> --Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
> Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
> cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
>
"Perhaps one thing that I should note, because authors often
sensationalize the hatemongering on the Net, is that, for all their
vitriol, these people are only a tiny handful of the 30-40 million
users on the Internet. I am weary of seeing their activities blown out
of proportion, as I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown
out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen
photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family
photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to
our society)."
McVay does NOT condone child porn; he states he is "weary" of seeing
"...the issue of 'child porn' blown out of porportion" likened to the
neo-Nazis, anti-semites, white supremacists efforts
"sensationalize[d]" on the net.
--
"Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator",
we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."
Alexai Sayle.
Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Anonymous" <nob...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote in message
news:7bd65070cb7a94b1...@remailer.privacy.at...
>
> --Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
> Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
> cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
>
> Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
> not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
> would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
> issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
> around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
> consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
> fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,or Susan Cohen
> alone with your children?
>
>
>Who's leg are you pulling here. There was not internet in 1988 it only came
>online in the mid 1990.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>And then you direct us to a link the is pro McVay and pro Nizkor and
>indirect pro Holohoax.
>You must really think we are all fools.
Well, at least some are...
>
>Kurt Knoll.
>=============
Well, Kurt, that pretty much displays a depth of ignorance of history, and a
willingness to speak without knowing.
Here are some links. Educate yourself. Please!
http://www.webmastercourse.com/articles/internet/history/
http://www.vissing.dk/Internet.History/ihistlist.html
http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/pdp/ns/ben/TCPHIST.html
-pk
> And then you direct us to a link the is pro McVay and pro Nizkor and
> indirect pro Holohoax.
> You must really think we are all fools.
You might consider not making it so easy to do so...
-pk
>
> Kurt Knoll.
> =============
<snip>
> "Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message news:catamont-
> 400A72.083...@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <7bd65070cb7a94b1...@remailer.privacy.at>,
> > Anonymous <nob...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:
> >
> > > --Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
> > > "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
> > > proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
> > > yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
> > > seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
> > > my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
> > > moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
> > > http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
> > > Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
> > > cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
>
WHAT YOU SNIPPED:
"Perhaps one thing that I should note, because authors often
sensationalize the hatemongering on the Net, is that, for all their
vitriol, these people are only a tiny handful of the 30-40 million
users on the Internet. I am weary of seeing their activities blown out
of proportion, as I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown
out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen
photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family
photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to
our society)."
> > McVay does NOT condone child porn; he states he is "weary" of seeing
> > "...the issue of 'child porn' blown out of porportion" likened to the
> > neo-Nazis, anti-semites, white supremacists efforts
> > "sensationalize[d]" on the net.
> >
>
> Looks like it's time to get the good Doc Tavish in here, so that he can
> expose your sick fisting
> S&M fetish...
Yes, please do ask Doc Tavish about his sick S&M fetish. The posts you
are "objecting" to are about consensual, loving relationships between
two consenting individuals.
Doc's, on the other hand, are about non-consensual physical torture of
his "enemies."
>
> P.S.
>
> Sara, how many times have you been investigated for child abuse?
>
My _family_ was investigated once when some sick fuck like you thought
it would be cute to file an anonymous complaint (which by law must be
investigated). We were given a completely clean bill of health amd all
charges were dismissed. _I_ have never been investigated.
So, now tell us: Why are you an anonymous sick fuck?
Sara
Kurt Knoll.
=======
<tarp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3c430ca8...@news.mindspring.com...
You write about some expirementing but then again it was not a puplic net
till the mid 1990.
Kurt Knoll.
=====
"Patrick Keenan" <pkee...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:muE08.4913$_D2.8...@news20.bellglobal.com...
Dr. Ewan Jackson in a December 25th post to alt.revisionism
"Actually, Mr Ragland, the problem is the United States First Amendment
protected-speech laws.
Free speech in the US is a licence to harass, intimidate and libel."
EJ
> Who's leg are you pulling here. There was not internet in 1988 it only
> came online in the mid 1990.
> And then you direct us to a link the is pro McVay and pro Nizkor and
> indirect pro Holohoax.
> You must really think we are all fools.
Kurt, you're a fool.
--
@%<
And he was right. Web stuff came later, but in 1988 discussions and
USENET had existed for some time. Google, for example, bought the Deja
Usenet archives which go back to May 11, 1981:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
"New! Google has fully integrated the past 20 years of Usenet archives into
Google Groups, which now offers access to more than 700 million messages
dating back to 1981. This is by far the most complete collection of Usenet
articles ever assembled and a fascinating first-hand historical account."
