PAUL KNEISEL IS A COMMUNIST
Nomen Nescio
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ainjrf%241365%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 6 August 2002 -- 6:38
Date: 5 Aug 2002 23:38:07 -0500
Message-ID: <ainjrf$1365$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
"...It is our strategy that participation and intervention in these struggles,
from an anarchist-communist viewpoint... Slowly building a base for a truly mass
revolutionary anarchist movement capable of defeating not only fascist
organizations but also the combined forces of capital and the state... <END>
YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP and BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!
Here you are in bed with communists and I defy you to deny you are a RED to
the core communist with this evidence against you:
Here is YOUR own ANTI-FASCISM.ORG linking to world communist groups:
http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
Traditional Anti-Fascist Groups
Fascism victimized many groups with its crimes against humanity...
Three groups, however, understood the special nature of fascism even before
it took power... They were, respectively, the labor movement, the socialists,
and the communists.
<<NOTE: I bet Peter Outerbridge won't answer what happens to
labor unions once the socialism has transitioned to its
final stage of communism. How may labor unions existed
in the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or how
many labor unions exist in China or Cuba now? Care to
answer what collective bargaining rights the proletariat
has in one of your "dictatorships of the proletariat" for
us Peter Outerbridge?>>
The Second 'Socialist' International
http://www.socialistinternational.org/
Reflecting the politics of the Third 'Communist' International
http://www.yclusa.org/links/wrldlink.html
World Communist Movement Links
The communist movement of youth, students and young workers is on the move
in most countries today. Check out the activities of communist youth
organizations from this partial list of links.
Link Notes
Kommunistischer Studentinn/ en Verband (KSV) Communist Students Union of Austria
Kommunistische Jugend Österreichs (KJÖ) Communist Youth of Austria
Coletius de Juventut Comunista de Catalunya (CJC) Communist Youth of Catalonia
Juventud Comunista Colombiana (JUCO) Colombian Young Communists
United Democratic Youth Organization of Cyprus (EDON)
Kommunistisk Parti i Danmark Ungdom (KPID-U) Youth of the Communist Party in
Denmark
Mouvement Jeunes Communistes du France (MCJF) Movement of Young Communists of
France
Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterjugend (SDAJ) Socialist German Workers Youth
Communist Youth of Greece (KNE)
Workers Youth Party of Ireland (WPY)
Giovani Communisti /e (GC) Young Communists of Italy
Democratic Youth League of Japan (DYLJ)
Norges Kommunistiske Ungdomsforbund (NKU) Norwegian Communist Youth Union
Juventude Comunista Portuguesa (JCP) Portugese Communist Youth.
Sveriges Kommunistiska Ungdomsförbund (SKU) Swedish Communist Youth Union
Union de Juventudes Communistas de España Union of Young Communists of Spain
<end>
Here is the New York State Communist Party USA linking to YOUR
ANTI-FASCISM.ORG web site:
http://www.dezines.com/nyscpusa/tocpage.html
New York State Communist Party USA
Anti-Fascist Web Site
Fascism, the most evil child of capitalism, threatens all working class people
and all progressive organizations... To see how we can fight fascism, please
read the articles on the following web and FTP sites:
http://www.anti-fascism.org
ftp://ftp.nyct.net/pub/users/tallpaul/publish/misc/
<END>
Here is your web site linking to David Lethbridge of The Bethune Institute,
some information about them, and what organizations they link with:
Document Archives
Anti-fascist theory
http://www.anti-fascism.org/doc-af-prop.html
The above will take you to this (and others too):
Lethbridge, David (Bethune Institute for Anti-Fascist Studies) -- see also
Lethbridge writings in "tactics" archive
"Prescription For Fascism: Alternative Medicine and Right-Wing Politics, March
2001 http://www.anti-fascism.org/da/afp/lethbridge-perscription.html
<END>
Just who is Peter Outerbridge's fellow "anti-fascist" and apparent mentor?
Here is what the Bethune Institute returns on David Lethbridge (schill for
communist Norman Bethune):
[Links active December 7, 2002 for verification]
http://bethuneinstitute.org/
This site is dedicated to the militant anti-fascist spirit of Dr. Norman
Bethune.
http://bethuneinstitute.org/index2.html
Once at the index click to read (left hand margin bottom):
BETHUNE:
"Dr. Norman Bethune was born in Gravenhurst, Ontario, in 1890...
After a visit to the Soviet Union, in 1935, he organized the Montreal
Group for the Security of the People's Health, the first organization in Canada
to fight for socialized medicine and universal free medical care. It was in that
same year he joined the Communist Party of Canada and dedicated himself to the
struggle against fascism...
In 1938, Bethune went to China to help Mao-Tse Tung's revolutionary army
defeat the Japanese imperialists... <<We also know Mao murdered millions of
anti-communists too! Tavish comment>> As a Communist, he fought against fascism
and won the gratitude of the working class of the whole world..." <END>
Thus we see one of Peter Outerbridge's aka Paul Kneisel's mentors as being a
communist.
At the same index click to read (left hand margin bottom):
LINKS:
Political Parties
Communist Party of Canada (CPC)
Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
South African Communist Party(SACP)
Anti-fascist and Anti-racist Organizations
Arm the Spirit(ATS)
Anti-Racist Action (ARA)
Political Research Associates (PRA)
Anti-Fascism.org http://www.anti-fascism.org/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<<NOTE: ANTI-FASCISM.ORG is Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel's web site.>>
[...]
"Let us have done, then, with the miserable deception of anti-communism. It has
served Hitler and Mussolini well, but not the enslaved German and Italian
people. It may have a pleasing sound in Tory ears, and salve the consciences of
some spinsterish British labor leaders, but it is rank dishonesty nevertheless."
Dr. Norman Bethune
<END>
UPDATE:
More "communist wisdom" from Peter Outerbridge's comrade's web site:
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://bethuneinstitute.org/home.html
..As long as capitalism exists, the threat of fascism will never be eliminated.
Fascism, as a social and political movement, is a form of capitalism that does
away with the pretence of parliamentary democracy, and rules instead by force
and terror.
Today, neo-fascism is again on the rise... Fascist ideas have entered the social
mainstream and are shifting the political consensus ever further to the right.
In order to help combat and defeat contemporary fascism, the Bethune Institute
is providing an on-going series of documents exposing every facet of this most
anti-democratic form of political expression.
But neo-fascism cannot be eliminated without a radical transformation of
society. Capitalism breeds racism and fascism the way a fly breeds maggots.
The struggle against fascism, and its organized racist core, is at the same time
a revolutionary struggle against capitalism itself....
<END>
That revolution against capitalism is a communist revolution and Norman Bethune
was, in fact, a communist who helped Chairman Mao in his slaughter of millions
of anti-communists.
GOOGLE returns using key words: "Mao Bethune Revolution"
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
collect.at Mao Badges: Pins and Badges from the Cultural ...
.. used in China during the Cultural Revolution and it ... white badge:
Commemorating Bai Qiu En (Norman Bethune). ... red with the character "Chong"
and Mao Portrait www.collect.at/badgeoffer.htm
Lesson Plans on China
.. poem on the Long March and his speech on the selflessness of Norman Bethune,
noting two important aspects of Mao's vision of the revolution: selflessness...
