Hitler's orders: was Re: Rev: Teachings of Julius Streicher [cockroach]
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From: Annie Alpert <mias...@ccnis.net>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:32:36 -0500
Subject: Hitler's orders: was Re: Rev: Teachings of Julius Streicher
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bs-...@c2.net wrote:
> >Testimony from the "blue series," _Trial of the Major War Criminals
> >before the International Military Tribunal_, vol. 12, pp. 376-377.
> >Cross-examination testimony on April 29th, 1946, of Julius Streicher,
> >defendant.
> >
> >GRIFFITH-JONES: You know, do you not, now, even if you do not
> >believe the full figures, that millions of Jews have been murdered
> >since the beginning of the war? Do you know that? You have heard
> >the evidence, have you not?
> >
> >STREICHER: I believe it...
> >
> >GRIFFITH-JONES: I only wanted to know whether you had heard that
> >evidence. You can answer "yes" or "no," and I presume it will be
> >"yes."
> >
> >STREICHER: Yes, I have to say, evidence for me is only the testament
> >of the Fuehrer. There he states that the mass executions took place
> >upon his orders. That I believe. Now I believe it.
>
> Now this is an outright and outrageous lie of the Jews. Show us this piece
> of paper where Hitler made this statement. Post it to this list.
On this line of thought, here is an interesting document. Hitler signed
an order to begin a euthanasia program on 1.Sept.1939. [According to
page 178 (paperback edition) of The War Against The Jews (by Lucy
Dawidowitcz), the order was signed at the end
of October of 1939, but back dated to September 1, 1939.] The euthanasia
program was the Nazi's early step towards extermination of Jews and
other undesirables:
BEGIN ORDER:
"1.Sept.1939
Reischsleiter Bouhler and Dr. Brandt are commissioned
under responsibility to expand the authority particularly of
designated doctors so that they can euthanize after they become
aware of people who are seized by incurable sickness as determined
by critical review of the state of their illness.
Adolph Hitler
630-PS"
END ORDER
[There are several translations of this order. On page 178 of The War
Against The Jews, the word under is translated as with.]
To understand the enormity of this order, one must examine the
terms of the Euthanasia program. The terms of the Euthanasia
program qualified Jewishness as an "illness" under the terms of the
euthanasia program, seen in the the instruction sheet for the
questionnaire for the euthanasia program (note footnote: item
number 4, below).
The instruction sheet for the euthanasia program questionaire has
been authenticated and used in at least two trials: The Hadamar
Trial in Frankfurt/M, Feb-March 1947 (document number 4 KLS 7/47)
and the Hayde Trial (Werner Hayde, Gerhard Bohne and Hans
Hefelmann, defendants). The document is on pages 210-211 of the
transcript for that case. To locate a copy of the transcript you
can write to the Generalstaatsanwalt, Frankfurt and ask for
bibliograph number Jf17-59(GStA),4VU3-61,Straf, Kammer,Des,
Landgerichts,Limberg-Laan.
BEGIN INSTRUCTION SHEET DOCUMENT
"All patients are to be REPORTED who
1. suffer from the diseases enumerated below and who within the
institution can be occupied not at all or only at the most
mechanical work (picking, etc.)
Schizophrenia,
Epilepsy (indicate if exogenous, war-related or other causes)
Senile disorders,
Therapy-resistant paralysis and other Lues [syphilitic]
diseases,
Retardation from whatever cause,
Encephalitis,
Huntington's chorea and other terminal neurological
conditions;
OR
2. have been continuously in institutions for at least 5 years;
OR
3. are in custody as criminally insane;
OR
4. do not possess German citizenship or are not of German or
related blood (footnoted)
Accompanying footnote: Jew, Jewish Mischling [half-breed] 1st and
2nd class, Negro, Negro Mischling, Gypsy, gypsy Mischling.
4 KLS 7/47"
END DOCUMENT
The proceeding document tells us that the euthanasia program was
a forcible (not volunatry program). We also see that one of the
qualifying "illnesses" was not to be German or related blood with
Jew, Negro and Gypsy being the targets of that designation--in
other words, being black, Jewish, Gypsy or a half-blood was a
qualifying "illness". (This was after the Nuremberg Laws of 1935
removed German citizenship from the German Jews, removing them from
the protection of citizenship).
The order was halted by the Fuhrer on August of 1941 (page 179
The War Against The Jews).
