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Sergey Romanov

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Jan 22, 2005, 5:33:51 PM1/22/05
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Remember the Nizkor quote from Felderer about "anal complex" and stuff?
I want to refer to it in my article but I need to know the exact
source. Does anybody know it?

Gassen

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:14:06 PM1/23/05
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Yeah, it was just another one of Ken McVays homoerotic fantasies.
No doubt you seek it out for your own sexual satisfaction?
Try reading "My master holds the whip just so", it's an AR classic.

Ron Jacobson

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Jan 24, 2005, 2:13:58 AM1/24/05
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In article <1106529246.2...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Ross Cummins "Gassen Burnham <gasenb...@dodo.com.au>" wrote:

(snip)

Cummins also asserts that Germans are liars, and that
they have fabricated the stories about the bombing of their
cities during WW2:

"The salient point, Ronnie, is that we, being well adapted
persons of the world, freely admit these patently outrageous
stories wrt Dresden, were pure wartime propaganda." -- Ross
Cummins, in a post to the alt.revisionism forum, 2004-03-18
06:30:59 PST.

RJ.

Sergey Romanov

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Jan 24, 2005, 6:40:23 AM1/24/05
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No, I want to demonstrate deniers' homoerotic fantasies ;]

Kurt Knoll

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Jan 24, 2005, 10:31:33 AM1/24/05
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DSMRD - Ditlieb Felderer

Did Six Million Really Die?

Ditlieb Felderer

[Ditlieb Felderer was the first witness called by the defence. He
testified on

March 2, 3, 4 and 7, 1988.]

Ditlieb Felderer, 46, first met Zündel in 1979. Both had an interest in
what

Felderer defined as the "extermination theory," the belief that during
the

Second World War, in Poland, millions of people had been exterminated in
gas

chambers. (18-4225)

Felderer's interest in the subject had been aroused during his years as
a

researcher for the Jehovah's Witness publication Awake!, during which
time he

prepared a research paper for the Witnesses' governing body on the
history of

the Jehovah's Witnesses during World War II. Members of the sect were

incarcerated in virtually every camp in Nazi Germany during the war and
also in

such countries as Canada because they refused to bear arms. (18-4225 to
4229)

In the beginning, the Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that 60,000 of their
members were

killed in the Nazi concentration camps. Felderer's research on the
question,

which took him to the headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses in New
York, as

well as to archives in Toronto, Switzerland and Scandinavian countries,

convinced him that the actual number was far lower, and that only about
200

Jehovah's Witnesses were killed. Felderer's research put him on a
collision

course with the sect; the leadership in New York warned members that
they were

not allowed to speak to him. In a subsequent Yearbook published by the
Jehovah's

Witnesses, however, they conceded that only 203 people were killed
during the

war. Felderer had told Zündel about this research. (18-4226 to 4229;
4645)

In 1976, Felderer received an English language edition of the booklet
Did Six

Million Really Die? by Richard Harwood from an anonymous sender.
Felderer, who

was Swedish, could also read Danish, Norwegian, German, French and
English. As a

result of reading the booklet, he decided to delve into the issue and
visit all

of the camps that he possibly could. (18-4230, 4231)

Felderer subsequently published a Swedish language edition of Did Six
Million

Really Die? in 1977. Under Swedish law, he was required to submit the
booklet to

the Attorney General's department, which had a special department where

publications were scanned to determine whether they were lawful. No
complaint or

prosecution was ever brought against Felderer for the booklet. It was
mailed to

all major newspapers in Sweden and schools and was still available in
Sweden

today. (18-4233) In total, he distributed about 10,000 copies in
Swedish.

(19-4620; Dog Verkligen Sex Miljoner? entered as Exhibit 74, 18-4231)

Felderer had never found anything substantially wrong with Did Six
Million

Really Die?. He testified that, to the contrary, it had proven to be
more true

as the years progressed. In 1974, when the booklet was first published,
it was

believed there was a Hitler order. Did Six Million Really Die? was the
first

publication Felderer saw which claimed otherwise. The exterminationists
had now

moved to a position closer to that of the booklet. (19-4601)

After publishing the booklet, Felderer saw a book produced by a Jewish
group in

South Africa which he believed was the only book ever published to
attempt to

refute Did Six Million Really Die?. Felderer pointed out that he had
mailed his

material to historians in Sweden with the request that if they found any
error

in the material, they should let him know. He did not for a moment
believe any

book to be perfect. Each book had its faults and mistakes, but it was
not for

him, as a publisher, to start cutting out views and ideas. It was up to
the

purchaser of the material to find out the truth. (19-4618, 4619)

Asked if he was part of some conspiracy to rehabilitate Nazism and
Hitler,

Felderer stated that Nazism was dead and a past issue, and that it was
pure

fantasy for someone who even nurtured that viewpoint. He felt history
should be

a non political matter where each individual, without threat of having

authorities stopping their research, could research freely and in that
way come

to the truth. (19 4620, 4621)

The first camp Felderer visited was Dachau in West Germany. He discussed
this

visit with Zündel, as he regarded Dachau as an essential element in

understanding exterminationism. He pointed out that in
exterminationalist

literature published between 1947 and the Frankfurt trial in 1964, the
focus for

the gas chamber allegation was Dachau. Later, the focus switched to
Poland.

(18-4234)

At Dachau, Felderer investigated the entire area, looking at the
crematories and

the alleged gas chamber. While claims were once made that over 200,000
people

died at Dachau, the sign at the camp today indicated that no one was
gassed

there; they had been "sent away." Felderer questioned why the "stupid
Germans"

would ship people around in the midst of a war to be executed when they
already

had a place to execute them in Dachau. The Dachau authorities, when
asked about

this, replied that nobody had ever asked them that question before.
(18-4235)

To prepare himself for his visits to the camps in Poland, Felderer
interviewed

people who had been in the camps, asking about smells, locations and
buildings;

he studied books such as those by Raul Hilberg and Gerald Reitlinger.
(18-4236,

4237) Felderer made a special note of the people who wrote
exterminationist

literature and asked the guards at the camps in Poland whether any of
them had

done research there. He had pictures, for instance of Raul Hilberg, in
order to

ask guards if they recognized him and whether he had ever been there.
The guards

replied that they had never seen the man. For Felderer, it confirmed an

essential point, that the exterminationists did not do any real
research.

(18-4238)

He corresponded with such people as German historians Wolfgang
Scheffler, Martin

Broszat and the staffs at Yad Vashem and the Encyclopaedia Judaica, the
Red

Cross, major academics in Poland, and historians in the Soviet Union.
(18-4239,

4240)

In Poland, Felderer visited all of the alleged extermination camps:
Chelmno,

Belzec, Treblinka, Sobibor, Auschwitz, Birkenau, Gross-Rosen, Stutthof,
and

Majdanek. He took photographs of the camps and interviewed people who
lived in

the area. On the whole, he made at least thirty trips to Birkenau and
Auschwitz.

Felderer later showed to Zündel the photographs and tapes of interviews
he had

made with such people as Dr. Szymanski, the Director of Artifacts of
Auschwitz.

(18-4243, 4244, 4451)

Felderer got to be on speaking terms with the administration of the
Auschwitz

Museum. He believed that many doors were opened to him because the
Polish

officials believed his Filipino wife was Vietnamese. They invited him to
see

their libraries, archives and the special buildings where they kept
artifacts

which were not open to the public. (18-4243, 4245)

These people included Dr. Szymanski, Kazimierz Smolen, then Director of
Auschwitz, Piper, Director of Artifacts, and Madame Danuta Czech, the
head historian of Auschwitz. (18-4246,

4247)

The Auschwitz Museum also had an extensive library which included the

revisionist writings of Dr. Arthur Butz, Thies Christophersen and
Felderer

himself. (18-4247)

The Auschwitz officials showed Felderer original material including what
was

alleged to be the handwritten material of former Auschwitz commandant
Rudolf

Hoess. Felderer noted that this writing was in pencil with no errors or

corrections. He asked one of the Auschwitz historians, Mr. Tadeusz
Iwaszko, if

the Museum had the original draft made by Hoess with his corrections.
Iwaszko

checked with the Director of the Museum, who in turn had to check with
Mr.