>We did not have internet here in British columbia till about 1995.
You mean in Kitimat, or all of British Columbia? I might believe that you
didn't have a local ISP in Kitimat till then. I am quite sure that you are
not correct about all of BC.
> I was a SYSOP for my own BBS eg Buletin Board from 1980 till 1996 and i
did
> some Graphics in my opening screens.
Good for you. All the more reason you should know better.
>
> You write about some expirementing but then again it was not a puplic net
> till the mid 1990.
Still not true, Kurt. Read the history.
-pk
I don't know about Susan but yes I would definately leave him with my kids.
Kenneth McVay is one of the most extremely righteous people I've seen on the
internet, and you are a redneck anti-semite. Go away.
[Kurt Knoll flushed down the ol' bradbury]
>You mean in Kitimat, or all of British Columbia? I might believe that you
>didn't have a local ISP in Kitimat till then. I am quite sure that you are
>not correct about all of BC.
Mr. Knoll is, as usual, completely ignorant. I began gating UseNet
newsgroups into FidoNet in 1986, and connected my first UNIX
machine to the net in 1988.
The Internet was available to anyone in British Columbia that wanted
it badly enough to get it, as I did. I was, in fact, the first ISP in
Nanaimo, and provided both email and news service to my clients.
The first serious commercial ISP in Nanaimo was started by several of
my clients. In fact, I had the pleasure of providing their newsfeed
for a period of time, until they could arrange something on their own.
--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
Kurt Knoll.
====
"Patrick Keenan" <pkee...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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--
In the face of mounting scientific evidence, there is persistent denial by
American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are
thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by
parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their
babies. It provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as autism.
"Perhaps one thing that I should note, because authors often
sensationalize the hatemongering on the Net, is that, for all their
vitriol, these people are only a tiny handful of the 30-40 million
users on the Internet. I am weary of seeing their activities blown out
of proportion, as I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown
out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen
photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family
photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to
our society)."
McVay does NOT condone child porn; he states he is "weary" of seeing
You fucked up, Don. You hit "respond via e-mail" as well. And here's
what I received:
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From: "Sara" <cata...@concentric.net>
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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Ken McVay: Hang your head in shame..
'I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or
any great moral danger to our society).' - Ken McVay OBC
"Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> LOL. so what does this say????
It says you're trying to cover your ass, but it won't work.
Sorry, Don. You blew it.
Cover my ass from what? You? LOL
>Who's leg are you pulling here. There was not internet in 1988 it only came
>online in the mid 1990.
Gee, Kurt, I guess that explains why I had Internet access in 1989 -- which
was a few years before "the mid 1990[sic]" you think is accurate.
>And then you direct us to a link the is pro McVay and pro Nizkor and
>indirect pro Holohoax.
>You must really think we are all fools.
You obviously don't think you're a fool, Kurt -- so why do you go so far out
of your way to prove it nearly every time you start pounding on the
keyboard?
--PLH, Kurt knows not. QED,
>He said in 1988 internet discussions . We did not have internet here in
>British columbia till about 1995.
So? Your little wide spot in the road isn't representative of the rest of
the world. I know that I had Internet access in the summer of 1989 -- and
the ISP I got it from had had it for a few years prior to that.
>I was a SYSOP for my own BBS eg Buletin Board from 1980 till 1996 and i did
>some Graphics in my opening screens.
So? That's irrelevant to your statement of stupidity. Try and stick to the
issue, will you?
>You write about some expirementing but then again it was not a puplic net
>till the mid 1990.
Is that why public colleges had access to it years earlier? Funny, but I
have a feeling the folks at Penn State would be surprised to learn that
according to you, they didn't have Internet access until "about 1995".
Maybe you should look into the history of psuvm.psu.edu...
--PLH, that was back when September only came once a year :)
> "Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:catamont-E5A55F...@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <11K08.13963$Xs4.3...@feed.centurytel.net>, "Mike McGee"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > LOL. so what does this say????
> >
> > It says you're trying to cover your ass, but it won't work.
> >
> > Sorry, Don. You blew it.
>
>
> Cover my ass from what? You? LOL
>
Oh, and stop e-mailing me, Don.
