We need more like Benjamin Smith.
Andy
being falsely accused of murdering Jews and blacks. He is resting in a
much better place now.
Andy
"Andy" <au...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Benjamin Smith was truly a man of God. He was murdered by the FBI after
> being falsely accused of murdering Jews and blacks. He is resting in a
> much better place now.
Never even heard of him, you forgery making fuckwit.
Andy
Eugene Holman
> Benjamin Smith was truly a man of God. He was murdered by the FBI after
> being falsely accused of murdering Jews and blacks. He is resting in a
> much better place now.
He murdered neither Jews nor blacks. He shot, but did not kill, six Jews on
their way home from synagogue, and he killed one black, who was walking
with his daughter, and one Korean, who was standing in the door of his
church.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/02/multiple.shootings.02/index.html
[BEGIN QUOTE]
July 4 -- White supremacist Benjamin Smith, 21, took his own life as police
closed in. Before his suicide, two people were killed and nine others
wounded during Smith's weekend shooting spree, where he targeted minorities
and Jews in Indiana and Illinois.
[END QUOTE]
Benjamin Smith was a really cool guy:
Source: http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/06/illinois.shooting.01/
[BEGIN QUOTE]
Killed in the weekend shooting spree were Ricky Byrdsong, 43, black former
basketball coach of Northwestern University, and Won-Joon Yoon, 26, a
Korean set to begin pursuing a doctoral degree at Indiana University this
fall.
Yoon's relatives, who arrived in Bloomington on Monday, mourned the loss of
their loved one at a news conference Tuesday. "I lost my only begotten
son," said Shinho Yoon, the victim's father.
Yoon was shot before Sunday services outside the Korean United Methodist
Church. Among those who visited a makeshift memorial outside the church was
Yoon's father, who sat and cried.
At the pile of flowers left in memory of the slain student, one note said:
"I never met Won-Joon Yoon and yet my heart feels the pain of his passing.
... I don't have an answer to this "craziness".
Last November, many people in the Bloomington community responded to the
racist pamphlets Smith distributed in Bloomington. Posted in yards and
windows and waved at protests were signs vowing: Bloomington United: No
hate speech or hate crimes; not in our yards, or in our town or anywhere.
And Charlie Nelms of Indiana University said the violence that police say
Smith committed probably had the opposite effect he was seeking.
"It brings the community closer, because it tells us how vulnerable we all
are," said Nelms.
"Here's a person standing with his children -- gunned down. Here's a man
going to church -- gunned down. It could have been any of us out walking or
jogging or anything."
[END QUOTE]
Regards,
Eugene Holman
RevWhite
it was black on white.
WILKINSBURG, Pa. (AP) - A black man accused of killing three
whites and wounding two others in a shooting rampage was
arraigned Thursday on hate crime charges.
Ronald Taylor had ``anti-white'' writings in his apartment and
singled out whites during the attack, reassuring a black woman
in his path, ``Not you, sister,'' authorities and witnesses said.
``The general tenor was that he wasn't shooting anybody but
whites,'' Allegheny County homicide Lt. John Brennan said
Thursday as authorities tried to put together a portrait of the
suspect.
The third victim, Emil Sanielevici, 20, died Thursday, a day
after Taylor allegedly targeted whites during a rampage that
ended after a hostage standoff at an office building in this
suburban Pittsburgh community.
Taylor was to be arraigned Friday for the University of
Pittsburgh student's death. Earlier Thursday, police charged him
with ethnic intimidation, Pennsylvania's term for a hate crime,
accusing him of setting fire to his apartment and shooting the
men with malicious intent ``toward white males,'' court
documents said.
The FBI also said it has initiated a civil rights investigation
into the shootings.
--
"He said: 'Well, I'm not gonna hurt any black people, I'm gonna
kill all white people'," she said. He then left the apartment,
she added"
Jesse Jackson remains silent to this day.
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RevWhite wrote:
Something tells me that last sentence wasn't in the original article.
-- --Dep
"Always tell the truth. It's the § "Truth is just...truth. You can't
easiest thing to remember." § have opinions about truth."
