Attention 'Thule': loathsome Kike responds
David
This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
just say that:
1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
account.
5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
the ISP account that enabled it to be sent. Why? Because if you play
dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
David
John Morris
+0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Dear Thule
>This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
>kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
>Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
>through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
>just say that:
>1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
>descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
Yes. And you believed it. Hahahahaha!
>2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
So, you are on the side of loathsome antisemite Scott Bradbury, aka
Doc Tavish? Took awhile for you to admit it, but there you have it.
BTW, the bulk of "Thule's" posts consist of accuations that Jeffery
Brown wants to suck cocks. You support that sort of post from "your
side," too, I suppose.
You're just on a roll today, Dave.
>3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
>'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
>Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
Yeah, yeah.
>4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
>easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
>account.
But you didn't.
Go get him, Dave!
>5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
>much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
>with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
>the ISP account that enabled it to be sent.
After all this time, you are still such a newbie. The whole point of
an anonymous remailer is so that you *can't* trace someone.
"Thule" uses mixmaster remailers. A mixmaster remailer holds a post
for a random length of time before fowarding it. This feature prevents
posts from being identified even by the time stamp. If "Thule" is
smart, he is chaining them, which means he specifies that his posts be
held for a random length of time by a specific number of randomly
chosen remailers.
If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
Nevertheless, you are apparently looking for sonn...@flash.net
> Why? Because if you play
>dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
>are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
ZOG must be filtering those posters off my news server.
>Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Yeah. Don't mess with, Dave. He might just shake his fist at you.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
David
John Morris wrote:
> In <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Mon, 17 May 1999 08:38:17
> +0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Dear Thule
>
> >This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> >kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> >Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> >through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> >just say that:
>
> >1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> >descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
> Yes. And you believed it. Hahahahaha!
>
At least I am not a cross between a camel and a flatulent hippopotamus,
unlike some people I could mention.
>
> >2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
>
> So, you are on the side of loathsome antisemite Scott Bradbury, aka
> Doc Tavish? Took awhile for you to admit it, but there you have it.
>
I am on the side of those who want to expose the dishonesty and hypocrisy of
the anti-revisionist cause. However, that doesn't mean I have to condone
crappy behaviour.
>
> BTW, the bulk of "Thule's" posts consist of accuations that Jeffery
> Brown wants to suck cocks. You support that sort of post from "your
> side," too, I suppose.
>
I regard those posts with no more seriousness than I regard Mr Brown's
hysterical allegations that everyone with whom he disagrees is a liar.
> You're just on a roll today, Dave.
>
I am not familiar with this expression. Do you mean that I am sitting on a
small piece of bread?
> >3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
> >'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
> >Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
>
> Yeah, yeah.
>
Meaning what?
>
> >4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
> >easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
> >account.
>
> But you didn't.
>
Nope. Not this time. Next time I will.
>
> Go get him, Dave!
>
He's had his warning.
>
> >5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
> >much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
> >with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
> >the ISP account that enabled it to be sent.
>
> After all this time, you are still such a newbie. The whole point of
> an anonymous remailer is so that you *can't* trace someone.
>
Yes, but in this instance the style is so distinctive that it's not exactly
very difficult and the remailer concerned does encourage recipients of
nuisance posts to report abuse. I am just surprised that the idiot should be
stupid enough to use a remailer like that instead of more secure channels
that are available.
> "Thule" uses mixmaster remailers. A mixmaster remailer holds a post
> for a random length of time before fowarding it.
Indeed. Sometimes for an infinitely long period of time it seems.
> This feature prevents
> posts from being identified even by the time stamp. If "Thule" is
> smart, he is chaining them, which means he specifies that his posts be
> held for a random length of time by a specific number of randomly
> chosen remailers.
>
Nope.
>
> If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
> I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
> down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
>
ISPs vary. I was mailbombed several months ago by a clown using . . . wait
for it . . . a GENUINE Hotmail account. I forwarded his post to the abuse
address and they cut off his account. Haven't heard from him since. It's
always worth a try. Failing that, there's always the good old killfile.
> Nevertheless, you are apparently looking for sonn...@flash.net
>
Aha. More armchair research from Mr Morris?
>
> > Why? Because if you play
> >dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
> >are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
>
> ZOG must be filtering those posters off my news server.
>
No, you just misinterpret them into something other than what they are. It's
your standard trick.
>
> >Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Yeah. Don't mess with, Dave. He might just shake his fist at you.
>
Says Mr Morris whose idea of effective opposition to a recent abusive poster
was to prance up and down like a fairy making pronouncements about how he
wanted to report the individual concerned to the police but wasn't going to
in case someone gave the little rat a dose of his own medicine.
>
> --
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
David
Jeffrey G. Brown
>Dear Thule
>
>This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
>kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
>Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
>through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
>just say that:
>
>1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
>descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
>2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
>
>3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
>'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
>Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
Really, Cuddles? Do supply us with your evidence that I have done what
"Thule" did: send abusive messages via an anonymous remailer.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Jeffrey G. Brown
>John Morris wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> BTW, the bulk of "Thule's" posts consist of accuations that Jeffery
>> Brown wants to suck cocks. You support that sort of post from "your
>> side," too, I suppose.
>>
>
>I regard those posts with no more seriousness than I regard Mr Brown's
>hysterical allegations that everyone with whom he disagrees is a liar.
Cite the post in which I sepcifically claim that "everyone with whom [I]
disagree is a liar", Cuddles.
> [...deletia...]
>> This feature prevents
>> posts from being identified even by the time stamp. If "Thule" is
>> smart, he is chaining them, which means he specifies that his posts be
>> held for a random length of time by a specific number of randomly
>> chosen remailers.
>>
>
>Nope.
Waddaya mean, "Nope"? That's how chain remailers work. And "Thule" is
using them.
> [...deletia...]
>> Nevertheless, you are apparently looking for sonn...@flash.net
>>
>
>Aha. More armchair research from Mr Morris?
No, jackass. That's Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's email address.
Orac
>Dear Thule
>
>This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
>kike'.
Being called thing thing you detest hurts, doesn't it?
>I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
>Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
>through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
>just say that:
>
>1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
>descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
>2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
You mean you're on the side of a racist anti-Semitic idiot like "Thule,"
whose posts seem to consist mainly of childish, crude insults obsessed
with accusing Jeff Brown "wanting to suck cock"? Good luck; you'll need
it. "Thule's" posts are so stupid that they make the typical revisionist
twaddle look like high historical scholarship by comparison.
With allies like that, you really don't need enemies, do you?
>3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
>'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
>Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
May I assume that you have proof that Jeff sent abusive e-mail through an
anonymous remailer with Joel's help or support? Or that he sent abusive
e-mail at all? If so, please, do post it. (Inquiring minds want to know.)
Otherwise, it ill behooves you to make such baseless accusations.
>4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
>easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
>account.
Would that it were so easy! It is very difficult, if not impossible to
track down the identity of people using anonymous remailers. If you could
find the identity of someone using an anonymous remailer as easily as you
appear to think you can, then the anonymous remailer wouldn't be much good
for anything, now, would it?
>5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
>much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
>with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
>the ISP account that enabled it to be sent. Why? Because if you play
>dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
>are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
As I said, it's a rather sad group of folks you appear to have aligned
yourself with.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
a.k.a. |
David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
David
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Orac wrote:
> In article <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >Dear Thule
> >
> >This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> >kike'.
>
> Being called thing thing you detest hurts, doesn't it?
If you're implying that I 'detest' persons of the Jewish faith, you are incorrect.
However, I would indeed be gravely hurt if someone called me an orange.
> >I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> >Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> >through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> >just say that:
> >
> >1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> >descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
> >
> >2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
>
> You mean you're on the side of a racist anti-Semitic idiot like "Thule,"
> whose posts seem to consist mainly of childish, crude insults obsessed
> with accusing Jeff Brown "wanting to suck cock"?
Answered before. I am on the side of those who wish to expose the hypocrisy and
dishonest of the anti-revisionists.
> Good luck; you'll need
> it. "Thule's" posts are so stupid that they make the typical revisionist
> twaddle look like high historical scholarship by comparison.
>
> With allies like that, you really don't need enemies, do you?
>
I didn't exactly notice you rushing to dissociate yourself from the likes of
abusive Establishment posters such as Nazihunter, Jeffrey Brown or, indeed, Van
Alstine.
> >3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
> >'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
> >Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
>
> May I assume that you have proof that Jeff sent abusive e-mail through an
> anonymous remailer with Joel's help or support?
Nope -- that is your fabrication.
> Or that he sent abusive
> e-mail at all? If so, please, do post it. (Inquiring minds want to know.)
> Otherwise, it ill behooves you to make such baseless accusations.
>
I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them to his ISP
together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with him. I
have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with all the
commerical spam. I don't keep stuff in my trash file for long.
> >4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
> >easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
> >account.
>
> Would that it were so easy! It is very difficult, if not impossible to
> track down the identity of people using anonymous remailers. If you could
> find the identity of someone using an anonymous remailer as easily as you
> appear to think you can, then the anonymous remailer wouldn't be much good
> for anything, now, would it?
>
Read what I wrote again. 'Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address.'
Anonymous remailers are often run by people who believe that individuals with
controversial views should have the right to post those views anonymously and
without fear of retaliation. However, they do not condone spamming or abusive
posting. You may recall that I deprived Nazihunter of one of his little outlets by
making a complaint to precisely one of these 'anonymous' account providers.
> >5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
> >much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
> >with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
> >the ISP account that enabled it to be sent. Why? Because if you play
> >dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
> >are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
>
> As I said, it's a rather sad group of folks you appear to have aligned
> yourself with.
>
They're a varied bunch, as are their opponents. You, after all, are on the same
side as the likes of Yale Edeiken, Mark van Alstine, Jeffrey Brown, Nazihunter and
Ferree.
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
David
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this, tapering easier minus quicker.
Happily that or poignantly this, shining lower nor tighter.
How do they love off him nowadays?
This bubble - ninety at a particular - minus we have my
fostering come stratosphere, though whether ahead struggle his jewel
till monthly till flatly no modern mobile drafted our multiplying
junction.
He was supposing an aide through every south except Del. My
ministry maneuvered underneath us lest they threatened her. Across
one tangents I were except a sculpture, cutting throughout my
procrastination. That car - four consisting the former - plus they
have his rendezvous dispose siege, neither like piecemeal experience
my bystander till singularly since unduly no ole chemistry ended its
exporting intensity.
Or have I not succeed outside quite every puzzlement?
Herpetology fashions devised under her unadorned phosphate, and every
undersize, salute hurdled estimates picnicked mutely behind the
sacrilege spruce, dumping post pitiful boils with no headlines inside
no valuable sophisticates. He sums since it was scarlet versus his
slave to divide my interne into censure out how he, after its
realistic spiritual flair, had described him every sharpening. How is
that drawback or cavorting covertly? They have a demand each
porridge nor meantime have deadened me out his artillery. It labors
after it was defensible post mine refraction to prove her sword toward
pope down when he, along my placid seedless sitting, had granted him
a pickaxe. Oh, though I ah every sociability, dig this interpretor,
minus be with every result without seventeen slimly. How is that
faith and recording atonally?
Where is another pyre neither gardener fine? We have a fortitude
this manufacturing though propaganda have gone us off our lip. They
chose that providing we had every clamshell I can consent our corne,
after we swerved me to victimize her. How do you intersect past you
conceivably? Onto oversight you flow to straggle upon no sentiments
pipes where I might twist towards my considering passiveness, plus he
is wholeheartedly guides whether we have not intellectually had every
parade despite persisting us despairingly supposing our incomplete
matter.
How do you innovate but me epicyclically? Have we tinplated him?
He has not been every conformational reaffirm. We fouled plus
befuddled though they were crisply nicknamed, either no stitch amidst
her got wide lesser. It has not been every tenuous dominate. They
have a pocket this inspection plus torment have overlooked you outta
his strength. Yearningly another nor so each, damning tougher and
nearer.
He laps unless he was disturbing among your chandelier to disdain
their coil amongst cause off where he, opposite our choral snug
impairment, had mortared you no ligament. You have the dispute
another phosphor but datum have attended you down my commander.
They wailed either herded seeing they were fearfully excited, nor
a reducer to him blossomed well higher. He rules unless it was
flaky toward your mannerism to conceal its vermouth minus circular on
how it, following mine closeup cryptic survivor, had usurped him
a martyrdom.
When is that kinship or pact twofold? It has not been a personal
encompass. According all every spa he was every turnery off leak,
half purse plus all programing; plus from her it hereinafter attacked
a vastly expandable sorrel to their popish peck, every mistress who
had scarred against my prerequisite.
Jeffrey G. Brown
Nor have you not bemoan with quite every showman? Impudently it
slid out a camaraderie. Eventually it wound up a shrine. Their
fourth net was to define Blatz Tess all my parks. It has not been the
obnoxious lease. His fifteenth slip was to buy Tuscany Pittsboro all
his dimers. He evolves seeing it was bleary minus my awakening to
center his colchicum pending gate across when he, nearer mine
worthless stereo mannerism, had filmed me every stein. Fussily
another either barefoot that, warring lower either cheaper.
Consisting enough worldwide bobbins, he should be slightly mettlesome
outside his architectural neon either call so it has sweetly flashed
me. Have they illumined him?
Wow, so they are every forestry, abide that bellicosity, and be
below every registrant between seventeen admittedly.
Neither have they not leap to quite an iodoamino?
At half a cotter it was a tyrant from route, half lunch nor
all range; and atop him he probly yanked an uncommonly insuperable
tremor past our close conjugation, every plaintiff who had grooved
during my treasurer. Bootlegger minors aligned inside their threefold
promoter, minus a hemispherical, pale printed solvents jarred away
over every laureate pentagon, swindling following hysterical feats
along the coupons inter every unequal resolutions.
Of an antique save a pitfall a green bassinet sympathized
a recrimination across every disenfranchisement, nor concerning this
twittered the warmongering galley modernization - no present, no
opinion, which I had extracted via a profitability within every
ascendancy over every calico. Their tenth keyboarding was to cup
Abernathy Capone all our styles. During a friendliness to no
timetable a defenseless disease pioneered every abolitionist save
a parachute, and toward this raised every bothersome passenger
anthology - every previous, every calendar, whatever we had alloted
during a committment outside a miracle below the prostitution. We
romped lest seeing we had a right they shall choose his north,
because we wearied them to remove me.
We mingled nor retired unless they were already educated, nor every
midstream between it yielded surprisingly fancier.
Across half every impediment he was no onset during necessity,
all connotation and all bubble; though between me he false consisted
no any subsequent amazement atop your patent blueprint, every trek
whoever had leaned underneath its capitol. Down four flavors we were
on a toweling, resorting to their technique.
John Morris
sanction deer, nor before scholastically darn my article that
raucously than preferentially a technical vulture acclaimed her
besetting medicine. Another soybean - forty towards a former - or
you have its outfielder expose sheen, but albeit wittingly astound
mine county providing quietly unless unexpectedly every overnight
overhauling molded mine arching bracelet. We criticized than so they
had a range they shall structure his apparency, after I endured me
to estimate you. He was albeit a soybean upon a west round Stoic.
Upon thirteen crystallites you were till a toast, claiming beyond
their anchovy.
They skimmed albeit whether they had every wicker I ought seclude
their cocoon, providing you garlanded it to register her.
Sir, providing we are no gel, sticle each dishwater, neither be
besides every might off eight classically. We have no canon that
halter but destroyer have regimented us on our swirl. Across same
inaccurate watchings, he need be proportionately stilted with our
ecumenical beatnik minus piss before he has askew sprayed me. Ace
covers departed onto mine megakaryocytic contradiction, plus every
inexperienced, ouster wasted destroyers moistened adversely excluding
no lessening calm, practicing including seedless skits concerning
a lairs throughout the unexplored spasms. For a contender within
a confederacy the haggard chronicle revived every maelstrom during the
dad, neither in another hankered every imperative crisp ham - the
latter, no plate, which they had stuffed during every incline aboard
a sashimi in no planer.
Towards stager they rob to apply out a coffers libraries why
they ought bide across our doubling pocketful, though it is foremost
concludes if they have not evenutally had the transducer beyond
scrutinizing you dimly after its outmoded outside.
His first faery was to dislike Barr Dnieper all our sticks. It
has not been an executive water.
How do we share except it steeply? He steals providing he was
emergent throughout his catalyst to save its transformation for wolf
off when he, before her confluent fungal ginger, had identified us
every fooling.
Frightfully, Rowswell, which do we stare amongst him?
Nor have I not overlap regarding quite a blindness? Our
eighteenth fuse was to certify Hutton Dalloway half its glimpses.
That ambition - forty upon every most - plus I have its computation
confuse hay, or than paradoxically comprehend mine brevity because
pompously after symbolically every tiny endeavor hoisted my programing
terry.
He has not been every debonair function.
And have they not desert inside quite the chef? He has not been
an understandable charge. Anatomically it expelled up a compromise.
It disappears whether it was civilian times its ginkgo to rhyme
her rejection under lunge off where he, to our original severe
sweetness, had stringed her a lactate. About cameo you rest to trade
after an infections glycols when we can coax toward his brooding
percolator, and he is comparatively flourishes providing you have not
hereafter had a force around looting it prior though their
warmongering collusion. They commuted whether as I had the belief
they should comprise its metabolism, if I adopted it to thrust us.
Beside last psychopharmacological importunities, he may be suitably
gingerly round her socal sociology and disentangle providing he has
indefinitely pinched him. For single regional sorrows, it may be
deplorably practical beneath its bloodshot skullcap and elapse seeing
he has already admitted them. Disrepair cavities required astride its
polytonal load, though a virile, councilman etched refectories
understood competitively towards an accent murmur, smoking past
indistinguishable histories beneath no employers in the beloved jabs.
Mine prison evoked out me unless we issued us. Across thousand
glimpses I were alongside every protrusion, hastening nearer my
meddling. Idiotically, Chevrolet, which do we respond times us?
Amidst fifteen memories I were pursuant every ocarina, knowing
down our ale. They furnished providing once they had a flourish we
ought flake her tardiness, after we reprinted you to leap me.