Sara
Mr. Knoll is wrong, as usual.
I had UseNet access in 1986, via my FidoNet gateway, and my own SCO
XENIX machine joined the net in 1988 - in Nanaimo.
Mr. Knoll knows as much about the net as he does about history - i.e.
nothing.
--
IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany
and America's Most Powerful Corporation, by Edwin Black
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0609607995/thenizkorproject/
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
Mr. Knoll is wrong, as usual.
Stop e-mailing me, you fat cow.
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To: "GassenBurnham" <cte6...@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: Blakely...website material...anti-revisionist christmas party
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In article <y7xS7.7007$Xs4.8...@feed.centurytel.net>, "GassenBurnham"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> Found this on the web...new material for your website.
>
>
> LOL
>
>
His website? Really? You mean he found another web host? He must have,
since both Truepath and Geocities dropped him....
Maybe you ought to host it at seark.net, Don.
Sara
--
"This is no social crisis, it's just you having fun."
- Pete Townshend
>"Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
>news:catamont-4E9B16...@news.concentric.net...
[...]
>> Oh, and stop e-mailing me, Don.
>>
>> Sara
>Stop e-mailing me, you fat cow.
She's e-mailing you about as much as I am, Dumbass Donnie.
Do the human race a large favor and kill yourself.
"Stupid is Forever!" -- Don Ellis, 2000
--PLH, Donnie *really* believes
How will this help you with your history lessons, Kurt? Do you, ummm, know
what those terms mean, or are you just stringing words together?
>And what was Modem speed and modem software used.
Well, that'd depend on the individual setups and OS versions used. And
that would also depend on what the user could afford; I don't recall modems
being cheap at that time; IIRC I paid a couple hundred dollars for a 2400GVC
modem before 1990. But I'm not about to take a poll of 80's internet
subscribers for you.
>Was it for public use or only University exchange.
Depends on how interested the public was in gaining access. That is,
interested enough to pay. And no, not just University exchange.
Here's an idea, Kurt. Why don't you go look it up?
-pk
>In article <szkadvg...@eris.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yellowhead16.net> writes:
>>>He said in 1988 internet discussions . We did not have internet here in
>>>British columbia till about 1995.
>>So? Your little wide spot in the road isn't representative of the rest of
>>the world. I know that I had Internet access in the summer of 1989 -- and
>>the ISP I got it from had had it for a few years prior to that.
>Mr. Knoll is wrong, as usual.
At least he's consistent.
>I had UseNet access in 1986, via my FidoNet gateway, and my own SCO
>XENIX machine joined the net in 1988 - in Nanaimo.
There were Houston BBSes who had Usenet access via FidoNet, as well -- I was
on a couple of them.
>Mr. Knoll knows as much about the net as he does about history - i.e.
>nothing.
True, but he's not completely hopeless, as he _has_ shown an occasional
outbreak of common sense, which puts him quite a bit ahead of entities like
Ellis, Bradbury, Michael, et al.
--PLH, back to watch Donnie continue to machine-gun his own feet
[Kurt Knoll flushed down the ol' ellis]
>Well, that'd depend on the individual setups and OS versions used. And
>that would also depend on what the user could afford; I don't recall modems
>being cheap at that time; IIRC I paid a couple hundred dollars for a 2400GVC
>modem before 1990. But I'm not about to take a poll of 80's internet
>subscribers for you.
I paid about $775 for my HSTs - my first Trailblazer came in at just
under $1200.
I used the HSTs and the Telebit to bring the Internet to Nanaimo, then
delivered email and news to DOS systems running Waffle-DOS to talk to
my SCO XENIX machine... back when the Internet didn't exist,
according to that ignorant buffoon, Kurt Knoll.
I got my first computer in 1981; Perhaps Mr. Knoll will now tell us
that computers didn't exist in 1981.... that would be good for another
laugh.
--
"In the final analysis, one does not refute a closed system, a total
lie that is not refutable to the extent that its conclusions has
preceded any evidence." (Vidal-Naquet, Pierre. Assassins of Memory,
New York: Columbia University Press. p.81)
Kurt Knoll.
============
"Patrick Keenan" <pkee...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8iL08.5955$_D2.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
>In article <a_G08.5004$_D2.9...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
>Patrick Keenan <pkee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>[Kurt Knoll flushed down the ol' bradbury]
>
>>You mean in Kitimat, or all of British Columbia? I might believe that you
>>didn't have a local ISP in Kitimat till then. I am quite sure that you are
>>not correct about all of BC.