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birk...@my-deja.com
Clayton Vaughn AKA Joseph Paul Franklin. Information is at
http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/mugshots/episodes/joe_paul_franklin.html
Despite his warped perception of himself as a "serial assassin" who killed
out of political convictions, Franklin was clearly a serial killer. He was
indoctrinated relatively early into hatred, specifically white supremacism
i.e. KKK and Nazism. This ideology did influence his choice of victims and
his declared intention was to start a race war in the U.S. He is credited
with killing at least twenty people, mostly black. He claims he also shot
pornographer Larry Flynt because he was enraged over an article advocating
race-mixing. His method was sniping. It was very difficult to track him
because he moved around in his car not staying in one place and robbing banks
to support his activities. Mr. "Franklin" also bombed a synagogue. Well, one
serial killer running around the country killing blacks was obviously not
going to start a race war but it certainly caused alot of pain for the
families of the dead people and alerted law enforcement. Although Mr.
"Franklin" (he chose that last name for the great American patriot Ben
Franklin) had belonged to white supremacist organizations his extended murder
spree was done alone. In the Court TV program I saw there was no evidence of
him receiving backing or funding from white supremacist organizations. The
program had a short blurp of Morris Dees offering his feedback on Franklin.
Dees stated the white supremacist movement are looking for unstable people
like Franklin to do their dirty work. Basically, Dees saw Franklin as fodder
for the white supremacist agenda. I agree with that assessment but one needs
to ask what comes first-the chicken or the egg. The white supremacist
movement is inherently unstable and would have to be to attract the likes of
Joseph Paul Franklin. Franklin has predictably become a martyr for the white
supremacist movement. WAR put his face on one of their cover issues. But
whatever value Franklin has as a martyr (and he is much less sympathized with
than say Randy Weaver or David Koresh and his followers who burned up) the
white supremacist movement will never accomplish its goals by advocating
random violence and murder i.e. shooting somebody just because they're black,
asian, etc. and on a lone basis i.e. we tell you to kill them but then you go
out and do it yourself and we're not responsible. The only way the white
supremacist movement could ever hope to accomplish its agenda is through real
political means. Hitler knew this well. Remember he learned his lesson with
the failed beerhall putsch. And even once he had power he understood he must
"dispense" with the SA in order to curry the favor of the regular German
army. In the latter case, this involved murdering some of his closest and
early associates such as Roehm. But Hitler couldn't have cared less about
that. He wanted power and he would do anything for it. The SA had a well
deserved reputation as being vulgar hooligans and something of an
embarrassment to the Nazi Party. When Hitler eradicated the SA the German
army and others were placated and thought this a sign of Hitler's prudent
judgment and reasonableness. They didn't see the forest for the trees. Of
course, from the very beginning Hitler and the Nazi Party advocated extreme
violence but Hitler was smart enough to know he could accomplish his goals
through "appearances". He "legally" gained power. He "dealt" with the SA. The
list goes on. Also, Hitler's ascendancy to power would have been much less
likely, if not impossible, if Germany had not been going through the severe
depression and social upheaval. There will always be demagogues but their
favorable medium is in a society which is in severe economic distress and
social upheaval. I would surmise conditions in the United States (and in
extension the world) would have to signifigantly deteriorate economically and
socially before a demagogue could entertain the possibility of gaining power.
The closest thing to that in the U.S. is Pat Buchanan and most analysts think
his chances are non-existent. So I know many of you haters out there are
wishing for the "moment" but it has yet to arrive. Hopefully it never will.
Michael Ragland
_________________________________________
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birk...@my-deja.com
My mistake. Franklin killed whites, Jews, and blacks. In one case he picked
up a 15 year old prostitute and lived with her for awhile before deciding to
murder her. He shot one young black male who was standing next to his father
at Burger King. Sure, there are non-whites who murder whites. I can't think
of a single case in the U.S., however, where a non-white has serial killed as
many victims as Franklin on the basis of racist ideology.
Michael Ragland
The link I provided in this thread allows you to hear Franklin's confessions
of his murders. Franklin is a truly sick and frightening man.
_________________________________________
Compiled from a chronology prepared by the Cincinnati Police Department
August 7, 1977 Madison, Wisconsin Shot and killed a male black and a female
white after an altercation in a shopping mall parking lot. Both shot with a
handgun. Franklin admitted to these homicides February 17, 1984. He was
tried, found guilty and given two life sentences in 1985. October 8, 1977
Richmond Heights, Missouri Shot and killed a male white and wounded two
others as they were leaving a Jewish synagogue. Shooting was with a 30.06
Remington rifle which was left at the scene. The shots were fired from a
grassy area at the top of the synagogue parking lot. Sniper type shooting.
