Anne Frank, the ballpoint girl.
Nomen Nescio
was written in ball point pen
that weren't available until
1951.
rincewind
How do you know "most of" the diary is written in ballpoint?
It's been written that the father made notations in the diaries after
she died and he was released.
How do you know, for a fact, that these "ballpoint" entries aren't his
and not hers?
Jason P
Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
I don't think "MOST" of the diary was in ballpoint, but a good part of
it was.
In the 50s a lot of hoopla went around about the Frank Diary. Probably
right around the same time the diary was amended and embellished by
someone.
The facts remain it was highly touted and apparently "edited," which
casts a shadow on the validity of the whole damn thing. Test should be
done, like were done on the Shroud of Turin, which also turned on to
be counterfeit.
The crazy Zionist Jews will always scream about something that
scientific and unbiased.
Kenneth McVay OBC
FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
FACT: The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
I guess that makes you a Leading Revisionist Scholar,
eh?
I'll Always Be 01/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > Most of her so called diary
> > was written in ball point pen
> > that weren't available until
> > 1951.
>
> Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know that,
you've been told that any number of times
>
> I don't think "MOST" of the diary was in ballpoint, but a good part of
> it was.
>
> In the 50s a lot of hoopla went around about the Frank Diary. Probably
> right around the same time the diary was amended and embellished by
> someone.
>
> The facts remain it was highly touted and apparently "edited," which
> casts a shadow on the validity of the whole damn thing. Test should be
> done, like were done on the Shroud of Turin, which also turned on to
> be counterfeit.
You can provide proof of this assertion? I mean reproducible proof that has been
peer reviewed
RJ11
In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation submitted
Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State Forensic Science
Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to determine their authenticity.
The State Forensic Science Laboratory examined the materials used--
the ink, paper, glue, etc.--and the handwriting and issued a report of
some 270 pages. "The report of the State Forensic Science Laboratory
has convincingly demonstrated that both versions of the diary of Anne
Frank were written by her in the years 1942 to 1944. The allegations
that the diary was the work of someone else (after the war or
otherwise) are thus conclusively refuted." Furthermore, that "despite
corrections and omissions..._The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank_ [i.e., the
published version of the diaries] does indeed contain `the essence' of
Anne's writings, and that there are no grounds on which the term
`forgery' can be applied to the work of the editors or publishers of
the book." <1>
1. Anne Frank, _The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank:_The_Critical_Edition_,
Prepared by the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation,
edited by David Barnouw and Gerrold Van Der Stroom, (New York,
Doubleday, 1989) p. 166.
</quote>
RJ.
george
Wrong.
But then being a nazi wannabe you know that
The Trademarked Biro was available before WW2.
But then being a nazi wannabe you know that.
Zulu
> In article<7dc6dad2-f7ea-4c59...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> Jason P<jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>> Most of her so called diary
>>> was written in ball point pen
>>> that weren't available until
>>> 1951.
>>
>> Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
>
> Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know that,
> you've been told that any number of times
>
Yeah, and some pilot dropped one just upon the Anne's house while
passing by Holland.
Zulu
> In article<1bb70f94d13275fe...@dizum.com>,
> Nomen Nescio<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>> Most of her so called diary
>> was written in ball point pen
>> that weren't available until
>> 1951.
>
> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
>
> FACT: The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
> issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
Why do you know that if nothing was written with ball point on the fairy
tale?
Zulu
Bad luck. It happens that Faurisson was a Professor who lectured on
"Analysis and interpretation of documents"...
Is The Diary of Anne Frank genuine?
by Robert Faurisson
Is The Diary of Anne Frank genuine? For two years that question was
included in the official syllabus "Text and Document Criticism," a
seminar reserved for degreed students in their fourth year. The
conclusion of my studies and research is that The Diary of Anne Frank is
a fraud.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p147_Faurisson.html
Anne Frank's Handwriting
http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/9/1/Faurisson97-101.html
someone-who-knows
> Bad luck. It happens that Faurisson was a Professor who lectured on
> "Analysis and interpretation of documents"...
Garbage.
The "Professor" Faurisson, according to Google Scholar, has
three totally insignificant publications (not counting his
Holocaust denial drivel).
Let the lying sack of shit join this forum, it will be fun
to tear him apart. He's still alive, right?
I'll Always Be 01/03/11
Amazing how dense you are. Here's a scenario that could have happened. If you
don't like it, prove that it couldn't have happened:
Bomber with pilots carrying ballpoint pens get shot down. Is this impossible?
All crew are killed. Is this impossible?
All crew are captured. Is this impossible?
Crew effects are removed from living crew or bodies. Is this impossible?
One of those effects is the ballpoint pen. Is this impossible?
Those ballpoint pens end up on the black market as trade goods by the Germans
for local food, drink or women. Is this impossible?
The ballpoint pen winds its way thru the "food chain". Is this impossible?
One of them makes its way to Anne. Is this impossible?
or as has been explained to you repeatedly, the pens were available in Argentina
as the Birome brand (portmanteau of Bíró and Meyne) in 1940 so it's not
impossible that they reached Holland via German businessmen
I'll Always Be 01/03/11
Johannes von Ebersdorf <eber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ball point pens were not commercially available in any quantity until
> the mid 1950s.
As is usual, you are just plain wrong: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils
teamed up with Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the
United States. At about the same time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds saw a
Biro pen in a store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and returned
to the U.S. to found the Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro
design without license as the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to
market in late 1945; the first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department
store in New York City on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely
known as the rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s."
Do try to keep up.
Ernie
"rincewind" <edrh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1746a513-c11d-475e...@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>>>asshole farrel is responsible. Ernie
Ernie
> "rincewind" <edrho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Go finger yourself you dishonest stupid whining cowardly vile piece of
shit. Ernie
NEMO
hunt down a poor, dead, 14 year old Jewish girl, who died at the Nazi
hand?
You're pitiful - just like all Nazis, you've got to sift through the
bones of dead Jews like a ghoul!
You're a disgusting piece of human garbage!
Marcus
> On Mar 1, 7:39 pm, "Ernie" <Ernie...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "rincewind" <edrho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1746a513-c11d-475e...@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 1, 6:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> > > Most of her so called diary
> > > was written in ball point pen
> > > that weren't available until
> > > 1951.
>
> > How do you know "most of" the diary is written in ballpoint?
> > It's been written that the father made notations in the diaries after
> > she died and he was released.
> > How do you know, for a fact, that these "ballpoint" entries aren't his
> > and not hers?
>
> > >>>asshole farrel is responsible. Ernie- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
No thanks. Marcus
george
> On 01/03/2011 20:18, george wrote:
>
> > On Mar 2, 12:03 am, Nomen Nescio<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> >> Most of her so called diary
> >> was written in ball point pen
> >> that weren't available until
> >> 1951.
>
> > Wrong.
> > But then being a nazi wannabe you know that
> > The Trademarked Biro was available before WW2.
> > But then being a nazi wannabe you know that.
>
> Bad luck. It happens that Faurisson was a Professor who lectured on
> "Analysis and interpretation of documents"...
Even worse luck for you.