>
>Mr. Knoll is, as usual, completely ignorant. I began gating UseNet
>newsgroups into FidoNet in 1986, and connected my first UNIX
>machine to the net in 1988.
Xenix! Yuk! It was a long time ago, wasn't it old buddy? Now we have
direct Fido/Internet linkage. I could run this newsgroup entirely
through Fido now and never have to log into this NG again.
Ken
Member of Fido Old Pharts Club
>He said in 1988 internet discussions . We did not have internet here in
>British columbia till about 1995.
>I was a SYSOP for my own BBS eg Buletin Board from 1980 till 1996 and i did
>some Graphics in my opening screens.
#1 Horseshit. Just because they didn't have the Internet in that
Hellhole in the armpit of the Universe until after 1995 doesn't mean
it wasn't in the rest of BC.
#2 Horseshit. There were no BBS of any kind running in BC in 1980.
Any more lies, Kurt?
Why ask him? What lies are you currently promoting today, Lewis?
Nice forgery, Don, but it doesn't work. No one believes you anymore, if
they ever did.
Kurt Knoll.
========
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkita4...@eris.io.com...
Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Kenneth McVay, OBC" <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote in message
news:a200nh$9rt$1...@news.tht.net...
That you need to go and get your tubes cleaned out, even if they charge double.
Jason James
>Thanks guy I keep on working on it till someday I will be your master.
Not likely -- you're not going to live THAT long.
(Nice to see we've got one thing in common, though: getting started with
300-Baud modems. Mine was (don't laugh) a Westridge 6420 stuck on a
Commodore 64, back in the days when 64*K* of RAM for under $700 was a
bargain. For some reason, I don't miss those days any more...)
--PLH, wondering how many terabytes we'll need on the hard drive 20 years
from now
Remember that Keaneu Reeves movie, "Johnny Mneumonic" several years
ago? Remember how much RAM he said he had in his brain? 80 gigabytes.
That figure was science fiction at the time.
Now I could go down the street and buy that for less than what you paid
for that 64K on your Commodre.
Steven Mock
--
"Nobody objects to the truth being written and published, but free
speech does not include the right to peddle vicious lies for profit."
- David Irving
<http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/books/Guttenplan/SMH0609101.html#note>
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
>> "Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yellowhead16.net> writes:
>> >Thanks guy I keep on working on it till someday I will be your master.
>> Not likely -- you're not going to live THAT long.
>> (Nice to see we've got one thing in common, though: getting started with
>> 300-Baud modems. Mine was (don't laugh) a Westridge 6420 stuck on a
>> Commodore 64, back in the days when 64*K* of RAM for under $700 was a
>> bargain. For some reason, I don't miss those days any more...)
>>
>> --PLH, wondering how many terabytes we'll need on the hard drive 20 years
>> from now
>Remember that Keaneu Reeves movie, "Johnny Mneumonic" several years
>ago? Remember how much RAM he said he had in his brain? 80 gigabytes.
>That figure was science fiction at the time.
>Now I could go down the street and buy that for less than what you paid
>for that 64K on your Commodre.
No kidding -- and I only paid around $250 for my C= 64, anyway...:-)
--PLH, Captain Kirk recommended it...how could I argue with that? :)
Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8zb0...@eris.io.com...
It's allways got a big bull's eye painted on it.
Jason James
>In article <200201141640...@nym.alias.net>, lcs Mixmaster
>Remailer <m...@anon.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
:
>> Looks like it's time to get the good Doc Tavish in here, so that he can
>> expose your sick fisting S&M fetish...
:
>Yes, please do ask Doc Tavish about his sick S&M fetish. The posts you
>are "objecting" to are about consensual, loving relationships between
>two consenting individuals.
Since when is YOUR FIST a consenting consensual adult? The poster did mention
"your sick fisting S&M fetish" which is hardly "about consensual, loving
relationships between two consenting individuals" not unless you consider your
fist to be an extension of a Psycho Sara personality!
Everyone clear their mind and first look at this picture of Sara Salzman:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
Now after you have her image firmly planted in your mind imagine her squatting
and fisting her vagina as she details here:
"Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve. I'm sorry
if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted
to impart my own (limited) experience." -- Sara Salzman
broadcasting that she "Fist F*cks" herself in <alt.sex.bondage>.
