No gas chamber at Dachau -Stephen F. Pinter U.S. War Department Attorney
szaki
recognition in the official Nuremberg documents, was, nevertheless,
confirmed by many prominent American officials who investigated the
problem. A typical example of this is reflected in the comments of
Stephen F. Pinter, who served as a lawyer for the War Department of the
United States in the occupation forces in Germany and Austria for six
years after the war. He made the following statement in the most widely
read American Catholic magazine, Our Sunday Visitor, for June 14, 1959:
>>>"I was in Dachau for 17 months after the war, as a U.S. War
Department Attorney, and can state that there was no gas chamber at
Dachau. What was shown to visitors and sightseers there and erroneously
described as a gas chamber was a crematory. Nor was there a gas chamber
in any of the other concentration camps in Germany. We were told that
there was a gas chamber at Auschwitz, but since that was in the Russian
zone of occupation, we were not permitted to investigate since the
Russians would not permit it. From what I was able to determine during
six postwar years in Germany and Austria, there were a number of Jews
killed, but the figure of a million was certainly never reached. I
interviewed thousands of Jews, former inmates of concentration camps in
Germany and Austria, and consider myself as well qualified as any man on
this subject."<<<<<
It is small wonder under such considerations that the Holy See has
steadfastly and consistently refused to join those who charge that
Germany practiced a deliberate policy of seeking to exterminate the
Jewish population of Europe. It was possible after Pinter departed from
Germany for Americans to visit Auschwitz, but in the meantime many years
had elapsed and there had been ample opportunity for the Communist
authorities in Poland to set the stage for such visits.
Ron Jacobson
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
Two pages of letter from Dr. Rascher to Reichsfuehrer Himmler,
suggesting to use the Dachau gassing facilities to test "combat
gases" on inmates. Page 2 contains the following:
Wie Sie wissen, wird im KL Dachau dieselbe Einricht[ung] wie
in Linz gebaut. Nachdem die "Invalidentransporte" sowieso in
bestimmten Kammern enden, frage ich, ob nicht in diesen Kammern
an den sowieso dazu bestimmten Personen die Wirkung unserer
verschiedenen Kampfgase erprobt werden kann? Bis jetzt liegen
nur Tierversuche bezw. Berichte ueber Unfaelle bei Herstellung
dieser Gase vor. Wegen dieses Absatzes schicke ich den Brief
als "Geheimsache."
[As you know, the same facility is being built at the
concentration camp Dachau as at Linz [Hartheim]. Since the
"transports of invalids" end up in certain chambers anyway, I
enquire whether in these chambers the effects of our various
combat gases cannot be tested on the persons who are destined
for it anyway. Sofar only animal tests are known, or accounts
of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these gases. Because
of this paragraph, I send this letter marked "Secret".]
</quote>
RJ.
szaki
*Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing
else about the Holocau$t!
Stephen F. Pinter, who served as a lawyer for the War Department of
the United States in the occupation forces in Germany and Austria for
six years after the war.
morghus
Here we have an excellent example of holocaust duplicity. The
holohucksters offer what purports to be a letter from a person named
Dr. Rascher as proof of some holocaust. It's typical holocaust
nonsense.
In the first place, the letter says the facilities being built at
Dachau are similar to those at Linz--"hartheim is not in the letter:
"Hartheim" is not in Linz. "Hartheim was added by the not-so-clever
holocaust translators. No one--not even the boldest holocaust
huckster--ever claimed gas chambers existed in Linz.
In the second place, Jews were excluded from Germany's euthanasia
program. So, what does a letter that suggest using incurable Germans
to test combat gases have to do with a holocaust in which Jews were the
target? The answer, of course, is nothing. The letter is totally
unrelated to the monstrous myth of mass murder of Jews during World War
II. And the letter offers no support whatever for the lie that gas
chambers existed at Dachau.
We know for a fact that no gas chambers existed at Dachau. We know that
Stephen F. Pinter, an American lawyer serving U.S.War Department, spent
a year-and-a-half at Dachau right after the war and never saw a gas
chamber there. We know that the room that the hucksters today claim to
be a gas chamber at Dachau was in fact a shower room. We know this
because a report from a post-war investigation described the room as a
shower room with ten foot ceilings and copper plumbing.
Today, after some "renovations" by the holocaust promoting
propagandists, the room's ceiling is barely seven feet from the floor,
and the copper plumbing has been removed or covered with a concrete
ceiling with false shower heads embedded in the concrete. The whole
thing is a clumsy post-war propaganda fraud, made necessary by the
complete absence of any evidence of any gas chamber at Dachau. The
stories of gassings at Dachau are lies. The Holocaust is a lie.
Gord McFee
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>Nice forgeries,
Prove it, loudmouth nazi trash.
RJ.
Ron Jacobson
morghus <mor...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>In the first place, the letter says the facilities being built at
>Dachau are similar to those at Linz--"hartheim is not in the letter:
>"Hartheim" is not in Linz.
It's very close by (about 6 miles).
>In the second place, Jews were excluded from Germany's euthanasia
>program.
But that is a truly stupid lie. Many Jews were murdered
during the euthanasia operation.
>We know for a fact that no gas chambers existed at Dachau.
We know nothing of the sort. We have a letter from a Nazi
official which proves beyond doubt that gassing installations
were being built in the camp.
>We know that Stephen F. Pinter, an American lawyer serving U.S.War
>Department, spent a year-and-a-half at Dachau right after the war
>and never saw a gas chamber there.
We know that Holocaust deniers assert that. It may be true,
it may be untrue -- after all, Holocaust deniers are the
biggest liars on the face of the earth. There is, for example,
the "Lachout document" which alleges that German POWs were
"tortured" to confess about gassings. The document proved out
to be a crude forgery. There are the recent forgeries about
the "murder" of Himmler, etc.
But, suppose this Pinter guy -- assuming he ever existed -- said
that. Is his opinion the majority opinion? And why is it more
important than the contemporaneous letter written by Rascher?
RJ.
szaki
*How should we know those documents are original, since there is so much
fraud in the Holohoax?
People can counterfeit highly secure currencies, you think your carbon
copy typed German documents can not be forged with signatures of Nazi
leaders? haha!
You're an idiot.
JS
szaki
*Forged documents by Jews, to prove the Holohoax!
Why the Allies executed most guards at Dachau imediatelly without trial?
No witnesses, stupid!
JS
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
say outside the cam entrance.
Kurt Knoll.
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
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szaki
> He does not have to poof anything just go to Dachau and read what the sign
> say outside the cam entrance.
>
> Kurt Knoll.
*Here we go!
>>>"I was in Dachau for 17 months after the war, as a U.S. War
Department Attorney, and can state that there was no gas chamber at
Dachau. What was shown to visitors and sightseers there and erroneously
described as a gas chamber was a crematory. Nor was there a gas chamber
in any of the other concentration camps in Germany. We were told that
there was a gas chamber at Auschwitz, but since that was in the Russian
zone of occupation, we were not permitted to investigate since the
Russians would not permit it. From what I was able to determine during
six postwar years in Germany and Austria, there were a number of Jews
killed, but the figure of a million was certainly never reached. I
interviewed thousands of Jews, former inmates of concentration camps in
Germany and Austria, and consider myself as well qualified as any man on
this subject."<<<<<
JS
szaki
typewrite than rubber stamped with Himmlers signature.
JS
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Two pages of letter from Dr. Rascher to Reichsfuehrer Himmler,
>>>> suggesting to use the Dachau gassing facilities to test "combat
>>>> gases" on inmates. Page 2 contains the following:
>>>>
>>>> Wie Sie wissen, wird im KL Dachau dieselbe Einricht[ung] wie
>>>> in Linz gebaut. Nachdem die "Invalidentransporte" sowieso in
>>>> bestimmten Kammern enden, frage ich, ob nicht in diesen Kammern
>>>> an den sowieso dazu bestimmten Personen die Wirkung unserer
>>>> verschiedenen Kampfgase erprobt werden kann? Bis jetzt liegen
>>>> nur Tierversuche bezw. Berichte ueber Unfaelle bei Herstellung
>>>> dieser Gase vor. Wegen dieses Absatzes schicke ich den Brief
>>>> als "Geheimsache."