He was a nazi sympathiser
The Man From Havana
2 thumbs up for this informative post. many thanks.
mirjam
Jason P
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <7dc6dad2-f7ea-4c59-bfa2-4dffe3caa...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> Jason P <jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > Most of her so called diary
> > > was written in ball point pen
> > > that weren't available until
> > > 1951.
>
> > Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
>
> Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know that,
> you've been told that any number of times
>
AND... that means....? ...that ballpoint pens were NOT around in
1947???
Do the math old boy; and do the logic too while you're at it.
As I started to explain 1947-48 is a tipping point date because it was
AROUND this time that ballpoint pens began to be mass marketed by I
forget exactly which pen company in the U.S. - might be Parker.
No amount of previous British Bomber Pilots issuance and usage will
undo the fact that "ballpoints were around in 1947..."
Newsflash: they were also around in 1957, 1967, 1977, 1987, 1997, 2007
as well as in 2011. Hello, hello...!
This pretty much explains why I rarely bother to answer any of your
stupid posts. You're kill-filed on most my more discreet Usenet
messaging software.
> You can provide proof of this assertion? I mean reproducible proof that has been
> peer reviewed
>
Actually, I was hoping someone would devise a scientific test for such
a high touted "historic" claim - maybe they already have. Perhaps some
form of destructive chemical testing would prove or disprove the
document's authenticity. Hence my allusion to the Shroud of Turin,
which after recent limited - destructive - tests proved out to be a
genuine phony.
Wake up! You know you're stupid right? ...I thought not, most stupid
people never figure it out.
Jason P
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <j9pqm6dnr04siqfarbg0f3vjna8qmtn...@4ax.com>,
> Johannes von Ebersdorf <ebersd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:49:27 +0100, Zulu <z...@freespeech.com> wrote:
>
> > >On 01/03/2011 19:19, I'll Always Be 01/03/11 wrote:
> > >> In
> > >> Jason P<jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Most of her so called diary
> > >>>> was written in ball point pen
> > >>>> that weren't available until
> > >>>> 1951.
>
> > >>> Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
>
> > >> Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know
> > >> that,
> > >> you've been told that any number of times
>
> > >Yeah, and some pilot dropped one just upon the Anne's house while
> > >passing by Holland.
>
> > Ball point pens were not commercially available in any quantity until
> > the mid 1950s.
>
> As is usual, you are just plain wrong: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils
> teamed up with Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the
> United States. At about the same time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds saw a
> Biro pen in a store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and returned
> to the U.S. to found the Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro
> design without license as the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to
> market in late 1945; the first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department
> store in New York City on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely
> known as the rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s."
>
> Do try to keep up.
Ballpoint pens were around in 1947, dummy!
NEMO
Is that what they used to write on your birth certificate, Pisspot"
Father Unkown (Mother had 21 customers that day. Race unknown (Chinese/
Negro?))
Ernie
>
> - Show quoted text -
Go finger yourself you dishonest stupid whining cowardly vile piece of
shit. Ernie
last_per...@yahoo.com
> http://www.annefrank.org/
There's another Anne Frank franchise Holocaust™ McMuseum
near where I live in Sandy Springs GA. The place always looks
deserted.
Question: What other ethnic group has such an in-your-face
presence in this country about people and events that never
occurred on American soil?
Answer: None.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> In article <1bb70f94d13275fe1d3428f2d3165...@dizum.com>,
> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> >Most of her so called diary
> >was written in ball point pen
> >that weren't available until
> >1951.
>
> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
The real question is how much of it was written by her money-grubbing
daddy after her death, Kenny Boi?
>
> FACT: The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
> issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
Ballpoint pens would've not been available to Anne Frank,
the evidence shows.
> I guess that makes you a Leading Revisionist Scholar,
> eh?
You're just projecting, Toady.
Zulu
> In article<4d6d4fcb$1...@news.x-privat.org>, Zulu<zu...@freespeech.com> wrote:
>
>> Bad luck. It happens that Faurisson was a Professor who lectured on
>> "Analysis and interpretation of documents"...
>
> Garbage.
>
> The "Professor" Faurisson, according to Google Scholar, has
> three totally insignificant publications (not counting his
> Holocaust denial drivel).
Insignificant?
That "insignificance" which provoked the implementation of a specific
French law to censure the promulgation of his work?
In 1983, a French Court acknowledged the seriousness his work and the
legitimacy of an open debate about gas chambers , that wasn't affordable
by the usual holowhiners.
The dogs couldn't stop to whine until they obtained their bone called
"Gayssot Act".
Tell me about another example of "insignificant work" which needed a
specific law to impeach his promulgation...
Zulu
Usual ad hominem attacks. Just Prove it, duddy.
Despite exterminationists would like a lot to have Faurisson as a
supporter of Hitler, himself always claimed he is apolitical. His fight
is for the truth and nobody proved his researches are inconsistent or
his results wrong.
In opposite, Raul Hilberg invented 2 "Hitler's orders of extermination".
That was proved obviously false.(Zundel's trial, Toronto 1985)
About many lies on Wiki
"In 1991, Faurisson was removed from his university chair on the basis
of his views under the Gayssot Act"
He was not removed because of the Gayssot Act (which is a penal law),
but he mas moved from the university to the center of distance education
because the university could not protect him from potential assaults
(ie. what mattered to the university was the threats against him, not
the cause of these threats).
Faurisson Credentials
Faurisson was, to his knowledge, the first person to publish the plans
of Krema I and Kremas II and III. These crematories, located at
Auschwitz-Birkenau, were the buildings which allegedly contained the
homicidal gas chambers. For the purpose of studying gas chambers,
Faurisson had gone to Baltimore, Maryland in the United States to
investigate and photograph American gas chamber facilities. His
objective was to see how convicts condemned to death were killed in the
facilities through use of hydrocyanic acid. This was relevant to the
study of the German gas chambers since the agent allegedly used to kill
the Jews, Zyklon B, contained hydrocyanic acid.
In the early to mid 1980s, Faurisson was sued at least three times under
complex French and international laws over his denial of essential
points within Holocaust history. The potential for incitement of racial
hatred was cited as a primary concern in at least one trial. Faurisson
was convicted on reduced charges which carried virtually no penalties.
He credits one such relative victory to the tactic of asking the
opposition for one piece of evidence only: proof that any single
homicidal gas chamber existed. No such proof was produced during any of
his trials though numerous lawyers representing multiple interests from
several nations were available to present evidence against him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Robert_Faurisson
Faurisson visited the nazi camps, especially Auschwitz, while
researching on the Hitlerite AMDs.
That is not the case of the famous holopope Mr. Raul Hilberg who
confessed od having visited none to write his bible "The destruction of
the European Jews". (Zundel's trial, Toronto 1985)
Zulu
> In article<4d6d4dcb$1...@news.x-privat.org>, Zulu<zu...@freespeech.com> wrote:
>
>> On 01/03/2011 19:19, I'll Always Be 01/03/11 wrote:
>>> In
>>> article<7dc6dad2-f7ea-4c59...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Jason P<jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>>> Most of her so called diary
>>>>> was written in ball point pen
>>>>> that weren't available until
>>>>> 1951.
>>>>
>>>> Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
>>>
>>> Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know
>>> that,
>>> you've been told that any number of times
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, and some pilot dropped one just upon the Anne's house while
>> passing by Holland.
