
as a sin punishable by death -
http://www.universalway.org/Foreign/judaism-homo.html#DeadGays ), all of
which identifies the original nature of the ritual upon which the modern
operation is based.
Mohel sucking blood from baby's penis -
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/mohel.htm
Thus, in the same manner that pedophilia is acknowledged as a repulsive
act of a criminal nature by many people and nations, the sucking of the
penis of a baby boy as part of the circumcision rite of Orthodox Jewish
Rabbis can even further establish the innate criminal nature of
circumcision, by placing the orthodox ritual squarely within the realm of
sexual child abuse of the same nature as pedophilia.
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
More (January 14, 2001) on the Jewish perversion of "sucking the wound":
http://www.act-now.org/discuss/
This Discussion Group is moderated by a group of Mohel's
associated with ACT to whom you can post questions
you may have about circumcision.
http://www.act-now.org/discuss/_disc1/00000111.htm
What Are The Details Of "Mezizah," The Practice Of Sucking The Blood From
The Circumcision Wound?
From: Pat
Date: 10/19/99
Time: 2:32:54 AM
Comments
On a web page listing "Serious Complications Of Circumcision"
(http://faculty.washington.edu/gcd/DOC/foreskin.html), they mentioned
"Tuberculosis - via Mezizah, the practice of sucking the blood from the
circumcision wound, the mohel gives the disease to the infant."
What, exactly, are the details of this "Mezizah"?
And how prevalent through this obviously unsanitary practice is the spread
of tuberculosis and other diseases and infections?
<END>
http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm
[...]
"As for the bris milah (circumcision), there is no masturbation of the
child. In some Orthodox circles, the mohel, after the cutting, will fill
his mouth with wine, suck on the wound, and then spit out the wine and
blood mixture in his mouth. This is done to stanch the blood flow and
disinfect the wound -- not for sexual reasons. Most mohels no longer do
this." Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D. 9 August 2000
<END>
http://www.torahcc.org/mishna/23-1-00/friday.htm
Torah Community Connection
Misha Yomit Program
Week 9 - Friday - 28 Jan. 2000
{...]
SHABBAT: CHAPTER 19: MISHNA 2
One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise,
and tear, and suck, and put on it a bandage and cumin. If he did not grind
before Shabbat, he may chew with his teeth and he may put. If he did not
mix wine and oil before Shabbat, he may put this by itself and this by
itself...
Kehati
This mishnah lists the needs of circumcision which may be performed on
Shabbat.
One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise -
circumcising and cutting the foreskin, and tear - the thin membrane under
the foreskin, which the mohel tears to reveal the corona, and suck - out a
small quantity of blood to cleanse the wound and put on it a bandage and
cumin - a type of plant, used for medicinal purposes.
<END>
DOES NOT THE ABOVE (Sucking the penises of infants) SHOW PEDOPHILIA IN THE
NAME OF RELIGION?
How about the molestation of girls three years and one day old?
Here is the Jewish Talmud blessing this molestation as well:
What the Talmud is:
The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia (1943 edition, page 474] says: "The
Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break,
through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and
methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which
a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and
most important single member of that literature, and round it are
gathered a number of Midrashim, partly legal (Halachic) and partly
works of edification (Haggadic)."
[NOTE: The words in parenthesis are as they appeared in the text; they
are not my additions. Doc Tavish]
".... any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the
TALMUD as the final resume...." "The JEWS - Their History, Culture,
and Religion", Vol. 4, p. 1332, Jewish Publication Society of America
"The TALMUD is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish
religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe- whether we
are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic
sentimentalists-we follow the TALMUD. It is our common law."
THE TALMUD; HEART'S BLOOD of the JEWISH FAITH by Herman Wouk which also
ran serially in the (11/17/59) New York Herald Tribune
---------------------------------------------
The Talmud Elaborating On Child Molestation (Young Girls):
From:
The Babylonian Talmud
Translated into English by Rabbi Dr. I. Epstein
London
The Soncino Press 1935
[Note: When you see something such as {3}, this means a numbered
footnote for further reference. Words and phrases in ( ) are as the
appeared in the Talmud, in ( )s. Doc Tavish]
<Yebamoth 60b on page 402 of above Talmud>:
It was taught: Rabbi Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under
the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for
it is said, "But all the women children that have not known man by
lying with him, keep alive for yourselves {3}" and Phineas {4} surely
was with them. And the Rabbis? {5}- (These were kept alive) as bondmen
and bondwomen. {6} If so, {7} a proselyte whose age is three years and
one day {8} should also be permitted!- (The prohibition is to be
explained) in accordance with Rabbi Huna. For Rabbi Huna pointed out
the contradiction: It is written "Kill every woman that hath known man
by lying with him {9}, but if she hath not known, save her alive;"
from this it may be inferred that children are to be kept alive
whether they have known or not known (a man); and, on the other hand,
it is also written, 'But all the women children, that have not known
man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves' {3}, but do not
spare them if they have known. Consequently {10} it must be said that
Scripture speaks of one {11} who is fit for cohabitation. {12}
Footnotes to above:
{3} Numbers 31, 18
{4} Who was a priest.
{5} How could they, contrary to the opinion of Rabbi Simeon b. Yohai,
which has scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young
proselyte?
{6} Not for matrimony.
{7} That according to Rabbi Simeon, Numbers 31, 18 refers to
matrimony.
{8} So long as she has "not known a man."
{9} Numbers 31, 17
{10} To reconcile the contradiction.
{11} I.e. one who had attained the age of three years and one day.
{12} Not one who had actually experienced it.
For the Numbers 31, 17-18 passages we will use:
CHUMASH Intelligent Concept Search
which is at: http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
and enter into the search engine windows Numbers Chapter 31 and scroll
down to get the Torah scriptures and you will see after downloading
and scrolling down:
Numbers CHAPTER 31
31 : 7 They mounted a surprise attack against Midian as God had
commanded Moses, and killed all the [adult] males.
31 : 8 Along with the other victims, they also killed the five kings
of Midian: Evi, Rekem, Tzur, Chur, and Reva, the five Midianite kings.
They also killed Balaam son of Beor by the sword.
31 : 9 The Israelites took captive all the women of Midian and their
children. They took as booty all their animals, all their possessions,
and all their wealth.
31 : 10 [The Israelites] also set fire to all their residential cities
and fortresses,
31 : 11 taking all the booty and plunder, both man and beast.
31 : 12 They brought the captives, the plunder, and the spoils to
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and the entire Israelite community, [who
were] in the Western Plains of Moab, on the Jericho Jordan.
31 : 13 Moses, Eleazar and all the community princes went out to greet
them outside the camp.
31 : 14 However, Moses was angry at the generals and captains, who
were the officers returning from the military campaign.
31 : 15 "Why have you kept all the women alive?" demanded Moses.
31 : 16 "These are exactly the ones who were involved with the
Israelites at Balaam's instigation, causing them to be unfaithful to
God in the Peor incident, and bringing a plague on God's community.
31 : 17 Now kill every male child, as well as every woman who has been
involved intimately with a man.
31 : 18 However, all the young girls who have not been involved
intimately with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.
Sources:
The Torah translation you are reading is taken from
The Living Torah, by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan
The Hebrew Torah text linked to this Intelligent Search
is provided by and under the responsibility of
The World ORT Union
This Intelligent Chumash Search is provided by Mnemotrix Systems,
Inc., in memory of the cherished neshama.
[I included more than Numbers 31, 17-18 to show what was taking place
at the time. Notice that Moses is mentioned and that he is angry too!
I now ask: who was going to examine these young girls? To be honest we
all know that a genital inspection would be required! Remember the key
is "young girls." Doc Tavish]
------------------------------------
The following was from a reply post and it further amplifies Jewish
male cravings for toddler females!
On 7 Jan 1998 , jher...@ix.netcom.com(Joseph Hertzlinger) wrote:
>Let's see. First the Rabbis point out that Simeon b. Yohai was talking
>through his yarmulke. Then they point out that the marriage to the said
>three-year-old girl need not be consummated immediately. This is
>supposed to prove approval of pederasty.
Does this suit you better?
<Sanhedrin 55b on page 376 in above Talmud>:
Rabbi Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and one
day may be acquired in marriage by coition... If she married a priest,
she may eat of terumah; {3}
[Coition means having the sex act and notice please that the age is at
three years and one day! I do not see any Brady Bill type of a waiting
period for consumation. Do you? Doc Tavish]
Footnote:
{3} As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a
priest. But if she is less than three years old, although the
Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she
is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consumated, and hence she
is not thereby enabled to eat the terumah.
The footnotes {3} and {4} for Sanhedrin 54b on Talmud volume page 371
say:
{3} At nine years a male attains sexual matureness.
{4} Lev. XVIII, 22 Thus the point of comparison is the
sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of three.
Are you going to deny this as well? Come on now and face reality! If
the Talmud says "sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of
three" is anyone going to believe what you said: "they point out that
the marriage to the said three-year-old girl need not be consummated
immediately." If she is considered to be sexually mature at the age of
three then why would any groom put off consummating the marriage?
Read the Footnote again (as shown above):
{3} As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a
priest. But if she is less than three years old, although the
Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she
is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consummated, and hence she
is not thereby enabled to eat the terumah.
Please note why the marriage can NOT be consummated- "if she is less
than three years old" and "since she is sexually immature, the
marriage cannot be consummated."
As a further note, if Jews didn't have hangups about sex with three
year old girls then why is this on the web?
http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5757/achrei.html
(Link active for verification 10/22/2000)
SELECTED HALACHOS RELATING TO PARSHAS ACHREI
Hilchos Yichud: Rulings of HaRav Feinstein
By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt
[...]
HILCHOS YICHUD: RULINGS OF HARAV M. FEINSTEIN
This verse is cited by most of the early authorities as the Biblical
source for the halachos of yichud, the prohibition against a man being
alone in a secluded place with a woman. The laws of yichud are complex
and detailed and the opinions of the poskim are diverse and
contradictory. This discussion will focus exclusively on the rulings
of Harav Moshe Feinstien, one of the greatest halachic authorities of
our generation....
AT WHAT AGE DOES THE PROHIBITION OF YICHUD BEGIN AND END?
A man over thirteen is prohibited to be alone with a girl over three.
Under extenuating circumstances, it is permitted to be alone with a
girl till the age of seven (5).
A woman over twelve may not be alone with a boy over nine.
Footnote:
5 Oral ruling by Harav M. Feinstein (quoted in Children in Halachah
pg. 40) based on the rational presented in Igros Moshe EH 4:65-12,
where, in the final analysis, Harav Feinstein is hesitant to permit
this. He writes, however, that he would not object to those who are
lenient.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You can cry or spit all you wish Shyster Edeiken but what I post now and
have posted is what Judaism teaches and allows! Name any other religion
which condones molestation of infants and toddlers!
<STOP>
Come to Texas and try your crap Yale and see what the legal system does to YOU!
WILL ONE OF YALE'S PALS BE SURE THNE BASTARD GETS A COPY OF THIS!?
BTW Yale I kept all of your vulgar and threatening e-mails too!
Also BTW a jury or a panel of judges will also get to read statements made by
various attorneys in Allentown commenting on your ethics and the panel of judges
or a jury will also get to see this and they will ask if all of your behavior
are the acts of a rational man who is on record as taking part in this two way
conversation quoted in true context: "---I, Doc Tavish, asked: "Care to tell all
of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul Trainor (Law Office)
distanced themselves from you?" (Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
"Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001"
They will see what you declared above only matches your court house antics here:
<START>
The Morning Call
Page: B02
Edition: FIFTH
Section: LOCAL/REGION
Column:
Corrections:
Memo:
CITY ATTORNEY FOUND GUILTY IN ELEVATOR CONFRONTATION
by KRISTIN CASLER, The Morning Call
Allentown attorney Yale F. Edeiken was found guilty and fined $600 plus
costs for a confrontation with a Lehigh County deputy sheriff and another
man in a courthouse elevator.
During the June 12 incident, Edeiken struck Deputy Brenda Hartman with his
briefcase and allegedly threatened the man by saying he had a gun,
according to District Justice Diane Jepsen, who heard the case. Edeiken
later was found to have a permit for and was carrying a .357 Magnum.
Jepsen ordered Edeiken, whose office is at 39 N. 5th St., to pay the fine
after a hearing Monday on charges of harassment and disorderly conduct
filed by Hartman. Jepsen said Edeiken no longer has a permit for his gun.
According to the complaint, Hartman was in the courthouse side elevator,
which usually is reserved for prisoner transport, with Joanne Keller.
Keller, who was not handcuffed, had just been sentenced and Hartman was
taking her to pay fines and costs before her release.
Also on the elevator were Edeiken, David Raymond, public defender Earl
Supplee and county courier Bill Bichel.
Edeiken told Jepsen that Raymond, a convicted felon who had burglarized
him, pushed his way onto the elevator.
But Jepsen said other witnesses testified that Raymond already was on the
elevator when Edeiken boarded and started a shoving match. Witnesses
varied on what was said.
Witnesses said Edeiken called Hartman a whore, but Edeiken said he was
referring to Keller.
