Attention-Bradbury The Lazy Bum
Black Knight
with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
the keyboard, Moby
Bum?
Tavish
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
>with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
>the keyboard, Moby
>Bum?
Once again personal attacks coming from a person who claims the be a Republican
and claims to be a conservative. You prove you are a liar because you prove
false to your claims.
>http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
That is the same site Yale F. Edeiken formerly espoused. What I quoted was NOT
Nazi propaganda and as I have stated-- its from the Talmud and Talmudists. You
have not shown any part of any of my archives which emanate from the real German
Nazis of the 1930s nor those who your kind call Nazis now.
Once again:
>I really had not seen you lie before. I thought you
>really believed that Nazi propaganda about the Talmud.
Nazi propaganda about the Talmud? Now you are lying! Show in any of these
archives where I quoted Nazis. I quoted the Talmud itself and what Talmudists
have written regarding it.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=e37fdtoe5iubsad7h9se3avk00cubg6gd7%404ax.com&rnum=2
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Subject: Bestiality and the Jewish Talmud - Doc Tavish Battles it Out With Two
Neo-Pharisees
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Subject: What The Jewish Talmud Is and Three Example Discussions Quoted From It
(Their Very Own Words Too!). R_07
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:21:53 -0600
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Subject: Child Molestation and the Jewish Talmud - Doc Tavish Battles it Out
With Neo-Pharisees R CF
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Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:36:09 GMT
donawana
>"Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>news:594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com...
>> Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
>> with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
>> the keyboard, Moby
>> Bum?
>>
>>
>Nigger, Do you ever shut up? Sounds like you need the Doc Martin dental
>plan.
>
you sound like you need a little urban discipline.
Ray Seltz
> Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
> with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
> the keyboard, Moby
> Bum?
Those "chubby fingers" come in handy spreading baby powder over Bruno
Eckhardt's naked, chubby cheeks.
Tavish
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>
Name calling and personal attacks only reflects on you Art and you show that you
can't hold your own using facts and logic. ANYONE can make the type replies you
make because personal attacks really don't require much thought.
Here is some real intolerant bigotry and imagine the outcries the lefties would
make if the defining terms were altered; I.E. Jew was replaced with "White" and
non-Jew was replaced with "non-White." There isn't anything worse than religious
bigotry! It is one thing that people may interpret a passage different than its
intent BUT it is quite another when such as what follows is taught and adhered
to by many Jews (not all Jews adhere to these teachings fortunately):
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
All links active January 20, 2003 unless otherwise stated.
http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened."
http://www.lf2.cuni.cz/listserv/ahoj-l/199905/msg00141.html
Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
From: doc_t...@bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Subject: Non-Jew Can't Pour Wine for a Jew -- Only a Fellow Jew Can!
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:31:11 GMT
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Highlights to look for:
" We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non Jew
after the seal of the bottle has been opened.."
" Boiled wine is really for use when a non-Jew would be in the
position of pouring a cup for a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be
an issue, as your cup should be poured by a fellow Jew at the table."
From: David S. Maddison <madd...@power.connexus.net.au>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Kosher Wine Questions
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:54:15 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
In article <01bdeceb$0d4901c0$312d...@jbc.san.rr.com>,
"JC" <jco...@san.rr.com> wrote:
[..]
> > Would the boiled wine of yesterday be treated the same as the pasteurized
> > juice of today (which is what grape juices is)?
>
> Boiled is mevushel wine. Yes, it is the same but it also includes many
> wines. Most of the commonly available kosher wines are mevushel, like
> Manischevitz. I would suspect, for that reason, most seders use boiled
> wine. Boiled wine is really for use when a non-Jew would be in the
> position of pouring a cup for a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be an
> issue, as your cup should be poured by a fellow Jew at the table. But I
> haven't heard of a specific prohibition. Never heard of smoked wine. By
> sweet wine, the analogy might be to fortified wines, which would be
> prohibited.
[..]
As I understand it, the requirements for wine that is not rendered
treif by handling by non-Jews relate to the suitability of that wine
for use in idol worship (avodah zarah). If the wine is not suitable
for idol worship and it is kosher in the first place, then it is not
rendered treif by being handled by non-Jews. The reason for this is
simply that in ancient times, idol worship was extremely common among
non-Jews and therefore there is a good chance that the wine could
have been dedicated to idols before being given to Jews.
Wine which was either boiled (mevushal) or had herbs added to it
(mevushin) was not considered suitable for idol worship, therefore
such wine could be drunk by Jews, if originally kosher.
AFAIK, kosher mevushin wine is quite rare, most kosher wine is
mevushal.
As usual, CYLOR if you have any halachic questions.
David Maddison
~~~~~END~~~~~
Notice the discrimination and bigotry in this: " Boiled wine is really
for use when a non-Jew would be in the position of pouring a cup for
a Jew. At the seder, that shouldn't be an issue, as your cup should
be poured by a fellow Jew at the table."? Tavish
Boiled wine isn't even considered fit for a Jew to drink according to
an article the B'nai B'rith has published! Look for: "...cooked wine
is far less palatable and no one would want to use it. "
>From B'nai B'rith (Mother of ADL):
http://bnaibrith.org/ijm/articles/wine/index.html
(Link no longer active.)
Vineyard Vanguard:
The new taste of a well-aged tradition
By Joseph Berkofsky
[ ... ] (Excerpt used for "educational" purposes]
Like all other kosher food or drink, kosher wine cannot contain any
unkosher animal or fish products; to be kosher for Passover, it must
also not come in contact with any leavened grains.
But the law regarding wine extracts another, more pressing, demand: It
cannot be handled by non-Jews.
The roots of this law reach back to the ancient Land of Israel where,
to prevent Jews from drinking wines used in idol worship, Jewish law
forbade Jews to touch wine that had been moved in an open vessel by
non-Jews, since it was likely used as a wave offering. The rabbis
later went further in battling assimilation, declaring any wine
handled by a non-Jew unfit to drink.
Today, in order to ensure that a wine meets all the kashrut
requirements, the entire winemaking process from grape-crushing to
bottling is overseen by trained, Sabbath-observant Jews, or
mashgichim, who handle all flow of the wine. And, as Ben Welton, a
mashgiach for St. Supery and others, can attest, this kind of kosher
supervision can mean as much toil as Torah.