Pilichowski, the person in charge of the General Commission for
Investigating

Nazi Crimes in Warsaw. Felderer discussed this incident with Zündel; it
showed

the necessity of obtaining original source material, since documents
could

easily be falsified or altered. (18 4247, 4248, 4249)

Felderer later published his book Auschwitz Exit (Exhibit 75), a book
which he

gave to Zündel in 1979 when Zündel and Felderer were planning to go to
Poland

together. (19-4515)

He also made available to Zündel an extensive bibliography

which he prepared on the subject. (19- 4519, Exhibit 76). Felderer and
Zündel

made both video and audio cassettes together on the subject, (18-4251)
including

the video Genocide by Propaganda. (19-4569)

Felderer showed to the jury a series of about 300 slides made in the
Nazi

concentration camps in Poland which he had shown to Zündel. The slides
were

taken using Nikon and Pentax cameras and primarily three types of film.
Infrared

film was also used in order to detect alterations that might have been
made in

buildings. Overall, Felderer took some 30,000 slides of the various
camps he

visited during the years 1978 to 1980. (18-4252 to 4254, 20-4633; slides
entered

as Exhibits 80 to 84, 19-4558).

Aerial photographs of Auschwitz:Aerial photographs taken of Auschwitz by
the Americans during the war were released by the CIA in 1979 in a book
entitled The Holocaust Revisited: A

Retrospective Analysis of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Extermination Complex.
Using

slides of these photographs, Felderer pointed out to the jury the main
buildings

in the camp, including the electrified fence, the alleged gas chamber,
Commandant Hoess's house, the administration buildings, the swimming
pool, the hospital block, the gynecological block (as children were born
at Auschwitz),

the SS hospital, blocks where inmates learned a trade such as sewing and
the two

largest buildings in the camp, the kitchen, and the theatre. (18-4255 to
4259)

Close-up slides of the aerial photographs indicated that the alleged gas
chamber

in Auschwitz I was about 30 metres from the SS hospital building.
(18-4260)

Felderer was told by people in the town of Auschwitz that during the war
people

could obtain special permission to take tours of the camp on special
days.

(18-4323; The Holocaust Revisited entered as Exhibit 85, 19-4605)

Auschwitz I Map:

A map taken from a book by former Auschwitz inmate Maximillian Kobler
was, to

Felderer's knowledge, the only map of the camp to indicate the theatre
as a

theatre, and to label the alleged gas chamber, not as a gas chamber, but
as a

crematory, which, in Felderer's opinion, it actually was. (18-4263)

Auschwitz I Kitchen:

The kitchen in Auschwitz I, one of the largest buildings in the camp,
had twelve

chimneys and included a dietary section, a bakery and a butchery. The
kitchen

also had flush toilets which were unknown to that part of Europe at the
time.

Soviet soldiers who captured the camps thought they were places to wash
their

hands because they had never seen flush toilets before. Felderer told
Zündel

that it didn't make sense that one of the biggest buildings in an
alleged

extermination camp was a kitchen. (18-4267, 4268)

Auschwitz I Theatre and Orchestra:

The theatre in Auschwitz I was used by the inmates to put on plays and
contained

a stage and musical instruments. Felderer decided to investigate the
large

building after an Auschwitz tour guide told him the building was
unimportant and

was only used by the Germans to put garbage into. Museum officials Piper
and

Czech later confirmed to Felderer that the building was used as a
theatre during

the war. Survivor accounts such as Fania Fenelon's Playing for Time also
spoke

of the Auschwitz orchestra. A large blow-up of a photograph of the
orchestra

playing during the war was displayed at the Auschwitz Museum at the main

entrance. Felderer also showed a slide of a Ukrainian choir singing in
what

Felderer believed was the theatre building. The photograph was taken
from the

Dürrfeld file of the United States Archives. Dürrfeld, who had worked at

Monowitz, was later charged with war crimes and entered the photographs
in his

defence.1 (18-4270 to 4273)

Auschwitz I Swimming Pool:

The swimming pool at Auschwitz I was located inside the electrified
fence and

measured 25 metres long, 6 metres wide, and 3 metres deep. Slides
depicted the

two starting blocks, the mount for the springboard and the showers.
Piper told

Felderer that the pool had been used to rehabilitate inmate patients and
as

recreation. There was never any denial by the Auschwitz Museum
administration

that the pool was there during the war and aerial photographs taken by
the

Allies confirmed its existence. Felderer requested Auschwitz officials
to

provide him with the blueprints of the pool but without success. Some
literature

of Holocaust survivors referred to this swimming pool and how it was
used for

water polo. One such survivor who had written about the pool was a
person named

Kreuz. (18-4258, 4275 to 4278; 20-4713)

Inmates were sometimes also allowed to swim in the nearby Sola River.
Felderer

obtained this information from interviews with Jehovah's Witnesses who
had been

interned in the camp and from "survivor" accounts. (18-4264)

Auschwitz Cinema:

At Auschwitz today tourists were shown documentary films taken by the
Soviets at

the liberation of the camp in the same room where inmates had watched
films

during the war. Piper told Felderer that the seats in the cinema were
identical

to those used by the inmates. (19-4413)

Auschwitz I Brothel:

Just inside the main gate of Auschwitz was a building used during the
war as a

brothel for the inmates. It was not a secret that the camp had a
brothel; it was

mentioned in books and its existence was confirmed by the Auschwitz
Museum

officials. Felderer first heard about the brothel during his work for
the

Jehovah's Witnesses. Today, the building housed the museum's archives
and

library. Felderer joked with Piper, whose office was in the building,
about how

it felt to work in a brothel. Piper had blushed and laughed about it.
(18-4266,

4267)

Auschwitz I Crematory and Alleged Gas Chamber:

Felderer was assured by museum officials that nothing had been altered
in

Auschwitz since its capture by the Soviets at the end of the war.
(18-4280,

4281) Tourists on guided tours of the camp were also told that what they
saw was

exactly the way it had been at the time of liberation. (19-4474)
However,

comparisons of photographs of the gas chamber exterior taken after
liberation

and of the gas chamber as it appeared when Felderer was there indicated
that

alterations had been made. Piper explained that since many visitors to
Auschwitz

could not read, alterations were made to help them "understand" the
crimes.

(18-4280, 4281)

The alleged gas chamber was located next to the SS Hospital building and
the

Gestapo buildings. There were two entrances to the alleged gas chamber.

(18-4279) The first door, which had a peephole in it, opened into a
small

vestibule. Anyone looking through the peephole did not see into the
alleged gas

chamber, but saw only a concrete wall approximately one and a half
metres away.

(18-4294, 4299) Felderer testified that the peephole had significance in

exterminationist literature because the Nazis were supposed to have
watched with

great pleasure as the people died. (18-4295)

The doors to the alleged gas chamber were not iron or airtight as was
also

claimed in exterminationist literature. The doors were made of wood with
simple

handles and locks. One door had a pane of thin glass in it. (18-4295,
4296) Both

doors opened inward. Felderer pointed out that the exterminationist
literature

described people rushing to the doors in an attempt to escape death, and
piling

up to the ceiling. He questioned how the Nazis could have opened the
doors after

each gassing when they opened inward - the pile of corpses would have
prevented

it. "It was to me not a very ingenious way of building and making a
door," said

Felderer. (18-4296, 4297)

Felderer asked Auschwitz Museum officials why people about to be gassed
inside

the room never broke the glass in the door to get out. The usual answer
was that

no one had ever asked them those types of questions before. To Felderer,
these

things indicated that the room was not one where millions of people were
gassed.

(18-4296)

Slides of the vents on the roof of the alleged gas chamber, through
which the

Zyklon B was allegedly thrown, showed them to be very shoddily made
wooden

contraptions. (18-4282) Photographs of these four vents from the inside
of the

alleged gas chamber indicated very rough workmanship; the reinforcement
iron

bars in the concrete roof were clearly visible in some slides. Felderer

testified that this shoddiness flew in the face of exterminationist
literature

which insisted that these vents were scientifically devised airtight
openings.

When asked about the vents, Piper later conceded that they were made
around

1947. (18-4290, 4291)

There were no shower heads in the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz
although it

was claimed that the gas in most instances entered through shower heads.

(18-4287) There were drainage openings, however, which seemed to
indicate that

two toilets were once located in the room. (18-4289) Infrared film
showed that

there were once several partitions in the room. (18- 4299, 4300)
Felderer

received blueprints from the Auschwitz officials which showed how the
building

looked at different stages. In the beginning, it had actually been a
crematory

with two furnaces and a morgue. After Birkenau was completed, cremations
were

carried out at the crematories in that camp while the crematory at
Auschwitz I

was converted into a hospital shelter in the case of an air raid.
Partition

walls were put up in the morgue (the alleged gas chamber) to create four
small

rooms, one of which was a surgery room. (19-4354, 4355)

In a room adjoining the alleged gas chamber was the crematory, which
today

contained two furnaces. There was no door in the doorway between the two
rooms.

