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Richard Phillips

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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

> [Followups set]
>
> Archive/File: imt/nca/nca-06/nca-06-3339-PS
> Last-Modified: 1996/12/03
>
> Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Volume 6
> [Page 71]
>
> PARTIAL TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT 3339-PS
>
> OFFICIAL GAZETTE FOR THE OCCUPIED DUTCH
> TERRITORIES, YEAR 1941
>
> [Verordnungsblatt fuer die besetzten
> Niederlandischen Gebiete]
>
> Part 8, Page 143.
>
> Order of the Reich Commissioner for the Occupied
> Dutch Territories concerning Marriages of Male
> Persons of German Nationality in the Occupied
> Netherlands Territories, and Related Matters,
> February 28, 1941.
>
> In pursuance of Section 5 of the decrees of the
> Fuehrer concerning the exercise of governmental
> authority in the Netherlands of May 18, 1940
> (RGB1, I, p. 778), I hereby order as follows:
>
> Section 1
>
> (1) The marriage of a male person of German nationality
> shall have validity only if the marriage ceremony is
> performed by a German official.
>
> *******
>
> Section 4
>
> (1) Upon the application of a female person of Netherlands
> nationality intending to marry a German and requiring for
> such marriage, in accordance with Articles 92-98 of the
> Netherlands Civil Code, the consent of her parents,
> grandparents, guardian, or guardians, the approval of the
> Reich Commissioner for the occupied Netherlands territories
> (through the Commissioner General for the Administration of
> Justice) may grant dispensation form the observance of the
> waiting period required in accordance with Articles 91 and
> 103 of the Netherlands Civil Code.
>
> *******
>
> The Hague, February 28,1941.
> Reich Commissioner for the
> Occupied Dutch Territories
> SEYSS-INQUART
>
> --
> The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
> Ken McVay, Director.ICQ 7015822. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
> Pentium III: Big Brother Inside

===============================================
Phillips

Are we supposed to be horrified at this?

===========================

Jeffrey G. Brown

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In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, Liar Philllips
<rgph...@mediaone.net> wrote:

>Are we supposed to be horrified at this?

No one expects you to be horrified at anything, Liar. You've demonstrated
time and again your utter lack of regard for honesty, integrity, or any
other moral value.

JGB

=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
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Allan Matthews

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In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
says...

>Are we supposed to be horrified at this?

How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
marry?

Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
Nazi dictatorship.

allan
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DeppityBob

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>Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
>
>===========================


No. You are supposed to be educated by this.

Dep

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Richard Phillips

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Allan Matthews wrote:

> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
>

> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
> marry?
>
> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
> Nazi dictatorship.
>
> allan

==================================================
PHillips

Apparently you DIDN'T forget.

As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,
prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.
So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
the State to have a say in such matters.
=======================================================

Richard Phillips

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DeppityBob wrote:

> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> >

> >===========================
>
> No. You are supposed to be educated by this.
>
> Dep

=========================================
Phillips

Educated regarding what?
======================

Allan Matthews

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In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
says...

>Allan Matthews wrote:
>
>> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
>> says...
>> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
>>
>> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
>> marry?

Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this point.

>> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
>> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
>> Nazi dictatorship.
>

>Apparently you DIDN'T forget.

Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.

>As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
>pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,
>prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.

Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So, once
again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
subject matter at hand.

Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.

>So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
>the State to have a say in such matters.

I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.

allan

Richard Phillips

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Allan Matthews wrote:

> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> says...
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> >> says...
> >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> >>
> >> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
> >> marry?
>
> Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this point.
>
> >> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
> >> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
> >> Nazi dictatorship.
> >
> >Apparently you DIDN'T forget.
>
> Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.
>
> >As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
> >pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,
> >prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.
>
> Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So, once
> again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
> subject matter at hand.

==========================================
Phillips

thank you for strengthening my point.

===============================

>
>
> Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
> the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.

=============================================
Phillips

why do you find them disgusting?

==================================

>
>
> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
> >the State to have a say in such matters.
>
> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.

=====================================
Phillips

Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil the nazis
were.

==============================================

Allan Matthews

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In article <36D9FA6A...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
says...
>Allan Matthews wrote:
>
>> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
>> says...
>> >Allan Matthews wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
>> >> says...
>> >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
>> >>
>> >> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
>> >> marry?
>>
>> Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this point.
>>
>> >> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
>> >> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
>> >> Nazi dictatorship.
>> >
>> >Apparently you DIDN'T forget.
>>
>> Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.
>>
>> >As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
>> >pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,
>> >prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.
>>
>> Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So, once
>> again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
>> subject matter at hand.
>
>thank you for strengthening my point.