With help from nearby non-Jewish winery workers, mashgichim operate
cranes to unload the grapes from trucks after the fall harvest. They
run the crushers which break the grapes, and pipe the crushed grapes
and juice into steel tanks. And they oversee the rest of the process
from fermentation, when yeast converts the grape's sugar into alcohol,
to filtering the wine and moving it into oak barrels to be aged.
At times, says Welton, this is dizzying work - literally. Not too long
ago, he recalls, he had to dig heavy heaps of stems from a huge
fermentation tank at St. Supery - while wearing a lifeline to show
that he was not inhaling too much alcohol vapor.
Peak season for mashgichim like Welton is between August and January,
when most of the winemaking occurs. And, although a mashgiach need not
be on premises other than when the wine is being moved through the
process, mashgichim will occassionally return to inspect the wine as
it ages to ensure that it has not been touched by non-Jews.
But those wineries that wish to involve non-Jews in the process can
tap into a Talmudic ruling that makes this possible.
Rabbinic authorities decreed that wine, even if touched by non-Jews,
was fit for Jewish use so long as it was mevushal, or cooked. The idea
was, in part, that cooked wine is far less palatable and no one would
want to use it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html
[ ... ]
... Wine, more than any other food or drink, represents the holiness
and separateness of the Jewish people.
It is used for the sanctification of Shabbat and Yom Tovand at Jewish
simchot. In the Beit Hamikdash wine was poured upon the Altar together
with the sacrifice. However, since wine was and still is used in many
forms of idolatrous worship, it has a unique status in Jewish Law,
which places extra restrictions on the making and handling of wine.
This includes wine used for non ceremonial purposes.
The production and handling of kosher wine must be done exclusively by
Jews. Wine, grape juice, and all products containing wine or grape
juice must remain solely in Jewish hands during the manufacturing
process and also after the seal of the bottle has been opened.
We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non Jew
after the seal of the bottle has been opened.
[ ... ]
<End of CUNI Archive>
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Subject: Examples of How Jewish Teachings Imply that non-Jews are Defiled or
Unclean --- (their Own Words and Teachings) R_17
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Date: 21 Jan 2002 22:22:35 GMT
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In Memory of Rabbi Dov Ber Rosenblum z''l
a dedicated Torah scholar whose greatest love was the study and
clarification of Halacha
Food Preparations, Part One vol.2 no.10
In an effort to limit social mingling with our gentile neighbors and
the intermarriage which might result, our sages prohibited eating food
cooked by gentiles, even if all ingredients are kosher and the food is
cooked in a kosher vessel while under the watchful eye of a Jewish
supervisor.
Such food is referred to in Hebrew as bishul nochri or bishul akum. It
is particularly important to bear this issue in mind if one has a
non-Jewish housekeeper or attendant who takes part in household food
preparation.
When establishing this prohibition, the sages excluded foods which
would have been fully edible prior to the cooking process. Therefore,
pasteurization of milk and juice, though typically done by non-Jews,
presents no bishul nochri problem. Some authorities use this exclusion
as the justification for the common practice to drink coffee or tea
cooked by a gentile. These drinks can be viewed as basically being
flavored water. As water is drinkable prior to any cooking, water and
by extension coffee and tea, are exempted from this prohibition. Other
examples within this category would be most fruit and those vegetables
which could be eaten raw.
Another category excluded from this prohibition is that of foods that
are not dignified enough to be served on shulchan melachim - literally
the table of kings or practically, as a dish at a fancy dinner.
Accordingly, if for example, a bowl of oatmeal was cooked by a
non-Jewish housekeeper, the bishul nochri prohibition does not apply.
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a dedicated Torah scholar whose greatest love was the study and
clarification of Halacha
Food Production part two vol.2 no.11
In our last issue we introduced the laws of bishul nochri .
[Review: Food Preparations, Part One vol.2 no.10 In an effort to
limit social mingling with our gentile neighbors and the intermarriage
which might result, our sages prohibited eating food cooked by
gentiles, even if all ingredients are kosher and the food is cooked in
a kosher vessel while under the watchful eye of a Jewish supervisor.
Such food is referred to in Hebrew as bishul nochri or bishul akum.]
We received certain questions regarding the common practice of kosher
caterers and commercial food producers. The following additional
guidelines provide significant insight into the halachic basis for
food preparation involving significant amounts of cooking by nochrim .
The prohibition of bishul nochri applies only if the entire cooking
process is done by the nochri . If a Jew places the food on the fire
or, according to the Ashkenazic view, if he ignites or increases the
fire, no bishul nochri problem can develop. Even if the cooking
process was initiated by a nochri , as long as it was substantially
completed by a Jew (e.g. the pot was removed from the fire before the
food can be considered cooked and then returned to the fire by a Jew)
the bishul nochri prohibition will generally not be present. In the
latter case other factors must be determined and halachic guidance is
suggested.
In keeping with this rule, if the food was previously cooked by a Jew
and is merely being reheated by the nochri , no problem arises.
In summary, the bishul nochri prohibition applies only if all of the
following conditions exist :
1.the food was not fit to be eaten prior to the cooking
2.the food is fit to be served as a dish at a formal meal
3.the food was cooked entirely by a nochri (Gentile)
In a situation in which bishul nochri did occur, the vessels in which
the food was cooked are regarded as having non-kosher absorptions. It
is therefore necessary to kasher them prior to further use. However,
since the prohibition involved is only of Rabbinic origin, some
leniencies do apply. If the utensil in question is for some halachic
or practical reason incapable of undergoing a typical absorption
removal process, Rabbinic guidance may yield allowance to use it
without the conventional kashering.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Not only are non-Jews viewed as unclean when it comes to food and wine it is
taught by varous branches of Judaism that non-Jews do not even have souls.
(Sounds like old movies from Hollywood involving the Deep South and slavery with
the "massa" asking his African originated servant: "do you have a sould"?
Remember the movie Mandino where James Mason played that part? It was even
parodied in the remake of the Planet of the Apes with Mark Wahlberg and an Ape
asked a human the same thing.)
