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raba...@my-dejanews.com

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Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland

February 24, 1999

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

There is this Nizkor fellow, Danny Keren, nicknamed Kerensky the Pompous,
well known to Revisionist cyberfighters for his mindless tenacity in
repeating himself over and over again, replete with snide and supercilious
asides - as in this one, directed at one ASMarques, whom we proudly call
our own:

Keren(sky):

This is clearly what the court said. I can only advise you to learn to
read; no offense intended, but it becomes more and more apparent that you
simply cannot read a short, simple, straightforward paragraph, and
understand it.

Here is the paragraph, yet again (with the crucial portions underlined, in
yet another attempt to help you):

David Thomas, another one of our own:

Daniel, this is an excellent example of one of the more egregious parts of
what you do in your dogmatic determination never to agree with one of the
demons you perceive in your fantasy world of Nazi hordes lurking in the
shadows, waiting to burst forth and establish the Fourth Reich on the
prostrate corpses of your loved ones.

Anyone who's participated in conversations with Marques becomes quickly
aware that the boy is no dull carving knife. He is possessed of a rapier
wit and intellect which can run laughing circles (of amusement, not
derision) around you if you get stuffy with him.

Your childish accusation of his being unable to "read a short simple
paragraph, and understand it" would be false for the majority of people on
the Internet, and in the case of Mr. Marques it is ludicrously so. You,
sir, are not in his league. Mike Stein might give him a good run, but you
ought not even try, it makes you look like, well...like what you are. A
good, dedicated dogmatist with an average mind and little imagination or
humor, all locked in a narrow tunnel of vision.

The fact of the current matter is that you have attempted, in what for you
is a typical fashion, to present selective quotes to make a valid point
that is strongly exaggerated by what you leave out. Marques has attempted
to drag the rest of the text out of you and discuss the overall meaning,
and you've played dumb (or maybe been sincere, I don't know) every step of
the way, casting slurs while making a verbal ass of yourself. I am not
sure who you think this is impressing, but your ring of admirers is going
to consist mostly of your fellow liturgical police. To the great majority
of readers you will come across as something between boring and irritating.

If I believe what I say, and I do, then why would I let you in on the
secret that you're your own worst enemy? Shouldn't I be content to watch in
silent amusement as you shoot yourself first in one foot, then the other,
and repeat the process endlessly, becoming an Internet joke, a mindless
crier on a soapbox in Times Square? After all, isn't it true that what I'm
after is to humiliate and otherwise bring discredit and harm to Jews in any
way that I can, the same as all other revisionists?

Well there's the rub, you see. That last (and Lord I can already see it
quoted out of context....groan) is your fantasy and has nothing at all to
do with what I do and why. I believe sincerely that I, along with a goodly
number of others, have identified a great social travesty in operation, one
that if continued will result in severe and needless strife. A genuine
historical tragedy has been hijacked, cloaked in the shrouds of mummery,
and used to venal ends by cynics and opportunists who are aided mightily by
the emotionally gullible such as yourself. You have no need to be ashamed,
there are millions just like you. The mummers have done their job well,
very well.

But my beef is not with you or the host of well intended but deluded folks
like you. My beef is not with any person, it is with the fact that a
religion which should be limited to its originating culture is being
imposed on me and the entire Western world by scurrilous means, including
the horribly misapplied police functions of states. All that I would like
to see happen is for people who know better to stop tolerating this
emotional and worse blackmail that makes a prisoner of free intellectual
inquiry, and pariahs or criminals of those who dare speak out about the
sham. Once freedom of inquiry is allowed, the rest will take care of itself
and I can state ahead of time that the outcome will be satisfactory to me
because I trust in the ruthless efficiency with which unbridled
intellectual freedom can find the truth.

Endless arguments with true believers do nothing to further this end, they
only waste the time and energy of all involved. That is why I tried for so
long to appeal to any sense of honesty or shame or whatever motivator might
bring you and people like you far enough off your end-justifies-the-means
and shut-my-ears-to-the-siren-song-of-the-devil behavior to establish just
a little common ground, to acknowledge a shared humanity and perception -
from there perhaps to discover more that's mutually agreeable, come finally
to an intellectually and ethically acceptable agreement on this matter and
then all go on to better things, of which there are very many with so
little time to experience them.