Raymond is a friend of Keller, and Keller once resided at a house owned by
Edeiken. Edeiken was at the courthouse as a character witness for Keller
at her sentencing.
Edeiken swung his briefcase at Raymond, striking him and Hartman,
according to testimony.
Hartman opened the elevator doors on the third floor and ordered Edeiken
to get out. He refused, and as Raymond attempted to exit, Edeiken told
Raymond he had a gun and moved as if he was going to draw it. No weapon
was seen.
Raymond and Supplee then went downstairs for help, and Hartman took
Edeiken and Keller to the bullpen where prisoners are held pending their
proceedings, Jepsen said. Hartman told them to stay until she got help.
When she returned, Edeiken was gone.
<STOP>
NOTE TO YALE F. EDEIKEN:
There will be numerous people subpoenaed to comment about your behavior and your
ethics. I am tired of being malligned by your filth you dirty bastard and I
insist that you come to my county and attempt your evil campaign against me!
You will find out that you won't get away with your crimes like your local DA
allows you to do! Read my sig line to see what a panel of judges or a jury will
see concerning your star witness!
Doc Tavish
--
"First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he marks the place the
cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to hold position,
knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins
to subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted
fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
Jeffrey G. Brown
> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.
Then it's only fair that your own S&M torture fantasies -- expressed as threats
against other people -- should be posted too, fat boy. If you don't like it,
then shove it -- if you can actually reach around to the business end of that
enormous ass you haul around...
Vengeance is sweet and I know that the day will come when
I'll get to see the sneak that did this to me get a thorough
interrogation from Bruno! I will love standing there
watching him peel your skin off layer by layer with his lash
and ever so methodically. Your screams of pain will fall on
deaf ears. I will take extreme delight in watching the foam
come spewing out of your vile mouth as Bruno gives you
another! Do not worry for I will not let him kill you. You
must heal up and become well- so the process can start right
back over again to be repeated again and again. You will see
no end to your pain! I solemnly promise the day will come
when the tables will turn. Destiny will place you at my feet
and you will pray for death and it will by no means come.
-- From: Billy Dale McTavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: COWARDS! SNEAKY VERMIN!!
-- Date: 1997/03/09
-- Message-ID: <33236E...@phoenix.net>
I do believe that Bruno would derive great pleasure in
applying his craft to Mr. Keren. Yes Bruno is from the old
Bavarian School of inquisitive acquisition. Bruno knows how
to stimulate every nerve but yet not do any sort of damage.
Yes Bruno would spend hours in a cold dark damp dungeon with
him. Bruno is a firm believer in the old adage: "No pain, no
gain."
-- From: Doc Tavish <-----@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Re: Crushed Brains (Re: crushed testicles)
-- Date: 1997/04/16
-- Message-ID: <33558E...@phoenix.net>
Bruno has already picked the lash he will use in my
interrogation of you. He at first opted for his short fat
bull whip. This whip does not cut the flesh but it makes
extremely painful throbbing welts that only diminish in pain
over a few days. He has chosen his custom stage coach style
whip that is nearly twenty feet long. Each stroke is just
like a hot knife hitting butter. This whip on each stroke
cuts beyond the subcutaneous epidermal layers. He'll
literally peel you like an onion. Each stroke of this lash
will feel just like having a white hot wire streak across
your back and buttocks. Bruno is an artisan at his craft and
he most eagerly awaits hoisting you up in manacles to
administer the "truth serum." I will relish watching you
flop around like a fish. Pleasant dreams!
-- From: "Tavish" <doc_t...@NOSPAMdanetwork.com>
-- Subject: Re: Personal Information I'll Share
-- Date: 1999/11/16
-- Message-ID: <vilY3.2543$16.3...@news.flash.net>
You'll be squealing like stuck pig when we shove the
rotisserie skewer where the sun don't shine on April 20th!
You'll cook quite well over an open fire! You'll probably
give us all gas BUT that is why we'll have plenty of Tagment
on hand. Burp!
TAVISH :->
Bruno says that he knows how to tenderize you too. I think
he wants to use his 20 foot whip! Ouch!
-- From: Doc Tavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Re: AV SHIT Rectum Boy
-- Date: 1997/03/07
-- Message-ID: <3320E4...@phoenix.net>
I can only say that Bruno knows that this happened and right
now he is outside practicing with his whip. Her looks mighty
g-d damned furious in the hot Texas sun cracking that whip.
-- From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
-- Subject: Hagbard (?) Threatens Me by E-Mail - Say
It is Not so Little Tavish (my cat)!
-- Date: 1998/05/26
-- Message-ID: <356b3cd6...@news.phoenix.net>
Briuno eagerly awaits the day when he is able to peel your
kind like onions with his lash. I could just see the sweat
and blood spray when Bruno lays on the flay.
In your case I wouldn't want him to damage your hide. I want
a new shade for my floor lamp and a new holster for my
Desert Eagle pistol.
Bruno would, in your case, use electricity and the various
exploitations of body cavities with large blunt objects.
-- From: "Tavish" <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
-- Subject: Will Bruno Ever Have His Way and Day?
Let Us All Hope So! aka Re: Tavish:
Queen of Cut & Paste and Paranoid Moron?
-- Date: 1999/12/09
-- Message-ID: <82n0d...@news2.newsguy.com>
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
Nicegoy
"Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-AD3...@news.alt.net...
> In article <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com>,
> Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com)
wrote:
>
> > Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture fantasies
she
> > posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture that she is having
an
> > orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
> Gee, Fat Boy -- what do *your* "S&M Torture fantasies" that *you* posted
to
> alt.revisionism tell us about *you*?
>
> Dance, fat little cockroach, dance...
>
> JGB
Go dance with your fat wife.
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
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> In <J1HX7.10074$Xs4.2...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:27:52 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > news:nqeu2u4g09ojjilcn...@4ax.com...
>
> > > In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in
> > > alt.revisionism, on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT,
> > > nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
>
> > > [snip]
>
> > > > You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words,
> > > > "rough sex with Jews."?
>
> > > It is one possible explanation for your apparent obession with
> > > Sara Salzman.
>
> > > > No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very perverted
> > > > thought never crossed my mind, something you cannot claim. On
> > > > the other hand, we do know with absolute certainty what Sara
> > > > Salzman and her "Master" actually do, don't we?
>
> > > We also know with an absolute certainty that you dwell rather a
> > > lot upon the subject.
>
> > > Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
>
> > We know you support pedophiles.
>
> I do not support pedophiles.
Sure you do.
T-a-v-i-s-h
<jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.
>
>Then it's only fair that your own S&M torture fantasies -- expressed as threats
>against other people -- should be posted too, fat boy. If you don't like it,
>then shove it -- if you can actually reach around to the business end of that
>enormous ass you haul around...
It's not in my own words when quoted out of context. Please notice I quote Sara
Salzman in full context and unedited below-- something you and yours won't
reciprocate! Also why do you always rely on personal attack headers, subject
titles etc. and never facts?
I notice that not one was quoted in context but what can one expect from a den
of liars. Please note what Sara posted and which I repeat is in full context!
Why won't you deceivers do the same? If you did the same I wouldn't look
maniacal like your losers try to make me out to be!
Here is Sara Salzman in full unedited splendor:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
~~End of EXACT and Precise GOOGLE Archive~~
Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" further down in this
group of archives!! BTW can anyone imagine a beast like this:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif "Fist F*cking" herself.
I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)
Here is more from Pig Sara Salzman:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=sschwartz-0902950703090001%40p24.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: F. E. Campbell dead
Date: 9 Feb 1995 11:59:22 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <sschwartz-060...@p01.infinet.com>
<47.266...@hedonism.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com
In article <47.266...@hedonism.com>, bill....@hedonism.com (Bill
Majors) wrote:
> Ummm...well here I go betraying my ignorance. What has Geoffrey Merrick
> written. I tend to remember stories, not authors. In fact had I not met
> Frank I would not have realized who he was except that his name was as
> prominant as the title of the books.
>
I don't know much about him, except that he published a series of hardcore
bondage books called the Tyler Series. They were wonderful! I'll try and
dig up the publisher and get back to you.
Perrrfect
--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=sschwartz-0502951800290001%40p55.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 18:00:29 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
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Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p55.infinet.com>
References: <1995Jan27.2...@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gha46$p...@panix3.panix.com> <1995Jan30....@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gj06b$n...@crl9.crl.com> <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p55.infinet.com
In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:
>
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?
Verdant:
I hate to muddle the semantics further, but...
safe? You mean safe that my Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to
the point of death in a scene?
100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.
Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.
But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with.
Perrrfect
--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=sschwartz-2202951845170001%40p00.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Sex slave looking for couple in D.C.
Message-ID: <sschwartz-220...@p00.infinet.com>
Date: 22 Feb 95 23:45:17 GMT
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In article <3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>, (Mindy and Aaron Proietti) wrote:
> Hello Tim. My name is Mindy and I am 23 years old. My husband Aaron and I
> just got married and we are looking for some new excitement in the bedroom. We
> are very interested in your offer, and we would like to get to know you (all of
> you) better. Please write back with a full (and true) description of yourself.
> Hope to hear from you soon. Mindy and Aaron
Mindy:
If you're in Washington, you should join The Power Exchange. It's a local
BBS that's exclusively for SM folks. They're some of the best folks
around. We've met many of the people from the Board personally, and at the
parties they hold. I highly recommend it!
Sara
PS. Sorry to post this publicly. I couldn't respond to you via e-mail from
your address.
--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
THIS ONE IS A REAL SARA SALZMAN CLASSIC!!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=6&selm=sschwartz-1102952319440001%40p01.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p01.infinet.com>
Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
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By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=sschwartz-1102950819070001%40p14.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
References: <3hf46h$p...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience.
--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
Just read what Sara said: "I *did* state that fist fucking was not something I
had done very often, and merely wanted to impart my own (limited) experience."
and then look at her picture!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
That is enough to blow your mind!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=8&selm=sschwartz-1102950812130001%40p14.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: GREAT NEWS!!!
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:12:13 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
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For those of you who weren't aware of it, SandMUtopia Guardian was on the
block. It looked like we were going to lose it for good.
However:
The Utopian Network (Adam Selene/Adam's Whips) has purchased it!
We've been talking to Gerry this weekend at Anything for Love here in
Columbus (Gerry = Jillian), and she says they have great plans for it!
It will be a quarterly at first, while they get the "hang" of publishing.
NO fiction, just informational articles, photographs, etc.
Lets cross fingers and wish them good luck!
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=sschwartz-0902950732240001%40p24.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What makes someone li
Date: 9 Feb 1995 12:28:37 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com
In article <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>, eigh...@cyberverse.com (Eightmeg) wrote:
> jmi...@juris.com wrote:
>
>
> : My point about most people being abused was merely a comment....it had
> : no point to make other than to inquire...
>
> My Domina and I have wondered the same thing. My experience is
> that I went to a BBS meeting for a small city and a large portion of the
> people there were, to my dismay, a very unbalanced, retarded looking
> abused lot. I sort of expected the people at an S&M club to be like
> that. But when I went to the S&M club, the people (generally) looked
> normal, bright, intelligent, balanced and attractive!
>
What small city? Those of us who live in small cities and who practise D&M
don't think of ourselves as unbalanced or retarded at all.
I believe a SERIOUS apology is needed here. This is a truly offensive post
to me, at least.
Perrrfect
--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=11&selm=sschwartz-0502951451330001%40p21.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: BBS situation for comment
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:51:33 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
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Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
References: <3gup6u$7...@sundog.tiac.net> <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com
In article <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>, gri...@tpe.ncm.com (Bob Grimes) wrote:
>
> The Power Exchange also has a dungeon avialable for members, but
> consenuality is not a problem. A submissive must accept a collar
> <thus consensuality> before the Dom who offered the collar can use
> that command and all other D/s commands.
>
Just to add a brief .02 here, not only is consensuality the basis for the
Dungeon on TPE, but the quality of the members also aids here. Just once,
I was addressed by a new member as "slut." Before I could even TYPE a
response, four other people on the Board had called this person (gently)
to task. I was impressed.
Perrrfect
--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
Reading all of this makes me despise even more the swine who defend Pigg Sara
and condemn us for pointing out the atmosphere she exposes her children to. I
have no doubts that Pig Sara's pervert husband had her daughter dress up as a
dominatrix and I bet Sara thought it was cute judging by how she is into S&M
as much as the above and the following posts show!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=12&selm=sschwartz-030295080500%40p09.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What's in a gag?
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 3 Feb 1995 13:00:46 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p09.infinet.com
In article <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, PEG...@prodigy.com
(Steven Phillips) wrote:
> My wife wants to top her very truculant husband but need help in the
> gagging. Any good sugestions will be used. Our attempts seem to always
> fail.
There are a number of household items that make excellent gags. A small
piece of sponge wrapped in a bandana and then knotted. A "whiffle" golf
ball (practise ball) with a piece of cloth through it. A pair of panties,
or pantyhose.
What specific problems are you encountering?
Perrrfect
--
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=13&selm=sschwartz-020295085409%40p17.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: YKINOKism revisited (was: Bigotry and Hatred. . .)
