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hoaxb...@earthlink.net

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Oct 2, 2007, 1:57:53 PM10/2/07
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The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday/chi-liberty_tuesoct02,0,1050179.story?page=1

There need be no more doubt that the attack was deliberate. The
Israeli pilots were telling their ground-based commanders that they
could see the American flag. Secret American-recorded transcripts of
Israeli communications prove it. The Israeli pilots asked whether
they were still to attack and were clearly told that they should.
There was NO accident. The attack was deliberate. Exactly why
remains a mystery. And why the US government has covered up the truth
remains a mystery as well. But, we can guess. President Johnson was
furious but frightened.

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
The "holocaust" is anti-German racism dressed up as history.

Neil H.

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<hoaxb...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
> the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.
>
>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday/chi-liberty_tuesoct02,0,1050179.story?page=1

Good article! And about fucking time!

Neil


Neil H.

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"Philip Mathews" <philip...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Oct 2, 1:57 pm, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"

> <hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
> > the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.
> >
> > http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday...

> >
> > There need be no more doubt that the attack was deliberate.
>
> First of all there was never any dispute that the attack was
> deliberate old boy.

The Israelis have denied it for 40 years, though just like the Holocaust
fables their denials have changed shape and form from time to time.


hoaxb...@earthlink.net

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The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/servic...dition/tuesday...

There need be no more doubt that the attack was deliberate. The
Israeli pilots were telling their ground-based commanders that they
could see the American flag. Secret American-recorded transcripts of

Israeli communications proved it. The Israeli pilots asked whether


they were still to attack and were clearly told that they should.
There was NO accident. The attack was deliberate. Exactly why
remains a mystery. And why the US government has covered up the
truth remains a mystery as well. But, we can guess.

President Johnson was furious but frightened. Did the Israelis have
something on him? Did they know something about the Kennedy
assasination that implicated Johnson or could have so embarrassed
him that his leadership as a president would have been severely
diminished.

George Bush, our president today, was protected by CBS and Sumner
Redstone when they crushed Dan Rather, their own TV news anchor,
rather than let Rather continue his revelations about the cowardly
role
Bush played during the Vietnam War with the assistance of his father.
As long as Bush, the current president, shows total devotion to
Israel,
he will be protected. During last year's war in Lebanon, Bush
declined
to make even one phone call to the Israelis for fear that it would be
seen as "pressure" on the Israelis. Bush was and is obviously scared,
not of terrorists, but of the pro-Israeli press in the US.

Isn't American democracy wonderful? What I think we see is a pattern
of jewish control that has been playing since Woodrow Wilson was
president. Wilson had good reason to be afraid that his extra-marital
love letters to Mrs. Peck would be publicized. A jewish cabal
consisting
of Jacob Schiff and Bernard Baruch had purchased those love letters
from Mrs. Peck's son for $10,000. Afterwards, Wilson was their
perfect
candidate for president and he won, even though he was a democrat
and there had been only one democrat president in the US since
Lincoln.

BradGuth

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Oct 2, 2007, 7:08:37 PM10/2/07
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On Oct 2, 3:39 pm, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"
<hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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This is all well and good, except official revisionism is still
extensively banished from mainstream media, and even if well enough
published by newspapers, it'll be decades if not more than a century
before textbooks are revised, if ever.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell

hoaxb...@earthlink.net

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Ideally, any healthy and sane society will try to keep people with a
scandalous past from its highest public office. But, in the US, a
scandallous past seems to be one of the job requirements for highest
office so that the president can be carefully controlled and
manipulated.

Benjamin Cramer

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:44:53 PM10/2/07
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Good news. It will probably wind up being buried however.


<hoaxb...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Benjamin Cramer

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:46:44 PM10/2/07
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"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's what we get for permitting well educated intellectuals to write
history. They create an image of what history should be, not necessarily
what the reality is.


Philip Mathews

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Oct 3, 2007, 10:43:15 AM10/3/07
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On Oct 2, 5:09 pm, "Neil H." <t...@s.unlisted> wrote:
> "Philip Mathews" <philipmath...@comcast.net> wrote in message

The Israeli's have never denied that the attack was deliberate,
stupid.

That is not even what the dispute is about.