>
> Amazing how dense you are. Here's a scenario that could have happened. If you
> don't like it, prove that it couldn't have happened:
>
> Bomber with pilots carrying ballpoint pens get shot down. Is this impossible?
>
> All crew are killed. Is this impossible?
> All crew are captured. Is this impossible?
>
> Crew effects are removed from living crew or bodies. Is this impossible?
>
> One of those effects is the ballpoint pen. Is this impossible?
So, now that is the plane and not the ballpoint pen which fell on the
Anne's house?
Zulu
I think it would be more valuable a Museum dedicated to the martyr of
freedom Rachel Corrie.
While Anne Frank was the toy of the war events, Rachel Corrie wanted to
act against the injustice and demonstrated her courage against the
barbarism.
She paid his action with her life, Anne Frank died by disease..
%
ernie admits farrels method works
RichA
None that represent 3% of the population. But then blacks (22%) and
latinos (15%) don't control huge sections of the media either.
Kenneth McVay OBC
In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation
submitted Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State
Forensic Science Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to
determine their authenticity.
The State Forensic Science Laboratory examined the materials
used-- the ink, paper, glue, etc.--and the handwriting and
issued a report of some 270 pages. "The report of the State
Forensic Science Laboratory has convincingly demonstrated that
both versions of the diary of Anne Frank were written by her
in the years 1942 to 1944.
The allegations that the diary was the work of someone else
(after the war or otherwise) are thus conclusively refuted."
Furthermore, that "despite corrections and omissions...
_The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank_ [i.e., the published version of
the diaries] does indeed contain `the essence' of Anne's
writings, and that there are no grounds on which the term
`forgery' can be applied to the work of the editors or
publishers of the book."
Anne Frank, _The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank:_The_Critical_Edition_,
Prepared by the Netherlands State Institute for War
Documentation, edited by David Barnouw and Gerrold Van Der
Stroom, (New York, Doubleday, 1989) p. 166.
Kenneth McVay OBC
<last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mar 1, 11:28 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>> In article <1bb70f94d13275fe1d3428f2d3165...@dizum.com>,
>> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Most of her so called diary
>> >was written in ball point pen
>> >that weren't available until
>> >1951.
>>
>> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
>
>The real question is how much of it was written by her money-grubbing
>daddy after her death, Kenny Boi?
http://nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/f/frank.anne/holland.003:
Zulu
3%????
Don't you know that little dogs bark louder?
USA
Religions:
Protestant 51.3%,
Roman Catholic 23.9%,
Mormon 1.7%,
other Christian 1.6%,
Jewish 1.7%,
Buddhist 0.7%,
Muslim 0.6%,
other or unspecified 2.5%,
unaffiliated 12.1%,
none 4% (2007 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
ed wolf
with the possible exception of European Christian Churches.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> In article <26d410c5-20f3-40b8-8cfa-31a9bcd5e...@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> <last_permutat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 1, 11:28 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> >> In article <1bb70f94d13275fe1d3428f2d3165...@dizum.com>,
> >> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Most of her so called diary
> >> >was written in ball point pen
> >> >that weren't available until
> >> >1951.
>
> >> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
>
> >The real question is how much of it was written by her money-grubbing
> >daddy after her death, Kenny Boi?
>
> http://nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/f/frank.anne/holland.003:
>
> In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation
> submitted Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State
> Forensic Science Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to
> determine their authenticity.
>
> The State Forensic Science Laboratory examined the materials
> used-- the ink, paper, glue, etc.--and the handwriting and
> issued a report of some 270 pages. "The report of the State
> Forensic Science Laboratory has convincingly demonstrated that
> both versions of the diary of Anne Frank were written by her
> in the years 1942 to 1944.
>
> The allegations that the diary was the work of someone else
> (after the war or otherwise) are thus conclusively refuted."
And the U.S. Congress conclusively and constantly refutes that
ZioNazi Israel commits war crimes and acts disproportionally
in response to the most feeble of threats to their fake state.
Facts say otherwise Kenny. ZioNazis have a way of corrupting
"official findings" Kenny Boi.
NEMO
McVay OBC) wrote:
>http://nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/f/frank.anne/holland.003:
>
>In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation
>submitted Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State
>Forensic Science Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to
>determine their authenticity.
>
Hey Kenny cut the crap. Meet me on Chruch Street in Toronto we can get
to the "bottom" of it! You hump me then I'll hump you.
You like it in the ass like me, right?
I'll Always Be 02/03/11
> >> Yeah, and some pilot dropped one just upon the Anne's house while
> >> passing by Holland.
> >
> > Amazing how dense you are. Here's a scenario that could have happened. If
> > you
> > don't like it, prove that it couldn't have happened:
> >
> > Bomber with pilots carrying ballpoint pens get shot down. Is this
> > impossible?
> >
> > All crew are killed. Is this impossible?
> > All crew are captured. Is this impossible?
> >
> > Crew effects are removed from living crew or bodies. Is this impossible?
> >
> > One of those effects is the ballpoint pen. Is this impossible?
>
> So, now that is the plane and not the ballpoint pen which fell on the
> Anne's house?
So you didn't understand a single point I made. No wonder you won't submit any
of your "work" for peer review
I'll Always Be 02/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >Yeah, and some pilot dropped one just upon the Anne's house while
> > > >passing by Holland.
> >
> > > Ball point pens were not commercially available in any quantity until the
> > > mid 1950s.
> >
> > As is usual, you are just plain wrong: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical
> > pencils teamed up with Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for
> > sales in the United States. At about the same time a U.S. businessman,
> > Milton Reynolds saw a Biro pen in a store in Buenos Aires. He purchased
> > several samples and returned to the U.S. to found the Reynolds
> > International Pen Company, producing the Biro design without license as the
> > Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to market in late 1945; the
> > first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department store in New York
> > City on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely known as the
> > rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s."
> >
> > Do try to keep up.
>
> Ballpoint pens were around in 1947, dummy!
So you are capable of understanding facts! Good!
I'll Always Be 02/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:19 am, I'll Always Be 01/03/11 <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <7dc6dad2-f7ea-4c59-bfa2-4dffe3caa...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, Jason
> > P <jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > > Most of her so called diary was written in ball point pen that weren't
> > > > available until 1951.
> >
> > > Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
> >
> > Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know
> > that, you've been told that any number of times
> >
>
>
> AND... that means....? ...that ballpoint pens were NOT around in 1947???
No, it means that some arrogant negationist was wrong in saying that ballpoint
pens weren't available until 1951. Not to mention the claim that "most" of her
diary was written in ballpoint pen.
>
> Do the math old boy; and do the logic too while you're at it.
>
> As I started to explain 1947-48 is a tipping point date because it was AROUND
> this time that ballpoint pens began to be mass marketed by I forget exactly
> which pen company in the U.S. - might be Parker.
Who cares about tipping points? The fact is that they were commercially
available before that: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils teamed up with
Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the United States.
At about the same time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds saw a Biro pen in a
store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and returned to the U.S. to
found the Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro design without
license as the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to market in late
1945; the first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department store in New
York City on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely known as the
rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s.
Do the math
>
> No amount of previous British Bomber Pilots issuance and usage will undo the
> fact that "ballpoints were around in 1947..."