(18-4288, 4302) Felderer discovered that the huge, free-standing chimney

presently located beside the alleged gas chamber and the crematory was
not

connected by any smoke channel to the crematory. Mr. Szymanski later
told

Felderer that the fake chimney was placed there for symbolic reasons.
(18-4283)

Piper also admitted that the furnaces presently in the crematory were
placed

there in 1947, also for symbolic reasons. Felderer discovered that the
location

of the original furnaces and the real smoke channel was across the room.

(18-4308)

Behind the room containing the furnaces were two rooms, one of which
Felderer

believed had been an autopsy room. Every crematory in Germany had an
autopsy

room and such a room was mentioned in survivor testimony such as that of
Dr.

Nyiszli in his book [Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness Account.] The
officials at

Auschwitz were still not willing, however, to reveal the location of
this room.

(18 4302, 4303)

A slide taken by Felderer of the crematory furnaces showed flowers which
people

placed on the ovens. Felderer told Zündel that the religious aura which

surrounded the whole place was one reason why people did not ask
questions.

Every day tourists would come with bouquets of flowers and candles which
they

placed in the room. Judge Thomas interjected at this point to tell
Felderer that

he really did not need to hear about "the flowers and the religion."
(18-4304)

Felderer showed slides of the "dirty" side of the crematory ovens where
the

ashes were removed, placed in a special parcel and mailed to relatives
if an

address was available. Felderer later saw the tags and the special
parcels in

which the ashes were shipped in a private collection of artifacts kept
at the

Museum. (18-4307)

Museum officials eventually admitted to Felderer that the entire "gas
chamber"

at Auschwitz I was rebuilt in various stages to "help" tourists
understand what

occurred. (18-4298) Felderer concluded that there had never been any gas
chamber

at Auschwitz I and that the building had been nothing more than a
crematory and

morgue, later altered in 1943 to an air-raid shelter with a surgical
room.

Felderer advised Zündel of his conclusions. (19-4356)

The Auschwitz I Black Wall:

The Black Wall at Auschwitz I was allegedly where about 20,000 people
were shot

by the Nazis. Felderer checked the wall and discovered that it was
constructed

of one set of bricks with no indications of bullet holes. (18-4305,
4306)

The wall was located between Blocks 10 and 11 which were used during the
war as

special barracks for the criminals at Auschwitz. Felderer pointed out
that there

were many ordinary criminals in the camp as well as Jehovah's Witnesses
and so

on. (18 4310 to 4312)

At this place also, there was a religious aura. When tourists were taken
to the

Black Wall, the Museum guide asked them to be silent for one minute.
Again, the

tourists placed flowers at the wall which they could buy at the
Auschwitz flower

shop. (18 4312)

Standing Cells:

Felderer showed a series of slides of the so-called standing cells where
the

prisoners allegedly had to stand up in the cell. Tourists, who were
asked to

follow a certain path while looking into the standing cells, would find
that the

windows in the cells became smaller and smaller with less and less
light.

Felderer discovered by going outside the building and around the back
that the

windows had been patched over to make them consecutively smaller to
provide for

this more dramatic effect. (18 4315, 4316)

Auschwitz Museum Private Artifacts:

Felderer was allowed by Dr. Szymanski to view and photograph the private

artifact collection located inside Block 25. (18-4316) This collection
included

crafts made by the inmates while they were recovering from sickness
(18-4320);

sheet music played by the orchestra (18- 4321); posters which were
displayed in

the barracks, warning the inmates that if they did not keep themselves
clean,

they would die. One poster illustrated a large louse with a caption in
German

and Polish warning inmates that "One Louse Means Your Death." This
referred to

the louse which carried typhus. (18-4321, 4322)

Also included in the private collection were gas masks and filters used
by the

Germans while fumigating the camp with Zyklon B. Felderer indicated that
Zyklon

B was sold in Sweden prior to the Second World War as an insecticide to
kill

lice, rats and bugs. In Auschwitz, it was used for the same purpose.
Piper told

Felderer that the camp had copies of the special instructions which the

exterminators followed during the fumigation process, such as how the
gas mask

was to be worn, the complications of the gas and the required airing of
the

room. Felderer was very curious as to why the gas masks and other
related items

were not in the main display at Auschwitz. His conclusion, which he
related to

Zündel, was that when one talked about gassing, one did not want the
people to

realize that there were technical problems involved with it. Instead,
one wanted

to portray to the people that there was really nothing much to it and
that it

could be done very quickly. (18 4317, 4318)

In this private collection, Felderer was astonished to discover that the

cremations carried out at Auschwitz were done in a manner no different
than was

done in Sweden today. The body to be cremated was identified by a
numbered tag

placed on the body before cremation. After cremation, the ashes were
placed in a

plastic bag and the tag tied to the bag. The bag was then placed in an
urn and

either placed in a wooden casket or mailed to next-of-kin. Felderer
showed

slides of the bags, urns and tags held in the private collection. These
were

shown to Felderer and the procedure explained to him by Dr. Szymanski.
(18-4318,

4319)

Inmate Sporting Activities:

Felderer showed a slide of inmates fencing. This photograph was another
which

came from the Dürrfeld records in the American archives. Dürrfeld
believed that

the camp had been a decent place where inmates could, in their free
time, pursue

sports such as fencing, boxing and swimming. To Felderer, the idea that

Auschwitz was also a death camp, as well as a place where sporting
events were

carried on, was ludicrous. (19-4406, 4407)

Auschwitz Mass Grave:

Felderer showed a sign at the only mass grave at Auschwitz, that of 700

prisoners of the camp who died in the last days of the camp's existence
and

those who were beyond recovery and died after the liberation by the
Soviets in

1945. (19-4360)

Monowitz:

Monowitz was located about 6 km. from Auschwitz and was the industrial
complex

where many of the inmates worked. Today, it was Poland's largest
chemical

factory and spewed pollution over the countryside. At times, Auschwitz
was

enveloped in this poison, said Felderer. He noted that Communist
countries such

as Poland had absolutely no pollution controls. (19- 4361, 4362)

Birkenau (Auschwitz II) Aerial Photographs:

Birkenau was located about 3 km. from the mother camp of Auschwitz I.
Using

slides of the CIA aerial photographs taken during the war and a map of
the camp,

Felderer pointed out Kremas II and III (which were the buildings claimed
to be

the gas chambers), the railway line into the camp, the ramp where
prisoners

disembarked, the delousing buildings, the male and female sections of
the camp,

the Sauna, the hospital section, the kitchens, the sports field, and the
sewage

plant. (19-4363 to 4369)

Using the aerial photographs, Felderer explained how the gassing
procedure

allegedly took place. Prisoners arriving by train disembarked at the
ramp, and

were then allegedly selected for either work or immediate gassing. Those

selected for gassing were walked up to the crematory buildings where
both men

and women undressed in a large room below ground. The alleged gassings
took

place in an adjacent room. (19-4370 to 4372)

Felderer refused to speculate on how many prisoners were in the camp
during the

war. The number could only be known, he testified, if the authorities
allowed

access to camp records still kept secret in Moscow. (19-4447)

Birkenau Monuments:

As the tourist entered Birkenau, he went up a road which led to the main

Birkenau monument. On several large stone tablets in front of the
monument were

written, in several languages, the words:

FOUR MILLION PEOPLE SUFFERED AND DIED HERE AT THE HANDS OF THE NAZI
MURDERERS BETWEEN THE YEARS 1940 AND 1945.

Most tourists ended their visit to Birkenau by looking at this monument
and

without making any further inspection of the camp. For the tourist, the

monuments were proof of the mass murders allegedly committed at the
camp.

(19-4403, 4404)

Birkenau Hospital Buildings:

Next to Krema III was the place where the hospital section at Birkenau
had been

located. The hospital buildings were no longer standing today because
around the

1960s (Felderer had been unable to ascertain the exact date) the
buildings

burned down. (19-4405)

Birkenau Delousing Buildings:

Felderer discovered two delousing buildings in Birkenau, which he
testified,

were probably kept secret and off-limits to the public because they
explained

the so called "selection" procedure at the ramp by Dr. Mengele and other
camp

doctors. Males were sent to delouse in a separate building from the
women and

children. (19-4378 to 4381) The selection procedure also involved a
visual

determination of the health of incoming prisoners. It was in the
interest of the

camp authorities not to spread disease. If people were sick and needed
to be

treated, the camp had hospitals. (20-4765 to 4768)

The Auschwitz Museum today did not deny that incoming prisoners were
deloused.

Hair was cut off from both males and females because it harboured lice.
It was

also saved and used for various manufacturing needs during the war.
(19-4381)

Hair on display at Auschwitz today, however, was depicted as being the
hair of

gassed victims. (19-4381, 4382)

Felderer showed a slide of an outside wall of the delousing building in
the

women's camp which indicated a significant blue colour. Felderer was
told by

Auschwitz officials that the blue staining resulted from the use of
Zyklon B.

