For Moshe Schorr and Friends -- non-Jews and Heretics <<
Tavish
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Teachings Rebbe Nachman and his disciple Reb Nosson. From the recent
anthology published by R. Avraham Yitzchak Mermelstein:
1) There are wild and savage animals who are the scholars of the
natural sciences who want to show with their knowledge that everything
is according to laws of nature, and they ruin many of our people; many
Jews have fallen into these ideas. THESE SOULS ARE LIKE TRAPPED
BIRDS. THEREFORE, ANYONE WHO CARES ABOUT HIS SOUL MUST
ESCAPE FROM THEM, AND NOT ALLOW HIS SOUL TO BE RUINED BY
THESE IDEAS THAT ARE VERY POWERFUL.
(Kitzur Likutei Moharan, Part 2, #4, sec. 8)
2) The primary part of loving one's fellow Jew are Jews who follow the
Torah, since it is a mitzvah to hate the total evildoers [who seek to
uproot Judaism] who have no good in them at all, just like it is
written, the goal of hatred is hating them. The main fact of the
commandment of loving your fellow is your fellow in mitzvot.
(Likutei Halachos, Birchas HaRe'iya, Halacha 4, #4)
3) On the sect that studies secular sciences and only study the
written Torah, and who ignore the Talmud are like the Karaites, to
whomever is familiar with their ideas. All their studies are evil, and
their commentaries are evil. They are based on the ideas of the famous
heretics like Aristotle and his associates, may their memories be
obliterated. One must stay away from these groups and their books to
the furthest extent possible, even further than from other sinners.
These types are referred to in the phrase Anyone who goes in there
never comes out. They will never attain true life, as is known to all
those familiar with Judaism and the enormous evil of those sects. May
G-d protect us from them and their followers.
(Likutei Halachos, Hilchos Shabbos, Halacha 5, #13)
4) Therefore King David opened his book of Psalms with the phrase,
Happy is he who does not follow the advice of the wicked, because THIS
IS THE MAIN POINT OF THE TORAH, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE ADVICE
OF THE WICKED WHO ARE THE MAIN PART OF THE POISON OF THE
SERPENT that was brought into the world by the sin of Adam, and thus
negatively affecting truth and faith which are the main part of the Torah.
(Likutei Halachos, Hilchos Giluach, Halacha 4, #14)
5) And the fourth shell [kelippa] is the intermediary one (kelippas
noga) between holiness and the profane. This is the source of the
animal soul and is the aspect of the evil sciences of the world. Some
of them call themselves "hassidim" and talk about idiotic ideas that
deter a person from Hashem and his Torah and Tzadikkim. They are the
aspect of kelipas noga mixed with good and bad. They have alot of good
because they don't give up the Torah entirely, and some are partially
kosher and speak words of truth. HOWEVER, MIXED WITH THEM IS
ALSO ALOT OF EVIL, THAT IS, THEIR OWN IDEAS WHICH THEY THINK
IS REAL KNOWLEDGE. In fact they are just idiocy.
They cause alot of damage and prevent a person from drawing close to
the Tzadikkim of Truth and their disciples who bring out G-dly wisdom.
Actually these types are more dangerous than any non-Jew or outright
heretic could be. Most believing Jews would know not to accept the
ideas of these latter groups. However, they don't stay away from the
ideas of this type, the partially kosher people who are actually even
more dangerous than the others. They cause a great deal of damage with
their ideas and mockery when they mock the ways of truth and
innocence.
Our holy books teach us that the main test and clarification in the
world is of kellipas noga, which is mixed with good and evil. Because
they have some good in them, there is a greater ability to for evil to
draw sustenance from them.
(Likutei Halachos, Halacha Nezikin, Halacha 4, #28)
6) The main thing is to educate one's children to follow the path of
holiness as we received from our forefathers, just as we are warned in
the verses of Shma, And teach them to your children, etc .and thus
keep them away from the evil sects that arose in our generation to
uproot, G-d forbid, Jewish youth from the foundations of our holy
religion.
(Likutei Halachos, Halacha Priya Urivya, Halacha 5, #3)
7) One must strongly keep away from the values of the masses that are
mostly evil and degenerate values, and how much moreso the values of
the Wicked who opposed the Truth. One must stay away from them even
more, because all the degeneracy and ruination comes from them. Their
values are the aspect of the ideas of the Original Serpent, and when
one accepts their values, they are injecting into themselves the
poison in the aspect of marriage [nisu'in] of kelippa as it is
written, "The serpent hasi'ani".
(Kitsur Likutei Moharan, #7, (10) )
8) When a person prays in a minyan where there are wicked people, they
may throw him down spiritually. The technique to protect oneself from
them is to raise one's hand up during prayers.
(Sefer HaMidos, Falling, Part 1, #12)
10) Whoever looks favorably upon an evildoer is also called an
evildoer.
(Sefer HaMidos, Staying Away from Evildoers, Part 1, #6)
11) A person should keep away from a kiss of an Evildoer, because
through the kiss there is a link between them even after death.
(Sefer Hamidos, ibid., Part 2, #3)
12) Stay away from Evildoers lest you be caught in their punishment.
(Sefer Hamidos, ibid., Part 1, #2)
13) G-d will send salvation to whomever stays away from Evildoers.
(ibid., #14)
14) Association with the Wicked is injurious to service of G-d.
(ibid., #18)
~~~End of DejaCom Archive~~~
Did you all catch on to this?
"2) The primary part of loving one's fellow Jew are Jews who follow the
Torah, since it is a mitzvah to hate the total evildoers [who seek to
uproot Judaism] who have no good in them at all, just like it is
written, the goal of hatred is hating them. The main fact of the
commandment of loving your fellow is your fellow in mitzvot."
The only fellow a Jew has is a Jew. Non-jews are NOT included as
in "fellow man." Notice the non-Jew and heretic have the same status
of distaste in the eyes of this teaching: "... these types are more dangerous
than any non-Jew or outright heretic could be.." of course they are speaking
of their own errant ones BUT the non-Jew and heretic have equal status.
Take special notice of this command on the proper way to hate: "... it is a
mitzvah to hate the total evildoers [who seek to uproot Judaism] who have
no good in them at all, just like it is written, the goal of hatred is hating them.
The main fact of the commandment of loving your fellow is your fellow in mitzvot."
Would not this mitzvah apply to Christians and their missionaries? They are
afterall seeking to convert or turn the Jews away from his Judaism! Notice
the "main fact of the commandment of loving your fellow is your fellow in
mitzvot." would not apply to a non-Jew but to a Jew only!
I presented the above as just another lesson in showing what Jews teach
about the non-Jewish world.
Need I say more?
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Folks it's early Thanksgiving morning here in Bavaria and I am trying
out an overseas satellite link up to my home computer. If you all read
this- I say Happy Thanksgiving from Germany! Doc Tavish
Yale F. Edeiken
Defendant Tavish <sonn...@flash.net> wrote in message
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The usual malignant garbage snipped.
> I presented the above as just another lesson in showing what Jews teach
> about the non-Jewish world.
Liar. You presented it so that you could distort the meaning and ltell
more lies about Jews.
> Need I say more?
Yes. You need to explain to everyone whyy you forge other people's
names to posts.
?
For a refutation of Tavish's lies about the Talmud and Judaism consult:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
> people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
>
> tim gueguen 101867
Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
certain requirements.
For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
"Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
I'm told it's awesome.
-- Andrew Skolnick
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine them:
'THE NAZIS ARE COMING!' 'NAZIS ARE EVERYWHERE!' 'BEWARE! THE NAZIS WILL GET
YOU!' 'THERE IS A NAZI BEHIND EVERY TREE!' 'THERE IS A NAZI UNDER EVERY
CARPET!' 'CHECK THE TOILET BEFORE YOU USE IT! A NAZI COULD BE HIDING THERE
WAITING TO BITE YOUR BOTTOM!'
David
Andrew A. Skolnick
As is usual, David Cuddles Michael's rant is nonsense. The
only contact with Nazis I ever had has been with about of
half of the dozen or so Neo-Nazis who invaded sci.skeptic
about three months ago. They clearly are trying to take over
sci.skeptic as one of their bases of operation on the
Internet.
Thankfully, Nazism -- like polio -- is now a rare disease,
and one rarely encounters immoral hate mongers like Cuddles
and his fellow Neo-Nazi thugs.
It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
"beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Sara Salzman
Skolnick" <asko...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com> wrote:
>tim gueguen wrote:
>>
>> Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
>> people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
>>
>> tim gueguen 101867
>
>Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
>like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
>like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
>certain requirements.
>
>For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
>beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
>kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
>more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
>torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
>earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
>rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
>"Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
>of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
>
>Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
>highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
>tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
>I'm told it's awesome.
>
Andrew:
You missed one:
To earn a braver Tattoo, you must shoot at a minimum of 5 children in a
day care center. Hitting an adult, though, is points-off.
Sara
--
"I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center
post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
Jim Hightower
Andrew A. Skolnick
Unless the adult is a Jew. Then they count toward the
Ubermensch tattoo. Also, you have to shoot at AND HIT 5
children. Misses don't count.
BTW, if you shoot and kill one of the "Mud people" in font
of his young child -- as a Nazi did here in the Chicago area
several months ago -- you get points that count towards both
the Ubermensch and Braver tattoos.
You sure have to admire these Nazis. They're real Supermen.
You know it takes real guts to gun down a 5-year-old child
who is armed only with a pencil box.
-- Andrew Skolnick
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> >
> > > tim gueguen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
> > > > people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
> > > >
> > > > tim gueguen 101867
> > >
> > > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > certain requirements.
> > >
> > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > >
> > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > I'm told it's awesome.
> > >
> > > -- Andrew Skolnick
> >
> > I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine them:
> > 'THE NAZIS ARE COMING!' 'NAZIS ARE EVERYWHERE!' 'BEWARE! THE NAZIS WILL GET
> > YOU!' 'THERE IS A NAZI BEHIND EVERY TREE!' 'THERE IS A NAZI UNDER EVERY
> > CARPET!' 'CHECK THE TOILET BEFORE YOU USE IT! A NAZI COULD BE HIDING THERE
> > WAITING TO BITE YOUR BOTTOM!'
> >
> > David
>
> As is usual, David Cuddles Michael's rant is nonsense. The
> only contact with Nazis I ever had has been with about of
> half of the dozen or so Neo-Nazis who invaded sci.skeptic
> about three months ago. They clearly are trying to take over
> sci.skeptic as one of their bases of operation on the
> Internet.
>
> Thankfully, Nazism -- like polio -- is now a rare disease,
> and one rarely encounters immoral hate mongers like Cuddles
> and his fellow Neo-Nazi thugs.
>
Yet one quarter of humanity is enslaved by communism. The forces that sustained and
financed communism during its murderous years on this earth are still firmly in
place. How strange that Mr Skolnick is so fixated on a force that, in his words,
'is now a rare disease' and yet remains so indifferent to far greater evils.
>
> It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>
And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several drawbacks.
But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants to lie
and smear.
>
> Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
>
No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who does not
subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any consideration
of truth.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
David
Joel Rosenberg
"David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> >
> > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >
>
> And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
drawbacks.
What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
in the foot.
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> > In article <383EAB1A...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com>, "Andrew A.
> > Skolnick" <asko...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > >tim gueguen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
> > >> people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
> > >>
> > >> tim gueguen 101867
> > >
> > >Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > >like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > >like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > >certain requirements.
> > >
> > >For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > >beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > >kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > >more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > >torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > >earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > >rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > >"Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > >of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > >
> > >Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > >highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > >tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > >I'm told it's awesome.
> > >
> >
> > Andrew:
> >
> > You missed one:
> >
> > To earn a braver Tattoo, you must shoot at a minimum of 5 children in a
> > day care center. Hitting an adult, though, is points-off.
> >
> > Sara
>
> Unless the adult is a Jew. Then they count toward the
> Ubermensch tattoo. Also, you have to shoot at AND HIT 5
> children. Misses don't count.
>
> BTW, if you shoot and kill one of the "Mud people" in font
> of his young child -- as a Nazi did here in the Chicago area
> several months ago -- you get points that count towards both
> the Ubermensch and Braver tattoos.
>
> You sure have to admire these Nazis. They're real Supermen.
> You know it takes real guts to gun down a 5-year-old child
> who is armed only with a pencil box.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
As a matter of interest, Mr Skolnick, what is your reaction to the words Deir
Yassein?
david
David E Michael
Joel Rosenberg wrote:
What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
as an arrogant thug.
David
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > tim gueguen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
> > > > > people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
> > > > >
> > > > > tim gueguen 101867
> > > >
> > > > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > > certain requirements.
> > > >
> > > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > > >
> > > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > > I'm told it's awesome.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine them:
> > > 'THE NAZIS ARE COMING!' 'NAZIS ARE EVERYWHERE!' 'BEWARE! THE NAZIS WILL GET
> > > YOU!' 'THERE IS A NAZI BEHIND EVERY TREE!' 'THERE IS A NAZI UNDER EVERY
> > > CARPET!' 'CHECK THE TOILET BEFORE YOU USE IT! A NAZI COULD BE HIDING THERE
> > > WAITING TO BITE YOUR BOTTOM!'
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > As is usual, David Cuddles Michael's rant is nonsense. The
> > only contact with Nazis I ever had has been with about of
> > half of the dozen or so Neo-Nazis who invaded sci.skeptic
> > about three months ago. They clearly are trying to take over
> > sci.skeptic as one of their bases of operation on the
> > Internet.
> >
> > Thankfully, Nazism -- like polio -- is now a rare disease,
> > and one rarely encounters immoral hate mongers like Cuddles
> > and his fellow Neo-Nazi thugs.
> >
>
> Yet one quarter of humanity is enslaved by communism. The forces that sustained and
> financed communism during its murderous years on this earth are still firmly in
> place. How strange that Mr Skolnick is so fixated on a force that, in his words,
> 'is now a rare disease' and yet remains so indifferent to far greater evils.
Despicable lies. Had Herr Cuddles done his homework, he
would have learned that I spent half a year in 1996 teaching
American journalism at a Chinese university in Shanghai. It
was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
report it. My background shows that I am anything but
indifferent to oppression in China. Unlike this Nazi, I am
willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
computer screen spewing hate.
Want to know why I worry about the small number of wannabee
Hitlers posting here? Because Nazi bastards who walk, talk,
and think like Cuddles Michael have been fire bombing homes,
churches, and synagogues. They've been shooting down men,
women, and children just because they're "Joos" and "Mud
people." Just a dozen miles from my home, one of his Nazi
comrades gunned down and killed a former university football
coach in front of his young child. He gunned down five Jews
leaving a synagogue. A few days later he shot and killed an
Asian student. Yes, these Neo-Nazi vermin are small in
number. But they are very dangerous vermin. Like the Nazis
who followed Hitler, today's Nazis see murder as an
important tool for "social reform."
In one of Cuddles Michael's screeds posted here before, you
can see how he defends mass political murders of Nazis. He
"completely supports" the Nazis' shooting political enemies
and "stringing" them "up from lampposts." And then urges us
to forget the "stories about corpses for a moment."
Like hell, will we ever let this monster forget!
> > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >
>
> And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several drawbacks.
> But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants to lie
> and smear.
Oh, yeah, the drawbacks Cuddles sees: Hitler's philosophy
wasn't coherent enough, he says. Hitler wasn't pragmatic
enough, he says. Hitler was a lousy military planer, which
is why he lost the most important war of all times, he says.
The result is that David Cuddles Michael has had to suffer
living in a democratic United Kingdom, which he must share
with Joos and Mud People. For that, Cuddles will never
forgive his fallen Fuehrer.
> > Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> > in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
> >
>
> No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who does not
> subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any consideration
> of truth.
No, you lying Nazi. My comments have been directed against
about a half a dozen racist scum who have invaded
sci.skeptic and are trying to make the newsgroup a mouth
organ for National Socialism and anti-Semetic hate and lies.
The resistance you have met here from both Jews and non-Jews
from around the world has been ferocious. You'll have to
kill us all if you hope to succeed in taking over
sci.skeptic. And you know what happened to the last Nazis
who tried to subjugate the world.
