Where are the revisionists who aren't neo-Nazis or anti-Semites?

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Allan Matthews

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Aug 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/10/00
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Gee, you'd think that after many months of posting this at least one
revisionist who isn't a neo-Nazi or anti-Semite would have come forward
and said "Here I am!"

But, no. It appears that there just aren't any such revisionists around.

Based on their past posting history, the few bozos who have bothered to
claim that they aren't neo-Nazis or anti-Semites were, upon examination
of their claims, found to be clearly lying. Of course, given the general
behavior of revisionists, this lack of honesty isn't surprising in the
least.

However, just in case some revisionist 'scholars' have missed my
question to date, here it is again:

Where are the revisionists who aren't neo-Nazis or anti-Semites?

It's a fair question. Afterall, how can revisionsists hope to be taken
seriously if they all have such apparent biases, agendas and axes to
grind?

So, then, if Holocaust revisionism is an intellectually honest endevour,
where are the revisionists who aren't neo-Nazis or anti-Semites?

allan
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"The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism
is to make National Socialism an acceptable
political alternative again."
- some two-bit neo-Nazi
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http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/

mountai...@my-deja.com

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In article <MPG.13fcc0c79...@news.ne.mediaone.net>,

Have you read the post on what historians say about Holocaust
revisionism?The American Historical Assn calls it "academic fraud".The
Anti-Defamation League calls it "Anti-Semitism masquerading as
history".The leader for years in "revisionism" was the IHR,which was
sued by a Holocaust survivor.The Holocaust survivor was awarded
$90,000.The judge in the case called the gassings at Auschwitz "a
fact". That is now part of the Federal District Court case history.

> allan
> --
> allan_m...@bigfoot.com
> ============================================
> "The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism
> is to make National Socialism an acceptable
> political alternative again."
> - some two-bit neo-Nazi
> ============================================
> http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/
>


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Kim Savij

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Aug 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/11/00
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I've posted this question a few times, sometimes I get ignored, on other
occasions they call me a troll, but they never answer

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When she comes she moans her mothers name, is this
the spirit of the age ?


Freeman

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Aug 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/11/00
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Kim_...@hotmail.com (Kim Savij) wrote in
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This post has been responded to before as well; those who "deny" or rather
question the details of the holocaust are always automatically branded
anti-Semites; who would want that? That's sort of like a King saying "Feel
free to question my wisdom" and then when somebody does the King instantly
yells "off with his head!" Then when the King says "Feel free to question
my wisdom" and nobody comes forward the King says "See! Nobody questions my
wisdom!" Like duh ... of course nobody does, they want to keep their heads.

Get a grip.

Freeman
____

"he who slings mud, looses ground."

- unknown

Dr Hyman Kaplan PhD

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Aug 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/11/00
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Joe:

Do you have questions regarding the historicity of the Holocaust?

--CG


"All of the great accomplishments of Western civilization were undertaken by
mammals. Whereas, a disproportionate number of the leaders and agitators of the
Bolshevik revolution were lizards."
--The Mad Revisionist, "Primate Pride Worldwide"

William Daffer

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Aug 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/11/00
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freedomo...@my-deja.com (Freeman) writes:


On the contrary, those that 'merely question' the holocaust
invariably show themselves to be anti-semites. You are a case in
point.

William
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Freeman

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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whda...@earthlink.net (William Daffer) wrote in
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Well there is a hole in your fucking logic Daffer boy, because never,
nowhere, and at no time have I EVER questioned the details of the
holocaust. In fact, I have stated numerous times that I have seen no
evidence that convinces me that the standard version is wrong; although
honestly I could give a crap whether it is right or wrong.

