Is Sara "The Whipped" Salzman Still Being Whipped by Her Husband's Electric Whipping Machine?
Ward Cleaver
Salzman's revisionism which is deny she posted certain posts which she now
implies were forged.
---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so much
about them!?
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<start/quote>
> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>
> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
<end/quote>
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-From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
-Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:20:58 -0700
-Message-ID: <catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: SaraNdenial and SaraNdenial2)
Here is Sara's husband aka Cougar inventing an electric whipping machine and
notice the detail he gets into!
(Archived locally as: fanWHIPPER)
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=01bcb955%24e8324aa0%2440a...@crc3.concentric.net&lr=&hl=en
(Original Format was archived locally as: fanWHIPPER2)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bcb955%24e8324aa0%2440a89bcf%40crc3.concentric.net&output=gplain
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Auto Bondage
Date: 1997/09/04
Message-ID: <01bcb955$e8324aa0$40a8...@crc3.concentric.net>
References: <340D79B7...@hotmail.com>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.torture
There is a method of having yourself whipped, with a little work.
First, obtain a large household type fan, you may already own one.
Second, a timing device capable of being set to relatively short periods of
time, usually sold to turn lamps on and off in hardware stores. You will
need to have access to a drill, as well.
Open the fan up, taking the guard pieces off. Drill a hole about 1" in
from the tip of each fan blade. Next, take leather strips (boot laces from
any store will work for this) and knot one end through the hole in the fan
blade, leaving about 2 feet of the leather hanging off the end of the
blade.
Set the fan into a position to swing the leather strips so they will
fly parrallel to the floor. Set up the timing device to activate in a few
minutes, then stand within range of the leather strips on the fan
blade.When the power cuts on, the blades will begin to turn, the leather to
fly and you will be whipped by each strip as it passes. Start with the
fan's lowest power, but if that is too mild, set it higher.
Now, you might move away from the fan, so you might also practice some
self bondage to keep you in position, such as bent over a chair with your
ass sticking out where the fan's strips will strike your ass.
It isn't the cane, but that is best weilded by an experienced hand.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Here are pictures of Sara Salzman:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
She looks like she's been under her husband's electric fan torture
device once too often! :-)
Here is proof the above was made by Sara Salzman's husband:
This archived header proves Sara Salzman aka Sara Schwartz
aka Sara aka Perrrfect is the wife of Cou...@cris.com:
(Archived locally as: CompuserveSARA)
(Original Format was archived locally as: CompuserveSARA2)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=schwartz-0201960750240001%40cmh-p077.infinet.com
From: schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Subject: Re: Compuserve
Date: 1996/01/02
Message-ID: <schwartz-020...@cmh-p077.infinet.com>
organization: Cat's Lair
reply-to: Cou...@cris.com
newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage
schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:
>What a bunch of chickenshits at Compuserve for denying access to
>"pornographic" groups because the German government is whining about
>it.
>
>Funny... I don't see the German government getting upset about the
>Nazi groups online.
>
>Compuserve caved. I'm GLAD I get my addess through a provider that
>doesn't play those games.
>
Yes, Compuslop has once again decided they'd rather kow-tow to the
few, rather than stand on any principles. To call them chickenshits is
a bit unfair, however. To chickenshit.
[...]
I have heard that some folks posting on this topic have gotten flamed
for "supporting pedophiles". I don't know which trailer park such
flamers live in or I'd be asking the powers that be for a tornado
about now.
<<Doc Tavish comment: Notice that Sara's husband also minimalizes
child porn just like NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay does!! It only
figures this "Wild Bunch" would be allies!!>
Cougar
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Now we have 100% proof that cou...@cris.com is Sara's husband. Notice
that the post was made under this account:
From: schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Subject: Re: Compuserve
Date: 1996/01/02
Message-ID: <schwartz-020...@cmh-p077.infinet.com>
organization: Cat's Lair
BUT notice it was signed by Cougar and the headers show this:
organization: Cat's Lair
reply-to: Cou...@cris.com
Now I revisit this post made by Sara's husband:
(Archived locally as: ReneeISdomme)
(Original Format was archived locally as: ReneeISdomme2)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d820%24564153ce%40default
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
Date: 1997/04/04
Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
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Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
rain...@praxis.net wrote in article
<334719e5...@news.praxis.net>...