(19-4383) Felderer believed the colour got on the walls when mattresses
which

had been deloused inside the building were then taken outside for
airing, leaned

against a wall and beaten for a length of time to get any Zyklon B out
of the

material. The powder material which was the inert carrier of the Zyklon
B would

stick to the wall and produce the distinct blue colouration. Felderer
noted that

this blue colour was not found in the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz
at all.

(19-4383, 4384)

The delousing buildings, which were not open to the public, contained
autoclaves

used to decontaminate materials using steam. (19-4384, 4385) Rooms
inside the

building also indicated blue staining, which Felderer concluded was
authentic

and not simply painted on afterwards. Felderer told Zündel that the
discovery of

the delousing buildings was a tremendous step in their investigation.
The blue

staining was the Zyklon B mark and it was astonishing that this colour
was not

found in the buildings where it was claimed people were gassed to death
using

Zyklon B. (19 4376, 4387, 4388)

Posters on the walls of the delousing building warned inmates that "One
Louse

Means Your Death" and "To be Clean is Your Duty." Felderer testified the
Nazis

were very fearful of lice because they brought great epidemics into the
camps.

(19 4392)

Birkenau Kitchens:

The kitchens were also buildings closed to the public. Auschwitz
officials told

Felderer the kitchens were not accessible to the public to prevent
vandalism and

to preserve the buildings. Slides indicated several extremely large
cooking vats

still inside the buildings. (19-4394)

Birkenau Wash Barracks:

One barrack in each of the women's and men's camps contained wash
facilities,

including running water, for personal hygiene. The walls were decorated
with

paintings of razors, paste and toothbrushes. Signs warned inmates that
to make

the drinking water impure would result in a stiff sentence. Drawings and
sayings

painted on the wall said: "Sun, Air, Water Maintains Your Health."
Felderer told

Zündel that the personal hygiene of the inmates was important not just
for the

inmates but also for the camp administration, since typhus struck both
inmates

and Nazi camp personnel alike. (19-4394, 4395, 4398)

Birkenau Barracks:

Inmates drew sayings and paintings on the walls, including ships, birds,

windmills, a child underneath an umbrella, children playing, a boy going
to

school, a church nestled in a wooded countryside. Felderer testified
that he

never expected to find such drawings in a "death camp." Nobody wanted to
be in

prison; he himself had been in prison and knew what it meant. But the
inmates,

to cheer their life up, decorated the walls. It indicated to Felderer
that their

life was not as severe as they had made it out to be. (19-4400 to 4402)

Birkenau Crematoria (Kremas) and Alleged Gas Chambers:

Felderer was certain that the buildings marked on plans of Auschwitz as

crematories (called Kremas)were indeed used as such. He did not believe
they

were used as gas chambers. (19- 4374) Auschwitz-Birkenau needed
crematories

because the camps were engulfed by extreme epidemics of typhus, caused
primarily

by lice. Epidemics were so severe that at times the authorities
prohibited

people from entering Auschwitz or the surrounding area for a radius of
some 40

km. in efforts to contain the disease. For the same reason, it was
necessary to

dispose of the corpses by cremation. (19-4409, 4410) The crematories
were built

at the same end of the camps as the sewage plants and water purification
plants.

(19-4433, 4434)

Krema II at Birkenau contained five furnaces with three retorts each.
The rooms

below ground alleged to be gas chambers were shown as morgues on the
original

blueprints obtained by Felderer from Auschwitz officials. They required
cool

places to store the corpses, thus the rooms were below ground. (19-4409)

The Auschwitz Museum stated that the victims would go down the stairs
into the

undressing room, undress and wait their turn to be gassed. The actual
gassings

were alleged to have taken place in an adjoining room. The Zyklon B was
said to

have been discharged into the gas chamber through seven holes in the
roof. After

the gassing, the victims were allegedly taken up to the crematory and
burned.

Felderer testified that he told Zündel there were two major problems
with this

account: first, the crematories at Auschwitz were not much different
from those

still used in Sweden which took an hour and a half to two hours to
incinerate a

body. This meant that the bodies of the allegedly gassed would have
piled up

considerably since the furnaces would not have been able to handle the
volume.

Secondly, since Zyklon B was so dangerous to handle, it would have meant
that

the entire staff of the building and those waiting to be gassed would
have been

gassed in any event. Felderer found the whole theory "ridiculous."
(19-4421,

4422)

Felderer examined and measured the roof over the alleged gas chamber at
Krema

II. He found only a natural crack and two holes chiselled into the
concrete with

twisted reinforced steel sticking out. Neither hole was in the position
on the

roof that the Auschwitz authorities alleged they should have been. A
heavy

concrete lid lying by one of the holes did not fit. Felderer believed
the holes

were chiselled out after the war to support the gassing allegation.
(19-4423,

4424) The alleged gas chamber was 70 metres long, 30 metres wide and 2
metres 20

cm. high. (19- 4479)

cmi.

Inside the alleged gas chamber of Krema II, Felderer found and
photographed

drains on the floor. Extermination authors such as Reitlinger claimed
that the

gas chamber had no drainage. (19-4425) There was no evidence on the
inside of

the alleged gas chamber of the bluish stain characteristic of Zyklon B.
Nor was

there any evidence of facilities for the shower heads which
extermination

literature also claimed were used for the discharge of the gas. The
pillars in

the room were of solid concrete; this contradicted extermination stories
of

hollow pillars down which the Zyklon B was allegedly thrown.(19-4426,
4427)

Felderer found no evidence of an opening for ventilation to exhaust the
gas.

(19-4477) Neither Krema II nor III, upon examination by Felderer, showed
any

indication of the blue stain associated with Zyklon B. (19-4430)

Very little remained of Kremas IV and V, and Felderer was not convinced
that

these buildings had, in fact, been used as crematories. He speculated
that,

given the size of the camp, they might in fact have been garbage
incinerators.

He pointed out that, given the severe typhus epidemics at the camp, the
Germans

would not have taken the garbage out of the camp thereby risking the
spread of

the disease. Felderer showed a slide of a wagon he found beside Krema IV
which

looked very much like the wagons used in incinerators in Sweden to take
away

ashes. (19- 4445, 4448) Krema IV was allegedly destroyed during a mutiny
of

prisoners on October 7, 1944. (19-4447) As with many other things
concerning the

camp, the Auschwitz officials were not forthcoming with information
concerning

these buildings. (19-4446)

Felderer discussed with Zündel the problems which would have arisen in
any

attempt to gas people in underground rooms such as the alleged gas
chamber at

Krema II. There was the danger of explosion; the requirement of a
tremendous

ventilation to get the gas out so that a new batch of victims could be
put into

the room. He came to the conclusion that the building was never used as
a gas

chamber, but was used as a crematory and morgue, as indicated on the
original

German blueprints where the alleged gas chamber was labelled a
Leichenkeller - a

place where corpses were stored. (19-4477 to 4480)

Birkenau Sports Field:

Close to the Kremas was a sports playing field which was used by the
inmates to

play soccer and other sports. One of the first people to tell Felderer
that it

was used as a sports ground was one of the guards of the artifacts, a
Mr.

Urbaniek. Felderer found it very peculiar that one would put a sports
ground

close to the very places where it was claimed that millions of people
were

gassed to death. Felderer showed a slide of a map in one of the main
guidebooks

of Auschwitz which indicated that the field had been a sports stadium.
He

believed it was the first map presented by Auschwitz authorities which

identified the field as a sports field. (19-4375, 4376)

Birkenau Sewage Plant:

Also near the Kremas were the Birkenau sewage facilities where the
toilet water

and so on was purified and channelled into what was called the
Kiesgruben for

filtration. Felderer told Zündel this indicated that the camp was
intended to

last for many years and was not made "just for a twinkle of an eye." A
great

deal of engineering and planning was involved. Felderer pointed out that

functions such as the sewage plants and the crematories were placed at
the top

part of the camp away from the barracks. (19-4433, 4434)

Birkenau Sauna:

The Sauna was built in 1943; this became the new place where delousing
took

place. Today it was not open to the public although it was the largest
building

in the Birkenau camp. Exterminationist literature also had very little
to say

about this building. (19-4434, 4435)

The Sauna contained defumigation chambers where either hot air or steam
was used

to defumigate clothing or other materials. Clothes were placed on wagons
on the

"dirty" side of the chamber and pushed into the chamber on rails. These
chambers

clearly had air-tight doors which were sealed by heavy sprockets. No
allegation,

however, had ever been made that this building was used to gas people.
After

defumigation, the clothes were pushed out the other end to the "clean"
side of

the chamber. (19-4436 to 4439)