>>>>
>>>> [As you know, the same facility is being built at the
>>>> concentration camp Dachau as at Linz [Hartheim]. Since the
>>>> "transports of invalids" end up in certain chambers anyway, I
>>>> enquire whether in these chambers the effects of our various
>>>> combat gases cannot be tested on the persons who are destined
>>>> for it anyway. Sofar only animal tests are known, or accounts
>>>> of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these gases. Because
>>>> of this paragraph, I send this letter marked "Secret".]
>>>>
>>>> </quote>
>How should we know those documents are original,
Because they are consistent with the rest of the evidence,
and because no one ever proved that they are forgeries.
It is Holocaust deniers who forge documents, e.g. the
"Lachout document" and the "Himmler's murder" correspondence
which recently surfaced and was immediately exposed as a
crude fake.
RJ.
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Two pages of letter from Dr. Rascher to Reichsfuehrer Himmler,
>>>> suggesting to use the Dachau gassing facilities to test "combat
>>>> gases" on inmates. Page 2 contains the following:
>>>>
>>>> Wie Sie wissen, wird im KL Dachau dieselbe Einricht[ung] wie
>>>> in Linz gebaut. Nachdem die "Invalidentransporte" sowieso in
>>>> bestimmten Kammern enden, frage ich, ob nicht in diesen Kammern
>>>> an den sowieso dazu bestimmten Personen die Wirkung unserer
>>>> verschiedenen Kampfgase erprobt werden kann? Bis jetzt liegen
>>>> nur Tierversuche bezw. Berichte ueber Unfaelle bei Herstellung
>>>> dieser Gase vor. Wegen dieses Absatzes schicke ich den Brief
>>>> als "Geheimsache."
>>>>
>>>> [As you know, the same facility is being built at the
>>>> concentration camp Dachau as at Linz [Hartheim]. Since the
>>>> "transports of invalids" end up in certain chambers anyway, I
>>>> enquire whether in these chambers the effects of our various
>>>> combat gases cannot be tested on the persons who are destined
>>>> for it anyway. Sofar only animal tests are known, or accounts
>>>> of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these gases. Because
>>>> of this paragraph, I send this letter marked "Secret".]
>>>>
>>>> </quote>
> Forged documents by Jews, to prove the Holohoax!
Prove it, loudmouth nazi moron.
> Why the Allies executed most guards at Dachau imediatelly without trial?
"most"?
> No witnesses, stupid!
So what about the Dachau trials, stupid?
Never heard of them, huh?
RJ.
Kurt Knoll
investigate some of you fabrications ? do you really believe we are stupid
enough to trust you.
Kurt Knoll.
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
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Kurt Knoll
there were never any gassings done can you deny this if so the proof it but
not with fake stories please.
Kurt Knoll.
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Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Here we go!
(snip some unauthenticated rubbish, brought to you by
Holocaust deniers -- the same people who gave you the "Lachout
document" forgery and recently the "Himmler murder" forgeries)
szaki
*Yes, Jewish evidences just showed down the throat of unwary public,
without investigation.
We have to take it as "Truth", 'cause the Jews said so.
JS
Ron Jacobson
Kurt Knoll <ram...@monarch.net> wrote:
> Really Ron was there ever a time when the Germans were allowed to
> investigate some of you fabrications ?
As a matter of fact, some of the most serious studies
of the Holocaust were the work of German historians and legal
teams.
> do you really believe we are stupid enough to trust you.
Who is "we"? Every German who posted here agrees that
you are a crazy old nazi.
RJ.
szaki
> In article <Q_W%e.45310$1i.42491@pd7tw2no>,
> Kurt Knoll <ram...@monarch.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Really Ron was there ever a time when the Germans were allowed to
>>investigate some of you fabrications ?
>
>
> As a matter of fact, some of the most serious studies
> of the Holocaust were the work of German historians and legal
> teams.
Really? Any proof? Were they German Jews?
>
>
>>do you really believe we are stupid enough to trust you.
>
>
> Who is "we"? Every German who posted here agrees that
> you are a crazy old nazi.
Really? I have not seen one, other than you and your Jewish clown gang!
JS
szaki
Ron Jew, come out of your cave, will ya!
No gas chambers were used Dachau or any other camps in German territory.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n3p-9_Staff.html
>>Wiesenthal Re-Confirms: 'No Extermination Camps on German Soil'<<
>>In a letter published in a January issue of The Stars and Stripes, a
newspaper for US military service personnel, Simon Wiesenthal
re-confirmed, in passing, that "there were no extermination camps on
German soil" during the Second World War. He made the identical
statement in a letter published in the April 1975 issue of the British
periodical Books and Bookmen.<<
JS
Kenneth McVay OBC
Can you spell "Hartheim," dimwit the szaki?
>http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n3p-9_Staff.html
> >>Wiesenthal Re-Confirms: 'No Extermination Camps on German Soil'<<
And he was right... the pure single-purpose extermination camps were elsewhere, but that
does not mean that people weren't routinely murdered in German camps, like Dachau,
Buchenwald, and others. In fact, the record makes it clear that they were.
So while he was literally correct, he was figuratively incorrect.
<yawn> http://nizkor.org/features/qar/qar03.html
--
"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> In article <Q_W%e.45310$1i.42491@pd7tw2no>,
>> Kurt Knoll <ram...@monarch.net> wrote:
>>> Really Ron was there ever a time when the Germans were allowed to
>>> investigate some of you fabrications ?
>> As a matter of fact, some of the most serious studies
>> of the Holocaust were the work of German historians and legal
>> teams.
> Really? Any proof?
Look up the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich.
> Were they German Jews?
I have no idea.
>>> do you really believe we are stupid enough to trust you.
>> Who is "we"? Every German who posted here agrees that
>> you are a crazy old nazi.
> Really? I have not seen one, other than you and your Jewish clown gang!
Check out what happens every time he crossposts to the
German groups, stupid.
RJ.
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
There were no mass extermination camps such as Treblinka etc.
on German soil. But some of the camps there had gas chambers. It
is true that these chambers were used on a scale which was rather
limited compared to the death camps built in the Nazi occupied
Poland.
RJ.
szaki
> In article <PZSdnRr4K7A...@comcast.com>,
> szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>
>
>>>In article <Q_W%e.45310$1i.42491@pd7tw2no>,
>>>Kurt Knoll <ram...@monarch.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Really Ron was there ever a time when the Germans were allowed to
>>>>investigate some of you fabrications ?
>
>
>>> As a matter of fact, some of the most serious studies
>>>of the Holocaust were the work of German historians and legal
>>>teams.
>
>
>>Really? Any proof?
>
>
> Look up the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich.
>
>
>>Were they German Jews?
>
>
> I have no idea.
*Looks like, you have no idea about any thing!
>
>
>>>>do you really believe we are stupid enough to trust you.
>
>
>>> Who is "we"? Every German who posted here agrees that
>>>you are a crazy old nazi.
>
>
>>Really? I have not seen one, other than you and your Jewish clown gang!
>
>
> Check out what happens every time he crossposts to the
> German groups, stupid.
*Stupid you!
I'm not German nor speak the language, what would I do in a German
news group?
He???
JS
szaki
*Murder and executions are two different things in legal means.
There were lot of mean inmates in those camps also.
Jewish propaganda presents these camps, as only innocent, law abiding
citizen, woman and children were in those camps.
Nazis like to kill people for fun!
Get lost, you stupid propagandist Jew, Kenneth!
JS
szaki
*Yes! Those were delousing chambers and morgues. Saved many inmates
life, by keeping the camp healthy.
Germans needed strong, healthy workers, not dead people, moron.
Even Mozes, your hero said to the Pharaoh: "dead slaves, can't make
bricks to build".
You are the most stupid person I ever met.
JS
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Yes! Those were delousing chambers and morgues. Saved many inmates
> life, by keeping the camp healthy.
"As the Zyklon B -- as already mentioned -- was in granular form, it
trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then
started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to
them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed
as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight." --
Source: testimony of former member of the SS, Hans Stark, in
the Auschwitz trial in Frankfurt, 1963-5.
> Germans needed strong, healthy workers, not dead people, moron.