How does demonstrating your ignornance make your point?

>> Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
>> the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.
>

>why do you find them disgusting?

You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
I don't. It's that simple.

>> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
>> >the State to have a say in such matters.
>>
>> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.

>Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil the nazis
>were.

Nonsense, liar. All I said was "How would you like the State telling you
who you could and couldn't marry?" Nowhere in that statement is there
anything about the relative evilness of the Nazis.

Kenneth McVay OBC

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Orac

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In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, Richard Phillips
<rgph...@mediaone.net> wrote:

>As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
>pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,
>prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.

>So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
>the State to have a say in such matters.

Of course, such laws were ruled un-Constitutional, and no longer exist.

--
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a.k.a. |
David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again

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>
>DeppityBob wrote:
>
>> >
>> >
>> >Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>> >
>> >===============================================
>> >Phillips

>> >
>> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
>> >
>> >===========================
>>
>> No. You are supposed to be educated by this.
>>
>> Dep
>
>=========================================
>Phillips
>
>Educated regarding what?
>======================

What, did you have a memory lapse between the top of the page and the bottom?


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DeppityBob wrote:

===================================================
Phillips

I repeat: Educated regarding what. If your object is to demonstrate how uniquely
and unutterably evil the Nazis were, then I beg leave to direct your attention to
a post of mine in which I pointed out that, up until around the 1950s, several of
our states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages. Mr. Matthews was good
enough to point out that I had in fact understated the case, that in several
cases these laws persisted BEYOND the 1950s.

So I repeat: educated regarding what?
=====================================================================

Richard Phillips

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Allan Matthews wrote:

> In article <36D9FA6A...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> says...
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> >> says...
> >> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> >> >> says...

> >> >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> >> >>

> >> >> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
> >> >> marry?
> >>
> >> Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this point.
> >>
> >> >> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
> >> >> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
> >> >> Nazi dictatorship.
> >> >
> >> >Apparently you DIDN'T forget.
> >>
> >> Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.
> >>

> >> >As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
> >> >pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,

> >> >prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages.
> >>
> >> Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So, once
> >> again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
> >> subject matter at hand.
> >
> >thank you for strengthening my point.
>
> How does demonstrating your ignornance make your point?
>
> >> Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
> >> the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.
> >
> >why do you find them disgusting?
>
> You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> I don't. It's that simple.
>

> >> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
> >> >the State to have a say in such matters.
> >>

> >> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.
>
> >Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil the nazis
> >were.
>
> Nonsense, liar. All I said was "How would you like the State telling you
> who you could and couldn't marry?" Nowhere in that statement is there
> anything about the relative evilness of the Nazis.

====================================================
Phillips

there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind the
words. The question "How would you like the State telling you who you could and
couldn't marry?" is an obviously rhetorical question to which the politically-correct
answer is: of course not. But did the question have no purpose? And wasn't that
purpose to demonstrate how evil the nazi state was. Understandably, you had to back
off from that when I pointed out that several American states once had comparable
laws.
===============================================

Richard Phillips

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Richard Phillips wrote:

==============================================
PHilllips

I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two congenital
idiots and their consequent propagation.

=============================================================

Richard Phillips

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Richard Phillips wrote:

============================================
Phillips

By pointing out that the American laws forbidding White/Negro marriages persisted for even
longer than I had supposed they had.
===================

Richard Phillips

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In article <36DA6F83...@mediaone.net>,
Richard Phillips <rgph...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>
> Richard Phillips wrote:
>
> > Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> > > In article <36D9FA6A...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > > says...
> > > >Allan Matthews wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > > >> says...
> > > >> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > > >> >> says...
> > > >> >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
> > > >> >> marry?
> > > >>
> > > >> Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this
point.
> > > >>
> > > >> >> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing
Jew and
> > > >> >> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen
in a
> > > >> >> Nazi dictatorship.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Apparently you DIDN'T forget.
> > > >>
> > > >> Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.
> > > >>
> > > >> >As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom,
it
> > > >> >pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out
that,
> > > >> >prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro
marriages.
> > > >>
> > > >> Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So,
once
> > > >> again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
> > > >> subject matter at hand.
> > > >
> > > >thank you for strengthening my point.
> > >
> > > How does demonstrating your ignornance make your point?
> > >
> > > >> Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
> > > >> the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.
> > > >
> > > >why do you find them disgusting?
> > >
> > > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> > > I don't. It's that simple.
>
> ==============================================
> PHilllips
>
> I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two
congenital
> idiots and their consequent propagation.