You are right about me serving as an example though, no matter how many
times I say all people are equal and have an equal right to life and
happiness, and no matter how many times I say that my bone of contention
is with ELITE Jewish advocacy groups who have trampled on my rights and are
DIRECTLY responsible for implementation of BOOK BANNING and anti-Free
speech laws in my country; no matter how much I make this clear, shitheads
continue to suggest that my animosity towards ELITE Jewish groups should be
interpreted as animosity towards all Jews, which is just plain old bullshit
perpetuated by idiots like you who arbitrarily decide who qualifies as an
anti-Semite. You sir are obfuscating fraud and offend me by defending these
groups that have resulted in books be banned in my country and thus have
trampled on my right to academic and intellectual freedom. THAT offends me.
If you think THAT is anti-Semitic, then you are an asshole and I don't give
a fuck what you think. When those fucking creeps REVERSE the damage they
have dome to freedom and liberty in my country, I will start saying good
things about them. Until then they (Jewish advocacy and them that support
their activities) can kiss my fucking ass!

Freeman
_____

"Let us suppose, therefore, that the government is
entirely at one with the people, and never thinks of exerting any power of
coercion unless in agreement with what it conceives to be their voice. But
I deny the right of the people to exercise such coercion, either by
themselves or by their government. The power itself is illegitimate. The
best government has no more title to it than the worst. It is as noxious,
or more noxious, when exerted in accordance with public opinion, than when
in opposition to it. If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and
only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no
more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power,
would be justified in silencing mankind."

- John Stuart Mill

Gord McFee

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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In <8F8DBA4...@24.2.10.79>, on Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:02:39 GMT,
freedomo...@my-deja.com (Freeman) wrote:

> whda...@earthlink.net (William Daffer) wrote in
> <m3n1ij2...@localhost.localdomain>:
>
> >freedomo...@my-deja.com (Freeman) writes:
> >
> >> Kim_...@hotmail.com (Kim Savij) wrote in
> >> <b4Ok5.25788$V_2.1...@news1.cableinet.net>:
> >>
> >> >I've posted this question a few times, sometimes I get ignored, on
> >> >other occasions they call me a troll, but they never answer
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >When she comes she moans her mothers name, is this
> >> >the spirit of the age ?
> >> >
> >> This post has been responded to before as well; those who "deny" or
> >> rather question the details of the holocaust are always automatically
> >> branded anti-Semites; who would want that? That's sort of like a King
> >> saying "Feel free to question my wisdom" and then when somebody does
> >> the King instantly yells "off with his head!" Then when the King says
> >> "Feel free to question my wisdom" and nobody comes forward the King
> >> says "See! Nobody questions my wisdom!" Like duh ... of course nobody
> >> does, they want to keep their heads.
> >>
> >> Get a grip.
> >

> > On the contrary, those that 'merely question' the holocaust
> > invariably show themselves to be anti-semites. You are a case in
> > point.
> >
> >William
>
> Well there is a hole in your fucking logic Daffer boy, because never,
> nowhere, and at no time have I EVER questioned the details of the
> holocaust. In fact, I have stated numerous times that I have seen no
> evidence that convinces me that the standard version is wrong; although
> honestly I could give a crap whether it is right or wrong.

Why do you not give a crap? If you are so offended by homosexual rape
in prisons, should you not be offended by the cold blooded murder of 6
million people?

[...]

--
Gord McFee
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http://www.holocaust-history.org

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Jeffrey G. Brown

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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In article <8F8DBA4...@24.2.10.79>, freedomo...@my-deja.com
(Joke Freeman) wrote:

>...fucking...

> [...deletia...]

>...crap...

> [...deletia...]

>...shitheads...

> [...deletia...]

>...bullshit ...

> [...deletia...]

>...asshole...

> [...deletia...]

>...fuck...

> [...deletia...]

>...fucking...

> [...deletia...]

>...kiss my fucking ass!

The intellectual adventure of the last century slithers onward.

JGB

=======================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jg_b...@my-deja.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997

Freeman

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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jg_b...@my-deja.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote in <jg_brown-
11080023...@cvg-165-102-163.cinci.rr.com>:

>In article <8F8DBA4...@24.2.10.79>, freedomo...@my-deja.com
>(Joke Freeman) wrote:
>
>>...fucking...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...crap...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...shitheads...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...bullshit ...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...asshole...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...fuck...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...fucking...
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>...kiss my fucking ass!
>
>The intellectual adventure of the last century slithers onward.
>
>JGB
>

Hey!!!! Get yer own damned analogy, I already spoke for the snake
analogies. Damned plagiarist!