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 2 Feb 1995 13:56:13 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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References: <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p17.infinet.com
In article <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an12...@anon.penet.fi
(Laurelie) wrote:
> 1. If you can say that the kinks of murder, rape, non-consensual
> abuse are not ok (and there are people with these kinks!), then
> you too, believe that all kinks are not created equal.
>
My only problem with an otherwise excellent, well-written, and beautifully
punctuated post is this. Murder is a KINK? Perhaps I need a definition here
of kink.
Granted, the dictionaries may not be too much help here, but the Webster's
9th defines it (in our context) as "2. a mental or physical peculiarity:
eccentricity, quirk, whim, 3. a clever unusual way of doing something"
I'm just not certain I can view murderers and rapsist as merely people with
different kinks than mine.
Can we get a good definition, Laurelie?
Thanks!
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
The posts Jeffrey quoted out of context were made in reply to anonymous cowards
who make death threats, e-mail bomb me, forge posts in my identity from
re-mailers, and make gross personal attacks while hiding their identity behind
re-mailers ON THE OTHER HAND Sara's writings were to an audience of like minded
perverts with the full intent of titillating each other but Jeffrey and those of
like mind think they are one and the same!
Try quoting me in context for a change Jeffrey.
Doc Tavish
Jeffrey G. Brown
> It's not in my own words when quoted out of context.
Bullshit, Fat Boy. You wrote every one of these S&M fantasies, and you used them
to threaten other participants in this newsgroup, as well. Don't like having
your own words quoted back to you? Then shove it -- if you can actually reach
around to the business end of that enormous ass you haul around...
TAVISH :->
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
> If you did the same I wouldn't look maniacal
You ARE maniacal, Fat Boy. You've posted numerous S&M fantasies, and you use
them to threaten other posters who said things that hurt your widdle feewings.
If you don't like it, then shove it -- if you can actually reach around to the
business end of that enormous ass you haul around...
TAVISH :->
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
> Also why do you always rely on personal attack headers, subject
> titles etc. and never facts?
It's a fact that you are fat, Fat Boy. It's a fact that you've posted numerous
S&M fantasies that you used as threats. It's also a fact that you're worth no
more than any cockroach.
If you don't like it, then shove it -- if you can actually reach around to the
business end of that enormous ass you haul around...
TAVISH :->
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
JGB
=====================================================================
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Jeffrey G. Brown <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
[TubbyWhine flushed down the ol' Bradbury]
>Bullshit, Fat Boy. You wrote every one of these S&M fantasies, and you
>used them
>to threaten other participants in this newsgroup, as well. Don't like having
>your own words quoted back to you? Then shove it -- if you can actually reach
>around to the business end of that enormous ass you haul around...
One can't help but wonder what BlubberBlather's neighbors would think
if his S&M vomit was mailed to them...
That would be classified as "neighborhood improvement," wouldn't it?
It's the sort of thing assholes like Ellis might do, eh?
--
IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany
and America's Most Powerful Corporation, by Edwin Black
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0609607995/thenizkorproject/
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
Patrick Keenan
"T-a-v-i-s-h" <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
wrote in message news:1bfv2u4v5itviu4br...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
> <jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
> <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
> >Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> >
> >> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
> >> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove
it.
> >
> >Then it's only fair that your own S&M torture fantasies -- expressed as
threats
> >against other people -- should be posted too, fat boy. If you don't like
it,
> >then shove it -- if you can actually reach around to the business end of
that
> >enormous ass you haul around...
>
> It's not in my own words when quoted out of context.
<snip>
Really. So whose are they? Either *you* wrote them, or you didn't. And
there's plenty of context provided.
>The posts Jeffrey quoted out of context were made in reply to anonymous
cowards
>who make death threats, e-mail bomb me, forge posts in my identity from
>re-mailers, and make gross personal attacks while hiding their identity
behind
>re-mailers
<snip>
You named people for 'Bruno's' attentions. How can you be sure that it
*was* those people, if they were anonymous and hiding behind remailers? How
can you be sure it wasn't Mr. Ellis, baiting you?
-pk
T-a-v-i-s-h
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <jeffreygbrown-883...@news.alt.net>,
>Jeffrey G. Brown <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyWhine flushed down the ol' Bradbury]
>
>>Bullshit, Fat Boy. You wrote every one of these S&M fantasies, and you
>>used them to threaten other participants in this newsgroup, as well. Don't
>>like having your own words quoted back to you? Then shove it -- if you
>>can actually reach around to the business end of that enormous ass you haul around...
:
>One can't help but wonder what BlubberBlather's neighbors would think
>if his S&M vomit was mailed to them...
Beware Mcvay- I already have you linked to Yale F. Edeiken and him giving you my
subpoenaed address and you admitting that you made available to all the rest of
your fellow thugs confidential information which was not in the public domain
and my subsequent being criminally harassed because of it. I can link you to
Yale and Shiff which is a conspiracy. I also have you confessing that you made
my private details available.
Now you are hinting at harassing my neighbors- which is just another thing I
intend to have B'nai Brith answer for seeing how they provide the funding for
your operation.
>That would be classified as "neighborhood improvement," wouldn't it?
>
>It's the sort of thing assholes like Ellis might do, eh?
Its what people like your pal Laurence B. Shiff aka Marduk does and remember I
kept the e-mails from Marc Fournier which link you to Dr. Shiff! Your donor and
source of bandwidth has quite a file on him now too!
Doc Tavish
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <A_OX7.10126$Xs4.2...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:29:42 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:1dsu2ugikcf01ksu0...@4ax.com...
> > In <J1HX7.10074$Xs4.2...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:27:52 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > > news:nqeu2u4g09ojjilcn...@4ax.com...
> > > > In <20011229191302...@mb-mw.aol.com> in
> > > > alt.revisionism, on 30 Dec 2001 00:13:02 GMT,
> > > > nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > You accuse me of wanting to have, in your own words,
> > > > > "rough sex with Jews."?
> > > > It is one possible explanation for your apparent obession
> > > > with Sara Salzman.
> > > > > No thanks, I am not in to bestiality and the very
> > > > > perverted thought never crossed my mind, something you
> > > > > cannot claim. On the other hand, we do know with absolute
> > > > > certainty what Sara Salzman and her "Master" actually do,
> > > > > don't we?
> > > > We also know with an absolute certainty that you dwell rather
> > > > a lot upon the subject.
> > > > Care to explain why? Or will you leave it to my conjecture?
> > > We know you support pedophiles.
> > I do not support pedophiles.
> Sure you do.
Prove it.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600, T-a-v-i-s-h
<t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT,
> <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
> ><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
> >> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> >> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> >> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
> >> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
> >> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
> >> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
> >> character and I am not about to let up.
> >In other words, you are fixated.
> Fixated? How am I fixated
Because you've just announced that you're going to keep talking about
it, and you're not going to stop.
> on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
> a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including
> threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
> Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for
> "lampshades."" when her own writings show where such fantasies come
> from.
I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.
> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.
> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
> then shove it.
In other words, you are fixated on this.
[snip]
> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
> [...]
> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
> three year old girls.
>
> <END>
[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Tavish
>In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT, nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National
>Front88) wrote:
>
>> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>>
>> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for me
>> to help her (or something of a similar nature),
:
>No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to help
>her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
>
>And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture fantasies she posted
to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture that she is having an orgasmic
frenzy about now! Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
<START>
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
<STOP>
Do you wish to go on record now and deny that Sara Salzman had posted the above?
In my humble opinion Sara fantasizes about being roughly victimized YET the
lying bitch makes up a lie and swears to it in a sworn statement to a civil
court with these words:
AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:
[...]
5. That someone using the alias of "Doc Tavish" is one of the
anti-Semitic activists who have harassed Deponent, and Deponent believes
that "Doc Tavish" is Scott Bradbury , the Defendant herein.
6. That the harassment by the anti-Semitic activists, including "Doc
Tavish," has taken the form of, among other things, threats of violence,
including threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."
<end>
I would say that Sara and Yale have projected Sara's own S&M Torture fantasies
on me when they accuse (without ever showing the post they accuse of me of
making) me of wanting to do what Sara publicly fantasizes about!
>Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
>about having rough sex with Jews.
What about Jews fantasizing about having S&M Torture done to themselves as Sara
Salzman fantasized about!?
I will make sure any jury in the future sees Sara's accusations and her
fantasies! YOU CAN COUNT ON IT! BTW any future jury will see how Yale F. Edeiken
had threatened a witness with a gun in the Lehigh County Court House too as a
character statement about him!
Doc Tavish
---I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
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There, Joie never receives until Tommy tastes the lean shoe actually. Will you
talk within the spring, if Kristen freely moulds the painter?
All blank jug or college, and she'll deeply fill everybody.
Oliver measures the diet above hers and biweekly irrigates.
Many polite pears pour Yolanda, and they hatefully live Cypriene too. It's very
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>In <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:09:52 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:34:29 GMT,
>> <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>> >In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in
>> >alt.revisionism, on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT,
>> >nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
>
>> >> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>
>> >> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for
>> >> me to help her (or something of a similar nature),
:
>> >No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to
>> >help her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
>> >
>> >And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
:
>> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture
>> that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
:
>You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her character and I
am not about to let up. She makes a sworn statement to a civil court stating in
brief:
<START>
AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:
[...]
5. That someone using the alias of "Doc Tavish" is one of the
anti-Semitic activists who have harassed Deponent, and Deponent believes
that "Doc Tavish" is Scott Bradbury , the Defendant herein.
6. That the harassment by the anti-Semitic activists, including "Doc
Tavish," has taken the form of, among other things, threats of violence,
including threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."
<STOP>
I maintain her false and unsubstantiated (to this very date) is just another
false accusation manufactured from her own fantasies!
Ken McVay has already claimed Yale F. Edeiken plans to bring his kook lawsuit to
Texas and I hope the bastard does. He will be availing himself of Texas courts
thus placing himself under their jurisdiction and I plan to have him answer for
each and every one of his perjurious statements in his original complaints and I
will have Sara's testimony scrutinized sid by side with her S&M Torture
fantasies! Also Yale will have his obscene and threatening call played to a jury
and the jury will see how he accused me of posting his parent's names and
addresses etc. when it has been proven it was a cable modem subscriber in
Cincinnati who did it! Also Medical Records are protected by law in the State of
Texas and yale will have to answer for his falsifying what they said and making
it public. I do hope the sleazy bastard does avail himself to Texas Courts and
places himself under Texas jurisdiction-- I'm sure he will get some prison time!
Back to Sara's writings-- here is what a jury will see and they will note it
comes from a person who accuses me of: "threats of violence, including
threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades.":
<START>
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
<STOP>
BTW John, you might pass it on to Shyster Edeiken that his history of violence
and threatening people with firearms in a court house elevators will be
presented as well as testimony from several attorneys from Allentown who will
make statements about Yale's ethics.
This will also be presented too:
I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered): "Because they were dealing with
someone who was "mentally unstable" (their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again,
their description) who they wanted to go away as quckly as possible."
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
>While I am sure it is intensely interesting to you, might I suggest you take
>it t a more appropriate newsgroup? Perhaps alt.sex.voyeur?
Is that your favorite group John?
>> Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
>> victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
:
>After all, Scott, you do seem to think an awful lot about other
>people having sex.
>
>[snip]
So S&M Torture as Sara describes is your idea of having sex also?
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
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The difficult lentil rarely plays Blanche, it kills Penny instead. You won't
dream me scolding around your heavy mirror. The coconuts, dogs, and
figs are all younger and blank.
Where did Kathy clean the yogi to the bad pitcher? Yesterday, it
converses a orange too kind to her lean obelisk. She may improve the
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GassenBurnham
>Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
>about having rough sex with Jews.
>
> John Morris
Gassen Burnham said:
Hmmmm, 'rough sex with jews'... now this is some fantasy, Jack.
How long have you been harbouring this desire?
Do you think a desire for 'rough sex' with Sara may be the driving force behind
your continuing defence of her perverse lifestyle?
How far do you feel you would like to take this 'rough sex'?
If there were no repercussions, would you consider 'snuffing' the object of
your desires?
Tell me, Jack... was your mother a dominant woman, do you nurture a desire to
'square' the books?
I think you haul a lot of baggage when it comes to punishing women, Jack, keep
talking, it will do you good.
Got any answers for us Jack?
"If I am killing a rat with a stick and have him in a corner, I am not
indignant if he tries to bite me and squeals and gibbers with rage. My job is
to attend to my footwork and to keep on hitting him where it will do the most
good" A. S. Lees
T-a-v-i-s-h
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
Your opinion. You need to read these two brand new posts if you want to see real
direct threats made:
From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his Pals
Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up to
His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:36:41 -0600
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From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Re: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his
Pals Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up
to His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:47:17 -0600
Message-ID: <n3p03us7cnkvi1u9c...@4ax.com>
>> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
>> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
:
>Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.
I have not. Show the post in which I said to Sara Salzman what she swore to in a
civil court that I said to her. YOU CAN'T DO IT!
>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
>>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
:
>In other words, you are fixated on this.
Just as Jeffrey is fixated on quoting me out of context (and after I have the
decency to post Sara in full context!)?