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Subject: What [Some] Jews Teach About non-Jews and Their Souls (In Their Own
Words)--R_17
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Date: 21 Jan 2002 22:22:38 GMT
All Links Active on January 13, 2000 for verification.
http://www.chabad.org/calendar/
(Main Page) Chabad in Cyberspace
Click search and you come to this link:
http://www.mnemotrix.com/chabad/
Enter into their "search engine" these words: non-Jew soul
and here is what you get:
1: Interview with the Lubavitcher Rebbe
http://www.chabad.org/miracle.htm
Torah the answers to their struggles and concerns. Throughout his years
of leadership, beginning in 1950, the Rebbe, in his inimitable style, applied
the depths of Torah scholarship to virtually every area of life.... (18K)
Excerpt: " This afternoon we heard a lecture by Dr. Block in which he explained
that a Jew has a Divine spark. He didn't say explicitly, but he intimated that
only a Jew has this Divine spark but a non-Jew does not. Is this so? To
illustrate from the body again. Each part has its own function: the brain to
think, the heart to feel, and the legs to carry one about. So the mission of a
Jew in life is to transform the physicality of the world into spiritual, divine.
The non-Jew has a different purpose and therefore the two do not have the same
Divine spark."
2: Insights to Passover Haggadah
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/update/files/g3.htm
The word "Seder" means order. Everything we do tonight, must be done in
proper order. The Holy revelations on Pesach night are similar to the Divine
revelation at the time of Yetzias Mitzraim. Hashem wants the Kedusha... (31K)
Excerpt: " ANSWER: In order to avoid assimilation our sages instituted certain
ordinances. Among them is the prohibition to drink wine which is handled by a
non-Jew. Throughout history the world has endeavored to physically annihilate
us. Many efforts have been made to detach us from Hashem and Torah and thus
destroy us spiritually. We lift the cup of wine to indicate that thanks to our
adherence to the command of not mingling with the world by "drinking wine" in
their company, we averted their every effort to destroy us."
(Special Note from Doc Tavish: The Jewish Talmud even elaborates on the above
with this passage: "Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim
knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly." Jewish Talmud You all
can see how the writings complement each other!)
3: Wellsprings
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/exodus/006/w7.htm
And those who repose in the dust will arise and sing." Sichos In English
22 Shvat, 5755 THREE INTERPRETATIONS THREE CATEGORIES OF MITZVOS
On the verse: [1] "These are the judgments which you shall place before
them,"... (27K)
Excerpt: " With regard to eidus, and surely with regard to chukim, there is no
need to forewarn against approaching non-Jewish judges, for it is plainly
obvious that non-Jewish judges do not share any connection to these matters.
Their rulings depend on human intellect, and they have no connection to subjects
which transcend human intellect."
4: The Chassidic Dimension
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/genesis/003/w2.htm
The Midrash comments: "While Avraham was traveling in Aram Naharayim.
he observed the inhabitants eating, drinking and acting frivolously and
wantonly. He said: 'I wish to have no part in this land.' When he arrived...
(18K)
Excerpt: " In the book " In The Ladder Up (Building Block No. 6)" it was
explained that Jews have a neshamah. This is the functional difference between
Jews and non-Jews. There is no Jew alive, no matter how he denies his Judaism,
who has not felt an affinity for another Jew which he cannot explain. We can
describe the neshamah. It is explained in Tanya that the neshamah is a part of
HaShem enclothed in the nefesh (soul) of a Jew. This is the specific difference
between Jews and non-Jews. Jews have a neshamah, Gentiles do not."
(Special Note from Doc Tavish: The usage of the term "Nefesh" is meant to claim
that only Jews have a "divine soul" as shown here:
http://www.utexas.edu/depts/cjso/ChaiTimes/v2.2/Intermarriage.txt
(Link active for verification 01/20/2003) "There is no Intermarriage!
by Sam Kochman... ..., people must understand the difference between a Jew and a
non-Jew. There is one difference between a Jew and a non-Jew. A Jew has a
Nefesh, a divine soul, which a non Jew does not have. This soul is part of G-d
and this is what makes us Jews, not how many mitzvahs we do or how good a person
we are. The divine union of marriage is between Nefeshot(two souls). When a Jew
"marries" a non-Jew this union cannot occur because there are not two souls to
combine." Their very own words people-- NOT mine!)
[...]
9: Wellsprings
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/genesis/009/w7.htm
Divine service of every Jew. To summarize in brief: a) divine service involves
work, not leisure; b) achdus, unity, is the first stage in these efforts; and c)
the success of these endeavors, and our source of strength... (21K)
Excerpt: " This points to a difference of a larger scale between Jews and
non-Jews. Even while a Jew is involved with material concerns, he is living on
two planes simultaneously. Not only is he involved with the material concerns of
this world, he shares a connection to the spiritual truth of the World to Come."
10: Torah Studies - Adaptation of Likutei Sichos
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/genesis/011/w2.htm
Yosef sustained his father and brothers." In light of the above, our Sages
interpret the verse: "Who leads the flock of Yosef," to mean that all the people
of Israel are known by the name Yosef, for it was he who... (18K)
Excerpt: " During this week every Jew will experience the commencement for the
year of the process of golus. Golus, by definition, is an evil. When a Jew is
without his roots, estranged from his spiritual base he experiences golus. For
most Jews today, golus is the time when, engulfed by his non-Jewish environment,
he succumbs to some sort of assimilation or compromise of his Jewishness.
[Tavish comment: Notice that golus aka evil is compared to a non-Jewish
environment!]
There are still even more! The page has a link to go to:
"Hits 11-20 of a potential 733 hits."
These are only the first of 733 Hits!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is there any doubt in anyone's head as to what this major Jewish organization
espouses concerning the rest of humanity. For all the gentile dupes who have
worshipped these devout anti-Christs you should really be asking yourselves how
you have been so stupid over all these years! :-) Wise up and stop adoring the
very offspring of the serpent.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
The above concerned, primarily, the teachings of Hasidim or Lubavitcher Jews.