>
> Newsflash: they were also around in 1957, 1967, 1977, 1987, 1997, 2007 as
> well as in 2011. Hello, hello...!
>
> This pretty much explains why I rarely bother to answer any of your stupid
> posts. You're kill-filed on most my more discreet Usenet messaging software.
I'm so depressed. Apparently, you, like most of your ilk is unable to actually
ignore me so you blame your software.
Why not admit that the real reason you don't answer my posts is that you never
have a viable response.
>
>
> > You can provide proof of this assertion? I mean reproducible proof that has
> > been peer reviewed
> >
>
>
> Actually, I was hoping someone would devise a scientific test for such a high
> touted "historic" claim - maybe they already have. Perhaps some form of
> destructive chemical testing would prove or disprove the document's
> authenticity. Hence my allusion to the Shroud of Turin, which after recent
> limited - destructive - tests proved out to be a genuine phony.
And once again I ask you to provide proof of this assertion, you know
reproducible proof that has been peer reviewed
>
> Wake up! You know you're stupid right? ...I thought not, most stupid people
> never figure it out.
Let us know when you figure it out. LOL
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Marcus
Too much information. Marcus
David Johnston
The Irish.
NEMO
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:15:56 -0600, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
Awh, po' ol' lil' MooseShit's sock puppet misses Jason Pisspot's hand
puppet!
last_per...@yahoo.com
Don't hold back. Let's hear about it. While you're at it
give a comparison of the % of Americans of Irish heritage
compared to % of Americans of hebrew heritage.
Zulu
What I understand is that you think that everybody's are assholes like you.
NEMO
presence in this country about people and events that never
occurred on American soil?"
The Nazi sponsored "German Bund" & the "America First" (Charles
Lindbergh/Joe Kennedy) in prewar U.S.A. (!938-41)!
Jason P
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <e6f72abf-c078-47f6-9b90-f058900ff...@o18g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> Jason P <jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 10:19 am, I'll Always Be 01/03/11 <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <7dc6dad2-f7ea-4c59-bfa2-4dffe3caa...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, Jason
> > > P <jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > > > Most of her so called diary was written in ball point pen that weren't
> > > > > available until 1951.
>
> > > > Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
>
> > > Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should know
> > > that, you've been told that any number of times
>
> > AND... that means....? ...that ballpoint pens were NOT around in 1947???
>
Your message as first posted linked to mine intimates that you
believed they were not around in 1947. Do the math! Do the logic
associated with it, while you're at it!
> No, it means that some arrogant negationist was wrong in saying that ballpoint
> pens weren't available until 1951. Not to mention the claim that "most" of her
> diary was written in ballpoint pen.
Not my post... so, why answer it linked to my post? Stupidity...?
Obviously so...
>
>
>
> > Do the math old boy; and do the logic too while you're at it.
>
> > As I started to explain 1947-48 is a tipping point date because it was AROUND
> > this time that ballpoint pens began to be mass marketed by I forget exactly
> > which pen company in the U.S. - might be Parker.
>
> Who cares about tipping points? The fact is that they were commercially
> available before that: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils teamed up with
> Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the United States.
> At about the same time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds saw a Biro pen in a
> store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and returned to the U.S. to
> found the Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro design without
> license as the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to market in late
> 1945; the first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department store in New
> York City on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely known as the
> rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s.
>
Quite right, which reflects what my post reviewed - save misnaming the
original company that mass marketed the device. A minuscule matter
except in your twisted Judaic mind. Late in 1945 easily equate to
1947 before they caught on in real numbers anywhere, which is the
whole point of the thread. Logic not being your forte...
The whole British pilots regurgitation (from Wikipedia obviously) was
not a "commercial" endeavor by the way. It was more like a wartime
social experiment - some would call it "market research."
> Do the math
>
>
Yes do it!
>
> > No amount of previous British Bomber Pilots issuance and usage will undo the
> > fact that "ballpoints were around in 1947..."
>
> > Newsflash: they were also around in 1957, 1967, 1977, 1987, 1997, 2007 as
> > well as in 2011. Hello, hello...!
>
> > This pretty much explains why I rarely bother to answer any of your stupid
> > posts. You're kill-filed on most my more discreet Usenet messaging software.
>
> I'm so depressed. Apparently, you, like most of your ilk is unable to actually
> ignore me so you blame your software.
>
Well, don't shoot yourself.
> Why not admit that the real reason you don't answer my posts is that you never
> have a viable response.
>
No you're an idiot, as are the 41 different pseudonyms you insanely
inhabit.
>
>
> > > You can provide proof of this assertion? I mean reproducible proof that has
> > > been peer reviewed
>
> > Actually, I was hoping someone would devise a scientific test for such a high
> > touted "historic" claim - maybe they already have. Perhaps some form of
> > destructive chemical testing would prove or disprove the document's
> > authenticity. Hence my allusion to the Shroud of Turin, which after recent
> > limited - destructive - tests proved out to be a genuine phony.
>
> And once again I ask you to provide proof of this assertion, you know
> reproducible proof that has been peer reviewed
>
>
>
> > Wake up! You know you're stupid right? ...I thought not, most stupid people
> > never figure it out.
>
> Let us know when you figure it out. LOL
>
> --
>
or when YOU do! lol
> --
Blah, blah, blah..
Jason P
That fucking weenie couldn't compare shit with shinola.
NEMO
But you sure can, Jason Pisspot, you sure can - right, Bucko?
Not Sure
> On 02/03/2011 15:10, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > On Mar 1, 11:47 pm, mirjam<mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> >>http://www.annefrank.org/
>
> > There's another Anne Frank franchise Holocaust McMuseum
> > near where I live in Sandy Springs GA. The place always looks
> > deserted.
>
> > Question: What other ethnic group has such an in-your-face
> > presence in this country about people and events that never
> > occurred on American soil?
>
> > Answer: None.
>
> I think it would be more valuable a Museum dedicated to the martyr of
> freedom Rachel Corrie.
Who stood in front of a bulldozer like an idiot so her suicide bomber
heroes wouldn't continue being murdered en-masse by Israel.
Mason Barge
>On Mar 1, 11:47 pm, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>> http://www.annefrank.org/
>
>There's another Anne Frank franchise Holocaust™ McMuseum
>near where I live in Sandy Springs GA. The place always looks
>deserted.
>
>Question: What other ethnic group has such an in-your-face
>presence in this country about people and events that never
>occurred on American soil?
I dunno. There are all these big buildings down the street where they
talk about stuff that happened in the Middle East 2000 years ago. Of
course those were Jews too, never mind.
Benj
> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
You mean: FACT. No part of the current faked version of Anne's diary
is written ballpoint.
> FACT: The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
> issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
Which proves? NOTHING. It's just some more "plausible" stuff you are
supposed to have everyone jump to some conclusion from without
thinking. How many ballpoints were there during WWII? FACT: We all
know the answer to that one.
And this doesn't even get into the plagiarism court case brought by a
man claiming to have been the original author of the diary. Of course
all such court records have been sealed for years and this scam is so
important to some parties that anyone actually finding proof of the
forgery would probably be found to have committed suicide by shooting
themselves three times in the back of the head.
> I guess that makes you a Leading Revisionist Scholar,
> eh?