Which is why, moron, Goebbels wrote the following in his diary:
"The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here
more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole
it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be
liquidated whereas only 40 per cent can be used for forced labor." --
Source: March 27 1942 entry in the diary of Joseph Goebbels, Reich
Propaganda Minister ("The Goebbels Diaries 1942-1943" -- L.P. Lochner,
Doubleday & Co., 1948, p. 147-148).
RJ.
morghus
Sure, we know about the Dachau trials. But for those readers who might
not know about those early lynching parties, the Dachau trials were
conducted by a 26-year-old New York Jew, a private in a supply company.
He nailed up a sign reading "War Crimes Trials," and began parading
Jewish witnesses before a panel of other U.S. soldiers acting as
judges. There were no rules: the accused Germans received a speedy
hanging. Here's how Ben Ferencz, the young New York Jew who prosecuted
the cases, described those post war kangaroo courts:
"I hammered up the first sign, United States Third Army War Crimes
Trials, Dachau. They were military commissions. Some Army officers
would hear the cases. They would bring in the people whom I had
indicated as the perpetrators of the crime, and the witnesses, and have
a quick trial. It didn't last more than a day or two usually. And
sentence them to something, death or a few years in prison. Some of
them were actually executed. Some of them were not. The less said about
those trials, the better."
The best thing to be said about the Dachau murders is that at least the
executioners didn't hang the victims upside down and torture them the
way they did at Nuremberg.
szaki
These confessions are all lies, you know that!
But you keep doing it Ron Jew!
You have no sense of guilt, do you!
Why would Goebbels live such an incriminating evidence?
Tell me stupid idiot?
JS
Ron Jacobson
morghus <mor...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>Sure, we know about the Dachau trials. But for those readers who might
>not know about those early lynching parties, the Dachau trials were
>conducted by a 26-year-old New York Jew, a private in a supply company.
> He nailed up a sign reading "War Crimes Trials," and began parading
>Jewish witnesses before a panel of other U.S. soldiers acting as
>judges. There were no rules: the accused Germans received a speedy
>hanging. Here's how Ben Ferencz, the young New York Jew who prosecuted
>the cases, described those post war kangaroo courts:
>
>"I hammered up the first sign, United States Third Army War Crimes
>Trials, Dachau. They were military commissions. Some Army officers
>would hear the cases. They would bring in the people whom I had
>indicated as the perpetrators of the crime, and the witnesses, and have
>a quick trial. It didn't last more than a day or two usually. And
>sentence them to something, death or a few years in prison. Some of
>them were actually executed. Some of them were not. The less said about
>those trials, the better."
Tough shit, huh?
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/jaeger-report/
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/wetzel-letter/
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/camps/belsen/index.shtml
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
http://www.chorale-populaire-de-paris.com/IMG/jpg/dachau.jpg
http://www.arory.com/Doc%20du%20mois/dachau.jpg
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
RJ.
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> Which is why, moron, Goebbels wrote the following in his diary:
>>
>> "The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here
>> more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole
>> it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be
>> liquidated whereas only 40 per cent can be used for forced labor." --
>> Source: March 27 1942 entry in the diary of Joseph Goebbels, Reich
>> Propaganda Minister ("The Goebbels Diaries 1942-1943" -- L.P. Lochner,
>> Doubleday & Co., 1948, p. 147-148).
>These confessions are all lies, you know that!
It's not a confession, actually. It's a diary.
David Irving accepts that it is genuine. How sad that
you accuse him of being a "lying Jew". Watch out -- he will
probably sue you.
RJ.
Kurt Knoll
have been dismissed from their posts. How is this for brainwashing. And if
there were any of them left and he wants to speak about in public will be
arrested and thrown into jail. How is this for freedom of expression in a
country how that is for a so called democratic.
Kurt Knoll.
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Kurt Knoll
comply they are braking the law .
Kurt Knoll.
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
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Ulrich Dröppez Kritzner
> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:06:37 GMT, "Kurt Knoll" <ram...@monarch.net>
> wrote:
>
> Gas chambers are a fact,
Beweise!
> Holocaust is a fact.
Beweise!
> Saying something else is stupid!
Jaja, alles Schlampen außer Muddi. Deiner Muddi, versteht sich.
Deine Mudder is Dein Cousin, Alder.
> EOD
Ich will aber das letzte Wort haben!!!!!!!111elf
<mit_dem_Fuß_aufstampf />
Ulrich
--
HP: http://www.droeppez.de/
Soli Deo Gloria
Ron Jacobson
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
Two pages of letter from Dr. Rascher to Reichsfuehrer Himmler,
suggesting to use the Dachau gassing facilities to test "combat
gases" on inmates. Page 2 contains the following:
Wie Sie wissen, wird im KL Dachau dieselbe Einricht[ung] wie
in Linz gebaut. Nachdem die "Invalidentransporte" sowieso in
bestimmten Kammern enden, frage ich, ob nicht in diesen Kammern
an den sowieso dazu bestimmten Personen die Wirkung unserer
verschiedenen Kampfgase erprobt werden kann? Bis jetzt liegen
nur Tierversuche bezw. Berichte ueber Unfaelle bei Herstellung
dieser Gase vor. Wegen dieses Absatzes schicke ich den Brief
als "Geheimsache."
[As you know, the same facility is being built at the
concentration camp Dachau as at Linz [Hartheim]. Since the
"transports of invalids" end up in certain chambers anyway, I
enquire whether in these chambers the effects of our various
combat gases cannot be tested on the persons who are destined
for it anyway. Sofar only animal tests are known, or accounts
of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these gases. Because
of this paragraph, I send this letter marked "Secret".]
</quote>
RJ.
bv_schornak
>For your information most German Historians who were not politically correct
>have been dismissed from their posts.
>
Actually, there's no such thing I've heard of. Can you
provide the names of them for further research?
>How is this for brainwashing.
>
Not really convincing to believe it. Proof by claiming
something is no proof at all.
>And if
>there were any of them left and he wants to speak about in public will be
>arrested and thrown into jail.
>
Not in Germany. The only thing that's forbidden is the
public agitation for violence and racism. This is for-
bidden in many other countries as well. Looking at our
history, there's no reason to blame Germany because of
such a law. It is applied to extreme leftists, as well
and has nothing to do with _scientific_ revisionism (I
think that's what you wanted to say).
>How is this for freedom of expression in a
>country how that is for a so called democratic.
>
Equal rights for everyone include equal plights to re-
spect the rights of any other person. Personal freedom
ends where it violates the personal freedom of someone
else.
Where's the problem to understand such simple rules?
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
Schorsch
bv_schornak wrote:
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> >For your information most German Historians who were not politically correct
> >have been dismissed from their posts.
> >
>
> Actually, there's no such thing I've heard of. Can you
> provide the names of them for further research?
For starters:
try Hans-Jürgen Witzsch
http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/2/Rudolf203-219.html
more on censorship and related issues:
http://vho.org/censor/D.html
>
> >How is this for brainwashing.
> >
>
> Not really convincing to believe it. Proof by claiming
> something is no proof at all.
Thats one thing we agree on. But "Re-education" should ring a bell.
> >And if
> >there were any of them left and he wants to speak about in public will be
> >arrested and thrown into jail.
> >
>
> Not in Germany. The only thing that's forbidden is the
> public agitation for violence and racism.
Well, then the "public agitation for violence and racism" is extended
to what the critical thinker dared to say.
http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/Toben.html
> This is for-
> bidden in many other countries as well. Looking at our
> history, there's no reason to blame Germany because of
> such a law. It is applied to extreme leftists, as well
> and has nothing to do with _scientific_ revisionism (I
> think that's what you wanted to say).
Now you should provide a case where it is "applied to extreme
leftists". In most countries those laws have been implemented only
recently.
>
> >How is this for freedom of expression in a
> >country how that is for a so called democratic.
> >
>
> Equal rights for everyone include equal plights to re-
> spect the rights of any other person. Personal freedom
> ends where it violates the personal freedom of someone
> else.
