Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
Ed Kadach
Yiddisher groups announced they will use a conference on art and
property
"looted by Nazi Germany" to press for the auctioning of everything for
which a specific rich Jew does not demand "his own".
The four-day conference, sponsored by the State Department and the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum, brings together more than 40 countries and
more
than a dozen art, history, insurance and Jewish groups hoping to set
"informal" standards for the "return" of "stolen" assets.
"This chapter in history cannot become a mere fucking footnote in
history!'' Miles Lerman, chairman of the Holocaust Memorial Museum
Council,
said before opening the conference at the museum.
Elan Steinberg, executive director of the infamous organized crime
syndicate "World Jewish Congress", said it's not enough for governments,
museums and other institutions to acknowledge they have custody...There
must be real "restitution", whether to individuals or to Jewish groups"
(somebody, anybody Chewish!), he addled.
"We are going to ask that the last "prisoners of war" be released to the
rightful claimants or heirs" of dose claimants, which means any fucking
Jew
on the face of the Earth. Steinberg added that untraceable art and
property should be auctioned to "help survivors".
The Yids are demanding almost 2,000 artworks in French government
custody,
for example, "sold under duress" during the war. France has sucked shit
and listed them on the Internet and taken other steps to try and
identify
the "rightful owners".
Stuart Eizenstat, Jew U.S. Undersecretary of State and the conference's
organizer, cited the case of two paintings by pornographer and
child-molester Egon Schiele now deeply desired by the Jews as examples
of
the legal confusion caused by an artwork's disputed history. "Dead City
III'' and "Portrait of Wally'' were displayed at the Museum of Modern
Art
in New York, which borrowed them from an Austrian foundation. Earlier
this
year a Jew York Shitty court blocked the paintings from returning to
Austria as scheduled because kike families claimed the works were
"plundered" from their relatives' kiddie porn collections.
In one of the latest cases, a Monet water lily painting on exhibit at
the
Boston Museum of Fine Arts appears to have been "stolen" from Jew Paul
Rosenberg during the war, The Boston Globe reported.
Opening the conference, Eizenstat said, "Our efforts must be galvanized
by
an unrelenting aspiration to uncover the truth and seek justice and
remembrance for both the living and the dead". Vadda crock o' shit that
is!
The conference Chairman, Abie Mikva, declared the goal is to formally
confront some of "the greatest wrongs" of the 20th century and "leave
behind our own legacy of healing and restitution" (i.e., we want the
fucking money or we will destroy all of you Christian mother-fuckers!).
President Clinton on Monday named Edgar Bronfman (of the Bronfman intern
ational crime family) to head a Presidential Advisory Commission on
Holocaust Assets in the United States, which is to research and if
possible
seize such assets.
Bronfman is president of the World Jewish Congress and the racketeering
World Jewish Restitution Organization.
The kikes claim that Nazis "looted" an estimated $9 billion to $14
billion
in art and other assets, "now worth" $90 to $140 billion! And they are
demanding their blood money!
I say we should give Jews everywhere a whole helluva lot of that good
ol'
blood...money.
Richard Phillips
PHILNANCY wrote:
> This post has nothing to do with the Holocaust, and therefore is off the topic
> of this NG. On the other hand, it serves as useful evidence of the underlying
> anti-semitism of many of the Holocaust Deniers. So much for the honest pursuit
> of revisionist truth .
>
> Philip Mathews
> "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing
> knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant
> than would take even a little trouble to acquire it." Samuel Johnson
=================================================
Phillips
Hmmm, well, let's see. True, I was born in 1927 and, true, I never owned a piece
of art in my life and, true, I was never outside the country before 1970 but
goddamit, there's GOTTA be some way I can get in on this. Simple justice admits of
nothing less.
===============================================================
Richard Phillips
John Morris wrote:
> In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
>
> So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
===================================
PHillips
Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
==============================================
>
>
> --
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <36696E6D...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Hmmm, well, let's see. True, I was born in 1927 and, true, I never owned
> a piece
> >of art in my life and, true, I was never outside the country before 1970 but
> >goddamit, there's GOTTA be some way I can get in on this.
>
> Sure there is, Philllips. Just lie -- that is what you do best, after all...
==========================================================Phillips
Any man can fling insults around. but how many can do it with wit, style,
originality, and panache the way Phillips does? Think about it. In the course of
my never-ending insults to Jeffrey, I have managed to make all manner of snide
allusions to his single-digit IQ, and what do I get in return: nothing except the
same inevitablre quadrisyllabic utterance: "Liar Phillips." Is that the best he
can do? Am I not deserving of a worthier opponent?
But perhaps there is still hope. Perhaps some day Jeffrey will draw inspiration
from the fathomless depths of his being and come up with something really
original, something like ... well... "Liar Phillips" (haw haw).
================================================
>
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
PHILNANCY
>
>Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
>
DeppityBob
=================================================
Phillips
Hmmm, well, let's see. True, I was born in 1927 and, true, I never owned a
piece
of art in my life and, true, I was never outside the country before 1970 but
goddamit, there's GOTTA be some way I can get in on this. Simple justice admits
of
nothing less.<<
Well, dangit, Phillips, you shoulda stuck with being a Jew just like your
babushkas. Now here you come whining and wanting a piece of the Global Zionist
Media and Banking Empire (and Kosher Food Processing Industry). Uh-uh, you
didn't suck up, so you're out. Don't you remember the lessons learned by
Loosey-Goosey and Turkey-Lurkey?!?!
(For any revisionist busy hitting ctrl-C on their keybords: chill out man. It's
hyperbole.
Dep
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
--David Mamet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffrey G. Brown
>Hmmm, well, let's see. True, I was born in 1927 and, true, I never owned
a piece
>of art in my life and, true, I was never outside the country before 1970 but
>goddamit, there's GOTTA be some way I can get in on this.
Sure there is, Philllips. Just lie -- that is what you do best, after all...
JGB
John Morris
>Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
--
Yale F. Edeiken
> John Morris wrote:
> > In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> > Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
> > >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
>
> Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
Let's just say that it is odd that yopu are unaware of the efforts to reclaim
stolen property that has gone on for decades/
> Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
Now Phillips is openly stating that when the rightful owners attempt to
recover property that is rightfully theirs, it is "extortion."
Can yopu show a single court who agrees with you?
I thought not.
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
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Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Any man can fling insults around. but how many can do it with wit, style,
>originality, and panache the way Phillips does?
Unfortunately, your self-proclaimed "wit, style, originality, and panache"
don't change the one central fact about your existence: you're a liar.
>Think about it. In the course of
>my never-ending insults to Jeffrey, I have managed to make all manner of snide
>allusions to his single-digit IQ, and what do I get in return: nothing
except the
>same inevitablre quadrisyllabic utterance: "Liar Phillips."
What you have _not_ managed to do is find a way to make people forget the
most important thing about you: you're a liar.
>Is that the best he can do? Am I not deserving of a worthier opponent?
I'm not here to entertain you, old man. I'm here to make sure that neither
you nor anyone else forgets just how devoid of honesty, integrity, and
simple human decency you are.
You're a liar. You'll just have to live with that unpleasant but
undeniable fact -- and with me reminding you of it as often as possible.
ORAC
>Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
>
>Yiddisher groups announced they will use a conference on art and
>property
>"looted by Nazi Germany" to press for the auctioning of everything for
>which a specific rich Jew does not demand "his own".
[snip]
>The kikes claim that Nazis "looted" an estimated $9 billion to $14
>billion
>in art and other assets, "now worth" $90 to $140 billion! And they are
>demanding their blood money!
>
>I say we should give Jews everywhere a whole helluva lot of that good
>ol'
>blood...money.