Revolutionary China: The Rise Of The Communist Party...
www.columbia.edu/itc/eacp/webcourse/chinaworkbook/Lesson_Plan/RevCh_Rise_Communist.htm
1939: In Memory of Norman Bethune
.. text of the Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung ... Comrade Norman Bethune,[1] a
member of the Communist ... Leninism teaches that the world revolution can only
succeed if ... www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1939/12.htm
(Excerpts)
In Memory of Norman Bethune
by MAO TSE-TUNG December, 1939
Comrade Norman Bethune, a member of the Communist Party of Canada, was around
fifty when he was sent by the Communist Parties of Canada and the United States
to China... He arrived in Yenan in the spring of last year, went to work in the
Wutai Mountains, and to our great sorrow died a martyr at his post. What kind of
spirit is this that makes a foreigner selflessly adopt the cause of the Chinese
people's liberation as his own? It is the spirit of internationalism, the spirit
of communism, from which every Chinese Communist must learn. Leninism teaches
that the world revolution can only succeed if the proletariat of the capitalist
countries supports the struggle for liberation of the colonial and semi-colonial
peoples and if the proletariat of the colonies and semi-colonies supports the
proletariat of the capitalist countries. Comrade Bethune put his Leninist line
into practice. We Chinese Communists must also follow this line in our practice.
We must unite with the proletariat of all the capitalist countries, with the
proletariat of Japan, Britain, the United States, Germany, Italy and all other
capitalist countries, for this is the only way to overthrow imperialism... <END>
NEED I SAY MORE? Norman Bethune was a Comrade of MAO TSE-TUNG himself and the
Bethune Institute is nothing more than a communist front for revolution and
subversion!
There is an old proverb which states: "If it walks like a duck, quacks like
a duck, and looks like a duck-- then its a duck." and only a communist would
espouse these views and advertise such web sites which are obviously communist
fronts:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4b61ru4nhbn5pakn88k7p89c2bu1fa3rgn%404ax.com&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct-nospam-or-fascism.net>
Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tue, 15 October 2002 -- 6:58 (#706)
Message-ID: <4b61ru4nhbn5pakn8...@4ax.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:32:07 -0400
"-- Call for a Revolutionary Anti-Fascist Bloc... Perhaps five hundred
anti-fascist demonstrators were there... Most of the demonstrators were part of
leftist groups like Left Turn, InternationalSocialist Organization (ISO), and
Anti-Capitalist Convergence (ACC).... <END>
What political ideology is anti-capitalist and is in good company with
socialists?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=aanq90%24pfu%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: TINAF Supplement #188 (#677): Fascist Le Pen and the French
Date: 30 Apr 2002 23:17:36 -0500
Message-ID: <aanq90$pfu$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
"The hope it's also the youth which fights massively against the capitalist
globalization and the fascism. I address all the left voters, the socialists,
the environmentalist communists but also the associative, union activists to
organize a popular resistance on the way up of the extreme right, in a big
all together against the fascism and the employers."
What political ideology has views you espoused above?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8lbjkucvi5f54ieop8p9svtq6g6fpo208o%404ax.com&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct-nospam-or-fascism.net>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.socialism.trotsky
Subject: Re: WV Did NOT Lie about the anti-Klan rally
Message-ID: <8lbjkucvi5f54ieop...@4ax.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:57:39 -0400
"Diamond must mean neofascist Russia, neofascist because it worships
capitalist technology.." <END>
It is obvious you are upset because the Russians forsook their communism!
Here you are advocating schools educate against anti-communism among
other things (who other than a communist would be against being
anti-communist?):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=x3F13.898%24G3.28089%40news13.ispnews.com&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Subject: (en)[excerpts] The Internet Anti-Fascist, Fri 14 May 99 -- 3:36/37
(#264-265)
Date: 1999/05/22
Message-ID: <x3F13.898$G3.2...@news13.ispnews.com>
"The prescription for the political illness of fascism is education...
Teachers, school administrators, students and parents need to recognize
and talk frankly about the dangers posed by fascist organizers in their
midst or on the internet... [T]he response should be.. why the whole student
body has an interest in taking a stand against... anti-communism, " <END>
If you are against anti-communists then it is a reasonable assumption
you're pro-communist!
How about this communist psycho-babble?
http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/pen-l/jan98/0071.html
Psycho-dynamics of Homo Economicus
Sun, 04 Jan 1998 00:48:08 -0500
Paul Kneisel (tall...@nyct.net)
My own researches in this area, though, initially centered on the anal
theory of money and the anal character. Specific work involved the changes
in the class and sub-class identifications of the anal character as key
industrial dynamics underwent internal changes (e.g. the identification of
the anal character with the early bourgeoisie to the later identification
with remaining entrepreneurs and the petty bourgeoisie.)
Recently my interests have been around the transformation question as
examined in Vol. II of Capital and elsewhere. The intense intra-firm and
intra-industry competition around the transformation problem has given rise
to a particular real world phenomenon with massive impact on internal
psycho-dynamics.
The shift in the industrial dynamic from accumulation to transformation has
also produced significant shifts in characterology, from the compulsive
saving/hoarding anal character to the impulsive discharging/spending
urethral character.
Ironically, urethral eroticism has become the fourth lost libido in
classical psychoanalysis. While my interest in psychoanalysis is
anthropological and not therapeutic, urethral aspects of early theories of
narcissism were never examined. Nor have even the therapeutic-oriented
psychoanalysis investigated such areas for the treatment of narcissistic
and borderline conditions that afflict (or are afflicted by) late
capitalism they way that Victorian society produced sexual hysterics.
<END>
What other mind than a communist mind would compose the twaddle above!?
The above text also gives a hint of your sexual orientation too! You only
prove many communists are also homosexualist in their perverted and distorted
view of the world.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2rckstkv3ut27b8dh8b41u93mbodar27io%404ax.com&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Subject: Re: A Response to Burnore
Message-ID: <2rckstkv3ut27b8dh...@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:26:01 GMT
"The "net cops" (in the good sense) focus their efforts on the worst
problem. They don't look for political spam; they search for spam whose
content is sexual or reflects cockroach-capitalism..." <END>
This is from YOUR own web site too commie boy and it looks like you are
very much a communist:
ftp://ftp.nyct.net/pub/users/tallpaul/docs/anti-fa/afdoc041.txt
The People's Front
Georgi Dimitrov
Dec 1936
Transcribed for the Internet by Zodiac
downloaded from The Dimitrov Internet Archive
The policy of the People's Front of struggle against fascism and war,
proclaimed by the Seventh Congress of the Communist International...
The governments of capitalist countries, bourgeois parties, statesmen and
politicians, bourgeois newspapers, have all become seriously alarmed by the
decisions of the Congress. The reactionaries of all countries have raised an
unparalleled campaign of slander and calumny against the Communist
International and against all adherents of the People's Front. In fascist
Germany they have even formed a special organization, called the
"Anti-Comintern," to carry on propaganda on an international scale against
the Communist International and to combat the policy of the People's Front...
The People's Front helps the working class to avoid the political isolation
toward which the bourgeoisie purposely impels it; it creates the most
favorable conditions for the working class to accomplish its historic role,
to head the struggle of their people against the small clique of financial
magnates, big capitalists...