Franklin admitted this offense and was tried, convicted and sentenced to
death by lethal injection. March 6, 1978 Gwinette County, Georgia Shot and
wounded Hustler publisher Larry Flynt and his lawyer Gene Reaves. Shooting
was sniper style. Shot with a .44 caliber rifle. Flynt was shot twice and
Reaves once, both survived. Franklin was indicted but never tried. Franklin
has since admitted to these shootings. July 29, 1978 Chattanooga, Tennessee
Shot and killed a male black and wounded a female white companion. Shooting
was with a 12 gauge pump shotgun. Shooting occurred in a Pizza Hut parking
lot. Both victims were shot once with a 12 gauge pump shotgun. The shooting
was sniper style from tall grass off the parking lot. Franklin admitted this
offense after contacting investigators from jail and confessed. He was
indicted and pled guilty on the eve of his trial to murder. Franklin was
sentenced to two life sentences, one for the murder and one for an unrelated
armed robbery offence that occurred in 1977. July 12, 1979 Doraville,
Georgia Shot and killed a male black manager of Taco Bell. Shooting was
sniper style from an area off the rear parking lot. Weapon used was a 30.30
savage rifle. Victim shot twice. Franklin admitted this offense to Assistant
District Attorney on March 26, 1998. Franklin has been indicted for this
murder, but has not been tried. December 5, 1979 Dekalb County, Georgia
Shot and killed a 15 year old female white prostitute Mercedes Master. Shot
with a shotgun at close range. Franklin picked this victim up hitchhiking,
and actually lived with her for sometime before the murder. Franklin has
admitted this offense to Assistant District Attorney on March 26, 1998.
Franklin has been indicted for murder, but has not been tried. August 18,
1979 Falls Church, Virginia Shot and killed a 27 year old male black who was
seated in a Burger King restaurant. Sniper type shooting. Victim shot with a
30.30 rifle. Detective met with Franklin at his request on March 10, 1997.
Franklin confessed to this murder on videotape. October 21, 1979 Oklahoma
City, Oklahoma Shot and killed a male black and a female white in a shopping
center parking lot. Shooting was sniper style from a distance of 100 yards
away. The male subject was struck 3 times and the female subject once. Five
shots were fired and four took affect. The weapon used was 30.06 rifle.
Franklin has been indicted for these murders, but Oklahoma has not sought to
extradite him for trial. January 11, 1980 Indianapolis, Indiana Shot and
killed a male black 19 years old who was standing in front of a Church's
Fried Chicken window. One shot was fired sniper style, striking the victim
once in the chest, the shot was fired from a distance of approximately 150
yards away. The weapon used was a 30 caliber rifle. Franklin has admitted to
this offense and has been indicted, but Indiana has not sought to extradite
him for trial. January 16, 1980 Indianapolis, Indiana Shot and killed a
male black standing in front of a fast food convenient store with his father.