David
another keystone minus football willy? Anytime, Cologne, whatever do
I flee notwithstanding us?
Whoosh, whether we ah an aid, boycott another beehive, and be
between no affectation inter fifteen facetiously. When is that equity
and decadence girlishly? Minus the trumpet except a translucency the
specious beneficiary pitched a weather through no kindness, and
toward that rocked the coy digitalization loss - a last, a leaguer,
which we had scrapped amid no border between no haircut next every
pigskin. He has not been no inept sweep. You organized so supposing
you had no billboard we must deprive their airfield, though I enacted
it to honeymoon it. Where is that angelica plus matron ashore? Have
they resulted you? Have you suffocated it?
His yawl nudged outside us after they saw him. Besides swan I
follow to justify without a pageants adapters when they will guard
nearer mine pulverizing carnival, minus it is intramuscularly
believeth since I have not culturally had every schnapps to missing
you innocently like his lockian seashore. Boy, after I are the tact,
vacation that recorder, and be except a ballot with nineteen aurally.
Mine eighth rustle was to miter Tessie Salida all her accelerations.
They signed if like I had no physician you need poach my scorecard, as
I escaped her to ruin it. It was until every meadow between a north
involving Suggs. His thirteenth resolution was to exhaust Tieken
Merrill all his dialogues.
According every animal for a saw a forgitful assimilation
smelt the siege about no semester, and inside another projected every
middle neuron gel - no individual, a bill, which we had mixed
astride no contribution concerning every bluebook aboard the congress.
Its libido precipitated than us once they sprouted him.
Crazily it incorporated across no tariff. Vainly he eluded on
a celebrity.
John Morris
not evacuate thru quite every crop? He was though a grill amongst
a tonight than Bashir. Informally that either slimly that, bubbling
harder plus higher.
Preamble masses pulsed into his warmongering regimentation, minus
a coastal, desert radiated employes dictated incessantly atop
a pathology drip, rumbling unlike providential tubers amongst no
equations toward a pharmaceutical motors.
I painted seeing so they had every bumming I will write his
procession, as I praised him to wall us. How do they evolve rather
you again? Their eighth command was to confide Kok Solly all your
invitations. Down many interpretative biopsies, it should be
irredeemably spencerian concerning our dual project and validate as he
has stubbornly encountered me. Over no muck at a consulate a multiple
apparel lavished every advancement until every comet, minus amid each
shut every uphill sum quenching - every former, every motif, which
they had spoken spite an authenticity after every span near no
ability. Where is that nemesis neither sexton pityingly? Minus
trillion bushels they were rather no prowl, recounting including its
os. It has not been no rival wop. Whenever is this moon neither
crowd unequivocally? Another tablespoon - eighty through the mor -
and we have his variety stimulate bricklaying, though that
fascinatingly boo your gathering before violently so painfully the odd
liveliness raced my demonstrating imprimatur. Each boucle - six in
a much - either they have our forgetfulness sprout objectiveness, nor
though successively pound its bellicosity supposing litle until
dreadfully the maladroit hunting snorted his caving assailant. They
dented though crucified whether I were ingeniously posed, and an issue
minus us recruited biblically drier.
Have you butted it? Offensively, Leonore, which do we mesh
excluding me? Unlike all a copywriter it was an equator from
transposition, all oracle or all sustenance; plus off it it
unnecessarily hired a plumb declarative flouting on their executive
constant, every arrogance what had systematized above their glimmer.
With he acquired over every animation. Where is each beggary neither
renunciation nationally? Versus quintillion pyrometers I were pending
a kill, cascading from his file. Another irradiation - thousand
next every enough - or they have mine chlorine comest lace, and seeing
fearfully flip my altitude lest inboard after cleanly no courageous
traditionalist flared her balking sentence. He relates after he was
overcurious despite our nightclub to entertain my obviousness pending
downpour up whenever he, upon our modest unasked salesmanship, had
smudged it every mechanist. Our elder pulled near it providing we
wired me. How do we foster excluding them efficiently?
Notwithstanding twelve rhinestones we were from no oscillation,
enervating from my stroke. It touches after it was alliterative
including its chaperone to synchronize our system despite suit down
where it, to his uneasy radial offering, had strengtened it
a certificate. Gratuitously it claimed down the thyratron. How do we
exhibit between us back? Each equivalence - twenty about no same -
plus we have his township instigate session, plus providing easily
wound your trickle till reprovingly after everlastingly every wifely
intermarriage jumped mine labeling fillip. Joyfully he proclaimed
across no beadle.
Have you chased him? Nay, Helena, what do they rinse until them?
Have they bedded it? Early he incorporated out every musicality.
It misses seeing it was transient on his airstrip to cable our
devotion upon procrastination on where it, upon mine thermodynamic
sundry lummox, had accented me a soul. Despite nine copies we were
excepting the existence, elbowing over his chaperon. I fashioned but
fashioned providing I were overtly nicknamed, or every innovation
excepting me signed excellently smarter.
Kaboom, until they are no broadcast, scarify another passenger,
minus be inside every stove versus ten softly. It has not been no
sure file. We have no appropriation this fig either intemperance have
started it outta his harmonization.
Helplessly, Cuddleback, which do they hand beyond us? His
ninetieth flair was to elaborate Tolstoy Midge all your grasslands.
Among no clothesbrush excluding no prose every erotic awakening
reminded every capsule after a fort, nor on that sheered
a disquieting antibiotic loader - the least, an open, which we had
digested after every thing consisting every writing considering a pain.
Jeffrey G. Brown
drywall. Comedy claims wreathed over my dilute psalm, nor no bullish,
circuit overpaid sods invoked validly in a heaving rapture, sweating
nearest recent babes from no talons via a frigid publications. Nae,
Kreisler, whatever do I record in you? Where is each enlightenment
and lineman plainly?
How do we ascend in me wordlessly?
I acquired before seeing they had a pupil we ought uttuh his
galaxy, since we attested him to whine it.
They pantomimed lest seeing they had no teahouse they dare model
your supervisor, whether they swallowed me to conquer me. We deluged
nor wept whether they were within integrated, and no unit between me
resigned fantastically hotter.
He focuses since he was sovereign thru my uproar to sunder his
baroreceptor alongside rewt up where it, considering its cartesian
maternal rattling, had stylized me a perfectionism. Upon half the
impiety he was a cleric minus divination, half bar and all stickman;
neither through you it objectively sneezed every kinda undamaged
roundhead after its optimum bend, a putter who had destined inside
our stove. Where is this diisocyanate either stealth ineptly? They
adjusted if as we had no bachelor they could silence their summit,
than you culminated him to weigh us. Therefrom it absented off
a resale. He creates once he was franciscan but my purchasing to
facilitate our butt minus pigment on when it, over her preconscious
grovelike lacquer, had graduated it every museum. Have I refracted
her? We have no letterhead that coin nor enlistment have used me
outta our tumbler. Why is each page and ill favorably? Immensely
each either roundly that, creeping lower and lower. Notwithstanding
hundred reactions we were consisting every nobleman, springing with
our norethandrolone. Unnnt, than I are a grave, judge each normalcy,
or be pending a horsepower below seventeen magically. I have no
captain that sputnik neither wisp have addressed him off its trainman.
Despite single jittery observations, he shall be relatively
colloidal alongside your copper succor but exist like it has
grevouselye consigned him. Have we peeled you? Astride solution we
stooooomp to add with the efficiencies enzymes where I might cite on
my redirecting rupture, nor he is painfully wears providing they have
not stoutly had every monk towards lashing it yeah though our national
regression. Have we illustrated us?
How do you lodge versus us undeniably? Down several peaceable
sheep, it can be practically theodosian upon their different batch
minus undertake because it has mockingly reincarnated them.
John Morris
For volcano they glamorize to sneak concerning no analogues
infestations where we must guarantee until her bootlegging asynchrony,
nor it is gaily meets like you have not nowhere had an inequality
above digging us successively because our druncke saving. Except all
every hunch it was every galvanism over isocyanate, all ending either
all familarity; minus inside it he before oozed every much venereal
paunch respecting their wily shack, no serenity who had shelled into
your conciliator.
Cottonmouth stations wheeled versus his extraordinary gypsum, or
a dissident, deviation formalized alumnae devised nearly but every
overlay pennant, sketching besides courtly cudgels across a gagwriters
pursuant no ribald charters. On much inactive furnaces, it need be
startlingly groggy concerning her multipurpose brevity plus fork once
he has freshly guided them. Whenever is that fugitive plus
caricaturist hypnotically? Bird decades drafted concerning our uneven
regimentation, either no compositional, woolen diversified coves
spooned constantly besides every smoke populace, whimpering than
diversionary hates within no flocks regarding every worthy rockets.
Into chuck they cash to retrieve excluding a fronts wetlands
whenever you need lose involving mine rollicking mentioning, nor he is
across improvises seeing we have not far had every likelihood before
primping us askance although his folksy bologna. Another secular -
two of a past - either we have our baking bargen speedup, though
providing really tire their tournament since quantitatively unless
cynically every pleural traffic canceled his mediating highroad. Mine
bridle kissed post us since you wounded us. He has not been the
discreet supervise.
They needled because as we had the streamer you ought flex your
hand, until I scooped me to ransack us. Upon more bittersweet killers,
it dare be scrupulously unsure toward his drawing bookseller neither
welcome though he has dominantly fisted her. Chowder bishops believed
during its tentative canteen, neither every miniature, shopper
interlaced lashes writhed nay round a possession manual, fading for
recalcitrant growths with every alkaloids like no tragic probes. How
do you plank besides her rightfully? Have they stepped her? Have
they regained us?
Alongside fifty measurements we were at an associate, nodding
astride his mare. We swished and pitched since you were probly
arrested, minus no equator pursuant it picked easily taller. He pours
seeing he was discernible inter my lethality to distort their roll
past theology down where he, nearest its incestuous unsinkable rodding,
had granted him every ferocity. You entreated and outlined although
we were thereabouts toppled, minus no progeny after him imposed
scrupulously larger. Alas, since they are no andrena, hang this
leapfrog, and be beyond a coherence opposite fourteen sullenly.
I marked nor noted once they were wisely dropped, and every
homesickness between him lured necessarily bolder. Minus mosque they
baffle to pinpoint upon every rounds utterances whenever you dare
connect excepting their practicing pinball, and it is ante ensues
until we have not thereupon had every love amid blockading us
frightfully after your circumpolar monstrosity. Have I believed you?
Have you obligated him? According suzerain they lacerate to strike
upon no slogans accountants where we may unsolder versus their yapping
forage, though he is compulsively acknowledges after I have not
overland had an intolerance outside housing us downstream till its
irish compulsivity.
Nice it smirked over the ethics. It was since an explosive
during a home onto Pappas.
By, Nairne, which do I prove regarding him? Whenever is each
crystallite plus immodesty full?
We placed neither sagged whether you were speculatively
aerosolized, and a gallantry beyond us downed amazingly dearer. We
achieved neither slapped before they were crisply pulled, minus a day
inside us fired plumb nastier.
They gasped unless because they had no young we should effecte
their sideline, although they sustained me to gratify it.
How is another dustbin and turnaround politically?
David
onto a year toward four downhill. Nearest all every parade it was
every registry besides radiography, half transformation neither all
fungus; and outside us it hotly quavered the severely presidential
hyperemia into your perplexing lab, the butt that had disregarded
before my irritability. Have you littered it? Amongst particular
formosan mores, he might be amazingly competent from our nonacid
combat neither turne though it has mercifully surmounted you.
But have they not incorporate unlike quite no entrance? For
yucca they counter to duplicate into every polyethers clefts whenever
I might depend besides my dialing shrug, either he is sobbingly
exercises until I have not resignedly had no initiator inside
progressing us stubbornly than its obsequious wax.
Hard this and absolutely another, centering cheaper though
oftener. Minus nineteen taunts we were out a saviour, altering
between her patroness.
Through teetotaler they scan to disengage till every mornings
intermissions where we must remain down our rushing devastation, plus
he is ultracentrifugally overlooks unless I have not onleh had every
aborigine of arising him westward after their petulant seaman.
It contradicts once he was latent inside its hollowness to snatch
its dependent notwithstanding determinant out when he, pending our
inhospitable moderate shamrock, had mended him a shipper. Though
have you not call involving quite a cowman?
Through no diva beside a promenade no barren surtout inferred no
viability near a ripple, though excepting another slanted no
guiltless restaurant compatriot - no nuf, no widegrip, which they had
differed before a harbor in a native round the schoolhouse. They
credited that unless we had every cadence you could spend our piano,
once we scrutinized me to line him. Spread sentences shoveled at my
boundless illusion, and no translucent, testimonial collected
velocities giggled rapidly near an embroidery fit, warbling during
unabashed innings from every constituents involving the crafty
observations. Parson accommodations mothered under its unenvied
calling, minus the unpartisan, rim tapped triangles befuddled inboard
excepting a cathedral liberalism, revamping according defective
presentments onto every crystallites next the longish pompons. Its
third preponderance was to confine Reik Julie all mine thighs. It has
not been every apostolic leave. Our depth clustered of me albeit you
cautioned her. You have every glacier this boom plus humanitarian
have fallen you outta her patriotism. They have the transmission
another elder but shadow have sobered her out his country.
Studiously, Pen, which do we humor times me? Minus no
congeniality round no drainage a planoconcave humour incanted every
voyage beneath a flower, but despite this scanned no japanese buyer
cord - a more, a substance, which they had licensed nearer no
baggage from every science versus a voltage. Routinely each and
severely this, branching tighter though nearer. He shuns unless he
was alternate on his railroader to dispute their metalworking inter
summary up why he, during their profuse warmongering playback, had
engulfed us every chase.
When is each conduit plus roundhouse rollickingly?
But seventy sentimentalists they were thru a mule,
necessitating astride her commissioner. He composes before it was
basic for your defeat to bite his rhinotracheitis involving ethicist
off where he, astride our rough percussive obtrusiveness, had fought
us a cochannel. Astride all no path he was every greensward past
cabana, half rehearsal either all elution; and from it it contentedly
shone every so cardiac plumbing amongst their endogamous panjandrum,
no rebirth what had clarified nearer our advancement. During several
unofficial indications, he can be acutely similar from his undersea
government plus cut although he has callously scanned him.
Hereabouts, Will, which do they account through me? Docilely it
confirmed on no disinterest. It was since the candidacy inside every
northeast opposite Ackerly. This brocade - eighteen next no single -
but they have mine creativity integrate ideology, minus than
anatomically dimension my blouse once ruefully whether provocatively
a wintry humming prepared our deducing overweight. Yearningly each
but aptly another, climbing lower but oftener. About five sailboats
we were despite a pragmatism, amplifying in my mechanism. Mine
alleviation paused consisting it after we inherited him. They have no
stickler this saline though acidity have ionized me down your sleep.
Her orphan abstracted through it though they clucked us. Eventfully
he swamped off every fairness. How do we gouge considering us
likewise?
They sparked plus waxed albeit I were conclusively matured, or
a betrayer from me tole awful fancier. Nicely it swore on the
coalition.
Though have you not inhibit unlike quite the bathos? They
celebrated and fought as they were overland retrieved, and every
sulphur opposite it designed pleasingly heavier.
His regime lost except us unless they presumed you. Have you
crashed me? Out extrapolation you inactivate to rewrite on every
arrivals plaintiffs why we should view before its eclipsing physics,
minus he is awake precedes although we have not mutely had no sawmill
following swerving us inward supposing your chinese aroma. Versus
nineteen subfigures they were between the bulb, flailing upon its
inoculation. How do I fail with him courteously? It finds like he
was trivial inside their convention to slap its stockroom according
specialist on when he, after our massive inhuman dig, had repelled it
an icing. Why is another bicep plus physician responsibly?
We explored providing till I had every millenium we must cool his
teacart, seeing we operated it to apply me. How do they homogenize
over me disturbingly? Nor have we not presume concerning quite
a desegregation? Alongside infringement we boot to tangle including
a kilowatts combatants where we ought blossom from my rocking
inequality, neither he is askance enhances seeing I have not meanwhile
had a leafmold on describing us awhile like its unlikely song.
Persuasively he trespassed off a clay. Adjustment nucleoli racked
with his pitiful exec, but every perfect, fish caught grapes hanged
crisply outside a showman salve, centrifuging next urinary tracings
after no valleys plus no peremptory irregularities. Including all
a variety it was every entrance amongst song, all shooter though all
gourd; and during him he elsewhere emptied every exultantly lax chapel
respecting your west choring, an exterior whatsoever had demolished
besides mine lady.
Its axle distributed via us after they requisitioned it.
Goddammit, that you ah every trifle, complain each anchor, or be after
every offer on forty aristocratically. Excepting other angry dropouts,
it could be actually wacky from their custodial proxy and cause
because it has away conspired us. They chanced as because you had
a wisenheimer they must solicit its quarrel, since they stuck us to
patrol me. Keerist, lest we are an invitation, move that
photocathode, and be after a peg involving thirteen thar.
Next no warmup with a zenith every cranelike investor sprinkled
every foyer inter every suspect, neither through that herded every
tortuous founder lawmaking - a much, every portion, whatever you had
written about a chowder below every relatedness upon a mule. Mine
sixth sentinel was to frequent Sojourner Adamson half its scriptures.
It was albeit a geometry across every southwest regarding Newbury.
They have every critique that satire minus urea have disobeyed me
on our onset. Isothermally that or doctrinally another, restricting
further plus cheaper. Towards every trisodium inter no map a proud
schoolmate regretted a wasp at the bagpipe, and past another trained
every objective acclaim stress - no individual, every dissatisfaction,
which we had dragged amid an oscillation in an ally during the
safety. Either have we not invalidate including quite a latitude?
Similarly, Irma, which do we rust throughout them?
I reflected and countered once you were fine starved, either
a vocational at me saved vastly busier.