Die Gedanken sind frei!
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > >
> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > >
> >
> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> drawbacks.
>
> in the foot.
He's like deputy sheriff Barney Fife of Mayberry. He suffers
from "premature pistol discharge."
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > >
> > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > drawbacks.
> >
> > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> > in the foot.
>
> as an arrogant thug.
>
> David
Don't look down, Cuddles, I think your foot's bleeding
again.
-Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
culture.
When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
-- Andrew Skolnick
John Morris
1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
>Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
>> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
>> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
>> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
>> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>> > >
>> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
>> drawbacks.
>> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
>> in the foot.
>What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
>as an arrogant thug.
Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
must be condemned unreservedly.
And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
For the full article, see:
http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
suit.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
--
"Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
Deacon
>
> tim gueguen wrote:
> >
> > Beats me why you bother posting this crap. No one takes the ramblings of
> > people with as little of a grasp on reality as you seriously.
> >
> > tim gueguen 101867
>
> Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> certain requirements.
>
> For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
Why do you feel that it takes 3 Jewish women to equal one Jewish man ?
And one civil rights protester to equal to 2.5 gays. Kind of
Cheauvistic for an advanced group. Ain't it ? Deacon
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
Now I just wonder why the communist authorities there permitted that!!!
> It
> was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
> students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
> speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
> report it.
Andrew, you are not interested in the truth. You are interested in fighting Nazis, be
they real or imaginary, and you do not hesitate to lie and smear to that end.
> My background shows that I am anything but
> indifferent to oppression in China.
So why did the communist authorities let you in?
> Unlike this Nazi, I am
> willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
> computer screen spewing hate.
>
It is refreshing to hear that you do something apart from hiding behind a computer
spewing hate.
Unfortunately it seems that you have been assisting the most murderous regime on earth,
that of the Red Chinese, to spew hate instead.
>
> Want to know why I worry about the small number of wannabee
> Hitlers posting here? Because Nazi bastards who walk, talk,
> and think like Cuddles Michael have been fire bombing homes,
> churches, and synagogues.
A statement that shows your interest in 'truth' to be non existent. I have never fire
bombed, nor advocated, homes, churches or synagogues, and should I discover the
identities of anyone who had been behaving in such a way I would not hesitate to pass the
information on to the police. But that doesn't interest our 'truth-seeking' journalist.
Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's eyes to the truth to
be utter poppycock.
> They've been shooting down men,
> women, and children just because they're "Joos" and "Mud
> people." Just a dozen miles from my home, one of his Nazi
> comrades gunned down and killed a former university football
> coach in front of his young child. He gunned down five Jews
> leaving a synagogue. A few days later he shot and killed an
> Asian student.
Really? And what evidence do you, Mr Journalist, have that this person was a 'Nazi
comrade', or indeed any comrade, of mine?
The truth is that you have none. I have had no connections whatsoever with the individual
concerned. But the truth does not interest Liar Skolnick. Not unless it is Maoist truth
at any rate.
> Yes, these Neo-Nazi vermin are small in
> number. But they are very dangerous vermin. Like the Nazis
> who followed Hitler, today's Nazis see murder as an
> important tool for "social reform."
>
So do your pals in communist China, Liar Skolnick.
> In one of Cuddles Michael's screeds posted here before, you
> can see how he defends mass political murders of Nazis. He
> "completely supports" the Nazis' shooting political enemies
> and "stringing" them "up from lampposts." And then urges us
> to forget the "stories about corpses for a moment."
>
It seems that you were prepared to forget the corpses of the Cultural Revolution for long
enough to accept a lucrative post in China, you filthy little hypocrite.
> Like hell, will we ever let this monster forget!
>
No, but every time you post your lies, I'll be there to refute them and show you up for
the dirty little liar that you are, comrade.
>
> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > >
> >
> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several drawbacks.
> > But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants to lie
> > and smear.
>
> Oh, yeah, the drawbacks Cuddles sees: Hitler's philosophy
> wasn't coherent enough, he says. Hitler wasn't pragmatic
> enough, he says. Hitler was a lousy military planer, which
> is why he lost the most important war of all times, he says.
>
> The result is that David Cuddles Michael has had to suffer
> living in a democratic United Kingdom, which he must share
> with Joos and Mud People. For that, Cuddles will never
> forgive his fallen Fuehrer.
>
Well since you're publishing your wild fantasies as to what you would like my political
views to be, perhaps you could also enlighten the world on my views on economics? What's
that? You don't know them? Well, hell . . . don't let that stop ya -- you invent
everything else!
And you're a journalist? Are you one of those journalists who write about invasions by
UFOs?
>
> > > Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> > > in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
> > >
> >
> > No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who does not
> > subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any consideration
> > of truth.
>
> No, you lying Nazi. My comments have been directed against
> about a half a dozen racist scum who have invaded
> sci.skeptic and are trying to make the newsgroup a mouth
> organ for National Socialism and anti-Semetic hate and lies.
>
And the interesting irony is that whereas you doubtless intend to damage them, your
crazy, hate-filled rantings make even the dottiest ones seem quite sensible in
comparison.
>
> The resistance you have met here from both Jews and non-Jews
> from around the world has been ferocious.
It has been lukewarm. There's a hardcore group of about 12 people. Given that this is a
medium that reaches millions upon millions of people, that is not a great achievement
Comrade Skolnick. But once again, why let the truth stand in the way of a good story, eh?
> You'll have to
> kill us all if you hope to succeed in taking over
> sci.skeptic.
Good god, man. You are, with respect, a total fruitcake.
> And you know what happened to the last Nazis
> who tried to subjugate the world.
>
Yup. They're currently sitting in the White House and the Kremlin.
>
> Die Gedanken sind frei!
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > > drawbacks.
> > >
> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> > > in the foot.
> >
> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> > as an arrogant thug.
> >
> > David
>
> Don't look down, Cuddles, I think your foot's bleeding
> again.
>
> -Andrew Skolnick
No, Comrade Skolnick. The blood is dripping from the hands of characters like you.
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > > drawbacks.
> > >
> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> > > in the foot.
> >
> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> > as an arrogant thug.
> >
> > David
>
> Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
>
> David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> culture.
>
> When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
David
David E Michael
John Morris wrote:
> In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>
> >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
>
> >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >> > >
>
> >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> >> drawbacks.
>
> >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> >> in the foot.
>
> >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> >as an arrogant thug.
>
> Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
>
> Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
>
> Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> must be condemned unreservedly.
>
> And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
>
> For the full article, see:
>
> http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
>
> Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> suit.
>
> --
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
> --
> "Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause me much
financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty tactics?
David
Yale F. Edeiken
David E Michael, a nazi, <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:383EB306...@btinternet.com...
> > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > certain requirements.
> >
> > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> >
> > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > I'm told it's awesome.
> I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine
them:
The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War II.
"There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
Not much doubt about your leanings.
Andrew A. Skolnick
You're obviously no more of a China scholar than you a
scholar on American law. Guffaw.
> > It
> > was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
> > students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
> > speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
> > report it.
>
> Andrew, you are not interested in the truth. You are interested in fighting Nazis, be
> they real or imaginary, and you do not hesitate to lie and smear to that end.
You are projecting. Your record of lies and hatemongering
are well documented in this newsgroup and in other areas of
the Internet.
> > My background shows that I am anything but
> > indifferent to oppression in China.
>
> So why did the communist authorities let you in?
Hint: China has opened their doors to a great many Western
influences that they once feared. Deng Xiao Ping told
China's leaders that they've got to risk having flies by
opening the window for fresh air.
You know nothing about what's happening in China. You know
nothing about an awful lot.
> > Unlike this Nazi, I am
> > willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
> > computer screen spewing hate.
> >
>
> It is refreshing to hear that you do something apart from hiding behind a computer
> spewing hate.
>
> Unfortunately it seems that you have been assisting the most murderous regime on earth,
> that of the Red Chinese, to spew hate instead.
You're a lying jackass. I went to China to teach the
principles of a free press. And you have the nerve to call
that spewing hate.
> > Want to know why I worry about the small number of wannabee
> > Hitlers posting here? Because Nazi bastards who walk, talk,
> > and think like Cuddles Michael have been fire bombing homes,
> > churches, and synagogues.
>
> A statement that shows your interest in 'truth' to be non existent. I have never fire
> bombed, nor advocated, homes, churches or synagogues,
I never said you did. You're too much of a coward to bloody
your own hands. You rather incite others to do the vulgar
stuff for you.
> and should I discover the
> identities of anyone who had been behaving in such a way I would not hesitate to pass the
> information on to the police.
No one better hold their breath. I'd bet dollars to
doughnuts that you've known some Nazi thugs who have
committed crimes and you kept your mouth shut. After all,
Nazis have a "code of honor." As you said, in the good old
days, Nazis took care of internal dissension with the help
of a "well placed bullet."
> But that doesn't interest our 'truth-seeking' journalist.
> Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's eyes to the truth to
> be utter poppycock.
The account of my experiences teaching American journalism
in China were published in ScienceWriters, the newsletter of
the National Association of Science Writers. Anyone wanting
to read the article can go to
http://nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/goldfish.htm
Lying Nazi scum are not invited.
> > They've been shooting down men,
> > women, and children just because they're "Joos" and "Mud
> > people." Just a dozen miles from my home, one of his Nazi
> > comrades gunned down and killed a former university football
> > coach in front of his young child. He gunned down five Jews
> > leaving a synagogue. A few days later he shot and killed an
> > Asian student.
>
> Really? And what evidence do you, Mr Journalist, have that this person was a 'Nazi
> comrade', or indeed any comrade, of mine?
He spewed the same anti-Semitic hate and Nazi lies that you
spew. He backed up his rhetoric with a gun. You use a
computer mouse. That's the only difference I see.
> The truth is that you have none. I have had no connections whatsoever with the individual
> concerned. But the truth does not interest Liar Skolnick. Not unless it is Maoist truth
> at any rate.
Nazis like you have virtually canonized this murderous
bastard. They're calling him a "hero" and a "martyr" to
their cause.
Notice that Herr Cuddles doesn't denounce the cowardly
murderer. He just denies that there's any proof linking him
to the Nazi killer (a.k.a. "Great Man," "Martyr to His
People," etc.).
Herr Cuddles, you goose-step like that Nazi duck and you
quack like that Nazi duck. You may not shoot down unarmed
people like that Nazi duck, but you're hardly less evil; for
you spew the hate that spurs on such maniacs to commit
violent acts.
> > Yes, these Neo-Nazi vermin are small in
> > number. But they are very dangerous vermin. Like the Nazis
> > who followed Hitler, today's Nazis see murder as an
> > important tool for "social reform."
> >
>
> So do your pals in communist China, Liar Skolnick.
You're projecting. You're the one who champions the cause of
political murderers. My record is clear, clean, and very
public.
> > In one of Cuddles Michael's screeds posted here before, you
> > can see how he defends mass political murders of Nazis. He
> > "completely supports" the Nazis' shooting political enemies
> > and "stringing" them "up from lampposts." And then urges us
> > to forget the "stories about corpses for a moment."
> >
>
> It seems that you were prepared to forget the corpses of the Cultural Revolution for long
> enough to accept a lucrative post in China, you filthy little hypocrite.
Don't you ever run out of lies? I took a half-a-year leave
from my "lucrative" job to go to China to teach. In
addition, I spent about $6000 in various expenses to go. The
salary and travel expenses I received from the Chinese
university did not even cover my round-trip air fare.
I did this to help open China's doors to western ideas and
ideals. I inspired some students, angered others. One of my
students went on to get a Masters degree in communication
from Stanford University and he is now in the United States
working for a major Hong Kong newspaper. Cuddles, you're not
morally fit enough to lick that young man's shoes. You much
rather snuff out the candle and curse the darkness. You're a
Nazi right down to your bones.
> > Like hell, will we ever let this monster forget!
> >
>
> No, but every time you post your lies, I'll be there to refute them and show you up for
> the dirty little liar that you are, comrade.
>
> >
> > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several drawbacks.
> > > But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants to lie
> > > and smear.
> >
> > Oh, yeah, the drawbacks Cuddles sees: Hitler's philosophy
> > wasn't coherent enough, he says. Hitler wasn't pragmatic
> > enough, he says. Hitler was a lousy military planer, which
> > is why he lost the most important war of all times, he says.
> >
> > The result is that David Cuddles Michael has had to suffer
> > living in a democratic United Kingdom, which he must share
> > with Joos and Mud People. For that, Cuddles will never
> > forgive his fallen Fuehrer.
> >
>
> Well since you're publishing your wild fantasies as to what you would like my political
> views to be, perhaps you could also enlighten the world on my views on economics? What's
> that? You don't know them? Well, hell . . . don't let that stop ya -- you invent
> everything else!
I have no interest in your "views on economics."
> And you're a journalist? Are you one of those journalists who write about invasions by
> UFOs?
I've written for many of the world's most respected
publications, but I doubt you've read any of them. None of
them have either swastikas in their mastheads or photos of
bound, naked women.
> > > > Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> > > > in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who does not
> > > subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any consideration
> > > of truth.
> >
> > No, you lying Nazi. My comments have been directed against
> > about a half a dozen racist scum who have invaded
> > sci.skeptic and are trying to make the newsgroup a mouth
> > organ for National Socialism and anti-Semetic hate and lies.
> > The resistance you have met here from both Jews and non-Jews
> > from around the world has been ferocious.
>
> It has been lukewarm. There's a hardcore group of about 12 people. Given that this is a
> medium that reaches millions upon millions of people, that is not a great achievement
> Comrade Skolnick. But once again, why let the truth stand in the way of a good story, eh?
The first victim of Nazi violence is not a man or woman, Jew
or gentile. It is the truth.
> > You'll have to
> > kill us all if you hope to succeed in taking over
> > sci.skeptic.
>
> Good god, man. You are, with respect, a total fruitcake.
>
> > And you know what happened to the last Nazis
> > who tried to subjugate the world.
> >
>
> Yup. They're currently sitting in the White House and the Kremlin.
David Cuddles Michael sure has a good grasp of world
history, doesn't he? He equates Bill Clinton with madmen
like Adolph Hitler, Himmler, Goering, Goebbels, Heydrich,
Eichman, Hess, and Mengele.
Anybody else here interested in Cuddles' view of economics?
I thought not.
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> David E Michael, a nazi, <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:383EB306...@btinternet.com...
>
> > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > certain requirements.
> > >
> > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > >
> > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > I'm told it's awesome.
>
> them:
>
> "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
>
> Not much doubt about your leanings.
>
> --YFE
Hey Yale, where did Cuddles post that statement? Had he
posted that 50 years ago, it could have gotten him hanged as
a traitor. He's still a traitor -- we just can't hang him
for it.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Yale F. Edeiken
David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:383EE743...@btinternet.com...
> Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
several
> > drawbacks.
> >
> > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
yourself
> > in the foot.
>
> What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
yourself
> as an arrogant thug.
Odd that Lord Haw-Haw a consistent liar, coward, and bigot who attempts
to justify the murder of millions. Such fraulent charges fromn him are par
for the course. He had no scruples about labelling an American soldier a
"war criminal" or falsely stating that I employ thugs in the U.K. to
vanadalize his house.
Your "beaustiful dream," Lord Haw-Haw was a nightmare.
?
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > > > drawbacks.
> > > >
> > > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> > > > in the foot.
> > >
> > > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> > > as an arrogant thug.
> > >
> >
> > Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
> >
> > David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> > us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> > his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> > involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> > Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> > blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> > poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> > culture.
> >
> > When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> > more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
> >
> > -- Andrew Skolnick
>
> The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
>
> David
Right, Cuddles. And Rev. Jesse Jackson is the Imperial
Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
You sure hate having your own hate-filled crackpot
statements publicly displayed.
Too damn bad. "Die Gedanken sind frei."
-- Andrew Skolnick
Yale F. Edeiken
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
several
> > > > drawbacks.
> > > >
> > > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
yourself
> > > > in the foot.