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
-Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
>Doc's, on the other hand, are about non-consensual physical torture of
>his "enemies."
What I posted were replies to people who have either criminally harassed me
or have sympathized with those who have criminally harassed me I.E. libeled me,
e-mail b*mbing me, forge canceling my posts, spamming thousands of random word
post in my identity, making death threats via postings, web pages, telephone
calls or calling my residence and hanging up numerous times day and night,
ordering phoney telephone services such as extra lines or repairs, inciting
harassment of my neighbors, etc.
I only wish that each and every bastard or bitch that has violated my privacy or
has been an accomplice to those who engage in criminal acts against me all choke
to death on a chicken bone or at lest get mauled by a pack of wild roaming pit
bulldogs.
I like the name Matt Giwer has given the piece of crap from Canada-- he calls
a certain Nizkor ally the "Toronto Lampshade."
BTW those fictional Bruno character posts about whips are primitive indeed.
Doctor Morbius Phibes would use New Millennia technology for interrogation!
Electricity is far more sophisticated. It can be used indefinitely and without
any physiological damage. An oscillator which outputs adjustable frequencies,
waveforms, and currents would be far better. Square waves, triangle waves,
sinusoidal waves, or even pulses with variable duty cycles could all be
implemented. The lower frequencies would be subcutaneous and could actually send
currents to the bone whilst the higher frequencies such as Teslafied currents
would have a skin effect of staying external and follow the dermis.
These currents, of course, would be limited to less than twenty milliamperes so
as to not be lethal of course! Yes, the 21st Century deserves hi-tech. :-)
>> P.S.
>>
>> Sara, how many times have you been investigated for child abuse?
:
>My _family_ was investigated once when some sick fuck like you thought
>it would be cute to file an anonymous complaint
That is not what you swore to in a civil court you filthy perjurer. You are on
record as saying: "The campaign conducted by Defendant Bradbury and his
accomplices has gone so far as the filing of fraudulent charges of child abuse
with the child protective agency in the area in which Ms. Salzman resides.." BUT
on the other hand you have stated in public forum: "There's no such thing as
"CPS" ... No agency in the Denver area has received a single complaint."
<catamont-BA1794...@news.concentric.net>
Looks like you're caught lying coming and going you pig!
>(which by law must be investigated). We were given a completely clean bill
>of health amd all charges were dismissed.
>
>_I_ have never been investigated.
Then why did you swear in a civil court that you have? You can't keep your story
straight at all can you FISTER?
>So, now tell us: Why are you an anonymous sick fuck?
Funny that a pig like you would refer to someone else as a "sick fuck"
considering what you do!
>Sara
Need I say more about the disgusting vile pig known as Sara "The Fist" Salzman?
Everyone read my sig line and remember Sara said this: "The posts you
are "objecting" to are about consensual, loving relationships between
two consenting individuals." Since when is whipping your breasts showing love?
No wonder your neighbors called CPS after you. Anyone of them could have been
the complainants to CPS especially after seeing your husn=band's ceiling fan
torture device which he brags about as detailed in this archive:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=7imu3uo7gurji5e3hbtmfg787u6bajr78d%404ax.com&rnum=3
Subject: -->Sara Salzman Keeps Dodging a Very Simple Question About Her
Husband's Torture Device aka Re: Mr. Bradbury's sexual fantasies
Message-ID: <7imu3uo7gurji5e3h...@4ax.com>
I ask again-- Did your children ever see that ceiling fan whipping machine your
husband made? Did they see it used?
Doc Tavish
---
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." -- Jewess Sara Salzman having a perverted fantasy
in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
>
>Everyone read my sig line and remember Sara said this: "The posts you
>are "objecting" to are about consensual, loving relationships between
>two consenting individuals.
> Since when is whipping your breasts showing love?
I dont know Tavish, I dont have any Breasts, but you tried whipping yours??!
How fat are you again? Has Bruno whipped yours to test the love theory?
Jason James
>
>I ask again-- Did your ..... ever see that ceiling fan whipping machine
>your
>husband made? Did they see it used?
>
>
> Doc Tavish
Sounds like you really like this idea of a self flagellating machine Tavish.
Just think, you can absolve yours sin an' stuff with it.
Jason James
Spelling correction: always
>
>
> Jason James
>
>
>
>Spelling correction: always
...says Donnie as he settles in for another night of forge-subscribing
people to junk mailing lists.