Sniper type shooting one shot to the chest of the victim. Weapon used was the
same weapon used in the January 11th shooting a .30 caliber rifle. Shot was
fired from a distance of approximately 150 yards through a plate glass
window. Franklin has been indicted for two counts of aggravated murder and is
awaiting trial. June 15, 1980 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Shot and killed a
male black and a female white walking down the street. Sniper type shooting
from a wooded area near a railroad overpass. Male victim shot once the female
was shot twice with .35 caliber rifle. Franklin was seen driving a dark green
Chevy Nova at the time of the shootings. Franklin has admitted these
homicides on April 13, 1997 and has been indicted, but the state of
Pennsylvania will not extradite him. June 25, 1980 Pocahontas County, West
Virginia Picked up two female white hitchhikers and drove to a wooded area of
a park where he shot and killed them. Murders are known as "the Rainbow
Murders" locally. Weapon used was a .44 caliber handgun. Franklin confessed
to these murders on March 1, 1984. However there was another person charged
with these offenses, and subsequently convicted (Jacob Beard). August 20,
1980 Salt Lake City, Utah Shot and killed two male black joggers as they were
leaving a park with two female whites. Both victims were shot multiple times,
seven shots total fired. Sniper type shooting from a distance of
approximately 40 yards. Weapon used was a 30.30 Marlin lever action rifle
Franklin's car was observed leaving the scene a 1975 brown over brown Chevy
Camaro KY license BDC678. Franklin was charged indicted and tried both by the
state on murder charges and federally on civil rights violations. He was
convicted and received two life sentences. Franklin has since admitted to
these offenses on at least two occasions. Statistics Total number of murders
Franklin has been charged with or admitted to date (June 98): 20 Total number
of seriously wounded Franklin has admitted to or been indicted for to date
(June 98): 6 Total number of bank robberies Franklin has admitted to or been
indicted for to date (June 98): 16 Total number of bombings Franklin has been
indicted for or admitted to date (June 98): 2
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> My mistake. Franklin killed whites, Jews, and blacks. In one case he picked
> up a 15 year old prostitute and lived with her for awhile before deciding to
> murder her. He shot one young black male who was standing next to his father
> at Burger King. Sure, there are non-whites who murder whites. I can't think
> of a single case in the U.S., however, where a non-white has serial killed as
> many victims as Franklin on the basis of racist ideology.
It doesn't really matter if whites kill non-whites, because America (the greatest country on the face of the earth, btw) is a white man's country, and non-whites are foreigners and parasites.
It's quite a different thing if a non-white kills a white. It's a matter of a parasite killing its host. When this happens every means available, including avenging the death at a rate of 1,000 to 1 should be taken. Every and any time a non-white kills a white 1,000 non-whites should be strung up on public gallows in the middle of major metropolitan areas and allowed to be picked to death by vultures and crows to show that White America (the greatest country in human history, btw) will not tolerate such behavior.
>
> Michael Ragland
Ragland, what kinda name is that? What do you do, collect used tampax?
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<no....@anon.xg.nu> wrote: I asked myself why should I bother responding to
an anonymous racist who insults humanity, let alone my last name. But I do
want to comment on your feedback. You see all non-whites in America as
parasites. Let me ask you this: Although it is indisputable America was
founded and set up as a white man's country and still is in many ways still a
white man's country i.e. take a look at the faces in Congress, are you
suggesting non-whites have made absolutely zero or insignifigant scientific,
cultural, religious, and political contributions to this society? Remember
"friend" the West Africans did sell their people but the Europeans brought
them over to America to be slaves. Although that was in the past and
African-Americans have long since ceased being slaves to white land owners
and they are integrated more into our society i.e. public schools,
employment, military, etc. But not so amazingly we continue to have ethnic
discord in America. The riots in LA in the aftermath of Rodney King, the
enormously high percentage of blacks in our prison system, the flak over the
Confederate Flag. And there is Louis Farrakhan, Alton Maddox, Al Sharpton,
and Jesse Jackson and many other blacks who continue to paint the white man
as the devil and oppressor. I grow sick of all of it. But the extremist black
movement in the U.S. such as the Nation of Islam and the extremist white
movement actually see eye to eye on many things...don't they? Both see the
Jew as a natural enemy and both have actually met with one another in support
of each others aims. Your justification and description for murdering many
more non-whites should they kill a white to set an example is identical to
Nazism. If they're non-white than they're worthy of being killed anyway. And
if one white is killed then at the very least many more non-whites should be
killed to make an example and as retaliation. It would not matter to you if
these non-whites you killed were babies, old people, etc. Just because they
are non-white is reason enough to kill them. If it were not for law
enforcement and the threat of being caught and imprisoned I have no doubt you
and your comrades would be littering the streets with corpses. America is a
great country and it is also a horrible country. If you look at the history
of America you should see that. I'm sure you do but not the same as I do. In
your mind a multi-ethnic/racial society which can continue to exist is a
pipedream. Have you looked at the demographics? There are many blacks and
hispanics in the U.S. Hispanics are anticipated to outnumber blacks by 2020 I
believe. This is a large country with over 200,000,000 people in it. I don't
trust the census and I believe that number is higher. If you are entertaining
the idea of murdering all these non-whites I think you're work is cut out for
you...more than it was for Hitler. You really are anti-white. There are
possible methods...safe and non-destructive methods of preserving the
ethnic/racial ratio of whites in this country and possibly even increasing it
but instead you harp on the evil Jews and advocate violence and cold blooded
murder of non-whites. Your cause only assists in the further moral
degeneration of this country and the downfall of whites in it. If you're
interested in knowing about the origins of my last name look it up on the
internet.