How does questioning the "gas chamber" in Dachau violate the personal
freedom of anybody. If that rule applies, those harrassing and
persecuting revisionists definetely exceed the limits of "personal
freedom".
steve wolk
"Schorsch" <bart...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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bv_schornak wrote:
http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/Toben.html
Thank you for failing to provide the name of a single German historian who
has been removed from his post, as was claimed by the imbecilic Knoll. It
might interest you to know that deniers, like yourself, are falsely
described by the word "revisionist". An accurate description would be
"lying Nazoid assholes". Please let me know if I may be of further
assistance.
Kurt Knoll
is a Jewish invention. Did Jews get killed sure some did and so did millions
of other innocent people. How much of the holocaust is true we do not know ,
victimizing that wand to talk openly about it make me curious. In the middle
ages people were tortured and killed for not believing in the holly ghost
believe it or not. We are not in the dark ages but you act the same way to
get what you want.
Kurt Knoll.
"karl mentner" <karl.m...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:06:37 GMT, "Kurt Knoll" <ram...@monarch.net>
> wrote:
>
> Gas chambers are a fact, Holocaust is a fact.
> Saying something else is stupid!
>
> EOD
>
> gruß
>
> karl
Kurt Knoll
ansehen.
Kurt Knoll
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"karl mentner" <karl.m...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:28:01 +0200, Ulrich Dröppez Kritzner
> <droe...@web.de> wrote:
>
> >karl mentner schrieb:
> >
> >>
> >> Gas chambers are a fact,
> >
> >Beweise!
>
> *gähn*
>
> >
> >> Holocaust is a fact.
> >
> >Beweise!
>
> Such' dir mal eben einen Remailer und behaupte das Gegenteil dann
> sehen wir weiter.
>
>
> >> Saying something else is stupid!
> >
> >Jaja, alles Schlampen außer Muddi. Deiner Muddi, versteht sich.
> >Deine Mudder is Dein Cousin, Alder.
>
> Nach ausreichender und eingehender Beschäftigung und Diskussion mit
> Kurt Knoll bin ich zu der Einsicht geraten, diesen Menschen in nahezu
> jeglicher Wortäußerung für außergewöhnlich und unveränderlich dumm zu
> halten. Eigentlich kann man auch nicht "dumm" sagen, "stupid" trifft
> es in seinem Klange viel besser. Ein Blick in's Archiv zeigt das auf,
> da ermangelt es mir nicht mehr am Gespräch über einzelne Punkte. Da
> sage ich "nein, das stimmt nicht" und gut ist. Vor allem wenn es ein
> sinnentleerter Crosspost ohne followup ist.
>
> Was du ansonsten von meiner Mutter willst, die ich immer für eine
> recht lebenslustige Frau hielt, verstehe ich in diesem Zusammenhang
> nicht.
>
>
> >
> >> EOD
> >
> >Ich will aber das letzte Wort haben!!!!!!!111elf
> ><mit_dem_Fuß_aufstampf />
>
> Meinethalben. Hauptsache ich brauch' kein weiteres Posting abzusetzen,
> wenn Knolle meint noch Gesprächsbedarf zu haben.
>
> gruß
>
> karl
Kurt Knoll
deutschenTouristen erzählen uns von einen großen Historiker Streik in
Deutschland.Wen Ihr euch so benimmt gegen alle die euer Holocaust in frage
stell kann ich nichts anderes tun ihnen zu glauben und nicht euch.
Kurt Knoll.
"bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
any questions. Also do not forget whatever the Jews or Israel want to be
done is in their power and not the Germans. Re education your way means
brainwashing.
Kurt Knoll.
"steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
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Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Schorsch wrote
in message
<1128526367.7...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>> >For your information most German Historians who were not politically correct
>> >have been dismissed from their posts.
>> Actually, there's no such thing I've heard of. Can you
>> provide the names of them for further research?
>For starters:
>try Hans-Jürgen Witzsch
>http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/2/Rudolf203-219.html
Who is referred to as a "History teacher."
You *do* know that this is different than an historian, don't you?
>more on censorship and related issues:
>http://vho.org/censor/D.html
Issues like ger-joe's frivolous appeal of immigration law, which he
seems the feel he should be entitled to break?
>> >How is this for brainwashing.
>> Not really convincing to believe it. Proof by claiming
>> something is no proof at all.
>Thats one thing we agree on.
So far, that's all that's been offered.
>But "Re-education" should ring a bell.
>> >And if
>> >there were any of them left and he wants to speak about in public will be
>> >arrested and thrown into jail.
>> Not in Germany. The only thing that's forbidden is the
>> public agitation for violence and racism.
>Well, then the "public agitation for violence and racism" is extended
>to what the critical thinker dared to say.
>
>http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/Toben.html
This is an article about toben, not a critical thinker.
>> This is for-
>> bidden in many other countries as well. Looking at our
>> history, there's no reason to blame Germany because of
>> such a law. It is applied to extreme leftists, as well
>> and has nothing to do with _scientific_ revisionism (I
>> think that's what you wanted to say).
>Now you should provide a case where it is "applied to extreme
>leftists". In most countries those laws have been implemented only
>recently.
Right after you finally come up with a German historian ho has been
dismissed from his post.
>> >How is this for freedom of expression in a
>> >country how that is for a so called democratic.
>> Equal rights for everyone include equal plights to re-
>> spect the rights of any other person. Personal freedom
>> ends where it violates the personal freedom of someone
>> else.
>How does questioning the "gas chamber" in Dachau violate the personal
>freedom of anybody. If that rule applies, those harrassing and
>persecuting revisionists definetely exceed the limits of "personal
>freedom".
Because Holocaust denial exists to rehabilitate National Socialism.
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>
>>>For your information most German Historians who were not politically correct
>>>have been dismissed from their posts.
>>>
>>>
>>Actually, there's no such thing I've heard of. Can you
>>provide the names of them for further research?
>>
>
>For starters:
>try Hans-Jürgen Witzsch
>http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/2/Rudolf203-219.html
>more on censorship and related issues:
>http://vho.org/censor/D.html
>
Witzsch was sentenced to three month in prison plus an additional 4
month penalty from a suspended sentence. A man of his age - who was
sentenced twice for similar crimes - should have learned not to re-
peat such a stupid thing again, right? Back in 1933 - 1945 he would
have been executed for that. Do you think it's a better treatment?
My personal opinion about censorship: As long as someone denies the
historical facts, s/he should be allowed to do so. Since the claims
are not really smart, everyone can chose to believe in them or not.
On the other hand, the agitation for racism and violence isn't what
I expect to be a proper thing to do. If it goes too far, it must be
punished because this has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs, it
is an attempt to deny other people's rights.
>>>How is this for brainwashing.
>>>
>>>
>>Not really convincing to believe it. Proof by claiming
>>something is no proof at all.
>>
>
>Thats one thing we agree on. But "Re-education" should ring a bell.
>
Can you provide proof for every document and testimony to be false?
Maybe for one, ten, hundred - but never for the tons of material we
have. That's just denying scientific facts - like Creationists deny
facts verifying evolution (kind of closing your eyes and pretending
no one can see you as long as you don't see anyone...).
Another question: Who cares if all the stories were lies? All these
things are history and can't be undone today. What would change, if
you were right and all historians of the world were wrong? Nothing,
except the world's print industries would make huge profits because
we need new history books. What's your and my benefit? Zero...
>>>And if
>>>there were any of them left and he wants to speak about in public will be
>>>arrested and thrown into jail.
>>>
>>>
>>Not in Germany. The only thing that's forbidden is the
>>public agitation for violence and racism.
>>
>
>Well, then the "public agitation for violence and racism" is extended
>to what the critical thinker dared to say.
>
>http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/Toben.html
>
My second name is Mr. Sceptic, you know. Mr. Toben is someone who's
spreading racism on a larger scale (see some other discussions with
Kurt).
>>This is for-
>>bidden in many other countries as well. Looking at our
>>history, there's no reason to blame Germany because of
>>such a law. It is applied to extreme leftists, as well
>>and has nothing to do with _scientific_ revisionism (I
>>think that's what you wanted to say).
>>
>>
>
>Now you should provide a case where it is "applied to extreme
>leftists". In most countries those laws have been implemented only
>recently.