Your parents didn't.

>
> =============================================================
>
> >
> > >
> > > >> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it
proper for
> > > >> >the State to have a say in such matters.
> > > >>
> > > >> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.
> > >
> > > >Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil
the nazis
> > > >were.
> > >
> > > Nonsense, liar. All I said was "How would you like the State telling you
> > > who you could and couldn't marry?" Nowhere in that statement is there
> > > anything about the relative evilness of the Nazis.
> >
> > ====================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind
the
> > words. The question "How would you like the State telling you who you could
and
> > couldn't marry?" is an obviously rhetorical question to which the
politically-correct
> > answer is: of course not. But did the question have no purpose? And wasn't
that
> > purpose to demonstrate how evil the nazi state was. Understandably, you had
to back
> > off from that when I pointed out that several American states once had
comparable
> > laws.
> > ===============================================


I note that you've avoided answering the question.

> >
> > >
> > >
> > > allan
> > > --
> > > ================================================================
> > > allan_m...@bigfoot.com
> > > ================================================================
> > > "Some people just cannot be permitted to have the same rights"
> > > ---> 'Richard G. Philllips'
> > > ================================================================
> > > http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/
> > > ================================================================
>
>

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In article <36DA6F83...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
says...
>> Allan Matthews wrote:
>> > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
>> > I don't. It's that simple.
>
>I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two congenital
>idiots and their consequent propagation.

Well, looking at the results generated by your parents, perhaps there
should have been a law...

ROTFLMAO!

fled...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <36DA68FA...@mediaone.net>, Liar Philllips
<rgph...@mediaone.net> wrote:

>there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind
>the words.

In other words, when Liar Philllips can't deal effectively with the point
you actually made, he'll claim it was really some other point, and then
yammer about that. It's called the "straw man" fallacy, a favorite of
lying bigots everywhere...

JGB

=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'

Richard Phillips

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Allan Matthews wrote:

> In article <36DA6F83...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> says...
> >> Allan Matthews wrote:
> >> > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> >> > I don't. It's that simple.
> >
> >I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two congenital
> >idiots and their consequent propagation.
>
> Well, looking at the results generated by your parents, perhaps there
> should have been a law...

========================================
Phillips

This is what passes for a clever rejoinder on A.R.
=================================

Jeffrey G. Brown

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Merrell Wasson wrote:

> Bill Nicholson wrote:
> >Hey Bruce! It was explained to me by an old Toronto
> >Police mechanic, that the fins on the front jug are
> >designed to direct the air to the rear cyl and the
> >rear fins are made to match in appearance , which
> >also transfers heat! Bill.
>
MW:
> not to mention the difficulty/cost in making the patterns for the
> castings, and getting the proper flow rate and solidification to keep
> scrap at a minimum.


It would also mean two different castings. (and tooling) One for the
front, one for the rear. The cost of a Harley is already up there, I
don't need no more!

Preacher

Richard Phillips

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Allan Matthews wrote:

> In article <36DA6F83...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> says...
> >> Allan Matthews wrote:
> >> > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> >> > I don't. It's that simple.
> >
> >I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two congenital
> >idiots and their consequent propagation.
>
> Well, looking at the results generated by your parents, perhaps there
> should have been a law...
>

> ROTFLMAO!

===============================
Phillips

Rollling on the floor, laughing my ass off - yes?

If you ever manage to recover from the terminal convulsions occasioned by what you hope
to pass off as a "joke," permit me to recall you to the issue on the table: can
circumstances ever arise where the wish ot two persons to get married might be a
legitimate concern of Society as well as of themselves. I believe my instance of the two
idiots would be a case of this.

====================================================

Richard Phillips

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fled...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> In article <36DA6F83...@mediaone.net>,


> Richard Phillips <rgph...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Richard Phillips wrote:
> >

> > > Allan Matthews wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <36D9FA6A...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > > > says...
> > > > >Allan Matthews wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > > > >> says...

> > > > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> > > > I don't. It's that simple.
> >

> > ==============================================
> > PHilllips


> >
> > I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two
> congenital
> > idiots and their consequent propagation.
>

> Your parents didn't.