> "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com> wrote and I had to answer:
> >I'll stand and deliver, for the moment. I am one who did at least
> >_attempt_ to do the other side of the whip in a serious mode. Once. The
> >experiment (for that was what it was) was worse than a failure, as it cost me a
> >friendship.
:
> This one is very sad to hear that it cost you a friend....soemtimes we
> have to separate our friends from our sexuallity...not hide it from
> them, but not engage friends within it unless the friendship has grown
> out of it. Boy did this one make a bastard of that statement. Sadly
> too often when we go to bed with our friends and it does not work out,
> we lose both lover and friend for the relationship can never be the
> same...there that made more sense.
I believe you misunderstand. She was already in the scene. The event
that cost the friendship was the fact that she realized, as did I, who was
really "on top" during the session. She had asked for a massage, which
I delivered. She then asked what was different about what I had done and
a sensual massage. Being from Missouri, I showed her. At the end of that
massage I was clearly in charge and she had orgasmed.
She considered herself domme only.
> <minor snip for space>
> >Under no circumstances would I be able to replicate the experience of
> >being a female masochist in mentality. I wasn't raised female.
:
> Nope and for the most part even those who are...if they are not
> masochistic can not understand for the life of them WHY anyone would
> want to be.
An excellent example of your words are the Anne Rice Beauty stories.
How one can write a few hot scenes but not get the emotions behind them, I
don't know. You gotta be in the head and heart to make it hot in
reality.
> other than to keep the household budget and cook. Now a days there is
> more and more pointed towards young females and the slaves and subs of
> tomorrow may well give the Doms a hell of a run for the money.
>
As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is NOT
meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!) I think they'll give the
subs of tomorrow hell, too.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Yep I guess ol' Cougar was "just kidding" but then again who really knows.
For a fact Sara Salzman was schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) and it is
proven here:
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: F. E. Campbell dead
Date: 9 Feb 1995 11:59:22 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <sschwartz-060...@p01.infinet.com>
<47.266...@hedonism.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com
In article <47.266...@hedonism.com>, bill....@hedonism.com (Bill
Majors) wrote:
> Ummm...well here I go betraying my ignorance. What has Geoffrey Merrick
> written. I tend to remember stories, not authors. In fact had I not met
> Frank I would not have realized who he was except that his name was as
> prominant as the title of the books.
>
I don't know much about him, except that he published a series of hardcore
bondage books called the Tyler Series. They were wonderful! I'll try and
dig up the publisher and get back to you.
Perrrfect
--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend
<END>
Same e-mail address plus here Sara Salzman is confessing a very vital fact:
(Archived locally as: Re_Double Standard)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-5FB93B.10103425042002%40news.concentric.net&rnum=1
(Original Format was archived locally as: Re_Double Standard2)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Double Standard?
Date: 25 Apr 2002 16:10:36 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <catamont-5FB93B...@news.concentric.net>
In article <ORDx8.430$6y.3...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>, "Voice of
Reason" <voiceo...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
> Sara used to post as Purrrfect One...
Liar. Never used that name. You've got me confused with someone else,
Father of Lies.
[...]
> or Sara Salzman
Yep. That's my name. I've been using it all my life, except for the time
I was married to my first husband. At that time, I used the name
> or Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
the "aka Perrrfect" part, if it's any of your business..
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
The above proves that Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> posted
as Sara aka Perrrfect.
Sara Salzman also confessed being Sara Schwartz as shown here:
(Archived locally as: Sara Schwartz_Salzman)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-2504982055590001%40ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=1
(Original Format was archived locally as: Sara Schwartz_Salzman2)
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Re: Sara Schwartz/Salzman's _Je T'Accuse!_ (was: Jewish Ritual Murder)
Date: 1998/04/25
Message-ID: <catamont-250...@ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net>#1/1
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Mr. Sabatini:
First of all, I'm curious why you felt it necessray to re-name the subject
of this thread. Yes, I used to be Sara Schwartz, when I was married. I
divorced Mr. Schwartz and returned to the use of my maiden name. (Sorry
Gord, I *did* remarry tho... :)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Thus the above roves Sara Salzman's children have been exposed to S&M torture
and Sara's second husband is an S&M Torture freak just like Sara's first husband
who was also the father of her two children. Notice Sara's second husband aka
Cougar stated: "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
Looks like Sara is addicted to the S&M lifestyle and is trying to distance
herself from it by NUKING her posts and denying they were ever made BUT she is
proven to be a lying pig to her continual dismay!