>[snip]
>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
>
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]
You don't like the fact that I proved one of Yale's lunatic accusations to be
false. I proved him wring by showing precisely what Jews teach anb=nd practice
which was:
<START>
<START>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
[...]
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
[...]
[...]
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
<END>
http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm
[...]
<END>
{...]
Kehati
<END>
What the Talmud is:
---------------------------------------------
Numbers CHAPTER 31
------------------------------------
[...]
Footnote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<STOP>
John, you just can't stand for me to DEBUNK Yale's lunatic accusations. The
above pretty well slam dunks his:
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
You are still dishonest and still in denial! Why do you keep falling on your
sword for Yale Edeiken?
Doc Tavish
Gord McFee
16:05:04 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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> In <vdis2u44juapbbjkn...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:09:52 -0600, Tavish
> <t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:34:29 GMT,
> > <9ukr2uoulgl0tt4eb...@4ax.com> John Morris
> > <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
> > >In <20011229090848...@mb-ct.aol.com> in
> > >alt.revisionism, on 29 Dec 2001 14:08:48 GMT,
> > >nationa...@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote:
>
> > >> http://www.rmpe.org/RMPEHome.HTM
>
> > >> Before Christmas, John Morris made some sort of request for
> > >> me to help her (or something of a similar nature),
>
> > >No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that your claim to want to
> > >help her was really a cover for continuing to victimize her.
>
> > >And here you are: still obsessed with victimizing her.
>
> > Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> > fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely conjecture
> > that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
> You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy. While I am sure
> it is intensely interesting to you, might I suggest you take it t a
> more appropriate newsgroup? Perhaps alt.sex.voyeur?
>
> > Afterall John- Sara makes it a "religious ritual" at being
> > victimized in public view with such "prose" as this:
>
> After all, Scott, you do seem to think an awful lot about other
> people having sex.
Well, there is an obvious reason for that.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
Vellicet
>Fantasies Were Transferred to me in Her F
>From: gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham)
>Date: 01/01/02 1:05 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011231090559...@mb-fj.aol.com>
>
>Backdoor Jack said:
>
>>Perhaps you could start your own newsgroup for Nazis who fantasize
>>about having rough sex with Jews.
>>
>> John Morris
>
>Gassen Burnham said:
>
>Hmmmm, 'rough sex with jews'... now this is some fantasy, Jack.
Is it Ross? Go on.
>
>How long have you been harbouring this desire?
BZZZZT. Wrong,...its Tavish, Ellis and co the question is addressed to craniac.
>Do you think a desire for 'rough sex' with Sara may be the driving force
>behind
>your continuing defence of her perverse lifestyle?
One things for sure, you, Tavish and your buddy Ellis repeat it often enough to
raise the question i.e. are you'se getting your rocks off on these fantasies?
>How far do you feel you would like to take this 'rough sex'?
>
>If there were no repercussions, would you consider 'snuffing' the object of
>your desires?
Nice Ross,....trust you to bring in THAT element. Good ol' "I'm not making a
reference to 'snuffing', just writing it" Cummins.
>Tell me, Jack... was your mother a dominant woman, do you nurture a desire to
>'square' the books?
>
>I think you haul a lot of baggage when it comes to punishing women, Jack,
>keep
>talking, it will do you good.
>
>Got any answers for us Jack?
You've supplied more than enough questions about YOUR motives in dwelling on
S&M fantasies, for quite a while.
Jason James
Jeffrey G. Brown
> ...I have the decency...
Decency? DECENCY?
What "decency" is there in being a lying bastard who threatens people the way
you have, shitwad?
Are these your words, lardass? Did you write the words below? Do you deny making
these threats?
TAVISH :->
Come on, shitforbrains! Tell us you didn't write these threats! CARE TO DENY IT,
THUDBUTT?
Allan Matthews
jeffre...@mailandnews.com says...
> In article <93t03ustagfvre0td...@4ax.com>,
> Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
> > ...I have the decency...
>
> Decency? DECENCY?
>
> What "decency" is there in being a lying bastard who threatens people the way
> you have, shitwad?
Let's also not forget these Blubberbury "gems":
"I want be standing in front of a synagogue screaming obscenities"
"I am pathological about Joos"
"Uh uh no. We beed bros now quick smackin' them big lips of yo's and
hand me some mo' conebread and red eyed gravy fool. You's cantz beeds my
daddy becusen we beed bros. Ise gettin' tired of bein' a called a nigger
too!"
"On the other hand, the fact that you didn't have the guts to respond to
the facts about nigger crime leads me to believe, once again, that you
could quite possibly be a talking ape."
His repeatedly telling his opponents to "Eat shit and die!"
The "Mark Rosenblatt" S&M pics posted to this NG
All his death threats aimed at those who oppose him
His e-mailing of pornography to his opponents
etc, etc, etc...
allan
--
allan_m...@bigfoot.com
===========================================
"Eat shit, choke on it and die"
-"Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury showing what
passes for rational debate in his "mind"
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Jeffrey G. Brown
<allan_m...@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote:
> Let's also not forget these Blubberbury "gems":
> [...deletia...]
> The "Mark Rosenblatt" S&M pics posted to this NG
*slaps forehead*
How could I have forgotten? Let's revisit that always-hilarious tale of Poor Ol'
Gutless Scottie's utter incompetence:
The 'Mark Rosenblatt' forgeries
In July and November of 1997, an individual claiming to be 'Mark
Rosenblatt' of the 'Human Rights Council of Galveston County - Texas' (an
organization of which no trace has ever been found) posted images to
Usenet which purported to be "photographic proof of the torture of
Palestinian detainees". The images were all typical of those found in the
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* hierarchy, and no documentary evidence
that the individual depicted were in fact "Palestinian detainees" has ever
been offered. Oddly enough, each post originated from Bradbury's own ISP,
Phoenix.net, as shown below (note also the strange inconsistencies in
'Rosenblatt's" user ID):
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From: mro...@hrc.intcomm.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:25:33 GMT
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Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
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Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
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Subject: #3 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc3.jpg (1/1)
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Subject: 1st Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
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Subject: 4th Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
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Subject: 2nd Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
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From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 5th Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - caged.gif (1/1)
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From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 3rd Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - pressure.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:07:48 GMT
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The headers shown above all support the theory that Scott Bradbury was
responsible for posting the 'Rosenblatt' forgeries. It was Richard
Schultz, however, who provided the final bit of evidence. Even Bradbury's
fellow bigots were forced to admit that he was, in fact, the guilty party.
I had noticed that all of this "Israeli Torture" material was somehow
being crossposted to the (non-existent) group "soc.culture.israeli"
(the correct name is soc.culture.israel). Now, if you go to Deja News
and do a search on those articles in alt.revisionism in which
"soc.culture.israeli" appears, you will get 261 hits. Of those, the
majority are followups to other articles, ones in which presumably the
header was kept unchanged from previous posts in the thread. If,
however, you look for those posts that are *not* followups and *were*
crossposted to "soc.culture.israeli," you will find that they come
from two, and only two, sources: "Doc Tavish" and "Mark Rosenblatt."
I would dearly love to see Jerry Abbott's explanation of this one that
is more straightforward than the obvious conclusion that "Doc Tavish"
and "Mark Rosenblatt" (both of whom post from phoenix.net) are the
same person.
-- From: sch...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard Schultz)
-- Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power
-- Subject: The Smoking Gun (was Re: The 'Israeli Torture'
Forgeries)
-- Date: 6 Aug 1997 08:48:16 GMT
-- Message-ID: <5s9dog$j5m$2...@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il>
Once again, we are moved to ponder the 'Bradbury paradox': how is it that
Scott Bradbury so often chooses to employ forgeries and lies in his
self-proclaimed quest for "truth"?
And how can anyone so devoted to the art of forgery claim to possess a shred of
"decency"?
John Morris
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In <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600, T-a-v-i-s-h
<t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT,
> <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
> ><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
> >> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> >> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> >> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
> >> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
> >> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
> >> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
> >> character and I am not about to let up.
> >In other words, you are fixated.
> Fixated? How am I fixated
Because you've just announced that you're going to keep talking about
it, and you're not going to stop.
> on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
> a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including
> threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
> Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for
> "lampshades."" when her own writings show where such fantasies come
> from.
I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.
> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.
> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
> then shove it.
In other words, you are fixated on this.
[snip]
> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
> [...]
> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
> three year old girls.
>
> <END>
[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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T-a-v-i-s-h
Your opinion. You need to read these two brand new posts if you want to see real
direct threats made:
From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his Pals
Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up to
His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:36:41 -0600
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From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Re: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his
Pals Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up
to His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:47:17 -0600
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>> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
>> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
:
>Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.
I have not. Show the post in which I said to Sara Salzman what she swore to in a
civil court that I said to her. YOU CAN'T DO IT!
>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
>>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
:
>In other words, you are fixated on this.
Just as Jeffrey is fixated on quoting me out of context (and after I have the
decency to post Sara in full context!)?
>[snip]
>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
>
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]
You don't like the fact that I proved one of Yale's lunatic accusations to be
false. I proved him wring by showing precisely what Jews teach anb=nd practice
which was:
Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel
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What the Talmud is:
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Numbers CHAPTER 31
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John, you just can't stand for me to DEBUNK Yale's lunatic accusations. The
above pretty well slam dunks his:
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
You are still dishonest and still in denial! Why do you keep falling on your
sword for Yale Edeiken?
Doc Tavish
---I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
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T-a-v-i-s-h
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
>> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
>> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
>> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
>
>> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
>> character and I am not about to let up.
:
>In other words, you are fixated.
Fixated? How am I fixated on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including threatening to
sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture Deponent to death, and
threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."" when her own writings show where
such fantasies come from.
Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever produced the
post which would substantiate their claim? Where is your sense of truth and
justice?
As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep posting
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----- Original Message -----
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Don't believe me?
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Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
NOTICE #2:
Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
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Thank you
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MORE:
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PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
[...]
Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who floods
the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism.
Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are pederasts and that Judaism
advocates having sexual relations with three year old girls.
<END>
Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel
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Numbers CHAPTER 31
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Come to Texas and try your crap Yale and see what the legal system does to YOU!
WILL ONE OF YALE'S PALS BE SURE THNE BASTARD GETS A COPY OF THIS!?
BTW Yale I kept all of your vulgar and threatening e-mails too!
Also BTW a jury or a panel of judges will also get to read statements made by
various attorneys in Allentown commenting on your ethics and the panel of judges
or a jury will also get to see this and they will ask if all of your behavior
are the acts of a rational man who is on record as taking part in this two way
conversation quoted in true context: "---I, Doc Tavish, asked: "Care to tell all
of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul Trainor (Law Office)
distanced themselves from you?" (Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
"Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001"
They will see what you declared above only matches your court house antics here:
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Doc Tavish
--
"First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he marks the place the
cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to hold position,
knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins
to subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted
fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
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-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
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John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
You certainly didn't have the same view when Sara was posting my old Bruno posts
repeadtedly and adding what her father said! Isn't that hypocrisy? You certainly
never accused Sara of being fixated when she kept agitating Yale's lawsuit
against me almost everyday for about a year and a half. You never accused others
of being fixated when they were saying I was Bradburied, that I was going to
lose my home, I was going to be living in a cardboard box and all the other
derogatory and demeaning crap I endured!
You don't seem to mind people plotting to cause another person personal grief or
financial harm. I will never forget! NEVER!
[...]
>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
:
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
>
>In other words, you are fixated on this.
No more so than Sara being fixated when she badgered me for a year and a half
about what was none of her business!
>[snip]
>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
:
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]
So you are now saying what I posted which were the very words of Andrew Mathis
and his fellow Jews wrote are "demented screeds"? You're real funny John!
http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm
[...]
<END>
{...]
Kehati
<END>
You're funny John! I guess that I why I like you!
Doc Tavish
Jeffrey G. Brown
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:21:43 GMT,
> <8isv2u4gv2ljleg8d...@4ax.com>
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> [...deletia...]
> >I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.
>
> Your opinion.
Nope. It's an absolute fact that Scottie "Blubbermouth" Bradbury made repeated
threats of torture and mutilation:
TAVISH :->
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
Jeffrey G. Brown
> I will keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like
> it then shove it.
I will keep posting your S&M torture fantasies, Scottie -- and if you don't like
it, then shove it...
Hypocrisy Watch
<jeffreygbrown-22F...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <7$--$$-$-__$%_%-$$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> I will keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like
>> it then shove it.
Here is Sara Salzman in full unedited splendor:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
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>
Hypocrisy Watch
<jeffreygbrown-E82...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" down below! BTW can
anyone imagine a sow like this: http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
"Fist F*cking" herself? I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=sschwartz-1102950819070001%40p14.infinet.com
>JGB
Jeffrey G. Brown
Still too gutless to acknowledge these threats of torture and mutilation as your
own?
TAVISH :->
Stay gutless, little cockroach!