==================================================
Phillips

Now that you have shown us what a scintillating wit you are, try to address the
issue. Namely: can circumstances ever arise where the wish of two persons to get
married could become the concern of Society as well as of themselves.

====================================

>
>
> >
> > =============================================================
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it
> proper for
> > > > >> >the State to have a say in such matters.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.
> > > >
> > > > >Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil
> the nazis
> > > > >were.
> > > >
> > > > Nonsense, liar. All I said was "How would you like the State telling you
> > > > who you could and couldn't marry?" Nowhere in that statement is there
> > > > anything about the relative evilness of the Nazis.
> > >
> > > ====================================================
> > > Phillips
> > >

> > > there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind
> the

> > > words. The question "How would you like the State telling you who you could
> and
> > > couldn't marry?" is an obviously rhetorical question to which the
> politically-correct
> > > answer is: of course not. But did the question have no purpose? And wasn't
> that
> > > purpose to demonstrate how evil the nazi state was. Understandably, you had
> to back
> > > off from that when I pointed out that several American states once had
> comparable
> > > laws.
> > > ===============================================
>
> I note that you've avoided answering the question.

=================================
Phillips

What question?
==================

>
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > allan
> > > > --
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > allan_m...@bigfoot.com
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > "Some people just cannot be permitted to have the same rights"
> > > > ---> 'Richard G. Philllips'
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/
> > > > ================================================================
> >
> >
>

yale_f._edeiken

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> Richard Phillips <rgph...@mediaone.net> writes:

> DeppityBob wrote:

> > >> >> PARTIAL TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT 3339-PS
> > >> >>
> > >> >> OFFICIAL GAZETTE FOR THE OCCUPIED DUTCH
> > >> >> TERRITORIES, YEAR 1941
> > >> >>
> > >> >> [Verordnungsblatt fuer die besetzten
> > >> >> Niederlandischen Gebiete]
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Part 8, Page 143.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Order of the Reich Commissioner for the Occupied
> > >> >> Dutch Territories concerning Marriages of Male
> > >> >> Persons of German Nationality in the Occupied
> > >> >> Netherlands Territories, and Related Matters,
> > >> >> February 28, 1941.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> In pursuance of Section 5 of the decrees of the
> > >> >> Fuehrer concerning the exercise of governmental
> > >> >> authority in the Netherlands of May 18, 1940
> > >> >> (RGB1, I, p. 778), I hereby order as follows:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Section 1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> (1) The marriage of a male person of German nationality
> > >> >> shall have validity only if the marriage ceremony is
> > >> >> performed by a German official.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> *******
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Section 4
> > >> >>
> > >> >> (1) Upon the application of a female person of Netherlands
> > >> >> nationality intending to marry a German and requiring for
> > >> >> such marriage, in accordance with Articles 92-98 of the
> > >> >> Netherlands Civil Code, the consent of her parents,
> > >> >> grandparents, guardian, or guardians, the approval of the
> > >> >> Reich Commissioner for the occupied Netherlands territories
> > >> >> (through the Commissioner General for the Administration of
> > >> >> Justice) may grant dispensation form the observance of the
> > >> >> waiting period required in accordance with Articles 91 and
> > >> >> 103 of the Netherlands Civil Code.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> *******
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The Hague, February 28,1941.
> > >> >> Reich Commissioner for the
> > >> >> Occupied Dutch Territories
> > >> >> SEYSS-INQUART
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
> > >> >> Ken McVay, Director.ICQ 7015822. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
> > >> >> Pentium III: Big Brother Inside
> > >> >
> > >> >===============================================
> > >> >Phillips


> > >> >
> > >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> > >> >

> > >> >===========================
> > >>
> > >> No. You are supposed to be educated by this.
> > >>
> > >> Dep
> > >
> > >=========================================
> > >Phillips
> > >
> > >Educated regarding what?
> > >======================
> >
> > What, did you have a memory lapse between the top of the page and the
bottom?
> >
> > Dep

> I repeat: Educated regarding what. If your object is to demonstrate how uniquely
> and unutterably evil the Nazis were, then I beg leave to direct your attention to
> a post of mine in which I pointed out that, up until around the 1950s, several of
> our states had laws forbidding White/Negro marriages. Mr. Matthews was good
> enough to point out that I had in fact understated the case, that in several
> cases these laws persisted BEYOND the 1950s.

> So I repeat: educated regarding what?