And that makes you? The truth can't be kept hidden forever in spite
of the best efforts of the best of the Jews.
Kenneth McVay OBC
Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>On Mar 1, 11:28 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
>
>You mean: FACT. No part of the current faked version of Anne's diary
>is written ballpoint.
No, I mean: FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written
in ballpoint.
http://nizkor.org/ftp.py/people/f/frank.anne/holland.003:
In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation
submitted Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State
Forensic Science Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to
determine their authenticity.
The State Forensic Science Laboratory examined the materials
used-- the ink, paper, glue, etc.--and the handwriting and
issued a report of some 270 pages. "The report of the State
Forensic Science Laboratory has convincingly demonstrated that
both versions of the diary of Anne Frank were written by her
in the years 1942 to 1944.
The allegations that the diary was the work of someone else
(after the war or otherwise) are thus conclusively refuted."
Furthermore, that "despite corrections and omissions...
_The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank_ [i.e., the published version of
the diaries] does indeed contain `the essence' of Anne's
writings, and that there are no grounds on which the term
`forgery' can be applied to the work of the editors or
publishers of the book."
Anne Frank, _The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank:_The_Critical_Edition_,
Prepared by the Netherlands State Institute for War
last_per...@yahoo.com
> On Mar 2, 6:59 am, Zulu <z...@freespeech.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 02/03/2011 15:10, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 1, 11:47 pm, mirjam<mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> > >>http://www.annefrank.org/
>
> > > There's another Anne Frank franchise Holocaust McMuseum
> > > near where I live in Sandy Springs GA. The place always looks
> > > deserted.
>
> > > Question: What other ethnic group has such an in-your-face
> > > presence in this country about people and events that never
> > > occurred on American soil?
>
> > > Answer: None.
>
> > I think it would be more valuable a Museum dedicated to the martyr of
> > freedom Rachel Corrie.
>
> Who stood in front of a bulldozer like an idiot so her suicide bomber
> heroes wouldn't continue being murdered en-masse by Israel.
Who drove over the unarmed 110 lb. girl with a full-sized dozer?
A ZioNazi coward; human of the lowest order.
She exhibited the two things a ZioNazi coward turd has no knowledge
of: bravery and honor.
CUNTICA
I'll Always Be 02/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Mar 1, 3:03 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Most of her so called diary was written in ball point pen that
> > > > > > weren't available until 1951.
> >
> > > > > Ballpoints were around in 1947 - rare and expensive, but around.
> >
> > > > Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber Pilots in WWII...you should
> > > > know that, you've been told that any number of times
> >
> > > AND... that means....? ...that ballpoint pens were NOT around in 1947???
> >
>
> Your message as first posted linked to mine intimates that you believed they
> were not around in 1947.
Which of course explains why I said "Ballpoints were issued to British Bomber
Pilots in WWII" and also posted this: "In 1940 the Bíró brothers and a friend,
Juan Jorge Meyne, fled Nazi Germany and moved to Argentina. On 10 June they
filed another patent and formed Bíró Pens of Argentina. The pen was sold in
Argentina under the Birome brand (portmanteau of Bíró and Meyne), which is how
ballpoint pens are still known in that country. László was known in Argentina as
Ladislao José Bíró. This new design was licensed by the British, who produced
ball point pens for RAF aircrew as the Biro; they found they worked much better
than fountain pens at high altitude, the latter being prone to ink-leakage in
the decreased atmospheric pressure.
Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils teamed up with Eberhard-Faber in May
1945 to license the design for sales in the United States. At about the same
time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds saw a Biro pen in a store in Buenos
Aires. He purchased several samples and returned to the U.S. to found the
Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro design without license as
the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to market in late 1945; the
first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department store in New York City
on 29 October 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely known as the rocket in
the U.S. into the late 1950s."
> Do the math! Do the logic associated with it, while you're at it!
Don't have to. Perhaps instead you should learn to read
>
>
> > No, it means that some arrogant negationist was wrong in saying that
> > ballpoint pens weren't available until 1951. Not to mention the claim that
> > "most" of her diary was written in ballpoint pen.
>
> Not my post... so, why answer it linked to my post? Stupidity...? Obviously
> so...
Indeed you are
> > Who cares about tipping points? The fact is that they were commercially
> > available before that: "Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils teamed up
> > with Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the
> > United States. At about the same time a U.S. businessman, Milton Reynolds
> > saw a Biro pen in a store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and
> > returned to the U.S. to found the Reynolds International Pen Company,
> > producing the Biro design without license as the Reynolds Rocket. He
> > managed to beat Eversharp to market in late 1945; the first ballpoint pens
> > went on sale at Gimbels department store in New York City on 29 October
> > 1945 for US$9.75 each. This pen was widely known as the rocket in the U.S.
> > into the late 1950s.
> >
>
> Quite right, which reflects what my post reviewed - save misnaming the
> original company that mass marketed the device. A minuscule matter except in
> your twisted Judaic mind. Late in 1945 easily equate to 1947 before they
> caught on in real numbers anywhere, which is the whole point of the thread.
> Logic not being your forte...
The point was never about when they caught on, just when they were commercially
available. And "late in 1945" would more readily equate to 1946, unless one were
to use revisionist mathmatics.
>
> The whole British pilots regurgitation (from Wikipedia obviously) was not a
> "commercial" endeavor by the way. It was more like a wartime social
> experiment - some would call it "market research."
The market research was done in Argentina. I never tried to conflate British
Pilots using ballpoint pens as a "commercial" endeavor, although clearly since
the pens had to be manufactured and indeed were purchased, they most certainly
qualify as a "commercial" endeavor. However, if you read my posts carefully
(LOL) you will notice that I was making the point that they were commercially
available much earlier than your spurious and totally unsupported assertion of
1947.
> >
> > > This pretty much explains why I rarely bother to answer any of your
> > > stupid posts. You're kill-filed on most my more discreet Usenet messaging
> > > software.
> >
> > I'm so depressed. Apparently, you, like most of your ilk is unable to
> > actually ignore me so you blame your software.
> >
>
> Well, don't shoot yourself.
Lack of response noted
>
> > Why not admit that the real reason you don't answer my posts is that you
> > never have a viable response.
> >
>
> No you're an idiot, as are the 41 different pseudonyms you insanely inhabit.
Oh, not that old unprovable canard again. Do try to be original. Or at least do
try to show us YOUR proof of this statement. Can't do it, can you?
>
> >
> >
> > > > You can provide proof of this assertion? I mean reproducible proof that
> > > > has been peer reviewed
> >
> > > Actually, I was hoping someone would devise a scientific test for such a
> > > high touted "historic" claim - maybe they already have. Perhaps some form
> > > of destructive chemical testing would prove or disprove the document's
> > > authenticity. Hence my allusion to the Shroud of Turin, which after
> > > recent limited - destructive - tests proved out to be a genuine phony.
> >
> > And once again I ask you to provide proof of this assertion, you know
> > reproducible proof that has been peer reviewed
Still no response. Who here is surprised?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Wake up! You know you're stupid right? ...I thought not, most stupid
> > > people never figure it out.
> >
> > Let us know when you figure it out. LOL
> >
> > --
> >
>
> or when YOU do! lol
Thanking you for admitting your failures.