--PLH, life is eminently predictable for the Trailer Trash Queen of Star
City, Arkansas
Sara,
Don't you ever get tired of playing these silly little spy
games? I am unsure exactly what you are trying to achieve,
but every time you post something provocative you are
actually soliciting the "harassment" you complain about.
EJ
>My second Advantage only did have 5 megabits cost me $ 6.500 on a special
>discount.
You should have waited...then again, memory prices falling over the cliff
didn't happen until the 1990s, so maybe not. (How did you get *five*
megabytes? Even when I still had the '386, I had to use the same type of
SIMMs in all the slots, which means either 1, 4, 8, or 16 Mb on the
motherboard...)
--PLH, it beats having 11.5K (with an 8K expansion) :)
What a fascinating statement. Don Ellis e-mails _me_, and I'm soliciting
harassment?!
Please tell me what "spy games" I am playing, Mr. Jackson, by posting
the header of an unsolicited e-mail?
And while you're at it, tell us again about this imaginary THHP list,
and what topics we're discussing this week.
My SCO XENIX system _never_ crashed - it was solid, stable, and
completely reliable. You DOS weenies would have loved it :-)
Yes, it was a very long time ago.... back before the Knolls decided to
make a career of making asses of themselves.
--
"The antisemite has chosen hate because hate is a faith;
at the outset he has chosen to devaluate words and reasons."
(Sarte. Antisemite and Jew, p. 19)
Sorry. Sara is not authorized to play spy games this week. Spying
activities have been transferred to another THHP list member. Is Pat
not keeping you up to date this week?
>and operating system had no relevancy at that time since most of the
>Software was written C language
>and was very transportable for most computer systems.
Ah, Kurt, I hate to tell you this but you are as knowledgeable about
computers as you are about history. Programs are specifically written
for the operating system they are running on otherwise they are no go.
As usual you are full of shit.
I don't promote any, JHJ, and wouldn't have to should I acquire a
taste to do so - you post more than enough to keep the group active.
Hell, you tell enough lies in this newsgroup that all the rest of your
compatriots in the lunatic fringe could stop posting entirely.
But you are a liar, Lewis. Why should we take your word for it?
>and wouldn't have to should I acquire a
>taste to do so - you post more than enough to keep the group active
In fact, I post more than enough examples of your deceit quite regularly. And
here is another example. The liar calls truthful people liars.
>Hell, you tell enough lies in this newsgroup that all the rest of your
>compatriots in the lunatic fringe could stop posting entirely.
>
No honest person is listening to you, Lewish. No honest person believes one
word you say.
>
>>and operating system had no relevancy at that time since most of the
>>Software was written C language
>>and was very transportable for most computer systems.
"C" language Kirk? Well beam me up Scotty, I thought COBAL was history,.like
late '60s early '70s.
Jason James
Prove it.
>
>>and wouldn't have to should I acquire a
>>taste to do so - you post more than enough to keep the group active
>
>In fact, I post more than enough examples of your deceit quite regularly. And
>here is another example. The liar calls truthful people liars.
Post an example of my deciet.
>
>>Hell, you tell enough lies in this newsgroup that all the rest of your
>>compatriots in the lunatic fringe could stop posting entirely.
>>
>
>No honest person is listening to you, Lewish. No honest person believes one
>word you say.
No, no honest or moral person believes a thing you say, JHJ. I've told
you before. Apart frm the mental incompetents and moral cretins in
this newsgroup who hold the same opinions as you, you have no
audience.
It must be quite disheartening for you to know that posting your hate
here and on Carlos Porters web page is as high in life as you are ever
going to attain.
Most people strive to reach as high as they can. You have shown that
you are spent already and have risen as far as you ever will - an
incompetent bungler and clumsy er of the hitorical record who will
never obtain a receptive audience with decent and educated people.
Poor, Joe. Shipwrecked already. What is that boy to think of the
wretch his father is?
It was another one of Sara's forgeries.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
All I'm saying is that every time you start an aggressive thread
about Mr Blakely or Mr Ellis, you are inviting a response, and the
response might not always be in a form you would like. It wasn't
long ago that you posted provocative material about Mr Blakely
for 100+ consecutive days. For what purpose, one must ask?
> And while you're at it, tell us again about this imaginary THHP list,
> and what topics we're discussing this week.