The basic birgotry of the Third Reich. Because there were racist laws in
the U.S. -- none of which, by the way invalidated such marriages as did the German
laws -- hardly excuses your nazi pals.

Now are you educated?

--YFE

The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/


yale_f._edeiken

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> Richard Phillips <rgph...@mediaone.net> writes:

> Allan Matthews wrote:

> > In article <36D9FA6A...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > says...
> > >Allan Matthews wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <36D9D5E2...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > >> says...
> > >> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> In article <36D99AA6...@mediaone.net>, rgph...@mediaone.net
> > >> >> says...

> > >> >> >Are we supposed to be horrified at this?
> > >> >>

> > >> >> How would you like the State telling you who you could and couldn't
> > >> >> marry?
> > >>
> > >> Note that Philllllllips the Lying Loser avoids discussion of this point.
> > >>
> > >> >> Oh, never mind. I forgot that you're a delusional, self-loathing Jew and
> > >> >> all-around failure who dreams of being made a second-class citizen in a
> > >> >> Nazi dictatorship.
> > >> >
> > >> >Apparently you DIDN'T forget.
> > >>
> > >> Nope. Unlike you, I have a very good memory.
> > >>
> > >> >As to the State having a say in who shall be permitted to marry whom, it
> > >> >pains me to disturb your politically-correct serenity by pointing out that,

> > >> >prior to the 1950s, many US states had laws forbidding White/Negro
marriages.
> > >>


> > >> Actually, in many places these laws lasted well past the 50's. So, once
> > >> again it's Philllllllips who is demonstrating his ignorance of the
> > >> subject matter at hand.
> > >
> > >thank you for strengthening my point.
> >
> > How does demonstrating your ignornance make your point?
> >
> > >> Also, the fact that American states had such abhorent laws doesn't make
> > >> the Nazi's own version of these laws any less disgusting.
> > >
> > >why do you find them disgusting?
> >
> > You think it's o.k. for the State to tell us who we can and can't marry?
> > I don't. It's that simple.
> >

> > >> >So you can see that it was not only Nazi Germany that believed it proper for
> > >> >the State to have a say in such matters.
> > >>
> > >> I never made such a claim. Take your strawmen someplace else.
> >
> > >Not entirely so. You used it to make a point about how unutterably evil the nazis
> > >were.
> >
> > Nonsense, liar. All I said was "How would you like the State telling you
> > who you could and couldn't marry?" Nowhere in that statement is there
> > anything about the relative evilness of the Nazis.

> there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind the


> words. The question "How would you like the State telling you who you could and
> couldn't marry?" is an obviously rhetorical question to which the politically-correct
> answer is: of course not.

NO! The only reasonable answer is "of course not."

> But did the question have no purpose? And wasn't that
> purpose to demonstrate how evil the nazi state was.

Which it did.

> Understandably, you had to back
> off from that when I pointed out that several American states once had comparable
> laws.

Since they recognized valid marriages and were ruled to be unconstitutional,
He should back off from nothing.

yale_f._edeiken

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> Richard Phillips <rgph...@mediaone.net> writes:

> I take it, then, that you would have no objection to the marriage of two congenital
> idiots and their consequent propagation.

Why not. Most such conditions, such as Down's Syndrome, are not related
to the offspring that would be produced. Victims of DSown's Syndrome can and do
produce normal kids.


> > there are words that are explicitly stated and there are implications behind the
> > words. The question "How would you like the State telling you who you could and
> > couldn't marry?" is an obviously rhetorical question to which the politically-correct

> > answer is: of course not. But did the question have no purpose? And wasn't that
> > purpose to demonstrate how evil the nazi state was. Understandably, you had to

back
> > off from that when I pointed out that several American states once had
comparable
> > laws.

> > ===============================================


> >
> > >
> > >
> > > allan
> > > --
> > >
================================================================
> > > allan_m...@bigfoot.com
> > >
================================================================
> > > "Some people just cannot be permitted to have the same rights"
> > > ---> 'Richard G. Philllips'
> > >
================================================================
> > > http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/
> > >
================================================================
>

--YFE

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Hey Guy`s
A few of ya wanted to see exhaust ports from the TC88 before and after .
The pics are up on a.b.p.m.h. under "TC88 ex ports ported".
The Flow test results are as follows:
Stock flowed 93.4 cfm @ 600 lift.
After porting 111 cfm @ 600 lift.
I kept the port 20 % smaller by volume than
a stock Evo ex port unported.
These heads will meat or exceed 114 cfm @ 600 lift
after the radios valve job.
For comparison:
A "good" STD ex port flows 116 cfm @ 600 lift through a larger hole.