The Sauna also contained a special room where hair was cut prior to the

prisoners being deloused. The largest room in the Sauna was used on
special

occasions as a dance hall. Felderer assumed that this was the room
referred to

by Fania Fenelon. (19-4442, 4443) Smolen promised to provide Felderer
with a

blueprint of this building but never did so. (19-4436)

To Felderer, the building indicated that there was a kernel of truth to
the

extermination allegation: there were gas chambers but they were used for

defumigation and cleansing purposes, not to exterminate people.
(19-4439)

Birkenau Burning Pits:

Felderer examined the area where such former inmates as Filip Müller
claimed

that large pits were dug for the burning of corpses. Felderer found it
to be

very swampy and wet and close to a forested area. He told Zündel that
such pits

would have filled very quickly with water. (19- 4450, 4451)

Majdanek Crematory and Alleged Gas Chamber:

The crematory and alleged gas chamber at Majdanek were in separate
buildings and

were approximately 1 km. distant from each other. A monument, which was
supposed

to depict an urn, contained sand to symbolize the ashes of the people.
These

monuments were paid for by the West German government; they were
maintained by

Christian youth groups who were sorry about all the people allegedly
gassed

there. (19-4463, 4464)

Felderer believed the furnaces at Majdanek to be authentic. (19-4482)
The

crematory contained an autopsy room and a washroom. (19-4467, 4469) Like

Auschwitz, Majdanek also suffered from epidemics of typhus. Felderer was
shown

the Majdanek death books by a camp official, which indicated that in May
of 1942

about 1,500 people had died of the disease. (19-4468)

The delousing buildings at Majdanek were the places where the alleged
gassings

occurred. (19-4489) The gas was allegedly discharged through openings
into the

gas chamber by an SS man from an attic above the chamber. Felderer
examined the

attic and found it extremely difficult to maneuver in because of the
proximity

of the roof and the number of nails. (19-4491, 4492) After the gassing,
the

bodies were allegedly taken 1 km. to the crematory for burning. (19-
4489) Since

the gassings were supposed to be done in total secrecy, Felderer
believed this

claim was, even for exterminationists, far-fetched. (19-4496) Felderer
believed

the room could very well have been used as a fumigation chamber but not
as a gas

chamber to kill people. The walls had the distinctive blue staining of
Zyklon B.

(19-4495)

Guards at the camp showed Felderer a new gas chamber under construction
in

Disinfection Number 1, a building closed to the public. The room was to
be a

symbolic reproduction. (19-4499, 4500)

Majdanek had displays of shoes and several-sized cans (1-2 litre) of
Zyklon B.

(19 4484, 4485) The officials held that the Zyklon was used to gas
people;

Felderer believed it was used for the purpose it had long been used for,
that of

fumigation. (19-4486)

Treblinka:

Treblinka was claimed to be one of the death camps. Very little could be
seen

there, however, except for monuments and stones. (19-4502, 5403)
Felderer

conducted tests on the trees to determine when they were planted.

Exterminationists claimed the trees were planted by the Nazis to
camouflage the

camp; Felderer found that the trees had been planted in about 1966 to
1968.

(19-4505) While exterminationists claimed that prisoners were unloaded
from the

trains and taken very quickly to the gas chambers, Felderer pointed out
that the

area alleged to be the camp today was several kilometres from the
railroad.

(19-4506)

Belzec:

As with Treblinka, there were no authentic buildings remaining of this
alleged

death camp and it was located away from a railroad line, contrary to

exterminationist accounts. (19- 4508)

Sobibor:

Felderer found no material evidence at Sobibor to support the death camp

allegation. He again made tests of trees alleged to have been planted by
the

Nazis, and found them to have been planted in the late 1960s. This was
later

confirmed by a general who lived in the area. (19-4510)

Gross-Rosen:

Felderer showed the jury a photograph of the swimming pool at
Gross-Rosen

concentration camp. (19-4514)

This ended the show of slides which Felderer took on his investigations
of the

Nazi concentration camps. Felderer testified that he was arrested in
Poland near

Sobibor after distributing leaflets about the Katyn massacre of about
14,000

Polish officers during the war. While the official version claimed the
officers

were murdered by the Nazis, the Poles interviewed by Felderer claimed
that it

was the Soviets who murdered them. (19-4523, 4524) He was warned that he
could

be liable to a prison sentence of up to 15 years for distributing such
material.

Felderer had not been back to Poland since that trip, but hoped that he
would be

allowed in if he returned. (19 4526)

Felderer was upset that people were being deliberately conned and fooled
into

believing the extermination story. He noted that the fact that one could
be

imprisoned for challenging the story did not make people very free to
conduct

investigations. It would make them fearful. This fear, said Felderer,
was what

the authorities wanted because without fear they could not control
people.

(19-4528)

Felderer believed he had done his homework; he had walked over these
places,

talked to the people, looked at the original documents to the extent
that he

could. He had gotten his feet dirty unlike the exterminationists who ran
around

with red ribbon documents like prima donnas2, who looked down at the
guards at

the camps and said "You are just a guard here, but I am from the United
States,

I am a professor!" To Felderer, the exterminationists lacked the human
touch and

failed to do their research. They lived on their titles and tried to
impress

people with their titles but they didn't impress Felderer. He mocked his

opponents, asking how they could write about this subject without ever
having

visited the camps. (19-4541, 4542)

Felderer published a book showing that the Anne Frank diary was a hoax3;
his

research included examining the building where the Anne Frank Museum was
located

today, samples of the girl's handwriting and the internal contradictions
within

the diary itself. Felderer wrote to Otto Frank, Anne Frank's father,
requesting

the opportunity to examine the actual handwritten diary. This request
was

denied. Felderer suggested in his book that an analysis of the diary ink
should

be made to determine authenticity; this was later done on part of the
manuscript

in a West German court proceeding. This analysis found that certain
parts of the

diary were written in ball- point pen and therefore must have been
written after

the war since ball-point pens were not sold during the war. Although
Felderer

was investigated in 1979 by the Swedish Attorney General concerning this
book,

no cause for any charge was found. Zündel was aware of the book and the

investigation. (19-4529 to 4532)

In 1979, after the showing of the film Holocaust in Sweden, Felderer
began

receiving threatening telephone calls night and day. Stones were thrown
through

his windows and he was attacked and hit over the head with an iron bar
outside

his apartment. Felderer himself believed in non-violence as he believed
truth

could never be obtained through violence. (19-4579, 4580,4581)

Felderer was charged in 1983 (19-4537) as a result of publishing a flyer

entitled "Please Accept This Hair of a Gassed Victim!." (19-4542;
entered as

Exhibit 78, 19 4552). The flyer was addressed to the Auschwitz Museum

authorities, telling them that their exhibits of hair were as much proof
of

gassings as his own garbage at home. The flyer encouraged people to send
their

garbage to Auschwitz to enlarge the museum's collection of faked
exhibits.

(19-4537) The flyer was meant as satire, and reflected Felderer's
disgust with

the many faked aspects of the Auschwitz Museum. (19-4538) He intended to
make

people think about the exhibits and to question what exhibits of hair
and snuff

boxes had to do with the alleged murders of many people. The flyer also

emphasized the environmental problems in Poland. Auschwitz today, said
Felderer,

was a "veritable gas chamber" because Polish authorities would do
absolutely

nothing about pollution control at nearby Monowitz. (19-4539)

To penetrate the belief in the extermination theory, a theory which had
so much

state power and money behind it, it was necessary in Felderer's view to
use

satire. He pointed out that Zionists made many movies satirizing Adolf
Hitler

and made money out of it. (19-4548) Felderer believed that the state of
Israel

had, to a large extent, built itself upon this hoax and he communicated
this

view to Zündel. (19 4541)

Zündel had disapproved of the flyer, but Felderer felt that it was a
serious

thing to accuse the German people of having committed a terrible crime
and then

to use deceptive methods to prove it. Felderer thought the concentration
camps

were more humane than the prisons of today where the prisoners sat in
concrete

buildings staring at concrete walls with only a short period outside for

exercise. At Birkenau, the prisoners could come out of the brick
barracks and

see the sky. (19 4546, 4547)

The second flyer which formed part of the charge against him in Sweden
was

"Dokumentationszentrum No. 468 - The Call for Volunteers" (Exhibit 79,
entered

19 4555)), in which Felderer reproduced a letter he had obtained
anonymously.