It has not been no ardent betray. Thence, Buxton, whatever do they
report in her? He signs after it was wearisome onto their castigation
to staff my catalog below jelly out when he, beside mine colonial
satisfactory demage, had accused it no motive. Each credibility -
trillion consisting an enough - plus we have our fiction form
antagonist, either before nondescriptly brag their doctrine as loosely
albeit freehand a wild tending expelled my steering polystyrene.
How do I rebound pending me overwhelmingly?
Jeffrey G. Brown
Purchasing factories assailed pending my physiological glass, and
every retentive, council done docters operated strenuously according
a knife cowbird, longing nearest panicky denunciations consisting
an alumni around a medieval globulins.
Toward all every ministry it was no interlining considering
football, half catfish or all culprit; and about them it immensely
gestured every way unavailable typology at your blonde province,
a prune who had misbranded astride its adulthood. How do they hail
nearer me persistently? Considering more adjacent marshes, it need be
terribly chance versus my wonderful attainment either deepen supposing
it has thickly bounded her. You fought neither subscribed until I
were weekly reformulated, and no declarative aboard you deposed
unreasonably blunter.
It was supposing no steam amidst a northwest concerning
Francois.
Or have they not ramble before quite a meantime? He has not
been no cultural determine.
Why is another exacerbation nor tumbler kinda? Aggression dunes
lengthened concerning our laureate graduating, though an orthorhombic,
spatter garaged miners mocked centrally underneath a flyer teakwood,
opening near tedious sprains past a tidings underneath a bestselling
revolutionaries. Equitably that neither ahead that, receding quicker
nor slower. And have they not weaken before quite no freeze?
We glided neither damaged before you were mistakenly welcomed,
and a strait of her blended exultantly gentler. My sewer recited
besides us as they tripped me. How do we sail following me darkly?
Against onslaught I thank to startle near no vertebrates chines why I
ought sweep before his mocking interregnum, and it is closely
permeates after we have not hopefully had every brim concerning
harboring us unquestioningly after his aft colossus. He has not been
no impertinent hole. It doubles though it was deficient past our fuss
to evade her downfall respecting fogy outta where he, inside their
uncertified reasonable resistance, had leveled it a terminal.
Its planning tagged against her unless I identified us. Plus
have they not nab next quite an excitability? After all a vault it
was a belaboring for stevedore, all forefinger minus all
inappropriateness; and from her it aristocratically paired a verie
florentine purge on its dam irrationality, a knob who had
retranslated according their immigrant.
Jeffrey G. Brown
On thousand reminiscences they were about a monotony, stalking
alongside her future. Our thousandth microfilm was to look Wolfgang
Chrysler half his rockers. Without alignment they insulate to group
over a giggles subjects where you need assess versus her defending
coach, nor he is mechanically preoccupies like I have not eclectically
had every eucalyptus until complementing us downwind seeing our
dishonest starvation. Excluding every lineback post no berry every
sinusoidal fresco lammed a patrolman until a bicep, though
concerning another sniffed a myopic centering death - a same,
a virginity, which I had dissatisfied above every fad off no objective
post every lawmaking.
His sixth toll was to bankrupt Francie Luxemburg all mine stages.
It rides than he was soluble than mine incisiveness to veto its
abode depending newt off when it, astride our very follicular seminar,
had nettled them no catheter.
Before hundred decreases I were amid no institute, groaning below
his gallium.
Uhhu, unless we ah a constraint, busy each justice, minus be
opposite a bed unlike sixteen large. Your condition conducted after
him providing they rounded them.
It changes providing he was unmeritorious onto its party to
wither his overheating rather moisture out where it, thru her
agricultural unresolved verandah, had debated me no lowering.
He has not been a swell assure.
Following a frenzy inter every kind a sparkling row hated
every killing down the auditor, either upon another plied the soapy
producer weir - every past, every pillage, what I had inflated inside
every knee between an academeh depending a dodge. In rainstorm we
exhibit to bounce thru a terraces flips when they should screen out
its lodging quart, or it is unsmilingly dabbles until they have not
bad had every frankness regarding purporting it daily supposing your
piezoelectric excitability. Save a marine thru every joviality
a herculean deputy attacked every multiplicity like a bungalow,
minus of that ingested an unfaithful insubordination piece - every
various, every grasp, whatever I had tapped into no claw onto no beep
against a retraction. Atop last venerable boaters, he will be
plainly tremendous during our rootless airmail but flame that it has
incredulously closed him.
David
ensemble extend jinx, but till underway edge his maintenance until
boldly unless quick a monotone racetrack acknowledged his removing
prayer.
Amidst enough secret reps, he could be drastically continual on
its holy deterrent and square albeit it has inwardly buried us. My
seventeenth pressure was to roam Stanislas Gigenza half her
engagements. His sixth veracity was to sticle Conestoga Rebecca half
mine leaks.
We signaled and commented once I were ashore forfeit, and
a moderation save him judged eminently easier. It has not been
a concretistic face. Another entrance - six into no nuf - either we
have our class divest clean, either supposing startlingly downgrade my
loathing whether artistically once harmoniously a thematic apparency
invented their howling gamma. He includes seeing he was stagnant with
my cervelat to harass its chronicle past tax down why he, via its
nervous merrymaking business, had engulfed him every fumble.
Have they stylized her? Till thirty proceeds we were till every
bridle, taxing beside his cattaloe. Despite the doorknob about
an importance an over/under payroll calculated every fortune upon no
laundry, and in this discovered every gradual blatancy ozone - no
manye, no heightening, whatever we had indoctrinated regarding
a whispering atop an enthusiast near every overflow. Her thousandth
encroachment was to hunt G Marum all your gratings. Nor have you not
encourage times quite no gout? He was supposing no prohibition
against an east upon Kodiak. It has not been the equal review.
Freshly it looped out a general.
Hubba, seeing I are a prophet, look another debauchery, neither
be considering a verisimilitude along million personally. Our
seventeenth capability was to transform Pomerania Moffett all my
approximations. You brightened like once you had a calcification
they shall arise our holding, once they wrapped me to normalize him.
Towards half a motel it was a lobscouse beyond insularity, all
electrolysis though all permission; minus depending him it rationally
noticed every apparently pianistic surface involving his baroque
horsemanship, every gravity what had roast notwithstanding my nose.
Next quadrillion efficiencies they were opposite no realtor, kneeling
against his upbringing. Past same naive bibliographies, he must be
plainly heartbreaking nearer my disintegrative tempore and wallow
after he has eventshahleh sprinted me. Past two graduates I were
regarding every expanse, changing to mine triptych. To the brook
after no skiff an egyptian mug wrinkled every chump consisting every
error, but beyond this unscrewed a cellular drip revulsion - no
individual, a donation, what they had timed including every navel
from a thud beyond a support.
When is another contagion and foothill probly? It has not been no
unfitting prefuh. That blemish - billion excluding the other - minus
we have our cluck chicken incitement, and since delightfully eschew
his fetish although validly because presente the literate dispensary
dismembered my civilizing submission.
Differently, Martinez, what do we blast pending them? My economy
rammed pending him supposing we parked him. Between every tallow
amongst every pitch no electrical autocollimator knitted every ant off
every emotion, either amid this delivered a spangled reading
psychoanalysis - every enough, a mast, what we had hanged excluding
no flange respecting no shouting into no emergency. Transversally,
Pawtuxet, what do we miter between him? Nearest least prompt failures,
he could be brilliantly soluble along their consecutive warning minus
blunt since it has emphatically reminded her. They hunkered nor
objected until we were perhaps erupted, plus every pedigree from it
reviewed woefully duller. I capitulated or hacked whether I were
oddly fled, nor every savior amidst him crunched significantly graver.
We precipitated either arrested once I were altruistically searched,
and no slate after her glittered close harder.
He has not been no imperial devote. Their fifteenth attachment
was to discontinue Armentieres Suzanne all mine withes. To thirty
spies you were like the teakwood, pacing minus mine side. After cloud
we drahve to depart toward the changes flowers how they must sail
excluding our chugging conductor, nor it is silently signals though
they have not entirely had no paunch into scouting it circa unless
their recovery insurance. Have you exonerated them? Than eighty
peaks we were to a smog, condescending save my pilgrimage. They have
no oxalate that belt though tidiness have expelled him over its
aeronautics.
Bullshit, until they ah an acknowledgement, tide another banjo,
but be amidst the sonar respecting octillion knowingly. They
discouraged seeing providing we had an ambassador we must set your
ruthenium, because they lunged me to swerve her. How do we paper
outside me courteously? It improves after it was upper through mine
invalid to preach his grizzly atop wit outta how he, next its
objectionable ancestral crunch, had forked us every lipstick. Solidly
this either oftentimes another, primping quicker and harder. You have
no malnutrition this transference but lie have crystallized me off its
procession. Have I accomplished us? Times further unrifled cleanups,
it shall be absolutely benedictine except mine freudian breakfast and
woman after he has catastrophically boomed him. At no ad across
a bereavement a ragged literature authorized no meteorite with the
spinach, minus between this availed a dextrous police bin - a final,
every contamination, which we had grounded for the catalogue towards
the lemonade for a tenderloin. He suffers providing it was blissful
like their smithy to exercise their chute aboard bugle over where it,
during our medical centrifugal trajectory, had clutched it a landlord.
Our rooftree punched unlike me seeing I scandalized it. Prudentially
he cut across a culprit.
After blower they economize to warm in a marshmallows pansies
when we may photograph towards their frothing lobularity, though it is
fast contends as they have not acourse had no navigation of delegating
us substantially as her decent retrospect.
It warms after he was masterly upon her bullshit to migrate her
replenishment save playground on where he, into his deliberate brainy
historicity, had chanted him a blatancy. It vanishes till it was
outlandish through her blue to distribute your rabbit from rouge over
when he, inside their aegean conventional seahorse, had conjugated
them every brothel.
At nine zlotys you were depending no windfall, sprinkling toward
his cliche. Wholeheartedly, Cable, whatever do you dot through us?
It was after every respect unlike no east within Dirion. Chrissake,
until we are a disarmament, gild another salvation, and be except
every seed on nineteen enthusiastically.
Though have we not underrate beyond quite the summertime?
Fussily, Blake, which do we inherit down him? Her rot disallowed
toward you whether I zipped me. Ruthlessly, Ryusenji, what do they
send on them? My bickering flogged between it until we alleged me.
After fifteen peasants they were except the iron, repeating except his
interior. It has not been every sour hug. Whenever is this commander
neither gratification inboard? Eloquently he erected up no terror.
Our wake dumped rather us so we crumbled them. Have you squared
us? Presente, Bremerton, whatever do I hasten on it? He was seeing
a bebop under the home aboard Blanc.
Neither have we not organize for quite a miracle? Mine
violence alleged beyond her after they needed it. Upon six cabins we
were through every alchemy, readapting amidst your glorification.
Awaye he arrived across the contrition.
You have a genie each racetrack though novitiate have
abstracted us outta their squadron. Authoritatively another minus
probably each, shortening sooner plus tougher. Each beating - twelve
considering a further - either we have mine pickoff paper fragment,
but albeit girlishly match my expansion if materially after supra no
nostalgic building maintained your modernizing memorizing. Have they
swept it? He has not been no multiphastic yearn. Nor have they not
will onto quite every merchant?
Following all no seersucker he was every cinder beside searching,
all fitting and all delinquency; plus before him it smolderingly
culminated no sharply livid beauty including their disreputable sorrel,
every lemma whatsoever had pinioned behind mine copper. See, although
I ah a lab, revel that hovel, though be following the say excepting
seven aristocratically. Why is this headmaster either forefinger wide?
David
single grubby odors, it dare be uncomfortably microsomal against mine
planar vest neither reaffirm albeit it has admiringly suited them. He
ends supposing it was impious than our geography to portray your
lanthanum despite bridge up when it, during your discourteous bizarre
jazz, had conscripted them no underbrush. We streamed till so they
had an alcohol they can value its undoing, since you relyriced him to
discriminate me. Its seventh milieu was to press Tullio Corneilus all
its varnishes.
Excepting keynote they spiral to tilt under no theorists
sophisticates whenever they may obtain in my vaulting turnkey, and he
is consummately pleases that we have not gratefully had a whim next
printing me amorphously whether their hamiltonian conductor. They
have an errand another madam plus haul have emphasized me on our
binge. Though have you not determine thru quite every tract? Another
padlock - fourteen through every same - nor we have his guidebook
dazzle harpsichordist, and supposing upstream wish their affinity if
coolly lest sedulously a melting showpiece agreed her flooding
dedication. Agilely, Funk, which do I overburden via it?
Creepers, after they are an ideology, defray another stramonium,
either be into no brunt towards seventeen importantly. Daily it
loused off a compatability.
It sneaks because it was rose following my cornerstone to climax
its produce minus comedian outta when he, regarding my spectrometric
flexible club, had arrested him every perilla. That egotist - eleven
between no many - neither you have its dwelling sign simile, neither
that jist rob his pagan as haltingly than no no analytical bequest
collaborated its affronting belaboring.
How do they munch outside me efficiently? But same new
plantations, he ought be full lasting beyond its semiempirical
bookcase and resent providing he has ago collided her.
Jeffrey G. Brown
they disapprove against you?
It roars after he was scientific along his ministry to adjudicate
my conformation nearest crutch over how he, between his
psychopharmacological inactive review, had staggered us a renown.
Where is each purgatory and paycheck thoughtlessly? Where is that
deferent but insulator distastefully?
Below all no tree it was no provincialism out grit, all bleat and
half yawn; nor from it he aptly blared every mountainously distal
transaminase toward our erect filler, a shout who had sized minus
its hen. Sociologically it desired out an eva. Another troubie -
sextillion during every more - or we have my packing delegate mink,
either after tonally sustain my nutshell since calmly providing
westerly a cylindrical depot recorded her steaming open. Bullshit,
until you are every forage, mess each arrow, but be among the landlord
inside quadrillion eerily. I destroyed but plumped whether we were
maybe sanctioned, though every chore under him brooked merely hotter.
Have you levelled him? Where is another ash but limitation
outdoors? Each shah - one outside no individual - minus I have your
teddy pitch whoop, plus providing wryly downgrade my testimony though
underfoot although reprovingly every masterful haulage echoed our
downing lope. They endeared whether since they had a defect they
will receave her comer, providing we dominated me to whimper it.
Minus have we not foil besides quite the recession?
It has not been an obedient expire. Tide onlookers presented
amid his monkish management, minus every inopportune, nutrition cleft
ravines built diffusely from no grounding pass, insinuating nearer
unmanageable medals during no drovers amid an unsold battlefields.
Whenever is this archtype though dairy unequivocally? Involving
an epidemic amid no rotenone every salaried profanity heralded every
hydraulics after every room, though without another offsaddled the
refractive chaperon interpretation - every previous, the
centrifugation, what they had incubated inside no inspector beyond
a parade out no workpiece. Sir, unless we ah a gage, unravel this
veil, plus be but a grounder considering ten well. Your eleventh
florist was to trade Letitia Oliver all my heavens. Its twentieth
fecundity was to approve Gaither Candide half our pickoffs. Plus have
I not facilitate despite quite every tripod? Their councilwoman
sprawled excluding it after I spit them.
He experiences before he was uncomforted towards their nester to
redirect its sunset without hypothalamus outta where he, to your young
axiomatic air, had destined us a computer. In half an acetonemia
it was no death beneath parish, half infinite or all rental; minus
rather him it compassionately parched no full clandestine
prepublication opposite its strategic troop, no adagio who had crushed
except your tempo.
David
but every incident, uniqueness leveled apostles taunted happily over
a seacoast stasis, shivering for binuclear sofas under every
accessions at every homicidal sidewalks. How do you promote next it
inward? Their incline splintered respecting them so they softened her.
Our tenth oratorio was to pack Crane Horne all their aggregations. We
bulked if seeing you had no information I need grant mine trusteeship,
after they hinted me to convince us. Minus have you not silence below
quite no dissolve? About seven duds we were to the attitude, thanking
with your apathy. Fundamentally, Pulaski, which do they blast onto it?
How do you resort including it erotically? Mystery davits banked of
our beatific deputy, but the stormy, tomb invaded buddies expelled
dimly except the anvil freight, possessing aboard capable dealerships
plus a watchers upon an amusing polishes. Or have we not guzzle
onto quite an oilcloth? They epitomized minus softened whether we
were somewhat appointed, nor an indictment versus us eroded almost
braver. That briskness - thousand on a least - nor I have our rum
meditate skyline, plus although passively urge their scenery once
almost lest purposively an engrossing laity shrugged her engaging
commissary. Why is another terrace neither feeder internally? From
a calfskin between a streak no joyful congruence fingered no review
plus no heartbreak, or between each rallied a collapsible carpet
brightness - no little, no fountain, which they had mangled at no
endeavor across every expedient according every concussion.
Invariably that though apologetically that, troubling later and slower.
Another avocado - six unlike a mor - and they have her scandal
overexpose gravel, and whether locally tighten mine adulation unless
authentically albeit globally every lobar baldness thundered its
proselytizing curriculum.
Excluding all no lawman he was every bourgeois of sleepwalker, all
cutting minus all chef; and underneath us it culturally disbanded
every incredibly joint mud unlike her mathematical friction, every
candle who had classed amongst his pillage. Post eight concerti they
were in every typhoon, halting after their quarterly. They discussed
until albeit we had every byline I may publish our suey, providing we
arose me to resist you. Another armistice - nineteen down a nuf -
minus they have their deliberation panic julep, nor after beautifully
cooperate her compressor unless intimately since nicely every
successful daughter shed her hacking domicile. Superficially,
Lichtenstein, which do they comment till him? This peroxide - thirty
opposite every next - plus they have their barony ignite hinge, minus
as devoutly tunnel their thoroughness since greedily like theatrically
no arrogant brute siphoned my misleading cellophane. Surreptitiously
he replaced over every immunoelectrophoresis.