>
>
>
> > --
>
> Blah, blah, blah..
Yes you are.
CUNTICA
turd has no knowledge of: bravery and honour.", did the bulldozer
backup over her after making her a pancake?
I'll Always Be 02/03/11
Not true. I just think that you like to make inflammatory posts that contain
incorrect information and that you seldom admit that you were wrong. However, I
still see that you refuse to refute my scenario. Figures
Ernie
>
> - Show quoted text -
Go finger yourself you dishonest stupid whining cowardly vile piece of
shit. Ernie
Marcus
> shit. Ernie
OK, that would explain it. Marcus
Hunter
wrote:
>On Mar 1, 11:28=A0am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>> In article <1bb70f94d13275fe1d3428f2d3165...@dizum.com>,
>> Nomen Nescio =A0<nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Most of her so called diary
>> >was written in ball point pen
>> >that weren't available until
>> >1951.
>>
>> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
>
>The real question is how much of it was written by her money-grubbing
>daddy after her death, Kenny Boi?
----
None of it, he just edited out the parts she critized her parents and
her growing sexuality.
>>
>> FACT: =A0The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
>> issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
>
>Ballpoint pens would've not been available to Anne Frank,
>the evidence shows.
-----
Well someone said that they ball point pens wouldn't have been
availible until 1951; well then consider the fact that Anne Frank's
diary was first published in 1947. In fact the first articles about it
were written about them as early as April 1946 in the dutch paper "Het
Parool"
>
>> I guess that makes you a Leading Revisionist Scholar,
>> eh?
>
>You're just projecting, Toady.
---
And you are just someone who doesn't know history or want to deny it.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
mirjam
> There's another Anne Frank franchise Holocaust™ McMuseum
> near where I live in Sandy Springs GA. The place always looks
> deserted.
>
> Question: What other ethnic group has such an in-your-face
> presence in this country about people and events that never
> occurred on American soil?
>
> Answer: None.
Soon you will have the Musque near Ground Zero !!!!!
mirjam
mirjam
Kenneth
We have posted these facts about the Official research time and
again, it seems wasted on these people
and probably for them it `is this time of the year again`, .
mirjam
Pepsi
<last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:26d410c5-20f3-40b8...@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 1, 11:28 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <1bb70f94d13275fe1d3428f2d3165...@dizum.com>,
>
> >Most of her so called diary
> >was written in ball point pen
> >that weren't available until
> >1951.
>
> FACT: No part of Anne's diary was written in ballpoint.
The real question is how much of it was written by her money-grubbing
daddy after her death, Kenny Boi?
>
> FACT: The first patent on a ballpoint pen was
> issued on 30 October 1888, to John Loud
Ballpoint pens would've not been available to Anne Frank,
the evidence shows.
Invented in 1888.
WWII - ~1940 - 1945.
Seems like the facts support the idea that Anne Frank certainly could have
used a ball point pen.
WHO CARES, anyway.
someone-who-knows
> On 01/03/2011 21:05, someone-who-knows wrote:
>> The "Professor" Faurisson, according to Google Scholar, has
>> three totally insignificant publications (not counting his
>> Holocaust denial drivel).
> Insignificant?
Yes. A tiny number of publications, apparently in unrefereed
venues, with an infinitesimal number of citations and no
impact of any kind. Academically and intellectually, Faurisson
is an utter and complete zero.
> That "insignificance" which provoked the implementation of a specific
> French law to censure the promulgation of his work?
I assume similar laws hold for other types of nazi propaganda
and child pornography. I guess you assume these are "significant"
as well, you dumb Hitlerite bastard?
alittlesanity
> Is The Diary of Anne Frank genuine?
Yes:
<quote>
In 1981, the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation submitted
Anne Frank's handwritten diaries to the Dutch State Forensic Science
Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice to determine their authenticity.
The State Forensic Science Laboratory examined the materials used--
the ink, paper, glue, etc.--and the handwriting and issued a report of
some 270 pages. "The report of the State Forensic Science Laboratory
has convincingly demonstrated that both versions of the diary of Anne
Frank were written by her in the years 1942 to 1944. The allegations
that the diary was the work of someone else (after the war or
otherwise) are thus conclusively refuted." Furthermore, that "despite
corrections and omissions..._The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank_ [i.e., the
published version of the diaries] does indeed contain `the essence' of
Anne's writings, and that there are no grounds on which the term
`forgery' can be applied to the work of the editors or publishers of
the book." <1>
1. Anne Frank, _The_Diary_of_Anne_Frank:_The_Critical_Edition_,
Prepared by the Netherlands State Institute for War Documentation,
edited by David Barnouw and Gerrold Van Der Stroom, (New York,
Doubleday, 1989) p. 166.
</quote>
Jason P
Re: Anne Frank, the ballpoint girl subj restored
Jason P
Re: Anne Frank, the ballpoint girl subj restored
Kenneth McVay OBC
Facts are *always* wasted on Leading Revisionist
Scholars, Mirjam. I don't post them for deniers - that
would be a waste of time - I post them for the folks
who may be new to this vitriolic type of racism, in
order to expose Holocaust deniers for the racist morons
they are.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> In article <5fe42f71-e128-4439-a876-eaed54ba1...@k10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Most folk fall under the category of Holocaust™ don't-carers,
Kenny, phony whore politicians notwithstanding, Kennyboi.
Ancient history, often altered; several other mass killings
in the 20th Century alone, Toady.
george
> In article <5fe42f71-e128-4439-a876-eaed54ba1...@k10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
True.
The nazi wannabes who repost the same lies year after year know they
are lies, know they will be refuted and yet, because they are nazis,
continue to post...
It has to be some sort of compulsive mental aberration
I'll Always Be 03/03/11
george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
ADHD
last_per...@yahoo.com
Yeah, I agree with your description of the ZioNazi turd.
The Z.T.'s fav saying: Keep repeating the lies until they become
truth.
Z.T.'s have worn it out. ZioNazi turds invented projection.
george
Bzzzzt. Wrong reply little nazi twit.
Is there anything you don't lie about?
last_per...@yahoo.com
I was about to ask you the same question, little ZioNazi wanker.
I'll Always Be 03/03/11
last_per...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > It has to be some sort of compulsive mental aberration
>
> Yeah, I agree with your description of the ZioNazi turd.
> The Z.T.'s fav saying: Keep repeating the lies until they become
> truth.
> Z.T.'s have worn it out. ZioNazi turds invented projection.
So you are a ZioNazi?
Hunter
wrote:
>On Mar 4, 5:56=A0am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>> In article <5fe42f71-e128-4439-a876-eaed54ba1...@k10g2000prh.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>>
>> mirjam =A0<mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>>
>> >Kenneth
>> >We have posted these facts about the Official research =A0time and
>> >again, it seems wasted on these people
>> >and probably for them it `is this time of =A0the year again`, .
>>
>> Facts are *always* wasted on Leading Revisionist
>> Scholars, Mirjam. I don't post them for deniers - that
>> would be a waste of time - I post them for the folks
>> who may be new to this vitriolic type of racism, in
>> order to expose Holocaust deniers for the racist morons
>> they are.
>
>True.
