Conspiracy? Criminal Enterprise? Unholy Evil Trinity? Most Likely! Shiff, McVay, and THT.NET and What They Have in Common
NIZKOR WATCH
Why Would THT.NET Be Contacting Ken McVay? THT.NET, Laurence
Shiff, NIZKOR- AN EVIL TRINITY? YES!
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:15:28 -0500
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From: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
Subject: Why Would THT.NET Be Contacting Ken McVay? THT.NET, Laurence
Shiff, NIZKOR- AN EVIL TRINITY? YES!
Matt,
What does Ken McVay have to do with what Shiff is doing? Did you
notice that THT.NET added his e-mail address to their reply to me? Notice
also they do not deny Shiff doing it? Something mighty fishy is going on
don't you think? This is definite proof there is a conspiracy now! I
really like THT.NET's reply too: "I think we got him *this* time ...
please feel free to report any other trangressions.." Hell, Shiff is
probably sitting right by Scrappy and McVay and they are probably laughing
their asses off!
Scott
Look!
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:53:21 -0400
From: Matt Giwer <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>
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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED
by Criminalfrom THT.NET]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED by
Criminal from THT.NET
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:33:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
CC: <postm...@news.ntu.edu.tw>, <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>,
<ab...@rr.com>, <da...@vex.net>, <kmc...@nizkor.org>, <ad...@THT.NET>
I think we got him *this* time ... please feel free to report any other
trangressions, including any line to the effect of:
> X-Trace: news.tht.net 986430216 32344 216.126.78.61
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Scott Bradbury wrote:
> To whom it may concern,
> Your news server has been "hacked" and is being used criminally by a user
> in Toronto, Ontario Canada to wage cancel attacks against his opposition.
> This should be of great interest to you because his cancelbot is consuming
> your resources. This person is Laurence B. Shiff and he is affiliated with
> THT.NET based in Toronto, Ontario Canada. I will provide proof below. As
> for now a rough count esgtimate appears that he has issued over a thousand
> cancels and they are still being shown in the news group called
> control.cancel.
> Shiff is now in the process of waging a cyber attack on Matt Giwer of
> Tampa, Florida USA.
> At this time 1780 cancels have been issued against Matt Giwer using your
> server starting 04/06/2001 5:03 PM CENTRAL STANDARD DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME
> and my last update shows the assault continuing to: 7:22 PM CSDST or
> 01:22:00 GMT
>
> Thank you,
> Scott Bradbury
<end>
I ask again what does Ken McVay have to do with Laurence Shiff's aka
NAZIHUNTER'S CYBER ATTACK against Giwer and myself!?
Consider their common agenda, common ISP, and the fact Shiff has been a
large donor to Ken McVay's NIZKOR as proven here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Tavish=&rnum=2&seld=936235184&ic=1
"Supplement - Everyone Look at Nazihunter's Headers!.."
Subject: Re: Let's play "find the nazihunter"
Date: 12/20/1999
Author: Kenneth McVay OBC <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org>
[...]
John Morris did say:
>But back to the question: why did I ask you if there was no public
>connection between you and Marduk?
You asked me because you knew that Marduk had been a donor at one point,
and you wanted me to tell you who he was - i.e. violate a confidence.
>Well, when Matt Giwer was being mailbombed, I decided to see if I
>could help him catch the culprit. And given Marduk's already
>well-established history, I suggested publicly that Marduk could not
>be ruled out as the mailbomber. That brought this response by
>private e-mail:
>
><quote>
> Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca
> [129.128.5.214]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.2) with
> SMTP id UAA42628 for <jmo...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>; Sat, 28 Dec
> 1996 20:04:12 -0700
> Received: from tor-srs1.netcom.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with SMTP
> (8.6.5/UA) id UAA25114
> for <John....@UAlberta.CA>; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:04:50 -0700
> Received: from laurie by tor-srs1.netcom.ca (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom)
> id WAA27136; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:03:32 -0500 (EST)
> X-UIDL: 851841834.000
> Message-Id: <1996122903...@tor-srs1.netcom.ca>
> To: John....@UAlberta.CA
> Subject: Re: GIWER'S ANONYMOUS-EMAIL ATTEMPT AT SELF-LIBEL
> From: mar...@netcom.ca (Marduk)
> Organization: Babylonians 'R Us
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 22:03:07 PST
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> In-Reply-To: <32c693f6...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
> References: <5a3opk$i...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
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>
> In article <32c693f6...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>, you say...