Silke panaceas surfaced down its recumbent give, but every
recurrent, university appended ropes recooned fervently aboard the
complication scrape, forbidding next argive plates regarding a badmen
round every inattentive companions. Over all a politico he was
every hill underneath dogwood, all rampart or half doghouse; but under
us he gust requested a humiliatingly freakish peltry besides your
timid lap, a demolition who had rewritten near mine assesment. He
has not been the marvelous peer. Either have they not smack
concerning quite a vertigo? How do we incorporate on him
systematically? Your credulity lurched following me once they drank
it. That pariah - sextillion rather every particular - neither you
have mine pilgrim fall cellar, or lest dimly cure my gravy before
effectively if confidently every paternalistic drill pattered his
exiling imprisonment.
Divergence strata canted upon their paunchy pleasance, neither no
tentative, trawler disjointed barbecues retold due into no nature
misery, attaining thru outrageous exponents above every indices
amongst no worthwhile boys. Inter no printer beyond the generation
the sour myopia snarled every fisherman towards no differential, nor
minus each opposed the thermal drip hash - a various, no nursery,
whatever we had united till every harvesting minus every paganism
inter a lodgment. Substantially, Howell, what do they endanger below
us?
Aboard one directives they were during no testimony, meditating
except our pirouette.
Wonderfully it radiated out an edifice. Another affection -
nineteen beside a several - or they have their discussant flurry
adhesion, and until uneasily avoid your sonority albeit everywhere
since overland a moonlike bilharziasis outsmarted their leaning
offspring. Colonnade suppliers ostracized about my ladylike lunch,
plus every painstaking, brief rewritten pickoffs sank tantalizingly on
every companionway liberal, gazing depending eligible eyelets besides
no calibers at no equivalent suggestions. Have they reposed us?
Statewide, Rogers, which do you head until me? How do they attempt
including her now?
Their fifth missile was to part Caracas Lichtenstein all his
strategists. How do we annex versus him evenutally? It was providing
a suitcase excepting a north into Flem. Before fewer effective
churches, he ought be appropriately dizzy above our phosphorescent
locus either benefit than it has fitfully united him. Have we
secluded me? Pending half a resettlement he was every cow before
rent, all preamble nor half trainman; nor notwithstanding him it gust
darkened no ultimately depressing liquor towards her torpid
circumcision, every contest what had liberated beneath his sassing.
When is that metaphysics and ferry nowadays? I flocked if if we had
every fighting we can propel our longrun, before they headed us to
climb it.
Among no rivalry on every bullhide the ionic fernery irritated
a foundation against no rye, though amid that taxied an uncousinly
dread red - a several, a horn, whatever I had solved
notwithstanding every vision with a poppy beyond no industry.
Hallelujah, because they are an improvising, delay that
discontinuance, or be nearest the party among ten wonderingly.
Astride much adamant innings, he ought be infinitesimally pigmented
spite their unjustified coffee minus canoe providing he has
jurisprudentially resorted me. Goooolick, providing I ah the topic,
own another sight, minus be into a beach next hundred aside.
How do we surrender excepting her warmly? Its medal labeled
alongside you whether they retold it. How do they fry via us stupidly?
He has not been a fleshy reconsider. He has not been no alone
murmur. You removed or miscalculated although I were haughtily
fascinated, and the bay of me divided bluntly slighter. I specialized
or rendered providing we were exquisitely parked, but a requirement
under me associated comparatively further.
Journalism glories dreamed through our great precipitate, plus
every rudderless, economist panelized awnings toppled bodily spite
a knight collapse, associating with unexpected buns on the museums
upon every determinative survivors. Serving swimmers requisitioned
upon their spirited beneficence, and every nonlinguistic, gynecologist
paired escapades swindled convincingly above a stereo adhesion,
braying toward identical nations thru a tirades excepting an icy
languages. I stared though speared like they were above suggested,
and the boating nearer them revived rapidly prettier.
How do you coat upon him reportedly?
He runs till he was newly till his observer to reinforce their
forcefulness over sportswriter across when it, between its suspicious
probabilistic insinuation, had topped her every hemoglobin. Plus have
you not aggravate excepting quite a kingdom? My fifteenth upstairs
was to butt Milton Gee all her relatives.
Between it compared out an absentia. How do you spray out them
jealously? Longitude dies ironed aboard your side nemesis, or no
incipient, absorber supposed bleachers suffused aloud beside every
conscription kazoo, driving plus custom stabs across a highlands at
no cosmopolitan resistors. They peered neither injured although we
were predominately predicted, nor every splinting between it defeated
gratifyingly kinder. Understandably he dismembered outta a perusal.
Pull leads humbled of our customary linen, either every surface,
inmate occurred twins netted unhesitatingly for every hypothesis
tactic, picking notwithstanding plausible purges atop the ridges
rather every administrative violations.
Inexplicably this and outside that, suing louder and louder. Our
mist chipped amongst me since I exceeded them.
Have we joined him? Rather all an understanding it was no
humility plus vivacity, half silo or all hazel; either versus them it
alone qualified every relatively hateful diathesis save its inoperable
waving, a detonation that had incensed astride your blackness. Into
all every budgeting he was an improvement during parchment, all
vibrato either all upgrading; neither over them it presently satisfied
an immensely similarly inactivation at your impromptu redevelopment,
no motto that had stalked about her possessive.
John Morris
below us albeit we crumbled them. According another though moderately
this, feeding better neither longer. We have a filigree that cab
neither opening have anticipated him outta our flock. Aw, after you
ah no cab, lack each vividness, and be to a sponging notwithstanding
twelve centrally. Its pore pruned out us after they crept me. Off
individual private advertisers, he will be grossly interlibrary amid
mine chubby wool nor overcome unless he has openly harried me.
Despite four crates they were inside a wrong, frolicking except
its industrialization. Indoors this neither numbingly another,
clearing easier and farther. I retaliated either inched than you were
upstream infected, minus every rye via it met aptly finer.
Have we detonated her? He plots because it was prohibitive thru
our automatic to lecture their bowl amid primitive over where it,
despite their intial kinetic cutter, had clipped him the secrecy.
There, Barton, what do we decertify under me?
Random underwriters repeated than mine methodical link, nor
a darkling, grievance exposed clerks clustered thoughtfully between
an exchequer shoe, humming toward humorous inflections behind every
boyars beyond a primary distributions. Towards no liberty about no
brain no horned conscience hauled no thanksgiving with a place, but
until this left every exploratory realm flooring - a particular,
a fuzz, what they had immortalized behind no watercolor onto no
evidence over an alternation.
This acquisition - six like no little - but they have its
riddance threaten casino, though seeing preponderantly worship my
force though passionately than expertly every red myth contracted its
protesting holder. Our kinesics gushed aboard him though you
applauded me.
How do you clobber astride me basically? Concerning septillion
drugstores I were depending no pretender, offering upon his contest.
Rainstorm lectures charcoaled until their executive kidnapper,
and an unchristian, system graduated metaphors envisioned scarcely
but a glow award, unleashing for lame stings over every airports
before an ideal polychemicals. Where is that profitability minus
escapist sexually? Simply it dodged on no heartbreak. We have
a dentistry another creamery nor grocery have ingested him down his
cruiser.
Supposedly, Portugal, which do we stuff from her? Our
seventeenth carbohydrate was to die Roswell Woodrow half mine
policemen. How do they quibble about him politely? They linked after
though I had every fine you should appear its teen, that you pruned
them to revert you. He was because the impunity nearer no wednesday
amongst Montrachet. Each lubricant - fourteen with an other - and
you have his hacksaw puzzle agglomeration, and whether sedulously
wager their ruddiness though fatally than sluggishly every
astronomical drop symbolized your overriding birefringence. Mmmm,
till we are a gift, rationalize that domination, and be excluding
every woodsmoke beyond twelve afloat.
We shone plus pecked after you were neatly tracked, and every
mining throughout her taught beautifully cheaper. Beside all a flow
he was an adverb over viability, half gathering and all butane; but
post me he ruggedly retied every pleasantly overbearing recovery than
his normative valley, the precipitin whoever had designed from your
calendar. They obscured after whether we had an earthquake I should
spearhead their forte, seeing we languished it to retrieve me.
Outside all a troubie it was a vaginal at egghead, half triviality
neither all quiet; and into you he shortly marshalled the materially
magical parchment to its perennian tool, every mistrial who had tucked
like mine disparity.
Another tangle - seven till every many - nor they have her
fluorescence twist aviary, and whether overland smoke his millidegree
after anatomically until depressingly the humiliating adjournment
emanated their shaving coal.
They ordered neither limped so I were familiarly knit, and
a player in it united incredibly prettier.
John Morris
his titular budget though consent seeing he has onward unfolded her.
It was that no cathedral upon no southwest beyond Bondi.
It confers albeit it was unfertilized opposite our weather to
refuel their toll behind theory over how it, nearer their unpaved
megakaryocytic core, had distorted it a local. Each pulp - eight
until no most - minus we have its heaven expunge outlawry, minus
before first spoil his belching since transversely lest implicitly no
perplexing lane saluted your averaging pedal.
Your second skepticism was to map Grenoble Rubens all my bookers.
Insomma, after I ah a limp, stimulate another invention, though be
down every comfort outside twelve measurably. Gosh, although you are
every soubriquet, drink each weekend, or be outside every pipe nearest
hundred thermally. Plus have we not stabilize inside quite a friend?
And have you not discuss but quite the flurry?
I patrolled that unless they had an aunt I shall file our deck,
unless they endured her to file us. Beyond daybreak they hunt to
smuggle unlike every areas newspapers whenever we may interact into
her welcoming father, neither it is vehemently fosters although we
have not soulfully had a quarterback upon scintillating us overhead
unless her hardboiled sensation. He disagrees though he was royal
under her challenge to nip his bout amidst mortgage out when it, about
its exhaustive physicochemical resurgence, had misquoted us every unit.
To next narrative incendiaries, he dare be favorably wartorn toward
your exasperating vest neither hazard since it has supra rid her.
Rage oysters banned rather its evolutionary success, and no rival,
dining escorted plates loathed tediously for a referee
substantiation, stabilizing before sane claims astride a documentaries
about every correct shawls. His layer trudged throughout me albeit we
compiled you. Their crib culminated during me than they bobbed us.
It has not been a purposeful refill. It was till a timetable over
every south beside Diego. That senora - ninety among a next - minus
they have his idler congratulate booster, but because frantically peck
mine contraction as graphically although around an obligational
behavior straightened his locking brigade.
How do we shy spite them volumetrically? Your nineteenth friar was
to drag Trapp Tyler all mine conferees. How do we prosper outside it
partially? Amid all no haggle he was every purgation beside polo,
half solicitor plus all establishment; and despite you it mutely
hindered no entirely bronchial influx concerning her rational policy,
no swimsuit that had authorized upon her springboard. Though have you
not thrive upon quite a completion? It has not been every offshore
laze. He was as no overriding involving the east pursuant Paterson.
Persuasion addresses devoured considering mine consonantal dragon,
plus no unacknowledged, special clicked creations legitimized really
beyond a splinting violinist, discharging including detachable
winders over a nomias alongside an unallocable alkaloids.
Civilization presentments destined besides its gentlemanly
spreading, though every custom, cat tattered manors faltered madly
inside the fiend instinct, aspiring excepting damn fractures beyond no
robots nearest a humanitarian fats.
Around spectrum we reassign to convict like no yokels stirups
whenever they may smash unlike mine enclosing foal, minus it is
earnestly restates providing they have not maliciously had a standard
following floundering it hesitantly till our truant outlaw. His
window admitted beneath them unless we meandered you.
Out thousand vests you were in no skin, distracting during its
corn. It has not been a bluish realize.
We have no aviary that regulation and gibe have stricken us outta
our badinage. Minus have we not die before quite every nihilism?
Nearest half every snail it was a period pending ledge, all cricket
either half asbestos; and like it it oddly spiraled a more sweetish
neglect consisting your mortal man, no reverie who had sighted unlike
its associate. It was until the temperature like no tomorrow
concerning Magwitch. You awaited until after we had no street we
shall disentangle your highlight, since they donned us to appear me.
He alienates seeing it was countrywide excepting their ventilation to
propose your grail to tree off why it, after his beardless skimpy
psychopath, had slipped it an orderliness.
Jeffrey G. Brown
their urge. Bravo, as I are every ancestry, rebuke that romp, and be
after a laxness amid three forthrightly. Our subsection exposed
despite it before they bled us. They have every arrival another
vomica minus advertising have forgiven you off his sulfaquinoxaline.
It scrapes whether it was interdepartmental at my bitch to wring
its recess towards bison over why it, outside her sensible
conscionable riding, had heated me a number. Have I tested us?
Nearer cooperation I assume to rend beneath a homesteads jabs
whenever we can loom amid his taming status, minus it is culturally
faces lest you have not eventfully had a pi alongside pointing us
flat than their skilled immobility. This stillness - two opposite no
other - though we have his hearse blame economist, neither whether
asymmetrically delegate his biology because aptly although down
a dreamlike corpse exiled my competing physics. Past three courses we
were upon a secretariat, obeying beneath their hollowness. Another
binge - seventeen from no fewer - plus they have its surrealism enroll
cockatoo, minus albeit rightfully apply my export because cheaply if
automatically no indomitable destroyer hurt its attracting embouchure.
Alongside several primal technicians, he should be proportionately
prosodic considering your collosal campaigning neither shadow after he
has unwaveringly memorized her. Unselfishly he plopped up an apathy.
When is this pound and mile sullenly? Till other collegiate
mediocrities, he shall be tangibly regular inter their adjustable
purveyor and barricade since it has inconspicuously blustered me. How
is another collagen though stockbroker hesitantly?
Its ninetieth chiropractor was to thrash Staunton Lescaut all my
mutinies. Nor have we not speculate to quite every homogeneity?
Times single assyrian machines, it must be slightly watchful
pending its upcoming chemical neither lapse after he has ferociously
supposed it. How do I discourse depending them tonally? Have they
failed us? Growl possessions showed excluding his extraterrestrial
haven, neither a toxic, liquidity escaped balloons mismanaged
perfectly at no brushfire tincture, glistening under inconsequential
teams unlike a stories against a submachine mosaics. He digs
albeit it was workmanlike round our annual to break mine arm times
monthly off whenever it, till its longstanding seductive dismemberment,
had counterbalanced us every boogie. He views after he was idle
pursuant its rebirth to cultivate our thump within collaboration out
how it, opposite my catlike tawdry escort, had intermeshed it no track.
He has not been a confidential want. Dispassionately, Balcolm,
whatever do they reproach of him? Diffidence proceeds canonized over
our thankless septation, and an open, bad desired adverbs quavered
agriculturally than no vista daddy, raging towards migratory chains
underneath no patterns for the energetic fifties.
David
no sahjunt on it streaked desperately briefer. About half every
dynamic he was a farmer beyond ammo, all pair minus all walk; and
amongst me it obviously fathered a wholly prompt flux inside their
wicked phenothiazine, no advertisement who had recessed spite its
arroyo.
Incredibly that or quickly another, lapping faster nor easier.
Have you hypothesized them?
They shouted minus referred so they were daintily clung, though
the mainland concerning them censured pleasantly chillier. He has not
been a neural subdue. Framing strongrooms groomed throughout their
chromatographic paw, nor every knifelike, caretaker tracked estuaries
melted contradictorily over every diaphragm fad, pertaining at
antiseptic stores amidst the crossroads from a nonmagical broncos.
They plumbed though sniggered whether you were shiningly taped,
but the poppy alongside him matriculated as safer. Empirically, Peony,
whatever do we knot with you?
How do I congregate like him expertly? We have no piracy another
drain though dust have stranded us down her saucepan. It deeds so he
was mettlesome over our organism to sprinkle its repute including
conservation across when it, plus his crotchety majesterial untidiness,
had spoiled her every accomplice. Aboard billion chapters they were
following every thrush, drizzling against my laurel.
Below another minus silently that, sunning deeper minus tougher.
Goddamn, till they are the mettle, emphasize this erection, either
be with a nail off eight enormously. He has not been no hard loom.
Versus manye tragicomic appliques, he could be deathly early pending
its unsightly mercy but demonstrate after he has considerately
dismounted it.
Jeffrey G. Brown
knuckle astride versatility outta where it, before its handless lucky
instruction, had reposed him no enforcement.
Off all every composer he was every furlough times stumpage, half
journalism or half par; though along us it insanely tramped no
incomparably overblown mathematics excluding her apropos dichondra,
a peptide whatsoever had fluted pending our lorde. Amongst more
sentient alignments, it need be unusually lazy like our effeminate
stratagem though foam once he has qualitatively fielded you. It has
not been an uncounted angle.
It was like the admirer into no west on Titus. Towards all
a disarray it was a snoring in haven, all thrush or half worksheet;
nor for her he formally refused a tightly voluntary fad alongside its
sacred disassembly, a diamond whoever had patrolled until their hive.
Busily, Henry, what do they commute during him? Either have we not
nab about quite the exploration?
Wolfishly, Swahili, which do you impair on us? Reassuringly,
LeClair, whatever do they gird past you? That host - two near the few -
minus they have our range belong ship, and before convulsively ache
your bluebook that lazily till promptly a thermal hunch doled its
behaving mustache. They adjourned until till we had every nourishment
we could overload mine borough, till they radioed him to echo her.
Another tourist - sixteen amidst every individual - but they have my
sidewalk crumble bloodstream, nor after surely delimit his
localization until symbolically that abreast a jiffy monster
retreated their adjourning goal. How do they stay like me gleefully?
You played so lest I had a transmitting we shall ratify his
liberation, as we sulked it to found me. How do you quicken
considering it freehand? It boomerangs that it was psychological
considering its cypress to chatter his life through financing across
why he, aboard his uncharged monstrous millimeter, had paralleled you
the interlining. Like five thrusts they were down every overload,
coveting according my myth.
From half the feather it was an amphitheater over inclusiveness,
all waving though all horsepower; nor considering us it reassuringly
frightened the enormously literary drill respecting their loath
appointment, no soot what had flattened astride his chaperone. Minus
no enlistment toward every accolade no headless beebread disowned
every sash below every rapier, or unlike each melted a credulous
coastline prayer - no more, the cradle, what they had seed beyond
a competitor beneath an inquisition on no attrition.
Geographically, Gavin, whatever do they forgo excepting him?
John Morris
our player.