So you're saying that people whose property was stolen by a regime that
tried to exterminate them should not be entitled to have their property
returned when that regime is defeated? Is that what I hear you saying?
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ORAC
>Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
>realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
>Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
>successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
>suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
descendents have a right to have their property returned.
The delay in this restitution is far more shameful than any greed or
opportunism demonstrated by a small percentage of the Jews asking for
restitution.
ORAC
(PHILNANCY) wrote:
>In >Message-id: <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>Kadach wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
[Snip]
>>
>>The kikes claim that Nazis "looted" an estimated $9 billion to $14
>>billion
>>in art and other assets, "now worth" $90 to $140 billion! And they are
>>demanding their blood money!
>>
>>I say we should give Jews everywhere a whole helluva lot of that good
>>ol'
>>blood...money.
>
>This post has nothing to do with the Holocaust, and therefore is off the topic
>of this NG. On the other hand, it serves as useful evidence of the underlying
>anti-semitism of many of the Holocaust Deniers. So much for the honest pursuit
>of revisionist truth .
Actually, although I agree that this post is indeed useful evidence of the
underlying anti-Semitism of many Holocaust deniers, the post IS about the
Holocaust and its aftermath and therefore is on-topic for alt.revisionism.
Mark Van Alstine
> John Morris wrote:
>
> > In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> > Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> >
> > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
>
> ===================================
>
> PHillips
>
> Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
> Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> suspicions.
Exortion? Is it extortion to ask what what stolen from you to be given
back? Or does Dickie da Liar think the Nazi plundering of European Jewry
was cricket?
> successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
And anti-Semitic lies beget anti-Semitic lies. Small wonder why Dickie da
Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
Mark
--
"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line seperating good and
evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between
political parties--but right through every human heart--and all
human hearts." -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"
Richard Phillips
ORAC wrote:
> In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> >realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> >Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> >successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> >suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
>
> It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
> property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
> of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
> maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
> descendents have a right to have their property returned.
============================================
PHillips
Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts to
reclaim art they say belonged to them.
==================================================
>
>
> The delay in this restitution is far more shameful than any greed or
> opportunism demonstrated by a small percentage of the Jews asking for
> restitution.
>
Joel Rosenberg
Richard Philllllllllips or Floops or whatever wrote in message
<366A5D3D...@earthlink.net>...
>PHillips
>
>Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts
to
>reclaim art they say belonged to them.
>
Attempts -- failures -- of the families to use various legal systems to have
property (including art, real estate, and money) returned/compensated for
have been reported for at least twenty years that I've been aware of,
although I'm sure it's been going on longer.
But "produce ... records" at the demand of Floops? It is to laugh.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>ORAC wrote:
>
>> In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> >Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
>> >realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
>> >Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
>> >successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
>> >suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
>>
>> It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
>> property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
>> of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
>> maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
>> descendents have a right to have their property returned.
>
>============================================
>
>PHillips
>
>Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts to
>reclaim art they say belonged to them.
Your claim, Liar, was that "it has taken [the Jews] 55 years to realize
that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them". Since many of the
Jewish families involved have been making attempts since the end of WWII
to reclaim their stolen property, obviously the realization that a "gross
injustice WAS perpetrated against them" is not a recent one.
Once again, therefore, your understanding of reality is shown to be, at
the very least, woefully deficient.
Yale F. Edeiken
> ORAC wrote:
> > It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
> > property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
> > of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
> > maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
> > descendents have a right to have their property returned.
> Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts to
> reclaim art they say belonged to them.
Yes.
Richard Phillips
Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> Richard Philllllllllips or Floops or whatever wrote in message
> <366A5D3D...@earthlink.net>...
>
> >PHillips
> >
> >Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts
> to
> >reclaim art they say belonged to them.
> >
>
> Attempts -- failures -- of the families to use various legal systems to have
> property (including art, real estate, and money) returned/compensated for
> have been reported for at least twenty years that I've been aware of,
> although I'm sure it's been going on longer.
========================================
Phillips
It apears then, that they came to nothing. MIght this be becasue they never had
any substance to begin with.
=========================================================
>
>
> But "produce ... records" at the demand of Floops? It is to laugh.
===========================================
Floops
Thank you for reminding me that over a yearago I demanded physical proofs of the
existnece and operation of an execution gas chamber. As of the present date,
I'm still waiting.
==============================================
Richard Phillips
Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > John Morris wrote:
> >
> > > In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> > > Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> > >
> > > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
> >
> > ===================================
> >
> > PHillips
> >
> > Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
>
> Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
> geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
==============================================
Phillips
I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it). I said I find it strange that the
Jews needed five decades to realize that they had been wrongly stripped of art
treasures they had formerly possessed. Indeed, if this were a genuine case at
law, would there not be a statute of limitations.
==========================================================
>
>
> > Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> > successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> > suspicions.
>
> Exortion? Is it extortion to ask what what stolen from you to be given
> back?
==============================================
Phillips
The thefts are not yet a proven fact; they are an accusation.
====================================
> Or does Dickie da Liar think the Nazi plundering of European Jewry
> was cricket?
>
> > successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
>
> And anti-Semitic lies beget anti-Semitic lies.
=======================================
Phillips
Am I to take it that any questioning of a Jew claim is, by definition, a "lie?"
===========================================
> Small wonder why Dickie da
> Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
====================================
Phillips
Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
============================
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366A5D3D...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >ORAC wrote:
> >
> >> In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >>
> >> >Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> >> >realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> >> >Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> >> >successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> >> >suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
> >>
> >> It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
> >> property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
> >> of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
> >> maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
> >> descendents have a right to have their property returned.
> >
> >============================================
> >
> >PHillips
> >
> >Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts to
> >reclaim art they say belonged to them.
>
> Your claim, Liar, was that "it has taken [the Jews] 55 years to realize
> that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them". Since many of the
> Jewish families involved have been making attempts since the end of WWII
> to reclaim their stolen property, obviously the realization that a "gross
> injustice WAS perpetrated against them" is not a recent one.
===============================================
Phillips
Let me make clear at the outset, closet Jewboy and probable cocksucker, that I do
not really give a damn what was done to a people who poison every country that
permits their presence and whose methods of debate on this NG can only be
described as plain slimy.
Since 1945 the Jews have been playing the "Oh, how we suffered" game to the tune
of billions of reparations money from Germany, both in the form of payments to
individuals and also in the form of industrial investments in Israel. I lived in
that country for five years and can tell you that the whole infrastructure was
built very largely with German capital. The total of these payments by now is,
by any rational calculation, light-years beyond being commensurate with any
hardships that may have been inflicted on them.
So tel me: why is it that, more than 50 years since the close of the war, all of
a sudden we get, in close succession to each other:
-Demands for alleged accounts in Swiss banks
-Demands for "compensation" for unpaid labour
-Demands for return of stolen art treasures.
Why, all of a sudden, are all these things coming together. Well, I'll tell you:
it's all about POWER and it's all bout MONEY. Because now, for the first time,
the Jews have the whole United States government in their pocket ready to back up
whatever demands they make, no matter how preposterous. And do you know why this
is: because Jews make 50% of the contributions to the Democratic Party, that's
why.
======================================================
Yale F. Edeiken
> Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> > > > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > > > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > > > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
> > > Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > > realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> > Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
> > geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
> I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
> genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it). I said I find it strange that the
> Jews needed five decades to realize that they had been wrongly stripped of art
> treasures they had formerly possessed. Indeed, if this were a genuine case at
> law, would there not be a statute of limitations.
Except that they did not wait all that time.
> > > Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> > > successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> > > suspicions.
> > Exortion? Is it extortion to ask what what stolen from you to be given
> > back?
> The thefts are not yet a proven fact; they are an accusation.
Wrong again.