Ken McVay OBC
>From: Annie Alpert <mias...@ccnis.net>
>On this line of thought, here is an interesting document. Hitler signed
>an order to begin a euthanasia program on 1.Sept.1939. [According to
[big snip]
>The order was halted by the Fuhrer on August of 1941 (page 179
>The War Against The Jews).
Yes, and the T4 program was quickly replaced with the secret 14f13
program - which, among other things, was used to murder seriously
wounded German soldiers that the Nazi doctors believed were going
to die anyway. Nothing like "racial loyalty" among your friends,
eh?
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Fafner13
In a previous post relating to Daniel Goldhagen, I promised that I would
supply a translation from one of the Stuermer Verlag's children's books
which Goldhagen refers to in his "Willing Executioners". Mike Curtis
later responded that books such as these influenced Germany's "mass
murderers". Have a read for yourself, gentle reader, and determine for
yourselves whether the following verses incite you to murder:
(To a caricature of a corpulent "Jew")
Here is a Jew with kinky hair
For his own women he doesn't care
He thinks he's being frightfully sly
When he steals a German girl from a German guy
But take a good look at this Jew's face
It doesn't fit in with girls from our race
Beside a German woman, oh my!
He looks like a miserable guy!
So to the Jews it is better said:
Let the German girl go and take your own wench to bed!
Fafner13
In the interests of historical research, I post the next poem from
Stuermer Verlag. Perhaps Nizkor will add this to their Streicher file,
even though the poems themselves were not written by the master baiter.
The Little Maid
From the country little Gretel goes to the city
She's awfully shy and VERY pretty
A little money, she'd like to earn
But she doesn't know which way to turn
In the paper she looks for a job
And finds one with a Jewish slob
His whole family is a pack of rats
Who go by the Jewish name of Katz
The Jew has three daughters sly
And a Jewish wife, oh my, oh my!
All four are lazy as can be
And want everything in life for free
They don't like to clean or sweep
While others work, they're fast asleep
The Jew is kind to neither friend nor neighbor
And uses only German girls for labor
He's rude to them all through the day
Because that is the Jewish way
Now let's look at little Gretel today
She's not the same as yesterday
Her poor little hands are thin and worn
Because of all the work she's borne
The Jew comes home from his synagogue
And treats her worse than a common dog
She's put to work like a lowly slave
And what does she get from the Jewish knave?
"To the goy you may give filth to eat.
But reserve for yourselves the choicest treats
And as a Jew you must never forget
That you never have to repay a debt
For there's nothing holier than a Jew
Because the Talmud says its true"
Gord McFee
Fafner13 wrote:
>
> In a previous post relating to Daniel Goldhagen, I promised that I would
> supply a translation from one of the Stuermer Verlag's children's books
> which Goldhagen refers to in his "Willing Executioners". Mike Curtis
> later responded that books such as these influenced Germany's "mass
> murderers". Have a read for yourself, gentle reader, and determine for
> yourselves whether the following verses incite you to murder:
Mike Curtis said that *children's* books influenced Germany's mass
murderers? Did he also say that they incited them to murder, as your
sentence implies?
> (To a caricature of a corpulent "Jew")
>
> Here is a Jew with kinky hair
> For his own women he doesn't care
> He thinks he's being frightfully sly
> When he steals a German girl from a German guy
> But take a good look at this Jew's face
> It doesn't fit in with girls from our race
> Beside a German woman, oh my!
> He looks like a miserable guy!
> So to the Jews it is better said:
> Let the German girl go and take your own wench to bed!
So, the statement that the Jew is trying to corrupt German girls would
not incite murderous hatred in Germans? What would you say if "German
girl" was replaced by "Blackmore's daughter"?
And what about the ritual murder issue of _Der Stuermer_ of May 1934?
After repeating the ritual murder rubbish, it says: "In secret rites for
thousands of years, the Jew has spilled human blood. And still today
the devil is persecuting us, it is up to you to clean out the hellish
crew". Would that incite some people to murderous violence against
Jews?
And repeat that thousands of times, day after day, and see what you get.