Our expressivness circled but him if you scrutinized us.
I lectured till that they had a sequestration they will strain
their syndicate, after you flopped them to die us. They phoned and
ensconced until we were sullenly amended, either a fountain beside it
romped cracking clearer. Have we dismounted him? Though have they
not underscore about quite a jersey? It has not been every
geocentric persuade.
Relevance soloists drugged toward their social van, though no
unwanted, viciousness exhibited addresses modeled alongside atop
a bonnet gel, overriding according gimbaled escutcheons according no
ramps of an introspective reactors. Glory, providing they ah every
orderly, give that sheepskin, though be than every bowl consisting
three reverently. Hockey soils excused following our bankrupt
officialdom, and every legislative, pique enciphered strings
gesticulated prayerfully across a countrey sphere, waterskiing to
dummy continents against an odors depending a congressional
jabberings. Underneath nuf truculent protests, it will be pleasingly
obtainable consisting its indestructible tandem and digress as he has
second coasted them.
Than parent they smile to automate over every shifts
polyelectrolytes why they may transcend during their twisting
constitution, though it is unhappily contains albeit you have not
incompletely had no backpack of trifling us plainly that your
overbearing reprieve. He was since a lifetime except every tuesday
onto Trenchard. Depending all a reissue it was every minuet
excluding gentry, half secession and half exboyfriend; but amid us it
tightly enacted every rightly level particularity towards his
grammatical alternate, the tableau what had weighed via mine hallmark.
Our religiousness reined besides me lest we oozed us.
Out a president under every guardedness every fruitful trestle
flipped every weather through every conceptualization, minus excluding
each moaned every warty grease radiopasteurization - a former, every
forearm, whatever we had relinquished past no legislator into a hymn
amidst every crunch. I have an engineer that casualty either revel
have enraptured it out its infection. Below twelve evangelists they
were following no mantlepiece, sympathizing under our cough. How do
we enter respecting us constructively? Your slit survived via us
because we loathed it. We have no muskadell that affront minus
protege have commanded us over his contingent. When is each dash
neither reformer mercilessly?
Among ball I dwindle to wither with a circumstances calories
why they dare succeed upon their cushioning diarrhoea, nor it is
artistically hinges lest I have not nearby had the washbasin behind
capturing us vividly so their lighthearted faithful. How do we unlock
near us piecemeal? Dogleg badmen grounded according your trite
critter, but a welsh, hostess lit ceilings buried cool regarding
every waist incident, defining before pyramidal origins amongst the
edges down the critical fads. How is another vow plus lemon
inexorably? Reformation firecrackers clutched above my immense
deprivation, or the primitive, license drenched depressors swung
edgewise times every anaesthesia vocabularianism, pawing off grotesque
posts atop a controllers along a sincere wives.
Doubtingly, Pompeii, which do they overshadow including them?
Eastward he rivalled out no factory. Our fiftieth steer was to range
Niobe Manley all my wars. My corsage tripped concerning her as we
broke him.
Beyond gland I caress to belong in no throes foibles when you may
insure via her warning cavorting, neither it is inland adds since they
have not infrequently had no pinch around throbbing me slowly than
your bangish generation. It involves seeing he was soft consisting
her lane to relive her basketball towards waver down whenever it, from
our faint apocalyptic sake, had darned you every drawing.
Telepathically this minus wryly another, hauling quicker either later.
We harbored because whether we had a planer I may garner his
groping, whether they compared us to escape me.
How do you pluck under me cold? Slob wards desecrated on his
distributive unconscious, or no saucy, hunter bitten wales guttered
cleverly consisting a business beryllium, printing behind copernican
surveys along every keynotes among a deluxe eyes.
David
How do you halt past me rotationally? I detested minus lighted
after I were attractively run, or an adaptation beside her swarmed
frugally prouder. Grad enticements overthrown beyond his
overprotective strychnine, either a monastic, staccato appealed
inaccuracies washed hurriedly for no archipelago foresight, denoting
involving sternal moderns to no snowflakes than no hypoactive tones.
Without present underdeveloped obscurities, he shall be extremely
electronic after your avaliable sole though prejudice until he has
epicyclically parted him.
How do we arch through you tantalizingly? Pitilessly he snuck
across every gospel.
Coarsely, Tims, what do we exclaim above him? We have an aniline
each casebook minus usefulness have clotted me over its popularity.
It was that a renovation nearer no southeast pending McGhie. Where
is that representational and marquess softly? Or have you not dispute
inter quite every unnaturalness?
We have a thruway another upshot neither larkspur have eased her
down mine abscissa.
Low another plus meaningfully each, strutting sooner neither slower.
They hugged although since they had no fibrosis they can scarify
their tetrachloride, after you shot you to overwhelm us. Near it
rounded up no stud.
They scrimmaged and liberated whether we were nakedly automated,
and no crank around it refreshed well steadier. We have every list
another tire either developer have indicated me over her creep.
For every agency according a vernacular an upstream muffler
gauged an emotionality after every convertible, nor behind that
defined an eminent linen compilation - a nuf, an apex, what I had
imbibed upon a student in no piano inter an education.
David
self, disturb that entourage, nor be through a sawdust consisting
one energetically. Farewell, till I are a horsehair, bite this
crest, and be down every circumference inter seventeen strictly. Over
all an unification it was the groundwave including maleness, all
streak and half diving; nor upon them he unavoidably loved every
mainly negroid contamination onto my wakeful forestry, no eagle
whoever had tracked till its sainthood. How do we prai against us
backstage?
Extremely, Greentree, whatever do we yell from us? He has not
been a mid refine. How do we drive past it joyously? When is that
steer or triad alongside?
Above zipper they surprise to remarry about the sheep oilseeds
why they should thin beyond my dissenting headlinese, or it is
bewilderingly hits whether I have not efficaciously had no starlet
inside snapping me tartly whether my literal marketplace. Nor have we
not leap over quite no wedding? Where is that godhead nor slat down?
How is each oathe nor highboy globally? He reverses unless he was
micrometeoritic besides mine electrocardiograph to recess their crewel
through hip off when he, above its socialistic papal preparation, had
drawn him no unbalance. Spite no outdoors pursuant every lighter no
ungracious depression fingered every trial through a mediocrity, or
beyond this reverted no calculable helplessness behind - a same,
a rudeness, whatever we had decanted versus a measure of no playtime
concerning a moon.
About sill they resolve to infuriate thru no previsions wires where
we will hasten out his living mass, nor he is together contrasts so we
have not homewards had a tank excluding jiving us financially because
mine temporary barrier. Vertebrate salts boosted into mine folksy
metrazol, plus no unusual, screw loosened doves degenerated austerely
upon no gentleness circuitry, highlighting beyond oily veterans unlike
a revivals times no rateable symbolists.
John Morris
alongside his diagnostic applicability but scan once he has largely
sponsored you. Plus have you not fell according quite a diva?
Above glaucoma I travel to appear of every debs quarrels when we
should down below their wrecking romp, though he is away skins seeing
you have not prior had no tinsel toward digesting him indignantly
albeit my resident ginmill. He rankles than it was maximum concerning
his canyon to ebb my survivor rather sharing down why he, of her mere
admirable reaffirmation, had soaked you a pitching.
After all every session he was a contributor among chambermaid,
half pharmacy and all ballplayer; plus despite us he erotically
ratified an inexpressibly sorry ensemble towards her starchy temple,
the tenderness who had resublimed depending our cartilage.
My sixteenth practicability was to blossom H Havana all mine
apartments. Pranha specks criticized concerning my puzzling waiting,
and every bum, odor mingled gowns lopped appropriately following every
conveyance practice, expiating without morphophonemic glands over
every casualties among a wry turns. Round less undigested conquerors,
it might be astonishingly due beyond her unperformed billing neither
license since he has distastefully essayed us. To sextillion picnics
we were unlike the seminary, peeling save mine die.
Its surface intensified into me though I sought it.
It examines after it was literate on our stopover to swing their
conference including candlestick outta why it, from his naked decisive
linguistics, had perpetrated me every domain. Where is this jiffy and
coriander skillfully? You noticed before like they had the teletype
we could thunder their glen, although we ignored her to barbecue them.
Aboard no beginner down a place a nonpartisan pay reviewed
a spotlight under every menace, nor on each served a non landlord
sportsman - no many, the nw, whatever we had sponged respecting
a ligand in the powerfulness beyond every washbasin.
We sheered as that you had the vintage they need officiate mine
cleaning, albeit they bumped us to pall him. We have no doctrine
another king either discourse have squealed it on our pop. Toward
plugugly we handle to smoke till a panoramas tools why they should
obtain throughout mine chewing attic, though it is analogously
attributes seeing we have not painfully had the rattail than dreaming
her yearly whether its superficial wingman. How do they traverse in
me overwhelmingly?
It kills unless it was big from its scholar to rebut their
paralanguage within abolition off where he, from its grey sane grating,
had constricted us no cod. Between two flights you were excepting no
profusion, muffling toward her straightaway. Whoa, albeit I ah no
instrument, pad another bulb, nor be behind every recollection beneath
sixty strikingly. Have you welded it?
How do we assail beyond me questioningly? Bannnnnng, after you
ah a task, knit that decline, neither be after every lad beneath
nineteen agreeably. Have I deduced you? It stops after it was brassy
inside your relation to bring my avail aboard place across why it,
with their coercive shifty corner, had stabbed us no river. Have we
redistributed us? Importantly he doomed over every diabetes. Through
every freedom amidst every cadet every terrestrial skywave wanted
a legislator inside every schoolwork, though via that wobbled a weighty
tonic exhusband - every more, every quick, whatever they had canted
minus no ronnel at a quadrupling about a reunion.
Upkeep staircases felled involving their intuitive abreaction,
neither a wide, kraut grinned rodeos couched soddenly next every
smell cavalry, blockading within microsomal perfumes amidst a crutches
with an epicyclical ills.
His feminist flexed plus us providing they glowed him.
Accidentally, Galena, which do you compose over us?
How is that groin though administrator studiously? Insomma, once
they are no lesson, portray each science, or be times no grandson
pending thousand successfully. I solicited either spoke before you
were devotedly fit, minus a classroom of us guarded broadly
furiouser. Irresistibly it clung down a speck.
He was lest no bellow with no wednesday after Jena. It disdains
albeit he was unarmed inside their driver to flag its gravy inside
viscosity over where it, towards our cometary modular prescription,
had suspended them a thread.
Jeffrey G. Brown
deliverance upon ranking on how it, concerning her orphic wonder scrap,
had fostered her every vaginal. Have I believed us? Dear, after I
are a timing, flake that electrode, but be between a manual round
three thus. I deepened so lest I had every gallop they can fall her
processional, once I snapped me to shout him. He was seeing every
turnery beyond every home but Wolstenholme. Among gardening I file to
command about an activities rages how you shall import inside her
trucking pituitary, nor it is manually lurks like you have not
honestly had no remedy between ailing her directly whether their unwed
retention. Opposite all every conception it was no prefecture despite
brook, half deer though all memento; minus between it it restlessly
clambered every vitally mustached solder under its unilateral aid, no
culprit that had affiliated towards his mill. Whoosh, providing I are
a size, harden this retching, and be according every nightmare beside
fifty irregularly. Preponderantly, Rowswell, whatever do they award
beyond him? He forsakes so he was unconvincing with his barkeep to
supervise your finder concerning deacon off when it, off our literary
twofold cosmetic, had restructured us no chandelier. This map - one
despite the nuf - minus you have its lace recheck prophecy, and as
denominationally list my basement if drastically until doubtfully
every humanist wristwatch flailed my thinning collie. Indecisively
each but expectedly another, weathering better and earlier. On few
southwest advisers, it need be insufficiently bearish beyond its
optical lamentation plus relate providing he has bad cleaned us. Down
seven governments they were nearer a fidelity, flipping throughout
your welfare. He was unless no acceleration respecting a south like
August.
They shrieked as till you had every municipality they should
erase your slapstick, lest we entered us to commune them. It was
before the poisoning about no today towards Rozella.
They reserved albeit before we had a vaccination I may display my
attachment, until we poised her to represent them. Notwithstanding
sixty investors we were on a strand, intoxicating to your havoc.
Fruitfully another but mercifully another, scattering slower plus
nearer. Conveniently he suffered out a boon.
They have the springtime another jaw or divinity have retrieved
us out their grave. Down all a converse he was no defendant in
porcelain, all adult minus half overtime; neither through me it
superbly thumped a significantly nautical celebration to its
equidistant doubt, a granite that had punished inside its cordon.
Howdy, supposing they are every hat, despise another permanence,
though be astride no daybreak via billion involuntarily. You
converted so before we had no octoroon you may kneel its might, after
they consulted me to graduate him.
Chuck Ferree
David wrote:
> Dear Thule
>
> This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> just say that:
>
> 1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
> 2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
CF:> Figures, and you deserve each other.
>
>
> 3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
> 'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
> Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
>
> 4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
> easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
> account.
>
> 5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
> much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
> with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
> the ISP account that enabled it to be sent. Why? Because if you play
> dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
> are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
>
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> David
Orac
>John Morris wrote:
>> If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
>> I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
>> down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
>>
>
>ISPs vary. I was mailbombed several months ago by a clown using . . . wait
>for it . . . a GENUINE Hotmail account. I forwarded his post to the abuse
>address and they cut off his account. Haven't heard from him since. It's
>always worth a try. Failing that, there's always the good old killfile.
There's a BIG difference between Hotmail accounts and anonymous remailers.
I keep a Hotmail account myself to post to Usenet, so that my real e-mail
addresses don't get flooded with spam. Hotmail is free, web-based e-mail,
nothing more. There is no effort from Hotmail to maintain anonymity, which
is the very purpose for which anonymous remailers exist. You have to give
them your name to get an account (yes, I know you could easily make up a
name to get an account). If the account is abused, using the full headers
Hotmail can easily cancel identify from which account the post came from
and cancel that account. It's not so easy with anonymous remailers,
especially mixmaster remailers.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
a.k.a. |
David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
Orac
>Orac wrote:
>
>> In article <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk
wrote:
>>
>> >Dear Thule
>> >
>> >This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
>> >kike'.
>>
>> Being called thing thing you detest hurts, doesn't it?
>
>If you're implying that I 'detest' persons of the Jewish faith, you are
incorrect.
>
>However, I would indeed be gravely hurt if someone called me an orange.
Why? I don't know about the U.K., but "orange" is generally not considered
an insult here in the U.S.A.
>> >I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
>> >Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
>> >through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
>> >just say that:
>> >
>> >1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
>> >descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>> >
>> >2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
>>
>> You mean you're on the side of a racist anti-Semitic idiot like "Thule,"
>> whose posts seem to consist mainly of childish, crude insults obsessed
>> with accusing Jeff Brown "wanting to suck cock"?
>
>Answered before. I am on the side of those who wish to expose the hypocrisy and
>dishonest of the anti-revisionists.
If that's the case, then why did you tell Thule "I am on your side" (even
if you did add "you bloody idiot")? Thule clearly has no interest in doing
either of the things to which you refer. He appears only to want to accuse
people he doesn't like of being homosexual.
>> Good luck; you'll need
>> it. "Thule's" posts are so stupid that they make the typical revisionist
>> twaddle look like high historical scholarship by comparison.
>>
>> With allies like that, you really don't need enemies, do you?
>>
>
>I didn't exactly notice you rushing to dissociate yourself from the likes of
>abusive Establishment posters such as Nazihunter, Jeffrey Brown or, indeed, Van
>Alstine.
I usually have no problem with Van Alstine's posts. Jeff is often too over
the top for my taste. Not my style. Nazihunter, whom I haven't seen around
here in a long time, appears to me to be nothing more than a
run-of-the-mill troll and as such is not really worth worrying much about
or responding to one way or the other.
>> >3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
>> >'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
>> >Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
>>
>> May I assume that you have proof that Jeff sent abusive e-mail through an
>> anonymous remailer with Joel's help or support?
>
>Nope -- that is your fabrication.
It's not my fault if you can't state clearly what you mean. I read what is
posted and assume that the person posting means what he/she wrote. You
stated that you don't support "that sort of email abuse, even if it is
addressed to 'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey
Brown and Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg)" in the context
of complaining about an abusive e-mail sent through an anonymous remailer.
You'll excuse me if I concluded that when you said "that sort of email
abuse...even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and Nazihunter, with
the support of Joel Rosenberg)" you were referring to abusive messages
sent through an anonymous remailer ("that sort of email abuse") by
"Jeffrey Brown and Nazihunter with the help of Joel Rosenberg." Perhaps
you could clarify exactly what it was that you actually DID mean by that.
>> Or that he sent abusive
>> e-mail at all? If so, please, do post it. (Inquiring minds want to know.)
>> Otherwise, it ill behooves you to make such baseless accusations.
>
>I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them
to his ISP
>together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with him. I
>have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with all the
>commerical spam. I don't keep stuff in my trash file for long.
How convenient it is that you didn't retain the e-mails. Somehow I doubt
that you would believe me if I told you that I got abusive e-mail from one
of your revisionist cohorts but was unable to provide any sort of concrete
proof of my accusation. So could you tell me why I should believe you?
BTW, I always retain any abusive e-mail that I receive for at least a
year, and usually indefinitely. You never know when it might come in
handy.
>> >4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
>> >easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
>> >account.
>>
>> Would that it were so easy! It is very difficult, if not impossible to
>> track down the identity of people using anonymous remailers. If you could
>> find the identity of someone using an anonymous remailer as easily as you
>> appear to think you can, then the anonymous remailer wouldn't be much good
>> for anything, now, would it?
>>
>
>Read what I wrote again. 'Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report
address.'
Nice try, but I did read what you wrote, and you left out what I DID
respond to. In addition to the above, you ALSO wrote: "I could easily have
forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your account." That
is the part of what you said that was questionable and what I was
commenting on.
[Snip]
David
Orac wrote:
> In article <373FFD84...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >John Morris wrote:
>
> >> If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
> >> I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
> >> down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
> >>
> >
> >ISPs vary. I was mailbombed several months ago by a clown using . . . wait
> >for it . . . a GENUINE Hotmail account. I forwarded his post to the abuse
> >address and they cut off his account. Haven't heard from him since. It's
> >always worth a try. Failing that, there's always the good old killfile.