We sit here hitting each other in the head with verbal hammers while life
passes us by. That's a shame, but so are other things. <end>

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DeppityBob

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>
>
>Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland
>
>February 24, 1999
>
>Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

And when I think of all the credibility the Zilchosite has, I simply tremble
with despair.

In other words, flushed down the ol' Sabatini.

Dep

"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
--David Mamet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html

David

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DeppityBob wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland
> >
> >February 24, 1999
> >
> >Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
>
> And when I think of all the credibility the Zilchosite has, I simply tremble
> with despair.
>
> In other words, flushed down the ol' Sabatini.
>
> Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
> --David Mamet
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html


Interesting that YOU should use the word 'credibility'.

David

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William Daffer

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David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:

> DeppityBob wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland
> > >
> > >February 24, 1999
> > >
> > >Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
> >
> > And when I think of all the credibility the Zilchosite has, I simply tremble
> > with despair.
> >
> > In other words, flushed down the ol' Sabatini.
> >
> > Dep
> >
> > "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
> > --David Mamet
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> > http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>
>
> Interesting that YOU should use the word 'credibility'.
>
> David


Funny. I was thinking exactly the same about you.

whd

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William Daffer

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raba...@my-dejanews.com writes:

> Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland
>
> February 24, 1999
>
> Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
>

Hey Ed.

Have you learned to spell Rabelais yet?

"I drink not to assuage thirst, but to forestall it. Therefore, I
drink in perpetuity."

Your, correctly spelled, namesake.

Alex Vange

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Alt-revisionism is under a spamming attack because some people fear
what is being said on it. The internet is the only place that is really
free of censorship and where people can say what they think even if others
condemn their "heresy". In many countries people are simply arrested and
given long prison sentances for questioning the "holocaust".

The "holocaust" is a proven hoax. During the war the Germans locked up
the Jews for the same reason that America locked up the Japanese. At the
end of the war there was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease
and starvation because Germany was being bombed to rubble. The stories of
gas chambers and extermination plans are not true. We are told these
stories because the Jews control the media. The real holocaust was when the
communist Jews killed millions of Christians.

Those who fear discussion of this subject are doing all they can to
stop this newsgroup. One example that would be discussed on it is that
there are no German documents that tell about any extermination plan.

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians would
quarrel over just what happened"

The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan.

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken from
delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed from a
delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have been used
and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical testing of the
control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050 mg/kg, a very heavy
concentration. The conditions at areas from which these samples were taken
are identical with those of the control sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only
Kremas IV and V differed, in the respect that these locations had sunlight
(the buildings have been torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction
of uncomplexed cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar
and brick and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a
very stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level (1mg/kg); 6.7
mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense of any consequential
readings at any of the tested locations as compared to the control sample
reading 1050 mg/kg supports the evidence that these facilities were not
execution gas chambers. The small quantities detected would indicate that
at some point these buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the
buildings at all these facilities"

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William Daffer wrote:
>
> David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>
> > DeppityBob wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Copyright (c) 1999 - Ingrid A. Rimland
> > > >
> > > >February 24, 1999
> > > >
> > > >Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
> > >
> > > And when I think of all the credibility the Zilchosite has, I simply tremble
> > > with despair.
> > >
> > > In other words, flushed down the ol' Sabatini.
> > >
> > > Dep
> > >
> > > "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
> > > --David Mamet
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> > > http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
> >
> >
> > Interesting that YOU should use the word 'credibility'.
> >
> > David
>
> Funny. I was thinking exactly the same about you.
>
> whd
>
> --
> My mail address has been mangled by my mailer. Send replies to...
> daf...@primenet.com
>
> --
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend
> Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
> Groucho Marx.

News to me that you were thinking at all.

David

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William Daffer

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David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:


Not surprised.

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