<END>
Info on Peter Outerbridge's obvious communist front ANTI-FASCISM.ORG:
The obvious pro-communist ISP:
http://www.nyct.net/index.html
New York Connect.Net
317 Madison Avenue, Suite #907
New York, N.Y, 10017
Phone: (212) 293-2620
TOLL FREE: 877.NYCT.NET
Fax: (212) 293-2628
For technical support contact: sup...@nyct.net
in...@nyct.net
hostm...@NYCT.NET
CEO of NYCT.NET
and...@nyct.net
VeriSign's authentication of ANTI-FASCISM.ORG:
Registrant:
anti-fascism.org (ANTI-FASCISM-DOM)
200 East Tenth Street #603
New York NY,10003 US
Domain Name: ANTI-FASCISM.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Outerbridge, Peter (PO815) tall...@NYCT.NET
<<Notice there is no "Paul Kneisel" associated with the <tall...@NYCT.NET>
e-mail address! That e-mail address belongs to Peter Outerbridge NOT Paul
Kneisel.>>
anti-fascism.org
200 East Tenth Street #603
New York,, NY 10003
<<That street address is actually the address of the "FEH! Press" which
distributes radical underground anarchist-communist publications.>>
Record expires on 20-Dec-2002.
Record created on 19-Dec-1997.
Database last updated on 21-Dec-2002 06:52:24 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
BSD1.NYCT.NET 216.139.128.3
BSD2.NYCT.NET 216.139.128.4
<END>
---
"If communism and fascism both lead to the same end, ie. totalitarianism, Why is
it that anyone who challenges and exposes international fascism is "good", and
anyone who challenges and exposes international communism is "bad"?"
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/comweb.htm
Ken McVay
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
[flushed down the ol' ellis]
--
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465021522/thenizkorproject:
Lying About Hitler, by Dr. Richard Evans
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393020444/thenizkorproject
The Holocaust on Trial, by D.D. Guttenplan
Patrick Humphrey
wrote:
Shut up, Blubberbury.
--PLH, Bradbury's ravings are proof that industrial waste is not good for you
Nomen Nescio
>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:10:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
>wrote:
>> Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul Kneisel:
>
>Shut up, Blubberbury.
>
I am not Blubberbury; get it Humpboys.
I thought you stated at one time Bradbury hadn't ever proved Paul Kneisel
was a communist.
"All you've done. Scott, is screech "Peter Outerbridge is a Communist!", while
not bothering to provide any proof at all."
-From: "Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@hagbard.io.com>
-Subject: Re: Why Isn't "Paul Kneisel" Laughing at His Own Joke Patrick?
-I am Laughing Still My Ass Off!
-Message-ID: <slrnaubc17....@hagbard.io.com>
-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:54:07 -0600
>--PLH, Bradbury's ravings are proof that industrial waste is not good for you
What ravings? All I have seen him produce is words your fellow comrade himself
ranted. I guess what your pal rants are typical Republican or Democrat dialogue. Still want to insist Paul Kneisel is not a communist?
Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul Kneisel:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ainjrf%241365%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&output=gplain
Orac
> Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul Kneisel:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ainjrf%241365%241%40pencil.math.missouri.
> edu&output=gplain
> From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
> Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
> Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 6 August 2002 -- 6:38
> Date: 5 Aug 2002 23:38:07 -0500
> Message-ID: <ainjrf$1365$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
> "...It is our strategy that participation and intervention in these
> struggles,
> from an anarchist-communist viewpoint... Slowly building a base for a truly
> mass
> revolutionary anarchist movement capable of defeating not only fascist
> organizations but also the combined forces of capital and the state... <END>
>
> YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP and BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!
>
> Here you are in bed with communists and I defy you to deny you are a RED to
> the core communist with this evidence against you:
>
> Here is YOUR own ANTI-FASCISM.ORG linking to world communist groups:
>
> http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
<SNIP>
Even if it were true that Paul is a Communist, so freakin' what?
Keep in mind that my politics are pretty conservative, as I'm sure Paul
would be happy to tell you.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
Paul Kneisel
That is my view in the area of anti-fascism as well.
But Bradbury's ostensible proof consists of a forgery: he takes a web page,
removes the anti-communist organizations listed there, adds a whole string
of Communist ones, and then prints it claiming it is the original page.
>Keep in mind that my politics are pretty conservative, as I'm sure Paul
>would be happy to tell you.
Yes. I suppose that is true. Orac is certainly a conservative, though I
imagine his politics are more old line conservative then modern. There
aren't too many conservatives today as active opposing fascist propaganda
as Orac is. (Like perhaps 2?)
Paul Kneisel
>In article <ccf3d2dedec42f1f...@dizum.com>,
>Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>[flushed down the ol' ellis]
I think it would be more accurate to say that I was with a group of people
sympathetic to Anti Racist Action when people alledge that Harold "Bugs"
Bunny was shot.
We were on the New York City subway system when there was this white dude
with big ears and big feet wearing stomping boots of the sort traditionally
called "Doc Martins." One of the ARAers knew of him and his nickname "Bugs"
because of his near-psychotic levels of violence.
As we passed him he started to make threating and obscene gestures to one
of the ARA women, constantly making wiggling sounds with his large front
teeth and reminding her of his traditional skinhead boots, demanding she
repeatedly answer his question "What's up Doc?"
Well, to make a long story short, Bugs started a brawl and in the course of
it got shot. I didn't see exactly what happened. I heard rumors he pulled a
gun and in the scuffle managed to shoot himself.
But that's just a rumor.
Ken McVay
You DENY being there when Bugs was shot?
You DENY stealing his carrots?
Nomen Nescio
>In article <ccf3d2dedec42f1f...@dizum.com>,
> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>> Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul Kneisel:
>>
>> Here is YOUR own ANTI-FASCISM.ORG linking to world communist groups:
>>
>> http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
>
><SNIP>
>
>Even if it were true that Paul is a Communist, so freakin' what?
Seeing how you hate Nazis for all the deaths they caused in the 20th
Century; it would only be logical you would be against a person who
embraces an ideology which has killed and is killing even more people.
You don't sense a slight bit of hypocrisy on your part? Communism still
has over a billion people enslaved today and Nazism does not exist as
a political entity.
>Keep in mind that my politics are pretty conservative, as I'm sure Paul
>would be happy to tell you.
You aren't much of a conservative if you don't view communists in the
same light as you view Nazis or people you think are nazis.
Here is your pal running his mouth again and I want you to try to tell me
how you would fare if Paul and his comrades were to convert America to
Amerika.
Here is your pal advocating a communist revolution and notice who the
targets are;
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ainjrf%241365%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 6 August 2002 -- 6:38
Date: 5 Aug 2002 23:38:07 -0500
Message-ID: <ainjrf$1365$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
"...It is our strategy that participation and intervention in these struggles,
from an anarchist-communist viewpoint... Slowly building a base for a truly mass
revolutionary anarchist movement capable of defeating not only fascist
organizations but also the combined forces of capital and the state... <END>
Here is one of your pal's idols and notice how he helped foment the Chinese Cultural Revolution which murdered millions of anti-communists;
Paul Kneisel
No, I don't deny being there when Bugs was shot. I was present at the time
that people allege Harold Bunny was shot. I didn't see it. I didn't hear
it. I only found out about it a couple of days later.