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Subject: MUST READ!! PROOFS THAT JEWS TEACH: <GENTILE: ANIMAL IN HUMAN FORM
!!!!!!>-- (Non-Jews Do NOT Have Divine Souls From God According to Jewish
Teachings) R_17
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:14:57 -0600
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(Excerpt)
Bigoted Reasoning of Jews on Relations with Non-Jews
From Chabad Lubavitch (ORTHODOX JEWS) Cyberspace Website
In Their Own Words Series
All "searches" in this post were made using: http://www.mnemotrix.com/chabad/
(Links were active February 11, 2001)
Using Keywords in the search engine: Neshamah non-Jew
We get these examples among others:
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/genesis/003/w2.htm
The Chassidic Dimension
The Midrash comments: "While Avraham was traveling in Aram Naharayim. he
observed the inhabitants eating, drinking and acting frivolously and wantonly.
He said: 'I wish to have no part in this land.' When he arrived...
Excerpt: " In the book " In The Ladder Up (Building Block No. 6)" it was
explained that Jews have a neshamah. This is the functional difference between
Jews and non-Jews. There is no Jew alive, no matter how he denies his Judaism,
who has not felt an affinity for another Jew which he cannot explain. We can
describe the neshamah. It is explained in Tanya that the neshamah is a part of
HaShem enclothed in the nefesh (soul) of a Jew. This is the specific difference
between Jews and non-Jews. Jews have a neshamah, Gentiles do not. The difference
is manifested in two main ways: --"
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/daily/tanya/regular/02/19.htm
Tanya (Regular Year): 19 Iyyar
Yetzer Hara also come to love G-d. And for this one must first meditate on the
contents of the blessings of the Shema, which describe the self-nullification of
the angels and other creatures. Thus, the blessings...
Excerpt: " It is therefore impossible to say that "You have chosen us" refers to
Jewish souls, for there can be no comparison between Jewish and non-Jewish
souls, inasmuch as a Jew's soul (13) "is truly part of G-d Above.""
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/daily/tanya/regular/08/12.htm
Tanya (Regular Year): 12 Mar Cheshvan
Vitebsk (or Horodok), who had settled in the Holy Land in 1777. It concludes by
rousing them to the mitzvah of tzedakah in general, and particularly of
maintaining the family of R. Mendel. The Alter Rebbe is here...
Excerpt: " [This alludes to the Chayah of the tzaddik, the soul-level which is
even loftier than the soul-level called Neshamah, and which infuses the
followers of the tzaddik with a transcendent mode of life-force which enables
them to withstand challenges from non-Jewish (i.e., unholy) sources."
http://www.inner.org/gentiles/7noachide/lowliness.htm
Lowliness - A Home for G-d
When asked to explain the difference between a Jew and a non-Jew, the
Lubavitcher Rebbe would often answer that a Jew is essentially a giver, whereas
a non-Jew is essentially a receiver. All of the stages of the...
Excerpt: " It is thus the ultimate purpose of the non-Jewish world to create a
most pleasant home for the Jewish people and to arouse them to descend and enter
in full the context of lower reality. So will the Jewish soul bring redemption
and salvation to all reality, and so will the Jewish home become the sanctuary
of G-d. We thus conclude with the thought that the rectified relation of Jew to
non-Jew is almost as one of husband to wife. The wife, continually serving as a
devoted helpmate, experiences her existential lowliness and dependence on her
husband, while the husband senses the ultimate origin of the soul of his wife,
as preceding his own.."
<<DID YOU ALL NOTICE THE ROLE OF "HELPMATES" JEWS ASSIGN US? Tavish>>
http://www.inner.org/gentiles/7noachide/7princip.htm
The Seven Principles of Faith and Divine Service for a Non
Just as each of the 613 commandments of the Torah given to the Jewish people at
Sinai possesses an inner dimension, so does each of the seven Noachide laws
possess an inner dimension. These are the seven principles...
Excerpt: "When a non-Jew does possess a sense of affinity towards Jews, he
merits inspiration from the source of the soul of Israel. He becomes motivated
to be a good person in all of his relations to his fellow man and to devote his
life to the service of G-d. The rectification of the non-Jewish world in general
depends upon the inspiration and insight which it receives from the Jewish
people. In accordance with the principle of clarification, as defined in
Kabbalah, one can always deduce or extract a spark of good from within the
context of evil. The major non-Jewish religion of Western culture believes in an
individual Jew and worships him as god. This is certainly a great transgression
(of the fourth Noachide commandment defined above). Nonetheless, from this evil
we can deduce a principle of good. The true rectification of the non-Jewish
world will come when it will recognize the Divinely ordained purpose of the
Jewish people to enlighten the world and bring about universal peace and
prosperity..."
<<See what is taught about Christianity in the passage above? Tavish>>
http://www.inner.org/gentiles/7noachide/NJsoul.htm
The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul
Kabbalah teaches that every human soul possesses a full array of ten sefirot, or
spiritual powers. The first three spiritual powers are intellectual in nature
while the following seven are emotional in nature. In...
Excerpt: "The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul The Jewish Soul and the
Non-Jewish Soul In the Jewish, Divine soul, the three powers of the intellect
are its primary motivating force. In the soul of the non-Jew, the seven emotive
powers are its primary motivating force. In the innate state of the non-Jewish
soul the three intellectual powers are subordinate, and serve the earthbound
desires of the seven emotive powers."
Using Keywords in the search engine: non-Jew divine soul
We get these examples among others:
http://www.chabad.org/miracle.htm
Interview with the Lubavitcher Rebbe
Torah the answers to their struggles and concerns. Throughout his years of
leadership, beginning in 1950, the Rebbe, in his inimitable style, applied the
depths of Torah scholarship to virtually every area of life.... (18K)
Excerpt: " This afternoon we heard a lecture by Dr. Block in which he explained
that a Jew has a Divine spark. He didn't say explicitly, but he intimated that
only a Jew has this Divine spark but a non-Jew does not. Is this so? To
illustrate from the body again. Each part has its own function: the brain to
think, the heart to feel, and the legs to carry one about. So the mission of a
Jew in life is to transform the physicality of the world into spiritual, divine.
The non-Jew has a different purpose and therefore the two do not have the same
Divine spark." 2: L'Chaim Weekly Newsletter
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/Archives/lchaim.w1/5755/1/344.htm
L'Chaim 344 - Vayeishev 5755
Greeks attempted to impose their culture on others. However, their aim was not
to eradicate indigenous cultures, but rather to Hellenize and assimilate them.
Thus, the Greeks were willing to recognize the Torah,...