>
Just have a look at your own link:
<http://vho.org/censor/D.html>
There is a table in German, English and Italian, showing the amount
of persecutions of Rightists, Leftists and "Foreigners". One of the
most popular _leftist_ prisoners was Horst Mahler - you surely know
the guy as a rightist today (at least, he stayed extreme...).
>>>How is this for freedom of expression in a
>>>country how that is for a so called democratic.
>>>
>>>
>>Equal rights for everyone include equal plights to re-
>>spect the rights of any other person. Personal freedom
>>ends where it violates the personal freedom of someone
>>else.
>>
>
>How does questioning the "gas chamber" in Dachau violate the personal
>freedom of anybody. If that rule applies, those harrassing and
>persecuting revisionists definetely exceed the limits of "personal
>freedom".
>
We all know there were no gas chambers in Dachau (I have been there
two or three times). They tested some stuff there in a small scale,
but never performed "industrialised" gassings like in Auschwitz. To
deny gassings in Dachau is like calling a black car a black car. No
one is persecuted for telling the truth.
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
the holocaust unless he is a supporter of your holocaust saga. Who are you
and the people you represent to dictate to whole nation what they do have to
believe in and what the cans say you are nothing but a symbol of falsehood
who believes a whole nation should be under a gagorter or lets call it
"Einen Maulkorb"
Kurt Knoll.
"bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
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Emil Müller
> historical facts, s/he should be allowed to do so. Since the claims
> are not really smart, everyone can chose to believe in them or not.
> On the other hand, the agitation for racism and violence isn't what
> I expect to be a proper thing to do. If it goes too far, it must be
> punished because this has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs, it
> is an attempt to deny other people's rights.
>
What are "historical facts" for one may be bullshit or propaganda for
someone else.
em
phil...@aol.com
Only for an intellectual know-nothing who thinks facts are a matter of
opinion.
--
Philip Mathews
Kurt Knoll
it or you get intimidated you query jus on part of it and the call you a
holocaust denier. If it is about historians only theirs will qualify. If
there is one historian who does no confirm to their standard he will
definitely see them try anything to disqualify him by any means they can
find. This is worse than middle ages it is an inquisition.
Kurt Knoll
"Emil Müller" <emil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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bv_schornak
>That is you opinion basically you do not want anyone to have a onion about
>the holocaust unless he is a supporter of your holocaust saga.
>
Nope, Kurt. You may believe in what you want, but as it is with every
credo - please do not expect that you can baptise too much people and
turn them into "true believers". I don't believe in a flat earth, why
should I believe in urban legends or religions?
>Who are you
>and the people you represent to dictate to whole nation what they do have to
>believe in and what the cans say you are nothing but a symbol of falsehood
>who believes a whole nation should be under a gagorter or lets call it
>"Einen Maulkorb"
>
Once more - I don't support suppression of opinions, but I _strictly_
support the prosecution of people who agitate for racism or violence.
That's just one step away from crimes, so it is nothing a sane person
should support.
bv_schornak
>Ich lebe etliche tausente kilometer von Deutschland entfernt. Aber die
>deutschenTouristen erzählen uns von einen großen Historiker Streik in
>Deutschland.Wen Ihr euch so benimmt gegen alle die euer Holocaust in frage
>stell kann ich nichts anderes tun ihnen zu glauben und nicht euch.
>
Vor Ort kann ich von einem Historiker-Streit nicht viel sehen.
Schau mal nach d.s.g, da müssten sich die ganzen Historiker ja
regelrechte Schlachten liefern, wenn das so wäre.
Warum sollte man Dinge in Frage stellen, die mit Millionen von
Beweisen belegt sind? Wenn jemand ein paar von den Beweisen zu
Falsifikaten erklärt, dann bedeutet das noch lange nicht, dass
es wirklich Falsifikate sind - das könnten nur Fachleute nach-
prüfen. Nahezu alle Beweismittel sind aber verifiziert und von
Wissenschaftlern für echt befunden worden, so dass daran nicht
viel herumgedeutet werden kann. Ohne Gegenbeweis oder Nachweis
einer Fälschung bleibt das alles ein Glaubensbekenntnis...
Grüsse aus Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>My personal opinion about censorship: As long as someone denies the
>>historical facts, s/he should be allowed to do so. Since the claims
>>are not really smart, everyone can chose to believe in them or not.
>>On the other hand, the agitation for racism and violence isn't what
>>I expect to be a proper thing to do. If it goes too far, it must be
>>punished because this has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs, it
>>is an attempt to deny other people's rights.
>>
>What are "historical facts" for one may be bullshit or propaganda for
>someone else.
>
If it is propaganda, then it isn't _scientific_ history. There
are strict rules for scientific work - private opinion and po-
itical views have to stay outside of science.
Emil Müller
Du meinst also mit anderen Worten:
Die Propaganda der Siegermaechte waehrend des Krieges war nichts als die
reine Wahrheit und wissenschaftlich erwiesene Geschichte (scientific
history).
Nun ja, das sagten die Siegermaechte und gewisse deutsche Kreise die sich
mit ihnen nach dem Krieg aliiert ja auch.
Kurt Knoll
other worshiping a stone wall or pissing on it makes no difference to me.
Mind control does not work on me simply I do not trust anyone who does not
want me to compare other peoples views. Lets consider this do you believe
the Germans killed 2000 Jews including gassing stealing their hear and
cremating it only took 4 hours. In Mauthausen they say the Germans gassed
the prisoners in an open railcar I just wonder how the did get to the
crematorium. If want more of you holohoax fabrication I be willing to supply
you with it or give you a link to it. Some of the survivors of mauthausen
claimed the Germans cut the prisoners into peaces and dumped the in the
manholes of the drainage system.
Kurt Knoll.
"bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
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Steve Wolk
"Kurt Knoll" <ram...@monarch.net> wrote in message
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> I do not want to baptize anyone as far as I am concerned they can screw
each
> other worshiping a stone wall or pissing on it makes no difference to me.
> Mind control does not work on me
Or anyone else without a mind.
Ulrich Dröppez Kritzner
Na wie war denn das nun? Irgendwer hat doch behauptet, die Kammer in Dachau
sei nie wirklich in Betrieb gewesen. Und was für eine Einrichtung war denn
genau in Linz? Gibt's da noch Überreste von? Wurden da Photos gemacht? Kann
man das chemisch untersuchen? Hat man das schon gemacht?
Kurt Knoll
Dachau jetzt eine Tafel steht die sagt das in Dachau keine Versagungen
ausgeführt wurden. Ron dieser Hirnochse wird uns immer das Gegenteil sagen
obwohl ihn keiner glaubt. Es scheint bei ihm eine jüdische Krankheit zu
sein. Ob Ron Jakobson reinen richtigen Nahmen verwendet ist mir Zweifelhaft.
Kurt Knoll
Kanada
"Ulrich Dröppez Kritzner" <droe...@web.de> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"Steve Wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
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Ron Jacobson
Kurt Knoll <ram...@monarch.net> wrote:
(snip)
>"Ulrich Dröppez Kritzner" <droe...@web.de> wrote in message
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(snip)
English, folks (yes Kurt, I know you've only been
in Canada 40 years -- but do try).
RJ.
kilgore trout
believe tha the Holocaust is a bunch of nonsense.
Why are your legislators so afraid of people who
think "outside of the box"? This is surely a
violation of MY Rights.
"Ich kann nicht anders"
bv_schornak
>I do not want to baptize anyone as far as I am concerned they can screw each
>other worshiping a stone wall or pissing on it makes no difference to me.
>
If someone believes in such rituals - why not... :)
>Mind control does not work on me simply I do not trust anyone who does not
>want me to compare other peoples views. Lets consider this do you believe
>the Germans killed 2000 Jews including gassing stealing their hear and
>cremating it only took 4 hours.
>
That's what the SS men working there claimed themselves. Together
with the corresponding documents it is reasonable to take this as
a fact. You surely know the lists of materials delivered to those
KZs, the reports mentioning the average "cremation rate", etc.? I
think that's evidence enough to prove that all those people did't
disappear into the great wide open (except through a bone mill).