> > Or does Dickie da Liar think the Nazi plundering of European Jewry
> > was cricket?
> > > successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
> > And anti-Semitic lies beget anti-Semitic lies.
> Am I to take it that any questioning of a Jew claim is, by definition, a "lie?"
No. just open misrepresentations such as yours.
> > Small wonder why Dickie da
> > Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
> Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
And when referring to the "revisionists" fairly accurate.
Dan Parker
prior to WWII. They owned the entire physical world and all its wealth. I
apologize, Jews. I honestly never knew that you owned everything in the
world as the world came together in a mighty clash just over 50 years ago.
Dan Parker
Ed Kadach wrote in message <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>...
>Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
>
>Yiddisher groups announced they will use a conference on art and
>property
>"looted by Nazi Germany" to press for the auctioning of everything for
>which a specific rich Jew does not demand "his own".
>
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Thank you for reminding me that over a yearago I demanded physical proofs
of the
>existnece and operation of an execution gas chamber. As of the present date,
>I'm still waiting.
That's because it is well known that as soon as anyone makes any effort to
provide you with the proofs you demand, you change said demands -- and
then lie about having done so.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
>> geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
>
>==============================================
>
>Phillips
>
>I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
>genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it). I said I find it strange that the
>Jews needed five decades to realize that they had been wrongly stripped of art
>treasures they had formerly possessed.
And, as already pointed out, you were speaking from ignorance. This, of
course, surprises no one...
> [...deletia...]
>> Small wonder why Dickie da
>> Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
>
>====================================
>
>Phillips
>
>Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
Of course, in your case, Liar, that sort of accusation is a simple
statement of fact.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Your claim, Liar, was that "it has taken [the Jews] 55 years to realize
>> that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them". Since many of the
>> Jewish families involved have been making attempts since the end of WWII
>> to reclaim their stolen property, obviously the realization that a "gross
>> injustice WAS perpetrated against them" is not a recent one.
>
>===============================================
>
>Phillips
>
>Let me make clear at the outset, closet Jewboy...
Cite your evidence that I am a Jew, Philllips. The unfounded assertions of
a known and documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> [...deletia: the irrelevant rantings of a known liar...]
>So tel me: why is it that, more than 50 years since the close of the war,
all of
>a sudden we get, in close succession to each other:
>
>-Demands for alleged accounts in Swiss banks
>-Demands for "compensation" for unpaid labour
>-Demands for return of stolen art treasures.
I'm not even going to bother answering that, Liar, since I know that as
soon as I do, you'll change the question and lie about doing so.
I _will_, however, point out that you seem to be trying very hard to gloss
over the simple fact that your initial claim -- "it has taken [the Jews]
55 years to realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against
them" -- has been shown to be founded on ignorance of the most abject
variety.
> [...deletia...]
>Because now, for the first time,
>the Jews have the whole United States government in their pocket ready to
back up
>whatever demands they make, no matter how preposterous. And do you know
why this
>is: because Jews make 50% of the contributions to the Democratic Party, that's
>why.
Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
documented liar are, of course, worthless.
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366A7CE2...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Thank you for reminding me that over a yearago I demanded physical proofs
> of the
> >existnece and operation of an execution gas chamber. As of the present date,
> >I'm still waiting.
>
> That's because it is well known that as soon as anyone makes any effort to
> provide you with the proofs you demand, you change said demands -- and
> then lie about having done so.
==========================================
Phillips
Dear Single-digit IQ Jeffrey:
The above statement, like just about all statements you have ever made, is without
basis for the good and sufficient reason that no one --repeat: NO ONE-- has ever
provided me with one solitary goddam thing that could possibly pass muster as
sollid evidence of the type I was seeking.
=====================================
Richard Phillips
ORAC wrote:
> In article <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, edd...@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>
> >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> >
> >Yiddisher groups announced they will use a conference on art and
> >property
> >"looted by Nazi Germany" to press for the auctioning of everything for
> >which a specific rich Jew does not demand "his own".
>
> [snip]
>
> >The kikes claim that Nazis "looted" an estimated $9 billion to $14
> >billion
> >in art and other assets, "now worth" $90 to $140 billion! And they are
> >demanding their blood money!
> >
> >I say we should give Jews everywhere a whole helluva lot of that good
> >ol'
> >blood...money.
>
> So you're saying that people whose property was stolen by a regime that
> tried to exterminate them should not be entitled to have their property
> returned when that regime is defeated? Is that what I hear you saying?
==========================================
Philllips
I dont know to whom your question is addressed but I'll tell you what I'm
saying: I'm saying is that I've been hearing their goddam moans and wails
for 55 years and I'm plain sick of it.
======================================
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366A7BBE...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Mark Van Alstine wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
> >> geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
> >
> >==============================================
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
> >genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it). I said I find it strange that the
> >Jews needed five decades to realize that they had been wrongly stripped of art
> >treasures they had formerly possessed.
>
> And, as already pointed out, you were speaking from ignorance. This, of
> course, surprises no one...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Small wonder why Dickie da
> >> Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
> >
> >====================================
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
>
> Of course, in your case, Liar, that sort of accusation is a simple
> statement of fact.
>
> JGB
=====================================
Phillips
I recall that sometime in the 1960s the Red Chinese government launched a nationwide
campaign to totally rid the country of the common housefly and that the campaign
achieved a considerable measure of success. Naturally one wonders whether the
methods used have a more --shall we say-- general applicability.
===============================================================
ORAC
>ORAC wrote:
>
>> In article <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, edd...@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>> >I say we should give Jews everywhere a whole helluva lot of that good
>> >ol'
>> >blood...money.
>>
>> So you're saying that people whose property was stolen by a regime that
>> tried to exterminate them should not be entitled to have their property
>> returned when that regime is defeated? Is that what I hear you saying?
>
>==========================================
>
>Philllips
>
>I dont know to whom your question is addressed but I'll tell you what I'm
>saying: I'm saying is that I've been hearing their goddam moans and wails
>for 55 years and I'm plain sick of it.
How do you reconcile this tirade with your previous post:
"Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts
to reclaim art they say belonged to them."
Richard Phillips
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:32:29 -0500
Message-ID: <366A5D3D...@earthlink.net>
First you demand proof that the Jews have been trying to get their art
back for over fifty years and then you complain that you've been "earing
their goddam moans and wails for 55 years and I'm plain sick of it."
Something doesn't jibe here.
From this discrepancy I am tempted to conclude that you knew all along
that the many Jews have indeed been trying to get their property back
since the end of WWII and therefore have to wonder whether your previous
demand was made in--shall we say?--less than good faith.
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366A8262...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Your claim, Liar, was that "it has taken [the Jews] 55 years to realize
> >> that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them". Since many of the
> >> Jewish families involved have been making attempts since the end of WWII
> >> to reclaim their stolen property, obviously the realization that a "gross
> >> injustice WAS perpetrated against them" is not a recent one.
> >
> >===============================================
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >Let me make clear at the outset, closet Jewboy...
>
> Cite your evidence that I am a Jew, Philllips. The unfounded assertions of
> a known and documented liar are, of course, worthless.
====================================================
Philllips
It takes one to know one. In your case, I don't even need to make skull
measurements.
===============================
>
>
> > [...deletia: the irrelevant rantings of a known liar...]
>
> >So tel me: why is it that, more than 50 years since the close of the war,
> all of
> >a sudden we get, in close succession to each other:
> >
> >-Demands for alleged accounts in Swiss banks
> >-Demands for "compensation" for unpaid labour
> >-Demands for return of stolen art treasures.
>
> I'm not even going to bother answering that, Liar, since I know that as
> soon as I do, you'll change the question and lie about doing so.
=============================================
Phillips
You are not going to bother answering that because you know perfectly well that you
can't.