>The nazi wannabes who repost the same lies year after year know they
>are lies, know they will be refuted and yet, because they are nazis,
>continue to post...
>
>It has to be some sort of compulsive mental aberration
---
Hey it was Adolf Hitler himself who came up with the "Big Lie Theory"
in "Mein Kampf". Reputedly it was that if you repeat a lie often
enough it becomes "truth". Actually it is a lie so big and outlandish
it is unbelievable that someone would make up something like that so
it is regarded as the truth. He thought it was the Jews who came up
with it to blame the German loss of World War I on General Erich
Ludendorff.
So this is right in the wheelhouse of Neo Nazis that their master came
up with it or thinking that the Jews are lying about Anne Frank.
Jason P
Something the whining Jews and their supporting goyim seem to miss...
Every other society in history has put aside the hatred and the pain
caused by other groups that have used genocide against them, EXCEPT
the Jews. This might explain why genocide has been revisited so often
upon the Jews by those who would see them persecuted. The Jews never
learned to forgive. And this flaw in their collective ethnic make-up
has caused them much pain, continued regret, and jaw grinding
weeping.
Just about every group subjected to genocide has put aside the pain,
the hurt, the horror and moved on. Not so with the Jews.
"Forgiveness liberates the soul. It removes fear. That is why it is
such a powerful weapon.”
- Nelson Mandela
Mandela was a man who spent 27 years confined to a very small cell;
put there by the people he ultimately was compelled to forgive. And he
taught others of his race to do the same. The Jews never had such a
prophet among them (except maybe Jesus of Nazareth). They couldn't
produce anyone big enough to teach the rest of them to move past the
pain of their collective bereavement.
What they NEVER learned as a society, was by refusing to forgive the
Germans (most recently in Europe) they only wind up only hurting
themselves in the end.
Unable to escape the cycle of social abuses among themselves, they
transferred their innate hatred of Germans (or Nazis) to anyone
happening to be born an Arab, or anyone else reasonably questioning
the validity of the tall tales from the Jewish crypt (aka the
"holocaust").
Topaz
Here are quotes from a speech delivered by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
at the National Socialist Party Congress, Nuernberg, 1937.
mirjam
> Facts are *always* wasted on Leading Revisionist
> Scholars,
None of those posters here is a scholar, nor are they revisionists
and as to leading ???
maybe the lead themselves into believing they are the above.
>Mirjam. I don't post them for deniers - that
> would be a waste of time - I post them for the folks
> who may be new to this vitriolic type of racism, in
> order to expose Holocaust deniers for the racist morons
> they are.
I know you do that, for all the good reasons, Kenneth,
just as i posted it foe newcomers, so they will understand, that those
Deniers do their posts in cycles ,,,,
mirjam
mirjam
>>
> Most folk fall under the category of Holocaust™ don't-carers,
mirjam
Jason P
You sure waste a lot of time posting your we-are-not-evil-turdsness,
even though you, as a group, inherently are!
Jason P
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <70590fad-0447-474c-a831-2744788c6...@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com>,
Is that the root of your obsessive-compulsive maniacal posts, Barry
the Sheenie?
NEMO
So, Pisspot, is penis envy at the root of your obsessive-compulsive
maniacal posts?
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
So you still suffer from obsessive-compulsive belief that everyone is Barry? not
surprising from someone so willing to prove he is a racist
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Something the whining Jews and their supporting goyim seem to miss...
>
> Every other society in history has put aside the hatred and the pain
> caused by other groups that have used genocide against them, EXCEPT
> the Jews.
Apparently your education doesn't include Armenians, nor does it include Muslims
or even blacks. One only has to go as far as heinie to see that he hasn't put
aside his hatred of those that liberated the Netherlands but rather worships
those that enslaved them. And you are so painfully ignorant of what xians think
about what was done to their early progenitors. Why is that?
Obviously you are the poster child for what is wrong with public education.
NEMO
"Obviously you are the poster child for what is wrong with public
education."
Jason Pisspot was a Junior College tutor in Stanford, California - he
was the problem!
"One only has to go as far as heinie to see that he hasn't put
aside his hatred of those that liberated the Netherlands but rather
worships
those that enslaved them"
It's a wonder that Heirich knows what day of the week it is let alone
remember to wear pants!
thomas p.
news:70590fad-0447-474c...@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
thomas p wrote:
Anti-Semitism is like other bigotries. The anti-Semite does not hate Jews
because of the terrible things they have done; he tells terrible stories
about them because he hates them. Whether the stories are true or not is a
matter of complete irrelevance for the anti-Semite. The more intelligent
among the bigots are actually amused by people who bring up objective data
to refute them. You see clear examples of this amusement in the posts of
(for example) many of the homophobes, who delibrately claim incredible
nonsense about homosexuals merely to provoke a response.
The Peeler
the dumbest trolls around, wrote:
<snip most of the usual verbose inane blather>
> Just about every group subjected to genocide has put aside the pain,
> the hurt, the horror and moved on. Not so with the Jews.
I told you already before that your claim is complete bullshit. The
Armenians are still fighting to get their genocide recognized and they keep
"whining" as you idiotically put it. Other ethnicites are doing the same.
Your example of Mandela is TYPICAL of your stupidity and your notorious use
of verbose garbage to baffle the reader with. He and the group of people he
belongs to, were not succumbed to a "genocide"! So your example is
completely off the point. Besides, Mandela is a prominent succesful
politician who saw most of his political aims realized. It's EASY for HIM
to pardon anyone and show his generosity.
Also, while an individual MAY have the spiritual strength to pardon the
criminals that committed the genocide, you can't DEMAND it of anyone and
especially not of an entire people.
And yes, I've seen interviews with Jews who had survived the death camps
(and who had often lost many close relatives) that PARDONED the Germans and
no longer hold a grudge against them.
Personally, I don't believe I, or most people, would have this almost
superhuman moral strength. YOU certainly don't have it, as YOU can't
stop whining about "the Jews" who, admit it, didn't even do anything
to you, you sick neurotic slimy anti-Semitic bastard!
The Peeler
the dumbest trolls around, wrote:
Still claiming you are no anti-Semite, you hypocrite? Anyway, your post
copied and saved! ;-)
Kenneth McVay OBC
Topaz <nakedearsw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> Here are quotes from a speech delivered by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
>at the National Socialist Party Congress, Nuernberg, 1937.
(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for
the first 164 -- (Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)
165. "What Nazi crab look at your own fabrications."
<gSwnm.42278$Db2.2387@edtnps83>, Sept. 3, 2009
166. "I personally think the use this holocaust denial crab
to scare others." <NXRom.42961$Db2.7658@edtnps83>,
Sept. 6, 2009
167. "Intersting what date what posings heading i am courious."
<0igpm.44144$PH1.22994@edtnps82>, Sept. 7, 2009
168. "We are talking about gassings don't we."
<vEgpm.44148$PH1.40649@edtnps82>, Sept. 7, 2009
169. "Only the naive will belive what Wiesenthal says edjucatet
people can think for themselfs."
<vNvqm.43567$Db2.12876@edtnps83>, Sept. 12, 2009
170. "People who wend to university should have a higher education.