Also see her denial exposed in this archive and see how see fulfills Ken McVay's
treatise on liars:
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
Here is Sara proving she is a revisionist concerning her S&M Torture bondage:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=68b5uv0v7d3g0mt8h...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: MR. BRADBURY, STAYING STUPID
Reply-To: beaver_cleaver@mayfield01net
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In the above archive Sara "The Fist" Salzman made these claims (which are
false):
<start/quote>
> From: Sara "The Fist" Salzman <LIE, BRADBURY CHANGED THE "from">
> Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
> Subject: Fist Fucking
<NOTE THAT BRADBURY HAS DELETED THE DATE... QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO.
"Personal attack is all your kind has.">
<<Tavish comment December 19, 2003: As if the lack of a date is proof you didn't
make the post!?>>
> By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
> Says so right on the label.
> We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
> Your mileage may, of course, vary.
> Perrrfect
> --
> It never rains under my umbrella
> ~~End~~
And you have a problem with this why?
<<Tavish comment December 19, 2003: Look at the subject title you fister to see
why you are comparing "Elbow Grease" to "KY" and let it be noticed by all you
did not deny posting the article!!>>
> From: Sara "The Fist" Salzman <LIE, BRADBURY CHANGED THE "from">
> Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
> Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
<NOTE THAT BRADBURY HAS DELETED THE DATE... QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO.
"Personal attack is all your kind has.">
<<Tavish comment December 19, 2003: As if the lack of a date is proof you didn't
make the post!?>>
> In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
> Antoniou) wrote:
> > Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> > of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> > all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> > suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> > on to say *exactly that*.
>
> In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
> just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
> I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
> fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
> impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
> Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
> and "fisting" herself!
<SINCE BRADBURY HAS POSTED THIS STATEMENT HUNDREDS OF TIMES, PERHAPS
IT'S TIME TO POINT OUT THAT HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT THE "DUCK"
POSITION IS, AND HIS MORONIC STATEMENT ABOVE PROVES IT. IT IS NOT
SOMETHING A PERSON "ASSUMES," IN FACT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A
"PERSON."
MR. BRADBURY INSISTS ON THIS FANTASY OF "FISTING HERSELF" BECAUSE HE
CANNOT IMAGINE THAT ANYONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE HAS A PARTNER. 'FISTING
YOUSELF' IS AS IMPOSSIBLE AS MR. BRADBURY SAYING ANYTHING THAT REEKS OF
A HINT OF SANITY. IT'S ALL HIS PERVERTED FANTASIES ... AGAIN.
I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST HERE. WHAT TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DO IN THE
PRIVACY OF THEIR BEDROOM THAT ISN'T ILLEGAL..
<end/quote>
Sara "The Fist" either lied or sought to divert in these examples:
1) HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT THE "DUCK" POSITION IS,
It has to be like "duck walking" we had to do in physical education in which a
person has their legs pulled up close to their body [which also would make the
crotch handier (in your case) for fisting]!
http://www.google.com/search?q=fisting+%22duck+position%22&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&filter=0
Searched the web for fisting "duck position". Results 1 - 7 of 7.
Sample returns which prove Sara to be a liar!
Anal Cum Queens(by Dale P.Kelley)
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
2) IT IS NOT SOMETHING A PERSON "ASSUMES,"
"Assuming the "duck" position" is proper usage of assume!
3) IN FACT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A "PERSON."
If it doesn't then WHAT should "begin in the "duck" position"? You did state
precisely: "In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck"
position." so I guess you are now stating Laura isn't a person!?