==============================================
>
>
> I _will_, however, point out that you seem to be trying very hard to gloss
> over the simple fact that your initial claim -- "it has taken [the Jews]
> 55 years to realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against
> them" -- has been shown to be founded on ignorance of the most abject
> variety.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >Because now, for the first time,
> >the Jews have the whole United States government in their pocket ready to
> back up
> >whatever demands they make, no matter how preposterous. And do you know
> why this
> >is: because Jews make 50% of the contributions to the Democratic Party, that's
> >why.
>
> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
=============================================
Phillips
It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT. Give me your address and I'll buy
you a year's subscription. Think of all the 'cultural enrichment' that will result.
========================================
>
>
> JGB
Richard Phillips
Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> In article <366A7BBE...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Morris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> > > > > Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> > > > >
> > > > > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > > > > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > > > > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
> > > >
> > > > ===================================
> > > >
> > > > PHillips
> > > >
> > > > Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > > > realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> > >
> > > Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
> > > geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
> >
> > ==============================================
> >
> > Phillips
> >
> > I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
> > genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it).
>
> Don't you consider the genocide of European Jews to be a gross injustice,
> Dickie da Liar?
=======================================
Phillips
I consider it to be wishful thinking.
=====================================
>
>
> > I said I find it strange that the Jews needed five decades to realize that
> > they had been wrongly stripped of art treasures they had formerly possessed.
>
> No, Dickie da Liar, you said: "we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them."
>
> There is no question that genocide was perpetrated again st European
> Jewry. Likewise, there is also no question that the personal possessions
> and propery of European Jews was stolen from them by the Nazis and
> others.
>
> BTW, Dickie da Liar, whose this "we"?
>
> > Indeed, if this were a genuine case at
> > law, would there not be a statute of limitations.
>
> Who said there is? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
>
> > ==========================================================
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> > > > successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> > > > suspicions.
> > >
> > > Exortion? Is it extortion to ask what what stolen from you to be given
> > > back?
> >
> > ==============================================
> >
> > Phillips
> >
> > The thefts are not yet a proven fact; they are an accusation.
>
> The thefts are indeed proven fact, Dickie da Liar.
>
> > ====================================
> >
> > > Or does Dickie da Liar think the Nazi plundering of European Jewry
> > > was cricket?
>
> Well, Dickie da Liar, do you think the Nazi plundering of European Jewry
> was cricket?
>
> > > > successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
> > >
> > > And anti-Semitic lies beget anti-Semitic lies.
> >
> > =======================================
> >
> > Phillips
> >
> > Am I to take it that any questioning of a Jew claim is, by definition, a
> "lie?"
>
> Nope. You may take it, Dickie de Lair, as meaning that your anti-Semitic
> lies are, by definition, anti-Semitic lies.
>
> > ===========================================
> >
> >
> > > Small wonder why Dickie da
> > > Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
> >
> > ====================================
> >
> > Phillips
> >
> > Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
>
> And your case, Dickie da Lair, so true.
Mark Van Alstine
> Mark Van Alstine wrote:
>
> > In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > John Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > > In <3669F3...@connect.ab.ca>, on Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:01:47 -0700,
> > > > Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
> > > >
> > > > So is the issue for you that property seized during war time should
> > > > not be returned to its rightful owners? Or is it that property should
> > > > not be returned if its owners are Jewish?
> > >
> > > ===================================
> > >
> > > PHillips
> > >
> > > Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > > realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> >
> > Who says it has taken five decades to realize that the Nazis committed
> > geniocide against Jews? Dickie da Liar? Pfui.
>
> ==============================================
>
> Phillips
>
> I did not say it has taken five decades to "realize the Nazis had committed
> genocide" (or at least to accuse them of it).
Don't you consider the genocide of European Jews to be a gross injustice,
Dickie da Liar?
> I said I find it strange that the Jews needed five decades to realize that
Mark Van Alstine
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
[snip]
> > Your claim, Liar, was that "it has taken [the Jews] 55 years to realize
> > that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them". Since many of the
> > Jewish families involved have been making attempts since the end of WWII
> > to reclaim their stolen property, obviously the realization that a "gross
> > injustice WAS perpetrated against them" is not a recent one.
>
> ===============================================
>
> Phillips
>
> Let me make clear at the outset, closet Jewboy and probable cocksucker...
Go lick Boger's foreskin, Dicke da Liar. You are anti-Semites of a feather.
[snip]
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
>> In article <366A7CE2...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
>> Philllips") wrote:
>>
>> >Thank you for reminding me that over a yearago I demanded physical proofs
>> of the
>> >existnece and operation of an execution gas chamber. As of the
present date,
>> >I'm still waiting.
>>
>> That's because it is well known that as soon as anyone makes any effort to
>> provide you with the proofs you demand, you change said demands -- and
>> then lie about having done so.
>
>==========================================
>
>Phillips
>
>Dear Single-digit IQ Jeffrey:
>
>The above statement, like just about all statements you have ever made, is
>without basis for the good and sufficient reason that no one --repeat: NO
>ONE-- has ever provided me with one solitary goddam thing that
>could possibly pass muster as sollid evidence of the type I was seeking.
Whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips with evidence is
irrelevant. There is documentary proof that Liar changes his demands and
then lies about having done so:
In an article <http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=317091642> posted on 18
Jan 1998, Richard Phillips <rgp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I hereby make to Ms Laura Finsten the following offer:
Agree to snail-mail me one (just ONE) facsimile of a gas
chamber drawing produced by a Hitler-era German construction
company and I will pay you, in advance, $100.
About a month later, on 23 Feb 1998, Richard Phillips
<rgp...@earthlink.net> responded to an inquiry from Steve Mock
<sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> thusly
<http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=328061340>:
sm...@veritas.nizkor.org wrote:
> [...deletia...]
> Tell me, Phillips, is the offer still good?
> I happen to have a copy of Pressac on loan for the next little while, and
> don't have a whole lot of pressing business at work tomorrow. So, what the
> hell?
>
> Steve Mock
>
> -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
============================================================
Phillips
Is the offer still open? Yes it is, but the requirements are strict.
(1) The drawings are to be snail-mailed to me at
Richard Phillips
55 Crystal Ave, #311
Derry, NH 03038
(2) The drawings are to be full-sized because a reduced-size
drawing would make it impossible to make out the logo of the
designing company.
(3) The drawings (in addition to being full-sized) must be
sufficiently clear so that I can make out the logo of the company
that built them and the signature of the approving engineer.
(4) The drawings must show me exactly how the structure was put
together. what sort of structural members were used? I-beams,
angle irons. Were they assembled by welding or riveting.
(5) I will need details of the gas-tight door. Was it built by
that company or was it a purchased part. What sort of sealing
gasket was used.
(6) I will need to know the specification and placement of all
motors, vans, ventilators, etc.
(7) I will need full electrical wiring diagrams including switch
boxes, fuses, circuit-breakers, emergency cutouts, etc. Did the
facility use electrical power already at the camp or did it
generate its own.
(8) I will need drawings showing exactly how the lethal agent was
introduced into the chamber.
(9) I will need to know whether assembly took place at the
company's or whether the facility ewas shipped in kit form and
assembled at the camp.
(10) I will also need to see a manual giving the following:
(a) Instructions for use. (This would include considerable
material on what we today would call 'crowd control.' After all,
people who know they are for the chop can get unpredictable.)
These instructions will also explain how to introduce the lethal
agent, the time needed for execution, time and procedure needed
for defuming.
(b) Procedures for maintenance and troulbeshooting. This would
have to include a list of replacement parts.
If you have all of that, we can talk about it. Be assured that
your labour will be liberally reimbursed.