>You DENY stealing his carrots?
Do I look like a fucking vegan to you, turkey?
Ken McVay
>Century; it would only be logical you would be against a person who
>embraces an ideology which has killed and is killing even more people.
Like, er, Democracy, for example?
>You don't sense a slight bit of hypocrisy on your part? Communism still
>has over a billion people enslaved today and Nazism does not exist as
>a political entity.
That's funny.... I've met a large number of students from Mainland
China who don't feel the least bit "enslaved." Do you suppose they
know something you don't?
They are, strangely enough, all from wealthy Chinese families...
wealthy Capitalist families, from all over China.
They would look at you as if you were a fool. Come to think of it,
that makes perfect sense - you ARE a fool.
Did you know that Communism was perfectly legal in Canada, and that
folks representing the CP of Canada run for Parliament every time an
election rolls around?
Most folks just laugh at 'em, and we never, ever, look under our beds
or lock up our daughters.
I guess you should start the anonymous publication of 900-line
incomprehensible rants about Canadians, too, dimwit. Eh?
Bradbury: http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bradbury-scott/
Ken McVay
I suppose you know from nothing about MICKEY, either? You know very
well he hasn't been seen since Minnie ran off with DUMBO.
>>You DENY stealing his carrots?
>
>Do I look like a fucking vegan to you, turkey?
You Pinkos ALWAYS cover up the carrot thefts, don't you? Is that
because they're almost RED, and you can't resist?
Black Knight
> In article <ccf3d2dedec42f1f...@dizum.com>,
> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> [flushed down the ol' ellis]
T'was not Kneisel doth the dirty deed
T'was I with my little bow and arrow
I shot an arrow into the air
Where it landed I know not where
Except I did hear a rabbit cursing
Wilyum Tell
Black Knight
So was Nikita Khrushev.Big deal.
Bruno
Patrick Humphrey
wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:36:50 -0600, <slrnb1rgdn....@eris.io.com>
> Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:10:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul
>>> Kneisel:
>>Shut up, Blubberbury.
> I am not Blubberbury; get it Humpboys.
You're just the typical anonymous coward.
> I thought you stated at one time Bradbury hadn't ever proved Paul Kneisel
> was a communist.
He still hasn't. (and never will, for that matter -- Bradbury and reality
aren't exactly on speaking terms, these days)
> "All you've done. Scott, is screech "Peter Outerbridge is a Communist!",
> while not bothering to provide any proof at all."
> -From: "Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@hagbard.io.com>
...and, indeed, he still hasn't, so what's your problem, no-balls?
>>--PLH, Bradbury's ravings are proof that industrial waste is not good for you
> What ravings? All I have seen him produce is words your fellow comrade
> himself ranted. I guess what your pal rants are typical Republican or
> Democrat dialogue. Still want to insist Paul Kneisel is not a communist?
When you and your fellow sockpuppets get around to proving your assertion,
maybe you'll be worth listening to. Meanwhile, all you're proving is that
you're the typical Nazikook. Free clue: your hero killed himself 58 years
ago. Please emulate him stat.
--PLH, and make the world a better place
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
>>Seeing how you hate Nazis for all the deaths they caused in the 20th
>>Century; it would only be logical you would be against a person who
>>embraces an ideology which has killed and is killing even more people.
>
>Like, er, Democracy, for example?
>
Communism is not a democracy.
>>You don't sense a slight bit of hypocrisy on your part? Communism still
>>has over a billion people enslaved today and Nazism does not exist as
>>a political entity.
>
>That's funny.... I've met a large number of students from Mainland
>China who don't feel the least bit "enslaved." Do you suppose they
>know something you don't?
>
They were also loyalists to the communist state. No one gets out of China
not unless they are loyal to the party.
>They are, strangely enough, all from wealthy Chinese families...
>wealthy Capitalist families, from all over China.
>
>They would look at you as if you were a fool. Come to think of it,
>that makes perfect sense - you ARE a fool.
>
Just like a communist to make smear.
This documentation shows how much you dislike anti-communists;
The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461
Who other than a communist would be against anti-communism?
Many people are ambivalent and don't care either way because they are
"too busy" to see the "Red Menace" devouring their freedoms bit by bit,
piece by piece BUT when a person is vehemently against anti-communists
then is it safe to assume they are pro-communist?
Nizkor director Ken McVay is anti-nazi BUT he is NOT anti-communist himself
as these archives tend to indicate.
Here is Ken McVay and his NIZKOR.ORG equating anti-communism to racism!
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity/religion-white-racists.html
Christian Identity: A Religion for White Racists
"...Christians sometimes connect with this movement because of Identity's
espousal of issues such as right-to-life and anti-Communism. Because of this
vulnerability it is important for Christians to know and understand Identity's
false and racist teachings.... Another speaker used by most groups is Lt. Col.
Jack Mohr, whose specialty is anti-Communism." <END>
What is wrong with right-to-life or being "Pro-Life" and being an
anti-communist? You do NOT have to follow Christian Identity
(which I am not a follower of) to have those beliefs. What is wrong
with being an anti-communist Ken? Are you therefore pro-communist?
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/hf-i-overview.html
The Heritage Front Affair
Report to the Solicitor General of Canada
Security Intelligence Review Committee
December 9, 1994
"...the Edmund Burke Society in 1967. This Toronto-based organization,
described as "fringe right" by Stanley Barrett, covered the gamut of
right-wing issues, although anti-communism started out as the main focus
of its attack." <END>
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Message-ID: <20E5F...@edus2.educ.monash.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:12:14 CDT
Reply-To: History of Antisemitism List
Sender: History of Antisemitism List
From: Paul Gardner R313 x52854
Subject: The Demidenko/Darville affair
B'nai B'rith District 21 (Australia and New Zealand)
B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission
Research Division
"Demidenko's mind-set, inherited one imagines from her
upbringing, is the result of anti-Communism..." <END>
The person mentioned is being raked over the coals by
B'nai Brith and its attack dog Nizkor!
Can anyone show any archive where B'nai Brith or Nizkor has
ever condemned communism out right? Can anyone show any archives
where B'nai Brith or its attack dog Nizkor has ever shown any
leaning toward anti-communism?
Here is a Nizkor archive which compares a conservative to fascism:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/buchanan-pat/berlet-01.html
Buchanan & Fascism: A Serious Look
"The Roots of the Culture War
Spanning the breadth of the antidemocratic hard right is the banner of the
Culture War. The idea of the Culture War was promoted by strategist Paul
Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation. In 1987, Weyrich commissioned a
study, Cultural Conservatism: Toward a New National Agenda, which argued
that cultural issues provided antiliberalism with a more unifying concept
than economic conservatism. Cultural Conservatism: Theory and Practice
followed in 1991... The Christian Coalition could conceivably evolve into
a more mainstream conservative political movement, or--especially if the
economy deteriorates--it could build a mass base for fascism similar to
the clerical fascist movements of mid-century Europe. For decades
anti-communism was the glue that bound together the various tendencies on
the right. Ironically, the collapse of communism in Europe allowed the US
political right to shift its primary focus from an extreme and hyperbolic
anti-communism... dominate the right wing of the Republican Party, and
included Patrick Buchanan, Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum, Pat Robertson's
Christian Coalition, the Rockford Institute, David Noebel's Summit
Ministries, and Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation and Institute for
Cultural Conservatism. Of more historical importance are the John Birch
Society, the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade..." <END>
Doesn't it seem like Nizkor director Ken McVay's favorite color would be RED?