Excerpt: " The Jew, even while living in the physical world, is intimately
connected to both the physical and spiritual realms, whereas the non-Jew has no
true attachment to spiritual matters."
<<EVERYONE READ THE LAST SENTENCE IN THE QUOTED EXCERPT BELOW!! THIS IS WHAT
[SOME] JEWS ENVISION FOR NON-JEWS AND AFTER YOU ALL READ IT AGAIN AND AGAIN READ
WHAT I ATTACHED FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH! Tavish>>
http://www.inner.org/gentiles/7noachide/sincerity.htm
Sincerity - I am Abraham s Servant Jew is a son of G-d whereas a non-Jew is
intended to be a servant of G-d. Although a Jew in essence is always a son, when
he does not merit (to manifest the essence of his Divine soul) he is also
referred to as a...
Excerpt: " As mentioned above, a Jew is a son of G-d whereas a non-Jew is
intended to be a servant of G-d. Although a Jew in essence is always a son, when
he does not merit (to manifest the essence of his Divine soul) he is also
referred to as a servant. Though in relation to Jewish consciousness this is
definitely a fall, in relation to creation as a whole, it serves a most positive
purpose. As we have seen above, the Jew must show the way to the non-Jew. When
the Jew assumes the state of servant he inspires the non-Jew to rise to the same
calling, to become a servant of G-d. With the advent of Mashiach, all non-Jews
will willfully serve (the Divine purpose of) the Jewish people."
============
The Lubavitcher Jews are spelling it out when the Jewish Messiah comes then:
".. all non-Jews will willfully serve (the Divine purpose of) the Jewish
people."
<<Every Gentile should take note of the above passage and they should verify the
Hasidic teaching for themselves using GOOGLE searches. Tavish>>
HERE IS ISAIAH:
Isaiah 60: 9-12, 16 ;61:5,6,9 (English-KJV)
Isaiah 60
9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring
thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the
LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall
minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had
mercy on thee.
11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor
night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their
kings may be brought.
12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those
nations shall be utterly wasted.
16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of
kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the
mighty One of Jacob.
Isaiah 61
5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien
shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the
Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their
glory shall ye boast yourselves.
9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among
the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed
which the LORD hath blessed.
WHETHER BY THEIR JUDAISM OR BY THEIR COMMUNISM-- [SOME] JEWS ENVISION HAVING
NON-JEWS AS THEIR SERVANTS!!
Don't think [Some Jews] aka The Chosen[TM] look down on non-Jews?
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=moo12us162f3bi1in9ttnqbagcub58d5ai%404ax.com&rnum=4
Subject: Part 1: Communism Is in Effect: _THE GUARDIAN ANGEL OF JEWS_
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:57:49 -0600
Message-ID: <moo12us162f3bi1in...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=hno12u47l9f625c3cuivnnea10koomr20f%404ax.com&rnum=5
Subject: Part 2: Communism Is in Effect: _THE GUARDIAN ANGEL OF JEWS_
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:58:26 -0600
Message-ID: <hno12u47l9f625c3c...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=jao12us4d4ld3kd5l84eaeei6mj3bu5pta%404ax.com&rnum=3
Subject: Part 3: Communism Is in Effect: _THE GUARDIAN ANGEL OF JEWS_
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:58:43 -0600
Message-ID: <jao12us4d4ld3kd5l...@4ax.com>
These links are new to this archive and they are active January 20, 2003.
There are some honest Jews who will admit the Jewishness of Communism and
the leadership of the Bolshevik Revolution. In America- Jews are primarily known
for leftist politics and one only needs to look at the American Congress to see
the self evident truths. These links are Jewish web sites and no web site which
has been maligned as Nazi Propaganda has been used.
http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/timeline/haskala.cfm
(Link active January 20, 2003)
"A lot of Haskala Jews are ready to give up on Russia. Many channel their
energy into creating a home land of their own. Some Haskala Jews turn to
political revolution. The Russian Revolution of the early 20th century will
overthrow the Czarist government and it will be led by a disproportionate
number of Jews. "
The same text is mirrored at this Jewish web site as well:
http://www.yahrzeit.org/text_link/temple_text4/textpage119.htm
http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/timeline/desteeur.cfm
"A disproportionate number within the revolutionary movements are Jewish...
Russian Revolutionary movement and it finally succeeds in overthrowing the Czar.
However, it subsequently brings the country into a bitter civil war. The
Communists emerge victorious. Within their ranks are a disproportionate number
of Jews..."
<<The above is from Jewish web sites and they are brave enough to tell truths
many Jews don't want to face. Germans will admit Nazism sprang from among
themselves BUT how many Jews will admit the forefathers and leaders of the
Bolshevik Revolution were primarily Jews? Tavish>>
Also:
http://www.chabad.org/rmbm1112.htm
The Laws Concerning Mashiach
Every Day: Studies by the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson
(shlita) on the Rambam's Conception of Mashiach and the Ultimate Redemption.
These chapters conclude the final section (Hilchos Melachim -...
Excerpt: " 4. The Sages and prophets did not yearn for the Messianic Era in
order that [the Jewish people] rule over the entire world, nor in order that
they have dominion over the gentiles.."
Using Keywords in the search engine: soul animal non-Jew
We get these examples among others:
http://www.chabad.org/miracle.htm
Interview with the Lubavitcher Rebbe
Torah the answers to their struggles and concerns. Throughout his years of
leadership, beginning in 1950, the Rebbe, in his inimitable style, applied the
depths of Torah scholarship to virtually every area of life.... (18K)
Excerpt: " To illustrate from the body again. Each part has its own function:
the brain to think, the heart to feel, and the legs to carry one about. So the
mission of a Jew in life is to transform the physicality of the world into
spiritual, divine. The non-Jew has a different purpose and therefore the two do
not have the same Divine spark."
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/exodus/006/w7.htm
Wellsprings
And those who repose in the dust will arise and sing." Sichos In English 22
Shvat, 5755 THREE INTERPRETATIONS THREE CATEGORIES OF MITZVOS On the verse: [1]
"These are the judgments which you shall place before them,"...
Excerpt: " With regard to eidus, and surely with regard to chukim, there is no
need to forewarn against approaching non-Jewish judges, for it is plainly
obvious that non-Jewish judges do not share any connection to these matters.