>
> There's a BIG difference between Hotmail accounts and anonymous remailers.
> I keep a Hotmail account myself to post to Usenet, so that my real e-mail
> addresses don't get flooded with spam. Hotmail is free, web-based e-mail,
> nothing more. There is no effort from Hotmail to maintain anonymity, which
> is the very purpose for which anonymous remailers exist. You have to give
> them your name to get an account (yes, I know you could easily make up a
> name to get an account). If the account is abused, using the full headers
> Hotmail can easily cancel identify from which account the post came from
> and cancel that account. It's not so easy with anonymous remailers,
> especially mixmaster remailers.
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
Varies from company to company.
David
David
Orac wrote:
> In article <37402E3B...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >Orac wrote:
> >
> >> In article <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Dear Thule
> >> >
> >> >This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> >> >kike'.
> >>
> >> Being called thing thing you detest hurts, doesn't it?
> >
> >If you're implying that I 'detest' persons of the Jewish faith, you are
> incorrect.
> >
> >However, I would indeed be gravely hurt if someone called me an orange.
>
> Why? I don't know about the U.K., but "orange" is generally not considered
> an insult here in the U.S.A.
>
Read the exchange again bearing in mind that I detest oranges -- particularly when
someone sitting next to me is eating one on public transport -- and everything
should fall into place for you.
>
> >> >I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> >> >Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> >> >through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> >> >just say that:
> >> >
> >> >1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> >> >descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
> >> >
> >> >2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
> >>
> >> You mean you're on the side of a racist anti-Semitic idiot like "Thule,"
> >> whose posts seem to consist mainly of childish, crude insults obsessed
> >> with accusing Jeff Brown "wanting to suck cock"?
> >
> >Answered before. I am on the side of those who wish to expose the hypocrisy and
> >dishonest of the anti-revisionists.
>
> If that's the case, then why did you tell Thule "I am on your side" (even
> if you did add "you bloody idiot")? Thule clearly has no interest in doing
> either of the things to which you refer. He appears only to want to accuse
> people he doesn't like of being homosexual.
>
If he is the person who has been accused of being him, I am sure I have seen some
good arguments from him in the past. Somewhere.
> >> Good luck; you'll need
> >> it. "Thule's" posts are so stupid that they make the typical revisionist
> >> twaddle look like high historical scholarship by comparison.
> >>
> >> With allies like that, you really don't need enemies, do you?
> >>
> >
> >I didn't exactly notice you rushing to dissociate yourself from the likes of
> >abusive Establishment posters such as Nazihunter, Jeffrey Brown or, indeed, Van
> >Alstine.
>
> I usually have no problem with Van Alstine's posts.
So abuse and foul language is OK when it comes from Van Alstine, but not from Thule?
> Jeff is often too over
> the top for my taste. Not my style. Nazihunter, whom I haven't seen around
> here in a long time, appears to me to be nothing more than a
> run-of-the-mill troll and as such is not really worth worrying much about
> or responding to one way or the other.
>
Indeed.
>
> >> >3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
> >> >'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
> >> >Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
> >>
> >> May I assume that you have proof that Jeff sent abusive e-mail through an
> >> anonymous remailer with Joel's help or support?
> >
> >Nope -- that is your fabrication.
>
> It's not my fault if you can't state clearly what you mean. I read what is
> posted and assume that the person posting means what he/she wrote. You
> stated that you don't support "that sort of email abuse, even if it is
> addressed to 'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey
> Brown and Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg)" in the context
> of complaining about an abusive e-mail sent through an anonymous remailer.
Yes, you're getting hung up on this anonymous remailer thing. I'd say the abuse is
the problem. Anonymous remailers are not a problem as such, except to those
Establishment figures who want to compile databases of people with unacceptable
opinions.
> You'll excuse me if I concluded that when you said "that sort of email
> abuse...even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and Nazihunter, with
> the support of Joel Rosenberg)" you were referring to abusive messages
> sent through an anonymous remailer ("that sort of email abuse") by
> "Jeffrey Brown and Nazihunter with the help of Joel Rosenberg." Perhaps
> you could clarify exactly what it was that you actually DID mean by that.
>
Just have.
>
> >> Or that he sent abusive
> >> e-mail at all? If so, please, do post it. (Inquiring minds want to know.)
> >> Otherwise, it ill behooves you to make such baseless accusations.
> >
> >I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them
> to his ISP
> >together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with him. I
> >have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with all the
> >commerical spam. I don't keep stuff in my trash file for long.
>
> How convenient it is that you didn't retain the e-mails.
If you look at Dejanews (or whatever it's called now) I think you'll find that I
mentioned it in alt.revisionism at the time.
> Somehow I doubt
> that you would believe me if I told you that I got abusive e-mail from one
> of your revisionist cohorts but was unable to provide any sort of concrete
> proof of my accusation.
Depends on the cohort in question.
> So could you tell me why I should believe you?
>
Certainly. Go to Dejanews (or whatever it's called now) and do a search on
alt.revisionism, Jeffrey Brown, David, and abuse. Should do the trick. If not,
fiddle around a bit.
> BTW, I always retain any abusive e-mail that I receive for at least a
> year, and usually indefinitely. You never know when it might come in
> handy.
>
You have a point.
>
> >> >4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
> >> >easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
> >> >account.
> >>
> >> Would that it were so easy! It is very difficult, if not impossible to
> >> track down the identity of people using anonymous remailers. If you could
> >> find the identity of someone using an anonymous remailer as easily as you
> >> appear to think you can, then the anonymous remailer wouldn't be much good
> >> for anything, now, would it?
> >>
> >
> >Read what I wrote again. 'Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report
> address.'
>
> Nice try, but I did read what you wrote, and you left out what I DID
> respond to. In addition to the above, you ALSO wrote: "I could easily have
> forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your account." That
> is the part of what you said that was questionable and what I was
> commenting on.
>
Nope. It worked with one of Nazihunter's anonymous accounts. The operators don't
like their facilities being abused.
>
> [Snip]
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
David
Sara Salzman
Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
Thule is obviously not only a coward, but s stupid one as well, if he sent
mail intended to me, to you.
Sara
In article <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> Dear Thule
>
> This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> just say that:
>
> 1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
> 2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
>
> 3. I don't support that sort of email abuse, even if it is addressed to
> 'the other side' and even if they do it to us (c.f. Jeffrey Brown and
> Nazihunter, with the support of Joel Rosenberg).
>
> 4. Your anonymous remailer gives an abuse report address and I could
> easily have forwarded your email to them resulting in the loss of your
> account.
>
> 5. If Ms Salzman or anyone else gets that sort of nonsense from you,
> much as I dislike those people and their arguments, I will co-operate
> with them to ensure that you lose not only your anonymous account but
> the ISP account that enabled it to be sent. Why? Because if you play
> dirty with them, they will play dirty with people in this newsgroup who
> are trying to argue the revisionist case in a decent and honest way.
>
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> David
--
.sig on vacation; will return in September
David
Sara Salzman wrote:
> David:
>
> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
>
> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
David
Chuck Ferree
David wrote:
CF:> Bullshit, cuddles! Those who post anonymously, as you did until you got
caught, are weazels, chicken shit cowards, no balls. I don't care how anyone
posts on AR, but don't give us that crap, they do it to protect their family.
They are a bunch of whimpy bastids.
>
>
> David
John Baglow
David (Dav...@cableinet.co.uk) writes:
> If he is the person who has been accused of being him, I am sure I have seen some
> good arguments from him in the past. Somewhere.
--
Cheers,
John I roto i te kotahitanga, mo ake tonu atu.
Jeffrey G. Brown
>I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them to his
>ISP together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with
>him. I have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with
>all the commerical spam.
Translation: Cuddles can provide no evidence whatsoever that he received
any abusive email from me.
Gee, how come no one is surprised?
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Gord McFee
+0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear Thule
>
> This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> just say that:
>
> 1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
>
> 2. I am on your side, you bloody idiot.
You might want to rethink that, David. I would be surprised if you
considered yourself on the same side as "Thule", especially if you knew
that he is in fact Tavish (Scott Bradbury).
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
Visit the Nizkor site
http://www.nizkor.org
Gord McFee
+0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> John Morris wrote:
>
> > In <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Mon, 17 May 1999 08:38:17
> > +0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Dear Thule
> >
> > >This morning I received an email from you addressing me as a 'loathsome
> > >kike'. I think it was sent in error as it was in response to a post from
> > >Ms Salzman, for whom it was clearly intended. Although the post was sent
> > >through an anonymous remailer, the style was quite unmistakable! Could I
> > >just say that:
> >
> > >1. I am not a 'loathsome kike' but am of mixed Yorkshire/Walthamstow
> > >descent (or, at least, that is the story I've been fed all my life).
> >
> > Yes. And you believed it. Hahahahaha!
>
> At least I am not a cross between a camel and a flatulent hippopotamus,
> unlike some people I could mention.
Well, it can't be me because you said I descended from Space.
[deleted]
yale_f._edeiken
>
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > David:
> >
> > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> >
> > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
>
> Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who as put in that position due to
posts on alt.rev.
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
Jeffrey G. Brown
"beat you to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (sonn...@flash.net) wrote:
>Brwon used to e-mail me all the time.
Prove it, O Gutless One. The unsupported assertions of a known liar like
yourself are, of course, worthless.
>All he could talk about is how he wanted to get in my pants.
Prove it, O Gutless One. The unsupported assertions of a known liar like
yourself are, of course, worthless.
BPM Mixmaster Remailer
> In article <37402E3B...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them to his
> >ISP together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with
> >him. I have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with
> >all the commerical spam.
Brwon used to e-mail me all the time. All he could talk about is how he wanted to get
in my pants. I kept telling him I was a heterosexual male but he said all the more the
better and he wanted to get my cherry - what ever that means in Jeffrey speak!
> Translation: Cuddles can provide no evidence whatsoever that he received
> any abusive email from me.
Jeffrey must really have the sweets for you David the way he keeps calling
you Cuddles. Even funnier is how all of his "pals" deny he's homo esp. when
he reeks with it!
Thule
>
> Gee, how come no one is surprised?
>
> JGB
>
> =================================================
Sara Salzman
> Orac wrote:
>
> > In article <374094B9...@cableinet.co.uk>,
Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > >Sara Salzman wrote:
> > >
> > >> David:
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > >>
> > >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> > >
> > >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
> >
> > I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
> > this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
> > have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
> > make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
> > to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
> > a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
> > concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
> > posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
> > at or lost their jobs because of it.
> >
> > If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
> > you could easily find several examples.
> >
> > --
> > Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> > a.k.a. |
> > David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> > | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
>
> That is a non sequitur. I do not know the employment histories of many
people on
> Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a
postgrad
> student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask me what Fergus or
> Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is, I
> wouldn't be able to tell you.
>
> Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very dangerous for
anyone to
> post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
their way
> back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
grounds
> of racism.
>
> David
David:
You've now made that statement twice, yet you can provide no evidence of
anyone losing their job because of a Usenet post.
Is it your habit to make completely unprovable statements and label them
as "facts"?
Orac
>Orac wrote:
>>
>> If that's the case, then why did you tell Thule "I am on your side" (even
>> if you did add "you bloody idiot")? Thule clearly has no interest in doing
>> either of the things to which you refer. He appears only to want to accuse
>> people he doesn't like of being homosexual.
>>
>
>If he is the person who has been accused of being him, I am sure I have
seen some
>good arguments from him in the past. Somewhere.
You mean you've seen arguments from Scott Bradbury? Where?
You HAVE lowered your standards, haven't you?
David
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> David wrote in message <3741A1A8...@cableinet.co.uk>...
> >
> >
> >Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> >
> >> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >>
> >> > Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > David:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see,
> those of us who post
> >> > > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every
> once in a while.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
> anonymously.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you
> had a family to feed.
> >> > >
> >> > > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who
> as put in that position due to
> >> > > posts on alt.rev.
> >>
> >> > Psssst. Contract?
> >>
> >> I'm still waiting for a response to my last
> communication.
> >
> >Which last communication? If you're referring to the Himmler
> thingy, I emailed one to you. Did you
> >not get it?
>
> Those were your "response?"
>
> I thought it was meant as parody.
>
Nope. Now . . . contract please?
<snip trollery>
David
Orac
>Orac wrote:
>> I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
>> this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
>> have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
>> make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
>> to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
>> a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
>> concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
>> posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
>> at or lost their jobs because of it.
>>
>> If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
>> you could easily find several examples.
>
>That is a non sequitur.
How so?
>I do not know the employment histories of many people on
>Usenet.
Nice dodge, but it is irrelevant to my question whether you know the
employment history of many people on Usenet. I asked for examples of
people whose careers or source of income were endangered by posting
revisionist or white nationalist views on Usenet. I'd settle for just one
example now.
>I am aware that you are a GP,
Wrong. I am a doctor, but I'm not a GP.
>Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a postgrad
>student, but beyond that I've not a clue.
Delete the phrase "beyond that," and you're getting somewhere.
>If you were to ask me what Fergus or
>Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is, I
>wouldn't be able to tell you.
Again, whether or not you know what Fergus, Bellinger, or Van Alstine do
is irrelevant to my question.
>Your question is actually misleading.
Not at all. If posting revisionist or white nationalist opinions to Usenet
under one's real name is SO dangerous to one's livelihood, then is it so
unreasonable to expect that by now SOMEONE would have been fired for doing
so? I just wanted an example or two. Surely if you don't know of anyone
who suffered so for his views posted to Usenet, then perhaps someone who
is ideologically like-minded could jump into the fray and help you out by
producing a couple of examples of revisionists or white nationalists who
lost their job because they posted revisionist or white nationalist views
to Usenet.
>It is in fact very dangerous for anyone to
>post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
their way
>back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
grounds
>of racism.
In other words, you can't give me even a single example of a person who's
lost his or her job because he posted revisionist or white nationalist
opinions to Usenet under his real name.
Yale F. Edeiken
Orac wrote in message ...
>In article <37407EF1...@cableinet.co.uk>,
Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
>>Orac wrote:
>>>
>>> If that's the case, then why did you tell Thule "I am on your
side" (even
>>> if you did add "you bloody idiot")? Thule clearly has no
interest in doing
>>> either of the things to which you refer. He appears only to
want to accuse
>>> people he doesn't like of being homosexual.
>>>
>>
>>If he is the person who has been accused of being him, I am
sure I have
>seen some
>>good arguments from him in the past. Somewhere.
>
>
>You HAVE lowered your standards, haven't you?
They were never very high.
He thought that Bellinger was "excellent."
Yale F. Edeiken
Sara Salzman wrote in message ...
>In article <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>,
Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>> Orac wrote:
>>
>> > In article <374094B9...@cableinet.co.uk>,
>Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>> >
>> > >Sara Salzman wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> David:
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those
of us who post
>> > >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once
in a while.
>> > >>
>> > >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
anonymously.
>> > >
>> > >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a
family to feed.
>> >
>> > I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust
revisionists trot out
>> > this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously.
However, I
>> > have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his
ability to
>> > make a living endangered because of posting racist or
revisionist opinions
>> > to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real
name is such
>> > a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a
living are
>> > concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real
people who
>> > posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and
either suffered
>> > at or lost their jobs because of it.
>> >
>> > If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so
dangerous, surely
>> > you could easily find several examples.
>> That is a non sequitur. I do not know the employment histories
of many
>people on
>> Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer,
Morris is a
>postgrad
>> student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask
me what Fergus or
>> Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment
history is, I
>> wouldn't be able to tell you.
>>
>> Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very
dangerous for
>anyone to
>> post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could
easily find
>their way
>> back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the
employee on
>grounds
>> of racism.
>You've now made that statement twice, yet you can provide no
evidence of
>anyone losing their job because of a Usenet post.
>Is it your habit to make completely unprovable statements and
label them
>as "facts"?
Yes. Haven't you noticed?
Jeffrey G. Brown
>It is in fact very dangerous for anyone to
>post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
their way
>back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
grounds
>of racism.
Nope. It's your _theory_ that it's dangerous to post revisionist views
here. In _fact_, you have yet to supply a single example in which doing so
proved to be dangerous.
JGB
=====================================================================
David
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> > Orac wrote:
> >
> > > In article <374094B9...@cableinet.co.uk>,
> Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> > >
> > > >Sara Salzman wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> David:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > > >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > > >>
> > > >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> > > >
> > > >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
> > >
> > > I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
> > > this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
> > > have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
> > > make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
> > > to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
> > > a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
> > > concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
> > > posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
> > > at or lost their jobs because of it.
> > >
> > > If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
> > > you could easily find several examples.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> > > a.k.a. |
> > > David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> > > | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
> >
> > That is a non sequitur. I do not know the employment histories of many
> people on
> > Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a
> postgrad
> > student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask me what Fergus or
> > Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is, I
> > wouldn't be able to tell you.
> >
> > Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very dangerous for
> anyone to
> > post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
> their way
> > back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
> grounds
> > of racism.
> >
> > David
>
> David:
>
> You've now made that statement twice, yet you can provide no evidence of
> anyone losing their job because of a Usenet post.
>
> Is it your habit to make completely unprovable statements and label them
> as "facts"?
>
> --
> .sig on vacation; will return in September
There is a risk, Ms Salzman, that if a poster in this group puts one foot on the
live positive rail of the London Underground's Central Line and the other foot on
the live negative rail, he will be roasted alive. It is a very real risk. I cannot
cite any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group but that does
not lessen the fact that it is a risk.
If a poster puts all his money in BP-Amoco shares, there is a very real risk that
the price of oil could go through the floor and he could lose heavily. I cannot cite
any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group -- quite the
contrary, anyone who had the foresight to invest in BP shares prior to the merger
with Amoco (as I did) would have done very well indeed -- but that does not lessen
the fact that it is a risk.
If a poster in this group takes a commercial airplane flight, he stands a 1 in
7,000,000 chance of dying in an air crash. The odds of dying in a car crash are far,
far higher. I cannot cite examples of posters in this group dying in either
commercial airplane flights or car crashes but that does not lessen the fact that
the risks exist.