Why is "anti-communism" shown in a negative light at his B'nai Brith funded
web site?
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
"The record to date leads to the conclusion that the
Republican National Committee and the network around the American
Security Council and World Anti-Communist League may consider it
forgivable to have been a fascist collaborator so long as one is
today an active anti-communist pursuing the maintenance of the
Cold War in foreign policy and extremist right-wing politics at
home." <END>
Ken McVay definitely does not like anti-communists!
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
Shofar FTP Archive File: orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
"...Paul Fromm and Ron Gostick who were publicly perceived to be associated
with extremist views. Another letter from the Party also said, apparently,
that Fromm was working with Gamble in the World Anti-Communist League
during the mid-1980s. Gamble was the North American Chairman of the World Anti-
Communist League and was the subject of an article in "This" Magazine.
He said that Don Blenkarn and others in the Conservative Party were also
mentioned as supporters of the League." <END>
Is McVay trying to link "extremist views" to being an anti-communist and a
conservative? You all decide.
Here are archives where Nizkor's Ken McVay and his master B'nai Brith
condemn anti-communists:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/bc/university-of-victoria/hatred-in-canada/B-Winn.html
Combatting Hatred in Canada
"... It is difficult to record and determine the extent of hate-motivated
activities because they are not systematically collected and reported on.
Organizations such as the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
actively seek out this information... Most acts of right-wing violence were
acts committed by individuals unaffiliated or not claiming membership with
a particular group, or by groups not wishing to be publicly identified by
their actions. The bulk of actions for which a culprit could be found have
been executed in recent years by... anti-communist nationalists..."
Anti-communism is associated with hate.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-002-00
Shofar FTP Archive File
"In researching the issue of hate-motivated criminal conduct,
this study examined existing criminal law practice in Canada
and ...publications by interested private organizations (e.g., the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada... Most acts of right-wing
violence were acts committed by individuals unaffiliated or not claiming
membership with a particular group, ...while the remainder are equally
divided between neo-fascist groups, such as the Western Guard, and
anti-communist nationalists.."
Seems anti-communism is hateful in some people's eyes and they ignore the
truth communism has murdered, enslaved, and tortured far more people than
the Nazis or anyone else! If Nizkor ET AL condemns Nazis then why are they
protective of communists?
http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/decisions/docs/league-e.htm
T.D. 15/92
Decision rendered December 16, 1992
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6 (as amended)
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL
BETWEEN:
LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
B'NAI BRITH CANADA (MIDWEST REGION)
[...]
B. THE COMPLAINTS
These complaints are brought by one individual and three organizations
under subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act. The complainants
are ... The League for Human Rights B'Nai Brith Canada
(Midwest Region)...
Subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6
(CHRA) provides:
"It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of
persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to
cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by
means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within
the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is
likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by
reason of the fact that the person or those persons are
identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of
discrimination."
[...]
(1) Themes Which Promote Hatred:
(g) Anti-Communist Ideology
<END>
Thus a Canadian Court equated anti-communism to promotion of hatred and who
brought on the suit? ANSWER: LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS B'NAI BRITH CANADA (The
same people who launder exempt donations for Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG!!)
Proof LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS B'NAI BRITH is McVay's funding arm:
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada....
LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS B'NAI BRITH If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.).... <END>
There you have B'nai Brith having a court rule: "Themes Which Promote
Hatred: Anti-Communist Ideology" yet they champion themselves as the
preservers of human rights and the communists are the very worse violators!
Does hypocrisy come to mind?
>Did you know that Communism was perfectly legal in Canada,
As I showed above a court ruled an anti-communist ideology was hate at the behest of your money launderer LHR of B'nai Brith who would never condemn
communists seeing how their forefathers founded it as an ideology.
>and that folks representing the CP of Canada run for Parliament every time an
>election rolls around?
>
>Most folks just laugh at 'em, and we never, ever, look under our beds
>or lock up our daughters.
>
>I guess you should start the anonymous publication of 900-line
>incomprehensible rants about Canadians, too, dimwit. Eh?
>
http://www.physics.ncat.edu/~michael/vses/eth4000/victim.html
TO THE VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM, LEST WE FORGET
By Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
December 7, 1995
In 1993, President Clinton signed Public Law 103-199, authorizing a memorial
in Washington to those who died in the ``unprecedented imperial Communist
holocaust'' that began in 1917. It is a memorial long overdue. And it is
well-suited to Washington, the capital of the Free World and the headquarters
of what President Kennedy called the ``long twilight struggle'' against the
totalitarians of the Left. When completed, the Victims of Communism Memorial
will include a museum documenting the crimes committed by the disciples of
Marx and Lenin; original artifacts from the bitter night of Communist
brutality (a piece of the Berlin Wall, a cell from the ``Hanoi Hilton'');
and a database preserving the names of those wiped out in history's greatest
slaughter.
Or at least as many of those names as can be identified. It is impossible
that we shall ever know them all. Every one of the hundreds of thousands of
Cossacks butchered on Lenin's orders in 1919? Every Miskito Indian killed in
Nicaragua under the Sandinistas? Every Chinese peasant, all 2 million-plus
of them, obliterated during Mao Zedong's ``land reform'' in the early 1950s?
Impossible.
For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with
Communism. The Nazis didn't come close. The Holocaust was uniquely malignant
- never before or since did one people construct a vast industry of death
for the sole purpose of rounding up and destroying every single member of
another people. But the Nazis exterminated 11 million innocents; the
Communist death toll surpasses 100 million. Nazi power lasted from 1933 to
1945. The Communist nightmare began in November 1917, and continues to this
day.
Savagery has always been a hallmark of Communism. It is an ideology that
requires the destruction of human beings. ``We have never rejected terror in
principle,'' wrote Lenin in 1901, ``nor can we do so.''
Half a century later, even as he denounced the extremes to which his predecessors
went, Nikita Khrushchev vowed that the terror so esteemed by Lenin would go
on. ``The questioning of Stalin's terror,'' he cautioned the Twentieth Party
Congress in 1956, ``may lead to the questioning of terror in general. But
Bolshevism believes in the use of terror.'' Not long afterward, Khrushchev
sent 3,000 Soviet tanks to crush the Hungarian freedom fighters.
Communism equals murder. Everywhere. Always.
In Ukraine, for example, where 7 million people were starved to death on the
Kremlin's orders. ``If you go now to the Ukraine or the North Caucuses,''
wrote British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge in 1933, ``exceedingly beautiful
countries and formerly amongst the most fertile in the world, you will find
them like a desert; . . . no livestock or horses; villages deserted; peasants
famished, often their bodies swollen, unutterably wretched.'' Farmers who
took grain or vegetables from their own land were shot. Dead bodies littered
the streets of Kharkov, the capital. ``It was,'' an eyewitness later recalled,
``as if the Black Death had passed through.''