--
Philip Mathews

hoaxb...@earthlink.net

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Oct 3, 2007, 10:57:26 AM10/3/07
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Contrary to what Philip Mathews alleges above, the Israelis have
ALWAYS insisted that the Israeli air-and-sea attack on the USS Liberty
was an "accident" and NOT deliberate at all..

That has always been their position. It is a lie, of course. But it
is a lie that goes back to the very day of the attack. That lie was
promoted from the very beginning by every American jewish politician
that could have any influene. Senator Jacob Javitz from New York was
most prominent at the beginning--but there have been countless other
Jews as well. Most prominent recently has been a Jewish Judge and
former Naval officer Judge Cristol (?) from Florida who supposedly did
the most detailed investigation and concluded that it was definitely
an accident.

To my knowledge, the Israelis have NEVER admitted that it was anything
but an "accident." If Mathews really has any evidence of an admission
on the part of the Israelis that it was "deliberate," he should
present it here. The surviving crew members of the USS Liberty will be
extremely interested. Put up or shut up Mathews

By the way, Mathews still believes in the Holocaust--so do not expect
him to give any kind of straight answer about Israel's crimes against
America.

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything www.nazigassings.com

Philip Mathews

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Oct 3, 2007, 11:06:26 AM10/3/07
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On Oct 3, 10:57 am, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"
<hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Contrary to what Philip Mathews alleges above, the Israelis have
> ALWAYS insisted that the Israeli air-and-sea attack on the USS Liberty
> was an "accident" and NOT deliberate at all..

Apparently the Nazi Berg has as much trouble with the English language
as other deniers.

The Israelis have never called the attack an accident. Obviously it
was deliberate. The question is whether they knew that their
deliberate attack was directed at an American ship.

>> To my knowledge, the Israelis have NEVER admitted that it was anything
> but an "accident."

Well, Berg, we've seen over the years that what one could buy with
your knowledge would feed an average family of four for about two
days.

--
Philip Mathews

hoaxb...@earthlink.net

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Oct 3, 2007, 12:34:40 PM10/3/07
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If Mathews really has any evidence of an admission
on the part of the Israelis that it was "deliberate," he should
present it here. The surviving crew members of the USS Liberty will
be
extremely interested. Put up or shut up Mathews

Friedrich Paul Berg

Nizkor Project

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Oct 3, 2007, 1:16:20 PM10/3/07
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<hoaxb...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Don't bother with Phil. He claimed Auschwitz victims are not part of the
holocaust. Guy is an idiot and changes his mind with every post.

RJ11

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Oct 3, 2007, 1:23:25 PM10/3/07
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In article <T7QMi.104$sm6...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
Nizkor Project <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:

(drivel given the snip)

"Nizkor Project <niz...@nizkor.org>", by the way, is the
nym adopted by the "revisionist" "snow", <snow...@sbcglobal.net>.
In case you wonder where he's coming from:

"I am a heroin addict but will do 'free' coke anytime. Usually
If I over do it with heroin I will go out of my way to get coke. If
I choose to do coke I always have couple bags of dope otherwise
coming down is a bitch" -- Posted by "snow <snow...@sbcglobal.net>",
Message-ID: <O2Gkh.40554$wc5....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>).


RJ.

Nizkor Project

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<hoaxb...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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An Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mark Regev, called the attack on the
Liberty "a tragic and terrible accident, a case of mistaken identity, for
which Israel has officially apologized." Israel also paid reparations of
$6.7 million to the injured survivors and the families of those killed in
the attack, and another $6 million for the loss of the Liberty itself.

Philip Mathews

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Oct 3, 2007, 4:27:09 PM10/3/07
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On Oct 3, 12:34 pm, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"
<hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> If Mathews really has any evidence of an admission
> on the part of the Israelis that it was "deliberate,"

They admitted it was deliberate, stupid, as anyone who knows anything
about the issue knows.

That's why they apologized and paid reparations and costs.

The issue is whether they knew they were attacking an American ship.

Got it yet old Nazi?

--

Philip Mathews

Philip Mathews

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On Oct 3, 1:16 pm, "Nizkor Project" <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:
> <hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>
> news:1191429280....@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > If Mathews really has any evidence of an admission
> > on the part of the Israelis that it was "deliberate," he should
> > present it here. The surviving crew members of the USS Liberty will
> > be
> > extremely interested. Put up or shut up Mathews

> Don't bother with Phil. He claimed Auschwitz victims are not part of the
> holocaust.