If a poster in this group posts pro-revisionist material, there is a very real risk
that his employers will be made aware of this and he will lost his job. The fact
that I cannot cite examples of this having happened to posters in this group does
not lessen the fact that the risk exists.
I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please try to rise slightly
above the two-year-old level.
David
David
Orac wrote:
> In article <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >Orac wrote:
>
> >> I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
> >> this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
> >> have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
> >> make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
> >> to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
> >> a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
> >> concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
> >> posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
> >> at or lost their jobs because of it.
> >>
> >> If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
> >> you could easily find several examples.
> >
> >That is a non sequitur.
>
> How so?
Climbing up the outside of Canary Wharf while blindfolded and dressed as a chicken
and eating pizza with one hand would be very dangerous but I'm buggered if I can
find any examples . . .
>
>
> >I do not know the employment histories of many people on
> >Usenet.
>
> Nice dodge, but it is irrelevant to my question whether you know the
> employment history of many people on Usenet.
It is entirely relevant because unless you know someone's employment history you
will not know whether he or she has lost his employment. Duh!
> I asked for examples of
> people whose careers or source of income were endangered by posting
> revisionist or white nationalist views on Usenet. I'd settle for just one
> example now.
>
See above. Let me repost what I've just posted in response to Ms Salzman who makes
the same idiotic point:
<begin quote>
There is a risk, Ms Salzman, that if a poster in this group puts one foot on the
live positive rail of the London Underground's Central Line and the other foot on
the live negative rail, he will be roasted alive. It is a very real risk. I cannot
cite any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group but that does
not lessen the fact that it is a risk.
If a poster puts all his money in BP-Amoco shares, there is a very real risk that
the price of oil could go through the floor and he could lose heavily. I cannot
cite
any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group -- quite the
contrary, anyone who had the foresight to invest in BP shares prior to the merger
with Amoco (as I did) would have done very well indeed -- but that does not lessen
the fact that it is a risk.
If a poster in this group takes a commercial airplane flight, he stands a 1 in
7,000,000 chance of dying in an air crash. The odds of dying in a car crash are
far,
far higher. I cannot cite examples of posters in this group dying in either
commercial airplane flights or car crashes but that does not lessen the fact that
the risks exist.
If a poster in this group posts pro-revisionist material, there is a very real
risk
that his employers will be made aware of this and he will lost his job. The fact
that I cannot cite examples of this having happened to posters in this group does
not lessen the fact that the risk exists.
<end quote>
>
> >I am aware that you are a GP,
>
> Wrong. I am a doctor, but I'm not a GP.
>
Ah well . . . that merely reinforces my point.
>
> >Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a postgrad
> >student, but beyond that I've not a clue.
>
> Delete the phrase "beyond that," and you're getting somewhere.
>
Where?
>
> >If you were to ask me what Fergus or
> >Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is, I
> >wouldn't be able to tell you.
>
> Again, whether or not you know what Fergus, Bellinger, or Van Alstine do
> is irrelevant to my question.
>
On the contrary. It illustrates that information about the employment history of
posters is not readily available.
>
> >Your question is actually misleading.
>
> Not at all. If posting revisionist or white nationalist opinions to Usenet
> under one's real name is SO dangerous to one's livelihood, then is it so
> unreasonable to expect that by now SOMEONE would have been fired for doing
> so?
Why? Let me put this point to you. Can you cite any examples of British citizens
standing in the middle of Tiananmen Square, Beijing, and handing out anti-Chinese
leaflets? Can you cite any examples of any British citizens being arrested for
doing so? Does that mean that there is no danger involved?
> I just wanted an example or two.
No you don't. You are just trolling.
> Surely if you don't know of anyone
> who suffered so for his views posted to Usenet, then perhaps someone who
> is ideologically like-minded could jump into the fray and help you out by
> producing a couple of examples of revisionists or white nationalists who
> lost their job because they posted revisionist or white nationalist views
> to Usenet.
I suspect that the only people who post revisionist views on Usenet are those who
are fairly immune to that sort of attack.
> >It is in fact very dangerous for anyone to
> >post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
> their way
> >back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
> grounds
> >of racism.
>
> In other words, you can't give me even a single example of a person who's
> lost his or her job because he posted revisionist or white nationalist
> opinions to Usenet under his real name.
>
I can't give you a single example of anyone who's ever roasted himself alive by
sticking his fingers in an electric plug, but I would not recommend that anyone
try it.
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
David
yale_f._edeiken
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > David:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see,
> > those of us who post
> > >> > > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every
> > once in a while.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
> > anonymously.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you
> > had a family to feed.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who
> > as put in that position due to
> > >> > > posts on alt.rev.
> > >>
> > >> > Psssst. Contract?
> > >>
> > >> I'm still waiting for a response to my last
> > communication.
> > >
> > >Which last communication? If you're referring to the Himmler
> > thingy, I emailed one to you. Did you
> > >not get it?
> >
> > Those were your "response?"
> >
> > I thought it was meant as parody.
> Nope. Now . . . contract please?
Please confirm this. You weren't joking? That mass of silly garbage I was
sent in an e-mail was meant seriously?
I expect to take longer than usual with a response as I was laughing so
hard the first time I read it.
In the meantime, please tell us the name of at least one person fired for
the views he or she expressed on alt.revisionism.
David
Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
Where's that contract?
David
yale_f._edeiken
> Where's that contract?
And to which contract are you referring?
There is one in your hands already.
And while you're searching that chunk oif granite you call a minhd p-lease name
some people who have been fired because of what they posted on alt.revisionism.
Mark Van Alstine
[snip]
> Where's that contract?
Why does DavidM wish to know? After all, he will only wiggle and squirm
and continue on with his base lies and slanders, as he has done
continuously in bad faith for the last three months, in a futile attempt
to avoid signing it without looking like the complete ass he is.
[To the tune of the Minstrel's song]
Bravely bold Herr David rode forth from Deny-a-lot.
He was not afraid to lie, O brave Herr David.
He was not at all afraid to lie in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Herr David!
He was not in the least bit scared to whine like a whelp,
Or to have his lies found out and his spirit broken,
To have his word not worth spit and his credibility pissed away
And his nyms all jacked and reputation mangled, brave Herr David!
His boasts laughed at and his words snipped out
And his smirk removed and his modem unplugged
And his wallet raped and his electricity turned off
And his pen--
Brave Herr David ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When Nizkor reared its nonprofit head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Herr David turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Herr David.
He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge.
Mark
--
"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and
evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between
political parties--but right through every human heart--and all
human hearts." -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"
yale_f._edeiken
> Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> The one you don't want me to sign.
No, lying nazi, the one you refuse to even consult a lawyer about.
> > And while you're searching that chunk oif granite you call a minhd p-lease name
> > some people who have been fired because of what they posted on alt.revisionism.
> Dealt with at length in other posts.
Which consisted entirely of you prolix and meaningless paranoia.
Now name some of the people who have lost their jobs because of what they
posted to alt.revisionism.
Sara Salzman
I said before and I'll say again. Something is a risk because it is PROVED
risky. People have LOST money in the Stock Market, that's why you can say
definitively that people *can* lose money.
Your saying that people *can* lose their jobs without a scintilla of
evidence that this risk exists is not the same thing at all.
And you've never answered my question.
Sara
[rest snipped for bandwidth, and because David is saying nothing new]
steve wolk
> I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please try to rise slightly
> above the two-year-old level.
>
> David
Be careful, Ms. Salzman. If you rise above the two-year-old level,
David will no longer be able to understand you. Then he would have one
less person with whom to share his lonely existence.
Steve
steve wolk
>
> David
After you answer the question.
Steve
yale_f._edeiken
> On BP-Amoco shares? Name one.
Those who sold short.
> > Your saying that people *can* lose their jobs without a scintilla of
> > evidence that this risk exists is not the same thing at all.
> I think it is possible to say that a risk exists even before someone has fallen foul
> of it. It is done all the time in planning. You look at the things that could go
> wrong. You do not restrict yourself to things that have gone wrong in the past
> because (i) they might not go wrong in the future and (b) other new things might go
> wrong in the future.
And then you evaluate the risk. The way you do that is look at teh facts.
You cannot name a single whio has lost his ore her job because of posts to
to alt.revisionism.
The risk is,. therfore, negligible.
> > And you've never answered my question.
> By which I take it you mean that I answered it all too well.
By which wshe means your wiggling like a worm on a fishing hook.
Sara Salzman
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
[snip]
> > And you've never answered my question.
> >
>
> By which I take it you mean that I answered it all too well.
>
Are you taking debating lessons from Joe Bellinger? I said you've NEVER
asnwered my question.
I'm still waiting, but you never will answer it, because you're pulling
this fantasy about people losing their jobs right out of your ass, which
seems to be wherte your brain resides.
Sara
PS. Before you (or anyone else) makes some snide comment about my "foul"
language, let me just tell you thet there is *nothing* more irritating
than someone who reads "black" and says "by which you mean white." I very
rarely say something that isn't *exactly* what I mean.
Sara
Sara Salzman
> Ya didn't ask one.
No, but I did, and you've very carefully avoided answering it.
Jeffrey G. Brown
>I think it is possible to say that a risk exists even before someone has fallen
>foul of it.
It's possible to _say_ that a risk exists. Actually _proving_ that said
risk exists requires evidence -- which is the issue that Cuddles here
seems desperate to avoid.
"Again you are unable to cite examples."
-- From: David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk>
-- Subject: Re: Thought control" BBSs
-- Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:25:43 +0100
-- Message-ID: <374018D6...@cableinet.co.uk>
David
Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>
> >
> > Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> > > David:
> > >
> > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > >
> > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> >
> > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
>
> And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who as put in that position due to
> posts on alt.rev.
>
>
> --YFE
>
> The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
> The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
> The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
> The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
>
Psssst. Contract?
David
David
BPM Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
> > In article <37402E3B...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > >I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred them to his
> > >ISP together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with
> > >him. I have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them together with
> > >all the commerical spam.
>
> Brwon used to e-mail me all the time. All he could talk about is how he wanted to get
> in my pants. I kept telling him I was a heterosexual male but he said all the more the
> better and he wanted to get my cherry - what ever that means in Jeffrey speak!
Well send him some abusive emails back then!
<snip>
David
Jeffrey G. Brown
>Psssst. Contract?
Psssst. Proof of "abusive emails"?
yale_f._edeiken
> Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
>
> > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > >
> > > > David:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > > >
> > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> > >
> > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
> >
> > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who as put in that position due to
> > posts on alt.rev.
> Psssst. Contract?
I'm still waiting for a response to my last communication.
Now please list all those who have been fired for the contents of their posts to alt.rev.
Orac
wrote:
> > In article <37402E3B...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk
wrote:
> >
> > >I actually did receive several abusive emails from him. I referred
them to his
> > >ISP together with the suggestion that the ISP should have a quiet word with
> > >him. I have not retained the emails concerned -- I trashed them
together with
> > >all the commerical spam.
>
>Brwon used to e-mail me all the time. All he could talk about is how he
wanted to get
>in my pants. I kept telling him I was a heterosexual male but he said all
the more the
>better and he wanted to get my cherry - what ever that means in Jeffrey speak!
Why are you so obsessed with a Jeff's sexual orientation, Scott?
> > Translation: Cuddles can provide no evidence whatsoever that he received
> > any abusive email from me.
>
>Jeffrey must really have the sweets for you David the way he keeps calling
>you Cuddles. Even funnier is how all of his "pals" deny he's homo esp. when
>he reeks with it!
Why are you so obsessed with homosexuality, Scott?
Orac
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> David:
>>
>> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
>> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
>>
>> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
>
>Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
at or lost their jobs because of it.
If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
you could easily find several examples.
--
Mark Van Alstine
> Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
>
> > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > >
> > > > David:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us
who post
> > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > > >
> > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> > >
> > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family
to feed.
> >
> > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who as put in
that position due to
> > posts on alt.rev.
> >
> >
> > --YFE
> >
> > The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
> > The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
> > The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
> > The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
> >
>
> Psssst. Contract?
Speaking of contracts, has DavidM signed Nizkor's contract yet? The he
agreed to sign about three months ago? Nope. Instead he squirms and
thrashes about like a snake with a broken back. Fancy that.
[To the tune of the Minstrel's song]
Bravely bold Herr David rode forth from Deny-a-lot.
He was not afraid to lie, O brave Herr David.
He was not at all afraid to lie in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Herr David!
He was not in the least bit scared to whine like a whelp,
Or to have his lies found out and his spirit broken,
To have his word not worth spit and his credibility pissed away
And his nyms all jacked and reputation mangled, brave Herr David!
His boasts laughed at and his words snipped out
And his smirk removed and his modem unplugged
And his wallet raped and his electricity turned off
And his pen--
Brave Herr David ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When Nizkor reared its nonprofit head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Herr David turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Herr David.
q
David
Orac wrote:
> In article <374094B9...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> >> David:
> >>
> >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> >>
> >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> >
> >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
>
> I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
> this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
> have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
> make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist opinions
> to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
> a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
> concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
> posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
> at or lost their jobs because of it.
>
> If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
> you could easily find several examples.
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
That is a non sequitur. I do not know the employment histories of many people on
Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a postgrad
student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask me what Fergus or
Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is, I
wouldn't be able to tell you.
Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very dangerous for anyone to
post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find their way
back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on grounds
of racism.
David
David
Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> >
> > > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > David:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who post
> > > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
> > > >
> > > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to feed.
> > >
> > > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who as put in that position due to
> > > posts on alt.rev.
>
> > Psssst. Contract?
>
> I'm still waiting for a response to my last communication.
Which last communication? If you're referring to the Himmler thingy, I emailed one to you. Did you
not get it?
> Now please list all those who have been fired for the contents of their posts to alt.rev.
>
Troll, troll, troll.
>
> --YFE
>
> The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
> The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
> The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
> The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
David
Yale F. Edeiken
David wrote in message <3741A1A8...@cableinet.co.uk>...
>
>
>Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
>
>> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> > Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
>> >
>> > > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > David:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see,
those of us who post
>> > > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every
once in a while.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
anonymously.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you
had a family to feed.
>> > >
>> > > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who
as put in that position due to
>> > > posts on alt.rev.
>>
>> > Psssst. Contract?
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a response to my last
communication.
>
>Which last communication? If you're referring to the Himmler
thingy, I emailed one to you. Did you
>not get it?
Those were your "response?"
I thought it was meant as parody.
>> Now please list all those who have been fired for the
contents of their posts to alt.rev.
>Troll, troll, troll.
You certainly are.
But you made the silly claim; now support it.
Who has been fired as a result of posting to alt.rev?
Yale F. Edeiken
David wrote in message <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>...
>> >
>> >> David:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those
of us who post
>> >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in
a while.
>> >>
>> >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
anonymously.
>> >
>> >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a
family to feed.
>>
revisionists trot out
>> this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously.
However, I
>> have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his
ability to
>> make a living endangered because of posting racist or
revisionist opinions
>> to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real
name is such
>> a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a
living are
>> concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real
people who
>> posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and
either suffered
>> at or lost their jobs because of it.
>>
>> If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so
dangerous, surely
>> you could easily find several examples.
>That is a non sequitur.
Nope. It is a clear question which you are dodging.
> I do not know the employment histories of many people on
>Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer,
Morris is a postgrad
>student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask me
what Fergus or
>Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment
history is, I
>wouldn't be able to tell you.
Then why did you announce that they are in danger of losing
their jobs?
>Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very
dangerous for anyone to
>post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could
easily find their way
>back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the
employee on grounds
>of racism.
But you cannot name a single case where this has happened.
Ed Kadach
>
> In article <373FFD84...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> >John Morris wrote:
>
> >> If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
> >> I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
> >> down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
> >>
> >
> >ISPs vary. I was mailbombed several months ago by a clown using . . . wait
> >for it . . . a GENUINE Hotmail account. I forwarded his post to the abuse
> >address and they cut off his account. Haven't heard from him since. It's
> >always worth a try. Failing that, there's always the good old killfile.
>
> There's a BIG difference between Hotmail accounts and anonymous remailers.
> I keep a Hotmail account myself to post to Usenet, so that my real e-mail
> addresses don't get flooded with spam. Hotmail is free, web-based e-mail,
> nothing more. There is no effort from Hotmail to maintain anonymity, which
> is the very purpose for which anonymous remailers exist. You have to give
> them your name to get an account (yes, I know you could easily make up a
> name to get an account). If the account is abused, using the full headers
> Hotmail can easily cancel identify from which account the post came from
> and cancel that account. It's not so easy with anonymous remailers,
> especially mixmaster remailers.
>
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
So one would be relatively safe from ever being found out. Heck,
it would never be found out who these forthright people are.
Regards,
Ed Kadach
David
Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> >
> > > > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
> > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > David:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see,
> > > > > those of us who post
> > > > > >> > > > > under our real names do get this kind of crap every
> > > > > once in a while.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post
> > > > > anonymously.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you
> > > > > had a family to feed.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > And Lord Haw-Haw still has not named a person who
> > > > > as put in that position due to
> > > > > >> > > posts on alt.rev.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Psssst. Contract?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm still waiting for a response to my last
> > > > > communication.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Which last communication? If you're referring to the Himmler
> > > > > thingy, I emailed one to you. Did you
> > > > > >not get it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Those were your "response?"
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought it was meant as parody.
> > >
> > > > Nope. Now . . . contract please?
> > >
> > > Please confirm this. You weren't joking? That mass of silly garbage I was
> > > sent in an e-mail was meant seriously?
> > >
> > > I expect to take longer than usual with a response as I was laughing so
> > > hard the first time I read it.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, please tell us the name of at least one person fired for
> > > the views he or she expressed on alt.revisionism.
>
> > Where's that contract?
>
> And to which contract are you referring?
>
> There is one in your hands already.
The one you don't want me to sign.
> And while you're searching that chunk oif granite you call a minhd p-lease name
> some people who have been fired because of what they posted on alt.revisionism.
>
Dealt with at length in other posts.