4) 'FISTING YOUSELF' IS AS IMPOSSIBLE
FALSE!! If you can finger your worm ridden vagina then you can also fist it you
pig! And GOOGLE also proves you to be a liar!
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=solo&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=vaginal+fisting+&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for solo "vaginal fisting ". Results 1 - 20 of about 1,870
There are plenty of "solo vagina fisting" returns which YOU can get off to Sara.
BTW I did NOT click any of the return result links but plenty summaries prove
that women can fist themselves without another person being there!
You also indicate you fist yourself by your choice of words: "I *did* state that
fist fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience." I still say it likes like a solo act you
are doing!
Also (repeated from higher up):
http://www.google.com/search?q=fisting+%22duck+position%22&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&filter=0
Searched the web for fisting "duck position". Results 1 - 7 of 7.
Sample returns which prove Sara to be a liar!
Anal Cum Queens(by Dale P.Kelley)
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
5) AS MR. BRADBURY SAYING ANYTHING THAT REEKS OF A HINT OF SANITY.
I have already proven you to be the insane one you pathetic lying bitch!
6) I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST HERE.
You haven't been honest so far you lying pig!
7) WHAT TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DO IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR BEDROOM THAT ISN'T
ILLEGAL..
You wrote in the sense that your fisting was a solo act! Also by your debating
the issue in defense of an activity "THAT ISN'T ILLEGAL" in the first person
pretty well proves you made those fisting posts which you are now trying to deny
you ever made!
Stay stupid you lying pig!
Tavish
"...I'm a bitch and a filthy slut and a typical Jew mother. Oh, yeah, and a
fatbroad. And dumbtwat... I'm a little fool and a lying bitch and a silly
slut..." <--- Sara "The Fist" Salzman being hard on herself and in her own
words! Archived locally as: SaraLyingBitch and SaraLyingBitch2
Message-ID: <schwartz-ya023180...@news.infinet.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She Wrote
The FIST Postings! Date: 17 Dec 2003 19:40:10 GMT
Message-ID: <hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She
Wrote The FIST Postings! Date: 18 Dec 2003 06:13:32 GMT
Message-ID: <ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com>
Despite overwhelming evidence Sara "The Fist" will keep repeating
her lies and remain in denial.
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p01.infinet.com>
Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
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By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
<END>
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
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Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
--Nizkor.Org Director, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
(Archived locally as: pedo_McVay)
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: John_Confirms)
(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
(Archived locally as: ChickenHawk_McVay)
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?
The Nizkor Project aka Ken McVay
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
Does anything else need to be said other than the only way for Ken McVay to view
those pictures of naked children on the NET is for him to have downloaded them!
THAT IS FACT!!
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
> Another post which is on topic and deals with Sara "The Fists" aka "The
> Whipped"
> Salzman's revisionism which is deny she posted certain posts which she now
> implies were forged.
>
> ---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
> exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so much
> about them!?
> -------------
> <start/quote>
> > >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
> >
> > FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts
> > so
> > I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>
[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
GARBAGE DELETED]
--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
the bulk of my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference.
BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Richard G. Phillips
"Ward Cleaver" <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote in message
news:0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com...
> Another post which is on topic and deals with Sara "The Fists" aka "The
Whipped"
> Salzman's revisionism which is deny she posted certain posts which she now
> implies were forged.
>
> ---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
> exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so
much
> about them!?
> -------------
> <start/quote>
> > >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
> >
> > FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR
posts so
> > I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>
> No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
> the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
> <end/quote>
> -----------
> -From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
> -Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
> -Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:20:58 -0700
> -Message-ID: <catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont
========================================
Phillips
Have any of you heard about the time when Sara backed into a fan?
Dis-assed-her. (Haw)
========================================
>
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-88CFE2...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com>,
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Everyone click the link above to see what Sara "The Whipped" triews to run nfrom
like a greased pig!
Excerpt:
Another post which is on topic and deals with Sara "The Fist" aka "The Whipped"
Salzman's revisionism which is deny she posted certain posts which she now
implies were forged.
---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so much
about them!?