Don't bother with this anonymous coward. He lies and thinks he's doing
antisemitism and denial a favor.

--
Philip Mathews

Philip Mathews

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On Oct 3, 2:15 pm, "Nizkor Project" <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:
> <hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>
> news:1191347873.9...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
> > the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.
>
> >http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday...

>
> > There need be no more doubt that the attack was deliberate. The
> > Israeli pilots were telling their ground-based commanders that they
> > could see the American flag. Secret American-recorded transcripts of
> > Israeli communications prove it. The Israeli pilots asked whether
> > they were still to attack and were clearly told that they should.
> > There was NO accident. The attack was deliberate. Exactly why
> > remains a mystery. And why the US government has covered up the truth
> > remains a mystery as well. But, we can guess. President Johnson was
> > furious but frightened.

> An Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mark Regev, called the attack on the


> Liberty "a tragic and terrible accident, a case of mistaken identity, for
> which Israel has officially apologized."

That's right, mistaken identity, stupid.

Obviously they attacked the ship deliberately. The question is whether
they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty.

Just how dumb are you?

--
Philip Mathews

BradGuth

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On Oct 2, 7:01 pm, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"

<hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ideally, any healthy and sane society will try to keep people with a
> scandalous past from its highest public office. But, in the US, a
> scandallous past seems to be one of the job requirements for highest
> office so that the president can be carefully controlled and
> manipulated.

Faith-based puppeteering works most every time, as otherwise there's
always those rusemasters of spooks, moles plus those pesky Yid MIBs
for us to deal with.
- Brad Guth -

BradGuth

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Oct 3, 2007, 4:45:14 PM10/3/07
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On Oct 2, 7:46 pm, "Benjamin Cramer" <onlythetr...@alltimes.yep>
wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Perhaps WWIII will fix all of that, especially if we can get most all
of the rich and powerful as situated within one highly nukable spot.
- Brad Guth -

Curly C

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The Johnson Administration was behind this too. The problem was the
inept Jews couldn't sink the USS Liberty even with attacks by air and by
sea. The plan was for the ship to be sacrificed, then the Egyptians
blamed, and then the US could have nuked Egypt and made it a bigger
desert than it already is. Of course, this would all have been done to
keep the Russians out of the ME, who had been quoted for years saying
that a war with the west could be won without firing a shot by just
taking over the ME oil fields.

Its the same ole false flag bs that Israel and its US neocon cohorts
have been pulling for 60 years. They make it so obvious it is laughable.
The stupid Jews even danced a jig while the towers are burning. Bush had
to sneek those 5 out of the country fast before questions started
getting asked.

Philip Mathews

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On Oct 3, 5:21 pm, KeeponChoog...@webtv.net (Curly C) wrote:

> The Johnson Administration was behind this too. The problem was the
> inept Jews couldn't sink the USS Liberty even with attacks by air and by
> sea. The plan was for the ship to be sacrificed, then the Egyptians
> blamed,

It's nice writing history when you can just make up any old thing
which happens to come to mind, and such a mind it is too!

--
Philip Mathews


Nizkor Project

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"Philip Mathews" <philip...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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What are you talking about, It was me who said that it was the mistaken
identity. So you must be the dumb one here.

Philip Mathews

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On Oct 4, 7:37 am, "Nizkor Project" <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:
> "Philip Mathews" <philipmath...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1191443386.4...@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

> What are you talking about, It was me who said that it was the mistaken
> identity.

The discussion is about whether the attack was deliberate.

Pay attention, stupid.

--
Philip Mathews

BradGuth

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On Oct 2, 7:44 pm, "Benjamin Cramer" <onlythetr...@alltimes.yep>
wrote:

> Good news. It will probably wind up being buried however.

Faith-based puppeteered governments are usually at their very best
when covering their butts, so it's unlikely that unless the few and
far between good folks keep pressing for getting the officially
published truth out, it isn't going to happen, or much less ever get
revised in history textbooks that educate the general public.