Their rulings depend on human intellect, and they have no connection to subjects
which transcend human intellect."
http://www.inner.org/responsa/letters-a/resp22.htm
Love Your Jewish Neighbor
Why is it necessary to add the parenthetical comment that one's neighbor means
one's fellow Jew? Why can't one take the verse at face value and say, "I shall
love my neighbor as myself"-period-without restricting...
Excerpt: " The Jew is commanded to respect all human beings. The Torah prohibits
any negative behavior toward a non-Jew, so long as he is not an enemy. He is
instructed, however, not to become too close a companion to him. Thus the above
verse, veahavta l reyacha kamocha, "You shall love your neighbor as your self",
does not imply a universal neighbor. To be honest with the text, the
parenthetical "a fellow Jew" must appear."
Related to above:
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/update/files/w8.htm
Please Tell Me What The Rebbe Says
Rabbi Davidson, the fourth grade teacher. "Please look into your Chumash and pay
attention." The teacher's stern tone jolted Shimon, who was staring out of the
window, lost in thought. "I didn't mean to startle you,"...
Excerpt: " If this is true about a non-Jewish leader, then it is certainly true
about a Jewish leader. A Jewish leader does not only think about making his own
life better or about helping a small group of people close to him. A Jewish
leader cares about the entire Jewish nation."
Using Keywords in the search engine: Tanya Heaven Soul
We get these examples among others:
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/weekly/leviticus/009/w7.htm
Wellsprings
His commandments," i.e., the mitzvos we perform are His mitzvos; He also
performs them. [5] There are two dimensions to G-d's performance of the mitzvos:
[6] a) G-d's performance of the mitzvos which precedes the...
Excerpt: " The Divine service of created beings is by nature limited. The
dimension of timelessness and infinity drawn down by the mitzvos (see Tanya, ch.
25) is endowed by the connection established by the mitzvos with G-d, who is
described as "the G-d of life." (Indeed, the very word mitzvah is associated
with the term tzavsa, meaning "connection.") This connection draws down
eternality, from above, causing G-d to perform the spiritual parallels of the
mitzvah."
Excerpt: " ANSWER: The uniqueness of a Jewish person is his neshamah - soul -
which is truly a part of Hashem above (see Tanya ch. 2). Hashem sent down
600,000 souls to this world (ibid. ch. 37), and each has a mission to
accomplish. Until the soul totally accomplishes its task, sparks of the soul are
reincarnated in newly born people."
<<DO NOT BE MISTAKEN-- THE ABOVE APPLIES TO JEWS ONLY! Tavish>>
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/daily/tanya/leap/09end/24.htm
Tanya (Leap Year): 24 Kislev
The explanation provided further (in ch. 10) is that each descriptive term
denotes a specific aspect of the divine service of the tzaddik. The terms
"complete tzaddik" and "incomplete tzaddik" denote the level of...
Excerpt: " [The soul of a Jew descends into a body for a purpose - in order to
fulfill a specific spiritual mission in this world. To enable him to fulfill it
a heavenly oath is administered to him that he "be righteous and not wicked,"
and concurrently, that he regard himself as wicked and not righteous."
MORE TO COME!!
Here's a bonus-- What Lubavitch Jews teach about Christianity:
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/daily/tanya/leap/09end/24.htm
part.04
And yet, they failed! Of the hundreds of millions `devotees' to all these faiths
and causes, only a tiny fraction are truly faithful to them. The overwhelming
majority are self-deluding hypocrites: they take from...
Excerpt: " Believer: Secondly, they did succeed---to the extent that they do
concur with the essence of man and of creation. Communism, despite its flaws and
corruptions, has had a profound effect on our sense of social justice.
Christianity, despite the horrendous atrocities it perpetrated and justified,
played a major role in introducing, to a largely pagan world, the concepts
(though much adulterated) of a one, omnipotent and non- corporeal G-d and of a
messianic end-goal to existence."
http://www.chabad.org/rmbm1112.htm
The Laws Concerning Mashiach
Every Day: Studies by the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson
(shlita) on the Rambam's Conception of Mashiach and the Ultimate Redemption.
These chapters conclude the final section (Hilchos Melachim -...
Excerpt: " "Can there be a greater stumbling block than [Christianity]? All the
prophets spoke of Moshiach as the redeemer of Israel and their savior, who would
gather their dispersed ones and strengthen their [observance of] the mitzvos. In
contrast [the founder of Christianity] caused the Jews to be slain by the sword,
their remnants to be scattered and humiliated, the Torah to be altered, and the
majority of the world to err and serve a god other than the L-rd.""
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/mission.html
CB"N - Anti-Missionary
Chavurath B'nei Noach has pledged to be partners with the Jewish organizations
countering the efforts of deceptive missionary and cult groups targeting the
Jewish community for conversion. We encourage their efforts...
Excerpt: " 10x1w.gif "My approach to disproving Christianity is quite simple. By
using verses from both the Jewish and Christian Bibles I demonstrate that they
BOTH could not have been divinely inspired by the one and only GOD."
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/life.html
CB"N - The Covenant of Everlasting Life
The idea of everlasting life is rather appealing to most folks. A somewhat
primal yearning seemingly tugs at us to somehow reclaim that certain something
which Adam and Chava lost when they sunk their teeth into...
Excerpt: " And now a personal observation, if you please: If (indeed, IF:
hypothetical speculation with such an example is, at best, an exercise of
futility - the socio-historical situation speaks for itself in the archives of
Jewish history) the righteous Jews of the Second Temple period had taught the
Seven Laws of Noah to the non-Jews, there would never have risen a religion such
as Christianity. With the knowledge that (through the observance of the Sheva
Mitzvot B nei Noach) everlasting life could be attained as promised by Hashem to
Noach, the resulting fabrication that everlasting life could come only through
belief and worship of a human being would never have happened. Instead, as we
have noted, the teaching concerning the Covenant of the Rainbow - The Covenant
of Everlasting Life, had been forced into hiding by the vicious persecution of
the Jews, and the new covenant of Christianity was but a pagan attempt to
replace the eternal Covenant made by Hashem to Noach."
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/feb98view.html
CB"N - ViewPoint: February 1998
Abndrew, did you notice how your fellow vermin praised communism yet condemned
Christianity? Again in their own words as cited above: "Communism, despite its
flaws and corruptions, has had a profound effect on our sense of social justice.
