I don't mean pranks, and I don't mean practical jokes.
I mean serious-as-a-heart-attack revenge.
I've searched the web high and low and am pretty disappointed with the
results.
I am not interested in phone phreaking tactics and other juvenile pranks,
which comprises about 50% of what one finds on this subject with any kind
of a competent search engine.
I am not interested in dumping acid on the mark's car, or spelling out
something obscene on his lawn with fertilizer, or in mail bombing them.
I am not interested in revenge tactics which require bugging their phone,
breaking into their house, or anything else which would otherwise require
some highly developed skill which I don't currently have, or which would
involve flagrant and highly risky lawbreaking (like breaking into
someone's house, climbing into their backyard or on their roof).
I am not interested in anything that can be traced back to me. Think
about it for a moment. If someone trashed your car or your lawn, you'd
have a pretty good idea who did it, wouldn't you? And wouldn't you pay
them back tenfold? I sure would.
I am not interested in doing any of the above-mentioned deeds. They are
either impractical, ineffective, far too obvious and/or traceable.
I am not interested in a tit-for-tat war of destructiveness, nor am I
interested in anything which would motivate my mark to involve the police
in my life. We all know the pigs are pretty good at getting innocent
people nailed as it is... I would prefer not to unduly risk entanglements
with them.
What I am searching for are hardcore, realistic revenge tactics which
would do serious damage to their life, limb, property and emotional well-
being, while not unduly arousing suspicion on the part of the mark.
As an example, I have been saving empty 1-gallon milk jugs for some time.
I am, right now, preparing several gallons of very highly saline solution
(read: salt water. VERY salty water). I am going to pour the saline
solution into the milk jugs, and add to these, a liberal dose of Roundup.
Then I am going to pay a visit to my mark's residence in the dead of
night.
He has a number of very large, very tall palm trees at the edge of the
property. I am going to do some 'watering' for my mark. It's my guess
that the combination of a heavy dose of very salty water, plus the
roundup, will kill any tree. But I don't want to kill ALL the trees, that
might arouse suspicion. I'll just water ONE of the palms. If one of my
trees died, I would have to be one paranoid muthafucka to think someone
had a hand in it. OTOH, if all of my palm trees suddenly died, I might be
more motivated to find out what happened.
And, I hear that palm trees are very expensive to remove! Plus I would
enjoy taking a picture of the mark's house a few months hence... formerly
symmetrically framed by some palm trees, but now asymmetrically framed by
a few palms and one butt-ugly stump. That should not help their property
values.
I also had the idea of creating a roach or termite infestation at his
residence.
My point is, it would take a truly, intensely paranoid mind to even
suspect that any of these activities had anything to do with any kind of
human intervention.
And those are the kind of ideas for revenge tactics, which I am seeking.
So... I would appreciate any advice on the following:
1) specifically, how to create an effective roach and/or termite
infestation at a mark's residence.
2) Also, is it possible to transmit a really serious disease like
hepatitis C, herpes or something else unpleasant and long-lasting, by
applying something invisible and undetectable to a car door handle? I
suppose I could transmit hep C by smearing feces on the target surface,
but a) gee I think that is kind of obvious, and b) someone who just got
shit on their hands is prolly gonna wash it off right away.
3) direction to any other resources for effective, realistic, I-ain't-
fuckin'-around revenge tactics would be appreciated.
And in case you care, yes the mark really did do something to me which is
worthy of seeking to do long-lasting, untraceable damage to them and
their property.
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Weed-be-gone or Brush-be-Gone (Ortho) would likely be much more
effective. Round-up works principally through foliar absorbtion
and has little residual effect.
But I don't want to kill ALL the trees, that
> >:might arouse suspicion. I'll just water ONE of the palms. If
one of my
> >:trees died, I would have to be one paranoid muthafucka to
think someone
> >:had a hand in it. OTOH, if all of my palm trees suddenly died,
I might be
> >:more motivated to find out what happened.
> >:
> >:And, I hear that palm trees are very expensive to remove!
Plus I would
> >:enjoy taking a picture of the mark's house a few months
hence... formerly
> >:symmetrically framed by some palm trees, but now
asymmetrically framed by
> >:a few palms and one butt-ugly stump. That should not help
their property
> >:values.
> >:
> >:I also had the idea of creating a roach or termite infestation
at his
> >:residence.
>
> If you've ever watched the movie "Pacific Heights" with Michael
Keaton
> and Meg Ryan - you will understand exactly how devastating this
can be.
>
> >:
> >:My point is, it would take a truly, intensely paranoid mind to
even
> >:suspect that any of these activities had anything to do with
any kind of
> >:human intervention.
> >:
> >:And those are the kind of ideas for revenge tactics, which I
am seeking.
> >:
> >:So... I would appreciate any advice on the following:
> >:
> >:1) specifically, how to create an effective roach and/or
termite
> >:infestation at a mark's residence.