Most of us might not like knowing just how badly snookered and
summarily dumbfounded we've been for all of these decades. At least
that's what most Jews and their brown-nosed American puppets are
counting on.
- Brad Guth -

BradGuth

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On Oct 4, 4:37 am, "Nizkor Project" <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:
> "Philip Mathews" <philipmath...@comcast.net> wrote in message

There was NO MISTAKEN IDENTITY.

BTW, what ever happened to all those captured Muslims?
- Brad Guth -

Nizkor Project

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"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Yes it was the mistaken identity. Don't you know that ISRAELI AIR FORCE is
so good that they hire blind pilots. I mean, it takes skill to be blind and
fly an airplane. So they couldn't see the American flag waving on the mast.

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <7HbNi.3448$4V6....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>,
Leading Revisionist Liar Snow, having pretended to be
credible as "Nizkor Project <Niz...@Nizkor.org>" wrote nothing
worth recalling.

Leading Revisionist Liar snow, you will have to do more than pretend
to be the Nizkor Project to overcome your well-deserved reputation
as a liar. You should also be aware of the fact that forging email
addresses is a direct violation of Prodigy's Acceptable Use Policy,
which fordids, in part:

"Illegal Activity - use of any of the Interactive Features for
illegal or fraudulent purposes in violation of applicable local,
state, national, international or foreign law, or to threaten
personal harm or property damage, including, for example:

[...]

"forging any messages or message headers, in whole or in part,
of any electronic transmission, originating or passing through
The Service, for an unlawful purpose;"

Leading Revisionist Scholar snow, it would be unfair, not to mention
inconsiderate, for anyone to label you as a liar without giving you
the opportunity to respond by supporting your specious assertions
with documentary evidence.

Question 1:

On July 25, 2007, you made two claims, to wit:

1. That no one was gassed at Auschwitz or Majdanek
2. That the "gas chamber in aushwitz were build by russians after the
so called liberation."

Please document your claims.

Question 2: On July 26, 2007, you wrote:

"I am still having a problem with the myth of gassing the jews."

Please support your assertion with documentary evidence that homocidal
gassings are a "myth."

Question 3:

On July 26, 2007, you claimed that, "jews come out with awards so they
could award other jews and it is all based on how much you paid and to
whom and actually has very little to do with achievements."

Please document these claims.

Question 4:

On July 29, 2007, you claimed, "...McVay in one of the threads stated
that 'if you question holocaust then you are automatically anti-Semite."

Please provide an exact Google Groups link to any article in which
I made such a statement.

Question 5:

In article <XEpri.55$3x...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
you wrote:

"In 1931 Stromberg v. California, the Jews defended Communists' free speech
rights. Six decades later, in R. v. Keegstra, the Jews sued to prevent the
teaching of an alternative to the Exterminationist theory known as
"Revisionism" -- and won."

Please provide documentary evidence that Mr. Keegstra was "sued by Jews" as
you claim, and show how the Supreme Court of Canada lied when it said:

Mr. James Keegstra was a high school teacher in Eckville,
Alberta, from the early 1970's until his dismissal in 1982.
In 1984, Mr. Keegstra was charged under s. 319(2) (then
281.2(2)) of the Criminal Code with unlawfully promoting
hatred against an identifiable group by communicating
anti-Semitic statements to his students. He was convicted by
a jury in a trial before McKenzie J. of the Alberta Court of
Queen's Bench.

Mr. Keegstra's teachings attributed various evil
qualities to Jews. He thus described Jews to his pupils as
''treacherous'', ''subversive'', ''sadistic'',
''money-loving'', ''power hungry'' and ''child killers''. He
taught his classes that Jewish people seek to destroy
Christianity and are responsible for depressions, anarchy,
chaos, wars and revolution. According to Mr. Keegstra, Jews
''created the Holocaust to gain sympathy'' and, in contrast
to the open and honest Christians, were said to be
deceptive, secretive and inherently evil. Mr. Keegstra
expected his students to reproduce his teachings in class
and on exams. If they failed to do so, their marks suffered.