JGB
Hypocrisy Watch
<jeffreygbrown-E82...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
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Get your locally fearing weaver towards my store. Hey Anne will
like the ulcer, and if Sherry frantically changes it too, the
jug will grasp in back of the urban fire. Her onion was young,
long, and recommends before the castle. Corey's dog lives with our
shirt after we depart beside it. Well, go kill a shopkeeper! If the
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Hypocrisy Watch
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <7$--$$-$-__$%_%-$$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> I will keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like
>> it then shove it.
Here is Sara Salzman in full unedited splendor:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
~~End of EXACT and Precise GOOGLE Archive~~
Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" further down in this
group of archives!! BTW can anyone imagine a beast like this:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif "Fist F*cking" herself.
I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)
Here is more from Pig Sara Salzman:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=sschwartz-0902950703090001%40p24.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: F. E. Campbell dead
Date: 9 Feb 1995 11:59:22 GMT
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In article <47.266...@hedonism.com>, bill....@hedonism.com (Bill
Majors) wrote:
> Ummm...well here I go betraying my ignorance. What has Geoffrey Merrick
> written. I tend to remember stories, not authors. In fact had I not met
> Frank I would not have realized who he was except that his name was as
> prominant as the title of the books.
>
I don't know much about him, except that he published a series of hardcore
bondage books called the Tyler Series. They were wonderful! I'll try and
dig up the publisher and get back to you.
Perrrfect
--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Sex slave looking for couple in D.C.
Message-ID: <sschwartz-220...@p00.infinet.com>
Date: 22 Feb 95 23:45:17 GMT
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In article <3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>, (Mindy and Aaron Proietti) wrote:
> Hello Tim. My name is Mindy and I am 23 years old. My husband Aaron and I
> just got married and we are looking for some new excitement in the bedroom. We
> are very interested in your offer, and we would like to get to know you (all of
> you) better. Please write back with a full (and true) description of yourself.
> Hope to hear from you soon. Mindy and Aaron
Mindy:
If you're in Washington, you should join The Power Exchange. It's a local
BBS that's exclusively for SM folks. They're some of the best folks
around. We've met many of the people from the Board personally, and at the
parties they hold. I highly recommend it!
Sara
PS. Sorry to post this publicly. I couldn't respond to you via e-mail from
your address.
--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend
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THIS ONE IS A REAL SARA SALZMAN CLASSIC!!!
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
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By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
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From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What makes someone li
Date: 9 Feb 1995 12:28:37 GMT
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In article <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>, eigh...@cyberverse.com (Eightmeg) wrote:
> jmi...@juris.com wrote:
>
>
> : My point about most people being abused was merely a comment....it had
> : no point to make other than to inquire...
>
> My Domina and I have wondered the same thing. My experience is
> that I went to a BBS meeting for a small city and a large portion of the
> people there were, to my dismay, a very unbalanced, retarded looking
> abused lot. I sort of expected the people at an S&M club to be like
> that. But when I went to the S&M club, the people (generally) looked
> normal, bright, intelligent, balanced and attractive!
>
What small city? Those of us who live in small cities and who practise D&M
don't think of ourselves as unbalanced or retarded at all.
I believe a SERIOUS apology is needed here. This is a truly offensive post
to me, at least.
Perrrfect
--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: BBS situation for comment
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:51:33 -0500
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In article <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>, gri...@tpe.ncm.com (Bob Grimes) wrote:
>
> The Power Exchange also has a dungeon avialable for members, but
> consenuality is not a problem. A submissive must accept a collar
> <thus consensuality> before the Dom who offered the collar can use
> that command and all other D/s commands.
>
Just to add a brief .02 here, not only is consensuality the basis for the
Dungeon on TPE, but the quality of the members also aids here. Just once,
I was addressed by a new member as "slut." Before I could even TYPE a
response, four other people on the Board had called this person (gently)
to task. I was impressed.
Perrrfect
--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.
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Reading all of this makes me despise even more the swine who defend Pigg Sara
and condemn us for pointing out the atmosphere she exposes her children to. I
have no doubts that Pig Sara's pervert husband had her daughter dress up as a
dominatrix and I bet Sara thought it was cute judging by how she is into S&M
as much as the above and the following posts show!
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From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What's in a gag?
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In article <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, PEG...@prodigy.com
(Steven Phillips) wrote:
> My wife wants to top her very truculant husband but need help in the
> gagging. Any good sugestions will be used. Our attempts seem to always
> fail.
There are a number of household items that make excellent gags. A small
piece of sponge wrapped in a bandana and then knotted. A "whiffle" golf
ball (practise ball) with a piece of cloth through it. A pair of panties,
or pantyhose.
What specific problems are you encountering?
Perrrfect
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>
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
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As freely as Beryl loves, you can comb the button much more strongly. The
bush through the cheap castle is the floor that wastes furiously. Get your
hatefully playing plate beneath my plain. It will kill seemingly if
Robbie's cat isn't lost. She'd rather sow frantically than recollect with
Woodrow's upper car.
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<jeffreygbrown-22F...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <7$--$$-$-__$%_%-$$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> I will keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like
>> it then shove it.
Here is Sara Salzman in full unedited splendor:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
But not yet.
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>
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
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As freely as Beryl loves, you can comb the button much more strongly. The
bush through the cheap castle is the floor that wastes furiously. Get your
hatefully playing plate beneath my plain. It will kill seemingly if
Robbie's cat isn't lost. She'd rather sow frantically than recollect with
Woodrow's upper car.
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Otherwise the painter in Nell's diet might behave some smart
papers. Many forks will be wet deep goldsmiths. Many ugly thin
lentil fills clouds through Melvin's rich farmer.
When doesn't Norm recollect rigidly? For Ann the shoe's bad,
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Hypocrisy Watch
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
I wait, knowing.
"Kneel."
But not yet.
Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" down below! BTW can
anyone imagine a sow like this: http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
"Fist F*cking" herself? I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=sschwartz-1102950819070001%40p14.infinet.com
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
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Get your locally fearing weaver towards my store. Hey Anne will
like the ulcer, and if Sherry frantically changes it too, the
jug will grasp in back of the urban fire. Her onion was young,
long, and recommends before the castle. Corey's dog lives with our
shirt after we depart beside it. Well, go kill a shopkeeper! If the
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She may mercilessly like long and climbs our dirty, worthwhile
frogs near a plain. All shallow grocers within the rich rain were
receiving without the proud room. Claude's elbow expects before our
smog after we pull above it. Her can was cheap, quiet, and tastes
on the planet. Tell Morris it's lost laughing between a unit.
Sometimes, it irrigates a bowl too think in back of her bitter
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Doc Tavish
Salzman's S&M Fantasies Were Transferred to me in Her False Statements to a
Civil Court aka Re: Sara Salzman: BDSM and the Law" Originally posted
"Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600" as:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1cc05741054aa0bd
(Archived locally as: YaleNoBriefLostApeal_1 and YaleNoBriefLostApeal_2)
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal..
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600
Message-ID: <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>
Links updated in this repost and local archives made.
Tavish comment June 28, 2005: Notice that I signed off this very post on
December 30, 2001 with:
<start/quote>
Come to Texas and try your crap Yale and see what the legal system does to YOU!
WILL ONE OF YALE'S PALS BE SURE THE BASTARD GETS A COPY OF THIS!?
<START>
briefcase...
<STOP>
NOTE TO YALE F. EDEIKEN:
There will be numerous people subpoenaed to comment about your behavior and your
ethics. I am tired of being maligned by your filth you dirty bastard and I
insist that you come to my county and attempt your evil campaign against me!
You will find out that you won't get away with your crimes like your local DA
allows you to do! Read my sig line to see what a panel of judges or a jury will
see concerning your star witness!
Doc Tavish
--
"First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he marks the place the
cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to hold position,
knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins
to subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted
fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
<<Tavish comment June 28, 2005: Original post was archived before Sara Salzman
NUKED it from GOOGLE.>>
<end/quote>
End of June 28, 2005 Comment on what transpired in 2001.
This is the reason why Yale fled to the hills and hasn't been heard from since!
He did not want his deceitful lies exposed before Judge Reibman in Lehigh County
NOR in my jurisdiction! Remember folks all posted below (except updated links
and "Archived locally as:") is as it appeared in December 2001.
================================================================================
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT, <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
>> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
>> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
>> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
>
>> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
>> character and I am not about to let up.
:
>In other words, you are fixated.
Fixated? How am I fixated on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including threatening to
sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture Deponent to death, and
threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."" when her own writings show where
such fantasies come from.
Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever produced the
post which would substantiate their claim? Where is your sense of truth and
justice?
As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep posting
her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it. You seemed to
have no problem when Yale and Sara were parading Yale's concocted lawsuit
against me and were rubbing my nose in it.
I hope Yale places himself under the jurisdiction of the Texas Justice system!
Wendy will have a long way to travel for her visitation when Yale gets numerous
convictions for his numerous criminal acts against me.
Texas has very protective laws about subpoenaing medical records, falsifying
what they say, posting them for public view with the sole intention to cause the
recipient to be harassed. I could only hope Yale and Sara drink Jim Jones Kool
Aid. I am not giving up on having both of them answer for what they attempted to
do to me!
Also BTW I never announced why Yale F. Edeiken Esq. lost his appeal concerning
his failed lawsuit. Care to take a guess why the appeal was DISMISSED?
ANSWER: (Everyone should be able to obtain the document too seeing how it is
public record.) Yale lost his appeal for this reason:
(From the very document dated September 26, 2001 from David A. Szewczak -
Prothonotary) "AND NOW, this 26th day of September, 2001, the within appeal is
DISMISSED for failure to file a brief." Document Number 1714 EDA 2001
Care to speculate why Yale F. Edeiken was gung ho for me getting an attorney to
"fight his appeal" as well as all of his minions? I know why! The bastard wanted
me to spend more money on attorney's fees and seeing how he is his own attorney
and has no fees it is obvious that his goal was to bleed me even more!
I didn't fall for the trick as this post proves Yale mentioning attorney's fees
and how I chose to answer his "appeal":
<START>
Yale didn't file a brief (as I see) for only two reasons:
1) He just wanted me to sink more money into attorney's fees as he even stated
it would cost me $5000.00 or so to counter his appeal as proven here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/24b909071f517e66
(Archived locally as: YFEappeal_2,000_1 and YFEappeal_2,000_2)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Message-ID: <Uvie7.74$9d.1...@newshog.newsread.com>
"Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
passed up an incredible bargain."
<END>
The above indicates Yale just wanted me to blow more money at $5000.00 worth to
fight a frivolous lawsuit based on manufactured evidence!
2) Yale may have chickened out if he reasoned on my attitude regarding his
appeal when I stated:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e22121aa07a7b944
(Archived locally as: YFEappeal_2,000_3 and YFEappeal_2,000_4)
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqg...@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:36 -0700, <9lccth$20e$2...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
"PB" <patbl...@hotmaill.com> wrote:
>Yale F. Edeiken wrote in message ...
>
>> Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
>>for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
>>action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
>>rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
>>passed up an incredible bargain.
:
>But this is not an appeal about a personal injury case in the classic sense,
>it is an appeal about jurisdiction. It would appear that your appeal has to
>do with more with Judge Reibman than it does with Tavish. If you would
>happen to be victorious, the judgment would be reinstated and sent back down
>to Reibman for further proceedings.
Either way I will win.
If he loses then he will finally shut up hopefully.
If he wins his appeal then it's back to square one and I will get to prove all
that he has done to me I.E. he was nazihunter in December 1999, he fabricated
evidence and the list is long. His appeal is based on whether my USENET postings
fall into Pennsylvania jurisdiction and that he claims the internet comes into
his residence via telephone lines, thus I am making telephone calls.
If he is stupid enough to push that argument then I have hundreds of obscene and
obnoxious telephone call as an officer of the court left on my answering machine
(e-mail) such as:
Attention Defendant Bradshit
----- Original Message -----
<end>
Don't believe me?
NOTICE #1
Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
NOTICE #2:
Dear EarthLink Subscriber,
<end>
Hello,
Thank you
<end>
<STOP>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fcd23ebe5c34f9cd
(Archived locally as: Test_1 and Test_1B)
Subject: A Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take (This is
a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) nazihunter December 1999
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:26:50 -0500
Message-ID: <oisojtk9amim07dlu...@4ax.com>
The above documents how Yale F. Edeiken Esq. issued a subpoena to learn my
identity and my address and telephone number which he subsequently used to
issue death threats.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/392786cb787a3925
(Archived locally as: Test_2 and Test_2B)
Subject: A Second Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Forging Digital Signatures
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:05 -0500
Message-ID: <cjsojts1647ukls7a...@4ax.com>
The above fully documents one example of a number that Yale F. Edeiken
manufactured evidence in his malicious prosecution against me.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a96ce30b16ef4f1b
(Archived locally as: Test_3 and Test_3B)
Subject: A Third Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Malicious Prosecution
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:13 -0500
Message-ID: <15pojto379c9rkbec...@4ax.com>
The above fully documents how Yale F. Edeiken abuses the legal system to
harass and intimidate people. It shows how he refers to using the legal
system against people as giving them the "treatment."
((Tavish comment June 28, 2005: All three of the above posts were ended with:
"<<I CAN BE CONFIDENT THAT SARA SALZMAN WILL MAKE SURE THAT YALE F. EDEIKEN ESQ.