-------------
<start/quote>
> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>
> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
<end/quote>
-----------
-From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
-Subject: Re: It's Official---Tavish is THE Antichrist
-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:20:58 -0700
-Message-ID: <catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: SaraNdenial and SaraNdenial2)
[...]
<start/quote>
<end/quote>
> Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
>
>> Another post which is on topic and deals with Sara "The Fists" aka "The
>> Whipped" Salzman's revisionism which is deny she posted certain posts which she now
>> implies were forged.
>>
>> ---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
>> exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so much
>> about them!?
>> -------------
>> <start/quote>
>> > >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>> >
>> > FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts
>> > so I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
>>
>
>[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
>GARBAGE DELETED]
YOU ARE A LYING PIG AND ANYONE CLICKING THE LINK (SHOWN ABOVE) WILL SEE YOU
DODGING THE FACTS!! KEEP LYING PIG- YOU DON'T EVEN DECEIVE YOURSLF!!
Tavish
"...I'm a bitch and a filthy slut and a typical Jew mother. Oh, yeah, and a
fatbroad. And dumbtwat... I'm a little fool and a lying bitch and a silly
slut..." <--- Sara "The Fist" Salzman "confirming" what she is.
Archived locally as: SaraLyingBitch and SaraLyingBitch2
Message-ID: <schwartz-ya023180...@news.infinet.com>
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ward Cleaver
ROTFLMAO!!! Looks like Sara got it on both ends too!
Sara "The Fist" Salzman: Quintessential homeliness in the flesh:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif <Sitting and authoring S&M<
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif <Standing Medusa look<
"...I'm a bitch and a filthy slut and a typical Jew mother. Oh, yeah, and a
fatbroad. And dumbtwat... I'm a little fool and a lying bitch and a silly
slut..." <--- Sara "The Fist" Salzman "confirming" what she is.
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Is Sara "The Whipped" Salzman Still Being Whipped by Her Husband's
Electric Whipping Machine?
Message-ID: <0ap6uv43dm8uefmm3...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Dec 2003 22:00:00 GMT
Tavish
Sara Salzman
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:13:44 -0800, <kOidnRu_Q_T...@mbay.net>
> "Richard
> G. Phillips" <rgp...@mbay.net> wrote:
>
> >
>[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
>GARBAGE DELETED]
Not to mention Mr. Philllllllips idiotic and puerile attempt at humor.
Sara
Wille Pete
Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
Are those gag pictures at some humor web site or are they real? I can't
believe a woman could look so revolting.
You pasted her quite well. She made her mire so let her wallo0w in it.
Job well done Tavish.
McVay belongs behind bars.
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-618E56...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
>GARBAGE DELETED]
Can't deal with reality can you pig?
<start/quote>
<end/quote>
point, we get a glimpse of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimpse of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
2) IT IS NOT SOMETHING A PERSON "ASSUMES,"
"Assuming the "duck" position" is proper usage of assume!
3) IN FACT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A "PERSON."
If it doesn't then WHAT should "begin in the "duck" position"? You did state
precisely: "In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck"
position." so I guess you are now stating Laura isn't a person!?
4) 'FISTING YOUSELF' IS AS IMPOSSIBLE
FALSE!! If you can finger your worm ridden vagina then you can also fist it you
pig! And GOOGLE also proves you to be a liar!
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=solo&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=vaginal+fisting+&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for solo "vaginal fisting ". Results 1 - 20 of about 1,870
There are plenty of "solo vagina fisting" returns which YOU can get off to Sara.
BTW I did NOT click any of the return result links but plenty summaries prove
that women can fist themselves without another person being there!
You also indicate you fist yourself by your choice of words: "I *did* state that
fist fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience." I still say it looks like a solo act you
are doing!
Also (repeated from higher up):
http://www.google.com/search?q=fisting+%22duck+position%22&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&filter=0
Searched the web for fisting "duck position". Results 1 - 7 of 7.
Sample returns which prove Sara to be a liar!
Anal Cum Queens(by Dale P.Kelley)
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimpse of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimpse of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
5) AS MR. BRADBURY SAYING ANYTHING THAT REEKS OF A HINT OF SANITY.
I have already proven you to be the insane one you pathetic lying bitch!
6) I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST HERE.