At a guess, Don Ellis, your favourite subject. You're possibly bitching
about how much $ you've spent on a certain law firm with zero results.
Just a guess.
EJ
She is always stalking Mr. Ellis. She even believes I am Ellis.
ROFL!! I haven't spent one thin DIME on Donnie Ellis. He's worth even
less than you are.
If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
ROFL!! I haven't spent one thin DIME on Donnie Ellis. He's worth even
less than you are.
If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
Sara
ROFL!! I haven't spent one thin DIME on Donnie Ellis. He's worth even
less than you are.
If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
Sara
LOL, another lie.
> If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
>
> Sara
>
--
According to my sources, it was SPLC.
EJ
Now I beg to differ.
Remember you told Suzie you maintain an Excel spreadsheet to keep track
of all of Don's and Pat's emails and posts. You certainly go to a lot of
effort with these people.
EJ
And the cost of maintaining a spreadsheet is... ?
I didn't think so.
However, you haven't identified this imaginary law firm, so I can only
assume you're a blad-faced liar.
ROFL!!! Good one!
Not only is that pure imagination, but SPLC doesn't CHARGE anyone
anything.
So you lied again.
Please send me a copy of this spreadsheet.
He can't, Donnie. Even if he could, you don't have enough brains to read a
spreadsheet.
sw
>
I don't have a copy of the spreadsheet, but I do have a forwarded
email from Suzie in which Sara mentions it.
EJ
Really Sara? So you haven't had the Southern Poverty Law Centre
make inquiries on your behalf? Uh huh. Does the name
Elizabeth Kleinberg ring a bell? Nope?
EJ
What is a "blad-faced liar"? Forgive me but I am unfamiliar with
some of your mid-American slang.
And yes, I identified the law firm, lair.
EJ
I just got it. Thanks!
BTW. Sara just made this statement (lie) :
Re: Threads of Intimidation
"What _ARE_ you on about, Mr. Ragland? I never said anything about Mr.
Ellis' feelings for his daughter. I've known about his web site for
quite some time and have NEVER mentioned it publicly."
Do you remember her making a earlier statement (week or two ago) about Mr.
Ellis' racing site and his daughter. I remember you making a reply to it.
Help.
Strange. For a liar, you sure have plenty of accurate information not posted
on this newsgroup.
--
"As far as homosexual bondage at the Holiday Inn make sure to bring plastic
so the management doesn't charge you for shit stained bedsheets".
- Michael Ragland
> Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:<catamont-314659...@news.concentric.net>...
[Snip]
> > If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
> >
> > Sara
>
> According to my sources, it was SPLC.
The SPLC is not a law firm, Ewan. Do you even know what it is?
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
>
>> Please send me a copy of this spreadsheet.
>
>
>
>He can't, Donnie. Even if he could, you don't have enough brains to read a
>spreadsheet.
>
>
>sw
Of all the whackos, Donnie comes across as the most moronic, with the
possible exception of Phillie da Moron and of course Knoll. That's 3rd from the
bottom Donnie,..count 1 2 3 on your fingers now......
Jason James
> In article <636415e9.02011...@posting.google.com>,
> ewanlo...@my-deja.com (Dr. Ewan Jackson) wrote:
>
> > Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> > news:<catamont-314659...@news.concentric.net>...
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
> > >
> > > Sara
> >
> > According to my sources, it was SPLC.
>
> The SPLC is not a law firm, Ewan. Do you even know what it is?
Actually, my mistake; it is a law firm, but it's a nonprofit
organization.
> In article <636415e9.02011...@posting.google.com>,
> ewanlo...@my-deja.com (Dr. Ewan Jackson) wrote:
>
> > Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> > news:<catamont-314659...@news.concentric.net>...
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
> > >
> > > Sara
> >
> > According to my sources, it was SPLC.
>
> The SPLC is not a law firm, Ewan. Do you even know what it is?
OF course he does. Ewan knows everything. Except that it's all wrong.
> In article <Orac-9085CB.2...@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
> Orac <Or...@wabcmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <636415e9.02011...@posting.google.com>,
> > ewanlo...@my-deja.com (Dr. Ewan Jackson) wrote:
> >
> > > Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> > > news:<catamont-314659...@news.concentric.net>...
> >
> > [Snip]
> >
> > > > If you have some "information," please do identify the "law firm."
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > >
> > > According to my sources, it was SPLC.