The letter, addressed from a Christian Zionist group (Gesellschaft für

christlich-jüdische Zusammenarbeit Heidelberg) to a government Minister
in Bonn,

called for Felderer's political persecution in Sweden. To Felderer, it
proved

that freedom of speech was being suppressed through means no different
from that

of the Soviet Union. As a result of publishing these flyers, Felderer
was

convicted on the criminal charge of agitating against an ethnic group
and

received a ten month prison sentence. Felderer testified both pamphlets
were not

anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist. After three hunger strikes, Felderer was
finally

allowed to have a paper and pen in his cell. (19-4546, 4552 to 4556)

Felderer considered his writings to be true and correct, but was not
dogmatic

about it. He had mailed his material to persons such as Raul Hilberg,
Simon

Wiesenthal and others and requested such opponents to find errors in it.
If they

found any errors, Felderer said he would be the first one who would
change them.

"I am not like my opponents, rigidly sticking to a dogma and not change
my views

when I know I cannot hold on to them." (19-4550) He had attempted many
times to

get an open debate on the extermination going. (19-4613 to 4616)

Felderer believed the CIA booklet The Holocaust Revisited (Exhibit 85)
to be one

of the most important booklets published on the extermination theory
because of

the photographs. He did not agree at all with the text. (19-4605)

A tape of an interview between Zündel and Felderer which took place in
Sweden in

1981 concerning the mass extermination and gas chambers was played to
the jury.

(19-4606, 4607, 4621; entered as Exhibit 86, 19-4632))

Felderer testified that during the war his family had lived in different
places.

His mother was more or less forcibly interned at various places. At the
end of

the war the family, with the help of smugglers, escaped into Italy after
being

accused of being Jewish. The family had boarded in Munich with a Jewish
family.

The family lived in Italy until 1949 when they moved to Sweden. (19-4609
to

4611)

Felderer wanted the truth to be told because he loved Jews; he believed
the

truth benefited them and all others as well. It was through a proper

understanding of history that racial harmony increased. If people were
told, for

instance, that the American Indians were the only bad people who did
nothing but

scalp White men, then people were not getting the truth. (19- 4612,
4619)

On cross-examination, Felderer testified that prior to publication, he
did not

know that "Richard Harwood" was not the real name of the author of Did
Six

Million Really Die?. He now understood the author's real name was
Richard

Verrall, although he had never met him. The pseudonym "Richard Harwood"
was

subsequently used by author David McCalden and by Felderer himself.
Felderer

testified he was not interested in the author, but in the contents of
Did Six

Million Really Die?. (20-4635 to 4638)

His book Auschwitz Exit was published under the pseudonym "Abraham
Cohen"

because he was doing research in Communist countries which required
visas for

entrance. He feared that if his real name was associated with the book,
he would

be denied entry. His fears proved to be entirely justified because in
1981 he

was thrown into prison in Poland. (20-4641, 4642) Volume II of Auschwitz
Exit,

however, was published with his own name on the front cover. (20-4646)

Felderer testified that in 1979 Zündel knew perhaps more than many
people about

the extermination theory but he lacked knowledge about the geographical
aspects

of the camps. (20- 4646, 4647) Zündel was searching, trying to find an
answer to

the question of whether the Nazi regime exterminated millions of Jews.
(20-4651)

Felderer first read about the Joint Allied Declaration of the Allies in
Dr.

Arthur Butz's book, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century in about 1976.
(20-4652)

He was aware that in a war there was propaganda. His interest was in
getting at

the central issue of the gas chambers by visiting the places where the
crimes

themselves were allegedly perpetrated. (20-4654)

Felderer was quite sure Zündel had read literature pertaining to the

declarations regarding gas chambers made by prisoners who escaped in
1944 from

Birkenau. (20 4655)

Felderer believed he was the person who brought to Zündel's attention
the

falsification of former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Hoess's memoirs,
since

Felderer had actually seen the material in Auschwitz allegedly written
by Hoess.

This material was written in pencil with no corrections of any sort and
was even

underlined in areas which Felderer believed to be parts the Communists
were

interested in as propaganda. (20-4658) Many of the passages were so
confused

that the reader could not tell which buildings Hoess was referring to.
Felderer

questioned how Hoess, as the man in charge of the camp, could be so
bewildered.

Did he really write the memoirs? Was he drugged? (20-4667)

In the transcript of the Nuremberg trials, there was no statement by
Hoess that

he was tortured, to Felderer's knowledge. He pointed out, however, that
Hoess's

handwritten memorandum, access to which was being denied, might mention
torture.

Felderer emphasized the importance of obtaining the original source
material. He

raised the question of whether Hoess might in fact still be alive since
there

were no photographs or other confirmations of Hoess's hanging. (20-4663,
4664)

Felderer was quite sure he had made reference, in discussions with
Zündel, to

the West German Auschwitz trials conducted in the 1960s, in which none
of the SS

officers denied that the gas chambers at Birkenau were used to
exterminate Jews.

He told Zündel that the SS men also testified that they bicycled inside
the gas

chamber in between gassings. The most ridiculous things were said in
these

trials, said Felderer; he compared them to the witch trials in Sweden,
where

people admitted they had sexual intercourse with the devil. Judges had
accepted

this as the truth and burned women at the stake for it. Felderer
discussed with

Zündel the secrecy of the Auschwitz trials, such as the refusal of the
West

German government to provide the addresses of the people who testified.
He

himself had been able to track some of the witnesses down and found
their

stories to be different from the stories presented in the newspapers.
Felderer

asked if we were supposed to believe stories such as the bicycles in the
gas

chamber or the claim that the firmness of female breasts was one of the
criteria

by which the Nazis decided which women would be gassed and which would
not.

(20-4668, 4669)

Felderer believed that the Auschwitz trials in West Germany in the 1960s
were

post war propaganda but did not believe they were part of a "Zionist

conspiracy." The Jehovah's Witnesses had hidden the truth from the
public and

they were not Jews. He believed the Holocaust propaganda was the work of
the

victors of World War II and of different people who had a vested
interest in

hiding the truth. The Americans wanted to hide the fact that they were
the first

to use the atomic bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Zionists used it
as an

effective way to deflect attention from their terrorization of the
Palestinians

and to get money. (20-4670, 4671, 4723)

Asked if the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem was part of a "Zionist
conspiracy,"

Felderer pointed out that it was the Israelis who abducted him.
(20-4674)

Felderer testified that both he and Zündel were aware of the Wannsee
Conference

in 1979 and both were asking questions about the conference protocol's

authenticity and the accuracy of the translation. Felderer questioned
why those

relying on the Wannsee Conference protocol did not produce the original

document. He himself no longer believed it. Asked if he did not accept
documents

from the National Archives, Felderer reiterated the importance of going
to

original source documents. (20-4677, 4678)

Felderer had watched Professor Christopher Browning's testimony in court
but had

never read Browning's book, Fateful Months, until recently. Browning had
never

been a big man on the issue, pointed out Felderer, but maybe he was the
new star

because the others were burned out and useless. Professor Raul Hilberg
was

afraid of coming to Canada to testify and was hiding somewhere in the
United

States. (19 4676)

Felderer stated both he and Zündel were aware of the Hans Frank diary as
it was

mentioned in Did Six Million Really Die?.(20-4678)

Felderer sold Did Six Million Really Die? for eight Swedish Crowns,
which was

less than the cost of production. Many he gave away free. When some
people paid

more he would reinvest the money into publishing. Primarily, however, he
was

supported by his wife. (20-4680, 4681)

Felderer had no formal education in architecture (20-4690); chemistry
(20-4691);

topography (20-4691); analysis of trees (20-4692); biology (20-4693);
analysis

of aerial photographs ((20-4693); or history ((20-4695). But he pointed
out that

most of the people who wrote on the "Holocaust" were not historians
either,

including Hilberg, Reitlinger and Wiesenthal. (20-4687) Felderer had
often

quoted specialists in his publications, however, and taught himself many
skills,

including dendrochronology. He assumed Zündel knew he did not have
degrees in

chemistry, history and the rest. (20-4691, 4692)

Asked if he was suggesting that the Nazi concentration camps were
"holiday

camps," Felderer replied that he would rather have been in Auschwitz
than in

Dresden or Hamburg which were destroyed with incendiary bombs. At least
there

was some chance of survival in the camps. Felderer did not believe in

incarceration, and noted that Canada had incarcerated 3,000 Jehovah's
Witnesses

in camps during the war, and that the United States had incarcerated up
to

170,000 Japanese. He didn't believe it was a holiday for those people
either.