Michael Ragland
_________________________________________
Andy
"Eugene Holman" <hol...@elo.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
news:holman-ya02408000...@news.helsinki.fi...
> In article <39833694...@yahoo.com>, Andy <au...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Benjamin Smith was truly a man of God. He was murdered by the FBI after
> > being falsely accused of murdering Jews and blacks. He is resting in a
> > much better place now.
>
> He murdered neither Jews nor blacks.
Thanks Eugene. The post you replied to was not from me, but a cheap forgery
from the man with many sock puppets.
Andy
Andy
"No User" <no....@anon.xg.nu> wrote in message
news:4837ad1e3a93f407...@anon.xg.nu...
> In article <8m2vsq$50r$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, birk...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > My mistake. Franklin killed whites, Jews, and blacks. In one case he
picked
> > up a 15 year old prostitute and lived with her for awhile before
deciding to
> > murder her. He shot one young black male who was standing next to his
father
> > at Burger King. Sure, there are non-whites who murder whites. I can't
think
> > of a single case in the U.S., however, where a non-white has serial
killed as
> > many victims as Franklin on the basis of racist ideology.
>
> It doesn't really matter if whites kill non-whites, because America (the
greatest country on the face of the earth, btw) is a white man's country,
and non-whites are foreigners and parasites.
America is a red man's country and the whites are just feral there.
Andy
Freeman
[snip]
> The program had a short blurp of Morris Dees offering his feedback on
>Franklin. Dees stated the white supremacist movement are looking for
>unstable people like Franklin to do their dirty work. Basically, Dees
>saw Franklin as fodder for the white supremacist agenda.
[snip]
This serves as a perfect example of Racism "scholarship." Complete and
utter fucking bullshit. Can the money sucking lackey Dees provide me with
one single shred of conclusive evidence that these organizations are
actually "looking for unstable people." Perhaps no field of scholarship is
more heavily laden with unsubstantiated rumors, innuendo, and utter
presumptuous and unsubstantiated crap than those who research racism. The
Jewish advocacy groups, not surprising, are the coup de grace of rumor and
unsubstantiated innuendo. In any other subject scholars are expected to
prove what they say with actual evidence, but racist scholars can sling mud
and make all kinds of exagerated claims without a single shred of evidence.
We saw an example of another form of racist "scholarship" the other day
from Curious George who said that "Richard Butler was prosecuted for
sedition" ... another typically irresponible example of racism related
"scholarship" from lackeys ... a real scholar and somebody genuinely
interested in the facts would have been forced to punctuate that claim by
saying "but Butler was aquitted of all charges because of a lack of
evidence." I think what needs to be done is somebody needs to go through
the writings of these so-called "scholars" and show how many innaccuracies,
unsunstiated rumors, and utter crap they have published and presented as
fact. I have read countless books and articles on the subject now and I
have been repeatedly aghast at this kind of bullship pseudo-scholarship.
One shred ... give me one shred of evidence that these groups deliberately
recruit unstable people! What fucking nonsense, not surprising coming from
a dork like Dees.
Freeman
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"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and
also the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the
oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the
spirit of spiritless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
- Karl Marx
RevWhite
Jews? Even Matt Hale isn't that far in denial.
Praying for anonymous scum like Andy,
Pat Blakely
RevWhite
federal pigs shot him and are calling it a suicide. But if you
want to be techincal ok. He shot a negroid and he shot a asian
and I stand corrected.
Jeffrey G. Brown
<no....@anon.xg.nu> wrote:
>It's quite a different thing if a non-white kills a white. It's a matter of a
>parasite killing its host. When this happens every means available, including
>avenging the death at a rate of 1,000 to 1 should be taken. Every and any time
>a non-white kills a white 1,000 non-whites should be strung up on public
>gallows in the middle of major metropolitan areas and allowed to be picked to
>death by vultures and crows to show that White America (the greatest country
>in human history, btw) will not tolerate such behavior.