Posted and e-mailed to Mr. Curtis, since mail to fafner13 bounces.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Fafner13
The artwork illustrating this poem shows two men standing next to each
other in contrast: One shows a tall, blond, muscular, bare-chested aryan
type man leaning on a spade, the other, a corpulent Jewish, "Semitic"
type, with typical Jewish pattern balding, carrying a satchel in one hand
and a bag of money in the other. Now, for the poem:
Let's compare the German and Jew
It's relatively easy to do
What a joke - this little kike
You couldn't find two races less alike
Examine them both in this picture here
The Jew looks like a crook, that is clear
The German works hard in fields bright and sunny
While the Jew runs off with his hard earned money
The German is here to stay
But the crafty Jew sneaks away
The German is a man who is proud
Who works and fights and isn't easily cowed
Because he is handsome and has no fear
He is hated above all by the Jew you see here
That he is a Jew, one can easily see
He's the biggest skunk in the whole country
He thinks HE'S the handsomest of the two
And full of hate for folks like you
Note: Translation is for historical research purposes only.
Allison Tait
Fafner13 (fafn...@aol.com) wrote:
: "To the goy you may give filth to eat.
: But reserve for yourselves the choicest treats
: And as a Jew you must never forget
: That you never have to repay a debt
: For there's nothing holier than a Jew
: Because the Talmud says its true"
Really? Then how come the commandment to be kind to the resident alien
"for you yourselves were strangers in the land of Egypt" is repeated _36_
times in the Torah? Why does the Torah say that G-d will surely hear the
cry of the "ger (stranger), the widow and the orphan"?
(You claimed that this is a poem written by a German child, but I will
treat it as your own drivel unless you care to give a source for it)
hingerty
Fafner13 <fafn...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970208084...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> In the interests of historical research, I post the next poem from
> Stuermer Verlag. Perhaps Nizkor will add this to their Streicher file,
> even though the poems themselves were not written by the master baiter.
>
> The Little Maid
>
> From the country little Gretel goes to the city
>...........etc etc etc
Fafner
What is your point?
Im not a revisionist or a zionist. I m not any kind of..ist. And dont
subscribe to any isms. But are you trying to turn people against Germans?
AM I being too simplistic? Too naive?There are no inherently pious or
saintly peoples or inherently evil folks.Ive seen that book...the one
about the Willing Acomplices..I dont really see any point in that book
either. There are a lot of nice people in germany, Israel,Gaza,. Give up
that hate campain. You wont change anybodys mind anyway. Its poison. It
hurts you just as much. Did you do the translations??Admirable. Why dont
you translate soemthing worthwhile?
Take care
walt
rblac...@juno.com
>
> So, the statement that the Jew is trying to corrupt German girls would
> not incite murderous hatred in Germans?
Comment; I honestly think not.
What would you say if "German
> girl" was replaced by "Blackmore's daughter"?
Comment: I personally think these verses are puerile and ridiculous. I
would hope that my daughter would not evince the least bit of interest
in those who might defame or slander her.
>
> And what about the ritual murder issue of _Der Stuermer_ of May 1934?
Comment: That was pulled out of circulation by order of Adolf Hitler only
hours after it appeared at the newsstands. It has received only wide
distribution in English speaking countries, and I do not see anyone
assassinating people over the contents.
> After repeating the ritual murder rubbish, it says: "In secret rites for
> thousands of years, the Jew has spilled human blood. And still today
> the devil is persecuting us, it is up to you to clean out the hellish
> crew". Would that incite some people to murderous violence against
> Jews?
Comment: Do you think EVERY allegation of Jewish ritual murder was invented?
>
> And repeat that thousands of times, day after day, and see what you get.
Comment: An obsession?
As you know, no publication in America has been
successfully sued recently for incitement to murder. This is presupposing that the poems in
question were actually read by those accused of murder and contributed to their state of
mind, which is again stretching things by a long shot. Only mentally unbalanced people would
murder human beings by the thousands, and this would include those who dropped the atomic
bomb on japan. Do you argue that the cartoons drawn by a well-known Jewish caricaturist contributed
to THEIR frame of mind?
rblac...@juno.com
translated for historical research purposes only. If you wish to discuss these
verses in the Bible with me, and I would be happy to do so, please send it to
me in e-mail.
rblac...@juno.com
I am anything BUT anti-German, being of German heritage myself. I translate these verses
for historical interest only. There was an English translation done previously by Liberty bell
Publications, but I felt that the translation missed the "flavor" of the original. I also do other translations
from Italian and Spanish as well. For a more detailed examination of my posts, please look them
up on Deja news if you are so inclined.