You haven't been honest so far you lying pig!
7) WHAT TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DO IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR BEDROOM THAT ISN'T
ILLEGAL..
You wrote in the sense that your fisting was a solo act! Also by your debating
the issue in defense of an activity "THAT ISN'T ILLEGAL" in the first person
pretty well proves you made those fisting posts which you are now trying to deny
you ever made!
Stay stupid you lying pig!
Tavish
"...I'm a bitch and a filthy slut and a typical Jew mother. Oh, yeah, and a
fatbroad. And dumbtwat... I'm a little fool and a lying bitch and a silly
slut..." <--- Sara "The Fist" Salzman "confirming" what she is.
Archived locally as: SaraLyingBitch and SaraLyingBitch2
Message-ID: <schwartz-ya023180...@news.infinet.com>
Subject: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She Wrote
The FIST Postings! Date: 17 Dec 2003 19:40:10 GMT
Message-ID: <hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She
Wrote The FIST Postings! Date: 18 Dec 2003 06:13:32 GMT
Message-ID: <ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com>
Despite overwhelming evidence Sara "The Fist" will keep repeating
her lies and remain in denial.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p01.infinet.com>
Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p01.infinet.com
By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
<END>
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:34 -0700,
> <catamont-618E56...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
> >GARBAGE DELETED]
>
> Can't deal with reality can you pig?
>
[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED, AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC
GARBAGE DELETED]
--
Sara Salzman
Wille Pete <willi...@dev.null> wrote:
... glimps of her hand leaving her ***** in the classic duck
^^^^^^^^
position
Sure sounde like a HAND POSITION to me, Moron.
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-D93E94...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> >[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED
>[BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
If those posts were "FORGED, ALTERED" as you have been squealing about (thus
implying I am the one who is being dishonest) why are you now stating:
"BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED" which proves I have
been honest and right all along? You did, in fact, post the "My Master Holds the
Rope Just So (poem)" and the fisting posts as well as some others which you had
NUKED from GOOGLE archives!
Once again for the archives what you have vainly attempted to distance yourself
from:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=98b5uv4hhf4l2vrn7...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Message-ID: <98b5uv4hhf4l2vrn7...@4ax.com>
----AND----
Compare Sara The Fist's denial exposed in this very post and see how see
fulfills Ken McVay's treatise on liars:
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
<start/quote>
<end/quote>
(Search result archived locally as: GOOGLEduckPosition)
Sample returns which prove Sara to be a liar!
Anal Cum Queens(by Dale P.Kelley)
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
2) IT IS NOT SOMETHING A PERSON "ASSUMES,"
"Assuming the "duck" position" is proper usage of assume!
3) IN FACT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A "PERSON."
If it doesn't then WHAT should "begin in the "duck" position"? You did state
precisely: "In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck"
position." so I guess you are now stating Laura isn't a person!?
4) 'FISTING YOUSELF' IS AS IMPOSSIBLE
FALSE!! If you can finger your worm ridden vagina then you can also fist it you
pig! And GOOGLE also proves you to be a liar!
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=solo&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=vaginal+fisting+&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for solo "vaginal fisting ". Results 1 - 20 of about 1,870
(Search result archived locally as: GOOGLEsoloISTING)
There are plenty of "solo vagina fisting" returns which YOU can get off to Sara.
BTW I did NOT click any of the return result links but plenty summaries prove
that women can fist themselves without another person being there!
You also indicate you fist yourself by your choice of words: "I *did* state that
fist fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience." I still say it likes like a solo act you
are doing!
Also (repeated from higher up):
http://www.google.com/search?q=fisting+%22duck+position%22&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&filter=0
Searched the web for fisting "duck position". Results 1 - 7 of 7.
(Search result archived locally as: GOOGLEduckPosition)
Sample returns which prove Sara to be a liar!
Anal Cum Queens(by Dale P.Kelley)
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ...
www.rame.net/reviews/heretic/rev-114.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Adult Sex & AMAZING New Porn Pictures.