Freeman
_____

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction. "

Blaise Pascal

Tremaine

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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There is evidence that you ARE anti-Jewish though, Freeman, quite apart
from the fact that you seem to have revisionist opinions.

Recall your anti-circumcision post, for instance. Placed in a forum
comprised largely of Jewish posters, this could certainly be construed
as an attack on Jews (given that circumcision is a fundamental part of
the Jewish religion).

Tremaine


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Steve Wolk

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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"Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:

> In article <8F8DBA4...@24.2.10.79>, freedomo...@my-deja.com
> (Joke Freeman) wrote:
>
> >...fucking...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...crap...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...shitheads...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...bullshit ...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...asshole...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...fuck...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...fucking...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >...kiss my fucking ass!
>
> The intellectual adventure of the last century slithers onward.
>
> JGB

TAOILHTON!

Steve

William Daffer

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freedomo...@my-deja.com (Freeman) writes:

> whda...@earthlink.net (William Daffer) wrote in
> <m3n1ij2...@localhost.localdomain>:
>
> >freedomo...@my-deja.com (Freeman) writes:
> >
> >> Kim_...@hotmail.com (Kim Savij) wrote in
> >> <b4Ok5.25788$V_2.1...@news1.cableinet.net>:
> >>
> >> >I've posted this question a few times, sometimes I get ignored, on
> >> >other occasions they call me a troll, but they never answer
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >When she comes she moans her mothers name, is this
> >> >the spirit of the age ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> This post has been responded to before as well; those who "deny" or
> >> rather question the details of the holocaust are always automatically
> >> branded anti-Semites; who would want that? That's sort of like a King
> >> saying "Feel free to question my wisdom" and then when somebody does
> >> the King instantly yells "off with his head!" Then when the King says
> >> "Feel free to question my wisdom" and nobody comes forward the King
> >> says "See! Nobody questions my wisdom!" Like duh ... of course nobody
> >> does, they want to keep their heads.
> >>
> >> Get a grip.
> >>

> >> Freeman


> >
> >
> > On the contrary, those that 'merely question' the holocaust
> > invariably show themselves to be anti-semites. You are a case in
> > point.
> >
> >William
>
> Well there is a hole in your fucking logic Daffer boy, because never,
> nowhere, and at no time have I EVER questioned the details of the
> holocaust.

Which raises the question of why your on a newsgroup which discusses
the Holocaust, now doesn't it? I raised this question in another
post, but you haven't answered.

I have a hard time trying to determine your purpose here. Is it
merely to irritate? Is it an ongoing demonstration of irrelevant and
adolescent tempertantrums? Why are you here, Joe Freedom?

> In fact, I have stated numerous times that I have seen no
> evidence that convinces me that the standard version is wrong; although
> honestly I could give a crap whether it is right or wrong.
>

Then why are you here?

In anycase, all you've shown is that the mapping of holocaust denier
to anti-semite isn't invertible. Big surprise there!

If you want, I'll retrack the accusation that you are a denier. But
really, it doesn't matter much since if you aren't a denier and you
aren't interested in the history of the Holocaust, which is the
subject of this newsgroup, then you are irrelevant.

<snip ranting>

RevWhite

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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Tremaine,

Anyone that dares questions any portions of the holocaust is
automatically considered an anti-semite.


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>
> So, then, if Holocaust revisionism is an intellectually honest endevour,
> where are the revisionists who aren't neo-Nazis or anti-Semites?

Here is something Ezra Pound said over the Italian radio during
WWII:

"I ask my compatriots of my own age to note that the very high
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is a silent point, a basicly false assumption."

I would also note the high percentage of liberal posts that contain a
joker.

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