Christianity, despite the horrendous atrocities it perpetrated and justified,
played a major role in introducing, to a largely pagan world.."?
How about these teachings from Jews and their allied web sites. Care to deny
Jews elevate themselves above non-Jews whom they teach do not have "Divine
Souls" such as Jews have?
LOOK!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kt2afto6q8ik6ed4dak0dbp5jush2k7fs4%404ax.com
From: Horst Buechner
Subject: One Synagogue's Statement On Jews Marrying Non-Jews and More! -- R CF
Date: 2001-05-06 01:49:07 PST
Excerpts:
"Symbolically, the profanation of the holy vessels of the Beth
Hamikdosh marked also the desecration of the Divine soul which forms
the sanctuary of every Jew and Jewess.
The purpose and mission of this Divine spark is to light up one's
immediate environment and one's share in the world at large with the
light of the highest Divine ideals. Far from fulfilling their soul's
mission upon this earth, those weak Jews lent aid and comfort to the
forces of assimilation and darkness."
http://www.jewish.com/askarabbi/askarabbi/askr4404.htm
Why is it that intermarriages are prohibited or considered inappropriate?
Q: Why is it that intermarriages are prohibited or considered inappropriate? I
understand that Orthodoxy is very strict about certain things and very
traditional, but if true love happens to be between a Jew and someone of a
different religion or culture, then why not be happy for the two in love?
A: According to Halacha, a Jewish marriage, the sanctification called Kiddushin,
can only take place between two Jewish partners. Putting aside the social
implications, there is no kiddushin between a Jew and Non-Jew....
Compare the above to this:
http://www.utexas.edu/depts/cjso/ChaiTimes/v2.2/Intermarriage.txt
(Link still active 01/20/2003)
There is no Intermarriage!
by Sam Kochman
The latest figures by the federation say that 56% of Jews are
married to non-Jews. How can there be no intermarriage if 56% of Jews
are married to non-Jews? The answer the question is that they are not
marriages at all. A Jew is not able to marry a non-Jew.
Marriage is a mitzvah, ordained by G-d, in which two people
come together in a divine union. Along with this mitzvah there are
certain conditions and prohibitions, one of which is that it is
forbidden to marry a non-Jew. So how can one say that a divine union
has occurred when a that supposed union is prohibited according to
Jewish law? First a principle must be understood. That principle is
that you cannot fulfill a mitzvah by breaking one. An example is a
person steals a pair of Tefillin and then uses them to pray. This
person has not fulfilled the commandment to wrap Tefillin because he
broke a law to fulfill a law. The same is true of intermarriage. By
definition intermarriage is not sacred, not divine, and the mere term
degrades the holy union of marriage to something profane.
To fully understand this issue, people must understand the
difference between a Jew and a non-Jew. There is one difference
between a Jew and a non-Jew. A Jew has a Nefesh, a divine soul, which
a non Jew does not have. This soul is part of G-d and this is what
makes us Jews, not how many mitzvahs we do or how good a person we
are. The divine union of marriage is between Nefeshot(two souls).
When a Jew "marries" a non-Jew this union cannot occur because there
are not two souls to combine. We see this in Halacha, if a person who
has married a non Jew leaves them, that person does not need a get, a
halachic divorce, so you can see that no marriage occurred.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
More to come!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e2357ab_3%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Communist Paul Kneisel Advocates a Revolution Against Capital and State
Message-ID: <3e235...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 14 Jan 2003 00:20:02 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3df2a771.119319192%40news5.uncensored-news.com&rnum=5
Subject: Nanaimo BC Resident Ken McVay lies about his agenda to stifle FREE
SPEECH R_1207
Message-ID: <3df2a771....@news5.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 8 Dec 2002 01:58:44 GMT
FREE SPEECH WORLDWIDE UNDER ASSAULT BY B'NAI BRITH AND NIZKOR.ORG
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s71b2vk0o1r8r7dnk8n3ijlldct647par9%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR Director Ken McVay in Bed With Communists and His Animosity
Against Anti-Communists Documented ...
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Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:57:20 GMT
(Very brief excerpt)
The League of Human Rights of B'nai Brith (Ken McVay's Nizkor sponsor) got a
court ruling which declares this about anti-communism:
http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/decisions/docs/league-e.htm
T.D. 15/92 Decision rendered December 16, 1992
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6 (as amended)
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL
[...]
B. THE COMPLAINTS
These complaints are brought by ... The League for Human Rights B'Nai Brith
Canada ... (1) Themes Which Promote Hatred: ...
(g) Anti-Communist Ideology .... <END>
---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?
"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
Message-ID: <3A6F230F...@his.com>
Tavish
nakedearsw...@yahoo.com (Ray Seltz) wrote:
>From: nakedearsw...@yahoo.com (Ray Seltz)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Re: Attention-Bradbury The Lazy Bum
>Date: 21 Jan 2003 15:51:24 -0800
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It takes real guts and a lot of intelligence to make your type of posts doesn't
it? You can't refute what I post so you gravitate to childish personal attacks.
My "Maxim Concerning Debate"- Originally written in a letter to Liberal
Radio Talk Show Host Jim Hightower:
"I am tired of seeing people get attacked for speaking
the truth and the hecklers not being able to prove their point
other than scorn or ridicule.
Liberals can't refute the truth so all liberals instead
attempt to make the truth bearer into a buffoon hoping to draw the
public's attention away from the message!
I will tell you a secret and I hope that you learn from it!
This is my original- "If I hear something being debated pertaining
to a subject that I am not cognizant of, therefore impartial, I
examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is telling
the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar always
attacks the opposing person and the truth teller always attacks the
opposing premise!"
-Subject: Tavish Maxim Concerning Debate.
-Date: 1997/12/09
-Message-ID: <348ccbc4....@news.smart1.net>
The Socialists/Marxists/Leftists/Liberals or whatever name they choose
to exist under are the primary users of smear and innuendo thus they
typically resort to personal attacks instead of dealing in FACT.
Black Knight
> On 21 Jan 2003 10:58:30 -0800, <594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com>
> kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>
> >Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
> >with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
> >the keyboard, Moby
> >Bum?