... do a little self-fisting also, as her hand is wet to her wrist watch. At one
point, we get a glimps of her hand leaving her pussy in the classic duck
position. ... www.toyboxlinks.com/tour/photos.htm - 25k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
BTW I did NOT visit those links but the GOOGLE summary results are enough to
prove Sara is trying to divert from the fact she fists her own dirty crack! Care
to admit you are a lying filthy pig who fists yourself you pig!?
5) AS MR. BRADBURY SAYING ANYTHING THAT REEKS OF A HINT OF SANITY.
I have already proven you to be the insane one you pathetic lying bitch!
6) I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST HERE.
You haven't been honest so far you lying pig!
7) WHAT TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DO IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR BEDROOM THAT ISN'T
ILLEGAL..
You wrote in the sense that your fisting was a solo act! Also by your debating
the issue in defense of an activity "THAT ISN'T ILLEGAL" in the first person
pretty well proves you made those fisting posts which you are now trying to deny
you ever made!
Stay stupid you lying pig!
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5rhktv483m9oofgqt8goir93o4pm08ht49%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in
Addition to Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism
Message-ID: <5rhktv483m9oofgqt...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Dec 2003 22:57:48 GMT
----NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay's Numerous Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=f7murv0qqpmcfa2ldce7epo9gtg5am23rl%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT
Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! R_1122
Message-ID: <f7murv0qqpmcfa2ld...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT
AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcm...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qa5trvoa3c6ella1o1j7btunqvcbjh9pt2%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
Message-ID: <qa5trvoa3c6ella1o...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Nov 2003 23:56:36 GMT
B'nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2...@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
=============================PLUS====================================
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
Message-ID: <p0afnvchj52pcuh6c...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
Message-ID: <67qc8v8192tumoaiv...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:50:26 -0700,
> <catamont-D93E94...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >> >[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED
>
> >[BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
>
> If those posts were "FORGED, ALTERED" as you have been squealing about (thus
> implying I am the one who is being dishonest) why are you now stating:
> "BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED" which proves I have
> been honest and right all along? You did, in fact, post the "My Master Holds
> the
> Rope Just So (poem)" and the fisting posts as well as some others which you
> had
> NUKED from GOOGLE archives!
>
[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-A047A5...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <n4i9uvke51n9ecnpc...@4ax.com>,
> Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:50:26 -0700,
>> <catamont-D93E94...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED
>>
>> >[BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
>>
>> If those posts were "FORGED, ALTERED" as you have been squealing about (thus
>> implying I am the one who is being dishonest) why are you now stating:
>> "BRADBURY'S CONTINUED OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED" which proves I have
>> been honest and right all along? You did, in fact, post the "My Master Holds
>> the Rope Just So (poem)" and the fisting posts as well as some others which you
>> had NUKED from GOOGLE archives!
>>
>[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
So in one thread you have gone from: "[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED,
EDITED" TO "[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]"? If those posts
were "ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED" what would they have to do
with your sex life you filthy lying pig?
IOW I have been truthful and correct all along!!!
I.E. (Just a brief excerpt)
<start/quote>
<end/quote>
Tavish
"...I'm a bitch and a filthy slut and a typical Jew mother. Oh, yeah, and a
fatbroad. And dumbtwat... I'm a little fool and a lying bitch and a silly
slut..." <--- Sara "The Fist" Salzman "confirming" what she is.
Archived locally as: SaraLyingBitch and SaraLyingBitch2
Message-ID: <schwartz-ya023180...@news.infinet.com>
From: (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A2.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
AFFIDAVIT
I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows:
[...]
15. That Daylin Leach refused to act to halt the campaign of harassment
and stated that if Deponent wished to avoid such harassment, that she
should "stop bothering" Defendant Bradbury...
16. That in response to her complaint and concerns for the safety of
her immediate and extended family, Daylin Leach informed Deponent that she
was a "crackpot"... <END>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She Wrote
The FIST Postings! Date: 17 Dec 2003 19:40:10 GMT
Message-ID: <hpa1uv0m63koaqbo4...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: V2.0b Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Attempt at Revisionism FAILS- She
Wrote The FIST Postings! Date: 18 Dec 2003 06:13:32 GMT
Message-ID: <ige2uvsjk0bfi54at...@4ax.com>
Despite overwhelming evidence Sara "The Fist" will keep repeating
her lies and remain in denial.