Prior to his trial, Mr. Keegstra applied to the Court of
Queen's Bench in Alberta for an order quashing the charge on
a number of grounds, the primary one being that s. 319(2) of
the Criminal Code unjustifiably infringed his freedom of
expression as guaranteed by s. 2(b) of the Charter. Among
the other grounds of appeal was the allegation that the
defence of truth found in s. 319(3)(a) of the Code violates
the Charter's presumption of innocence. The application was
dismissed by Quigley J., and Mr. Keegstra was thereafter
tried and convicted. He then appealed his conviction to the
Alberta Court of Appeal, raising the same Charter issues.
The Court of Appeal unanimously accepted his argument, and
it is from this judgment that the Crown appeals.

The Attorneys-General of Canada, Quebec, Ontario,
Manitoba and New Brunswick, the Canadian Jewish Congress,
Interamicus, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith,
Canada, and the Women's Legal Education and Action Fund
(L.E.A.F.) have intervened in this appeal in support of the
Crown. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has
intervened in support of striking down the impugned
legislation.

Question 6:

In article <FNpri.56$3x...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, you wrote:

"Why is it that most if not all Holocaust supporting articles are written by
Jews or are sponsored by Jewish organization."

Please prove your claim by providing data which supports it. List all "Holocaust
supporting" articles and document the Jewish background of the authors.


Question 7:

On July 30, 2007, you wrote:

"...it was actually American Jews that sold iron and oil to Nazi
Germany by using Sweden as a proxy since American jews couldn't
deal directly with Nazi Germany.

"Sweden banks that financed it were run by Jews, as well as proxy
companies that were setup by jewish bank owners. Swedish people
didn't have a clue what was being done behind their backs."

Please document these assertions, naming the "American Jews"
involved and the Swedish banks that were "setup by Jewish bank
owners."

Question 8:

On July 31, 2007, you asked, "Why is it that most if not all Holocaust supporting
articles are written by Jews or are sponsored by Jewish organization."

Please provide the data upon which you based these assertions. Include a
comprehensive list of "Holocaust supporting articles <sic>" and their authors,
and show how each article is either written by a Jew or "sponsored by
Jewish organizations."

Question 9:

On August 1, 2007, you wrote, "[Wikipedia] is edited by members
who choose to exaggerate their own race or religion, and jews are
the forefront of such edits."

Please document your claims - particularly the one about the Jews
being in the "forefront of such edits."


Question 10:

On August 5, 2007, you wrote:

>Ken's website on Majdanek says 1.5 jews killed
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/maidanek/

...and...

>KEN IS LYING!!! to put the holocaust in the best light so people would
>associate the word HOLOCAUST with the JEWS and WW2 so then JEWS could cash
>in on HOLOCAUST by producing books, interviews, movies (all are tools of
>propaganda)

Let's visit http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/ and see what we
find, shall we?

In http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/commission-07, we find the Polish
Commission (not Nizkor) saying, "The Polish-Soviet Extraordinary
Commission finds that during the four years the Majdanek Extermination
Camp was in existence the Hitlerite butchers, on thc direct orders of
their criminal government, exterminated by means of wholesalc shooting
and wholesale asphyxiation in gas chambers of about one million five
hundred thousand persons-Soviet prisoners of war, prisoners of war of
the former Polish army, and civilians of different nationalities, such
as Poles, Frenchmen, Italians, Belgians, Netherlanders, Czechs, Serbs,
Greeks, Croatians and a vast number of Jews."

Gosh, Leading Revisionist Scholar snow has lied (again) about what "Nizkor says."

In the file http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/maidanek.02 we find
Nizkor quoting Sachar, who said, "Between February 1942 and July 1944 about
half a million Jews were destroyed there by gassing and by shooting."

Gosh! It seems Leading Revisionist Scholar snow has lied (again) about what "Nizkor
says."

In the file http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/maidanek.03,
Nizkor cites several sources, including Snyder, who wrote, ""It is
estimated that 1.5 million inmates were gassed at Maidanek."

(Snyder does NOT, the assertions of Leading Revisionist Scholar snow
notwithstanding, claim that all the victims were Jewish - that is,
he was lying - again.)

The same article quotes Davidowitz (1,380,000 dead) and Sachar (500,000 dead), while the
IFZ is quoted as saying that 50,000 *Jews* were murdered there.

The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust is then cited, in a piece on Majdanek written by
Lublin University's Zygmunt Mankowski, who wrote "close to 500,000 passed
through. Of those, according to current (1990) estimates, 360,000 died,
sixty percent from camp conditions, and forty percent from gassing, hanging,
or being shot."