Gord McFee
rblac...@juno.com wrote:
>
> >
> > So, the statement that the Jew is trying to corrupt German girls would
> > not incite murderous hatred in Germans?
>
> Comment; I honestly think not.
The results belie your belief, I am sorry to say.
> What would you say if "German
> > girl" was replaced by "Blackmore's daughter"?
>
> Comment: I personally think these verses are puerile and ridiculous. I
> would hope that my daughter would not evince the least bit of interest
> in those who might defame or slander her.
Not the point. What would you say, if you heard day after day, that
your neighbours have as their prime goal in life, to rape your daughter
and thereby pollute your nation's blood?
> > And what about the ritual murder issue of _Der Stuermer_ of May 1934?
>
> Comment: That was pulled out of circulation by order of Adolf Hitler only
> hours after it appeared at the newsstands. It has received only wide
> distribution in English speaking countries, and I do not see anyone
> assassinating people over the contents.
Untrue. Hitler pulled it from circulation after there was an
international outcry, but after ensuring that it had been spread all
over Germany. Breitman, _Julius Streicher_, deals with this, as we have
discussed previously.
> > After repeating the ritual murder rubbish, it says: "In secret rites for
> > thousands of years, the Jew has spilled human blood. And still today
> > the devil is persecuting us, it is up to you to clean out the hellish
> > crew". Would that incite some people to murderous violence against
> > Jews?
>
> Comment: Do you think EVERY allegation of Jewish ritual murder was invented?
None has ever been proved. Please provide the proof (testimonies you
will agree are inadmissible by *your* rules) of one case of ritual
murder.
Doc Tavish
> Fafner13 <fafn...@aol.com> wrote in article
> 19970208084...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> In the interests of historical research, I post the next poem from
> Stuermer Verlag. Perhaps Nizkor will add this to their Streicher file,
> even though the poems themselves were not written by the master baiter.
>
> The Little Maid
>
> From the country little Gretel goes to the city
Oh not this can't be my sweet and delicious little Gretel Ulrich. Please
don't slander one of the sweetest most loving girls on God's Great
Creation- Earth. Gretel has ten cubed or 10 x 10 x 10 for legs,
buttocks, and breasts! Yes Gunther if King Solomon can say it so can I
and remember Gretel is no stranger to this household!
Doc Tavish
> ...........etc etc etc
>
> > Fafner
rblac...@juno.com
> at...@uoguelph.ca (Allison Tait) writes:
Fafner13 (fafn...@aol.com) wrote:
"To the goy you may give filth to eat.
But reserve for yourselves the choicest treats
And as a Jew you must never forget
That you never have to repay a debt
For there's nothing holier than a Jew
Because the Talmud says its true"
Really? Then how come the commandment to be kind to the resident alien
> "for you yourselves were strangers in the land of Egypt" is repeated _36_
times in the Torah? Why does the Torah say that G-d will surely hear the
cry of the "ger (stranger), the widow and the orphan"?
(You claimed that this is a poem written by a German child, but I will
treat it as your own drivel unless you care to give a source for it)
In reply to the above, I will simply state that while what you write about the
verses in the Torah is true, it is also true that the Hebrews, according to
the same source, still owned SLAVES, even though they themselves were
slaves in Egypt. Also, the lines referring to giving filth to eat probably referred
to the Jewish practice of giving away all their food before the Passover to Gentiles,
which they still practice today. As far as never repaying a debt, those lines must
refer to the Jewish Kol Nidre prayer recited at Yom Kippur. As far as the widow and
orphan, you are again correct. However, I feel sorry for those rabbis who went into
a graveyard in Israel about 10 years ago and disinterred an elderly, deceased lady's coffin and threw
it into the street, to the horror of her surviving daughter, an orphan, simply because the
girl's mother had a Jewish father, and not a Jewish mother.
Finally, I did not claim that the verses above were written BY a child. I claimed that
they were written FOR children, by Julius Streicher's Stuermer Verlag, and that I
was translating them for purposes of historical research. I hope these statements
have cleared up any questions you had.
E-mailed and Posted
SOG
Old blackmore the son a whore was rolling in shit on the floor. It was
stick and thick but his favorie trick was to eat some and ask mom for
more.
Fafner13
What a clever boy you are Mark....go ask your mother to change your diaper
now.