(20-4720)

The Crown read extensively from the text from The Holocaust
Revisited.(20-4752

to 4784)

Felderer's major publisher, besides his own firm, was the Institute for

Historical Review (IHR) in the United States, founded by Willis Carto.
Carto was

also the founder of the Liberty Lobby. (20-4826)

Felderer agreed that the objective of Did Six Million Really Die? was to
permit

the discussion of the race problem. He did not agree with Harwood's
opinion, but

did not see that his purpose, as a publisher, was to direct people what
to

write. (20-4833, 4834) He himself had married a woman of another race.
(20-4835)

Asked if David McCalden had the same view, Felderer testified that he
had talked

with McCalden a few times and he had not been entirely clear on the
issue.

Felderer pointed out that in the United States, a black man named
Farrakhan

wanted the black people to identify themselves. It was their choice and
Felderer

was not a judge of that. (20-4835)

Felderer was on the Editorial Advisory Committee of the Institute for
Historical

Review and was familiar with a Special Report published by it entitled
Nazi

Gassings a Myth? A New Look at the Holocaust. (20-4835, 4836; IHR
Special Report

filed as Exhibit 93 at 20-4897) The front page of the IHR Special Report
made

reference to an unclaimed $50,000 reward offered by the IHR to anyone
who could

prove that gas chambers for the purpose of killing human beings existed
at

Auschwitz. Felderer testified that he was aware that a Mr. Mermelstein
made a

claim for the $50,000 but stated that he also knew that the claim was
not based

on anything more than emotional stress simply for being challenged.
Mermelstein

filed an affidavit indicating that he was a survivor at Auschwitz, and
that he

was going to produce a dead witness to testify. Felderer had written
Mermelstein

asking him how it was possible that for the first time in history he
would be

able to obtain a dead witness to testify as an expert. Felderer was not
clear on

what happened in the case. By that time, he was getting less and less
interested

in the exterminationists; he felt he had done his main work and was
convinced it

was not true. As far as he knew, Mermelstein never produced anything
other than

claiming that there were some showers inside Krema I. Felderer pointed
out there

were no showers in Krema I except as a figment of Mr. Mermelstein's
imagination.

(20-4837 to 4839)

Mermelstein sued Felderer in the United States; the trial proceeded in

Felderer's absence when the United States refused him entry. Felderer
found it

mind-boggling that such things could go on. (20-4839)

Asked if the main objective of the Institute for Historical Review was
to deny

the Holocaust, Felderer testified that they had come to a consensus that
there

was a real problem involved with the extermination theory. He agreed it
was an

objective but was not its whole activity. (20-4842, 4843)

Felderer agreed that the "Bibliography of 'Holocaust' Revisionism"
contained in

the IHR Special Report included books by Butz, Christophersen,
Faurisson,

Rassinier, Walendy, Harwood and himself. (20-4843, 4844, 4845)

Felderer was sentenced to ten months in prison in Sweden for one of the
RH

Bulletins which dealt with sending garbage to Auschwitz. Felderer
understood Mr.

Wiesenthal was very disturbed at Felderer's offence, that of having
thought for

himself and not allowing somebody else to think for him. Wiesenthal, of
course,

did not like that because totalitarians always liked other people to
think for

you and not to have you thinking for yourself. (20-4847)

Asked if he had testified that he loved Jews, Felderer testified that
his

biggest problems had been with non-Jews. The extermination theory made
Jews into

Nazi collaborators and thieves and he believed he was showing love to
them and

liberating them by his work. (20-4847, 4848)

Upon request by the Crown, Felderer read in full RH305, "Please Accept
This Hair

of a Gassed Victim," the flyer for which he had been convicted in
Sweden.

Please Accept This HAIR OF A GASSED VICTIM!

&#8364; NEXT TIME YOU CUT YOUR HAIR, DO NOT DISCARD IT! NO, MAIL IT
INSTEAD TO MR.

SMOLEN AT THE AUSCHWITZ MUSEUM OR TO ANY OF THE ADDRESSES FOUND ON THE
NEXT PAGE

- TO BE EXHIBITED IN THE DISPLAY OF HAIR OF GASSED VICTIMS. YOU HAIR HAS
A MUCH

BETTER CLAIM TO BE EXHIBITED THERE THAN THE PHONY SAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL
WIGS AND

HAIR HITHERTO EXHIBITED. ALSO COLLECT TOGETHER THE HAIR OF ALL YOUR
FRIENDS,

DOGS, AND OTHER ANIMALS. SEND IT ALL IN A PLASTIC BAG TO MR. SMOLEN. HE
WILL

REMEMBER YOU FOR IT. IT CAN BE MAILED AS "PRINTED MATTER" BY PLACING THE
TERM

"SAMPLE" ON THE PRECIOUS DELIVERY.

TO: Mr. K. Smolen and Staff, Auschwitz Museum, Oswiecim, Poland

Dear Mr. Smolen,

In appreciation of your deep concern for gassed victims, I am hereby
forwarding

my personal trophy for your permanent Museum exhibits. I understand that
you are

intensely involved with the subject of gassing. Personally I feel rather

miserable. Not even Zyklon B would cure me! This is much on account of
the fact

that I am getting gassed to death by a slow poison procedure. Our air is
full of

filth, poison, gasses, harmful chemicals and other disgusting elements.
Matters

are no better in your city. Your city is virtually saturated with deadly
gasses

emanating from your Monowitz chemical factory. In fact the place is not
fit even

for crows. I urge you to pay it a visit. Surely the Nazis never had a
factory in

such deplorable condition. But it is not necessary for you to go there
as the

factory's poison gasses reaches your very own office at Auschwitz which
is

situated close to the former Nazi brothel. In case of urgency I suggest
you to

put on a gas mask immediately. You may collect one at the private Museum

displays in Block 24. Please be sure that it has the special "J" filter.
The

poison at Auschwitz is deadly. You need to take the upmost precautions.

My package of hair to you is a very personal proof of the fact that I am
being

gassed to death. Should you doubt it, I beg your experts to analyze it.
I am

therefore donating this private gift to you with the hope of that
countless of

your Museum's avid onlookers may gaze at it in wonder and give a solemn
prayer

in memory of a victim doomed to extinction due to environmental poison
gassing.

With much respect for your stupendous task and your deep concern for
gassed

victims, I hereby solemnly, and prayerfully, deliver my hair to your
loving and

tender care. May it inspire you and all your visitors to a multitude of
silent

moments and intense meditations.

A VICTIM WHOSE DAYS ARE NUMBERED

(page 2)

INTERNATIONAL FRATERNITY OF GARBAGE COLLECTORS FOR A POISON FREE WORLD

The below given, highly acclaimed museums and addresses are in permanent
need of

documentary evidence and museum exhibits. They would highly appreciate
if you

could send them any documentary garbage that you may possess so that
they can

complete and extend their princely exhibits. May we suggest the
following items

to be considered to be sent to the distinguished gentlemen at your
speediest

convenience:

Pulled teeth (exhibited as authentic samples from gassed victims), dust,
dust

from vacuum cleaners, scrap paper, broken spectacles (exhibited as proof
of

gassed and clobbered victims), cut nails (Nazi examples of pulling
nails), used

toothbrushes and toothpicks, dirty socks, cigarette butts, used chewing
gum,

used snuff (snuff cans are exhibited at Auschwitz), fish bones, meat
bones,

chicken bones and other bones, tin cans (exhibited as contained Zyklon
B), old

cloth (exhibited as being the cloths of former inmates), old shoes, soap
rests

(will be exhibited as "Pure Jewish Fat"), dead lice (in memory of former
friends

or enemies - depending on which side you were on), potato, orange, and
apple

peelings (as evidence for starved victims), worn-out bedpans (in memory
of when

Mr. Smolen used to chase around with them in the Hospital just by "gas
chamber"

No. 3 at Birkenau), additional bedpans (in memory of when Dr. Szymanski
used to

administer his loving and tender care to the patients in the "death
camp"),

bundles of swastikas (in appreciation of the fact that Czech, Smolen,
Szymanski,

Pilichowski, Filip Müller, S. Wiesenthal, J. Wieczorek, Kania and
legions of

others collaborated with the Nazis) - and countless of other precious
items: YOU

NAME THEM - THEY TAKE THEM!

[Cartoon of Smiling Woman holding a wrapped gift, saying: "Please send
us all

your junks. We need them for our authentic exhibits and documentation!"]

THE EXTERMINATION OUTLETS ARE IN CONSTANT NEED OF YOUR PRECIOUS GIFTS.
DO NOT

DISAPPOINT THEM. SEND YOUR GARBAGE TO THEM AT ONCE!. THEY WILL THANK YOU
FOR IT.