Mankowski does not, contrary to your blather, claim that all the victims were Jews.

Now we get to the spot where NIZKOR says something, to wit:

"I suspect it may be impossible to determine the numbers, but this article
(EoH) struck me as reasonable, if for no other reason its mention of the
transport records and the trials, plus the bibliographic data. I'd
appreciate it if someone would check the earlier sources cited to determine
if any orignial source is offered, and get back to us."

>KEN IS LYING!!! to put the holocaust in the best light so people would
>associate the word HOLOCAUST with the JEWS and WW2 so then JEWS could cash
>in on HOLOCAUST by producing books, interviews, movies (all are tools of
>propaganda)

Please retract your lies, Leading Revisionist Scholar snow,
now that they have been exposed.

Question 11:

In article <CiJwi.1032$924...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, on August 15,
2007, you authored an article which claimed, quote, "Kenneth McVay a
pedophile and a child molester who molested his own daughter..."

Please document when and where any of my children have
made such statements or admit you cannot.

Question 12:

In article <TlJwi.1033$924...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, posted on
August 15, 2007, you made the following allegation:

"NIZKOR's self appointed director Ken McVay involved in tax fraud."

Document your allegation that I am involved in tax fraud, or retract it.

If someone has committed such an offense, you *must* report
to the federal authorites post haste. Not doing so is, in and of
itself, a crime.

Are you a criminal AND a liar, Leading Revisionist Ignoramus snow?


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in about 1950 but the letter was send to the state department about in 1940."
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Benjamin Cramer

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"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:13gak3g...@corp.supernews.com...

> In article <7HbNi.3448$4V6....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>,
> Leading Revisionist Liar Snow, having pretended to be
> credible as "Nizkor Project <Niz...@Nizkor.org>" wrote nothing
> worth recalling.
>
> Leading Revisionist Liar snow, you will have to do more than pretend
> to be the Nizkor Project to overcome your well-deserved reputation
> as a liar.

No lies from his end, faigelah. From your end,
however.............................................

Nizkor Project

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"Curly C" <KeeponC...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10020-470...@storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net...

Exactly. That is why the ISRAELI planes were unmarked so it would be blamed
on Egyptians. The funny thing is that everyone knows that but Americans who
are still kept in the dark. Sounds very similar to 9/11. Americans still
believe although more and more are skeptic, the official government story
with Osama in a cave leading from the cave and Arabic Muslims who barely
knew how to drive, flew a plane. Yet European and Asian news has been
pounding for years that MOSAD was behind recruiting Arabic hijackers.
Perhaps that is why Americans are NOT encouraged to learn any other
languages but English so they could be in the dark. False flag operation was
used by Hitler and many before him as well as many after Hitler, it is used
to persuade public view and always works.

Nizkor Project

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Actually you will have to do more to get my account banned,
I want everyone to know that McVay got offended and tried banning my account
and he succeeded actually but thank got for free newsreaders such as Google
groups and many others. As far as having NIZKOR for the screen name. It is
allowed to have any name anyone chooses to, I can be G.W>Bush if I wanted
to.
But McVay pissed me off and now I am going to utilize every free newsgroup
server from around the world to be NIZKOR. I want to see McVay steam up and
have a heart attack or a stroke. That will make my day. Shalom

"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:13gak3g...@corp.supernews.com...

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <O7gNi.6701$6p6....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
Leading Revisionist Scholar Snow, falsely pretending to
be "Nizkor Project <Niz...@Nizkor.org>" wrote:
>Actually you will have to do more to get my account banned,
>I want everyone to know that McVay got offended and tried banning my account
>and he succeeded actually but thank got for free newsreaders such as Google
>groups and many others. As far as having NIZKOR for the screen name. It is
>allowed to have any name anyone chooses to, I can be G.W>Bush if I wanted

I have no interest in having your account banned. If you freely choose to
thumb your nose at your ISP, and openly violate the policies YOU accepted
when you signed up, it isn't my problem.

Stop forging my email address and identity, and I'll stop pointing your
violations out to your ISP.

It's quite simple, Leading Revisionist Forger Snow, even if you are too
stupid to grok.