> > >
> > > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
yourself
> > > as an arrogant thug.
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > again.
> >
> > -Andrew Skolnick
>
> No, Comrade Skolnick. The blood is dripping from the hands of characters
like you.
Whiose blood would that be, Lord Haw-Haw?
Be very specific.
And you will be answering that question under oath.
Yale F. Edeiken
> > > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > > >
> > > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > > I'm told it's awesome.
> > > >
> > > > -- Andrew Skolnick
> > >
> > > I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine
them:
> > > 'THE NAZIS ARE COMING!' 'NAZIS ARE EVERYWHERE!' 'BEWARE! THE NAZIS
WILL GET
> > > YOU!' 'THERE IS A NAZI BEHIND EVERY TREE!' 'THERE IS A NAZI UNDER
EVERY
> > > CARPET!' 'CHECK THE TOILET BEFORE YOU USE IT! A NAZI COULD BE HIDING
THERE
> > > WAITING TO BITE YOUR BOTTOM!'
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > As is usual, David Cuddles Michael's rant is nonsense. The
> > only contact with Nazis I ever had has been with about of
> > half of the dozen or so Neo-Nazis who invaded sci.skeptic
> > about three months ago. They clearly are trying to take over
> > sci.skeptic as one of their bases of operation on the
> > Internet.
> >
> > Thankfully, Nazism -- like polio -- is now a rare disease,
> > and one rarely encounters immoral hate mongers like Cuddles
> > and his fellow Neo-Nazi thugs.
> Yet one quarter of humanity is enslaved by communism.
The usual red herring from Lord Haw-Haw.
He neglects to point out that the forces that defeated the nazis are
also defeating the Communists.
His party just made them stronger.
> The forces that sustained and
> financed communism during its murderous years on this earth are still
firmly in
> place.
And their philosophy is exactly the same as the one Lord Haw-Haw
espouses -- the forces of tyranny and totalitarianism.
> How strange that Mr Skolnick is so fixated on a force that, in his words,
> 'is now a rare disease' and yet remains so indifferent to far greater
evils.
Wrong. Unlike the deluded fools and moral lepers like Lord Haw-Haw who
consdier national socialism "a wonderful dream" he recognizes that tyranny
is tyranny no matter what mask it wears.
> > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
drawbacks.
> But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants
to lie
> and smear.
That is becasue that part of the message is an outright designed to
erect a veneer of respectibility on on a vile nigtmare that took over
Germany.
I am reminded of the words of Niklas Frank whose father, Hans Frank, was
hanged at Nuremberg. "The snapping of your [Hans Frank's] neck spared me
from having a totally screwed up life. You certainly would have poisoned my
brain with all your drivel, the fate of the silent majority of my generan,
who did not have the good fortune of having their fathers hung."
"That's why I'm happy to be your son. How poor by comparison are all
the other millions of children whose fathers spouted the same garbage filled
with deceit and cowardice, with bloodthirtiness and inhumanity, but were not
so prominent as you."
"In the Shadow of the Reich" Page 21
He knew quite well the monstrousity you attempt to justify.
> > Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> > in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
> No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who
does not
> subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any
consideration
> of truth.
That's a lie. They are directed at the mostrous people who try to
rewrite history to justify their bigotry.
You are a a moral leper, Lord Haw-Haw. And that is what he is
protesting.
Yale F. Edeiken
> John Morris wrote:
>
> > In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> > 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> >
> > >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > >> > >
> >
> > >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
several
> > >> drawbacks.
> >
> > >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
yourself
> > >> in the foot.
> >
> > >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
yourself
> > >as an arrogant thug.
> >
> > Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
> >
> > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> >
> > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > must be condemned unreservedly.
> >
> > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> >
> > For the full article, see:
> >
> > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> >
> > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > suit.
> > "Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
> Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause me
much
> financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty
tactics?
But although you can cause me no fiancial damage and have been
consistently exposed as an uscrupulous liar who tactics are are so covered
with filth that they resemble a pile of shit.
Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so special.
Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp as a
dishrag.
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> >
> >
Let's not forget that Cudles' beloved National Socialist
Party made a pact with Stalin and then cooperated with that
monster to carve up and enslave Poland.
> > The forces that sustained and
> > financed communism during its murderous years on this earth are still
> firmly in
> > place.
>
> And their philosophy is exactly the same as the one Lord Haw-Haw
> espouses -- the forces of tyranny and totalitarianism.
>
> > How strange that Mr Skolnick is so fixated on a force that, in his words,
> > 'is now a rare disease' and yet remains so indifferent to far greater
> evils.
>
> Wrong. Unlike the deluded fools and moral lepers like Lord Haw-Haw who
> consdier national socialism "a wonderful dream" he recognizes that tyranny
> is tyranny no matter what mask it wears.
You've got that right. And I'm going to be in the faces of
tyrants no matter what banner they grasp in their murderous
hands.
> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>
> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> drawbacks.
No, Yale. There is a cure for leprosy today. There's no
known cure for the disease that inflicts David Cuddles
Michael. The only effective treatment for his disease is
ostracism.
-- Andrew Skolnick
steve wolk
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > > > drawbacks.
> > > >
> > > > in the foot.
> > >
> > > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> > > as an arrogant thug.
> > >
> >
> > Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
> >
> > David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> > us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> > his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> > involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> > Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> > blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> > poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> > culture.
> >
> > When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> > more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
> >
> > -- Andrew Skolnick
>
> The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
>
> David
No, the biggest Nazi in this NG is a certain Englishman who has fled
from the Himmler challenge.
Steve
Yale F. Edeiken
Another smear from the mendacious Lord Haw-Haw.
> > It
> > was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
> > students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
> > speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
> > report it.
> Andrew, you are not interested in the truth.
Another lying smear from Lord Haw-Haw.
> You are interested in fighting Nazis, be
> they real or imaginary, and you do not hesitate to lie and smear to that
end.
The one who has constantly lied and, as shown here, smeared people is
Lord Haw-Haw.
> > My background shows that I am anything but
> > indifferent to oppression in China.
> So why did the communist authorities let you in?
Since your thought processes are identical to theirs, why don't you
explain.
> > Unlike this Nazi, I am
> > willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
> > computer screen spewing hate.
> It is refreshing to hear that you do something apart from hiding behind a
computer
> spewing hate.
Of course, Lord Haw-Haw does not.
> Unfortunately it seems that you have been assisting the most murderous
regime on earth,
> that of the Red Chinese, to spew hate instead.
By teaching about free speech?
Another mindless. meaningless smear from Lord Haw-Haw.
> > Want to know why I worry about the small number of wannabee
> > Hitlers posting here? Because Nazi bastards who walk, talk,
> > and think like Cuddles Michael have been fire bombing homes,
> > churches, and synagogues.
> A statement that shows your interest in 'truth' to be non existent. I have
never fire
> bombed, nor advocated, homes, churches or synagogues,
That's a lie. When some right wingers in the UK blew up a pub your
response was to ask how esle could they be heard?
>and should I discover the
> identities of anyone who had been behaving in such a way I would not
hesitate to pass the
> information on to the police. But that doesn't interest our
'truth-seeking' journalist.
> Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's eyes
to the truth to
> be utter poppycock.
What is p[oppyvck ais your continual lies.
You are a pompous gasbag, Lord Haw-Haw.
?
--YFE
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Sara Salzman
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
>> David E Michael wrote:
>> >
>> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>> >
>> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
>> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
>> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
>> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
several
>> > > drawbacks.
>> > >
>> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
yourself
>> > > in the foot.
>> >
>> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
yourself
>> > as an arrogant thug.
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
>>
>> David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
>> us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
>> his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
>> involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
>> Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
>> blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
>> poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
>> culture.
>>
>> When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
>> more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
>>
>> -- Andrew Skolnick
>
>The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
>
>David
David:
This is certainly one of the more idiotic things you've ever posted here.
Your own anti-Semitism is well-documented. Simply because Mr. Skolnick
disagrees with you doesn't make him a Nazi. If anything, he is merely
guilty of definition of character.
Sara
--
"I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center
post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
Jim Hightower
William Daffer
> John Morris wrote:
>
> > In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> > 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> >
> > >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > >> > >
> >
> > >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> > >> drawbacks.
> >
> > >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> > >> in the foot.
> >
> > >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> > >as an arrogant thug.
> >
> > Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
> >
> > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> >
> > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > must be condemned unreservedly.
> >
> > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> >
> > For the full article, see:
> >
> > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> >
> > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > suit.
> >
> > --
> > John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> > at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
> > --
> > "Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
>
>
> Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly
> cause me much financial damage and that merely show your own
> dishonesty and dirty tactics?
>
> David
>
Only to you, David.
whd
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx.
Pgroff
>
>The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
>
>David
David E. Michael having married within the last few days has now taken
leave of his new wife to do what?? why to post nothing but childish
insults on the Internet. Does your new wife share your vision of a
"wonderful dream" and "forget about the bodies"?? One can only wonder
what antisemitic nothings you has whispered late in the evening. Such
romance.
David E Michael
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> David E Michael, a nazi, <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:383EB306...@btinternet.com...
>
> > > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > certain requirements.
> > >
> > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > >
> > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > I'm told it's awesome.
>
> > I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine
> them:
>
> The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War II.
> "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
>
> Not much doubt about your leanings.
>
> --YFE
Nah, I just think that a Churchill-Hitler alliance would have been a lot better
(including better for the Jews) than a Churchill-Stalin one.
Fifteen days have passed since you threatened to sue me. I have still not heard
a squeak from any court, sir. Why not?
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> Hey Yale, where did Cuddles post that statement? Had he
> posted that 50 years ago, it could have gotten him hanged as
> a traitor. He's still a traitor -- we just can't hang him
> for it.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
Do you believe that I should be hanged, Mr Skolnick? Yes or no?
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
No, but I am a close observer of communism and the Chinese Communist party would not have
permitted you into the country unless they were pretty certain that you would pose no danger to
them. Hell, man, they even arrest people for supporting Falun Gong, so they're hardly likely to
invite Western journalists who are likely to start converting their citizens!
>
> > > It
> > > was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
> > > students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
> > > speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
> > > report it.
> >
> > Andrew, you are not interested in the truth. You are interested in fighting Nazis, be
> > they real or imaginary, and you do not hesitate to lie and smear to that end.
>
> You are projecting. Your record of lies and hatemongering
> are well documented in this newsgroup and in other areas of
> the Internet.
>
Yet you are unable to provide examples of either my supposed lies or my supposed hatemongering.
How strange!
The problem with you is that you see Nazis behind every bush.
>
>
> > > My background shows that I am anything but
> > > indifferent to oppression in China.
> >
> > So why did the communist authorities let you in?
>
> Hint: China has opened their doors to a great many Western
> influences that they once feared.
Really? Name one.
> Deng Xiao Ping told
> China's leaders that they've got to risk having flies by
> opening the window for fresh air.
And you believe him?
>
> You know nothing about what's happening in China. You know
> nothing about an awful lot.
You know an awful lot about what I know.
>
> > > Unlike this Nazi, I am
> > > willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
> > > computer screen spewing hate.
> > >
> >
> > It is refreshing to hear that you do something apart from hiding behind a computer
> > spewing hate.
> >
> > Unfortunately it seems that you have been assisting the most murderous regime on earth,
> > that of the Red Chinese, to spew hate instead.
>
> You're a lying jackass. I went to China to teach the
> principles of a free press. And you have the nerve to call
> that spewing hate.
>
Andrew, you do not believe in a free press. You do not believe in freedom. You believe in
hurling the most virulent abuse at anyone who disagrees with you, and throwing people into jail
for questioning your views on history. Chairman Mao would have been proud of you. I'm not
surprised the Chinese invited you in to help indoctrinate their young people.
>
>
> > > Want to know why I worry about the small number of wannabee
> > > Hitlers posting here? Because Nazi bastards who walk, talk,
> > > and think like Cuddles Michael have been fire bombing homes,
> > > churches, and synagogues.
> >
> > A statement that shows your interest in 'truth' to be non existent. I have never fire
> > bombed, nor advocated, homes, churches or synagogues,
>
> I never said you did. You're too much of a coward to bloody
> your own hands. You rather incite others to do the vulgar
> stuff for you.
>
Such incitement is a criminal offence in this country. If you can find an example of me
'inciting' either violence or racial hatred, please quote it. Send a copy to the British police
and tell them to come and arrest me.
But you won't find an example. Why not? Because you are a 'journalist' who tells stories
instead of the truth.
>
> > and should I discover the
> > identities of anyone who had been behaving in such a way I would not hesitate to pass the
> > information on to the police.
>
> No one better hold their breath. I'd bet dollars to
> doughnuts that you've known some Nazi thugs who have
> committed crimes and you kept your mouth shut.
Then if you are going to make such allegations, name names. If you can't, then plainly it's
just another case of a bigoted little left-wing journalist inventing stories because he doesn't
have the talent to find any real ones.
> After all,
> Nazis have a "code of honor."
Andrew, you are talking pure, undiluted elephant shit. They were falling over to denounce each
other at Nuremberg. But, once again, if you don't have any facts you invent them, right?
> As you said, in the good old
> days, Nazis took care of internal dissension with the help
> of a "well placed bullet."
You take care of dissension by lying your pants off.
>
> > But that doesn't interest our 'truth-seeking' journalist.
> > Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's eyes to the truth to
> > be utter poppycock.
>
> The account of my experiences teaching American journalism
> in China were published in ScienceWriters, the newsletter of
> the National Association of Science Writers. Anyone wanting
> to read the article can go to
> http://nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/goldfish.htm
>
> Lying Nazi scum are not invited.
>
Andrew, the Chinese would not have allowed you in unless they viewed you as loyal. They hate
dissent. They even arranged for our police to prevent their leader from seeing demonstrators
when he visited our country recently. They arrest people for doing exercises because they
believe it poses a political threat.
>
> > > They've been shooting down men,
> > > women, and children just because they're "Joos" and "Mud
> > > people." Just a dozen miles from my home, one of his Nazi
> > > comrades gunned down and killed a former university football
> > > coach in front of his young child. He gunned down five Jews
> > > leaving a synagogue. A few days later he shot and killed an
> > > Asian student.
> >
> > Really? And what evidence do you, Mr Journalist, have that this person was a 'Nazi
> > comrade', or indeed any comrade, of mine?
>
> He spewed the same anti-Semitic hate and Nazi lies that you
> spew.
Which specific piece of 'anti-Semitic' hate did we both spew? Or are you just telling lies
again?
> He backed up his rhetoric with a gun. You use a
> computer mouse. That's the only difference I see.
A truly insignificant difference!
>
> > The truth is that you have none. I have had no connections whatsoever with the individual
> > concerned. But the truth does not interest Liar Skolnick. Not unless it is Maoist truth
> > at any rate.
>
> Nazis like you have virtually canonized this murderous
> bastard. They're calling him a "hero" and a "martyr" to
> their cause.
>
I haven't called him either. I'd call him a murderer.
>
> Notice that Herr Cuddles doesn't denounce the cowardly
> murderer.
Who says I don't? Once again, Mr Skolnick doesn't have the talent to find any stories, so he
just invents them.
For the record, I absolutely condemn such murders and advocate the execution of those
responsible.
> He just denies that there's any proof linking him
> to the Nazi killer (a.k.a. "Great Man," "Martyr to His
> People," etc.).
Uh? Where?
>
> Herr Cuddles, you goose-step like that Nazi duck and you
> quack like that Nazi duck.
Comrade Skolnick, you excrete through your mouth.
> You may not shoot down unarmed
> people like that Nazi duck, but you're hardly less evil; for
> you spew the hate that spurs on such maniacs to commit
> violent acts.
No, Comrade Skolnick. I have not advocated hatred and I do not actually feel much hatred
against anyone. But that doesn't fit in with your view of the world, so you have to invent
stories rather than conveying the truth as journalists are supposed to do.
>
>
> > > Yes, these Neo-Nazi vermin are small in
> > > number. But they are very dangerous vermin. Like the Nazis
> > > who followed Hitler, today's Nazis see murder as an
> > > important tool for "social reform."