>In Mauthausen they say the Germans gassed
>the prisoners in an open railcar I just wonder how the did get to the
>crematorium. If want more of you holohoax fabrication I be willing to supply
>you with it or give you a link to it. Some of the survivors of mauthausen
>claimed the Germans cut the prisoners into peaces and dumped the in the
>manholes of the drainage system.
>
There are several Nazi documents about these cars, that is: These
cars _did_ exist and they _were_ used to gas people. The question
how they got rid of the dead bodies is a logistic problem, it has
nothing to do with the well documented gassing itself - as far as
it is mentioned on the site below, there were crematories in both
KZs. It surely was no problem to cremate the 30 or 40 dead bodies
after they were gassed.
Here's the official site of Mauthausen-Gusen
<http://www.gusen.org/index.htm>.
Would you be so kind to tell me which page mentions that "cutting
into peaces" stuff?
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Emil Müller wrote:
>>
>>>bv_schornak wrote:
>>>
>>>>My personal opinion about censorship: As long as someone denies the
>>>>historical facts, s/he should be allowed to do so. Since the claims
>>>>are not really smart, everyone can chose to believe in them or not.
>>>>On the other hand, the agitation for racism and violence isn't what
>>>>I expect to be a proper thing to do. If it goes too far, it must be
>>>>punished because this has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs, it
>>>>is an attempt to deny other people's rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What are "historical facts" for one may be bullshit or propaganda for
>>>someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>If it is propaganda, then it isn't _scientific_ history. There
>>are strict rules for scientific work - private opinion and po-
>>litical views have to stay outside of science.
>>
>
>Du meinst also mit anderen Worten:
>Die Propaganda der Siegermaechte waehrend des Krieges war nichts als die
>reine Wahrheit und wissenschaftlich erwiesene Geschichte (scientific
>history).
>
Lies mal auf was Du gerade geantwortet hast.
>Nun ja, das sagten die Siegermaechte und gewisse deutsche Kreise die sich
>mit ihnen nach dem Krieg aliiert ja auch.
>
Wahrscheinlich haben diese gewissen deutschen Kreise die "Errungenschaften"
der nationalsozialistischen Diktatur am eigenen Leib zu spüren bekommen und
hatten davon die Schnauze gestrichen voll. Wer im Krieg gelebt hat und kein
150 %-iger Nazi war hat selbst miterlebt, wie wahr oder falsch diese angeb-
liche "Alliiertenpropaganda" war. Ich kenne - bzw. kannte - genug Menschen,
die Dinge berichtet haben bei denen es einem die Haare aufstellt. Bevor ich
irgendwelchen nicht nachprüfbaren Geschichten glaube verlasse ich mich doch
lieber auf Augenzeugenberichte mir bekannter Deutscher. Nicht alle Menschen
im Dritten Reich waren von Hitler's Taten begeistert, die meisten haben nur
den Mund gehalte weil sie an ihrem Leben hingen - nicht weil sie alles toll
fanden. Wenn dieses Regime mit den angehörigen der eigenen "Rasse" schon so
umspringt wird es mit den Angehörigen aller als "minderwertig" deklarierten
"Rassen" bestimmt nicht milder umgehen.
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
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Kurt Knoll
floor higher to the crematorium. Have you got any idea how long this would
take.
Kurt Knoll.
"bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
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Kurt Knoll
deutschen die alliierten geliebt und Hitler gehaßt. Zuerst kamst du hier an
als unwissender und jetzt schreibst du dazu noch auf Englisch ich glaube du
hast es Faust dick hinter den Ohren.
Kurt Knoll.
"bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
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Emil Müller
Wir tauschen auf dieser ng persoenliche Ansichten und Meinungen aus.
Wir betreiben keine "wissenschaftliche Geschichte" oder argumentieren vor
einem Gericht.
Nach dem Zusammenbruch gab es in D. unverschaemte Chancen sich eine Karriere
in der Politik aufzubauen. Das wurde mir auch geraten. ich hatte mich dann
aber fuer einen technischen Beruf entschieden.
bv_schornak
> But I choose to be stupid and obtuse. I choose to believe tha the
> Holocaust is a bunch of nonsense. Why are your legislators so afraid
> of people who think "outside of the box"? This is surely a violation
> of MY Rights.
> "Ich kann nicht anders"
No one should deny anyone's beliefs, that's why I am against the
extensions in § 130. But: I support the original version of this
law, because agitation for racism and violence has nothing to do
with democracy - they want to replace democracy with suppression
and dictatorship. And that's what Germans don't want to repeat a
third time. One Third Reich and one GDR were enough to cure this
disease...
Patrick Kursawe
> Wir tauschen auf dieser ng persoenliche Ansichten und Meinungen aus.
> Wir betreiben keine "wissenschaftliche Geschichte" oder argumentieren vor
> einem Gericht.
Wieso postest Du dann de.sci.geschichte?
F'up2 de.soc.politik.misc gesetzt.
Tschüs,
Patrick
bv_schornak
>Give yourself a break they also claim the bodies were transported up one
>floor higher to the crematorium. Have you got any idea how long this would
>take.
>
There was an elevator. Don't know about the costruction details, but
if it was a "Pater Noster", the transport wa no problem at all. Per-
haps you do a search for "Topf & Söhne", the company was responsible
for the construction and inventory of the destruction facilities.
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
bv_schornak
>Ja und nach jeden bomben angriff auf die deutsche Bevölkerung haben die
>deutschen die alliierten geliebt und Hitler gehaßt.
>
Dass sie Hitler nach jedem weiteren Bombenangriff und jede Woche
noch ein bisschen mehr gehasst haben, das weiss ich. Dass Bomben
zum Krieg gehören, das hat man auch gewusst. Die Beliebtheit der
Aliierten hat zum Ende des Krieges hin zugenommen, da kaum einer
der Deutschen mehr Hitler's Parolen vom "Endsieg" ernst genommen
hat. Jeder wusste, dass mit jedem weiteren Tag nur noch mehr ihr
Leben für eine verlorene Sache lassen müssen - die meisten waren
wirklich froh, wenn die Kampfhandlungen zuende waren und endlich
Ruhe einkehrte. Nur Hitler hat es bis um bitteren Ende nicht be-
griffen...
>Zuerst kamst du hier an
>als unwissender und jetzt schreibst du dazu noch auf Englisch ich glaube du
>hast es Faust dick hinter den Ohren.
>
Ich habe früher nur in englischsprachigen NGs gepostet, um meine
Englischkenntnisse etwas zu verbessern. Ich vertrete immer meine
eigene Überzeugung, das ist nun einmal so. Es ist merkwürdig wie
Deine Reaktion der einiger Israelis gleicht, mit denen ich schon
das Vergnügen hatte über ihre nette "Verteidigungsmauer" zu dis-
kutieren. Irgendwie sind immer die Anderen die Bösen... ;)
Grüsse aus Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
bv_schornak
>Wir tauschen auf dieser ng persoenliche Ansichten und Meinungen aus.
>Wir betreiben keine "wissenschaftliche Geschichte" oder argumentieren vor
>einem Gericht.
>
Okay. Das hat weder mit Geschichte noch mit Recht etwas zu tun, daher
habe ich die zwei entsprechenden NGs entfernt. Wenn Du an einer wirk-
lichen _historischen_ Aufklärung kein Interesse hast, dann wundert es
mich, warum Du auf meine Postings antwortest... :)
>Nach dem Zusammenbruch gab es in D. unverschaemte Chancen sich eine Karriere
>in der Politik aufzubauen. Das wurde mir auch geraten. ich hatte mich dann
>aber fuer einen technischen Beruf entschieden.
>
Ich bin Ende 1956 geboren, das muss vor meiner Zeit gewesen sein. Die
Situation war damals reichlich bescheiden, da ausser den "nationalen"
Politikern keine anderen mehr im Land waren. Da war Nachwuchs gefragt
der nicht "vorbelastet" war - die Aliierten haben massiv eingegriffen
wenn jemand eine "braune Vergangenheit" hatte (was ich im Prinzip für
okay halte, auch wenn's manchmal zu recht abenteuerlichen Situationen
kam über die man durchaus streiten kann).