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"I did never anyone say this you must be living in your hologram."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar,
<Message-ID m4iyi.73821$fJ5.47642@pd7urf1no>)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Benjamin Cramer

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"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:13gbcup...@corp.supernews.com...

> In article <O7gNi.6701$6p6....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
> Leading Revisionist Scholar Snow, falsely pretending to
> be "Nizkor Project <Niz...@Nizkor.org>" wrote:
>>Actually you will have to do more to get my account banned,
>>I want everyone to know that McVay got offended and tried banning my
>>account
>>and he succeeded actually but thank got for free newsreaders such as
>>Google
>>groups and many others. As far as having NIZKOR for the screen name. It is
>>allowed to have any name anyone chooses to, I can be G.W>Bush if I wanted
>
> I have no interest in having your account banned. If you freely choose to
> thumb your nose at your ISP, and openly violate the policies YOU accepted
> when you signed up, it isn't my problem.
>
> Stop forging my email address and identity, and I'll stop pointing your
> violations out to your ISP.

Seems this is your email address and identity, faigelah:

Kenneth McVay OBC <kmc...@shell.vex.net>

Why do you lie so, faigelah?


BradGuth

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Oct 5, 2007, 5:16:35 AM10/5/07
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On Oct 4, 1:04 pm, "Nizkor Project" <Niz...@Nizkor.org> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

That's true, as the same BIAF(Braille Israeli Air Force) has so often
mistaken Muslims for dirt. It's those long white canes made by some
spendy American contractor, that which each aircraft had been
outfitted with, that's entirely at fault.
- Brad Guth -

Chris C. Larson

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Oct 5, 2007, 8:57:53 AM10/5/07
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Your shot at Jews and Christians is noted. Why don't you just ride
your Communist out of town by sundown?

BradGuth

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On Oct 5, 5:57 am, "Chris C. Larson" <larsonchris...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

My goodness, your pro anything Yiddish is as bad off as being in
support of our very own born-again resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush).
What other parts of the whole truth and nothing but the truth do you
think should be banished?

Say again as to how large that 6-Day war mass grave is.

BTW, there's a lot of good Jews and Christians, only too bad that they
seldom visit or much less contribute to anything within usenet,
whereas mostly the bad ones do.
- Brad Guth -

ZULU

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Philip Mathews wrote:

> On Oct 2, 5:09 pm, "Neil H." <t...@s.unlisted> wrote:
>
>>"Philip Mathews" <philipmath...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>

>>news:1191354364.0...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>>On Oct 2, 1:57 pm, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"


>>><hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>The Chicago Tribune has just broken some major new ground regarding
>>>>the Israeli air and sea attack on the USS Liberty in June of 1967.
>>
>>>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday...
>>
>>>>There need be no more doubt that the attack was deliberate.
>>

>>>First of all there was never any dispute that the attack was
>>>deliberate old boy.
>>
>>The Israelis have denied it for 40 years, though just like the Holocaust
>>fables their denials have changed shape and form from time to time.
>
>
> The Israeli's have never denied that the attack was deliberate,
> stupid.
>
> That is not even what the dispute is about.
>

WHAT A SCOOP!

ZULU

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Oct 6, 2007, 7:48:20 PM10/6/07
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Philip Mathews wrote:

> On Oct 3, 10:57 am, "hoaxbus...@earthlink.net"
> <hoaxbus...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Contrary to what Philip Mathews alleges above, the Israelis have
>>ALWAYS insisted that the Israeli air-and-sea attack on the USS Liberty
>>was an "accident" and NOT deliberate at all..
>
>
> Apparently the Nazi Berg has as much trouble with the English language
> as other deniers.
>
> The Israelis have never called the attack an accident. Obviously it
> was deliberate. The question is whether they knew that their
> deliberate attack was directed at an American ship.
>

YES, it was deliberately an accident...

philip...@comcast.net

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"ZULU" <zu...@grabuge.com> wrote in message
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Tell the idiot, stupid!

--
Philip Mathews


philip...@comcast.net

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"ZULU" <zu...@grabuge.com> wrote in message
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Poor Zulu, having been so decimated in other threads seems to be
trying desperately to find an opportunity to strike back.

You English is failing you once again.

--
Philip Mathews


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