Uh huh. And this is going to be done by the likes of you --- a terrified
little man so afraid of taking responsibility for his own words that he is
forced to use an anonymous remailer? It is to laugh...
Frankly, no one gives a damn what you will or will not 'tolerate', insect.
In the great scheme of things, you simply don't matter.
JGB
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Jeffrey G. Brown jg_b...@my-deja.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
Eugene Holman
<pat_blake...@excite.com.invalid> wrote:
> Is Eugene actually claiming Ben Smith didn't kill any blacks or
> Jews? Even Matt Hale isn't that far in denial.
Read my posting more carefully. I'm in facts, only facts. Ben Smith killed
three people, specifically:
1. Ricky Byrdsong, 43, black former basketball coach of Northwestern
University, 2. Won-Joon Yoon, 26, a Korean set to begin pursuing a
doctoral degree at Indiana University this fall.
3. Himself.
He also injured nine others, at least six of them Jews.
Thus:
1. He shot and killed one (1) black, not blacks.
2. He shot and injured, but did not kill, several Jews.
3. He shot and killed one (1) Korean.
4. He shot and killed himself.
It's correct to say that before Ben Smith shot and killed himself he
killed and injured people, or that Ben Smith shot and killed a black and a
Korean, and shot, but did not kill, Jews.
It's incorrect to say, as you are implying, that Ben Smith killed "blacks
and Jews", because he killed exactly one black and no Jews. The only way
in which your implication could be correct would be if Ben Smith had
himself been a black Jew, which he obviously wasn't.
Yours in pedantic precision,
Eugene Holman
Eugene Holman
<pat_blake...@excite.com.invalid> wrote:
> I don't buy the fact he shot himself. I bet the police or
> federal pigs shot him and are calling it a suicide.
That would have been a neat trick. However, Smith was apprehended by the
police with self-inflicted gun wounds in the van he had carjacked after he
had lost control and driven it into a ditch.
Source: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NMSmithBenjamin.htm
[BEGIN QUOTE]
On Friday, 7/02/99 Smith began his shooting spree. In West Rogers Park, a
predominantly Jewish area, he fired from a car and wounded six Orthodox
Jews. He then continued cruising until he spotted and killed former
Northwestern University coach Ricky Byrdsong, a black man, as he jogged
with his kids not far from his home. He also fired shots at two Asian
Americans in a car in Northbrook. More shootings followed in local
counties. On Saturday a black man was injured by gunshot and two more
black men reported gunshots. A black minister was injured outside his
Decatur church. On Sunday, an Asian student was injured and another Asian
man was shot to death outside the Korean church of Bloomington, IN.
Shortly after 9:00 PM on Sunday, police began a low-speed pursuit of the
van that Smith had carjacked at gunpoint. The chase ended near Salem, IL
when the van went into a ditch and flew up an embankment and police
apprehended Smith, covered with blood. He had three self-inflicted gunshot
wounds and died shortly after at the local hospital.
[END QUOTE]
> But if you
> want to be techincal ok. He shot a negroid and he shot a asian
> and I stand corrected.
>
Thanks for conceding that. However, it's not a matter of being
'technical', it's a matter of being factually correct.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
Eugene Holman
Source: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NMSmithBenjamin.htm
'technical', it's a matter of being factually correct. You still haven't
got it right:
Benjamin Smith shot and killed a Negro[id], an Asian, and himself; he shot
and injured, but did not kill, several other people, six of them Jews, one
of them black, and three of them Asians.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
RevWhite
that the police/FBI lie on occasion. Don't buy everything they
feed you Eugene.
Andy
"RevWhite" <pat_blake...@excite.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> So they say they were self-inflicted. Did it ever occur to you
> that the police/FBI lie on occasion. Don't buy everything they
> feed you Eugene.
Any evidence they might be lying?
Andy
Eugene Holman
<pat_blake...@excite.com.invalid> wrote:
> So they say they were self-inflicted. Did it ever occur to you
> that the police/FBI lie on occasion. Don't buy everything they
> feed you Eugene.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
I understand the need to be critical, but this event happened in full
public view. Smith, who had been the target in a low-speed, O. J.
Simpson-like chase, lost control of the van he ahd carjacked, drove into a
ditch, and then up an embankment. The van was damaged enough that it could
not continue. When the police opened the door, there was Smith, bleeding
from several self-inflicted gunshot wounds. This was filmed publicly in
real time.