Dear Gentlemen and Distinguished Members of the International Fraternity
of

Garbage Collectors:

&#8364; My personal free gift to your museum and documentary depot. AS
ONE OF THE

MILLIONS OF GASSED VICTIMS ON THIS EARTH DUE TO ENVIRONMENTAL POISONING,
I WANT

TO DONATE THIS SAMPLE TO BE DISPLAYED AT YOUR PERMANENT EXHIBITS. I ALSO
FEEL

THAT THEY SHOULD FULFILL YOUR MOST STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS AS DOCUMENTARY

EVIDENCE. IN FACT, I KNOW OF NOTHING AS AUTHENTIC AS THIS AMIDST ALL
YOUR

PRESENT EXHIBITS AND DOCUMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE IN THE HUMANITARIAN WORK OF COLLECTING
PRICELESS

MEMORIES OF UNFORTUNATE AND DESTITUTE VICTIMS. MAY THIS SMALL TOKEN ON
MY PART

SPUR YOU TO RENEWED EFFORTS IN THIS HONORABLE AND TIMELESS TASK. IT IS
MY

SINCERE HOPE THAT I IN THE FUTURE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL
CONTRIBUTIONS

BY MEANS OF MY AUTHENTIC AND PRICELESS SAMPLES SO THAT YOU CAN USE THEM
IN YOUR

WORLD ACCLAIMED EXHIBITS.

SIGNED: A Person Who Does Not Regret To Share His Troubles and Precious

Possessions With Those In Need.

[Cartoon of Clown saying: "I am an Exterminationist specialist. Kindly
send your

documents to all of our addresses. You will be remembered for it!]

[List of names and addresses of exterminationist historians: Leon
Poliakov,

Simon Wiesenthal, Gideon Hausner, Martin Broszat, Anne Frank Huis,
Czeslaw

Pilichowski, Janusz Wieczorek] (RH Bulletin entered as Exhibit 78)

Felderer testified that the Bulletin was satire and it was clear by
reading it

that it was satire. (20-4855)

Upon request by the Crown, Felderer read the caption under the cartoon
of a male

crying crocodile tears which said:

"I Was Gassed 6 Times! No! Ten times, No!...and there are 5,999,999
others like

me in Neu Jork!" The six million gassed Jews is a swindle! There never
were any

gas chambers! For information and literature send us US $3 in an
envelope or

similar. Order: Anne Frank Diary A Hoax... Subscription to our
Bulletins: US

$20. (Cartoon entered as Exhibit 91 at 20-4896)

Asked if he still maintained that he loved Jews, Felderer asked what
that had to

do with the question of the gas chambers. There were Jewish people who
did not

believe in the gas chambers. Did they hate themselves because they did
not

believe in it? It was not a question of Jews, but a question of the gas

chambers. (20-4856)

The Crown next produced a flyer regarding the Anne Frank Museum with a
condom

attached. Felderer stated that the flyer and condom had been produced in
the

1985 trial and that he had clearly testified then that he had nothing to
do with

the condom. He had published the actual flyer itself. (20-4857) Upon
request by

the Crown, Felderer read the flyer. He indicated that the cartoon came
from

Hustler magazine. (20-4861; re-ex. 20-4886; entered as Exhibit 88 at
20-4862)

Upon request by the Crown, Felderer read another of his flyers entitled
"Three

Jewish Contributions to Western Civilization." These contributions were
the

atomic bomb, developed by Robert Oppenheimer, the hydrogen bomb,
developed by

Edward Teller and the neutron bomb, developed by Samuel Cohen. All three
men

were Jews. Felderer testified the flyer said a lot about certain people
who had

developed these terrible weapons. (Flyer entered as Exhibit 89 at
20-4863)

Felderer was shown another flyer of which only one side reflected his
own

material. He did not know who produced the material on the other side.
He had

stated in his Bulletin that if people wanted to use his address they
could do

so; that was why he could not always know what some people might publish
in his

name. Upon request by the Crown, Felderer read the side of the bulletin
he had

identified as his own material. It dealt with the sending of garbage to

Auschwitz for their displays. (20 4863, 4864, 4865)

Felderer was shown another flyer entitled "Invitation" which he again
was

requested to read. The flyer dealt with Felderer's incarceration for 6
months in

Sweden. (20 4867, 4868; Flyer entered as Exhibit 90 at 20-4895)

Felderer testified that he had been put into custody in a two by three
metre

bunker where he was not allowed any form of writing or even allowed to
keep his

watch. He did not know whether it was night or day and was constantly
kept awake

by radio noises. When he complained, the noise only increased. There was
no

washroom in the cell. He was escorted to the toilet and locked inside.
He was

struck several times in prison. Felderer went on a hunger strike three
times

until he was finally allowed some sort of normal action. He stated that
such

treatment wasn't given to hard criminals. He had simply published things
which

were satire, but this apparently was more dangerous than if he had raped
a

thousand Swedish women. There was no proportion at all to the
punishment, and he

denounced such actions. (20-4868, 4869)

In the flyer, he had indicated that Sweden was using the same methods as
the

Soviet Union: if you could not get someone through arguments and reason,
you put

him in a mental institution and declared him insane. The author Roland
Huntford

had described [in The New Totalitarians] how Sweden was using its mental

hospitals in order to combat their alleged detractors. This method was
no

different from the Soviet Union. (20-4870)

Felderer had discussions with the staff and doctors at the hospital and
asked

them how they could justify what they did. He pointed out to them that
he had

not raped or murdered anybody, but had simply written satire which even
they

laughed at and thought was funny. (20- 4870) Felderer reiterated that
when

people could not get you by reasonable arguments, they threw you in
their

prisons and thereby thought they had won the argument.

"Well, as you can see," said Felderer, "I'm still here. I'm still alive.
I'm

still kicking. So all their terror and acts of persecution, which they
even

admitted in their letters... sometimes it works, but many times it
doesn't work,

and I think I'm a living example that it doesn't work." (20- 4868)

The Crown suggested to Felderer that he couldn't accept the fact that
the

Swedish authorities thought he was sick and needed help. Felderer
replied that

he had gone through the tests and had been found perfectly fit and sane,
which

was more than the Crown attorney could prove regarding his sanity.
(20-4871)

On re-examination, Felderer testified that these mental tests had been
made

during his trial in Sweden and that he had been found fit. (20-4868)

Felderer had not read Martin Gilbert's The Holocaust because in the last
few

years his interest in the subject had waned. He felt he had done his
work. He

had stated that if anyone found anything wrong with it, they should let
him

know. During all of these years nothing had happened. He no longer found
the

issue to be challenging. It had been confirmed for him that there were
no gas

chambers for human beings and that the buildings were faked. He wanted
to go on

to other things. Felderer didn't want to devote the rest of his life to
this

concocted trash. The earth was too beautiful for him for that. (20-4875)

Felderer testified that the photograph of fencing scenes from Auschwitz
came

from the Dürrfeld trial. It had been produced as evidence of prisoners
having

sports. (20 4875)

The CIA report The Holocaust Revisited did not give any indications of
the

qualifications of either of its authors, Poirier or Brugioni. One of the
reasons

Felderer wrote to the CIA was to attempt to determine what they were. In

Felderer's opinion, the prisoners shown in photograph 4 of the CIA
booklet were

not going to the gas chambers, as indicated by the text, but were
walking to the

Sauna. Photograph 6 showed the alleged vents in the roof of the
Leichenkeller of

Krema II, but Felderer's examination showed there were no holes in those

locations. He had written the authors of the report to ask them why
these

alleged vents could not be found in the roof today. (20-4877 to 4879)

Felderer testified that there were no photographs in the report which
indicated

that Leichenkeller II was blown up before the camp changed hands,
although this

was suggested by the text. The CIA was a secret organization with a
vested

interest in the gas chamber story, so he certainly did not believe they
would

deny it. (20-4880)

Felderer testified that politically he was totally aloof. He had never
voted for

a political party in his life and didn't intend to do so. (20-4882)

Felderer himself had received garbage and diapers at his own address
before

publishing the "Anne Frank Museum" flyer. He took it with a grain of
salt and a

smile on his face. (20-4886)

The medical examinations which he had undergone were involuntary.
(20-4886)

During the past few years, Felderer testified, he had become an
instructor of

dancing, given music lessons and sold music which he had written.
(20-4887)

1 During this testimony, defence counsel Doug Christie had to ask Judge
Thomas

to advise people in the court room to remain quiet. Thomas told the
court room

spectators that if they found the testimony "distasteful, unpleasant or

emotionally draining", they were free to leave. 2 Documents introduced
by

Browning from the National Archives of the United States all bore red
ribbons. 3

Ditlieb Felderer. Anne Frank Diary: A Hoax? (Taby: Bible Researcher,
1978)

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