Zum Politiker muss man geboren sein, das kann nicht jeder werden. Ein
dickes Fell, Wortgewandheit und Taktieren gehören ebenso dazu wie die
Fähigkeit, Kompromisse zu schliessen. Zudem muss man wohl recht rigo-
ros sein, wenn man mehr als ein Abgeordneter in einer Gemeinde werden
will. Nicht mein Ding, da geht es mir so wie Dir...
Emil Müller
> Emil Müller schrieb:
>
>>
>>Wir tauschen auf dieser ng persoenliche Ansichten und Meinungen aus.
>>Wir betreiben keine "wissenschaftliche Geschichte" oder argumentieren vor
>>einem Gericht.
>>
>
> Okay. Das hat weder mit Geschichte noch mit Recht etwas zu tun, daher
> habe ich die zwei entsprechenden NGs entfernt. Wenn Du an einer wirk-
> lichen _historischen_ Aufklärung kein Interesse hast, dann wundert es
> mich, warum Du auf meine Postings antwortest... :)
>
"historische Aufklaerung"? Was ist denn das nun wieder? Hat das was mit der
deutschen Umerziehung zu tun?
Nein, vielen Dank! Kein Intresse!
em
h.habiger
Mit Politik hat es auch nix zu tun ... sdarum ab in die Mottenkiste
Ron Jacobson
bv_schornak <now...@schornak.de> wrote:
>Kurt Knoll wrote:
>> Give yourself a break they also claim the bodies were transported up one
>> floor higher to the crematorium. Have you got any idea how long this would
>> take.
> There was an elevator.
Kurt is confusing Dachau and Auschwitz. He's not too bright,
you know.
RJ.
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>
>>>Give yourself a break they also claim the bodies were transported up one
>>>floor higher to the crematorium. Have you got any idea how long this would
>>>take.
>>>
>>There was an elevator.
>>
>
> Kurt is confusing Dachau and Auschwitz. He's not too bright,
>you know.
>
Never mind. Even if I disagree with a lot of Kurt's statements,
I do respect his experience and his age - I hope I get that old
and stay mentally healthy like Kurt does.
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
P.S.: I removed two NGs where this stuff is OT.
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Emil Müller schrieb:
>>
>>>Wir tauschen auf dieser ng persoenliche Ansichten und Meinungen aus.
>>>Wir betreiben keine "wissenschaftliche Geschichte" oder argumentieren vor
>>>einem Gericht.
>>>
>>>
>>Okay. Das hat weder mit Geschichte noch mit Recht etwas zu tun, daher
>>habe ich die zwei entsprechenden NGs entfernt. Wenn Du an einer wirk-
>>lichen _historischen_ Aufklärung kein Interesse hast, dann wundert es
>>mich, warum Du auf meine Postings antwortest... :)
>>
>
>"historische Aufklaerung"? Was ist denn das nun wieder? Hat das was mit der
>deutschen Umerziehung zu tun?
>Nein, vielen Dank! Kein Intresse!
>
Da schiesst Du Dir jetzt aber selbst ins Knie:
"historische Aufklärung" = wissenschaftlicher Revisionismus... :)
Ron Jacobson
bv_schornak <now...@schornak.de> wrote:
> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> Kurt is confusing Dachau and Auschwitz. He's not too bright,
>> you know.
> Never mind. Even if I disagree with a lot of Kurt's statements,
> I do respect his experience and his age -
Why?
> I hope I get that old
> and stay mentally healthy like Kurt does.
Kurt "mentally healthy"?
RJ.
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>
>>>Kurt is confusing Dachau and Auschwitz. He's not too bright,
>>>you know.
>>>
>
>>Never mind. Even if I disagree with a lot of Kurt's statements,
>>I do respect his experience and his age -
>>
>
> Why?
>
Because he is a human being like you and me?
>>I hope I get that old
>>and stay mentally healthy like Kurt does.
>>
>
> Kurt "mentally healthy"?
>
I don't think he's insane. The older, the more weird. Will apply
to you or me as well (if we reach that age)... :)
Ron Jacobson
bv_schornak <now...@schornak.de> wrote:
> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>> Never mind. Even if I disagree with a lot of Kurt's statements,
>>> I do respect his experience and his age -
>> Why?
> Because he is a human being like you and me?
And like Joseph Goebbels?
>>> I hope I get that old
>>> and stay mentally healthy like Kurt does.
>> Kurt "mentally healthy"?
> I don't think he's insane. The older, the more weird. Will apply
> to you or me as well (if we reach that age)... :)
I hope we do, and in better condition than Kurt...
RJ.
bv_schornak
>bv_schornak wrote:
>
>>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>
>>>>Never mind. Even if I disagree with a lot of Kurt's statements,
>>>>I do respect his experience and his age -
>>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>Because he is a human being like you and me?
>>
>
>And like Joseph Goebbels?
>
It's obvious that he was a member of our species. Even if he was one
of the most disgusting criminals in history, we should never deny he
was a human being.
>>>>I hope I get that old
>>>>and stay mentally healthy like Kurt does.
>>>>
>>> Kurt "mentally healthy"?
>>>
>>>
>>I don't think he's insane. The older, the more weird. Will apply
>>to you or me as well (if we reach that age)... :)
>>
>
> I hope we do, and in better condition than Kurt...
>
That's something I can agree with! :)
Kurt Knoll
will outlive you
Kurt .
"Ron Jacobson" <rj...@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:di888o$o5o$1...@pcls4.std.com...
szaki
>
>>Emil MŘller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>bv_schornak wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My personal opinion about censorship: As long as someone denies the
>>>>historical facts, s/he should be allowed to do so. Since the claims
>>>>are not really smart, everyone can chose to believe in them or not.
>>>>On the other hand, the agitation for racism and violence isn't what
>>>>I expect to be a proper thing to do. If it goes too far, it must be
>>>>punished because this has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs, it
>>>>is an attempt to deny other people's rights.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What are "historical facts" for one may be bullshit or propaganda for
>>>someone else.
>>>
>>
>>If it is propaganda, then it isn't _scientific_ history. There
>>are strict rules for scientific work - private opinion and po-
>>
>>
>>
>>Bernhard Schornak
>>
>
>
> Die Propaganda der Siegermaechte waehrend des Krieges war nichts als die
> reine Wahrheit und wissenschaftlich erwiesene Geschichte (scientific
> history).
>
> mit ihnen nach dem Krieg aliiert ja auch.
>
>
JS
h.habiger
>
> Emil Müller wrote:
> > "bv_schornak" <now...@schornak.de> wrote in message
> > news:di3eot$ve1$02$1...@news.t-online.com...
> >
Fick dich Engländer
bv_schornak
> *Speak English!
3 DE groups vs. 1 ALT => German?
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
P.S.: 2 DE groups removed because the topic is OT there.
h.habiger
Und da das ganze so wie so müll ist ...hast du das hier auch gleich zurück
NAZiFUCKER
Ron Jacobson
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Speak English!
And that would help you just how, you illiterate slimebucket?
RJ.
szaki
Jew Jacobson puking his poison out.
Use a napkin next time, you ignorant moron.
JS
Kenneth McVay OBC
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]
>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
>*Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing
>else about the Holocau$t!
Question 1:
-----------
On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
"Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been
presented, the most extreme estimates by Yad Vashem and others say that
between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by
the special action units."
"This figure is without doubt a gross exaggeration, considering that the
Einsatzgruppen never had more than 3,000 men in total serving in its units
at any one time, and furthermore spent most of their time fighting
partisans."
"But even if this grossly exaggerated figure is accurate - and all evidence
is that it is not - this grandiose figure is still nowhere near the 5
million Jews the Nazis estimated were in the Soviet Union's territory."
(Szaki, UseNet alt.revisionism, Message ID
6oadnbn35bI...@comcast.com)
Please document your claim that the figure 1.2 million is a gross exaggeration,
and then produce the "all evidence" mentioned in your third paragraph.
Include the name of publications containing this "all evidence,", the pages
upon which this "all evidence" can be found, the publisher and publication
date, and the author's name.
Question 2:
-----------
On June 15, 2005, in response to the publication of document PS-2615 (First
Nurnberg Tribunal), in which Wilhelm Hoettl explained that he had been
told that 6 million Jews had died, you wrote:
"Sworn testimony, after torture! Nice try, moron!" (Szaki. UseNet alt.revisionism,
Message ID X46dneLExIw...@comcast.com)
Please provide evidence that Herr Hoettl was, in fact, tortured.