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
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By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
<END>
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Sara Salzman aka Sara "The Fist" Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> did post:
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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
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Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
Sara "The Fist" Salzman on Safe Torture
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?
Verdant:
I hate to muddle the semantics further, but... safe? You mean safe that my
Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to the point of death in a scene?
100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.
Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.
But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with. Perrrfect <END>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s70dcvgs3eucqd31n81gqo5e21uj7vvg67%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary
Works and Opinions
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:35:49 -0500
Message-ID: <s70dcvgs3eucqd31n...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
and
[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
That better?
Sara
Susan Cohen
"Cowardly Lying Hypocritical Bigot" <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote in
message news:772cuv83ej5ss90p7...@4ax.com...
>
> >[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]
>
> So in one thread you have gone from: "[ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED,
> EDITED" TO "[BRADBURY'S OBSESSION WITH MY SEX LIFE DELETED]"? If those
posts
> were "ALTERED, FORGED, DOCTORED, CHANGED, EDITED" what would they have to
do
> with your sex life you filthy lying pig?
Wrong, jackass.
When you make up lies about someone's sexlife, it shows an obsession with
someone's sex life.
Just how dumb *are* you bigots??
>
> IOW I have been truthful and correct all along!!!
Only in what passes for your mind.
Susan
Ward Cleaver
"Susan Cohen" <fla...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Lying
--Criminal Yale F. Edeiken's deplorable record:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
^^^^^^^^^
<STOP>
A PDF file is available which gives a report on the above
122 DB 95 against Shyster Yale Fatso Edeiken:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attopinion.php?case=122DB95
^^^^^^^
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/disciplinaryboard/dboardopinions/122DB95.RPT.pdf
(Link active October 28, 2003. Archived locally as: "Edeiken_Gets_His" and
122DB95.RPT)
The Disciplinary Board was content to give Yale F. Edeiken a "private reprimand"
but he continued to act like the psychotic nut case he is and defied them and
refused to appear at his hearing more than once! He was then "forced" to appear
and the "private reprimand" had escalated to "PUBLIC CENSURE" by the highest
court of that bastard's state! Furthermore the Disciplinary Board closed with:
"It is further ORDERED that respondent [Yale F. Edeiken] shall pay costs to the
Disciplinary Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), PaR.D.E." IOW Yale had to pay the
Disciplinary Board to "kick his shyster ass" AFTER the Disciplinary Board of the
Supreme Court of the State of Pennsylvania had to serve numerous notices upon
him and compel him to attend his disciplinary hearing!!
BTW Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and
Yale had received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995! Then the bastard got "PUBLIC
CENSURE" in 1998!!! Looks like Yale F. Edeiken is real shining example of the
legal profession doesn't it? Why that shyster still has his law license is a
mystery to me! His assaulting a Deputy Sheriff should have done him in- in 1990!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3921e1e6.182032557%40news.newsguy.com&rnum=1
From: doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com (Doc Tavish)
Subject: CITY ATTORNEY FOUND GUILTY IN ELEVATOR CONFRONTATION
Date: 2000/05/17
Message-ID: <3921e1e6....@news.newsguy.com>
Yale is also a perjurer who also makes criminal death threats using subpoenaed
information:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=&selm=3bmv4vc9u4kh2qs4v84aek0qsbfhb5eul8%404ax.com
Subject: Test this, David Michael aka Ken McVay's "Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1" Is
Filled With Lies and Perjury...
Message-ID: <3bmv4vc9u4kh2qs4v...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=gsk76vcng7f0cugmimalglbno6bmgmslhk%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!)
Message-ID: <gsk76vcng7f0cugmi...@4ax.com> Tavish
_______________________________________________________________________________
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <ward_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:30:19 GMT, <%bwFb.11335$ci1....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>
> "Susan Cohen" <fla...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Lying
>
> --Yale F. Edeiken
hasn't posted in alt.revisionism in more than two years, yet Br.
Bradbury is still hysterical about him.
Pretty funny.
Sara
[MR. BRADBURY'S LIES DELETED AGAIN]