>
> Once again personal attacks coming from a person who claims the be a Republican
> and claims to be a conservative.
That's two more LIES by the filthy lazy BUM. If BradBum the fool
watched the political campaigns, the loser would see Republicans
attacking Democrats all the time.
Pat Buchanan is a Conservative and he attacks people with a vengeance.
Bradbum's hero, William Pierce spends most of his speeches attacking
people.
No sense trying to cry your way out of this one, you fat piece of
bullshit. You got caught lying twice.The rest of your post was such
bullshit that I deleted it.Get a job, bum.
Black Knight
> On 21 Jan 2003 23:15:15 +0100, Frog <FrogRe...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >"Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> >news:594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com...
> >> Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
> >> with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
> >> the keyboard, Moby
> >> Bum?
> >>
> >>
> >Nigger, Do you ever shut up? Sounds like you need the Doc Martin dental
> >plan.
Come on and bring your boots. I'll use my big two-handed Claymore to
slice your fucking feet off with the Doc Martens still on them. If
you're still breathing after that, my big 3 foot battleaxe will do the
rest. Lay on, scurvy knave. Thy hour of doom cometh.
Sir Joe of Bruno
The Black Knight
Osugeography
>Date: 1/21/2003 8:52 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <594c8e48.03012...@posting.google.com>
>
>donawana <dona...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:<sjmr2vcjpb3gpsf2d...@4ax.com>...
>> On 21 Jan 2003 23:15:15 +0100, Frog <FrogRe...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>> >news:594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com...
>> >> Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
>> >> with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
>> >> the keyboard, Moby
>> >> Bum?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Nigger, Do you ever shut up? Sounds like you need the Doc Martin dental
>> >plan.
Even considering the times Bruno & I have disagreed, often intensely, on little
to medium size matters, he consistently shows more intelligence, spine, and
integrity than you do. You are a fetid green thing whose destiny is to continue
to reside, anonymous, in your self-fouled, tepid scummy pond. Now go croak,
little troll-frog.
Marvin Sebourn
osugeo...@aol.com
Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Bradbum caught LYING twice more.
Date: 21 Jan 2003 18:44:20 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Message-ID: <594c8e48.03012...@posting.google.com>
References: <594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com>
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On 21 Jan 2003 18:44:20 -0800, <594c8e48.03012...@posting.google.com>
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>Tavish <RemoveHyphens2M...@ix.net-co-m.com> wrote in message news:<b2er2vorl3i5u6s14...@4ax.com>...
>> On 21 Jan 2003 10:58:30 -0800, <594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com>
>> kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>>
>> >Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
>> >with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
>> >the keyboard, Moby Bum?
:
>> Once again personal attacks coming from a person who claims the be a Republican
>> and claims to be a conservative.
:
>That's two more LIES by the filthy lazy BUM.
Now you are accusing me of being a liar YET you are the one who claims being a
conservative and Republican which I pointed out above and which I prove you have
claimed in these archives-- so who is the liar?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=594c8e48.0209190059.52088ef3%40posting.google.com&rnum=1
From: kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Robert Frenchu Exposed as a Dumbass
Date: 19 Sep 2002 01:59:06 -0700
Message-ID: <594c8e48.02091...@posting.google.com>
"I happen to be a Conservative Republican, member of the American
Legion and former U.S. Navy officer."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=594c8e48.0301170827.36026d12%40posting.google.com&rnum=3
From: kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.skinheads,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Mountain INF's Lies and Hypocrisy
Date: 17 Jan 2003 08:27:26 -0800
Message-ID: <594c8e48.03011...@posting.google.com>
"I'm a Conservative Republican, former U.S. Naval officer, NRA member and
American Legion member."
Who is the liar? Who relies on name call and mean spirited personal attacks?
>If BradBum the fool watched the political campaigns, the loser would see
>Republicans attacking Democrats all the time.
Name call is ALL losers have.
>Pat Buchanan is a Conservative and he attacks people with a vengeance.
He may call them a name BUT only after he slam dunks them. Just as Rush Limbaugh
does. No conservative name calls as a means of refuting the opposition BUT your
kind does and you are no conservative!
>Bradbum's hero, William Pierce spends most of his speeches attacking
>people.
Personal attacks won't make the self evident truths go away and you are only
making an ass of yourself like Peter Outerbridge and Ken McVay do. They are
smear meisters and nothing more!
>No sense trying to cry your way out of this one, you fat piece of
>bullshit. You got caught lying twice.The rest of your post was such
>bullshit that I deleted it.
Can't refute it and ~90% of it was Talmudic text!
>Get a job, bum.
I don't have to. I am retired and you are acting like a communist totalitarian.
No wonder why you are in good favor with the crowd who embraces communism such
as Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel and the Nizkor/B'nai Brith/Ken McVay bunch
who are vitriolic against anti-communists as these archives prove beyond any
fault:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Keep making personal attacks and you keep proving how you are a conservative
not. All you are is name call and nothing more. To be a bum I would have to live
on handouts. I don't live on handouts but Ken McVay does!
He is what you ignore and chose instead to name call and make personal attacks.
You positively cannot refute what my archives contain. You can't use fact and
logic to defend your position. You changed the subject title again to reflect
more smear. Everyone reading this should compare the REFERENCE in your header
info I provide above to the Message ID of what follows and what you can't
refute!
From: Tavish <RemoveHyphens2M...@ix.net-co-m.com>
Subject: Re: Attention-Bradbury The Lazy Bum
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:19:20 -0600
Message-ID: <b2er2vorl3i5u6s14...@4ax.com>
References: <594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com>
On 21 Jan 2003 10:58:30 -0800, <594c8e48.0301...@posting.google.com>
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>Here is an expose of the Nazi distortion of the Talmud that you post
>with your overly chubby little fingers. Do they obstruct each other on
>the keyboard, Moby
>Bum?
Once again personal attacks coming from a person who claims the be a Republican
>http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
Once again:
My "Maxim Concerning Debate"- Originally written in a letter to Liberal
Black Knight
I wonder why these racist idiots all think I am a Black man? Black is
the color of my armor and tunic when I dress for medieval combat.
They are so obsessed with race they can't think of anything else.
Have they never heard of the Black Prince?He was a white man.
Sir Joe of Bruno
Black Knight
Bruno