>
> Read a book about roaches. Once in they are damned near
impossible to
> remove. If he has a house, chances are he already has some
protection
> against termites, if not a good exterminator can get rid of them
without
> a great deal of difficulty/damage/expense. What do you know
about this
> guys living environment? Clean family/house? Or is it a place
that
> roaches would really, really like to make their home?
>
> One caution about this is that unless you are extremely careful,
they
> will end up in your home. You mentioned living next door -
that's way
> too close for me to feel comfortable.
>
> >:2) Also, is it possible to transmit a really serious disease
like
> >:hepatitis C, herpes or something else unpleasant and
long-lasting, by
> >:applying something invisible and undetectable to a car door
handle? I
> >:suppose I could transmit hep C by smearing feces on the target
surface,
> >:but a) gee I think that is kind of obvious, and b) someone who
just got
> >:shit on their hands is prolly gonna wash it off right away.
>
> I thought you said you didn't want to risk the "pigs?" Yes,
there are
> ways to give people horrible diseases but if for any reason you
get
> busted it will be very serious. Also, in this group we do not
recommend
> any method of causing serious bodily harm to another person - if
you
> choose to pursue that avenue then you are on your own. Nobody
here wants
> to be an accessory to an aggravated assault or a murder. While
we might
> suggest things far more harmful than pranks or shens - we won't
touch
> this kind of stuff. Hire a hit man.
>
> >:3) direction to any other resources for effective, realistic,
I-ain't-
> >:fuckin'-around revenge tactics would be appreciated.
> >:
> >:And in case you care, yes the mark really did do something to
me which is
> >:worthy of seeking to do long-lasting, untraceable damage to
them and
> >:their property.
>
> What you didn't tell us was why you want such serious revenge,
and what
> you know about your target. If you want creative and
imaginative ideas,
> we have to have something to work with other than the fact that
you are
> big-time pissed off.
>
> Also - how long ago did this happen? The longer, the better -
the best
> revenge is about five years after the offense. The closer to
the
> offense, the more readily your name will pop up as a possible
cause.
>
> --
> WOOF!
> Key for validation of signature (if used) at
> http://www.ivortech.com/clubs/loki314
Have them move to Redwood City, California, have said mark marry
the thing that sired you, you moron, while forcing them to admit
that indeed you are their offspring... all the while holding them
at bay with a 'saline bomb.'
Of course, I already know that you are troll.
...a very STUPID one.
Y'know, a mature tree is hard to kill.
Got a chainsaw?
It'd help to know the size and variety of the tree.
In all likelihood, assuming you're not in a tropical or
sub-tropical area, you're best bet is to act during the growing
season. In fall and winter anything applied to the soil wouldn't
be absorbed by the roots, and the roots are really the key. Brush-
be-Gone is a good candidate, anything containing 2,4, D is serious
stuff. If you know a farmer or a landscaper with a pesticide
license they could probably hook you up with something stronger.
I've seen fairly large trees seriously damaged by the broadleaf
weedkillers used on lawns. Bear in mind that in early spring, when
the leaf buds are just starting to open up, the roots are drawing
moisture from the ground like crazy. That is the time to act. The
feeder roots on most trees are at a distance from the trunk,
usually just at the dripline (directly under the tips of the
longest limbs). Anything placed on the soil there would be
infinitely more effective than placing it near the trunk.
This is all off the top of my head, if you can let me know the
size and variety of the tree, and the general climate where you
are, I'm sure we could be more particular.
Of course I don't advocate the wanton destruction of any valuable
trees, especially ones that have taken decades to mature, although
I do recognize that often the wrong trees are planted in the wrong
locations and they do require corrective measures.
Phaet
KoT/CoB 948
"And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees:
therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is
hewn down, and cast into the fire." (MATTHEW 3:10)
The solution to your problem is quite simple. I did this to my neighbors
tree that was about 25 ft tall with a trunk that was about a foot in
diameter. This was a mahogany tree that was dropping seed pods on my car.
I bought four gallons of muriatic acid from the local Home Depot. Each
evening after my neighbor went to sleep, I would pour a quick half a gallon
of acid around his tree real close to the trunk. Be careful. The acid
reacting with the dirt and rock will cause a smoke. Don't breath the smoke
or get it in your eyes as it will make you quite uncomfortable. Try to
remain upwind.
About four days went by before the leaves started falling. By the end of a
week there wasn't a leaf left on the tree. My neighbor assumed it died and
cut it down.
Hey this sounds like something that's against the law, forget it! I ain't
doin
nuth'n to tarnish my pedigree. p. wong
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Many locales have "Adopt-a-Highway" programs in place for the
purpose of general right-of-way clean-up. If the locale in
question has such a thing, it might be wise for the business or an
organization he is affiliated with to sign up for that little
stretch of road. Once given the legitimacy to be there, the ideal
thing to do would be to "limb up" the offending tree, removing the
lower limbs up to 10-12' above the ground. 1/3 of the lower limbs
can be taken off of any tree with no real damage to the tree.