Hope this helps.

Larry Hardy
http://www.performancetechniques.com


Richard Phillips

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When I first saw the thread title, I thought of Rush, as in 2112 (am I too old or
too young?), then of rush as in a hollow grassy reed, then of Rush as in broadway
premier. Tell me it's not about Limbaugh. - S

Daniel Lemonnier wrote:

> >
>
> Rush is a beautifull rose obtained by Louis Lens (from Belgium) and introduced
> by les Pepinieres Louis Lens sa. at Oudenburg in Belgium. This rose is easily
> available in many european countries. Les Pepinieres Louis lens are now
> managed by Rudy Velle. They are still obtaining some very interesting nex
> roses. One of my favorites is 'Tapis Volant'.
> Daniel
> Roses de Normandie


Richard Phillips

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Lynn K Busby wrote:
> =

> Sorry if I'm saying things already said, but just picked up this thread=
=2E
> What to feed kids or anyone with a stomach upset is quite simply NOTHIN=
G
> for 24 hours. Plenty of clear fluids. Babies and children, if they
> will drink it, should be given flat Coca-Cola, contains glucose and
> helps to restore electrolytes. After the first 24 hours, light food
> only, e.g start with dry toast or a biscuit. No fats or dairy products=

> whatsoever.

Yep, no food is right.

Pedialyte=AE electrolyte liquid supplements are nice to have on-hand.
They're also sold in frozen now, and that may feel good for little
sorethroats.

Karen

Richard Phillips

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On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 06:00:41 -0500, sha...@macwhiz.com (Heather
Allen) wrote:

>A lot of the cheddars here in the US are very orange in color. They color
>it with food coloring. (strange, but true).


IIRC, cheesemakers use a coloring called "annato" which is derived
from safflower petals or something like that.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

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On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 00:25:58 GMT, Tony D <hs2...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Shit. 4 days till we head for Daytona and I have
>a slight problem. Started up to go to work this
>AM, headlamp no workee. Figured it was the
>halogen bulb (again...) so I jumped on my wife's
>DB and hauled ass in to work.
>
>So I get home, take the cowling off and pull off
>the rubber boot expecting to find a burned out
>bulb. But noooo. The plastic connector has
>melted on one of the three prongs and has melted a
>small portion of the rubber boot. I pull the boot
>off, scrape the melted rubber and plastic off and
>put the bulb in. I cautiously (fire extinguisher
>at the ready) insert the bulb in, turn the
>ignition switch and viola, the fucking headlamp
>works.
<snip>

Tony,

While I haven't experienced a meltdown like yours, I have had a
problem with the damn connector vibrating off the socket. Nothing a
hot glue gun can't fix tho. In your case, have ya got a big
windshield or fork bag blocking airflow around the headlight? Or
didja just toss in a 100w halogen bulb?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kaslo
StormTrooper #2 KRAO #6 of 10
"To be a great electrician, you need good connections."
j m u r r a y (at) v - w a v e (dot) com

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pro...@spin.net.au wrote:

> I had never had decent salmon until we went to Norway and a friend
> boiled it
> for us, with boiled potatoes and unsweetened mayonaise (another thing
> I
> learnt to eat in Norway), yum yum. Patricia.

Oh...oh...eating fresh fish in Norway with boiled potatoes.
Ahhhh. There is nothing like it. Nothing.

My great aunt was preparing some cod with boiled
potatoes. The fish had already been cleaned and
was sitting in a bowl of water with a little salt.
The fish was still wiggling. Now that's fresh.

My cousin walked into the house with this
absolutely huge bag of shrimp, that they had
boiled on the dock. Oh, it was so wonderful.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Tusen tak!

Jamie


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Debra Fritz wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:43:18 -0500, Monika Adamczyk
> >Just freeze it and before leaving to the airport, pack it into a few
> >layers of newspaper and then into a piece of clothing and keep it in
> >your carry one bag. This should create enough insulation to keep it from
> >softening.
> >
> Ok...sounds like a plan:):) It can join the other things I'll be
> schlepping up there:):)
>
> Debra

You can always grab one of those insulated lunch bags from Eddie Bauer,
something like that, and throw in one of those Blue Ice freezer things.
Or, just put it in a thermos with ice.

nancy

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