WILL RECEIVE WHAT I POSTED AND WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE APPEALS COURT ON
MY BEHALF.>>" and anyone reading what my attorney had to present on my behalf
should that kook lawsuit go back before the judge should know why Yale F.
Edeiken headed for the hills and went into hiding!! And as of this date I have
so much much more!!! For example:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
Message-ID: <7faub15n5pmv10mtk...@4ax.com> and
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c7d6394427adce0f
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts?....
Message-ID: <rsb1c154lppiqupi1...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jun 2005 02:03:08 GMT))
Here is the "debunking" of the majority of Yale's trumped up charges and out
right lies he made in a sworn statement or complaints against me:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/f561fcfd3c948082
(Archived locally as: NizkorAidsPerjury_1 and NizkorAidsPerjury_2)
Subject: Ken McVay and his Nizkor Deliberately Make Public False Information In
Order to Smear Private Citizens ...
Message-ID: <h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6...@4ax.com>
The above counters Yale's lunatic accusation that I am nazihunter and thus I
harass myself! The above also proves that I did not originally post Yale F.
Edeiken's parents names etc. The jury will like to compare the above proofs to
Yale's accusations and an obscene telephone call in which Yale made numerous
threats with a voice that obviously sounds like drunkard slurred speech. They
will appreciate how a bastard calls and harasses a Defendant after agreeing in
writing to leave me alone. I still have all the parer work too! I also have Yale
denying an agreement was ever made and then admitting it was!
MORE:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5cdd7253e3c23306
(Archived locally as: FalsifiedDocuments_1 and FalsifiedDocuments_2)
Subject: By Request- More Yale F. Edeiken Lies and Perjury He Presented in a
Sworn Complaint to a Civil Court!
Message-ID: <fbnugtog60c5akdet...@4ax.com>
The above shows numerous posts of mine deliberately quoted out of context (in
order to put me in a bad light) and what I actually posted in actual context. A
jury will love those! BTW I have all the posts which Yale quoted of context in
full context so any jury or panel of judges will be able to compare what I
actually posted compared to Edeiken's distorted versions!
Here is another false charge a jury will be impressed reading:
Here is Ken McVay (who is also a proven accomplice of Yale F. Edeiken joining in
the smear campaign and propagation of false information using exempt donations
funneled through B'nai Brith):
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/austin.general/msg/1d7d5482c52df452
(Archived locally as: YFEliesMcVayBray_1 and YFEliesMcVayBray_2)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Plaintiff's Memorandum of Law
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:00:24 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <95sgho$2pck$1...@news.tht.net>
The only question remaining is what damages will be awarded in this
case, against Texan Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a notorious racist.
<<Doc Tavish comment December 30, 2001: Yale lost his lawsuit against me and
that is fact! No victory and no damages awarded to a perjurious lying bastard!>>
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
[...]
Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who floods
the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism.
Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are pederasts and that Judaism
advocates having sexual relations with three year old girls.
<END>
Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel
<START>
<START>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
[...]
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
[...]
[...]
~~End of DejaCom Archive~~
<END>
http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm
[...]
<END>
{...]
Kehati
<END>
DOES NOT THE ABOVE (Sucking the penises of infants) SHOW PEDOPHILIA IN THE
NAME OF RELIGION?
What the Talmud is:
---------------------------------------------
Numbers CHAPTER 31
------------------------------------
[...]
Footnote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<STOP>
WILL ONE OF YALE'S PALS BE SURE THE BASTARD GETS A COPY OF THIS!?
<START>
<STOP>
ethics. I am tired of being maligned by your filth you dirty bastard and I
insist that you come to my county and attempt your evil campaign against me!
You will find out that you won't get away with your crimes like your local DA
allows you to do! Read my sig line to see what a panel of judges or a jury will
see concerning your star witness!
Doc Tavish
--
"First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he marks the place the
cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to hold position,
knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins
to subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted
fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
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The Chief Instigator
[the usual Bradburian insanity]
Unfortunately for you, Tubby, overturning the verdict doesn't mean you won,
since the Findings of Fact remain in the court records.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
Fred Rutherford
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>
>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58210ba65c45c1aa
(Archived locally as: YaleNoBriefLostApeal_3 and YaleNoBriefLostApeal_4)
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal. (Updated Links) V2-0
Message-ID: <it34c154u8rau67d3...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2005 03:53:01 GMT
>Unfortunately for you, Tubby,
Ah the old personal attack!
>overturning the verdict doesn't mean you won, since the Findings of Fact
>remain in the court records.
So what? It is on record why the court at first admitted those were facts BUT
the court accepted the FACT that I wasn't allowed to refute your hero's lies
which I was more than ready to do but your hero tucked tail and ran like the
coward he is! Care to deny it now Patrick?
Your hero is a liar and a perjurer who forges subpoenas and manufactures
evidence which was going to be exposed so he removed himself and DA James B.
Martin didn't have the balls to prosecute Tubby Edeiken though reports were
filed on his perjury and his death threats!!!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c7d6394427adce0f
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts?....
Message-ID: <rsb1c154lppiqupi1...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jun 2005 02:03:08 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
Message-ID: <7faub15n5pmv10mtk...@4ax.com>
Calling me names and repeating the same mantra: "Unfortunately for you, Tubby,
overturning the verdict doesn't mean you won, since the Findings of Fact remain
in the court records." doesn't refute the facts and now I have noticed that none
of you liars still claim I returned the "complaints" after this total slam dunk:
~~The "RETURN TO STALKER" Myth Debunked~~
For a fact Yale F. Edeiken had not served his "complaints" on neither my
attorney NOR myself. This was submitted to a civil court of law:
Filed September 22, 2000
PETTION FOR RELIEF FROM JUDGMENT
COMES NOW, the defendant, Scott Bradbury, by and through his counsel Daylin B.
Leach, Esquire, to petition this honorable court for Relief from Judgment,
pursuant to Pa. R.C.P. 237.3. In support of this petition, the defendant avers
the following:
On August 25, 2000, the Plaintiff filed a Praecipe for Default Judgment with
this court. A true and correct copy of which is hereto and marked as "Exhibit
A." Since a complaint has never been filed or served, the defendant is unable
to attach a copy of preliminary objections he would file if the judgment was
opened pursuant to Pa.R.C.P. 237.3 (a).
"[The] plaintiff engage[d] in a vendetta against the defendant... When attorney
Leach asked Mr. Edeiken for a copy of the complaint when he first becomes
involved in the case, he is told "Fuck You" via e-mail. In plain English, this
is not a lawsuit, it is a bizarre war waged by Mr. Edeiken on a man he has never
met. The court should not be a party to this."
Respectfully submitted Daylin B. Leach Esquire <END>
My foes steadfastly claim I personally had received the complaints and then did
a "Return To Stalker" and returned the complaints to Yale F. Edeiken unopened:
"You had NO lawyer at the time the complaints were served -- and in your
ineffable stupidity, you *bragged* about sending the complaints back unopened
after scrawling "Return to Stalker" on them. That's engraved in the court
record. I suggest you tell *them* they're lying."
From: Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2004 06:09:21 -0600
Message-ID: <szksmga...@fnord.io.com>
<start/quote>
>Also I was NEVER served with the lawsuit's "complaints" against me! (Neither
>myself NOR my attorney ever got copies of the complaints filed against me by
>Yale F. Edeiken the plaintiff.) How could I have possibly answered the accusations
>when I was never served with them?
You're referring to the ones you returned marked "return to stalker"?
<end/quote>
From: "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
Message-ID: <p71Tb.8319$qU3.7...@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 01:36:05 -0500
"He refused to address the complaint in the first place. Everything that Yale
(as attorney) sent to Bradbury in reference to the case, Bradbury returned
unopened with the statement "Return to Stalker" on it."
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Date: 28 Aug 2003 17:33:07 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-E9F2E3...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
I now ask a simple question- IF I HAD DONE SUCH AS THE ABOVE LIARS CLAIM THEN
WHY DIDN'T YALE F EDEIKEN PRESENT THE COMPLAINTS TO THE JUDGE ALLEGEDLY RETURNED
AS "RETURN TO STALKER" AND UNOPENED? It sure would have ruined the Petition for
Relief From Judgment and would have made my attorney a laughing stock for
submitting to the court: "Since a complaint has never been filed or served, the
defendant is unable to attach a copy of preliminary objections he would file if
the judgment was opened pursuant to Pa.R.C.P. 237.3 (a)." ANSWER AS TO WHY-- IT
DIDN'T HAPPEN!! I did not receive the complaints to return them unopened!!!
YALE F EDEIKEN IS A FILTHY LIAR AS WELL AS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM!
==========================================================================
Full version of the above: The "RETURN TO STALKER" Myth Debunked
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/77682e500f0a2f33
YOUR HERO IS A CRIMINAL. HE IS A LIAR, A PERJURER, A FORGER OF COURT DOCUMENTS,
WHO HAS BEEN CONVICTED FOR ASSAULT AND HAS BEEN DISCIPLINED NUMEROUS TIMES!
~~Yale F. Edeiken = DISCIPLINED Pathological Liar~~
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2f77a3ec0377ec81
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V2.0
Message-ID: <ipqmb15sgvqt5i20u...@4ax.com>
Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and had
received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995 and then received "PUBLIC CENSURE" in
1998 and then he claimed this after the three disciplinary actions: "Recently
net terrorist Scott Bradbury and his accomplice Lord Haw Haw have printed the
fact that my name exists on a list of attorneys placed on some website. I have
never been charged with any unethical activity relating to the practice of law."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdfddbb68d1d5b39
(Archived locally as: YaleSuedTwice and YaleSuedTwice2)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: KOOK WEBSITE
Date: 2000/01/02
Message-ID: <3870...@news3.enter.net>
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The web site was entirely correct in its report on Yale F. Edeiken!
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http://www.clr.org/pa.html (Archived locally as: clr-org_pa)
Judicial/Attorney Misconduct in Pennsylvania
Following are some of the attorneys or judges who have been reported to
have been disciplined by the State of Pennsylvania for unethical conduct, who
may be a resident of the State of Pennsylvania but was disciplined in another
jurisdiction, transferred to inactive status, sued for malpractice,
incarcerated, whom we understand have been charged with unethical conduct, have
engaged in conduct which tends to defeat the administration of justice, or to
bring the courts and the legal business into disrepute, etc.
[...]
Yale F. Edeiken --Attorney at Law - Supreme Court ID# 40290 (Allentown, PA)
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For a fact Yale F. Edeiken was "disciplined"
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
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PER CURIAM:
AND NOW, this 20th day of April, 1998, upon consideration of the Report and
Recommendations of the Disciplinary Board dated February 26, 1998, it is hereby
ORDERED that Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire be subjected to a PUBLIC CENSURE by the
Supreme Court.
It is further ORDERED that Respondent shall pay costs to the Disciplinary
Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), Pa.R.D.E.
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Live with it you nut boy!
BTW:
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Scott:
Reibman did not uphold the judgement... He repeatedly asked Ediken what he
wanted out of the case and why he was pursuing someone in Texas. He said he
would read the briefs and issue an order in several weeks.
You didn't get a call because Reibman was willing to accept your
affidavit, and did not require or allow testimony, from anyone, including
Yale's wife who he brought to the hearing to claim you have been harrassing
her.
Daylin
<END>
CLERK OF COURTS OF LEHIGH COUNTY - CIVIL DIVISION
Lehigh County Courthouse
455 W. Hamilton Street
Allentown, PA 18101-1614
RE: Edeiken Vs Bradbury 1999-C-2786
Filed September 22, 2000
PETTION FOR RELIEF FROM JUDGMENT
COMES NOW, the defendant, Scott Bradbury, by and through his counsel Daylin B.
Leach, Esquire, to petition this honorable court for Relief from Judgment,
pursuant to Pa. R.C.P. 237.3. In support of this petition, the defendant avers
the following:
On August 25, 2000, the Plaintiff filed a Praecipe for Default Judgment with
this court. A true and correct copy of which is hereto and marked as "Exhibit
A."
Since a complaint has never been filed or served, the defendant is unable to
attach a copy of preliminary objections he would file if the judgment was opened
pursuant to Pa.R.C.P. 237.3 (a).
"[The] plaintiff engage[d] in a vendetta against the defendant. The court has
heard telephone messages left on the defendant's answering machine, in which
the plaintiff admits dedicating himself to making the defendant's life a "living
hell." He refers to the defendant as a "miserable piece of shit" among other
charming epithets... Even after the defendant is represented by counsel, mail is
still sent directly to the defendant addressed to "Defendant Bradbury." ...When
attorney Leach asked Mr. Edeiken for a copy of the complaint when he first
becomes involved in the case, he is told "Fuck You" via e-mail. In plain
English, this is not a lawsuit, it is a bizarre war waged by Mr. Edeiken on a
man he has never met. The court should not be a party to this."