> >
> > The SPLC is not a law firm, Ewan. Do you even know what it is?
>
> Actually, my mistake; it is a law firm, but it's a nonprofit
> organization.
Actually, Ewan Jackson thinks he is the only person who has ever trolled
anyone.
He has no idea whether anything I told Susie (or that Susie forwarded to
"Pat Blakely") was accurate or not.
The fact that he is trying to use this information to prove he knows
anything at all is laughable.
It's always fun to troll a troll, isn't it?
Looks like Dave got an Instant Message from the THHP Commanders,
informing him of his mistake.
"SPLC isn't a law firm" and then 10 minutes later "Oops I made a
mistake, it is after all".
Lucky you back-peddled and decided to tow the party line.
Not to worry Dave, the best of us make mistakes at times,
and it's refreshing to see you make one at last.
EJ
Not at all. You and Orac do an admirable job too. Loved your 100+
days of Pat Blakely threads.
> He has no idea whether anything I told Susie (or that Susie forwarded to
> "Pat Blakely") was accurate or not.
Aha.
EJ
No problem.
EJ
Sure is. I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with gay, bald Screwy Ewie.
sw
>
>Sure is. I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with gay, bald Screwy Ewie.
>
>sw
>
Its ok for you Steve, he's not one of yours,.....he's an embarrassment for us.
Jason James
>>From: "SW" Adolf@Ach,it is so hot down here.com
>>Date: 18/01/02 4:32 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <QrO18.1071$kp6....@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>
>>Sure is. I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with gay, bald Screwy Ewie.
>Its ok for you Steve, he's not one of yours,.....he's an embarrassment for us.
>Jason James
Not to worry, Jason. To balance the geographical embarrassment scale,
Joe Bruno is an embarrassment for us.
hro
=====================
Hilary Ostrov
E-mail: hos...@telus.net
WWW: http://www3.telus.net/myssiwyg/
The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org/
Sara has the hots for Blakely.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
> > He has no idea whether anything I told Susie (or that Susie forwarded to
You want to see embarrassment? Look in the mirror Hilary. You are one ugly
sonofabitch. LOL
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
> hro
Who is 'us', Jewboy?
You are about as Australian as Ariel Sharon.
"If I am killing a rat with a stick and have him in a corner, I am not
indignant if he tries to bite me and squeals and gibbers with rage. My job is
to attend to my footwork and to keep on hitting him where it will do the most
good" A. S. Lees
But he is counterbalanced by you, Hills.
You have proven yourself to be the penultimate example of the whining, harpie,
jewess.
You unashamedly post your photograph on your web site.
You are obviously blissfuly unaware that your ugly, probiscus laden, mug is
only surpassed in grotesqueness by Sara Salzman's.
If you two are the best holocaust chorus girls the kike cause can dig up, they
are in dire trouble.
>>WRONG, witch. Geography has nothing to do with this issue. Someone
who lives in San Diego, California has no geographical connection with
a putrid, stupid witch who lives in British Columbia. The distance
between us is at least 1500 miles. Do you take responsibility for
something done by people in Los Angeles, you idiot? Do you take
responsibility for the Aryan Nations which are much closer to your
dumb ass in Idaho? God really made a mess of your head, the inside as
well as the outside.
What's more, I have stated repeatedly that I am NOT an
anti-revisionist, so I have no connection whatever with your ugly mug
and never did. If someone tried to make any such connection between
us, I would consider it to be the vilest of insults and seriously
consider pulverizing that person.
Joe Bruno
His homosexual friends.
I was thinking more about the fact that of the 3 regular posters (altho EJ is
barely regular), 2 are complete fucknuts.
As to what exactly, EJ is up to, I can only wonder. For sure tho he's making us
look bad Hilary.
Jason James
>
>But he is counterbalanced by you, Hills.
>You have proven yourself to be the penultimate example of the whining,
>harpie,
>jewess.
[. . .]
What is that vile stench? ,, Oh, YOU are back,...fuck off back to your
holiday camp at that all male nudist beach Ross.
Jason James
Oh yeah,..that's a real side splitter moron. If you haven't noticed, you
cherished One Nation parties leader has split. Maybe you can nominate yourself
as 'an average racist, anti Semitic asshole' as leader?
'us' is and allways will be the silent voting majority, shit-lips.
Jason James
Did you and your friday night coprophiliac mates booze up come to that
conclusion?
Jason James