When they come out latter on the are full of arrogance and
not considered normal human being. We say here this fuckers
did have their education in a slime factory and their arrogance
is very apparent visible. " <qG7vm.46534$PH1.45557@edtnps82>,
Sept.25, 2009
Jason P
> In article <156d4abf-9723-481b-9a28-e387badca...@by6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Send us some evil quotes from the vegetable Ariel Sharon, on killing
indigenous Palestinians in their own homes in the name of Israeli
"freedom." They exist, post them too.
Jason P
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <9ae3b849-2274-47fc-8b64-6d74b9e43...@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Jews have been vindicated over and over again. Armenians have not.
Ditto that with many Moslems and with hordes of black - though not so
much anymore.
The Jew's "anti-Semitic" paradigm is nothing less than whining with
two loaves of bread under each arm. It's old, it's tired, and it holds
no water. Apparently YOUR education doesn't reach past your myopic
point of view on all things Judaic, Mr. BARRY the Sheenie.
You're an idiot and you always have been one, since the day you
emerged from the womb. You are the epitome of Usenet SPAM. And...
you're a lying cock-sucker, BARRY.
I'll Always Be 04/03/11
Jason P <jas...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 9:12 pm, I'll Always Be 04/03/11 <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <9ae3b849-2274-47fc-8b64-6d74b9e43...@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, Jason
> > P <jasp...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Something the whining Jews and their supporting goyim seem to miss...
> >
> > > Every other society in history has put aside the hatred and the pain
> > > caused by other groups that have used genocide against them, EXCEPT the
> > > Jews.
> >
> > Apparently your education doesn't include Armenians, nor does it include
> > Muslims or even blacks. One only has to go as far as heinie to see that he
> > hasn't put aside his hatred of those that liberated the Netherlands but
> > rather worships those that enslaved them. And you are so painfully ignorant
> > of what xians think about what was done to their early progenitors. Why is
> > that?
> >
> > Obviously you are the poster child for what is wrong with public education.
>
> Jews have been vindicated over and over again. Armenians have not. Ditto that
> with many Moslems and with hordes of black - though not so much anymore.
And you have a point?
>
> The Jew's "anti-Semitic" paradigm is nothing less than whining with two
> loaves of bread under each arm. It's old, it's tired, and it holds no water.
> Apparently YOUR education doesn't reach past your myopic point of view on all
> things Judaic, Mr. BARRY the Sheenie.
And I notice that you are still too cowardly to take my challenge to prove that
I am he. You won't because you know it isn't true. Your sad educational
background just didn't properly prepare you for your inevitable life of failure
after failure.
>
> You're an idiot and you always have been one, since the day you emerged from
> the womb. You are the epitome of Usenet SPAM. And... you're a lying
> cock-sucker, BARRY.
If you want world class whining look no further than the xians who blame the
Jews for killing jesus. 2000 years whining with bread under one arm and wine
under the other.
Zacharias Mulletstein
"The Peeler" <slap...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote in message
news:4d70...@news.x-privat.org...
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:56:00 -0800 (PST), Slimy Jason Pee, certainly one of
> the dumbest trolls around, wrote:
>
> <snip most of the usual verbose inane blather>
>
>> Just about every group subjected to genocide has put aside the pain,
>> the hurt, the horror and moved on. Not so with the Jews.
>
> I told you already before that your claim is complete bullshit. The
> Armenians are still fighting to get their genocide recognized and they
> keep
> "whining" as you idiotically put it. Other ethnicites are doing the same.
You don't hear Ukranians whining about the Holomodor. And you rarely hear
Cambodians complain about the Khmer Rouge. The Jews complain more about the
Holocaust than other ethnic groups and they have a louder voice since they
control the media.
I can say this because I'm half Jewish (and half Native American!) I tell
my fellow part Jews to get over it and get on with their lives. Constant
Holocaust reminders help nobody.
--
I am a Fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal Warrior for the One lamb virgin,
Jesus Christ.
The Peeler
>>> Just about every group subjected to genocide has put aside the pain,
>>> the hurt, the horror and moved on. Not so with the Jews.
>>
>> I told you already before that your claim is complete bullshit. The
>> Armenians are still fighting to get their genocide recognized and they
>> keep
>> "whining" as you idiotically put it. Other ethnicites are doing the same.
>
> You don't hear Ukranians whining about the Holomodor. And you rarely hear
> Cambodians complain about the Khmer Rouge. The Jews complain more about the
> Holocaust than other ethnic groups and they have a louder voice since they
> control the media.
Those are somewhat different examples. They were killed by their own people
within their own countries and the intention of the murders was not so much
to annihilate an entire race but to kill those that were considered not to
be "collaborating". And to whom should the Cambodians complain? Their own
people? The Jews got sought out, hunted down and rounded up in a civilized
advanced country with the clear intent to eliminate an entire race.
> I can say this because I'm half Jewish (and half Native American!) I tell
> my fellow part Jews to get over it and get on with their lives. Constant
> Holocaust reminders help nobody.
Well, anyone can claim anything on Usenet. <G> I'd NEVER have the cheek to
tell ANYONE "to get over it" if they escaped rape, murder or genocide. Some
people keep whining about little mishaps and discomforts all their lives
long (like the miserable ever-whining Nazis in these groups), and your
advice might be applicable in those cases. But if something as traumatic as
murder, torture, rape, genocide is involved and the trauma has, tragically,
become part of their identity, I say that NOBODY has the right to tell
those people how to cope with it, and certainly not by telling them "to get
over with it".
Apart from that, what strikes is that it's rather the assembled Nazis here
that can't ever stop WHINING about "the Jews". It's just too funny that
every TYPICAL dumb Nazi ALWAYS is the very thing he sees in his object of
hatred. <G>
Zacharias Mulletstein
"The Peeler" <slap...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote in message
news:4d7178b1$1...@news.x-privat.org...
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:05:04 -0600, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
>
>>>> Just about every group subjected to genocide has put aside the pain,
>>>> the hurt, the horror and moved on. Not so with the Jews.
>>>
>>> I told you already before that your claim is complete bullshit. The
>>> Armenians are still fighting to get their genocide recognized and they
>>> keep
>>> "whining" as you idiotically put it. Other ethnicites are doing the
>>> same.
>>
>> You don't hear Ukranians whining about the Holomodor. And you rarely
>> hear
>> Cambodians complain about the Khmer Rouge. The Jews complain more about
>> the
>> Holocaust than other ethnic groups and they have a louder voice since
>> they
>> control the media.
>
> Those are somewhat different examples. They were killed by their own
> people
> within their own countries and the intention of the murders was not so
> much
> to annihilate an entire race but to kill those that were considered not to
> be "collaborating". And to whom should the Cambodians complain? Their own
> people? The Jews got sought out, hunted down and rounded up in a civilized
> advanced country with the clear intent to eliminate an entire race.
The Ukranians would argue that another nation (Soviet Russia) murdered them.
Remember, they were forcefully forced to join the Soviet Union at the point
of a gun.
>> I can say this because I'm half Jewish (and half Native American!) I
>> tell
>> my fellow part Jews to get over it and get on with their lives. Constant
>> Holocaust reminders help nobody.
>
> Well, anyone can claim anything on Usenet.
My birth name is Mulletstein. Are you saying that I'm not Jewish?