Communism equaled murder in Ethiopia, where Mengistu Haile Mariam became
dictator in 1977 and embarked on what he called his ``Red Terror.'' Tens of
thousands were massacred, including the graduating seniors of almost every
high school in Addis Ababa.
Communism equaled murder in North Vietnam as far back as 1945, when Ho Chi
Minh resolved to annihilate his Nationalist rivals. ``It was appalling,''
recorded the historian Lucien Bodard. ``Thousands, maybe tens of thousands
of men had been liquidated . . .. The intention was that horror and dread
should extinguish the last trace of respect for them among the masses: Their
execution had to be both shameful and terrifying. That was the reason for
the mass executions of hundreds at once, the fields of prisoners buried
alive, the harrows dragged over men buried up to the neck.''
Communism equaled murder in Tibet, where Mao's campaign to extirpate
Buddhist culture turned 1.2 million Tibetans into corpses. It equaled murder
in gentle Cambodia, where the bloodlust of the Khmer Rouge vaporized one-
third of the nation in less than four years. It equaled murder in Cuba, in
East Germany, in Afghanistan. From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the
Adriatic - murder. In the Gulag and the laogai - murder. At Tienanmen Square
- murder. In the Korean War and the Vietnam War, in the forest of Katyn and
the dungeons of the Lubyanka - murder.
One hundred million victims of Communism. And those are only the victims who
were slain. It doesn't include those who were maimed or driven mad. Those
whose lives went dark when a loved one was butchered. Those who spun out
their years in potato queues, in vodka stupors, in daily fear. It doesn't
include those who wasted 30 years as slaves in Siberia. The boat people who
flung themselves into the South China Sea. The stifled poets, the gagged
priests, the tormented refuseniks, the exiled democrats.
Rarely do we think of them, or of the hundred million. We forget how
pathologically evil Communism has been, or why we poured so much blood and
treasure into fighting the Cold War. It is to correct that amnesia that the
Victims of Communism Memorial will be built.
<END>
The above text is also mirrored at these sites:
http://www.gulag.hu/jacoby.htm
http://www.sid-ss.net/ref/vocmf.htm
http://www.globalspin.org/million_dead_russia.html
Here is the death count form a university:
http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html
-IV. Genocide-
J. Bradford DeLong
University of California at Berkeley and NBER
January 1997
Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century: Top Twenty Regimes
Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000
1917-1990
China (Communists) 35,200,000
1949-present
Germany (Nazi Third Reich) 20,900,000
1933-1945
China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000
1928-1949
Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000
1936-1945
China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000
1923-1948
Cambodia (Communists) 2,000,000
1975-1979
Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000
1909-1917
Vietnam (Communists) 1,700,000
1945-present
North Korea (Communists) 1,700,000
1948-present
Poland (Communists) 1,600,000
1945-1948
Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000
1971
Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000
1900-1920
Yugoslavia (Communists) 1,100,000
1944-1990
Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000
1900-1917
Turkey (Mustafa Kemal "Ataturk") 900,000
1918-1923
United Kingdom (Constitutional) 800,000
1900-present
Portugal (Fascist) 700,000
1926-1975
Croatia (Fascists) 700,000
1941-1945
Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000
1965-present
Annmarie
read some of (not very worthwile reading but better than none) foia on cia
and fbi about anti-communism. Well, I am the communist and give no fu..
about their attacks probably same as they do. But anyway saying nazism and
facism is just the opposite of communis thus very similar is a pure lie.
However if you were put under crazy propaganda of us from 50' till now you
wouldnt be sure. For me its enuff to read about marilyn monroe and how she
died to see in comparison to my country if political police in communism was
as bad.
Look at europe and the red wing of euro parliament. The communist and
leftists are not pure ideals-lovers.
Hint for white nazi dumbos including before mentioned white bloke nescio
Compare the %% of leftists to %% of nazis like you in euro-parliament.
Tchuess
Miriam
"Ken McVay" <kmc...@vex.net> wrote in message
news:7soT9.302$q%3.158...@news.nnrp.ca...
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
>On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:44:28 -0500, Orac <or...@wlsfanmail.com>
><orac-C2F17D.1...@news4.sucknews.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <ccf3d2dedec42f1f...@dizum.com>,
>> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Addressed to Comrade Peter Outerbridge <tall...@nyct.net> aka Paul Kneisel:
>>>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ainjrf%241365%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 6 August 2002 -- 6:38
Date: 5 Aug 2002 23:38:07 -0500
Message-ID: <ainjrf$1365$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
"...It is our strategy that participation and intervention in these
struggles, from an anarchist-communist viewpoint... Slowly building a base for
a truly mass revolutionary anarchist movement capable of defeating not only
fascist organizations but also the combined forces of capital and the state... <END>
>>> YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP and BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!
>>>
>>> Here you are in bed with communists and I defy you to deny you are a RED to
>>> the core communist with this evidence against you:
>>>
>>> Here is YOUR own ANTI-FASCISM.ORG linking to world communist groups:
>>>
>>> http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
>>
>><SNIP>
>>
>>Even if it were true that Paul is a Communist, so freakin' what?
>>
>
>That is my view in the area of anti-fascism as well.
>
>But Bradbury's ostensible proof consists of a forgery: he takes a web page,
>removes the anti-communist organizations listed there, adds a whole string
>of Communist ones, and then prints it claiming it is the original page.
>
You admitted you're a communist in the quote above. Your web page does link
to communist organizations. YOU LIED; THERE ARE NO ANTI-COMMUNIST ORGANIZATIONS!
http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
Traditional Anti-Fascist Groups
Fascism victimized many groups with its crimes against humanity...
Three groups, however, understood the special nature of fascism even before
it took power... They were, respectively, the labor movement, the socialists,
and the communists.
The Second 'Socialist' International
<end>
I would hardly say your web page is anti-communist with a line up like
the links above show! Also the New York State branch of the Communist Party
USA links to your web site;
http://www.dezines.com/nyscpusa/tocpage.html
New York State Communist Party USA
Anti-Fascist Web Site
Fascism, the most evil child of capitalism, threatens all working class people
and all progressive organizations... To see how we can fight fascism, please
read the articles on the following web and FTP sites:
http://www.anti-fascism.org
ftp://ftp.nyct.net/pub/users/tallpaul/publish/misc/
<END>
Your own web site links to a side kick of Chairman Mao as shown here;
<END>
[...]
Dr. Norman Bethune
<END>
UPDATE:
http://bethuneinstitute.org/home.html
As long as capitalism exists, the threat of fascism will never be eliminated.
Fascism, as a social and political movement, is a form of capitalism that does
away with the pretence of parliamentary democracy, and rules instead by force
and terror.
Today, neo-fascism is again on the rise... Fascist ideas have entered the social
mainstream and are shifting the political consensus ever further to the right.
In order to help combat and defeat contemporary fascism, the Bethune Institute
is providing an on-going series of documents exposing every facet of this most
anti-democratic form of political expression.
But neo-fascism cannot be eliminated without a radical transformation of
society. Capitalism breeds racism and fascism the way a fly breeds maggots.
The struggle against fascism, and its organized racist core, is at the same time
a revolutionary struggle against capitalism itself....
<END>
That revolution against capitalism is a communist revolution and Norman Bethune
was, in fact, a communist who helped Chairman Mao in his slaughter of millions
of anti-communists.