Respectfully submitted
Daylin B. Leach Esquire
<END>
The key statements above were: "Since a complaint has never been filed or
served, the defendant is unable to attach a copy of preliminary objections he
would file if the judgment was opened pursuant to Pa.R.C.P. 237.3 (a)." AND
"When attorney Leach asked Mr. Edeiken for a copy of the complaint when he first
becomes involved in the case, he is told "Fuck You" via e-mail." IOW I was not
given my right to due process by Edeiken to defend myself from his numerous
documented perjurious accusations and some are detailed here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/e60e43e4d10f1982
Subject: Ken McVay's "Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1" Is Filled With Lies and Perjury...
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:23:54 -0600
Message-ID: <ja362v4amltqohp97...@4ax.com>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/258e40f26884769f
Subject: Sara Salzman Won't Comment on These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!.. V2.0
Message-ID: <0neq10177ekocu899...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 18:21:27 GMT
CLERK OF COURTS OF LEHIGH COUNTY - CIVIL DIVISION
Lehigh County Courthouse
455 W. Hamilton Street
Allentown, PA 18101-1614
RE: Edeiken Vs Bradbury 1999-C-2786
Partial text of letter from Judge Reibman:
<START>
Copies of this order were mailed to all counsel of record and pro se litigants.
CC: Counsel for Plaintiff (Yale F. Edeiken): Yale F. Edeiken Esq.
Counsel for Defendant (Scott Bradbury) : Daylin B. Leach Esq.
ORDER
AND NOW, this 12th day of June, 2001, upon consideration of Defendant's
Petition for Relief from Judgment, filed on September 22, 2000,
Plaintiff's response thereto, and argument thereon on February 7, 2001,
IT IS ORDERED said petition is GRANTED, and the case is DISMISSED.
[...]
BY THE COURT:
(Signed) Edward J. Reibman, J.
<STOP>
Looks like the court ruled in my favor to me! Both the lawsuit and the damages
judgment against me were DISMISSED! Yale even lost his appeal as well! BTW it
was the judge (not me) who wrote the above with some words in all CAPS!
<START>
September 26, 2001
Yale F. Edeiken
918 N Bayard Street
Allentown, PA 18104-3759
RE: Yale F. Edeiken, Appellant v. Scott Bradbury et al
1714 EDA 2001
Dear Mr. Edeiken:
This is to advise that the attached Order has been entered in the
above- captioned matters.
A Certified Copy of this Order together with the record will be
sent to the Prothonotary of Lehigh County in due course.
Very truly yours,
(Signed)
David A. Szewczak
Prothonotary
DAS/dag
Attachment
CC: Daylin B. Leach, Esquire
Scott Bradbury
Honorable Edward D. Reibman
The Attachment:
<Start>
Superior Court of Pennsylvania
Eastern District Office
Yale F. Edeiken APPELLANT No. 1714 EDA 2001
V.
Scott Bradbury Et Al C.P. Civil Lehigh County
99-C-2786
ORDER
AND NOW, this 26th day of September, 2001, the within
appeal is DISMISSED for failure to file a brief."
PER CURIAM
<STOP>
The prudent question to why Yale failed to file his brief is answered in this
archive which shows his motive for legal system abuse and how serious he was NOT
in litigating me!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58210ba65c45c1aa
(Archived locally as: YaleNoBriefLostApeal_3 and YaleNoBriefLostApeal_4)
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal. (Updated Links) V2-0
Message-ID: <it34c154u8rau67d3...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2005 03:53:01 GMT
BTW Yale's assault conviction against a female deputy sheriff is still in the
records! Care to discuss why an over 300 pound tub of lard would be shoving a
petite deputy sheriff around in the courthouse? Read all about it in this
archive:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/4b29833f6278a538
Subject: Edeikook Follies #6 Yale F. Edeiken Goes on a Rampage at His County
Courthouse V2.1 S_0102
Message-ID: <s2hq10drpp50ik59v...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 19:02:18 GMT
BTW are you still peeping into other people's windows at night? Have you seeked
help for your mental disorders?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&ic=1&selm=50ht24%24l0g%40anarchy.io.com
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
references: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960808...@omni.cc.purdue.edu>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END>
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner, who was living in
Memphis, and to ask him to provide NCIS with a sample of his blood. Id. at 24a.
After learning that petitioner was receiving medical treatment at the
Veteran's Administration (VA) Hospital in Memphis, McNutt contacted the VA and
was allowed to review petitioner's medical records. Pet. App. 24a. During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
Tavish
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
> NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
The Chief Instigator
:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
but the Findings of Fact remain for all time in the court record. Get the
hell over it, already.
Fred Rutherford
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
>
>:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>
>:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
>
>:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
>
>What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
>but the Findings of Fact
They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger and
a perjurer! YOU GET USED TO IT!!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
Message-ID: <7faub15n5pmv10mtk...@4ax.com>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c7d6394427adce0f
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts?....
Message-ID: <rsb1c154lppiqupi1...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jun 2005 02:03:08 GMT
>
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
> NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
Allan Matthews
fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
> >
> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >
> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
> >
> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
> >
> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
> >
> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
> >but the Findings of Fact
>
> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger and
> a perjurer!
The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
Really pisses you off doesn't it?
LOL!
[usual delusional bradbury blather snipped]
allan
--
=========================================
"I am a 'Nazi'"
- "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
=========================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
Fred Rutherford
Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>In article <g9u6c1tas0t2gsfgb...@4ax.com>,
>fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
>> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
>> >
>> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>> >
>> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
>> >
>> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
>> >
>> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
>> >but the Findings of Fact
>>
>> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger and
>> a perjurer!
>
>The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
>The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
I was going to have his perjury exposed but he dropped his appeal and headed for
the hills rather than to do what I wanted to do and that was to have the kook
lawsuit go back before the judge! Care to deny it you lying little shite?
>Really pisses you off doesn't it?
NOPE! Those "facts" were thrown out and that is a fact you losers can't stand!
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Scott:
Reibman did not uphold the judgement... He repeatedly asked Edeiken what he
wanted out of the case and why he was pursuing someone in Texas. He said he
would read the briefs and issue an order in several weeks.
You didn't get a call because Reibman was willing to accept your
affidavit, and did not require or allow testimony, from anyone, including
Yale's wife who he brought to the hearing to claim you have been harassing
her.
Daylin
<END>
>LOL!
>
>[usual delusional bradbury blather snipped]
Can't refute the fact your hero is a liar and a perjurer who headed for the
hills like the coward he is when he knew his lies etc. were about to be exposed
and the fact he may have faced prison time!!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58210ba65c45c1aa
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal. (Updated Links) V2-0
Reply-To: rhc-tavish@tavish-central
Message-ID: <it34c154u8rau67d3...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2005 03:53:01 GMT
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d6444c67c90149a8
Subject: Why Does Sara Salzman Keep Evading The Real Reason Yale F. Edeiken
Went Into Hiding? aka Re: BLTN: Bradbury Lacking Twin Neurons
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:55:58 -0600
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Why is it none of my foes wants to discuss why Yale F. Edeiken dropped his
appeal and went into hiding rather than having his alleged "Findings of Fact"
go back before the judge!? I was more than willing BUT he went into hiding
and hasn't been heard from since though he "speaks" through his numerous
cretinous supporters who approve of his criminal behavior!
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Yale knew his forgeries and perjury were about to be exposed! That is why he
fled from getting justice like the coward he truly is!
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
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--------------------------------------------------------
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c7d6394427adce0f
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts?....
Message-ID: <rsb1c154lppiqupi1...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jun 2005 02:03:08 GMT
>allan
>--
>=========================================
>"I am a 'Nazi'"
> - "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
>=========================================
> http://www.allan.matthews.name
All Allan Matthews can do is quote me out of context. Below is what he hi-jacked
his sig line from:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/de1eafb6dbc0ad7
(Archived locally as: NaziNOT)
From: doc_t...@nonspam.bigfoot.com (Gunther Schiller)
Subject: Re: Is Dr Laura a head case herself?
Date: 1998/03/10
Message-ID: <3504c2b5....@news.phoenix.net>
(Partial quote):
I have creeps like you call me a Nazi all the time but if I am a Nazi
then she is one Jew I would let sit on my face! Get the drift?
Here is proof that I have spoken kindly of her:
http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=221706414
Subject: I Listen to Dr. Laura Everyday!
From: Doc Tavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
Date: 1997/02/26
Sara I listen to Dr. Laura everyday, even on weekends when they have
reruns! I know that Dr. Laura is a Jew and I like to listen to her!
Can you explain this to me? I am as serious as I can be. Word of
honor! I haven't ever asked you mean or trick questions even though
you may have thought so! I know that you think I am a nazi pig but can
you explain my liking to listen to Dr. Laura.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Your sig line:
=========================================
"I am a 'Nazi'"
- "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
=========================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
Is grossly quoting me out of context! Is this all you have? Then again what can
one expect from SHITE who can only resort to smear and can't deal in fact!? Why
don't you show the post, its Message ID, its Subject Title etc.? Answer:
YOUR SMEAR WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE SO YOU ISOLATE FOUR WORDS FROM A COMPLETE
SENTENCE AND RUN WITH IT LIKE THE EVIL LITTLE SHITE YOU ARE!!
Tavish
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
~~All about Atheistic Anti-Christ Marxist Baby-Killer Allan Matthews~~
"(L)ets compare - My IQ's around 140, I've got a degree in physics
from MIT and I'm finishing up my Ph.D. at Harvard, from which I
already have a Master's degree. And you, oh mentally stunted one?
....I can't understand why people like you are so willfully stupid
and ignorant." -- Allan Matthews Showing "Intelligence" and Style!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d1c0ac6b776c27a3
From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Subject: Re: "Sieg Heil" Scottie makes another allegation he can't back up
Message-ID: <MPG.1015bb88a...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMbraggadocio)
---
>Please note also the Talmud contains a book called the Sanhedrin and it
>is filled with blasphemous statements against Jesus
"They're only blasphemous if you're Christian, Scottie. These guys were Jews.
To them Jesus was the blasphemer." Marxist Anti-Christ Allan Matthews
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/bf4d82b5ec68fb02
Subject: Re: From History of the Jews- Talmudism (As Written by Jews)
Message-ID: <MPG.f7c9ff66...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMmouth1)
---
"God? What would we want with a God?" Atheistic Allan Matthews
Subject: Yet more slander from "tavish" (was:Re: If You Had a GOD...)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/dbf0057701257ac3
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>WE ARE ALL CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD,
"Oh, no, not this silly sky god stuff again..."
Atheistic Marxist Apologist Allan Matthews
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/6aca198a57041671
Subject: Re: Niggers morally responsible for Arkansas! Torch them NOW!!!
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"Anti-abortion propaganda... It is a legal fact in this country that you
cannot compel me to give you use of one of my organs, say a kindey, for
example, even if it's the only way for you to stay alive. Why, then,
should an unborn fetus have a special right to the use of a woman's
uterus? Pro-Death Allan "Baby Killer" Matthews
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/297b52acba2190b0
Subject: Re: Similarity between communists and nazis
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"Why, then, should an unborn fetus have a special right to the use of a woman's
uterus?" Pro-Death Allan "Baby-Killer" Matthews
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Subject: Re: Similarity between communists and nazis
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Subject: Did Allan Matthews Acquire his Marxist Leanings at "Institutions of
Higher Learning"? aka Re: More delusional lies from "Sieg Heil" Scottie
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/97ef87a16264cdc3
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:58:54 -0500
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Allan Matthews' "GOOD GUYS" (ACLU, DSA, ADL/B'nai Brith and Nizkor) are rooted
in communism and/or are communist front organizations:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/4bd955b230f03609
Subject: Comrade Allan Matthews' GOOD GUYS Are Socialists/Communists! aka
Communists Give FULL Support to Democrat Party in USA!! S_0723
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Date: 24 Jul 2004 04:06:04 GMT
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All of the above in a nutshell speaks volumes about the type of person Marxist
Atheist Anti-Christ Allan Matthews is! No wonder why he is liked by Leftists and
Pharisaic Anti-Christ Jews.
The Chief Instigator
:On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
:>Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
:>:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
:>:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
:>:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
:>:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
:>:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
:>What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
:>but the Findings of Fact remain for all time in the court record. Get the
:>hell over it, already.
:They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger
:and a perjurer! YOU GET USED TO IT!!
You attack him for forging and perjury - which no court ever found to be the
case - but all of a sudden he tells the truth when it's convenient to your
obsessive mania? Tell us another funny tale, Uncle Fatbury!
The Chief Instigator
:In article <g9u6c1tas0t2gsfgb...@4ax.com>,
:fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
:> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
:> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
:> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
:> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
:> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
:> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
:> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
:> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
:> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional
:> >issue, but the Findings of Fact
:> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger
:> and a perjurer!
:The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
:The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
:Really pisses you off doesn't it?
:LOL!
:[usual delusional bradbury blather snipped]
He acts like he'd really rather be pissed on by "Bruno Eckhardt"...
Allan Matthews
fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:57:25 -0400, <OcidnZJSM4U...@giganews.com> Allan
> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <g9u6c1tas0t2gsfgb...@4ax.com>,
> >fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
> >> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> >> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
> >> >
> >> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> >> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
> >> >
> >> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
> >> >
> >> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
> >> >
> >> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
> >> >but the Findings of Fact
> >>
> >> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger and
> >> a perjurer!