> > >
> >
> > So do your pals in communist China, Liar Skolnick.
>
> You're projecting. You're the one who champions the cause of
> political murderers.
Where? Cite your evidence.
Oh but you can't. You don't have any. You are lying yet again. Quelle surprise.
> My record is clear, clean, and very
> public.
Your record is one of prejudging issues, spewing hatred and abuse at all who oppose you,
inventing stories instead of investigating the truth, and exhibiting a level of paranoia that
indicates a serious psychotic disturbance.
>
> > > In one of Cuddles Michael's screeds posted here before, you
> > > can see how he defends mass political murders of Nazis. He
> > > "completely supports" the Nazis' shooting political enemies
> > > and "stringing" them "up from lampposts." And then urges us
> > > to forget the "stories about corpses for a moment."
> > >
> >
> > It seems that you were prepared to forget the corpses of the Cultural Revolution for long
> > enough to accept a lucrative post in China, you filthy little hypocrite.
>
> Don't you ever run out of lies? I took a half-a-year leave
> from my "lucrative" job to go to China to teach. In
> addition, I spent about $6000 in various expenses to go. The
> salary and travel expenses I received from the Chinese
> university did not even cover my round-trip air fare.
>
> I did this to help open China's doors to western ideas and
> ideals.
Ah right. The Chinese government paid you a salary and travel expenses to open their doors to
Western ideas and ideals. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
And judging from your performance here, Comrade Skolnick, your notion of Western ideas and
ideals seems to consist of hurling abuse at your opponents (a Maoist technique incidently),
lying about what they believe, making up stories instead of investigating the truth. Yes, I can
see why the Communists were happy to pay you a salary.
> I inspired some students, angered others. One of my
> students went on to get a Masters degree in communication
> from Stanford University and he is now in the United States
> working for a major Hong Kong newspaper.
Yes, I've head about Hong Kong newspapers. The ones that dare not robustly criticize the
Chinese authorities.
> Cuddles, you're not
> morally fit enough to lick that young man's shoes. You much
> rather snuff out the candle and curse the darkness. You're a
> Nazi right down to your bones.
>
Anyone who opposes the Great Revolution is a Nazi, right.
>
> > > Like hell, will we ever let this monster forget!
> > >
> >
> > No, but every time you post your lies, I'll be there to refute them and show you up for
> > the dirty little liar that you are, comrade.
> >
> > >
> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several drawbacks.
> > > > But Mr Skolnick isn't interested in that part of my message. He just wants to lie
> > > > and smear.
> > >
> > > Oh, yeah, the drawbacks Cuddles sees: Hitler's philosophy
> > > wasn't coherent enough, he says. Hitler wasn't pragmatic
> > > enough, he says. Hitler was a lousy military planer, which
> > > is why he lost the most important war of all times, he says.
> > >
> > > The result is that David Cuddles Michael has had to suffer
> > > living in a democratic United Kingdom, which he must share
> > > with Joos and Mud People. For that, Cuddles will never
> > > forgive his fallen Fuehrer.
> > >
> >
> > Well since you're publishing your wild fantasies as to what you would like my political
> > views to be, perhaps you could also enlighten the world on my views on economics? What's
> > that? You don't know them? Well, hell . . . don't let that stop ya -- you invent
> > everything else!
>
> I have no interest in your "views on economics."
>
You mean you can't invent some for me? Why not? You invent my views on everything else!
>
> > And you're a journalist? Are you one of those journalists who write about invasions by
> > UFOs?
>
> I've written for many of the world's most respected
> publications, but I doubt you've read any of them.
People's Daily? News of the World?
> None of
> them have either swastikas in their mastheads or photos of
> bound, naked women.
>
No, they are doubtless full of praise for the wonderful reforms in China, and the wisdom of the
current leadership of that country.
>
> > > > > Or a portion thereof -- Joos and Mud People are not allowed
> > > > > in the New World Order. Nothing personal of course.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No, your lies and smears are not personal. They are directed at anyone who does not
> > > > subscribe to the official line on World War II, irrespective of any consideration
> > > > of truth.
> > >
> > > No, you lying Nazi. My comments have been directed against
> > > about a half a dozen racist scum who have invaded
> > > sci.skeptic and are trying to make the newsgroup a mouth
> > > organ for National Socialism and anti-Semetic hate and lies.
> > > The resistance you have met here from both Jews and non-Jews
> > > from around the world has been ferocious.
> >
> > It has been lukewarm. There's a hardcore group of about 12 people. Given that this is a
> > medium that reaches millions upon millions of people, that is not a great achievement
> > Comrade Skolnick. But once again, why let the truth stand in the way of a good story, eh?
>
> The first victim of Nazi violence is not a man or woman, Jew
> or gentile. It is the truth.
>
The first victim of journalists like you is truth. You wouldn't recognize truth if it ran up
your trouser leg.
>
> > > You'll have to
> > > kill us all if you hope to succeed in taking over
> > > sci.skeptic.
> >
> > Good god, man. You are, with respect, a total fruitcake.
> >
> > > And you know what happened to the last Nazis
> > > who tried to subjugate the world.
> > >
> >
> > Yup. They're currently sitting in the White House and the Kremlin.
>
> David Cuddles Michael sure has a good grasp of world
> history, doesn't he? He equates Bill Clinton with madmen
> like Adolph Hitler, Himmler, Goering, Goebbels, Heydrich,
> Eichman, Hess, and Mengele.
>
I suspect that the people of Iraq would not find that as strange as you do.
>
> Anybody else here interested in Cuddles' view of economics?
>
> I thought not.
>
> Die Gedanken sind frei!
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
David
David E Michael
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:383F1925...@btinternet.com...
>
> > John Morris wrote:
> >
> > > In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> > > 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > >
> > > >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > >> > >
> > >
> > > >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
> several
> > > >> drawbacks.
> > >
> > > >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
> yourself
> > > >> in the foot.
> > >
> > > >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
> yourself
> > > >as an arrogant thug.
> > >
> > > Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
> > >
> > > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> > >
> > > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > > must be condemned unreservedly.
> > >
> > > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> > >
> > > For the full article, see:
> > >
> > > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> > >
> > > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> > > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> > > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > > suit.
>
> > > "Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
>
> > Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause me
> much
> > financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty
> tactics?
>
> But although you can cause me no fiancial damage and have been
> consistently exposed as an uscrupulous liar who tactics are are so covered
> with filth that they resemble a pile of shit.
>
> Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so special.
>
> Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp as a
> dishrag.
>
> ?
> --YFE
Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me. You have not followed through.
I have not threatened to sue Mr Morris. I have no wish to sue him. The more he
hurls lies and abuse at me, the dafter he makes his cause -- your cause --
look. I incur no significant damage from such taunts.
I have publicly claimed that you have lied in a public forum. I have publicly
opined that you are consequently not a fit and proper person to practise law in
Pennsylvania. You have threatened to sue me. I have not heard a squeak from any
court. Why not sir? Were you lying again?
David
John Morris
Nov 1999 23:35:01 +0000, David E Michael
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>John Morris wrote:
>> >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>> http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
>Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause me much
>financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty tactics?
It's a dirty tactic to quote your own words and to supply a URL so
that readers can judge what they mean in context?
Well in fairness to you, I should warn you that there are several
other dirty tactics I use. These include backing up my claims with
evidence, making forceful and logical arguments, and telling the
truth.
I know these things are vile and repugnant to a person of your moral
standards, but I play to win.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
--
David E Michael
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <383F18B0...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> >
> >> David E Michael wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> >> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> >> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> >> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
> several
> >> > > drawbacks.
> >> > >
> >> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
> yourself
> >> > > in the foot.
> >> >
> >> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
> yourself
> >> > as an arrogant thug.
> >> >
> >> > David
> >>
> >> Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
> >>
> >> David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> >> us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> >> his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> >> involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> >> Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> >> blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> >> poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> >> culture.
> >>
> >> When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> >> more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
> >>
> >> -- Andrew Skolnick
> >
> >The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
> >
> >David
>
> David:
>
> This is certainly one of the more idiotic things you've ever posted here.
>
> Your own anti-Semitism is well-documented.
Really? Then you can produce an example?
> Simply because Mr. Skolnick
> disagrees with you doesn't make him a Nazi. If anything, he is merely
> guilty of definition of character.
>
> Sara
>
Ah, but Mr Skolnick produced a dictionary definition of the word 'Nazi' that
includes anyone who thinks or acts like a Nazi. I'd have thought that includes
him quite well.
>
> --
> "I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center
> post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
> Jim Hightower
David
John Morris
26 Nov 1999 19:21:29 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
<asko...@stopmindspring.com> wrote:
>"Yale F. Edeiken" wrote:
[snip]
>> The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War II.
>> "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
>> Not much doubt about your leanings.
>Hey Yale, where did Cuddles post that statement? Had he
>posted that 50 years ago, it could have gotten him hanged as
>a traitor. He's still a traitor -- we just can't hang him
>for it.
Regarding the IMT at Nuremberg, David Michael said on June 25, 1998:
I just have. The answer is that Article 1 ensures that our side
got tried by your side and your side got off without being brought
to book. In short Streicher was tried because he was a German and an
easy target. Harris was not tried because there was no justice at
Nuremburg. You were not interested in justice. You were not even
interested in the law. You wanted the blood of innocent men.
-- http://x23.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365835009
Regarding war crimes, David Michael said on June 24, 1998:
Well, if you wish to try to ease your conscience by calling
your side's atrocities 'acts of war' and our side's alleged
atrocities 'murder' I wish you good luck! But I will then have
to press you to tell me what precisely constitutes an 'act of
war' and why Hamburg and Dresden and Nagasaki and Hiroshima
constitute such acts whereas Auschwitz does not.
-- http://x38.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365495289
Ed Kadach
>
> Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>
> >
> > > John Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > > In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> > > > 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > > >
> > > > >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > > > >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > > > >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > > > >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> > > > >> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
> > several
> > > > >> drawbacks.
> > > >
> > > > >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
> > yourself
> > > > >> in the foot.
> > > >
> > > > >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
> > yourself
> > > > >as an arrogant thug.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> > > >
> > > > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > > > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > > > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > > > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > > > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > > > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > > > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > > > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > > > must be condemned unreservedly.
> > > >
> > > > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> > > >
> > > > For the full article, see:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> > > >
> > > > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> > > > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> > > > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > > > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > > > suit.
> >
> >
> > much
> > > financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty
> > tactics?
> >
> > consistently exposed as an uscrupulous liar who tactics are are so covered
> > with filth that they resemble a pile of shit.
> >
> > Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so special.
> >
> > Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp as a
> > dishrag.
> >
> > ?
> > --YFE
>
> Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me. You have not followed through.
> I have not threatened to sue Mr Morris. I have no wish to sue him. The more he
> hurls lies and abuse at me, the dafter he makes his cause -- your cause --
> look. I incur no significant damage from such taunts.
>
> I have publicly claimed that you have lied in a public forum. I have publicly
> opined that you are consequently not a fit and proper person to practise law in
> Pennsylvania. You have threatened to sue me. I have not heard a squeak from any
> court. Why not sir? Were you lying again?
>
> David
Of course Yale is lying. Yale is a pathological liar.
Racialist regards,
Ed Kadach
Andrew A. Skolnick
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > > > David E Michael wrote:
> > > > > Yet one quarter of humanity is enslaved by communism. The forces that sustained and
> > > > > financed communism during its murderous years on this earth are still firmly in
> > > > > place. How strange that Mr Skolnick is so fixated on a force that, in his words,
> > > > > 'is now a rare disease' and yet remains so indifferent to far greater evils.
> > > >
> > > > Despicable lies. Had Herr Cuddles done his homework, he
> > > > would have learned that I spent half a year in 1996 teaching
> > > > American journalism at a Chinese university in Shanghai.
> > >
> > > Now I just wonder why the communist authorities there permitted that!!!
> >
> > You're obviously no more of a China scholar than you a
> > scholar on American law. Guffaw.
> No, but I am a close observer of communism and the Chinese Communist party would not have
> permitted you into the country unless they were pretty certain that you would pose no danger to
> them. Hell, man, they even arrest people for supporting Falun Gong, so they're hardly likely to
> invite Western journalists who are likely to start converting their citizens!
>
We know about your "power" of observation from your
writings, Herr Cuddles. Among your posted observations:
-- The Nazi stereotype of Jews are "true-to-life."
-- You completely support the shooting and lynching of
communists by Nazis.
-- Hitler's biggest error is losing the "most important war
of all time."
-- Hitler wasn't pragmatic enough.
I don't think readers on either of these newsgroups put much
stock in your "observations."
> > > > It
> > > > was a trying and difficult experience, but I did reach some
> > > > students and opened their eyes to the importance of free
> > > > speech and the duty of journalists to find the truth and
> > > > report it.
> > >
> > > Andrew, you are not interested in the truth. You are interested in fighting Nazis, be
> > > they real or imaginary, and you do not hesitate to lie and smear to that end.
No, you crackpot Nazi. Those are your tactics. Readers in
these newsgroups have seen you lie from one side of your
mouth while you deny it from the other. Hitler's stereotype
of Jews was "true-to-life," comes out of one side, "I never
spew anti-Semitism," comes out of the other. You are a
hateful, despicable anti-Semite and a liar. You've convicted
yourself of these offenses with your own twisted words.
> > You are projecting. Your record of lies and hatemongering
> > are well documented in this newsgroup and in other areas of
> > the Internet.
> >
>
> Yet you are unable to provide examples of either my supposed lies or my supposed hatemongering.
> How strange!
What is strange is that the examples of your hate mongering
I provided are invisible to you. You refuse to see them. I
quoted your statement that Hitler's stereotyping of the Jews
was "true-to-life." No, you say, that's not an anti-Semitic
comment. How strange indeed.
> The problem with you is that you see Nazis behind every bush.
You are a liar. I see about a dozen Nazis who have invaded
sci.skeptic. And there were also a couple in the U.S. news
earlier this year. They shot down and murdered Jews and "mud
people" and even shot down five children in a day care
school.
I see an infinitely greater number of bushes and -- I am
happy to report -- they are quite free of Nazis. However, I
do see one in front of your computer screen. And that's one
too many.
> > > > My background shows that I am anything but
> > > > indifferent to oppression in China.
> > >
> > > So why did the communist authorities let you in?
> >
> > Hint: China has opened their doors to a great many Western
> > influences that they once feared.
>
> Really? Name one.
Duh! Ever hear of capitalism? You really are a moron. China
now has stock exchanges, investors, McDonalds, Kentucky
Fried Chicken, and other fast food chains, and rampant
private ownership. Communism in China is now a myth.
China is still brutally undemocratic. It won't tolerate
public dissension. But individual dissension is common and
tolerated. People are always bitching about their leaders
and corruption. They just can't do it from a soap box or in
print or a broadcast. But that eventually will change too.
Once again, you demonstrate that you don't know what you are
talking about.
> > Deng Xiao Ping told
> > China's leaders that they've got to risk having flies by
> > opening the window for fresh air.
>
> And you believe him?
You mean that you don't risk flies when you open the window
for fresh air? Boy was I mistaken.
> > You know nothing about what's happening in China. You know
> > nothing about an awful lot.
>
> You know an awful lot about what I know.
What I know is that you just make things up. I know that you
argue by flinging red herrings. I know that you lie. I know
that you spew hate. That's enough to know to dismiss you as
a lying Nazi.
> > > > Unlike this Nazi, I am
> > > > willing to do something about it instead of hiding behind a
> > > > computer screen spewing hate.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is refreshing to hear that you do something apart from hiding behind a computer
> > > spewing hate.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately it seems that you have been assisting the most murderous regime on earth,
> > > that of the Red Chinese, to spew hate instead.
> >
> > You're a lying jackass. I went to China to teach the
> > principles of a free press. And you have the nerve to call
> > that spewing hate.
> >
>
> Andrew, you do not believe in a free press.
Perfect example. You just fling defamations, disregarding
all the evidence to the contrary that's on the public
record.
> You do not believe in freedom.