GOOGLE returns using key words: "Mao Bethune Revolution"
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
collect.at Mao Badges: Pins and Badges from the Cultural ...
used in China during the Cultural Revolution and it ... white badge:
Commemorating Bai Qiu En (Norman Bethune). ... red with the character "Chong"
and Mao Portrait www.collect.at/badgeoffer.htm
Lesson Plans on China
poem on the Long March and his speech on the selflessness of Norman Bethune,
noting two important aspects of Mao's vision of the revolution: selflessness...
Revolutionary China: The Rise Of The Communist Party...
www.columbia.edu/itc/eacp/webcourse/chinaworkbook/Lesson_Plan/RevCh_Rise_Communist.htm
1939: In Memory of Norman Bethune
text of the Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung ... Comrade Norman Bethune,[1] a
member of the Communist ... Leninism teaches that the world revolution can only
succeed if ... www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1939/12.htm
(Excerpts)
In Memory of Norman Bethune
by MAO TSE-TUNG December, 1939
Comrade Norman Bethune, a member of the Communist Party of Canada, was around
fifty when he was sent by the Communist Parties of Canada and the United States
to China... He arrived in Yenan in the spring of last year, went to work in the
Wutai Mountains, and to our great sorrow died a martyr at his post. What kind of
spirit is this that makes a foreigner selflessly adopt the cause of the Chinese
people's liberation as his own? It is the spirit of internationalism, the spirit
of communism, from which every Chinese Communist must learn. Leninism teaches
that the world revolution can only succeed if the proletariat of the capitalist
countries supports the struggle for liberation of the colonial and semi-colonial
peoples and if the proletariat of the colonies and semi-colonies supports the
proletariat of the capitalist countries. Comrade Bethune put his Leninist line
into practice. We Chinese Communists must also follow this line in our practice.
We must unite with the proletariat of all the capitalist countries, with the
proletariat of Japan, Britain, the United States, Germany, Italy and all other
capitalist countries, for this is the only way to overthrow imperialism... <END>
NEED I SAY MORE? Norman Bethune was a Comrade of MAO TSE-TUNG himself and the
Bethune Institute is nothing more than a communist front for revolution and
subversion!
There is an old proverb which states: "If it walks like a duck, quacks like
a duck, and looks like a duck-- then its a duck."
>>Keep in mind that my politics are pretty conservative, as I'm sure Paul
>>would be happy to tell you.
>
Conservative liberal but still way left of a Moderate Republican Conservative.
>Yes. I suppose that is true. Orac is certainly a conservative, though I
>imagine his politics are more old line conservative then modern. There
>aren't too many conservatives today as active opposing fascist propaganda
>as Orac is. (Like perhaps 2?)
Anyone who is a Christian and/or a Republican Conservative is a fascist to
you.
You are a hypocrite and an evil one too.
---
"If communism and fascism both lead to the same end, ie. totalitarianism, Why is
it that anyone who challenges and exposes international fascism is "good", and
anyone who challenges and exposes international communism is "bad"?"
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/comweb.htm
"...Beware of any organization that champions equality but only denounces
fascism. Communism has enslaved far more people than fascism. Any organization
that condemns fascist atrocities while denying or ignoring communist atrocities
is most certainly a communist organization. Remember also that "equality" to a
communist means the equality of slavery."
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/first.htm
Ken McVay
Black Knight
I'm a Conservative and Communists don't frighten me, either.Their
system of economics always fails eventually. The events in China and
Eastern Europe are proof of that. Most people have the sense to see
the writing on the wall.
The real danger during the Cold War was not Communist ideology-it was
Soviet expansionism, sabotage and police state tactics.
Bruno
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
>
You have a real love affair for Comrade Paul Kneisel and it is no wonder
seeing how you have an established record of having a dislike for
anti-communists as documented here. It only figures you comrades should
stick together and engage in smear against anyone who exposes you for what
you are.
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL
[...]
B. THE COMPLAINTS
[...]
<END>
come to mind? As another web page says of those who are against fascism but not
against communism:
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/first.htm
"...Beware of any organization that champions equality but only denounces
fascism. Communism has enslaved far more people than fascism. Any organization
that condemns fascist atrocities while denying or ignoring communist atrocities
is most certainly a communist organization. Remember also that "equality" to a
communist means the equality of slavery."
AND
"If communism and fascism both lead to the same end, ie. totalitarianism, Why
is it that anyone who challenges and exposes international fascism is "good", and anyone who challenges and exposes international communism is "bad"?"
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/comweb.htm
Moving on:
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_8.html
"In addition, the B'nai Brith League for Human Rights, in its report...
In descending order of frequency, the provinces of Ontario, Quebec, and British
Columbia have experienced the overwhelming majority of right-wing incidents
(96.9 percent).... Most acts of right-wing violence were acts committed by...
anti-communist nationalists."
http://www.track0.com/cc/articles/022802racism.html
The New Generation of Organised Racialism in Canada
"..the radical-right organizations were.. anti-communist, anti-immigration,
anti-foreign aid, anti-world government, anti-egalitarian, anti-homosexual,
anti-feminist, and anti-abortion... Most of the fringe-right organizations were
also anti-communist..."
Now you're compared to racists if you have anti-communist sentiments. I guess
all the people who escaped from communist countries are racists and
hate-mongers for being anti-communist. I have never read a report about anyone escaping a "communist worker's utopia" not ever being anti-communist!
http://timelines.ws/20thcent/1953.HTML
"1953 Nov 23, While receiving an award for his contributions to civil rights
from the B'Nai Brith's Anti-Defamation League, President Dwight Eisenhower
spontaneously denounced the tactics of fellow Republican Joseph McCarthy,
asserting the right of everyone to meet his "accuser face to face." A vehement
anti-Communist, Senator McCarthy led a long series of secret and public
hearings on the role of Communism in the American government and society, frequently making unsubstantiated charges against individual citizens. (HNQ, 6/18/98)"
Where is a Joe McCarthy now that we need him and BTW Joe McCarthy was right
about Hollywood being a communist haven.
http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
American Jewish Committee
Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern
Kenneth S. Stern is the American Jewish Committee?s specialist on antisemitism
and extremism.
Introduction
For ten or twenty dollars a month, you can have a potential audience of tens of
millions of people. There was a time when these folks were stuck
surreptitiously putting fliers under your windshield wiper. Now they are taking the same material and putting it on the Internet." Ken McVay... [x] Many militia rumors of secret attack plans by disloyal or foreign elements
were actually recycled John Bircher anti-Communist phobias of the 1960s,
given new life in large part due to the Internet.
<END>
Anti-communism is a phobia? The world is in a lot more peril from communists
than from any people the Nizkor crowd fears in their anti-Nazi phobias.
http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000300.php
"The era of McCarthyism stained the 1950?s as an anti-communist witch-hunt that
led to a Senate investigation...It was the result of the Cold War which at that
time, to the Anti-Defamation League, ADL, anyone who was anti-communist was
anti-Semitic."
Here is ADL apparently suggesting Jews fared better under communism!!
Is this why ADL stated anti-communism was anti-semitic?
http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASInt_13/2966_13.asp
Press Release Anti-Semitism-International
"...The collapse of communism has brought rapid, often radical change
throughout Central and Eastern Europe and poses a growing threat to the
security of the reemerging Jewish communities in the region," said Abraham H.