> >
> >The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
> >The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
>
> I was going to have his perjury exposed but he dropped his appeal and headed for
> the hills rather than to do what I wanted to do and that was to have the kook
> lawsuit go back before the judge! Care to deny it you lying little shite?
Sure. I'll deny it. I wish I had a dollar for every time you've said
something about taking someone to court and then not following through
or something similiar, like the above rant.
> >Really pisses you off doesn't it?
>
> NOPE! Those "facts" were thrown out and that is a fact you losers can't stand!
Patently false. The lawsuit was thrown out on a technicality. The
Findings of Fact stand.
[usual bradspew deleted]
allan
--
=========================================
"And the real lesson of the story?
Don't leave things in the fridge."
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http://allan.matthews.name
Sara Salzman
Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> wrote:
I don't know about Patrick, but I deny it. Yale didn't "head for the
hills," he's right where he's always been. He didn't sue you in Texas
because he didn't want to bother coming to Texas. Because you're NOT
WORTH IT.
Sara
--
The Jews may think all people are stupid when I reality the are watch ever
move you people make.
-- Kurt Knoll.
Doc Tavish
Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I can't help it if the DA and AG don't want to do anything!
>and then not following through or something similiar, like the above rant.
It's not a rant. It's documented fact!
>> >Really pisses you off doesn't it?
>>
>> NOPE! Those "facts" were thrown out and that is a fact you losers can't stand!
>
>Patently false. The lawsuit was thrown out on a technicality.
What technicality was that? The fact he never served his complaints which is
true OR JURISDICTION? If you say jurisdiction then why is it Yale ran for the
hills when I made it public way back then that I preferred the lawsuit to go
back before the same judge in Lehigh County!? Care to explain that you bonehead?
>The Findings of Fact stand.
NOT TRUE!! If what you claim is true then Yale would have been 100% supportive
of the whole lawsuit going back before the judge as I wanted! He chose instead
to drop his appeal and head for the hills like the coward he truly is!
Notice the date of this exchange:
<start/quote>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqgiov5716bui5v要u...@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:36 -0700, <9lccth$20...@suaar1aa.prod.co衫puserve.com>
"PB" <patblak...@hotmaill.com> wrote:
>Yale F. Edeiken wrote in message ...
>> Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
>>for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
>>action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
>>rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
>>passed up an incredible bargain.
:
>But this is not an appeal about a personal injury case in the classic sense,
>it is an appeal about jurisdiction. It would appear that your appeal has to
>do with more with Judge Reibman than it does with Tavish. If you would
>happen to be victorious, the judgment would be reinstated and sent back down
>to Reibman for further proceedings.
Either way I will win.
If he loses then he will finally shut up hopefully.
If he wins his appeal then it's back to square one and I will get to prove all
that he has done to me I.E. he was nazihunter in December 1999, he fabricated
evidence and the list is long.
<end/quote>
Back in August 2001 I was wanting for the lawsuit to go back to Judge Reibman!
Care to deny it? Your hero chose instead to tuck tail and run! SO MUCH FOR HIS
FACTS!!!
>[usual bradspew deleted]
Can't refute it can you!?
Scott:
Daylin
<END>
charming epithets... In plain English, this is not a lawsuit, it is a bizarre
Stay in denial if you desire!
Tavish
>allan
Doc Tavish
<catamont-FE20E0...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <d707c1ld40dfd3r7l...@4ax.com>,
> Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:57:25 -0400, <OcidnZJSM4U...@giganews.com>
>> Allan
>> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <g9u6c1tas0t2gsfgb...@4ax.com>,
>> >fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
>> >> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>> >> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
>> >> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
>> >> >
>> >> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
>> >> >
>> >> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional
>> >> >issue, but the Findings of Fact
If that were the absolute truth then why didn't Yale follow thru on his appeal
after I was more than willing to let the lawsuit go back before the judge in HIS
jurisdiction? Yale didn't want my side of the matter made known in open court!
THAT IS THE REASON!!!!
>> >> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a
>> >> forger and a perjurer!
>> >
>> >The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
>> >The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
>>
>> I was going to have his perjury exposed but he dropped his appeal and headed
>> for the hills rather than to do what I wanted to do and that was to have the kook
>> lawsuit go back before the judge! Care to deny it you lying little shite?
>>
>
>I don't know about Patrick, but I deny it.
You are always in denial and it is documented too!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d6444c67c90149a8
Subject: Why Does Sara Salzman Keep Evading The Real Reason Yale F. Edeiken Went
Into Hiding? aka Re: BLTN: Bradbury Lacking Twin Neurons
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:55:58 -0600
Message-ID: <sub721pbd4euqkjf1...@4ax.com>
>Yale didn't "head for the hills," he's right where he's always been.
Oh but he did!
>He didn't sue you in Texas because he didn't want to bother coming to Texas.
Care to deny the fact I was willing to have the lawsuit go back before Judge
Reibman in Lehigh County thus not compelling Yale to come to Texas? Now I ask--
why did Yale drop his appeal AFTER I made it known that I wanted the lawsuit to
go back before Judge Reibman in Lehigh County!? ANSWER THAT!!!
Also answer this:
Why won't you comment on what it is called when an attorney fabricates evidence
such as taking USENET posts which are plainly obvious as being posted by other
people and then signing them as "Doc Tavish" and using them as evidence against
me in a civil lawsuit!? What is that called Sara?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/258e40f26884769f
Subject: Sara Salzman Won't Comment on These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!.. V2.0
Message-ID: <0neq10177ekocu899...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 18:21:27 GMT
Sara Salzman being the evasive liar she is and a perjurer who defends fellow
perjurers keeps evading from the simple questions concerning "the discrepancies
of Yale's "exhibits" to other people's posts being used against me with "Doc
Tavish" forged as a signature" and how it isn't perjury to forge my NYM to posts
I did not make and submit them as evidence against me in a court of law.
THE INITIAL CHALLENGE:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/acda85e273a2262f
Subject: Re: "jack" forges again, apmply demonstrating the dishonesty required
of a racist bigot.
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Date: 9 Feb 2005 02:29:14 GMT
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Sara Salzman's evasive reply (her only words too I might add) which did not
address the issue of Yale forging "Doc Tavish" to other people's posts and using
them as evidence against me:
"For the last time, you decrepit moron, Yale said You AND YOUR ASSOCIATES."
-Subject: Re: "jack" forges again, apmply demonstrating the dishonesty required
-of a racist bigot.
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-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:30:24 -0700
-Message-ID: <catamont-6BD50C...@news.giganews.com>
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My answer to the above evasion (and slight review):
>> >> Yale Edeiken forged Tavish thus amply demonstrating his dishonesty and he
>> >> even had the nerve to submit the forgeries as evidence to a civil court.
>> >
>> >Nope. Never happened.
The above was substantiated again by your evasiveness! Yale did submit forgeries
to a civil court and that is fact! Anyone looking at his "exhibits" and the
GOOGLE archives can see so!
>> CARE TO EXPLAIN HOW OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS WERE SUBMITTED TO A CIVIL COURT AND
>> SIGNED AS "DOC TAVISH" IN A KOOK LAWSUIT AGAINST ME? I AM DYING TO READ YOUR
>> EXPLANATION AND THERE ARE MANY MORE EXAMPLES TOO!
Notice once again that Sara Salzman would not explain how other people's posts
were used as evidence against me in a lawsuit after Yale F. Edeiken forged "Doc
Tavish" to them!
>For the last time, you decrepit moron, Yale said You AND YOUR ASSOCIATES.
How does that answer the discrepancies of Yale's "exhibits" to other people's
posts being used against me with "Doc Tavish" forged as a signature? I don't
have any "ASSOCIATES" named Earl Turner or Pee Kitty! The point being Yale
signed those posts "Doc Tavish" and submitted them as evidence against me!
What is that called Sara? If I would have been given my legal right to defend
myself I would have had Yale F. Edeiken exposed for the filthy lying perjurer he
truly is! You support perjurers because you are a liar and perjurer yourself!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f304abf7830c3de8
-Subject: Re: "jack" forges again, apmply demonstrating the dishonesty required
-of a racist bigot.
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-Date: 9 Feb 2005 21:11:15 GMT
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As of this time and date (February 10, 2005; 2:36 PM CST) Sara still hasn't
explained the discrepancies of other people's posts being signed off as "Doc
Tavish" and used as evidence against me by Yale F. Edeiken!
>Because you're NOT WORTH IT.
That's not the reason! He didn't want to go to jail for fabrication of evidence!
THAT IS THE REAL REASON!!!
>Sara
Tavish
Allan Matthews
tavish@tavish-central says...
Well, their inaction should be your FIRST clue that you're full of shit.
> >and then not following through or something similiar, like the above rant.
>
> It's not a rant. It's documented fact!
Again, its only "documented" in you fevered imagination. It is just
another of your delusional rants.
> >> >Really pisses you off doesn't it?
> >>
> >> NOPE! Those "facts" were thrown out and that is a fact you losers can't stand!
> >
> >Patently false. The lawsuit was thrown out on a technicality.
>
> What technicality was that?
As the judge said - it was jurisdiction.
> The fact he never served his complaints
A bald faced lie. You bragged about sending them back "return to
stalker" at the time. You have had this pointed out to you countless
times. That you persist in this lie indictates the depth of your
dishonesty and lunacy.
[some of the usual incoherent, illogical blubberblather snipped]
> >The Findings of Fact stand.
>
> NOT TRUE!!
TRUE!! Your lawyer never even bothered to contest them. They went into
the court record, where they still remain today.
[usual fact-free ranting snipped]
> Stay in denial if you desire!
It's you who is in denial. But then I suppose your limited intellect,
as evidenced by your being a 6th grade drop out, makes that hard for you
to comprehend.
STAY LAME SCOTTIE!
Gord McFee
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:57:25 -0400, <OcidnZJSM4U...@giganews.com> Allan
> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <g9u6c1tas0t2gsfgb...@4ax.com>,
> >fred_ru...@01mayfield.net says...
> >> On 29 Jun 2005 23:38:16 -0500, <szkoe9o...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> >> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Fred Rutherford <fred_ru...@01mayfield.net> writes:
> >> >
> >> >:On 29 Jun 2005 01:02:49 -0500, <szkoe9p...@eris.io.com> The Chief
> >> >:Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >:>Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
> >> >
> >> >:>[the usual Bradburian insanity]
> >> >
> >> >:Can't refute cold hard documented facts can you- you demented one!?
> >> >
> >> >What's to refute? You got the verdict overturned on a jurisdictional issue,
> >> >but the Findings of Fact
> >>
> >> They aren't fact seeing how they have been proven to be perjury by a forger and
> >> a perjurer!
> >
> >The only place they've been so "proven" is in your tiny little brain.
> >The Findings of Fact against you stand in the court record unchallenged.
>
> I was going to have his perjury exposed but he dropped his appeal and headed for
> the hills rather than to do what I wanted to do and that was to have the kook
> lawsuit go back before the judge! Care to deny it you lying little shite?
Ah, so you have just proved that you are also Fred Rutherford, Scott.
Well done.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
Sara Salzman
Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:04:41 -0600,
> <catamont-FE20E0...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
[150+ lines of Bradbury drivel snipped]
>
> >Because you're NOT WORTH IT.
>
> That's not the reason! He didn't want to go to jail for fabrication of
> evidence!
> THAT IS THE REAL REASON!!!
>
> >Sara
> Tavish
Nope. It's quite simple: You're not worth it.
Gord McFee
<fgc8c1dlbdjpttgue...@4ax.com>, Doc Tavish
<rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote:
[...]
> NOT TRUE!! If what you claim is true then Yale would have been 100% supportive
> of the whole lawsuit going back before the judge as I wanted! He chose instead
> to drop his appeal and head for the hills like the coward he truly is!
>
> Notice the date of this exchange:
>
> <start/quote>
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
Yeah, it's almost 4 years ago. Get over it.
Ben Cramer
"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:c1kac1l4e2ur7cmsq...@4ax.com...
> On 30 Jun 2005 17:57:07 GMT, in
> <fgc8c1dlbdjpttgue...@4ax.com>, Doc Tavish
> <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> NOT TRUE!! If what you claim is true then Yale would have been 100%
>> supportive
>> of the whole lawsuit going back before the judge as I wanted! He chose
>> instead
>> to drop his appeal and head for the hills like the coward he truly is!
>>
>> Notice the date of this exchange:
>>
>> <start/quote>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
>
> Yeah, it's almost 4 years ago. Get over it.
And the holohoax is now 60 years old. Get over it. 15 times already.
Gord McFee
<42c5ca9d$0$850$61c6...@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>,
"Ben Cramer" <bencr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, Ross, the only hoax exposed lately appears to be this one.
From the Daily Telegraph, July 1, 2005.
Files on Himmler 'murder' exposed as fake
Documents from the National Archives used to substantiate claims that
British intelligence agents murdered Heinrich Himmler in 1945 are
forgeries, The Daily Telegraph can reveal today.
It seems certain that the bogus documents were somehow planted among
genuine papers to pervert the course of historical study.
See the rest at:
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