>
> >I would not rule out the possibility that Marduk was the source
> >of the e-mail, and there is a least one other individual who might
> >have had a hand in it. If I receive enough e-mail copies, I will
> >ask for the cooperation of at least three ISPs.
> >
> >--
> >John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> >--
> >The Nizkor Project | http://www.nizkor.org/
>
> that is hardly fair nor accurate. at the very least. you could
> e-mail me first, before making such an accustaion.
> I would suggest that you query Ken McVay regarding my substantial
> financial support of Nizkor's good works as proof that we are on
> the same side.
></quote>
<<Doc Tavish comment April 6, 2001: See the tie between Nizkor and
NAZIHUNTER? Notice where the e-mail came from? Ken MCVay and Shiff are
"asshole buddies" plain and simple!>>
>Well, I kind of shrugged it off way back then at the end of 1996. I
>kind of just shook my head and asked myself, "Who is this asshole who
>posts people's addresses and telephone numbers and makes harassing
>phone calls and thinks he's a 'good guy' because he gives Ken McVay
>twenty bucks?"
>
>But I remembered the e-mail, and that's why I asked you if you could
>help me track down the bastard who'd been posting people's addresses
>and telephone numbers. You refused.
No, I didn't refuse. I said that if your evidence proved that the two
posters were the same, I would consider revealing his identity. You sent
me your "proof," and I was unconvinced, and told you so - primarily
because of the incorrect academic information (he is not an academic,
period, as I told you at the time) you attributed to your man.
[...]
[charges of self-interest due to source of funding]
>Do I smell self-interest here? You bet I do.
You also think marduk is an academic - he isn't.
You also think I hate Mr. Edeiken - I don't.
You also think I accused Mr. McFee of being Nazihunter - I didn't.
>You've gone out of your way to cover your ass from the get-go. You
>released information that you didn't have to release describing Yale
>Edeiken as the source of the address information. You've pretended
Since Mr. Edeiken was the source, that makes perfect sense.
>You've lied about how long the file was available. You've tried to
>cover up the fact that a major donor to your website has a history of
>harassing people not only in Usenet, but in the real world. You've
>denied that your major donor can be connected to the name and
>practices of Nazihunter.
I not only did not "cover up" Marduk's harassment in UseNet, I chastised
him for it. That isn't the issue - the issue is that your evidence does
not prove both userid's are the same person - in fact, with respect to the
academic side, your evidence seems to prove that both are _not_ the same
man.
>But is this all just to cover your ass and protect a major donor? Is
>even just an exercise in fucking over Yale Edeiken? Or is there a
>bigger game afoot?
Marduk is not a donor, and has not been for about a year, if memory
serves. I am protecting his identity because I have yet to see
evidence of his guilt. If and when I do, I will release the
information to the police.
--
The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Tavish=&rnum=1&seld=936250442&ic=1
"Everyone Look at Nazihunter's Headers! Very Revealing!.."
~~~End of Proof Which Links McVay to Shiff~~~
(Also something to think about. Shiff laid on his relentless attacks of
canceling my posts at the same time I started posting about Nizkor and its
tax status! Seeing how a link has been established between the two I can
say there is a "criminal enterprise" a foot. McVay did afterall post my
address etc.)
MOVING ON!
Here is a classic death threat Laurence Shiff posted through THT.NET
news.flash.net!nntp.flash.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!
nntp1.njy.teleglobe.net!teleglobe.net!hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
From: mar...@idirect.com (NAZIHUNTER)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: HERE'S A THOUGHT: MEET SCOTTY ON FEB. 7
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:32:47 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Assyrians "R" Us
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ASSUMING THAT THW SHIT-ASSED NARCOLEPTIC OBESE DWARF KNOWS HOW TO NAVIGATE
BEYOND THE 25 FT RANGE OF HIS MOTHER'S LEASH, ONE HOPES THAT HE CAN ATTEND
HIS DAMAGES HEARING ON FEB 7 IN ALLENTOWN. THATS THE DAY SCOTTY LOSES HIS
RENTED STY.
SO LETS ALL MEET HIM...WITH BASEBALL BATS...
I'LL BE THERE, LETS SEE IF YOU CAN PICK ME OUT OF THE CROWD
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DO NOT FORGET WHO FUNDS NIZKOR- B'NAI BRITH!
Need I say more? Do we see self interest? Do we see conspiracy?
Doc Tavish
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