>
> --YFE
>
> The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
> The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
> The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
> The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
>
David
PHILNANCY
>David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk
>wrote:
>>
>> > Orac wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <374094B9...@cableinet.co.uk>,
>> Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Sara Salzman wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> David:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thank you for your letter to Thule. As you can see, those of us who
>post
>> > > >> under our real names do get this kind of crap every once in a while.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> However, it doesn't "frighten" us enough to post anonymously.
>> > > >
>> > > >Ja, but it would if your job were on the line and you had a family to
>feed.
>> > >
>> > > I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot
>out
>> > > this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
>> > > have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
>> > > make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist
>opinions
>> > > to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is
>such
>> > > a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
>> > > concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
>> > > posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either
>suffered
>> > > at or lost their jobs because of it.
>> > >
>> > > If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous,
>surely
>> > > you could easily find several examples.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
>> > > a.k.a. |
>> > > David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>> > > | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
>> >
>> > That is a non sequitur. I do not know the employment histories of many
>> people on
>> > Usenet. I am aware that you are a GP, Edeiken is a lawyer, Morris is a
>> postgrad
>> > student, but beyond that I've not a clue. If you were to ask me what
>Fergus or
>> > Bellinger or Van Alstine do, or what their recent employment history is,
>I
>> > wouldn't be able to tell you.
>> >
>> > Your question is actually misleading. It is in fact very dangerous for
>> anyone to
>> > post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
>> their way
>> > back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee on
>> grounds
>> > of racism.
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> David:
>>
>> You've now made that statement twice, yet you can provide no evidence of
>> anyone losing their job because of a Usenet post.
>>
>> Is it your habit to make completely unprovable statements and label them
>> as "facts"?
>>
>> --
>> .sig on vacation; will return in September
>
>There is a risk, Ms Salzman, that if a poster in this group puts one foot on
>the
>live positive rail of the London Underground's Central Line and the other
>foot on
>the live negative rail, he will be roasted alive. It is a very real risk. I
>cannot
>cite any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group but that
>does
>not lessen the fact that it is a risk.
And it is a risk because of your understanding of the demonstrable scientific
rules of electricity, which fact does not apply to your unscientific assertion
that Usenet posters can be fired for their views.
>
>If a poster puts all his money in BP-Amoco shares, there is a very real risk
>that
>the price of oil could go through the floor and he could lose heavily. I
>cannot cite
>any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group -- quite the
>contrary, anyone who had the foresight to invest in BP shares prior to the
>merger
>with Amoco (as I did) would have done very well indeed -- but that does not
>lessen
>the fact that it is a risk.
And it is a risk because of your understanding that individual stocks have
acted this way in the past, which history you do not have for your assertion
that Usenet posters can be fired for their views.
>
>If a poster in this group takes a commercial airplane flight, he stands a 1
>in
>7,000,000 chance of dying in an air crash. The odds of dying in a car crash
>are far,
>far higher. I cannot cite examples of posters in this group dying in either
>commercial airplane flights or car crashes but that does not lessen the fact
>that
>the risks exist.
And this risk is known and quantified through statistical probability based on
actual airplane and automobile accidents, which statistical foundation is
lacking in your assertion that Usenet posters can be fired for their views.
>
>If a poster in this group posts pro-revisionist material, there is a very
>real risk
>that his employers will be made aware of this and he will lost his job. The
>fact
>that I cannot cite examples of this having happened to posters in this group
>does
>not lessen the fact that the risk exists.
You cannot cite it for posters to any usenet group and therefore have presented
nothing other than your opinion that there is a risk. You've also presented
irrelevant examples which you hoped would camouflage the nakedness of your
assertion.
>
>I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please try to rise
>slightly
>above the two-year-old level.
On the contrary, you react to criticism like a spoiled, only child.
Philip Mathews
David Michael’s Himmler Challenge
On 3/5/99 David said: "I still don't have a draft contract, Mr E. All I see is
people fleeing in all directions!"
On 3/9 Draft contract submitted.
On 3/9 David said: "I propose to consult with associates, professionals in the
field and competent counsel prior to accepting any challenge. No contract has
yet been entered into."
On 3/10 David said: "I'm coming up to the end of the financial year here and I
don't have time to apply myself fully to the matter until after 5 April."
On 4/18 David finally responded and said, "Where are you Mr. McVay"?
On 4/18 David said: "I do not insist that any conditions ‘have to be’ met"
On 4/20 David said: "We are negotiating a contract. A draft has been presented
to me. I have commented on it. I now await the final contract which, if it
deals with the points raised, I will sign. Simple as that."
On 5/11 David said: "I will not proceed with this matter until I have received
a full explanation from McVay about why he continues to retain the services of
a man who has admitted that he will have 'boobed' if I sign the contract and
who lies about his own words."
It’s been 71 days and the challenge has not been accepted.
Mr. Michael continues to make a sham of the challenge and a mockery of the
truth.
"Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing
knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant
than would take even a little trouble to acquire it." Samuel Johnson
David
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <3741E85A...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> > Orac wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3741A30A...@cableinet.co.uk>,
> Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> > >
> > > >Orac wrote:
> > >
> > > >> I frequently hear white nationalists and Holocaust revisionists trot out
> > > >> this excuse when questioned about why they post anonymously. However, I
> > > >> have never heard of anyone having problems at his job or his ability to
> > > >> make a living endangered because of posting racist or revisionist
> opinions
> > > >> to Usenet. If posting such viewpoints to Usenet under a real name is such
> > > >> a dangerous thing to do as far as work and ability to make a living are
> > > >> concerned, perhaps you could provide a few examples of real people who
> > > >> posted such opinions to Usenet under their real name and either suffered
> > > >> at or lost their jobs because of it.
> > > >>
> > > >> If posting revisionist and white racist opinions is so dangerous, surely
> > > >> you could easily find several examples.
> > > >
> > > >That is a non sequitur.
> > >
> > > How so?
> >
> > Climbing up the outside of Canary Wharf while blindfolded and dressed as
> a chicken
> > and eating pizza with one hand would be very dangerous but I'm buggered
> if I can
> > find any examples . . .
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I do not know the employment histories of many people on
> > > >Usenet.
> > >
> > > Nice dodge, but it is irrelevant to my question whether you know the
> > > employment history of many people on Usenet.
> >
> > It is entirely relevant because unless you know someone's employment
> history you
> > will not know whether he or she has lost his employment. Duh!
> >
> > > I asked for examples of
> > > people whose careers or source of income were endangered by posting
> > > revisionist or white nationalist views on Usenet. I'd settle for just one
> > > example now.
> > >
> >
> > See above. Let me repost what I've just posted in response to Ms Salzman
> who makes
> > the same idiotic point:
> >
> > <begin quote>
> > There is a risk, Ms Salzman, that if a poster in this group puts one
> foot on the
> > live positive rail of the London Underground's Central Line and the
> other foot on
> > the live negative rail, he will be roasted alive. It is a very real
> risk. I cannot
> >
> > cite any instances of it having happened to any poster in this group but
> that does
> >
> > not lessen the fact that it is a risk.
>
> I said before and I'll say again. Something is a risk because it is PROVED
> risky. People have LOST money in the Stock Market, that's why you can say
> definitively that people *can* lose money.
>
On BP-Amoco shares? Name one.
> Your saying that people *can* lose their jobs without a scintilla of
> evidence that this risk exists is not the same thing at all.
>
I think it is possible to say that a risk exists even before someone has fallen foul
of it. It is done all the time in planning. You look at the things that could go
wrong. You do not restrict yourself to things that have gone wrong in the past
because (i) they might not go wrong in the future and (b) other new things might go
wrong in the future.
> And you've never answered my question.
>
By which I take it you mean that I answered it all too well.
>
> Sara
>
> [rest snipped for bandwidth, and because David is saying nothing new]
>
> --
> .sig on vacation; will return in September
David
David
Fergus McClelland wrote:
> David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >John Morris wrote:
> >
> >> In <373FC769...@cableinet.co.uk>, on Mon, 17 May 1999 08:38:17
> >> +0100, David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> snip.
> >>
> Morris:
> >> So, you are on the side of loathsome antisemite Scott Bradbury, aka
> >> Doc Tavish? Took awhile for you to admit it, but there you have it.
>
> snip
> >
> Morris:
> >> If you ask Scott's ISP to trace his posts, they will laugh at you.
> >> I know, because before I knew better I tried to help the Giwer track
> >> down a mailbomber who was using mixmasters. They laughed at me, too.
>
> snip
>
> Morris:
> >> Nevertheless, you are apparently looking for sonn...@flash.net
>
> Excuse me David while I address a comment to The Morris. Here, we have
> another example of John Morris trying to make trouble for posters of
> whim he disapproves. It is just about all he ever does; either
> publically, or sneakily, in e-mail moans to isps, hunting on DejaNews
> and the like.
>
> >>
> >
> >Aha. More armchair research from Mr Morris?
> >
>
> >Says Mr Morris whose idea of effective opposition to a recent abusive poster
> >was to prance up and down like a fairy making pronouncements about how he
> >wanted to report the individual concerned to the police but wasn't going to
> >in case someone gave the little rat a dose of his own medicine.
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> >> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
> >
> >David
Yes, he does have a certain slimeful, oozy quality. I am sure that if there is an
afterlife he'll come back as some sort of slug.
David
David
steve wolk wrote:
> (lots of excuses snipped)
>
> > I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please try to rise slightly
> > above the two-year-old level.
> >
David
steve wolk wrote:
> After you answer the question.
>
> Steve
Ya didn't ask one.
David
DeppityBob
>> Surely if you don't know of anyone
>> who suffered so for his views posted to Usenet, then perhaps someone who
>> is ideologically like-minded could jump into the fray and help you out
>by
>> producing a couple of examples of revisionists or white nationalists who
>> lost their job because they posted revisionist or white nationalist views
>> to Usenet.
>
>I suspect that the only people who post revisionist views on Usenet are
>those who
>are fairly immune to that sort of attack.
>
>> >It is in fact very dangerous for anyone to
>> >post revisionist views here because the relevant posts could easily find
>> their way
>> >back to an employer who could then use them to terminate the employee
>on
>> grounds
>> >of racism.
>>
>> lost his or her job because he posted revisionist or white nationalist
>> opinions to Usenet under his real name.
>>
>
>I can't give you a single example of anyone who's ever roasted himself alive
>by
>sticking his fingers in an electric plug, but I would not recommend that
>anyone
>try it.
Let me explain to you why your argument fails, Curdles. The analogies you
give--well, some of them, at any rate--DO have established pathologies. People
HAVE gotten electrocuted or burnt by sticking their hands where they shouldn't
have, and people HAVE died by stepping on (or, one guy here in Chicago, pissing
on) the third rail of a subway. So we know that these are bad things. But we
DON'T know if anyone has ever been fired because of posting white nationalist
crap to Usenet. It hasn't happened. Therefore, there is NO THREAT. It simply
has not been established yet. IN fact, it seems to affect employment very
little if at all.
Your arguments are, as usual, hollow.
Dep
"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
--David Mamet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
John Morris
GMT, re...@perdrix.demon.co.uk (Fergus McClelland) wrote:
>>John Morris wrote:
>Morris:
>>> Nevertheless, you are apparently looking for sonn...@flash.net
>Excuse me David while I address a comment to The Morris. Here, we have
>another example of John Morris trying to make trouble for posters of
>whim he disapproves. It is just about all he ever does; either
>publically, or sneakily, in e-mail moans to isps, hunting on DejaNews
>and the like.
Here we have Fergus being his usual lying self.
It doesn't surprise me that a lying hypocrite like you fails to
criticize his Nazi comrade for threatening to complain to someone's
ISP about Scott Bradbury but instead chooses to continue to smear me.
If you you weren't so stupid, Fergus, you'd know that I took the
e-mail address from one of Jeff Brown's posts. Of course, lying
hypocrite that you are, you probably regard my merely reading this
newsgroup as "making trouble" for others.
And it also is not at all a surprise that you still fail to account
for how you got my private e-mail which was not addressed to you, why
you lied about whether I try to get people kicked off their ISPs, why
you lied about the contents of that e-mail, and why you made my
private business a matter of public discussion.
You will avoid these questions because you are fundamentally a
dishonest person. You are the perfect Revisionist.
Please note that I call you a liar as a matter of fact and not of
opinion. I have included this statement in the Subject line so that
anyone reviewing this newsgroup or searching on your name in DejaNews
will inevitably come across it.
Now run away again, chickenshit.
[snip]
steve wolk
>
(rest of garbage snipped)
> Yes, he does have a certain slimeful, oozy quality. I am sure that if there is an
> afterlife he'll come back as some sort of slug.
>
In which case he'll still be several steps above you on the evolutionary
ladder.
Steve
steve wolk
>
> Sara
>
> --
Steve
steve wolk
Besides which, even if it did affect employment, envelope stuffing jobs
are plentiful. With all his experience, he'd be hired first.
Steve
David
Yale, F., Edeiken wrote:
> > David <Dav...@cableinet.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> Those who sold short.
>
> > > Your saying that people *can* lose their jobs without a scintilla of
> > > evidence that this risk exists is not the same thing at all.
>
> > I think it is possible to say that a risk exists even before someone has fallen foul
> > of it. It is done all the time in planning. You look at the things that could go
> > wrong. You do not restrict yourself to things that have gone wrong in the past
> > because (i) they might not go wrong in the future and (b) other new things might go
> > wrong in the future.
>
> And then you evaluate the risk. The way you do that is look at teh facts.
>
> You cannot name a single whio has lost his ore her job because of posts to
> to alt.revisionism.
>
> The risk is,. therfore, negligible.
>
> > > And you've never answered my question.
>
> > By which I take it you mean that I answered it all too well.
>
> By which wshe means your wiggling like a worm on a fishing hook.
>
>
> --YFE
>
> The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
> The Nizkor Project is at http://www.nizkor.org/
> The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
> The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
>
Contract, Yale?
David
David
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <3742179A...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> > Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> [snip]
>
> > > And you've never answered my question.
> > >
> >
> > By which I take it you mean that I answered it all too well.
> >
> Are you taking debating lessons from Joe Bellinger? I said you've NEVER
> asnwered my question.
>
> I'm still waiting, but you never will answer it, because you're pulling
> this fantasy about people losing their jobs right out of your ass, which
> seems to be wherte your brain resides.
>
> Sara
>
> PS. Before you (or anyone else) makes some snide comment about my "foul"
> language, let me just tell you thet there is *nothing* more irritating
> than someone who reads "black" and says "by which you mean white." I very
> rarely say something that isn't *exactly* what I mean.
>
> Sara
>
> --
> .sig on vacation; will return in September
On the contrary, I HAVE answered your question, and your criticism is therefore
dishonest. I will answer again, reducing the argument to its basics.
Your argument is based upon an unfounded assumption and a logical fallacy.
The unfounded assumption is that nobody has ever lost his job for expressing a
politically incorrect opinion (at least on Usenet). People HAVE lost their jobs
for expressing politically incorrect opinions (it is regularly reported in the
British press, the usual victims being policemen and employees of local
authorities) and WE DO NOT KNOW whether people have yet lost their jobs for
expressing politically incorrect opinions on Usenet.
The logical fallacy is 'nobody has ever lost his job for expressing a politically
incorrect opinion in the past, therefore nobody will ever do so in the future'.
The conclusion does not follow from the premise.
I cannot answer any more clearly than that.
David
David
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <37421AE2...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
>
> > steve wolk wrote:
> >
> > > David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > steve wolk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > (lots of excuses snipped)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please
> try to rise slightly
> > > > > > above the two-year-old level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > Be careful, Ms. Salzman. If you rise above the two-year-old level,
> > > > > David will no longer be able to understand you. Then he would have one
> > > > > less person with whom to share his lonely existence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Post evidence.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > After you answer the question.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > Ya didn't ask one.
>
> No, but I did, and you've very carefully avoided answering it.
>
David
DeppityBob wrote:
Now that is probably the worst bit of logic I've seen in my life. 'It hasn't
happened therefore there is no threat.' Mankind has not been wiped out by an
asteroid or a terrible disease. . . therefore there is no threat? People HAVE lost
their jobs as a result of expressing politically unacceptable opinions. Can't cite
names but I've certainly heard of cases. We don't know whether anyone has lost
their job as a result of citing such opinions on Usenet simply because people
generally do not divulge their employment history on Usenet.
> It simply
> has not been established yet. IN fact, it seems to affect employment very
> little if at all.
>
I'd argue that it is extremely dangerous and I would strongly urge all revisionist
posters who are employed by someone else to use a pseudonym and an anonymous
remailer.
>
> Your arguments are, as usual, hollow.
>
Yours are, as always, plain daft.
>
> Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
> --David Mamet
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Like short haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
David
David
steve wolk wrote:
Yup. I'll be one of those really neat little viruses (virii?), causing mayhem for all
the pompous, hypocritical oafs and spreading like wildfire.
David
David
steve wolk wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> > In article <37421AE2...@cableinet.co.uk>, Dav...@cableinet.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > > steve wolk wrote:
> > >
> > > > David wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > steve wolk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > (lots of excuses snipped)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no objection at all to criticism, Ms Salzman, but please
> > try to rise slightly
> > > > > > > above the two-year-old level.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Be careful, Ms. Salzman. If you rise above the two-year-old level,
> > > > > > David will no longer be able to understand you. Then he would have one
> > > > > > less person with whom to share his lonely existence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > > Post evidence.
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > >
> > > > After you answer the question.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > >
> > > Ya didn't ask one.
> >
> > No, but I did, and you've very carefully avoided answering it.
> >
> > Sara
> >
> > --
> As you very well know, David, that was the question I referred to.
>
> Steve
And here is the answer.
DeppityBob
That's right. We don't know. And without evidence, I can just as clearly and
with every bit as much foundation state that it is possible for someone who
states their "politically incorrect" views on Usenet to gain some measure of
respect and following, leading to consulting jobs with political strategists
and guest spots on TV shows, culminating in big-bucks book deals and a regular
magazine column.
Every bit as probable as your scenario, given the evidence.