Two months later, on 29 Apr 1998, Philllips posted his now-famous lie
<http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=348715783>:
steve mock wrote:
> [...deletia...]
> Well, for crying out loud, Phillips - that was only because you kept
> changing your criterea every time I met them.
=====================================
Phillips
My demands now are exactly what they were at the beginning.
Simple comparison of the first two posts clearly shows that Philllips'
demands were anything but "what they were at the beginning". He has, of
course, gone on to post many more lies -- but this is the one that earned
him his nickname.
Liar Philllips is also lying when he claims that he "originally posed a
fairly formidable list of requirements" and later "backed off a bit". The
facts show that he did the exact opposite -- and then lied about making
any change at all.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
>> In article <366A7BBE...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
>> Philllips") wrote:
>>
>> >Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> >> Small wonder why Dickie da
>> >> Liar is so fond of them: He's a fucking liar.
>> >
>> >====================================
>> >
>> >Phillips
>> >
>> >Accussations of that sort are very common on this NG.
>>
>> Of course, in your case, Liar, that sort of accusation is a simple
>> statement of fact.
>>
>> JGB
>
>=====================================
>
>Phillips
>
>I recall that sometime in the 1960s the Red Chinese government launched a
>nationwide campaign to totally rid the country of the common housefly and
>that the campaign achieved a considerable measure of success. Naturally one
>wonders whether the methods used have a more --shall we say-- general
>applicability.
And this alters your status as a known and proven liar _how_, exactly?
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Cite your evidence that I am a Jew, Philllips. The unfounded assertions of
>> a known and documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>
>====================================================
>
>Philllips
>
>It takes one to know one.
Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
perceivable evidence for corroboration.
> [...deletia...]
>> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
>> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
>> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>
>=============================================
>
>Phillips
>
>It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
perceivable evidence for corroboration.
DeppityBob
looney thusly:
>>Subject: Re: Kikes Demand Straight Cash Blackmail Payoff - "or else"
From: "Dan Parker" <dpa...@intrstar.net>
Date: Mon, Dec 7, 1998 3:01 AM
Message-id: <4GHa2.2312$f91....@news14.ispnews.com>
I don't believe anyone ever had any idea just how wealthy the Jews were
prior to WWII. They owned the entire physical world and all its wealth. I
apologize, Jews. I honestly never knew that you owned everything in the
world as the world came together in a mighty clash just over 50 years ago.
Dan Parker<<
The entire physical world and all its wealth. Wow. So would that include Getty
Oil, the Ford Motor Corporation, Borden Dairy, Hughes Corporation, and my
grandpa's 1/2 acre-and-a-house?
Dan, you are the bitterest loop in the box of Froot Loops.
Dep
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
--David Mamet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chuck Ferree
Richard Phillips wrote:
> ORAC wrote:
>
> > In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > >Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > >realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> > >Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> > >successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> > >suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
CF:>>>>>Phillips, how can you declare such nonsense? It's common knowledge that
the Nazis looted every country which they occupied in Europe. It's also common
knowledge that the Nazis, as a matter of government policy, rounded up every
person of the Jewish Faith they could lay their hands on, confiscated their:
1-Real Estate
2-Jewels and other personal valuables
3- Homes and furniture
4- Businesses and professions
5- Everything owned, by Jews except 20-30 pounds of whatever they could carry
6-shipped them all over Europe to Nazi concentration camps....jammed into cattle
cars, with no food, water or provisions for sanitary needs, and proceeded to
murder them one way or another.
Some perceptive Jews had the forethought to place cash and other valuables in
Swiss banks, assuming their belongings would be safe. Not so, since the Swiss
were in bed with the Nazis.
The surviving Jews, and others made prisoners by the Nazis were liberated, but
had no possessions whatever. Just sorting the millions of displaced persons out
and trying to get them back to their homes took almost ten years.
>
> >
> > It has not taken 53 years for Jews to begin trying to reclaim their
> > property seized by the Nazis. They've been trying to do that since the end
> > of WWII. It's taken 53 years for the rest of the world to admit that
> > maybe--just maybe--the Jews who survived the Holocaust and their
> > descendents have a right to have their property returned.
>
> ============================================
>
> PHillips
>
> Can you produce any records of previous widespread and organized attempts to
> reclaim art they say belonged to them.
CF:>>>>>>Phillips, does it really matter? We all know the Jewish people were
stripped of everything, incarcerated until liberated or killed. They entered the
Nazi camps with nothing, and left with nothing. The war ended May 8th, 1945, as
of this date December 7th. 1998 (another very important day in American and
world history) Jewish survivors of the Nazi perpetrated Holocaust are continuing
their rightful claims for their money, and other losses stolen from them by Nazi
Germany, along with other countries in cahoots with the Nazi bastards. These
items do not belong to Germany, Switzerland or any other country or government.
It all belongs to the people who lost everything to the Nazis.
What's fair is fair.
Chuck Ferree
>
>
> ==================================================
>
> >
> >
> > The delay in this restitution is far more shameful than any greed or
> > opportunism demonstrated by a small percentage of the Jews asking for
> > restitution.
> >
Richard Phillips
Chuck Ferree wrote:
> Richard Phillips wrote:
>
> > ORAC wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3669D05A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >Let's just say that we find it odd that it has taken them 55 years to
> > > >realize that this gross injustice WAS perpetrated against them.
> > > >Moreover, that the claim is made in the context of the recent (and highly
> > > >successful) extortion from the Swiss banks helps to fuel our
> > > >suspicions. successful extortion naturally leads to more extortion.
>
> CF:>>>>>Phillips, how can you declare such nonsense? It's common knowledge that
> the Nazis looted every country which they occupied in Europe. It's also common
> knowledge that the Nazis, as a matter of government policy, rounded up every
> person of the Jewish Faith they could lay their hands on, confiscated their:
> 1-Real Estate
> 2-Jewels and other personal valuables
> 3- Homes and furniture
> 4- Businesses and professions
> 5- Everything owned, by Jews except 20-30 pounds of whatever they could carry
> 6-shipped them all over Europe to Nazi concentration camps....jammed into cattle
> cars, with no food, water or provisions for sanitary needs, and proceeded to
> murder them one way or another.
=======================================
Phillips
I admit to imprecise phrasing. NO, I suppose this is hardly the first time that the
Jews have said: "Oh, how we have suffered. We were stripped of this and stripped of
that." What I WAS remarking on was that suddenly, after 55 years, there is a
CONCERTED public campaign. Now I find it very significant that -after 55 years and
following closely one after the other- we hear:
-A concerted bad-mouthing campaign against the Swiss banks because they continued
doing business with Germany (and why should they NOT have)
-Sudden public and concerted demands for compensation for their having been "slave
labourers"
-Sudden public and concerted demands for the return of "stolen" art treasures.
Now, I ask myself: why is it that only do we hear these very loud and very public
demands for SPECIFIC KINDS OF RESTITUTION FOR SPECIFIC CAUSES. Could it because
now, for the first time, they have the Unitred States government in their pocket and
so can put some real muscle behind their demands. For myself I can see no reason for
the United States government to involve itself in matters of this sort, but involve
itself it most certainly has.
In any event, the sum total of restitutions (both to individuals and to the Israeli
government) by now must exceed many times any possible measure of wrongs done
INCLUDING witheld bank accounts AND slave labour AND confiscated works of art.
I say this to the jews: like it or don't like it but the world is getting hearily
sick of you and has come to regard you as a people utterly lacking in both dignity
and pride.
==========================================
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366ABA0F...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Cite your evidence that I am a Jew, Philllips. The unfounded assertions of
> >> a known and documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> >
> >====================================================
> >
> >Philllips
> >
> >It takes one to know one.