Foxman, ADL National Director." <END> What is Abe Foxman suggesting? Is he
suggesting communism was a guardian of Jews?
Here is B'nai Brith making a shocking revelation:
www.bnaibrith.org/randa/unesco3.html
(Link was active December 2001. Now expired)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lillithsrealm/myhomepage/Humanity/HumanRights/Genocide/CounteringAntisemitism.htm
(Link active 12-11-2002 and the "unesco.html" web page was cached at this
site.)
Excerpt: "MEASURES AND INITIATIVES TAKEN TO COMBAT ANTISEMITISM, 1991 - '94
Introduction. Antisemitism - World Trends, 1991 - '94
The period of 1991-'94 was marked by a rise in expressions of antisemitism,
resulting mainly from the collapse of the communist block in Europe and the
reunification of Germany."
The original link above came from a GOOGLE search as detailed in this link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=tbdc1u0ikubfkl0qp77dn140tqhoim43h6%404ax.com&rnum=1
Message-ID: <tbdc1u0ikubfkl0qp...@4ax.com>
I won't say ALL Jews are communists NOR will I speculate on the percentage of
how many are and how many are not BUT here is what I found the Lubavitcher
Hasidic Jewish sect saying a while back:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=8qn0p8%24f66%241%40slb6.atl.mindspring.net&rnum=1
Subject: Communism Preferred to Christianity By Mainline Jewish Organization
(In Their Own Words) Revised 2
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:03:45 GMT
Message-ID: <8qn0p8$f66$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>
All of the following came from using the search engine at:
http://www.mnemotrix.com/chabad/
The above "search" link is part of the Chabad Lubavitch Web Site:
http://www.chabad.org/calendar/
(Links active April 12, 2000)
[...]
From the same Jewish website and using the same search engine but
using key words CHRISTIAN IDOLATRY we get an apologia for communism
and attack on Christianity among other things:
part.04
And yet, they failed! Of the hundreds of millions `devotees' to all these
faiths and causes, only a tiny fraction are truly faithful to them. The
overwhelming majority are self-deluding hypocrites: they take from... (5K)
<http://www.chabad.org/gopher/ideal/skeptic/part.04.htm>
Excerpt: " Believer: Secondly, they did succeed---to the extent that they
do concur with the essence of man and of creation. Communism, despite its
flaws and corruptions, has had a profound effect on our sense of social
justice. Christianity, despite the horrendous atrocities it perpetrated
and justified, played a major role in introducing, to a largely pagan
world, the concepts (though much adulterated) of a one, omnipotent and
non- corporeal G-d and of a messianic end-goal to existence." <END>
All of the above should indicate Ken McVay and his funding agent B'nai
Brith are pro-communist. Your League of Human Rights is phoney. Seeing how
communism denies basic human rights and seeing how you sympathize with
communists and their communist ideology just consider this as another one
of your lying hypocrisies exposed. You are not really a championeer of
human rights.
Black Knight
> Bradbury: http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bradbury-scott/
My name is Joe Fleece. I am an attorney. I have been retained by Mr
Kneisel to take legal action against you for all these outrageous
accusations you have been posting about him lately. The causes of
action will be as follows:
Libel
Slander
Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
Defamation of Character
Inciting to Riot
Arson
Forgery
Grand Theft Auto
Cruelty to small animals
Patrick Humphrey
<RemoveHyphens2M...@ix.net-co-m.com> wrote:
[around 500 lines of bawling deleted]
--PLH, keeping it simple for the simpletons
Tavish
Personal attack does not make the truth your pals are communists and communist
sympathizers! You can't stand nor deal with documented proofs. Personal attacks
such as you make take no effort at all!
My "Maxim Concerning Debate"- Originally written in a letter to Liberal
Radio Talk Show Host Jim Hightower:
"I am tired of seeing people get attacked for speaking
the truth and the hecklers not being able to prove their point
other than scorn or ridicule.
Liberals can't refute the truth so all liberals instead
attempt to make the truth bearer into a buffoon hoping to draw the
public's attention away from the message!
I will tell you a secret and I hope that you learn from it!
This is my original- "If I hear something being debated pertaining
to a subject that I am not cognizant of, therefore impartial, I
examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is telling
the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar always
attacks the opposing person and the truth teller always attacks the
opposing premise!"
-Subject: Tavish Maxim Concerning Debate.
-Date: 1997/12/09
-Message-ID: <348ccbc4....@news.smart1.net>
The Socialists/Marxists/Leftists/Liberals or whatever name they choose
to exist under are the primary users of smear and innuendo thus they
typically resort to personal attacks instead of dealing in FACT.
Black Knight
On gloopee. Da?
Bruno
Black Knight
What you call "fact" is very often cooked up by your imagination with
little basis in reality. If you acted in such a way as to earn
respect, you would hear very few insults.
Bruno
Tavish
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>What you call "fact" is very often cooked up by your imagination with
>little basis in reality. If you acted in such a way as to earn
>respect, you would hear very few insults.
Try to deny the facts in the following archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s71b2vk0o1r8r7dnk8n3ijlldct647par9%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR Director Ken McVay in Bed With Communists and His Animosity
Against Anti-Communists Documented ...
Message-ID: <s71b2vk0o1r8r7dnk...@4ax.com>
Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:57:20 GMT
(Very brief excerpt)
The League of Human Rights of B'nai Brith (Ken McVay's Nizkor sponsor) got a
court ruling which declares this about anti-communism:
http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/decisions/docs/league-e.htm
T.D. 15/92 Decision rendered December 16, 1992
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6 (as amended)
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL
[...]
B. THE COMPLAINTS
These complaints are brought by ... The League for Human Rights B'Nai Brith
Canada ... (1) Themes Which Promote Hatred: ...
(g) Anti-Communist Ideology .... <END>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e2357ab_3%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Communist Paul Kneisel Advocates a Revolution Against Capital and State
Message-ID: <3e235...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 14 Jan 2003 00:20:02 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e235877_3%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Did Ken McVay pay tax on those $50,000+ donations he denies receiving?
Message-ID: <3e235...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 14 Jan 2003 00:23:26 GMT
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Patrick Humphrey
<RemoveHyphens2M...@ix.net-co-m.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:30:59 -0600, <slrnb2aao9....@fnord.io.com>
> Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:15:11 -0600, Tavish
>><RemoveHyphens2M...@ix.net-co-m.com> wrote:
>>[around 500 lines of bawling deleted]
>>
>>--PLH, keeping it simple for the simpletons
> Personal attack does not make the truth your pals are communists and
> communist sympathizers! You can't stand nor deal with documented
> proofs. Personal attacks such as you make take no effort at all!
You're an idiot and a babbling loon, Bradbury. Your "proof" is more than
likely 108, and has no onther connection with anything in reality. (You also
have no idea of who my friends are, and apparently have remained oblivious to
the fact that you have no credible proof of ANY of your assertions...and keep
in mind those facts that are permanently embedded in the public court record
in Lehigh County, Pennsylvania.)
--PLH, life is good, when you aren't Bradbury
Patrick Humphrey
> On gloopee. Da?
Sovershenno verno!
--PLH, I agree 100% with this poast ;-)