Many "Adopt-a-highway" programs also post the names of the
participating groups, which ain't a bad thing for a business. As
far as keeping up with the trash clean-up, some local
gutter-snipes should be able to do it at a nominal cost.
--
Phaet KoB/CoT 948
"Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey"
>
> >If, OTOH, we're talking an overgrown fruitless mulberry among
other such
> >blocking a number of struggling, later-generation tenants in an
already
> >obsolescing strip, it prolly makes little difference, and the
muriatic
> >acid may be the way to go.
>
> Overgrown fruitless in mature (not obsolescent) business
> area --I like the tree, it's just bad for business. It
> blocks view of expensive neon signage and curve appeal.
>
> These are idle thoughts, anyway, I'm not into killing trees.
>On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:35:05 GMT a carbon-based biotic at
>news:alt.revenge using the nom de net m...@here.com,
>irrevocably obscured the issue with the following
>clarification:
>
>>For what it is worth RoundUp will not do anything to the tree in
>>question. RoundUp is to be absorbed through the leaves to be
>>effective. Now if you could find some Spike pellets and place a
>>handful around the tree that would be effective. Or maybe Tordon K
>>( I believe the spelling to be correct ). The Spike will take some
>>time to become active but it will kill the tree and all the vegetation
>>around it. It will also leach in the ground to kill a larger area.
>>This done during late summer would have the tree dead in the spring.
>>BTW I am a farmer who deals with chemicals.
>
>Is 'Spike' the name of the product? (I only ask because we
>used to have a regular named 'Spike' with very large
>breasts).
I mean serious-as-a-heart-attack revenge.
>>
Brent Jansen shows the TRUE spirit of the pizza boys::
"and you actually TRUST us "lowly pizzaboys" to get you your food in an
edible manner? heh heh, what a gullible non-tipping customer!!"
©alt.pizza.delivery.drivers
<< Regards,
Mömus >>
Dearus Momus :
KISS MY ASS.
*THWACK* for posting through Cotse, *THWACK* for leaving the original
bandwidth-wasting post in, and *THWACK* for you using THWAP.
>1) specifically, how to create an effective roach and/or termite
>infestation at a mark's residence.
You can introduce any type of bug or egg casings into
the Marks's home but this is where you have to know
your mark's habits. For example, if s/he runs a very clean
household and is very proactive about pest control, dumping
bugs into house would only cause a minor blip.
Since you mention palms tree, I assume your mark lives
in southern climes and either HAS every bug in the south
or runs a pro-active pest control program.
>2) Also, is it possible to transmit a really serious disease like
>hepatitis C or herpes blah/blah via door handle
No Hep C is usually transmitted via bodily fluids
herpes? Simplex- cold sores/fever blister goo on handle...
possibly if the mark never washes his/her hands but
Herpes Complex is a STD.
>And in case you care, yes the mark really did do something to me which is
>worthy of seeking to do long-lasting, untraceable damage to them and
>their property.
I'm not saying I doubt this; actually I don't care enough to question
you or your motives but you should probably consider waiting
some years before acting: your posts suggest to me that
you do not yet have the maturity to really reach out and touch someone
with an appropriate and balanced action that would be untraceable.
Bear
Check out the movie Pacific Heights to see how Michael Keaton handled
this one.
On a kind of related note: Anyone else remember that story from a
while ago about the woman who bought a cactus in Mexico, I think, and
brought it back home with her? Seems one day she heard some strange
humming noises, went to investigate, and the house was full of
tarantulas. I guess they lay their eggs in these cactii, and when it's
time to hatch the thing just kind of blows up and the little babies go
flying everywhere. From what I heard, they actually had to burn her
house down to keep them under control so they wouldn't infest the rest
of the neighborhood. 'Course, that could also just be another urban
legend. Might want to do a little research first. But, if so, it would
be easy enough to hide one of these things.
Second, I'd be looking for a weakness. Is he married? Got a roaving
eye? Like the little kids? Where does he work? Does his job require
a security clearance? Is he part of a certain "crowd"? Like to drink
or do drugs? Check into his background a bit, and you never know what
you might find. Arrest records can tell a whole lot, sometimes. And
most records are public, after all.
Might also consider having a "friend" do your diry work. Just make
sure that, whenever the deed is done, you're somewhere with LOTS of
witnesses around. Don't be too obvious, but make sure others KNOW
you're there at a specific time. "Hey, Mr. Bartender, what time is
it? Could you let me know when it's 10:30, 'cause I have somewhere I
have to be." And, of course, you just happened to have set up a date
for that night, at that time, which verifies the bartender's testimony
that you were there. If you happen to wear a watch, just pretend it's
stopped, then be sure to get a new battery to replace it. Again, helps
to keep the story-line flowing...
Hehehehehehe. I just love this stuff. Hope this helps. - ncXVI