Now, you can argue that the newsfilming of the chase, accident, and door
opening were all fabrications, but I'd need just a little supporting
evidence before I would take such an argument seriously.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
Hilary Ostrov
>So they say they were self-inflicted. Did it ever occur to you
>that the police/FBI lie on occasion. Don't buy everything they
>feed you Eugene.
I, for one, would certainly take the word of the police/FBI over the
word of a known liar and forger - and his sockpuppets - such as
Ellis/Blakely/Kalvatis/Brimstone etc. Any day.
hro
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Hilary Ostrov
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Freeman
<222eosgrmoi8i6n68...@4ax.com>:
>On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:43:18 -0700, in
><12e0673c...@usw-ex0101-006.remarq.com>, RevWhite
><pat_blake...@excite.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>So they say they were self-inflicted. Did it ever occur to you
>>that the police/FBI lie on occasion. Don't buy everything they
>>feed you Eugene.
>
>I, for one, would certainly take the word of the police/FBI over the
>word of a known liar and forger - and his sockpuppets - such as
>Ellis/Blakely/Kalvatis/Brimstone etc. Any day.
>
>hro
>=====================
>Hilary Ostrov
A well known liar? Oh, you are talking about the FBI then are you? Yes, yes
Hilary, you are correct, the FBI are well known liars ... and it has been
documented extensively. Just look at the lies and coverups in the Ruby
Ridge incident alone ... yes the FBI are known liars Hilary ... friends of
yours? Yes, they probably are friends of yours ... knowing who your other
friends are ... namely, the dirtbags that rip off their own people ... yes,
I am surprised, if Ellis is indeed a liar, that you don't like him for this
very reason.
Dr Curious George PhD
"We saw an example of another form of racist "scholarship" the other day
from Curious George who said that "Richard Butler was prosecuted for
sedition"
Um...he *was* prosecuted for sedition.
" ... another typically irresponible example of racism"
How is it racist to say that Butler was tried for treason? It is a statement of
fact. How can a fact be racist. The sky is blue; is that a racist statement
also?
"related
"scholarship" from lackeys ... "
Careful, Joe: I'm a Jew, not a lackey. I have G--d McFee for that.
"a real scholar and somebody genuinely
interested in the facts would have been forced to punctuate that claim by
saying "but Butler was aquitted of all charges because of a lack of
evidence."
Except that's not actually the case.
He was acquitted because of reasonable doubt. I know a bit about the Fort Smith
trial from someone who attended it (former Aryan Nations), and he claims that
the Feds botched the trial by trying to introduce false evidence. I believe it
centered around their trying to prove that the Aryan Nations made OK City type
bombs (based on *The Turner Diaries*) using a specific formula that was
impossible to actually use. Thus the reasonable doubt. Thus the acquittal. Does
this make Butler innocent? No. There was *plenty* of incriminating evidence
against Butler et al. If you like, we can discuss it. Or you can look at James
Aho's *Idaho Christian Patriotism* and get a better feel for the evidence
entered against Butler et al.
You'll also note that the verdict isn't "not guilty"; it's "not guilty as
charged."
"I think what needs to be done is somebody needs to go through
the writings of these so-called "scholars" and show how many innaccuracies,
unsunstiated rumors, and utter crap they have published and presented as
fact. I have read countless books and articles on the subject now and I
have been repeatedly aghast at this kind of bullship pseudo-scholarship."
As opposed to real scholars like you, right?
Back to the books, Joey!
--CG
"All of the great accomplishments of Western civilization were undertaken by
mammals. Whereas, a disproportionate number of the leaders and agitators of the
Bolshevik revolution were lizards."
--The Mad Revisionist, "Primate Pride Worldwide"
Steve Wolk
RevWhite wrote:
>
> Is Eugene actually claiming Ben Smith didn't kill any blacks or
> Jews? Even Matt Hale isn't that far in denial.
>
> Praying for anonymous scum like Andy,
> Pat Blakely
Better ease up on those stupid pills, Don. Looks to me like you're
OD'ing.
Steve
Andy
"Dr Curious George PhD" <curiousg...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000801185646...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
> fact. How can a fact be racist.
You skyist bastard!
=D
Andy