No, Nazi, you are projecting again. You are the one who
"completely supports" Hitler's murder of political enemies.
You are the one who called Hitler's totalitarian nightmare a
"beautiful dream."
>You believe in
> hurling the most virulent abuse at anyone who disagrees with you,
What you call hurling abuse is confronting you with your own
lies and evil. The half dozen or so Nazis I've attacked here
on sci.skeptic are not the only people I disagree with.
Trust me. However, Nazi scum get and deserve special
treatment.
>and throwing people into jail
> for questioning your views on history.
You're a liar. I advocate no such thing.
You, however, "completely support" Hitler's shooting and
lynching of political enemies.
> Chairman Mao would have been proud of you.
> Hardly. He never would have let me into China. Today's China is vastly more open than Mao's.
Perhaps you are thinking of Hitler and that he would have
warmly embraced you.
<snipt>
> > As you said, in the good old
> > days, Nazis took care of internal dissension with the help
> > of a "well placed bullet."
>
> You take care of dissension by lying your pants off.
Oh, Cuddles. I'm stung. But that's not much of a defense of
your championing the Nazi technique for quelling dissent
with, in your own words, "a well placed bullet."
You've woven for yourself a noose of hate-filled,
anti-Semitic words in support of political violence and
totalitarianism. Don't blame me if the noose hurts your
neck. That problem is on your neck.
> > > But that doesn't interest our 'truth-seeking' journalist.
> > > Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's eyes to the truth to
> > > be utter poppycock.
> >
> > The account of my experiences teaching American journalism
> > in China were published in ScienceWriters, the newsletter of
> > the National Association of Science Writers. Anyone wanting
> > to read the article can go to
> > http://nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/goldfish.htm
> >
> > Lying Nazi scum are not invited.
> >
>
> Andrew, the Chinese would not have allowed you in unless they viewed you as loyal. They hate
> dissent. They even arranged for our police to prevent their leader from seeing demonstrators
> when he visited our country recently. They arrest people for doing exercises because they
> believe it poses a political threat.
You have utter disregard for the truth. Yes, China is a
one-party dictatorship. But it's not communist any more. It
tolerates a great amount of dissension, but not yet in print
or broadcast or in public demonstrations. Many teachers and
others from the West have been taking advantage of the
opening door to China to go there and persuade them to open
their door wider. That's what I did.
> > > > They've been shooting down men,
> > > > women, and children just because they're "Joos" and "Mud
> > > > people." Just a dozen miles from my home, one of his Nazi
> > > > comrades gunned down and killed a former university football
> > > > coach in front of his young child. He gunned down five Jews
> > > > leaving a synagogue. A few days later he shot and killed an
> > > > Asian student.
> > >
> > > Really? And what evidence do you, Mr Journalist, have that this person was a 'Nazi
> > > comrade', or indeed any comrade, of mine?
> >
> > He spewed the same anti-Semitic hate and Nazi lies that you
> > spew.
>
> Which specific piece of 'anti-Semitic' hate did we both spew? Or are you just telling lies
> again?
>
> > He backed up his rhetoric with a gun. You use a
> > computer mouse. That's the only difference I see.
>
> A truly insignificant difference!
Yeah, right. Joseph Goebbels never gassed anyone. He didn't
shoot any Jews or Gypsies. He killed them with his vile
lies. He would have been hanged for his crimes had he not
killed himself like the coward he was.
You, sir, are a similar coward. You wage a war against
people with your hateful lies. Deaths that result from your
lies will be on you.
> > > The truth is that you have none. I have had no connections whatsoever with the individual
> > > concerned. But the truth does not interest Liar Skolnick. Not unless it is Maoist truth
> > > at any rate.
> >
> > Nazis like you have virtually canonized this murderous
> > bastard. They're calling him a "hero" and a "martyr" to
> > their cause.
> >
>
> I haven't called him either. I'd call him a murderer.
>
> >
> > Notice that Herr Cuddles doesn't denounce the cowardly
> > murderer.
He still hasn't.
> Who says I don't? Once again, Mr Skolnick doesn't have the talent to find any stories, so he
> just invents them.
Notice that Herr Cuddles still has not denounced the monster
that Nazis in America are calling a hero and martyr.
> For the record, I absolutely condemn such murders and advocate the execution of those
> responsible.
For the record, Herr Cuddles never denounces Nazi murderers.
He only speaks in disingenuous generalities like, "I
absolutely condemn such murders and advocate the execution
of those responsible." Out of the other side of his twisted
mouth he lauds the Nazis' murder of communists and other
political enemies.
> > He just denies that there's any proof linking him
> > to the Nazi killer (a.k.a. "Great Man," "Martyr to His
> > People," etc.).
>
> Uh? Where?
>
> >
> > Herr Cuddles, you goose-step like that Nazi duck and you
> > quack like that Nazi duck.
>
> Comrade Skolnick, you excrete through your mouth.
>
> > You may not shoot down unarmed
> > people like that Nazi duck, but you're hardly less evil; for
> > you spew the hate that spurs on such maniacs to commit
> > violent acts.
>
> No, Comrade Skolnick. I have not advocated hatred and I do not actually feel much hatred
> against anyone. But that doesn't fit in with your view of the world, so you have to invent
> stories rather than conveying the truth as journalists are supposed to do.
>
Herr Cuddles denounces Jews as "arrogant" and "dishonest."
He says Hitler's stereotyping of Jews is "true-to-life." But
no, Herr Cuddles doesn't spew hate. In his mind he thinks
he's kind to the Jews. He doesn't understand why Jews don't
like him. Further evidence of their despicable nature, he
says.
> > > > Yes, these Neo-Nazi vermin are small in
> > > > number. But they are very dangerous vermin. Like the Nazis
> > > > who followed Hitler, today's Nazis see murder as an
> > > > important tool for "social reform."
> > > >
> > >
> > > So do your pals in communist China, Liar Skolnick.
> >
> > You're projecting. You're the one who champions the cause of
> > political murderers.
>
> Where? Cite your evidence.
Citing your own words doesn't seem to do much good. Herr
Cuddles simply ignores the evidence. But here's an example
from one of his screeds:
"the Nazis had an excellent record of dealing
appropriately
with communists. They hanged them, shot them, strung them
up from lamp-posts. And in so doing they have my complete
support."
> Oh but you can't. You don't have any. You are lying yet again. Quelle surprise.
Your own words, Cuddles, convict you as the liar.
<snipt>
> > > And you're a journalist? Are you one of those journalists who write about invasions by
> > > UFOs?
> >
> > I've written for many of the world's most respected
> > publications, but I doubt you've read any of them.
>
> People's Daily? News of the World?
No, publications you probably never heard of: The Journal of
the American Medical Association, The New York Times, St.
Louis Post-Dispatch, Smithsonian, Natural History Magazine,
Encyclopaedia Britannica. Publications like that. None of
them dedicated to the memory of Adolph Hitler. None of them
with S/M or bondage stories. You wouldn't be interested.
<snipt>
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > >
> > > David E Michael, a nazi, <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > news:383EB306...@btinternet.com...
> > >
> > > > > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > > > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > > > certain requirements.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > > > I'm told it's awesome.
> > >
> > > them:
> > >
> > > "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
> > >
> > > Not much doubt about your leanings.
> > >
> >
> > Hey Yale, where did Cuddles post that statement? Had he
> > posted that 50 years ago, it could have gotten him hanged as
> > a traitor. He's still a traitor -- we just can't hang him
> > for it.
> >
>
> Do you believe that I should be hanged, Mr Skolnick? Yes or no?
>
> David
Not yet. Your crimes are far too feeble for such punishment.
But I sense that you have bigger ambitions, so I reserve
judgment.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <383F18B0...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> > >> >
> > >> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > >> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > >> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > >> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
> > several
> > >> > > drawbacks.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
> > yourself
> > >> > > in the foot.
> > >> >
> > >> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
> > yourself
> > >> > as an arrogant thug.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
> > >>
> > >> David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> > >> us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> > >> his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> > >> involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> > >> Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> > >> blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> > >> poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> > >> culture.
> > >>
> > >> When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> > >> more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
> > >>
> > >> -- Andrew Skolnick
> > >
> > >The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
> > >
> > >David
> >
> > David:
> >
> > This is certainly one of the more idiotic things you've ever posted here.
> >
> > Your own anti-Semitism is well-documented.
>
> Really? Then you can produce an example?
When we post examples, you simply deny that the
anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism. An example:
"I must say that I am struck by how true-to-life the
Nazi stereotype of the Jews seems to be....I tend to
strongly dislike most Jews whom I meet -- they are
arrogant, aggressive, dishonest people."
But you deny that this is anti-Semitic. Hitler was right
about the Jews, you say. This is not anti-Semetic you say.
The whole world sees you as a detestable liar, Herr Cuddles.
And an anti-Semite.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> In <383F3219...@stopmindspring.com> in alt.revisionism, on Fri,
> 26 Nov 1999 19:21:29 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
>
> >> The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War II.
> >> "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
>
> >> Not much doubt about your leanings.
>
> >posted that 50 years ago, it could have gotten him hanged as
> >a traitor. He's still a traitor -- we just can't hang him
> >for it.
>
>
> I just have. The answer is that Article 1 ensures that our side
> got tried by your side and your side got off without being brought
> to book. In short Streicher was tried because he was a German and an
> easy target. Harris was not tried because there was no justice at
> Nuremburg. You were not interested in justice. You were not even
> interested in the law. You wanted the blood of innocent men.
> -- http://x23.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365835009
>
Wow! Thanks. By his own words, he indicts himself as a Nazi
traitor. The brave men and women of the United Kingdom were
the enemy. He sides with the Nazi mass murderers and
totalitarian mad men.
> Regarding war crimes, David Michael said on June 24, 1998:
>
> Well, if you wish to try to ease your conscience by calling
> your side's atrocities 'acts of war' and our side's alleged
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> atrocities 'murder' I wish you good luck! But I will then have
> to press you to tell me what precisely constitutes an 'act of
> war' and why Hamburg and Dresden and Nagasaki and Hiroshima
> constitute such acts whereas Auschwitz does not.
> -- http://x38.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365495289
Pity he didn't say this 50 years ago. He could have hung out
with Lord Haw Haw.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Sara Salzman
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
You BEGGED Mr. Edeiken to sue you, and then complained when the American
Legal System didn't fit YOUR view of what it should be.
In America, POLICE issue summonses. Lawyers do not.
Sara
Philip Mathews
>Ed Kadach edd...@connect.ab.ca
>David E Michael wrote:
>>
>> Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>>
>> > David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> > news:383F1925...@btinternet.com...
>> >
>> > > John Morris wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
>> > > > 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in
>message
>> > > > >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
>> > > >
>> > > > >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
>> > > > >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
>> > > > >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
>> > > > >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
>> > several
>> > > > >> drawbacks.
>> > > >
>> > > > >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
>> > yourself
>> > > > >> in the foot.
>> > > >
>> > > > >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
>> > yourself
>> > > > >as an arrogant thug.
>> > > >
>> > > > Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
>> > > >
>> > > > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
>> > > >
>> > > > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
>> > > > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
>> > > > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
>> > > > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
>> > > > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
>> > > > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
>> > > > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
>> > > > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
>> > > > must be condemned unreservedly.
>> > > >
>> > > > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
>> > > >
>> > > > For the full article, see:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
>> > > >
>> > > > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
>> > > > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company
Eddie, you don't even know what pathological means!
And I don't think David's legal problems need to be further burdened by the
credibility of your statements.
>
>Racialist regards,
>Ed Kadach
Regards to a racist,
Philip Mathews
"Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing
knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant
than would take even a little trouble to acquire it." Samuel Johnson
Gord McFee
+0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <383F18B0...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> > <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> > >
> > >> David E Michael wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> > > news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> > >> > > > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> > >> > > > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> > >> > > > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with
> > several
> > >> > > drawbacks.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting
> > yourself
> > >> > > in the foot.
> > >> >
> > >> > What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing
> > yourself
> > >> > as an arrogant thug.
> > >> >
> > >> > David
> > >>
> > >> Just who is the "arrogant thug?"
> > >>
> > >> David Cuddles Michael has shared his "beautiful dream" with
> > >> us, in which he describes his view of a new world order. In
> > >> his "beautiful dream" that is worth "fighting and dying for"
> > >> involves a more "pragmatic" Nazism than was practiced by
> > >> Adolph Hitler. This beautiful new world order would be
> > >> blessed with perfect world peace, Herr Cuddles says, with no
> > >> poverty, with nothing but pure beautiful culture -- his
> > >> culture.
> > >>
> > >> When you want "arrogant thugs" you cannot find any that are
> > >> more arrogant or more thuggish than Nazis like Herr Cuddles.
> > >>
> > >> -- Andrew Skolnick
> > >
> > >The biggest 'Nazi' in this newsgroup is you.
> > >
> > >David
> >
> > David:
> >
> > This is certainly one of the more idiotic things you've ever posted here.
> >
> > Your own anti-Semitism is well-documented.
>
> Really? Then you can produce an example?
Easily.
David Michael whines about Daniel Keren accusing him of posting
"hardcore antisemitic propaganda". Here is his whine.
<David Michael>
Dr Danny Keren recently accused me in this newsgroup of posting
'hardcore' antisemitic propaganda under a pseudonym. His accusation was
false. I again publicly challenge him either to post an example of
'hardcore' antisemitic propaganda posted by me, or to apologize like a
man.
</David Michael>
Why should Dr Keren apologize? He is right. Here is what David Michael
had previously said:
<David Michael>
I can see how the concerns about Jewish influence may have arisen, and
from my own fairly recent encounter with the Jewish community, I must
say that I am struck by how true-to-life the Nazi stereotype of the Jews
seems to be. I think the problem, however, is cultural rather than
genetic. I tend to strongly dislike most Jews whom I meet -- they are
arrogant, aggressive, dishonest people.
</David Michael>
Here is what the Nazi stereotype was:
<begin quote>
Diese Verpestung unseres Blutes, an der Hunderttausende unseres Volkes
wie blind vorübergehen, wird aber vom Juden heute planmäßig betrieben.
Planmäßig schänden diese schwarzen Völkerparasiten unsere unerfahrenen,
jungen blonden Mädchen und zerstören dadurch etwas, was auf dieser Welt
nicht mehr ersetzt werden kann.
This contamination of our blood, which hundreds of thousands of our
people blindly ignore, is used by the Jew today according to plan.
These black parasites of the peoples deliberately violate our
inexperienced, young blond girls and thereby destroy something that
cannot be replaced in this world.
-- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, Vol II, pages 629-30
<end quote>
<begin quote>
Das furchtbarste Beispiel dieser Art bildet Rußland, wo er an dreißig
Millionen Menschen in wahrhaft fanatischer Wildheit teilweise unter
unmenschlichen Qualen tötete oder verhungern ließ, um einem Haufen
jüdischer Literaten und Börsenbanditen die Herrschaft aber ein großes
Volk zu sichern.
Das Ende aber ist nicht nur das Ende der Freiheit der vom Juden
unterdrückten Völker, sondern auch das Ende dieses Völkerparasiten
selber. Nach dem Tode des Opfers stirbt auch früher oder später der
Vampir.
The most fearsome example of this kind is Russia where he (Jewry)
allowed 39 million humans in truly fanatical wildness to die or starve
in inhuman agony, in order to secure the mastery of a great people for a
gang of Jewish literati and stock exchange bandits.
The result is not only the end of freedom for the people oppressed by
the Jews, but rather also the end of these parasites of the peoples
themselves. After the death of the victim, the vampire dies sooner or
later.
-- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, vol I, page 358
<end quote>
<begin quote>
Gab es denn da einen Unrat, eine Schamlosigkeit in irgendeiner Form, vor
allem des kulturellen Lebens, an der nicht wenigstens ein Jude beteiligt
gewesen wäre? Sowie man nur vorsichtig in eine solche Geschwulst
hineinschnitt, fand man, wie die Made im faulenden Leibe, oft ganz
geblendet vom plötzlichen Lichte, ein Jüdlein.
Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in
cultural life, in which at least one Jew would not have been involved?
As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like
maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, a kike.
-- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, Volume I, page 61
<end quote>
<begin quote>
Der schwarzhaarige Judenjunge lauert stundenlang, satanishe Freude in
seinem Gesicht, auf das ahnungslose Mädchen, das er mit seinem Blute
schändet und damit seinem, des Mädchens, Volke raubt.
With satanic joy on his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait
for hours for the unsuspecting girl, whom he violates with his blood and
thereby steals her from her people.
-- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, Volume I, page 357
<end quote>
<begin quote>
Hätte man zu Kriegsbeginn und während des Krieges einmal zwölf- oder
fünfzehntausend dieser hebräischen Volksverderber so unter Giftgas
gehalten, wie Hunderttausende unserer allerbesten deutschen Arbeiter aus
allen Schichten und Berufen es im Felde erdulden mußten, dann wäre das
Millionenopfer der Front nicht vergeblich gewesen. (Volume II, page 772)
If we had at the beginning of, and during the war, subjected 12 or
15,000 of these Hebrew corrupters of the people to poison gas, as
hundreds of thousands of our bestGerman workers from all strata and
occupations had to endure, then millions of victims of the Front would
not have been in vain.
-- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, Vol II, page 772
<end quote>
That is the stereotype that David Michael described as "true-to-life".
Equating Jews to vampires, parasites, violators of young girls, maggots,
corrupters of the people and so on, and then wishing they had been
gassed, is as hardcore antisemitic as one can get. That is what David
Michael admits he agrees with. Dr Keren is perfectly right about him.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Gord McFee
11:04:16 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> In <383F1925...@btinternet.com> in alt.revisionism, on Fri, 26
> Nov 1999 23:35:01 +0000, David E Michael
> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >John Morris wrote:
>
> >> In <383EE743...@btinternet.com> in sci.skeptic, on Fri, 26 Nov
> >> 1999 20:02:11 +0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>
> >> >> "David E Michael" <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:383EE595...@btinternet.com...
>
> >> >> > > It is part of Cuddles' fantasies that Nazis are everywhere,
> >> >> > > waiting to resume Hitler's work to bring about his
> >> >> > > "beautiful dream" of National Socialism. It is a "beautiful
> >> >> > > dream," Cuddles tells us, meant for all of humankind.
> >> >> > >
>
> >> >> > And as Cuddles also pointed out, it was a 'beautiful dream' with several
> >> >> drawbacks.
>
> >> >> What's amazing about you, Cruddles, is how you insist on shooting yourself
> >> >> in the foot.
>
> >> >What's amazing about you, Mr Rosenbug, is how you insist on showing yourself
> >> >as an arrogant thug.
>
> >> Awww. Is the big bad Jew picking on Little David again?
>
> >> Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
>
> >> Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> >> at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> >> This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> >> clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> >> there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> >> or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> >> resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> >> inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> >> must be condemned unreservedly.
>
> >> And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
>
> >> For the full article, see:
>
> >> http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
>
> >> Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy liar
> >> who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company of
> >> decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> >> summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> >> suit.
>
> >Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause me much
> >financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty tactics?
>
> It's a dirty tactic to quote your own words and to supply a URL so
> that readers can judge what they mean in context?
Of course it is. The last thing David wants to face is his own words.
Wigglers rarely do.
> Well in fairness to you, I should warn you that there are several
> other dirty tactics I use. These include backing up my claims with
> evidence, making forceful and logical arguments, and telling the
> truth.
Awk.....
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> In <3840029B...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com> in sci.skeptic, on
> Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:11:07 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
> >> 26 Nov 1999 19:21:29 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
> "your side," it is important to note his unequivocal statement of the
> innocence of the Nazis, something he normally dances around.
>
> In context of the original discussion, David's position was, shall we
> say, fluid. Sometimes he insisted that he would regard Auschwitz as a
> war crime if others would regard Dresden as a war crime. At other
> times, he argued that the Nazi *perception* of the Jews as enemies
> allowed us to define the Holocaust as an act of war.
He sure is one twisted, moral ignoramus. For centuries, the
rules of war have prohibited, or at least frowned upon, the
killing of non-combatants and captured soldiers. Killing
enemy civilians who haven't surrendered is terrible enough
-- both the Nazis and the Allies bombed cities and
deliberately killed large numbers of civilians -- but the
mass execution of CAPTURED civilians is a heinous war crime.
That crime was perpetrated only by the Nazis. It was for
those crimes that Nazi war criminals were hanged or
imprisoned -- not for their war time bombings.
So, it couldn't be any clearer. In his own words, Herr
Cuddles Michael admits that he is here fighting under the
flag with the swastika. "His side" is the side that tried to
enslave the world, that invaded and pillaged nearly every
country in Europe, that declared war against the United
States, that tortured and murdered 6 million Jews and
millions of other civilian men, women, children, and babies
in concentration and extermination camps.
But noooo, Cuddles is not a Nazi. He just plays one on the
Internet.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
> emigres. They were then repatriated to Russia. They were not permitted to escape. Some
> committed suicide rather than return. On their return, most were killed by Uncle Joe.
> The incident is referred to briefly in a footnote in Solzhenitsyn's *Gulag Archipelago*
> and is discussed in depth in Nikolai Tolstoi's *Victims of Yalta*.
>
> More false news from the journalist who invents his truth.
>
> David
Stalin and Hitler were allies during the early part of the
war, until Hitler launched a sneak invasion into Russia.
That forced Stalin to join the Allies. Stalin was a butcher
who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler. They're both
rotting in Hell. Send them my regards when you get there,
Cuddles.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> More false news from the journalist who invents his truth.
>
> David
Right. That comes from the Nazi who wrote that Hitler's
stereotype of Jews is "true-to-life," and then insists that
his comment is not anti-Semitic.
As at least a dozen posters here have already observed,
David Cuddles Michael is an inveterate liar.
-- Andrew Skolnick
steve wolk
The difference here is that Cuddles the Nazi Clown twists Andrew's words
to make it seem as if Andrew has said something which, in fact, he has
not. Andrew (and others), on the other hand, use Cuddles the Nazi
Clown's EXACT words to show that he is what he whines he isn't. Andrew
is convicted only out of Cuddles the Nazi Clown's mouth, which is to say
that he is not convicted at all. Cuddles the Nazi Clown, however, is
convicted out of his OWN mouth. A true confession, as it were. It is
not surprising that there was no honeymoon.
Steve
words
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > war, until Hitler launched a sneak invasion into Russia.
> > That forced Stalin to join the Allies.
>
> invaded Russia for Stalin to join.
> Another lie from the 'journalist' who invents his truth.
No, you nitwit. Because Hitler betrayed Stalin and broke
their pack between USSR and Nazi Germany, Stalin was forced
to join the Allies. He never would have joined the Allies
had Hitler not invaded the Soviet Union.
Only a lying crackpot like Cuddles would deny the
relationship between these events.
> > Stalin was a butcher
> > who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler.
>
> And the British and Americans were his loyal allies.
Hardly. Stalin was forced to switch sides after Hitler's
treacherous invasion. Until then, there was much animosity
between the Soviets and the British and Americans.
> > They're both
> > rotting in Hell. Send them my regards when you get there,
> > Cuddles.
> Nah, I'll be waiting for you with my pitchfork sharpened.
I have no doubt. Nazis like you would probably be given jobs
as guards in Hell.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Sara Salzman
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
>> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
>>
>> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
>
>No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send him
>an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
>week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any court.
>
>>
>> You BEGGED Mr. Edeiken to sue you, and then complained when the American
>> Legal System didn't fit YOUR view of what it should be.
>>
>
>Uh?
>
>>
>> In America, POLICE issue summonses. Lawyers do not.
>>
>
>You may well be correct but we have different legal systems. You'll see from
>the link I gave earlier this evening that summonses are (sometimes) issued
>in British civil courts.
>
The point is, you made a derogatory comment about Mr. Edeiken's ability as
an AMERICAN lawyer simply because he stated that a summons was not in
order.
I think you need to step back and decide WHAT you're talking about.
Andrew A. Skolnick
>
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
>
> > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > More false news from the journalist who invents his truth.
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > stereotype of Jews is "true-to-life," and then insists that
> > his comment is not anti-Semitic.
> >
> > As at least a dozen posters here have already observed,
> > David Cuddles Michael is an inveterate liar.
> >
> > -- Andrew Skolnick
>
> dozen times (as usual).
>
> David
Eager to prove my point, David Cuddles Michael posts yet
another slimy whopper. Just within the past 24 hours, SEVEN
posters attacked Cuddles' penchant for lying (Gord McFee,
Yale Ediken, Sara Salzman, William Daffer, John Morris,
Steve Wolk, and me.)
Cuddles once again proves he is a shameless liar. Getting
caught in lies doesn't bother him a bit. But what can you
expect from a person who compares Hitler to "a cuddly
hamster" and calls the murder of millions of men, women, and
children in the gas chambers of Auschwitz an "act of war."
-- Andrew Skolnick
steve wolk
And, in a few hours, Cuddles the Nazi Clown will post again to say "I
challenge you to post an example of hardcore anti-semitic propaganda
posted by me". He will post this again and again and again, over and
over, as long as he is able to pound a keyboard. In between his
anti-semitic posts, of course.
Steve
Yale F. Edeiken
>
>
> Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
]> > > > Well, he's doing it to earn Nazi honors that are kind of
> > > > like boy scout badges, only with tattoos. If Nazi creatins
> > > > like Bradbury want to earn Nazi tatoos they have to meet
> > > > certain requirements.
> > > >
> > > > For example, to earn a Self-Defense tattoo, they have to
> > > > beat up at least 25 queers, 10 civil rights protestors, 10
> > > > kike men, or 30 kike women. For their Religious Freedom (or
> > > > more accurately Freedom from Religion) tattoo, they have to
> > > > torch or fire bomb at least 5 churches or synagogues. To
> > > > earn a Freedom of Speech tattoo, they have to post 5 million
> > > > rabid posts on newsgroups. To earn the most honored
> > > > "Ubermensch" tatoo, they have to torture and murder any one
> > > > of the "mud people" in front of Nazi brothers.
> > > >
> > > > Scott Bradbury is close to earning his first tattoo, the
> > > > highly coveted, Goebbels Freedom of Speech tattoo. The
> > > > tattoo consists of Goebbels' face with gluteus maximus lips.
> > > > I'm told it's awesome.
> >
> > > I just bet Andrew Skolnick is covered with tattoos. I can just imagine
> > them:
> >
> > The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War
II.
> > "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
> >
> > Not much doubt about your leanings.
> Nah, I just think that a Churchill-Hitler alliance would have been a lot
better
> (including better for the Jews) than a Churchill-Stalin one.
Bullshit, Lord Haw Haw. That statement was made about the Nuremberg
Trials.
Your own words demonstrate that you are a nazi.
> Fifteen days have passed since you threatened to sue me. I have still not
heard
> a squeak from any court, sir. Why not?
Liar. I never at any time threatened to sue you.
And, of course, the average time for service from the US to the UK is 30
days.
Had you the slightest bit of knowledge of either substantive law or
legal procedures you would have known this.
Instead you prefer to lie,
That ios because you are a lying cocksucker.
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
Yale F. Edeiken
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> > > > Despicable lies. Had Herr Cuddles done his homework, he
> > > > would have learned that I spent half a year in 1996 teaching
> > > > American journalism at a Chinese university in Shanghai.
> > >
> > > Now I just wonder why the communist authorities there permitted
that!!!
> >
> > You're obviously no more of a China scholar than you a
> > scholar on American law. Guffaw.
> No,
But you will make accusations anyway.
> > You are projecting. Your record of lies and hatemongering
> > are well documented in this newsgroup and in other areas of
> > the Internet.
> Yet you are unable to provide examples of either my supposed lies or my
supposed hatemongering.
> How strange!
That has been done ad nauseum.
The strange thing is that you continue to claim that you have not done
so.
> The problem with you is that you see Nazis behind every bush.
No. The problem is that you are a nazi. As you have admitted on many
occasions.
> > Hint: China has opened their doors to a great many Western
> > influences that they once feared.
> Really? Name one.
Richard M. Nixon.
> > Deng Xiao Ping told
> > China's leaders that they've got to risk having flies by
> > opening the window for fresh air.
> And you believe him?
Sooner than a nazi who admits he is ignorant of China.
> > You know nothing about what's happening in China. You know
> > nothing about an awful lot.
> You know an awful lot about what I know.
There can't be an awful lot. You know next to nothing.
> > You're a lying jackass. I went to China to teach the
> > principles of a free press. And you have the nerve to call
> > that spewing hate.
> Andrew, you do not believe in a free press.
You are a liar.
> You do not believe in freedom.
You are a liar.
>You believe in
> hurling the most virulent abuse at anyone who disagrees with you,
You are a liar.
> and throwing people into jail
> for questioning your views on history. Chairman Mao would have been proud
of you. I'm not
> surprised the Chinese invited you in to help indoctrinate their young
people.
You are a liar.
> > I never said you did. You're too much of a coward to bloody
> > your own hands. You rather incite others to do the vulgar
> > stuff for you.
> Such incitement is a criminal offence in this country.
You are a liar. Unless a specific crime is advocated, it is not
incitement.
> If you can find an example of me
> 'inciting' either violence or racial hatred, please quote it. Send a copy
to the British police
> and tell them to come and arrest me.
For what. Advocating violence is not a crime.
> But you won't find an example. Why not? Because you are a 'journalist' who
tells stories
> instead of the truth.
But such an expample has been printed here. Specifically after some of
your friends blew up a pub, you approved of the action.
> > No one better hold their breath. I'd bet dollars to
> > doughnuts that you've known some Nazi thugs who have
> > committed crimes and you kept your mouth shut.
> Then if you are going to make such allegations, name names. If you can't,
then plainly it's
> just another case of a bigoted little left-wing journalist inventing
stories because he doesn't
> have the talent to find any real ones.
The real story is that you are a nazi. He was able to find that out.
> > After all,
> > Nazis have a "code of honor."
> Andrew, you are talking pure, undiluted elephant shit. They were falling
over to denounce each
> other at Nuremberg. But, once again, if you don't have any facts you
invent them, right?
That see3ms to be the technique of Lord Haw-Haw.
> > As you said, in the good old
> > days, Nazis took care of internal dissension with the help
> > of a "well placed bullet."
> You take care of dissension by lying your pants off.
Strange that Lord Haw-Haw cannot produce a single such lie.
> >
> > > But that doesn't interest our 'truth-seeking' journalist.
> > > Which shows that his statement about being in China to open people's
eyes to the truth to
> > > be utter poppycock.
> >
> > The account of my experiences teaching American journalism
> > in China were published in ScienceWriters, the newsletter of
> > the National Association of Science Writers. Anyone wanting
> > to read the article can go to
> > http://nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/goldfish.htm
> >
> > Lying Nazi scum are not invited.
> Andrew, the Chinese would not have allowed you in unless they viewed you
as loyal.
That's a lie.
> They hate dissent.
So do you.
> They even arranged for our police to prevent their leader from seeing
demonstrators
> when he visited our country recently. They arrest people for doing
exercises because they
> believe it poses a political threat.
And you beleive in killing people who politically dissent.
> > > Really? And what evidence do you, Mr Journalist, have that this person
was a 'Nazi
> > > comrade', or indeed any comrade, of mine?
> >
> > He spewed the same anti-Semitic hate and Nazi lies that you
> > spew.
> Which specific piece of 'anti-Semitic' hate did we both spew? Or are you
just telling lies
> again?
Nope. He4's referring to your statement that nazi propaganda about Jews
was "true-to-life."
> > He backed up his rhetoric with a gun. You use a
> > computer mouse. That's the only difference I see.
> A truly insignificant difference!
Not to the victims of those who follow your anti-Semitic philosophy.
> > Nazis like you have virtually canonized this murderous
> > bastard. They're calling him a "hero" and a "martyr" to
> > their cause.
> I haven't called him either. I'd call him a murderer.