>
> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> >> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> >> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> >
> >=============================================
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
>
> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
========================================
Philllips
For the edification of the lexically-challenged, I will again point out that it
has been mentioned several times in SPOTLIGHT. The preceeding is a
straightforward English-language statement-of-fact; nothing more; nothing less.
It requires no "translation," either by those competent to do such things or by
those not competent.
======================================================================
ORAC
>I say this to the jews: like it or don't like it but the world is getting
hearily
>sick of you and has come to regard you as a people utterly lacking in
both dignity
>and pride.
TRANSLATION: Phillips and a few malcontent white people who dream of some
fantastical Aryan nation just can't stand it that Jews might dare to
demand restitution for their lives and property, because they hate Jews
and admire the nation that made such restitution necessary through its
genocidal policies (Nazi Germany) and its leader (Adolf Hitler).
--
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AND FRIENDS. TO E-MAIL ME, USE: dgorski[at]xsite[dot]net!
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
>> In article <366ABA0F...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
>> Philllips") wrote:
>>
>> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> >> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
>> >> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
>> >> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>> >
>> >=============================================
>> >
>> >Phillips
>> >
>> >It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
>>
>> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
>> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
>
>========================================
>
>Philllips
>
>For the edification of the lexically-challenged, I will again point out that it
>has been mentioned several times in SPOTLIGHT.
That's nice... but it's not evidence of your claim, Liar. For all we know,
SPOTLIGHT merely made the same claim, sans factual support.
Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
documented liar are, of course, worthless.
JGB
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366AB78A...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> >> In article <366A7CE2...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> >> Philllips") wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thank you for reminding me that over a yearago I demanded physical proofs
> >> of the
> >> >existnece and operation of an execution gas chamber. As of the
> present date,
> >> >I'm still waiting.
> >>
> >> That's because it is well known that as soon as anyone makes any effort to
> >> provide you with the proofs you demand, you change said demands -- and
> >> then lie about having done so.
> >
> >==========================================
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >Dear Single-digit IQ Jeffrey:
> >
> >The above statement, like just about all statements you have ever made, is
> >without basis for the good and sufficient reason that no one --repeat: NO
> >ONE-- has ever provided me with one solitary goddam thing that
> >could possibly pass muster as sollid evidence of the type I was seeking.
>
> Whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips with evidence is
> irrelevant.
============================================
PHillips
Irrelevant, indeed. How very interesting. For months and months and months the
Holocaust tribe has been insisting that, yes, they HAVE provided me with the
evidence. NOw, one of their more vocal hangers-on (if not of the more intelligent
ones) now says, and I quote:
"Whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips with evidence is
irrelevant. "
Most interesting; most interesting, indeed.
===================================================================
>
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <366B8980...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> Philllips") wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> >> In article <366ABA0F...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> >> Philllips") wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> >> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> >> >> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> >> >> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> >> >
> >> >=============================================
> >> >
> >> >Phillips
> >> >
> >> >It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
> >>
> >> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
> >> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
> >
> >========================================
> >
> >Philllips
> >
> >For the edification of the lexically-challenged, I will again point out that it
> >has been mentioned several times in SPOTLIGHT.
>
> That's nice... but it's not evidence of your claim, Liar. For all we know,
> SPOTLIGHT merely made the same claim, sans factual support.
>
> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
========================================
PHillips
Cite your evidence that there ever was such a thing as an execution gas chamber and
that its use was widespread. Must include detailed drawings.
=======================================
Richard Phillips
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
==============================================
PHillips
Having neither sub poena powers nor the resources of a large detective bureau, there
is no way I can supply to you the cancelled checks which, alone, would settle the
matter conclusively.
However, on an issue of this sort, One can call upon two faculties: an elementary
knowledge of how the world runs and a little plain horse sense. Now I fully realize
that Jewboys, for all that they prate about "objectivity" and "rationality," can
rarely be convinced of something they do not wish to believe, but I'm going to try
anyway. Have you ever asked yourself why it is that there has been a huge precentage
of Jews among Clinton's top-level appointments. Have you. (I can supply names if
you wish.) Do you imagine he does this merely in the pursuit of "diversity" hmm, or
does the possibility enter your mind that these appointments are PAYOFFS for
something, and just what do you suppose that something is? This is something even
you ought to be able to work out.
=================================================================
Yale F. Edeiken
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >> >> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> > >> >> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> > >> >> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> > >> >It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
> > >> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
> > >> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
> > >For the edification of the lexically-challenged, I will again point out that it
> > >has been mentioned several times in SPOTLIGHT.
> > That's nice... but it's not evidence of your claim, Liar. For all we know,
> > SPOTLIGHT merely made the same claim, sans factual support.
> > Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> > Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> > documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> Having neither sub poena powers nor the resources of a large detective bureau, there
> is no way I can supply to you the cancelled checks which, alone, would settle the
> matter conclusively.
Sure there is. Write to the federal agency with which audits of all federal office
campaigns are filed. All large contributors must be listed by name. Ask for copies.
> However, on an issue of this sort, One can call upon two faculties: an elementary
> knowledge of how the world runs and a little plain horse sense.
Neither of which you possess.
Now do you have any evidence other than a publication of doubtful credibility or
were you just shooting your mouth off?
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips with evidence is
>> irrelevant.
>
>============================================
>
>PHillips
>
>Irrelevant, indeed. How very interesting. For months and months and months the
>Holocaust tribe has been insisting that, yes, they HAVE provided me with the
>evidence. NOw, one of their more vocal hangers-on (if not of the more
intelligent
>ones) now says, and I quote:
>
>"Whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips with evidence is
>irrelevant. "
Liar claims that my assertion that he has lied is:
>...without basis for the good and sufficient reason that no one --
>repeat: NO ONE-- has ever provided me with one solitary goddam thing
>that could possibly pass muster as sollid evidence...
Alas, the question of whether anyone has actually provided Liar Philllips
with evidence is irrelevant to the issue of Philllips' lying. He _has_
lied about changing his demands, as I have documented repeatedly, and this
would be true whether anyone had provided him with any evidence of any
type, or not.
Your lies have been documented, Philllips. You've compounded them numerous
times, by lying further when the original lies were exposed. You are a
liar now and forever. Learn to live with the consequences of your choices.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
>> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
>> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>
>========================================
>
>PHillips
>
>Cite your evidence that there ever was such a thing as an execution gas chamber
>and that its use was widespread. Must include detailed drawings.
Liar Philllips, as as already been documented numerous times in this
newsgroup, is known to make demands of this sort, change them when any
attempt to provide the demanded evidence is made, and then lie about have
changed his demands.
Now, back to the claim you seem so eager for us to forget, Liar:
Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
documented liar are, of course, worthless.
JGB
Jeffrey G. Brown
Philllips") wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
>> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
>> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>
>==============================================
>
>PHillips
>
>Having neither sub poena powers nor the resources of a large detective
bureau, there
>is no way I can supply to you the cancelled checks which, alone, would
settle the
>matter conclusively.
>
>However, on an issue of this sort, One can call upon two faculties: an
elementary
>knowledge of how the world runs and a little plain horse sense. Now I
fully realize
>that Jewboys, for all that they prate about "objectivity" and
"rationality," can
>rarely be convinced of something they do not wish to believe, but I'm
going to try
>anyway. Have you ever asked yourself why it is that there has been a huge
precentage
>of Jews among Clinton's top-level appointments. Have you. (I can supply
names if
>you wish.) Do you imagine he does this merely in the pursuit of
"diversity" hmm, or
>does the possibility enter your mind that these appointments are PAYOFFS for
>something, and just what do you suppose that something is? This is
something even
>you ought to be able to work out.
Not even close, Liar. The suppositions and hand-waving arguments of a
known and documented liar are even more worthless than his assertions.
Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
documented liar are, as I have already pointed out, worthless.
Dr D E Michael
> Now do you have any evidence other than a publication of doubtful credibility or
> were you just shooting your mouth off?
>
> --YFE
Aw shut up, Edeiken, and answer this:
The following is taken from Message-ID: <35ae9a2...@news.srv.ualberta.ca> 17 July 1998
posted to this newsgroup by Mr John Morris of the University of Alberta.
<begin quote>
murder n. & v. --n. 1 the unlawful premeditated killing of a human
being by another (cf. MANSLAUGHTER). 2 colloq. an unpleasant,
troublesome, or dangerous state of affairs (it was murder here on
Saturday). --v.tr. 1 kill (a human being) unlawfully, esp. wickedly or
inhumanly. 2 *Law* kill (a human being) with a premeditated motive. 3
colloq. utterly defeat or spoil by a bad performance, mispronunciation
etc. (murdered the soliloquy in the second act) -*cry blue murder* sl.
make an extravagant outcry. *get away with murder* colloq. do whatever
ones wishes and escape punishment. *murder will out* murder cannot
remain undetected. - - murderer n. murderess n. [OE morthor & OF
murdre f Gmc]
--from _The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English_. 8th ed.
First ed. H.W. and F.G. Fowler. Eighth ed. R.E. Allen.
Oxford: Clarendon, 1990. p. 780, col 1.
<end quote>
Do you now accept that this is a truthful and accurate presentation of the definition of the
word 'murder' as it appears in the eighth edition of the Concise Oxford English Dictionary? Yes
or no, Mr Edeiken?
Mark Van Alstine
> >
> > Now do you have any evidence other than a publication of
doubtful credibility or
> > were you just shooting your mouth off?
> >
> > --YFE
>
> Aw shut up, Edeiken, and answer this:
Aw, go blow a donkey, Dr. Nazi cocksucker.
> The following is taken from Message-ID:
<35ae9a2...@news.srv.ualberta.ca> 17 July 1998
> posted to this newsgroup by Mr John Morris of the University of Alberta.
>
> <begin quote>
> murder n. & v. --n. 1 the unlawful premeditated killing of a human
> being by another (cf. MANSLAUGHTER). 2 colloq. an unpleasant,
> troublesome, or dangerous state of affairs (it was murder here on
> Saturday). --v.tr. 1 kill (a human being) unlawfully, esp. wickedly or
> inhumanly. 2 *Law* kill (a human being) with a premeditated motive. 3
> colloq. utterly defeat or spoil by a bad performance, mispronunciation
> etc. (murdered the soliloquy in the second act) -*cry blue murder* sl.
> make an extravagant outcry. *get away with murder* colloq. do whatever
> ones wishes and escape punishment. *murder will out* murder cannot
> remain undetected. - - murderer n. murderess n. [OE morthor & OF
> murdre f Gmc]
>
> --from _The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English_. 8th ed.
> First ed. H.W. and F.G. Fowler. Eighth ed. R.E. Allen.
> Oxford: Clarendon, 1990. p. 780, col 1.
> <end quote>
>
> Do you now accept that this is a truthful and accurate presentation of the
> definition of the word 'murder' as it appears in the eighth edition of the
> Concise Oxford English Dictionary? Yes
> or no, Mr Edeiken?
No. The definition of the word "murder" in the 8th edition of the OED is
not accurate. (Evidence that the 8th ed. was in error is provided by the
fact that it differs from defiitions offered in 6th, 7th, and 9th edition
of the OED.) Nor does it meet the legal definition of murder.
Moreover, it look like Dr. Nazi cocksucker has some answering to do for
his deceits and lies:
In article <36684EDF...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk
(David E. Michael near Basildon, Essex, UK; aka Dr. Nazi cocksucker) spit
out:
> Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>
> > > Dr D E Michael <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> the lyinh nazi gabblkes:
[snip]
> > > Oh yes? With half of your colleagues accusing you of lying?
> > > Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuur
> >
> > Please name such a colleague.
> >
>
> With pleasure. The classic reference that proves beyond any doubt that
> Mr Edeiken is SUCH a liar that even his fellow anti-revisionists condemn
> his behaviour is
>
> <Pine.SOL.3.96.98081...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
[snip]
> <begin quote>
> You have ignored the fact that it
> was John Morris who brought the evidence of Yale's deception to a.r., and
> that another member of the "Nizlot" condemned Yale for this when the
> evidence was presented. And still you talk about "the exterminationist
> lobby" as a single entity.
> <end quote>
This stalking horse about Mr. Edeiken's alleged "lie" is a good example of
Dr. Nazi cocksucker's modus operandi: when losing the debate he grasps at
any straw, no matter how "disgusting by any standards," that might deflect
the discussion away from his moral and intellectual bankruptcy.
Subject: Re: Is Cuddles an Asshole -- Yes
Author: Cuddles
Email: Cud...@cableinet.co.uk
Date: 1998/07/22
Forums: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <35B65C...@cableinet.co.uk>
<begin quote>
Edeiken's allegation:
Message-ID: <35aaa...@news3.enter.net> 14 July 1998
'The Concise OED (9th Edition) contains no such definition.'
and, more seriously,
'I don't believe you. But then I checked the 6th, 7th and 8th. Te
definition has not changed one whit. Your defintion is not there. You
lied.'
Note that Edeiken claims to have checked the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th
editions, so there can be no question that he would have inadvertently
'missed' something.
The refutation of Edeiken's allegation by John Morris who posted the
complete definition:
'Message-ID: <35ae9a2...@news.srv.ualberta.ca> 17 July 1998
murder n. & v. --n. 1 the unlawful premeditated killing of a human
being by another (cf. MANSLAUGHTER). 2 colloq. an unpleasant,
troublesome, or dangerous state of affairs (it was murder here on
Saturday). --v.tr. 1 kill (a human being) unlawfully, esp. wickedly or
inhumanly. 2 *Law* kill (a human being) with a premeditated motive. 3
colloq. utterly defeat or spoil by a bad performance, mispronunciation
etc. (murdered the soliloquy in the second act) -*cry blue murder* sl.
make an extravagant outcry. *get away with murder* colloq. do whatever
ones wishes and escape punishment. *murder will out* murder cannot
remain undetected. - - murderer n. murderess n. [OE morthor & OF
murdre f Gmc]
--from _The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English_. 8th ed.
First ed. H.W. and F.G. Fowler. Eighth ed. R.E. Allen.
Oxford: Clarendon, 1990. p. 780, col 1.
<end quote>
Subject: Re: Is Cuddles an Asshole -- Yes
Author: Cuddles
Email: Cud...@cableinet.co.uk
Date: 1998/07/23
Forums: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <35B719...@cableinet.co.uk>
<begin quote>
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>
> > Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> > You have not explained why you said my definition was not in the
> > dictionary when it was. Here is the evidence:
>
> Because it was not in the one I checked.
You said you checked the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th editions. How could you
miss it four times?
Cuddles
<end quote>
Subject: Re: Is Cuddles an Asshole -- Yes
Author: John Morris
Email: John....@x-nospam-x.UAlberta.CA
Date: 1998/07/23
Forums: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <35b7a3e...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
<begin quote>
In <35B719...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:07:03
+0100, Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>> > Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>> > You have not explained why you said my definition was not in the
>> > dictionary when it was. Here is the evidence:
>> Because it was not in the one I checked.
>You said you checked the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th editions. How could you
>miss it four times?
The definition of which you are so fond is not in the seventh edition.