Question 3:
-----------
In article <H_ednTvq-ow...@comcast.com>, on June 18, 2005, you
asserted that Sgt. Ragene Farris, who served in the 329th Medical Battalion and
described the horrors American troops had to face during the liberation of
the "Boelcke Kazerne" in Nordhausen concentration camp provided a fictional
account. You wrote:
"Thank you JJ, this story of courage of Sergeant Ragene Farris really made me
cry, very nice, heart breaking fictional tale."
Please provide documentary evidence which proves that condtions were not
as Sgt. Farris described them.
Question 4:
-----------
On August 19, 2005, in article <Y96dncUsaKZ...@comcast.com>, you wrote:
"Why don't you talk about your stupid, boring, Nizkor website, all the
cut/paste, fake stories and pictures."
Which pictures and stories, precisely, are "fake?" Please provide your evidence
that specific pictures and/or stories are fake.
Question 5:
-----------
On September 24th, 2005, you wrote:
In article <c6CdnT3t1OG...@comcast.com>,
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nca/ftp.py?imt/nca/nca-05/nca-05-2615-ps
>*You're using Nizkor fake information, Brum-Brum-Bruno!
Please produce documentary evidence that Hoettl's sworn statement, which
constituted document 2615-PS for the First Nurnberg Tribunal, is "fake
information."
Please demonstrate, again with documentary evidence, that Nizkor's copy of
this document is not an textually exact rendering of 2615-PS.
Question 6:
-----------
On October 1, 2005, you wrote the following of the statement of Dr. Sigmund Rascher:
In article <l7-dnYrjiL4...@comcast.com>,
szaki <sza...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ron Jacobson wrote:
>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher1.jpg
>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?people/r/rascher.sigmund//images/Rascher2.jpg
[...]
>*Nice forgeries, like the 4 million death at Auschwitz and any thing
>else about the Holocau$t!
Please produce documented evidence that the Rascher statement, as shown on
two Nizkor Project images, are forgeries.
Please list the Western historians who cited the 4-Million figure as valid.
Question 7
----------
On October 2, 2005, in article <Y4ednUtIMOd...@comcast.com>,
you made the following claim:
"First, EG report was way inflated about numbers executed. EG all ways
reported at least twice as much back to Germany, to make them self look
good"
Please produce documented evidence that the Einsatzgruppen reports used inflated numbers.
Cite the name of the report in question, and document your claim with respect to that
report.
--
"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.vex.net/~nizkor
Doc Tavish
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
Speaking of coward attorneys!
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7771395b27c10fe6
Subject: Why Does Sara Salzman Keep Evading The Real Reason Yale F. Edeiken Went
Into Hiding? aka Re: BLTN: Bradbury Lacking Twin Neurons V2.0 T_0802
Message-ID: <53b0f1d2m70eln84u...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Aug 2005 02:47:09 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58210ba65c45c1aa
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal. (Updated Links) V2-0
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Message-ID: <it34c154u8rau67d3...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2005 03:53:01 GMT
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Why is it none of my foes wants to discuss why Yale F. Edeiken dropped his
appeal and went into hiding rather than having his alleged "Findings of Fact"
go back before the judge!? I was more than willing BUT he went into hiding
and hasn't been heard from since though he "speaks" through his numerous
cretinous supporters who approve of his criminal behavior!
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Yale knew his forgeries and perjury were about to be exposed! That is why he
fled from getting justice like the coward he truly is!
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/56a1a43fe4f9d61d?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V3-2 T_0929
Message-ID: <ot1oj19c03emm99l0...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Sep 2005 15:34:29 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts? aka Re: Why won't Sara Salzman respond to
her challenge being met by proof being provided? V2.0 T_0931
Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/37518764fff1a83c?fwc=1
Subject: The "RETURN TO STALKER" Myth Debunked V3.0 T_1002
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:40:14 -0500
Message-ID: <kluvj1t2i5754obha...@4ax.com>
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2231c59be0f8464b
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V4-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <ag63f19prg9qhbmh4...@4ax.com>
Date: 4 Aug 2005 04:38:56 GMT
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Attorney Inquiry:
ID Last First Middle City Status
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40290 Edeiken Yale F. Allentown INACTIVE <-------!
3102 Miller XXXX Arthur Philadelphia DECEASED
X7XXX Miller Adrienne XXXXX XXXXXX ACTIVE
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Proof Shyster Yale F. Edeiken is now "INACTIVE." Here is what the Pennsylvania
State Supreme Court Attorney Registration shows:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/office_of_sec.html
"The Office of the Secretary serves as the Controller, Personnel/Administrative
Office, Attorney Registration Office, Prothonotary and Secretary of the Board,
and is Liaison between the Supreme Court, the Board, the Hearing Committees, and
the Office of Disciplinary Counsel." At the web page you are given these links:
Pennsylvania Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/pa_attorney.html
Disciplined Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/disciplined_attorneys.html
Click that top link and enter in Yale's Supreme Court ID: 40290 and you will
get:
Attorney Inquiry
ID Last First Middle City Status
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40290 Edeiken Yale F. Allentown INACTIVE Discipline
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attsearchdc2.php?ss=40290&st=Attorney_ID&Submit=Submit
(Archived locally as: TubbyIsINACTIVE)
Click "Discipline" <http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdc.php?id=40290> and
you will get:
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Case County District Censured ... Comment
122 DB 95 Lehigh II 04/20/1998 Administered 10/20/98
(Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
For full details on Yale's Discipline read:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2231c59be0f8464b
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V4-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <ag63f19prg9qhbmh4...@4ax.com>
Yale tried to act like he was associated with Paul Trainor and Todd Miller and
they both show "ACTIVE" and no "Discipline" shows up when links are queried!
ID Last First Middle City Status
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21242 Miller Todd Stuart Allentown ACTIVE Discipline
35627 Trainor Paul E. Allentown ACTIVE Discipline
Yale F. Edeiken Esq. of Allentown, Pennsylvania- Supreme Court
ID# 40290 has falsely asserted he was associated with the two law firms
mentioned below-- Todd Miller & Associates and Trainor Law Offices. Both law
firms told me first hand that Yale F. Edeiken was never an attorney at their
firms!! That is fact! (Archived locally as: YaleTheNut)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/79dab24b047e1e68
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
Message-ID: <SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT
Defendant Bradshit <rdoc_...@my-deja.cpm, tavi...@ix.netcom,com> wrote
in message news:7lp1otkrsh37k7ioi...@4ax.com...
> Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller and Paul Trainor distanced
> themselves from you
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
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LOL
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Doc Tavish wrote
in message <lns1l1hm43akkbkg9...@4ax.com>:
>On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:41 -0000, <11kvkfh...@corp.supernews.com>
>kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>Speaking of coward attorneys!
The Chief Instigator
>On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:41 -0000, <11kvkfh...@corp.supernews.com>
>kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>Speaking of coward attorneys!
Yeah, what happened to Daylin Leach, anyway?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3. Grand Rapids 1 (October 15)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, October 18 at Omaha, 7:05
Sara Salzman
The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>
> >On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:41 -0000, <11kvkfh...@corp.supernews.com>
> >kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >Speaking of coward attorneys!
>
> Yeah, what happened to Daylin Leach, anyway?
Well, he had to remove his online blog because it contained racist and
sexist "jokes," and he's been the laughing stock of PA politics.
Sara
--
The Jews may think all people are stupid when I reality the are watch ever
move you people make.
An old German saying is the Jews will give nothing for what you did have
before. The Jews supporting poor black people means there will be absolutely
no return of some of the money this alone speaks for itself.
-- Kurt Knoll.
The Chief Instigator
>In article <szk64ry...@eris.io.com>,
> The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>> R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>> >On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:41 -0000, <11kvkfh...@corp.supernews.com>
>> >kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>> >Speaking of coward attorneys!
>> Yeah, what happened to Daylin Leach, anyway?
>Well, he had to remove his online blog because it contained racist and
>sexist "jokes," and he's been the laughing stock of PA politics.
He can always credit Fatbury for inspiring him to such "heights".