Actaully when one nazi propagandist opined that it would be s shame if
"good but misguided" people like Smith went to jail, you agreed stating "You
hit the nail on the head." Rather than calling him a murderer, you agreed
that he was a "good, but misguided" person.
> > Notice that Herr Cuddles doesn't denounce the cowardly
> > murderer.
> Who says I don't?
You didn't. You agreed that he was a "good, but misguided" person.
Once again, Mr Skolnick doesn't have the talent to find any stories, so he
> just invents them.
Once again Lord Haw Haw tries to cover his butt by lying.
> For the record, I absolutely condemn such murders and advocate the
execution of those
> responsible.
For the record, you did not. Insted you agreed that he was a "good bu
misguided" person.
> > He just denies that there's any proof linking him
> > to the Nazi killer (a.k.a. "Great Man," "Martyr to His
> > People," etc.).
> Uh? Where?
See above.
> >
> > Herr Cuddles, you goose-step like that Nazi duck and you
> > quack like that Nazi duck.
> Comrade Skolnick, you excrete through your mouth.
So speaks an admitted nazi.
> > You may not shoot down unarmed
> > people like that Nazi duck, but you're hardly less evil; for
> > you spew the hate that spurs on such maniacs to commit
> > violent acts.
> No, Comrade Skolnick. I have not advocated hatred
Liar. You have stated that the nazi sterotype of Jews was
"true-to-life."
> and I do not actually feel much hatred
> against anyone. But that doesn't fit in with your view of the world, so
you have to invent
> stories rather than conveying the truth as journalists are supposed to do.
Strange that you have no evidence of such.
> > You're projecting. You're the one who champions the cause of
> > political murderers.
>
> Where? Cite your evidence.
In your post stating that the nazis had the right idea in killing
communists.
> Oh but you can't. You don't have any. You are lying yet again. Quelle
surprise.
I can. And it turns out that it is Lord Haw Haw who is lying again.
> > My record is clear, clean, and very
> > public.
> Your record is one of prejudging issues, spewing hatred and abuse at all
who oppose you,
> inventing stories instead of investigating the truth, and exhibiting a
level of paranoia that
> indicates a serious psychotic disturbance.
Liar. But note the technique of Lord Haw Haw, he makes a variety of
charges and does not provide evidence for a single one.
> >
> > > > In one of Cuddles Michael's screeds posted here before, you
> > > > can see how he defends mass political murders of Nazis. He
> > > > "completely supports" the Nazis' shooting political enemies
> > > > and "stringing" them "up from lampposts." And then urges us
> > > > to forget the "stories about corpses for a moment."
> > > >
> > >
> > > It seems that you were prepared to forget the corpses of the Cultural
Revolution for long
> > > enough to accept a lucrative post in China, you filthy little
hypocrite.
> >
> > Don't you ever run out of lies? I took a half-a-year leave
> > from my "lucrative" job to go to China to teach. In
> > addition, I spent about $6000 in various expenses to go. The
> > salary and travel expenses I received from the Chinese
> > university did not even cover my round-trip air fare.
>
> >
> > I did this to help open China's doors to western ideas and
> > ideals.
> Ah right. The Chinese government paid you a salary and travel expenses to
open their doors to
> Western ideas and ideals. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
OPrrove that they didn't Lord Haw Haw.
> And judging from your performance here, Comrade Skolnick, your notion of
Western ideas and
> ideals seems to consist of hurling abuse at your opponents (a Maoist
technique incidently),
> lying about what they believe, making up stories instead of investigating
the truth. Yes, I can
> see why the Communists were happy to pay you a salary.
More vicious smears from Lord Haw-Haw.
> > I inspired some students, angered others. One of my
> > students went on to get a Masters degree in communication
> > from Stanford University and he is now in the United States
> > working for a major Hong Kong newspaper.
> Yes, I've head about Hong Kong newspapers. The ones that dare not robustly
criticize the
> Chinese authorities.
> > Cuddles, you're not
> > morally fit enough to lick that young man's shoes. You much
> > rather snuff out the candle and curse the darkness. You're a
> > Nazi right down to your bones.
> Anyone who opposes the Great Revolution is a Nazi, right.
Wrong. Anyone who states about World War II: "There was a war. Your
side won. Our side lost." qualifies as a nazi.
> > I have no interest in your "views on economics."
> >
>
> You mean you can't invent some for me? Why not? You invent my views on
everything else!
Lord Haw-Haw's views are obvious to one and all.
>
> > I've written for many of the world's most respected
> > publications, but I doubt you've read any of them.
> People's Daily? News of the World?
More lies from Lord Haw Haw.
> > None of
> > them have either swastikas in their mastheads or photos of
> > bound, naked women.
> No, they are doubtless full of praise for the wonderful reforms in China,
and the wisdom of the
> current leadership of that country.
Then name one, liar.
> > The first victim of Nazi violence is not a man or woman, Jew
> > or gentile. It is the truth.
> The first victim of journalists like you is truth. You wouldn't recognize
truth if it ran up
> your trouser leg.
But he easily recognized you as a nazi.
> > > > And you know what happened to the last Nazis
> > > > who tried to subjugate the world.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yup. They're currently sitting in the White House and the Kremlin.
> >
> > David Cuddles Michael sure has a good grasp of world
> > history, doesn't he? He equates Bill Clinton with madmen
> > like Adolph Hitler, Himmler, Goering, Goebbels, Heydrich,
> > Eichman, Hess, and Mengele.
> I suspect that the people of Iraq would not find that as strange as you
do.
At last we come to a regime that Lord Haw Haw approves of.
> > Anybody else here interested in Cuddles' view of economics?
> > I thought not.
And, once more, you were right.
Yale F. Edeiken
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <383F18B0...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> > <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> > This is certainly one of the more idiotic things you've ever posted
here> >
> > Your own anti-Semitism is well-documented.
>
> Really? Then you can produce an example?
Sure;
"?I can see how the concerns about Jewish influence may have arisen, and
from my own fairly
recent encounter with the Jewish community, I must say that I am struck by
how true-to-life the
Nazi stereotype of the Jews seems to be. I think the problem, however, is
cultural rather than
genetic. I tend to strongly dislike most Jews whom I meet -- they are
arrogant, aggressive, dishonest people."
> > Simply because Mr. Skolnick
> > disagrees with you doesn't make him a Nazi. If anything, he is merely
> > guilty of definition of character.
> Ah, but Mr Skolnick produced a dictionary definition of the word 'Nazi'
that
> includes anyone who thinks or acts like a Nazi. I'd have thought that
includes
> him quite well.
The one it suits is Lord Haw Haw.
If the jack boots fit, Lord Haw Haw, goosestep in them.
Yale F. Edeiken
Ed Kadach <edd...@connect.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:383FF7...@connect.ab.ca...
> David E Michael wrote:
> > > Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so
special.
> > >
> > > Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp
as a
> > > dishrag.
> > I have publicly claimed that you have lied in a public forum. I have
publicly
> > opined that you are consequently not a fit and proper person to practise
law in
> > Pennsylvania. You have threatened to sue me. I have not heard a squeak
from any
> > court. Why not sir? Were you lying again?
> Of course Yale is lying. Yale is a pathological liar.
Another case will KKKadach will be called as a witness for the
Plaintiff.
Yale F. Edeiken
> Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> > > > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> > > >
> > > > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > > > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > > > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > > > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > > > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > > > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > > > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > > > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > > > must be condemned unreservedly.
> > > >
> > > > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> > > >
> > > > For the full article, see:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> > > >
> > > > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy
liar
> > > > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company
of
> > > > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > > > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > > > suit.
> >
> > > > "Fuch the world lets murder people." -- Matt Giwer, October 26, 1999
> >
> > > Why should I discourage you from making comments that can hardly cause
me
> > much
> > > financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty
> > tactics?
> > But although you can cause me no fiancial damage and have been
> > consistently exposed as an uscrupulous liar who tactics are are so
covered
> > with filth that they resemble a pile of shit.
> > Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so special.
> >
> > Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp
as a
> > dishrag.
> Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
You are a lying cocksucker Lord Haw-Haw. I never made any such
"threat." You made what you stated was a deliberately defamatory and
demanded that I sue you.
> You have not followed through.
You are a lying cocksycker, Lord Haw-Haw.
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT I HAVE NOT FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU.
Or are you demonstrating, once more, your inability to tell the truth on
any matter whatsoever.
> I have not threatened to sue Mr Morris.
Nor were you threatened by me, Lord Haw-Haw. In fact, you were the one
who threatened to sue me.
> I have no wish to sue him.
And, Lord Haw-Haw, contrary to your lies, I told you that I had no wish
to sue you.
You sent me an e-mail demanding that I sue you.
> The more he
> hurls lies and abuse at me, the dafter he makes his cause -- your cause --
> look. I incur no significant damage from such taunts.
And the same can be said about your vicious, baseless lies. But YOU
inisted on being sued that a person who did not had no rpersonal honor.
Now it's your turn.
> I have publicly claimed that you have lied in a public forum. I have
publicly
> opined that you are consequently not a fit and proper person to practise
law in
> Pennsylvania. You have threatened to sue me.
Liar. I never made any such threat.
Lord Haw-Haw keeps claiming that I did not sue him. He has yet to come
up with a single shred of evidence to back his claim. It is an admission
ion his part that his charges are fabrications made in reckless disregard of
the truth.
Just more proof that he is a lying cocksucker.
?
For a refutation of Tavish's lies about the Talmud and Judaism consult:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
John Morris
Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:11:07 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
<asko...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com> wrote:
>John Morris wrote:
>> In <383F3219...@stopmindspring.com> in alt.revisionism, on Fri,
>> 26 Nov 1999 19:21:29 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
>> <asko...@stopmindspring.com> wrote:
>> >"Yale F. Edeiken" wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> The fact is that you are a nazi. In your own words about World War II.
>> >> "There was a war. Your side won. Our side lost."
>> >> Not much doubt about your leanings.
allowed us to define the Holocaust as an act of war.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
--
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> He sure is one twisted, moral ignoramus. For centuries, the
> rules of war have prohibited, or at least frowned upon, the
> killing of non-combatants and captured soldiers. Killing
> enemy civilians who haven't surrendered is terrible enough
> -- both the Nazis and the Allies bombed cities and
> deliberately killed large numbers of civilians -- but the
> mass execution of CAPTURED civilians is a heinous war crime.
> That crime was perpetrated only by the Nazis.
That is false. After the war the British rounded up hundreds of thousands of Russian
emigres. They were then repatriated to Russia. They were not permitted to escape. Some
committed suicide rather than return. On their return, most were killed by Uncle Joe.
The incident is referred to briefly in a footnote in Solzhenitsyn's *Gulag Archipelago*
and is discussed in depth in Nikolai Tolstoi's *Victims of Yalta*.
More false news from the journalist who invents his truth.
David
David E Michael
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
>
> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send him
an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any court.
>
> You BEGGED Mr. Edeiken to sue you, and then complained when the American
> Legal System didn't fit YOUR view of what it should be.
>
Uh?
>
> In America, POLICE issue summonses. Lawyers do not.
>
You may well be correct but we have different legal systems. You'll see from
the link I gave earlier this evening that summonses are (sometimes) issued
in British civil courts.
>
> Sara
>
> --
> "I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center
> post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
> Jim Hightower
David
Philip Mathews
> David E Michael david.e...@btinternet.com wrote:
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
>> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
>>
>> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
>
>No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send him
>an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
>week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any court.
Exactly, you lied. He didn't threaten you. He acquiesced to your demand.
You are an inveterate liar.
David E Michael
Philip Mathews wrote:
> In >Message-id: <384099E9...@btinternet.com>
>
> > David E Michael david.e...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> >Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> >> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> >> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
> >>
> >> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
> >
> >No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send him
> >an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
> >week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any court.
>
> Exactly, you lied. He didn't threaten you. He acquiesced to your demand.
>
That was after he'd threatened me.
>
> You are an inveterate liar.
>
You are a boring troll.
>
> Philip Mathews
>
> "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing
> knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant
> than would take even a little trouble to acquire it." Samuel Johnson
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> Stalin and Hitler were allies during the early part of the
> war, until Hitler launched a sneak invasion into Russia.
> That forced Stalin to join the Allies.
Um . . . haven't you got your chronology a bit mixed up? There were no 'Allies' when Germany
invaded Russia for Stalin to join.
Another lie from the 'journalist' who invents his truth.
> Stalin was a butcher
> who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler.
And the British and Americans were his loyal allies.
> They're both
> rotting in Hell. Send them my regards when you get there,
> Cuddles.
>
Nah, I'll be waiting for you with my pitchfork sharpened.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
David
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
> David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > More false news from the journalist who invents his truth.
> >
> > David
>
Philip Mathews
>
>
>David E Michael david.e...@btinternet.com wrote:
>Philip Mathews wrote:
>
>> In >Message-id: <384099E9...@btinternet.com>
>>
>> > David E Michael david.e...@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>> >Sara Salzman wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
>> >> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
>> >>
>> >> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
>> >
>> >No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send
>him
>> >an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
>> >week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any
>court.
>>
>> Exactly, you lied. He didn't threaten you. He acquiesced to your demand.
>>
>
>That was after he'd threatened me.
No. You issued the intitial challenge, and continued to dare Yale to do
something.
>
>>
>> You are an inveterate liar.
>>
>
>You are a boring troll.
You are still an inveterate liar.
Stick to your rehearsed speeches!
David E Michael
Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
Ahem. The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled a fast one on) Stalin. The
Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
> He never would have joined the Allies
> had Hitler not invaded the Soviet Union.
>
What Allies were there when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Andrew?
> Only a lying crackpot like Cuddles would deny the
> relationship between these events.
>
>
> > > Stalin was a butcher
> > > who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler.
> >
> > And the British and Americans were his loyal allies.
>
> Hardly. Stalin was forced to switch sides after Hitler's
> treacherous invasion.
Switch sides? There were only two sides at the time: Stalin's and Hitler's.
> Until then, there was much animosity
> between the Soviets and the British and Americans.
>
Actually, not so much as you might think. Read A.K. Chesterton's *New Unhappy Lords*.
>
> > > They're both
> > > rotting in Hell. Send them my regards when you get there,
> > > Cuddles.
>
> > Nah, I'll be waiting for you with my pitchfork sharpened.
>
> I have no doubt. Nazis like you would probably be given jobs
> as guards in Hell.
>
And journalists like you would probably be given jobs as journalists down there.
>
> -- Andrew Skolnick
David
David E Michael
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <384099E9...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> >> In article <383F560E...@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> >> <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Mr Edeiken, sir, you have threatened to sue me.
> >>
> >> Yet ANOTHER lie from Mr. Michael.
> >
> >No, if you look back through deja.com he actually said that if I'd send him
> >an email asking him to sue me he'd 'file a complaint' by the end of the
> >week. That was two weeks ago. So far I've heard not a squeak from any court.
> >
> >>
> >> You BEGGED Mr. Edeiken to sue you, and then complained when the American
> >> Legal System didn't fit YOUR view of what it should be.
> >>
> >
> >Uh?
> >
> >>
> >> In America, POLICE issue summonses. Lawyers do not.
> >>
> >
> >You may well be correct but we have different legal systems. You'll see from
> >the link I gave earlier this evening that summonses are (sometimes) issued
> >in British civil courts.
> >
>
> The point is, you made a derogatory comment about Mr. Edeiken's ability as
> an AMERICAN lawyer simply because he stated that a summons was not in
> order.
>
No -- with respect, you've not been reading the threads. I made a derogatory
comment about Mr Edeiken's suitability to practise as a lawyer in Pennsylvania
given that he has lied in public.
>
> I think you need to step back and decide WHAT you're talking about.
>
I am talking about two things: Mr Edeiken's suitability to practise as a lawyer,
and his apparently dishonest threat to sue me.
David Christian
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote :
Well, you're either too damn lazy to do any basic research, or you're lying
your ass off.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm
Aug 23, 1939 - Nazis and Soviets sign Pact.
Aug 25, 1939 - Britain and Poland sign a Mutual Assistance Treaty.