<end quote>
Subject: Re: Is Cuddles an Asshole -- Yes
Author: Cuddles
Email: Cud...@cableinet.co.uk
Date: 1998/07/24
Forums: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <35B85A...@cableinet.co.uk>
<begin quote>
John Morris wrote:
>
> In <35B719...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:07:03
> +0100, Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>
> >> > Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >> > You have not explained why you said my definition was not in the
> >> > dictionary when it was. Here is the evidence:
>
> >> Because it was not in the one I checked.
>
> >You said you checked the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th editions. How could you
> >miss it four times?
>
> The definition of which you are so fond is not in the seventh edition.
Looks to me as if what might have happened, giving him the benefit of
the doubt, is that he checked the seventh and ninth edition, found it
wasn't there, and therefore assumed that it wasn't in the eighth. But
his conduct since then, in failing to admit what he'd done, is pretty
disgusting by any standards. If I hadn't doubted the Holocaust before I
encountered Yale, I certainly would after that little exhibition.
<end quote>
Where is the "lie" that Mr. Edeiken has allegedly committed? Why, even Dr.
Nazi cocksucker seemed to have given him "the benefit of the doubt" that
it was a simple error! Yet, since then, Dr. Nazi cocksucker has passed up
few opporunities to slander Mr. Edeiken over this faux "lie." Now _that's_
"pretty disgusting by any standards"! How unsuprising, though, as it is
par for Dr. Nazi cocksucker, the slanderer and stalker of WWII vets.
Moreover, it appears that the 6th, 7th, and 9th editions of the OED
contradict Dr. Nazi cocksucker. IOW, Dr. Nazi cocksucker "happened" to
pick the one edition of the four OEDs- the one that is _clearly_ in error
-that he could twist to support his Nazi apologist canard. How
unsuprising. Now that too is "pretty disgusting by any standards." Again
how unsuprising, as it is par for Dr. Nazi cocksucker, the fascile
misrepresenter and distorter of sources.
[snip]
BTW, here's the part Dr. Nazi cocksucker _didn't_ quote:
Subject: Re: Mr. McClelland's
Author: Laura Finsten
Email: fin...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA
Date: 1998/08/13
Forums: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.98081...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
<begin quote>
Were you merely playing a game, Mr. C? Was the entire point to draw
attention away from your own game with the dictionary by challenging Yale
in this way? So that you could interpret his failure to follow through on
it a concession that he had lied? Or whine that he was trying to track
you down if he did follow through on it?
[..]
Implicit in your challenge to Yale was the charge that by lying about your
choice of definitions of murder, he had defamed you. Just as implicit in
your statement of support for an "Axis government" is support, tacit at
least, of Nazi policies.
<end quote>
IOW, David E. Michael is a Nazi cocksucker. Furthermore, since he has also
denied being a Nazi, which he _is_ since he has stated "support for an
'Axis government' which is, at the very least tacit support of Nazi
policies, he is a liar as well.
> Splattered again...
...And it is all over Dr. Nazi cocksucker's face.
> Edeiken? Shame.
Speaking of shame, does Dr. Nazi Cocksucker have any? (A rhetorical question.)
Subject: Re: Cuddles Would Have Preferred an "Axis Government"
Re: Cuddles Would Have Preferred an "Axis Government"
Author: Laura Finsten
Email: fin...@mcmaster.ca
Date: 1998/08/23
Forums: alt.revisionism
<begin quote>
Cuddles wrote:
> Gord McFee wrote:
> > In <35DC86...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:26:58 +0100,
> > Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> > [deleted]
> > > Second, despite the much repeated 'random allegation' that there was
> > > something dishonest about my choice of dictionary definitions, I haven't
> > > seen much sound argument to back this up. I was asked for a definition
> > > of murder 'within the common understanding of the term'. Note the word
> > > 'within'. I was not asked for a legal definition. Had I been asked for a
> > > legal definition I would have looked for one.
> > The point is that you were asked that in a debate about whether Harris
> > should have been charged with murder. Since charging someone with
> > murder is a decidedly legal affair, it should have occurred to you that
> > a legal definition would be required.
> Look it up on Dejanews. I was asked to provide argument to show that the
> bombing of Dresden was murder 'within the common understanding of the
> word'.
But Mr. C., a good hermeneutic approach requires that one give careful
consideration to context when making interpretations. In this case, the
context was a discussion of the legality or illegality of actions
causing civilian deaths during World War II. And for that reason,
choosing the one definition which does not have meaning in a legal
context from among the alternatives available is, in my opinion, an
example of intellectual dishonesty. Rather than advance the discussion,
it derailed it. Was that your intent?
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Laura Finsten "I never saw a wild
thing
sorry for itself"
D.H. Lawrence
<end quote>
Mark Van Alstine
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> > In article <366B8980...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net ("Liar
> > Philllips") wrote:
> >
> > >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <366ABA0F...@earthlink.net>, rgp...@earthlink.net
("Liar
> > >> Philllips") wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >> >> Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> > >> >> Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> > >> >> documented liar are, of course, worthless.
> > >> >
> > >> >=============================================
> > >> >
> > >> >Phillips
> > >> >
> > >> >It has been frequently mentioned in SPOTLIGHT.
> > >>
> > >> Translation: Liar Philllips has again made an assertion with no
> > >> perceivable evidence for corroboration.
> > >
> > >========================================
> > >
> > >Philllips
> > >
> > >For the edification of the lexically-challenged, I will again point
out that it
> > >has been mentioned several times in SPOTLIGHT.
> >
> > That's nice... but it's not evidence of your claim, Liar. For all we know,
> > SPOTLIGHT merely made the same claim, sans factual support.
> >
> > Cite your evidence that "Jews make 50% of the contributions to the
> > Democratic Party", Philllips. The unfounded assertions of a known and
> > documented liar are, of course, worthless.
>
> ========================================
>
> PHillips
>
> Cite your evidence that there ever was such a thing as an execution gas
> chamber and that its use was widespread. Must include detailed drawings.
Been there, done that, Dickie. You chickened out and ran away like a
"brave" Nazi.
Mark Van Alstine
[snip]
> I consider it to be wishful thinking.
Yes, Dickie, your attempts at denying the Holocaust _are_ wishful thinking.
[snip]
Chuck Ferree
Dr D E Michael wrote:
> >
> > Now do you have any evidence other than a publication of doubtful credibility or
> > were you just shooting your mouth off?
> >
> > --YFE
>
> Aw shut up, Edeiken, and answer this:
>
> The following is taken from Message-ID: <35ae9a2...@news.srv.ualberta.ca> 17 July 1998
> posted to this newsgroup by Mr John Morris of the University of Alberta.
>
> <begin quote>
> murder n. & v. --n. 1 the unlawful premeditated killing of a human
> being by another (cf. MANSLAUGHTER). 2 colloq. an unpleasant,
> troublesome, or dangerous state of affairs (it was murder here on
> Saturday). --v.tr. 1 kill (a human being) unlawfully, esp. wickedly or
> inhumanly. 2 *Law* kill (a human being) with a premeditated motive. 3
> colloq. utterly defeat or spoil by a bad performance, mispronunciation
> etc. (murdered the soliloquy in the second act) -*cry blue murder* sl.
> make an extravagant outcry. *get away with murder* colloq. do whatever
> ones wishes and escape punishment. *murder will out* murder cannot
> remain undetected. - - murderer n. murderess n. [OE morthor & OF
> murdre f Gmc]
>
> --from _The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English_. 8th ed.
> First ed. H.W. and F.G. Fowler. Eighth ed. R.E. Allen.
> Oxford: Clarendon, 1990. p. 780, col 1.
> <end quote>
>
> Do you now accept that this is a truthful and accurate presentation of the definition of the
> word 'murder' as it appears in the eighth edition of the Concise Oxford English Dictionary? Yes
> or no, Mr Edeiken?
CF:>>>Don't know when you're beat, eh, cuddles?
Chuck Ferree