Aug 31, 1939 - British fleet mobilizes; Civilian evacuations begin from
London.
Sept 1, 1939 - Nazis invade Poland.
Sept 3, 1939 - Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand declare war on
Germany.
June 28, 1940 - Britain recognizes Gen. Charles de Gaulle as the Free
French leader.
Note that anti-nazi alliances were being formed in 1939 and 1940.
THEN:
June 22, 1941 - Germany attacks Soviet Union as Operation Barbarossa
begins.
July 12, 1941 - Mutual Assistance agreement between British and Soviets.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Free thought, neccessarily involving freedom of
speech and press, I may tersely define thus:no
opinion a law-no opinion a crime.
Alexander Berkman
Andrew A. Skolnick
I'm sure you wish that. It would have been easier for your
Fuehrer to conquer the world if the Allies didn't exist. But
according to my history books (not all were written by
Jooos, by the way), the United States existed since about
1783. The United Kingdom and France are many centuries
older. Canada, Australia, and other Allies are also
centuries old. It appears Cuddles is competing with Matthias
Giwer for sci.skeptic's world history nincompoop award.
> The Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
Right. Just after they came into existence. Duh.
You really are a total revisionist (that's a fancy word for
liar).
After signing a pack, Stalin and Hitler invaded Poland in
Sept. 1939. Stalin also invaded Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia,
and Latvia, while Hitler invaded western European countries.
In Sept. 1939, Great Britain, France, and Canada, the first
of the Allies, declared war on Germany. In 1940, Denmark,
Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece, Romania, and Yugoslavia
joined the Allies when they were invaded by Nazi Germany.
While Hitler was dining on western Europe Stalin was carving
up the eastern parts for himself.
The following year, in June 1941, Hitler stabbed his partner
in mass murder in the back and launched a surprise invasion
of the Soviet Union. Quickly switching sides, Stalin signed
an assistance agreement with Great Britain in July 1941.
Five months later, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany
declared war against the United States, bringing in the
United States into the war on the side of the Allies --
although the U.S. was already supporting the allies with
arms, food, ships, and supplies.
> > He never would have joined the Allies
> > had Hitler not invaded the Soviet Union.
> >
>
> What Allies were there when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Andrew?
Perhaps you've heard of Great Britain, France, Canada,
Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Norway? I guess
not.
>
> > Only a lying crackpot like Cuddles would deny the
> > relationship between these events.
> >
> >
> > > > Stalin was a butcher
> > > > who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler.
> > >
> > > And the British and Americans were his loyal allies.
> >
> > Hardly. Stalin was forced to switch sides after Hitler's
> > treacherous invasion.
> Switch sides? There were only two sides at the time: Stalin's and Hitler's.
What a maroon! Much of London, Liverpool, Manchester and
other cities in England were in ruins from German bombing.
Denmark, Norway, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands,
Greece, Romania, and Yugoslavia were invaded by Germany
before Hitler invaded Russia. And this moral and mental
midget insists that the only war going on at the time was
between Hitler and Stalin.
Hey, Cuddles, have you been sneaking some of Giwer's Sterno?
> > Until then, there was much animosity
> > between the Soviets and the British and Americans.
> Actually, not so much as you might think. Read A.K. Chesterton's *New Unhappy Lords*.
Right. Chortle. The United States had only invaded the
Soviet Union in an attempt to over throw the Communist
government. No animosity over that.
Face it Cuddles, you are no match for Matt Giwer. His
revisionist view of world history is far more entertaining.
Like when 25 million Canadians woke up one morning to learn
that the Sterno King had declared Canada part of Great
Britain.
To paraphrase Lincoln's defense of Gen. Grant: Find out what
brand of high octane fuel Giwer drinks and give it to the
rest of the Nazis. It looks like Cuddles may already be
helping himself to some of Giwer's kickapoo joy fuel.
-- Andrew Skolnick
Tavish
a drink from a bottle of wine he\she had just uncorked. Jews afterall, if they are
good observant Pharisees, will not drink wine that has been opened or handled
after being opened by a non-Jew.
Click these links to see about wine and non-Jews:
http://x29.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=552812652&fmt=text
"Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can....."
http://x27.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=552808851&fmt=text
"L'Chaim Weekly - Shemot -- RamBam Wine Touched by non-Jew"
http://x27.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=552810361&fmt=text
"Vedibarta Bam - Mikeitz - Chanukah -- Not Drink Wine Touched by non-Jew"
http://x27.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=552395032&fmt=text
"Examples of How Jewish Teachings Imply that Gentiles are Defiled or Unclean"
From the Bible- attitudes Jews had\have toward non-Jews:
Acts 10:28 (English-NIV)
"He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to
associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should
not call any man impure or unclean." Apostle Peter
The Catholic New American Bible renders the verse the same as well.
John 4:7-10 (English-KJV)
7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her,
Give me to drink.
8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a
Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have
no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and
who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him,
and he would have given thee living water.
John 18:28-29 (English-NIV)
28 Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman
governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness
the Jews did not enter the palace; they wanted to be able to eat the Passover.
29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, "What charges are you bringing
against this man?"
To this very day a true observing Pharasaic Jew has the same exact mental
mindset. Watch them deny the truth when exposed but put them to the test
with a bottle of wine and you'll "nail them" every time!
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
John Morris
Nov 1999 14:12:32 +0000, David E Michael
<david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
[snip]
>> No, you nitwit. Because Hitler betrayed Stalin and broke
>> their pack between USSR and Nazi Germany, Stalin was forced
>> to join the Allies.
>Ahem. The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled a fast one on) Stalin. The
>Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
You mean Britain and France weren't allied before the fall of France?
You the mean Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia, and
South Africa weren't allied to Britain?
So when the US Navy started escorting British convoys in the North
Atlantic after May 1940, they weren't really allies yet?
So when the United States passed the Lend-Lease Act in March 1941
which allowed the President to supply arms to Britain, they weren't
really allies yet?
[snip]
Charles R Ward
<doc_t...@NOSPAMdanetwork.com> wrote:
> I just wonder how many Gentiles would be offended if Jews were to decline
This is the second time I've seen this tonight. It does not in any
way follow the post it follows. Spam anyone?
How was your weekend in Germany?
Charles R Ward
Gord McFee
10:09:45 -0600, "Andrew A. Skolnick"
<asko...@stopNazi.spam.mindspring.com> wrote:
David is doing a "pretentious ass" troll based on the fact that the
Allies, as a name, didn't technically exist until January 1942. "The
Allies" is the name given to the nations who composed the United Nations
coalition, which was founded on that date.
In other words, the pretentious ass and hardcore antisemite is trolling
you.
Gord McFee
+0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Andrew A. Skolnick wrote:
[deleted]
> > > > Stalin and Hitler were allies during the early part of the
> > > > war, until Hitler launched a sneak invasion into Russia.
> > > > That forced Stalin to join the Allies.
> > >
> > > Um . . . haven't you got your chronology a bit mixed up? There were no 'Allies' when Germany
> > > invaded Russia for Stalin to join.
> >
> > > Another lie from the 'journalist' who invents his truth.
> >
> > No, you nitwit. Because Hitler betrayed Stalin and broke
> > their pack between USSR and Nazi Germany, Stalin was forced
> > to join the Allies.
>
> Ahem. The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled a fast one on) Stalin. The
> Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
Nice one David. The Allies existed; they just weren't called the Allies
yet. They didn't begin to be called that until January 1942 when the
United Nations were founded. But there were certainly countries allied
against the Axis, and you knew that. You are cute by half.
By the way, please don't try the "United nations didn't exist in 1942"
line. We both know they did _as a coalition by that name_. The
organization was founded in 1946.
You are such a pretentious ass.
> > He never would have joined the Allies
> > had Hitler not invaded the Soviet Union.
>
> What Allies were there when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Andrew?
See above, pretentious ass.
> > Only a lying crackpot like Cuddles would deny the
> > relationship between these events.
> >
> > > > Stalin was a butcher
> > > > who was cut from the same cloth as Hitler.
> > >
> > > And the British and Americans were his loyal allies.
> >
> > Hardly. Stalin was forced to switch sides after Hitler's
> > treacherous invasion.
>
> Switch sides? There were only two sides at the time: Stalin's and Hitler's.
Wrong, as always.
[deleted]
Gord McFee
+0000, David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Thank you for making the point about the Allies that I was going to make if you hadn't made it first.
I made the point because it is the truth, something with which you
should associate yourself from time to time. That does not change the
fact that your little trick was cute by half and a juvenile troll.
Sara Salzman
(Charles R Ward) wrote:
Charles:
I suggest your forward Doc's off-topic drivel and spam to ab...@flash.net.
I do.
Yale F. Edeiken
David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:384139EB...@btinternet.com...
> Sara Salzman wrote:
> > The point is, you made a derogatory comment about Mr. Edeiken's ability
as
> > an AMERICAN lawyer simply because he stated that a summons was not in
> > order.
> No -- with respect, you've not been reading the threads. I made a
derogatory
> comment about Mr Edeiken's suitability to practise as a lawyer in
Pennsylvania
> given that he has lied in public.
Which is now the subject of a lawsuit.
> > I think you need to step back and decide WHAT you're talking about.
> I am talking about two things: Mr Edeiken's suitability to practise as a
lawyer,
> and his apparently dishonest threat to sue me.
I made no such threat. You are a lying cocksucker.
In fact, I stated that I had no intention of suing you. Instead you
insisted that you wanted to be sued.
Your fraudulent claim is just another wiggle.
David E Michael
Gord McFee wrote:
Thank you for making the point about the Allies that I was going to make if you hadn't made it first.
David
Avital Pilpel
> >Ahem. The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled a fast one on) Stalin. The
> >Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
>
> You mean Britain and France weren't allied before the fall of France?
> You the mean Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia, and
> South Africa weren't allied to Britain?
He means that Hitler DID invade the Saar, Rhineland, Sudetenland,
Chekoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Greece, Cyprus, Holland, Belgium,
USSR, Norway and Hungary - but it was all a). Perfectly legal and
non-agressive, and b). THEIR fault anyway.
Avital Pilpel
Andrew A. Skolnick
ludicrous ass of himself on these newsgroups claiming that
the Allies had joined the Soviet Union in the war against
Nazi Germany, and that the Allies didn't even exist until
after Hitler invaded Russia?
It's hard to believe such a self-lauded "historian" would
make these absurd claims. But here they are his own words:
> The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled
> a fast one on) Stalin.
> What Allies were there when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Andrew?
Herr Cuddles pretends he never heard of Great Britain,
France, Canada,
Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, or Norway.
When I said that Stalin was forced to switch sides after
Hitler's treacherous invasion -- that Stalin never would
have joined the Allies if Russia hadn't been invaded --
sci.skeptic's Lord Haw-Haw decided to rewrite the history of
the world:
> Switch sides? There were only two sides at the time:
> Stalin's and Hitler's.
> The Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
Yes, Lord Haw-Haw is quite a maroon: Much of London,
Liverpool, Manchester and other cities in England were in
ruins from German bombing. Denmark, Norway, France, Belgium,
Luxembourg, Netherlands, Greece, Romania, and Yugoslavia
were already invaded by Germany before Hitler turned on
Russia.
But why would the Nazi apologist post such stupid and easily
discredited statements?
To make "history" fit his Nazi apologist argument that
Churchill made a mistake by entering the war on Stalin's
side rather than Hitler's.
When Nazis armies had overrun almost all of western Europe
and Nazi planes were turning much of England's cities to
ruins, Hitler's Russian ally was busy gobbling up eastern
Europe. Hitler and Stalin had a pact for the mutual rape of
Europe. However, when most of the Allies were overrun by the
Nazi armies, Hitler turned on Stalin and invaded Russia.
Stalin had no choice but to join the Allies in the war
against Nazi Germany.
Sorry Lord Haw-Haw, it seems Churchill and the British
people were a bit too busy ducking German bombs to consider
joining Hitler's conquest of the world.
-- Andrew Skolnick
-- Andrew Skolnick
steve wolk
>
> > Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>
> > > > > Here is part of David E. Michael's devastating critique of Nazism:
> > > > >
> > > > > Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may,
> > > > > at times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality.
> > > > > This in no way detracts from the fact that their enemies
> > > > > clearly did likewise, and I do not lose sight of the fact that
> > > > > there was a war on, that 'war is war' and 'these things happen',
> > > > > or that there was a strong degree of disorganization, panic and
> > > > > resentment at times. Nevertheless, such behaviour is quite
> > > > > inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have occurred, it
> > > > > must be condemned unreservedly.
> > > > >
> > > > > And I've heard that the Grand Canyon is a hole in the ground.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the full article, see:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.deja.com/=gh/getdoc.xp?AN=390244357
> > > > >
> > > > > Readers can see for themselves that David E. Michael is a scummy
> liar
> > > > > who lies about his Nazi sympathies and who is unfit for the company
> of
> > > > > decent people. Even though he says he has the power to issue
> > > > > summonses (lol!), he is too cowardly to contradict me with a libel
> > > > > suit.
> > >
> > >
> me
> > > much
> > > > financial damage and that merely show your own dishonesty and dirty
> > > tactics?
>
> > > But although you can cause me no fiancial damage and have been
> > > consistently exposed as an uscrupulous liar who tactics are are so
> covered
> > > with filth that they resemble a pile of shit.
>
> > > Why the difference, Lord Haw-Haw. What makes your filth so special.
> > >
> > > Or is it just another demonstration that your backbone is as limp
> as a
> > > dishrag.
>
>
As if more was needed.
Steve
>
> ?
> For a refutation of Tavish's lies about the Talmud and Judaism consult:
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
>
John Morris
sci.skeptic, on Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:00:50 -0500, Avital Pilpel
<ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, John Morris wrote:
>> >Ahem. The ALLIES DID NOT EXIST when Hitler 'betrayed' (i.e pulled a fast one on) Stalin. The
>> >Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
>> You mean Britain and France weren't allied before the fall of France?
>> You the mean Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia, and
>> South Africa weren't allied to Britain?
>He means that Hitler DID invade the Saar, Rhineland, Sudetenland,
>Chekoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Greece, Cyprus, Holland, Belgium,
>USSR, Norway and Hungary - but it was all a). Perfectly legal and
>non-agressive, and b). THEIR fault anyway.
Actually, he has said something along those lines, except that he
blames Britain for not giving a Hitler a free hand and allying
themselves with Hitler against the Soviet Union.
He believes that the Jews would have been better off as the British
would have restrained Nazi excesses against the Jews which he doesn't
concede occurred anyway.
In answer to your next question, yes, he is a lunatic.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
--
Chuck Stewart
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, John Morris wrote:
>
> > >Allies joined Stalin, not the other way around.
> >
> > You the mean Commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia, and
> > South Africa weren't allied to Britain?
>
> He means that Hitler DID invade the Saar, Rhineland, Sudetenland,
> Chekoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Greece, Cyprus, Holland, Belgium,
> USSR, Norway and Hungary - but it was all a). Perfectly legal and
> non-agressive, and b). THEIR fault anyway.
I've noticed that again and again...
These poor examples of humanity always seem to follow the classic
"abuser" syndrome.
Always.
And they always end up blaming the victim of their abuse for their
abusive tendencies..
I very much pity any spouses or children of these assholes.
Even if they are spared physical abuse, constant exposure to this
crap surely constitutes mental abuse.
> Avital Pilpel
--
Chuck Stewart
"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?"
William Daffer
(snip)
> > He means that Hitler DID invade the Saar, Rhineland, Sudetenland,
> > Chekoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Greece, Cyprus, Holland, Belgium,
> > USSR, Norway and Hungary - but it was all a). Perfectly legal and
> > non-agressive, and b). THEIR fault anyway.
>
> I've noticed that again and again...
>
> These poor examples of humanity always seem to follow the classic
> "abuser" syndrome.
>
> Always.
>
> And they always end up blaming the victim of their abuse for their
> abusive tendencies..
>
> I very much pity any spouses or children of these assholes.
>
Amen brother, just look at Goebbels spouse and children.
(snip)
whd
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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx.